Why does the MC always have to be so lacking in personality and charm. Its not like the mangaka can't write interesting male characters. I just refuse to believe any girl would be interested in such a boring guy with literally no redeeming qualities. No seriously, can't he have something? Like gap moe where in private with his gf he's more lively. Hobbies, interest, like a single fucking strong opinion he's not willing to budge on. How can you fall in love with a person who can't even tell you if they liked or disliked a movie. Holy hell. Its just so funny because all the other male characters are great whereas MC is just a giant walking emotional dildo for the suzuki.
>>287283740Define "personality and charm".
>>287283755Personality - The totality of qualities and traits, as of character or behavior, that are peculiar to a specific person. Charm - A quality that pleases or attracts; a delightful characteristicI'm not asking for much here bro, I just want Tani to crack a single joke or have a single opinion that isn't just the opinion of his gf.
>>287283740The male lead is a gigantic nobody because the (potential) fans are gigantic nobodies. That's why their shit's mid in Japan.The anime that gets popular and made for overseas markets? The male leads there have personality and charm; infact, more than the female leads who share the franchise with them.
All that matters is that he's not a cringe loser faggot like Harima Kenji
>>287283755Good husbando.
>>287283755Luffy
>>287283826Do you know that being stoic is a personality trait? And that it's more common among men? And that women often times like a degree of stoicism in men?
>>287283740He is not the MC though
>Hobbies, interest, like a single fucking strong opinion he's not willing to budge onI mean, OP, normally in anime this tends to be "MC-kun is a moralfag guy who never does nothing illegal or at least he has a strong fear to end in jail for break the rules in very little things". But with Tani this doesn´t apply because Suzuki is a very innocent good girl to her own sake as FMC, she is literally Kaoruko but in gal
>>287284942thats a lie reddit made up
>>287285119Is Reddit in the room with us at this moment?
>>287283740he's not the MC and the fact you don't understand even this simple fact says a lot about your reading comprehension
>>287284942He's not stoic and women don't find stoicism attractive. This is something only men think
>>287284942most of the "self insert" mcs /a/ loathes are written by female authors. it is not surprising that males find it difficult to relate to the tastes and preferences of women compared to characters written by men. but it is hilarious when they try to frame their seethe towards un-self insertable characters as being virtuously above self insertion every time. so much irony in projection
>>287285361As if you'd know what women think.
Because the audience are either small boys or adult virgins, both who can't relate to anything but a girl falling in love with a passive virgin who barely can express himself.
Woman actually do like James Bond/ Space Cobra type of men so it’s funny you hardly see those types by male authors any more. Different era I guess, I think Ikuhara brought up in the past that the modern male are closer to the princesses you see in classic fiction than the “brave warrior”.
>>287285964Link to where Ikuhara said that.
>>287283755Okabe Rintarou
>>287285972It was Kotani but Ikuhara did add a remark that men pretty much do what women do now to get a partner.https://ohtori.nu/creators/actualsexuality/index.html
>>287286057He's describing looksmaxxing 20 years before the term even came about.
It's a weird industry meta in Japan to reach as much of an audience as possible. Older MCs used to have a lot more personality but I guess that scared of the super wusses
>>287283740The protagonist of certain works follow an archetype to be broadly relatable to the (male) audience, and the easiest way to do that results in him being passive and bland with no standout qualities. The sad part is it doesn't have to be this way. Hachiken shows that this archetype can be full of personality, headstrong, and gutsy, but you need a good writer who has a vision beyond self-insertion.
>>287283740I don't get that either. OnK, Kaguya, Toradora and Clannad have proven that you don't have to make your MC a spinless wimp or a blank slate in order to make your series relatable to the audience.
>>287286261The Toradora MC was a spineless wimp and a doormat.
>>287286282Yet he's still a chad compared to your average Gojo.
>>287286293Your average Gojo is this guy, not the Bisque Doll faggot.
>>287286319I think my monitor is broken, the gif keeps stuttering
>>287286319only one of them died a virgin
>>287286096It's nothing newTeddy boy was describing "practicing your mating dance" in similar terms
>>287283740Oh please, this whole male MC lacks personality and charm excuse has always been a blanket to hide critics' real issue with such leads. Is that they're not bombastic or loud enough for them, and also not horny enough because that's apparently the zenith of having a personality according to them (They don't self-insert btw).Yuu is the perfect example of this. Full of personality, charm and is interesting but you'll never see any of these people like him because he's not "manly" enough for them.
>>287283740Tani is a chill normal guy (basically male version of kuudere) who slowly turns into a chad thanks to Suzuki, I am not sure why people hate him.The only characters I don't like all that much are Yamada and especially Nishi who literally has no personality
>watch shitty romcom shows>gee, why are these shows always so shitty?
I want more "shitty" 10/10 romcom adaptations with girls like AzumaIt sucks that her only replacement this season is some tomboy-looking girl called Azumi
>>287287815>girls like Azumayou mean used goods?
>>287286096That has been a thing for decades dude.
>>287286282Both main characters were completely unlikable in that. I guess, in the end, they deserve each other.
>>287283740Because that's the target audience they imagine the average manga reader to be.
>>287287435Nishi is very bland, pretty much the gender swap of your typical rom com MC. Always relying on the other person to be proactive and chasing her, worried of him being a very social person while she is not, always a stuttering mess and couldn't even give a proper answer when talked to until way later. But of course according to OP she's a good character, probably because she's a girl and not a "spineless male" like Tani.
OP here.Forgot to say I love Kanokari.Not sure if that matters.
Self-incerting subhuman zoomoids ruined male characters.
Which one is the girl with short, black hair?
>>287289643Best girl Sato
>>287283740But he isn't the MC? Suzuki is
>>287283740Because it's meant to appeal to autistic virgin loser faggots like you who won't watch anything starring a competing motivated masculine male, because you are a such a pathetic pile of vomit you feel vicariously insecure you have to self-insert as protagonists and you can't relate to anything but a bucket of slop.You are utter fetid human trash and the sooner you expire and your defective genes remove the pool the better for the rest of us.
>>287283863but polar opposite got popular overseas
