>>287288455
>You guys probably have more creativity than the average LN author
Where do you think you are?

just do cast away isekai

>>287288455
When will you learn that cool, funky original premises alone don't make a good LN? The problem with bottom of the barrel isekai authors is not that they lack originality, it's that they have no business being writers.

>>287288455
Just make Total Drama, but anime. It's surprising that there's still no mainstream game show anime isekai-style despite nipland being obsessed with those shows. Japanese Survivor also got axed super early for whatever reason. But yeah, just make a 2-cour anime of survivor but isekai and with multiple characters competing and I'm sure it'll sell. I'm not sure how well it'll translate to though with its confessionals and stuff

>>287288455
I had a good idea the other day but I forgot it.
I guess isekai is destined to be slop.

>>287288455
A young japanese twink gets hit by a rampaging bull who escaped from a farm. He is reborn into a dark fantasy world as the ninth son of the Demon Lord who successfully won and subdued all the other realms and managed to withstand the wrath of the Gods. Our MC is the weakest of the Demon Lord´s children; however, he has one advantage: he was a 2chan user and read all the popular and less popular fantasy from japan and world, as well as all the philosophical works. Now he has to use this knowledge to rise through the ranks of his siblings and become a the heir, and maybe overthrow his father.

>>287288694
>I guess isekai is destined to be slop.
Pretty much
Just look at Gigguk. Bro had the chance to come up with a good idea for an anime and he made another isekai slop

youjo senki but without the magic and in warring states China
bring them
>shipbuilding, gunpowder, firelancer, rocket cart, star fort base design, stirrups

the last 2 would be enough to decimate

>>287288455
Mushoku Tensei already exists and is better than any other fantasy anime, isekai or not.

>>287288455
Peasant from feudal japan walks across the road and gets trampled to death by a horse.
Wakes up in modern day Tokyo.
No superpowers, no antagonist of any kind. Just a regular guy trying to survive Japanese bureaucracy hell, can't get anything done because there's literally zero documentation on him and there's no paper trail proving he even exists.

>>287288794
Star Forts would be useless in the mountainous and hilly terrain of China. They only worked on the plains, which is why they were predominantly used in western europe.

>>287288810
they would be great in areas of the yellow river, but could otherwise supplement their other forts

>>287288693
>GATE but instead of army faggotry, a TV station is the first to send people there
Could work, I guess.

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>>287288455
Ok, so here's my take.
There's a full-grown feller in his 30s without wife or kids in our world but he's not human, rather psychopath of small inteligence, if you will, that wants to kill others in the most funny way possible, for example: while they do some stupid shit. This deranged mind of him eventually ends with his demise by the pure mistake on his side. Then he's reincarnated in broad medieval world (think Byzantine Empire, Vikings Rus, Mongol Empire, Mesoamerica etc. so we can explore all the different settings of this universe) where he comes into contact with various people and sometimes he takes them off in a funny and/or gruesome way and sometimes he is killed and later reincarnated as some sort of a curse.
But don't think of him as a sadist. He thinks it's his job to kill,it's some sort of a commandment for him and while he's at it he decides to have some fun.

But here's the kicker, protagonist is not really that important it's just a device to observe stories of various people across that universe. Each life - one story; may be be longer or shorter. Each character eventually dies just like the protagonist but he's constantly reincarnating as a warrior, merchant, imam, king or simple animal.

>>287288906
Honestly sounds like garbage.

What if the MC unintentionally caused a conquistador sort of scenario where he passively causes the death of over 90 percent of the world's population because the other world just can't handle his weird germs from another dimension?

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>>287288455
MC-kun reincarnates into a brutal grimdark world with no special powers and barely survives each day by the skin of his teeth

>>287288455
MC gets isekai'd to some world.
Gets treated horribly by everyone, framed for things that he didn't do etc.
Discovers his cheat skill an becomes OP.
Exposes everyone for the frauds they are.
Retires with a harem of immortal big tiddy milfs.
Wrap up the story in 24 episodes.
FIN

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What about one where the protagonist decides to wipe out slavery in the other world?

>>287288455
Okay so here's the plan: we're doing Yugioh but with people physically beating the shit out of each other in the middle of games and an absurdly massive cosmology and cards are connected to different planes of reality as well as the mechanical elements of the game
The main character wants to go home, but the card that he needs to access Earth is in the possession of the main antagonist
MC is constantly power crept by beings from other worlds and for a solid season's worth of story he isn't even strong enough to use cards in the full game yet and needs to do magic with dice instead
There's a whole arc about learning a completely different magic style than he's used to and having to kill a dragon to get a card that his deck needs to make that type of magic viable for him because the demon kind is not only busted as hell, the MCs deck is is completely matchup checked by him

>>287288799
Have you read any non-anime fantasy?

>>287289536
irl gaming autism doesn't translate well to fiction.

>>287289588
That's why we nake it more about game theory and characters solving puzzles/mysteries than about game mechanics
Ans also have the power system be designed specifically so just casting your buffs and beating the shit out of your opponent is a perfectly viable and intelligent strategy for a large number of fights

>>287288455
I just want isekai Golden Boy and have it be chaptered like Kino no Tabi. Get horny MC into one place and meet new girls, then bid them farewell and move to next new place.
Most isekai have MC "farm girl trophies" and by volume 10 he has like 6-10 girls who become blander and blander because they no longer receive character development and they cannot be killed off or ignored because the fanbase would riot.

>>287289536
that's just cardcaptors with PVP

>>287288455
I would make the isekai world be filled with people from the past who got stuck there and formed their own society without even realizing it. The magic system could be more trivial but exotic, so I can dump some engineering autism and if I need an excuse I can just use magic to justify it

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>>287288455
Done

>>287288455
Isekai but you go to anime world and play the role of a random character. You gain the knowledge and some advantage but have to complete a certain objective in a set amount of time (destroy the world if you play as demon lord, win someone's heart in romance anime, survive in a post-apocalyse world, etc.). After each world completed you get to keep "something" of that world, be it weapon or even person if that person accepts

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>>287288662
See here's what gets me. The Japanese HAVE to know how derivative this all is right? They have to. I refuse to believe they're not thinking conscious people with the ability to notice patterns. So why? How are they so intentionally content with such low effort drivel? I realize no story is ever going to be COMPLETELY original but there's a world of difference between stepping into well trodden territory and this paint by numbers crap. It wasn't even just isekai either. We all remember that battle harem infestation we had a while back. How does this keep happening?! Do they actually like this kind of thing or is it just the only thing being made so of course it would seem popular?! Where's the roof on this shit!?

I love these threads because of how terrible every single idea is kek

>>287290417
Because isekai is mostly written by people who do all their reading and writing on amateur novelist websites where imitation is the sincerest form of hiding from your incompetence

>>287290441
They are at least not cookie cutter isekai though
Some of them

>>287290495
As if this isn't true about most modern fictional literature.

>>287290578
I don't deny that

>>287290417
When a certain type of story is popular, it doesn't matter how derivative it is, people will still consume it.
For a non-japanese example consider capeslop.

>>287288455
sao isn't isekai you dumb retarded redditor. do your research before making a bait thread like this. and yes, sao mogs your top 3 le toodeep4u anime

>>287290852
Are you retarded? SAO is isekai by definition. Videogame settings have always been considered isekai.

>>287290794
>For a non-japanese example consider capeslop.

I do but even within capeshit there's at least very significant distinctions. Batman is a very different character than Superman. Spider-man is very different from Moon Knight.

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>>287290417
>pic related
Blade Dancer bros, they stole our premise.

>>287290898
they made 3 different spidermans
3 different supermans
4 different batmans

>>287290881
>it's isekai because my fav tranime eceleb said so
it's not you dumb retarded redditor. your fav tranime eceleb don't make rules, japanese do

>>287288455
>main character becomes a fantasy hero
>bangs hot woman
>slays the dark lord
>stays

There

>>287291010
>>287290898
Not to mention young superman (Smallville)
young batman (Gotham)

>>287291021
Spouting buzzwords doesn't obfuscate your newfag status at all. I have no clue what Japs have to say on the matter and it's completely fucking irrelevant. Video game settings are a technicality that no one has EVER cared about in any discussion. And you're talking about one of the key LN's that started the isekai craze.

>>287291031
>doesn't bang the dark lord milf
dropped

>>287291074
every isekai owe it to dragon quest you dumb retarded redditor. you're saying random shit that you learnt from your fav tranime eceleb. wanna hear more? there was one tranime eceleb who started the sao hate train and normies like you fell for it

>>287291163
>every isekai owe it to dragon quest you dumb retarded retarded
Modern isekai is a thing that started in 2012 and was mostly comprised of Zero no Tsukaima fanfic writers. Your lack of knowledge on the topic is very obvious.

>>287291163
Dragon quest is why japs are incapable of writing real fantasy and default to video game power levels and adventure guilds right

>>287288455
I've always thought the idea of having a group of people isekai'd into a world and trying to get back home would be cool, only for the fact that you could have one of them become attached to the fantasy world they got transported to because he hated his life back in the normal world and prevents everyone else from going back home because he doesn't want to leave, thus making him a villain of some kind. You can take the idea pretty far I think, making the guy an antihero eventually, but I think it would be fun. Obviously this idea alone doesn't float a whole series and you'd want to have more drama thrown in there. I feel like a lot of anime is afraid to toss in a lot of character drama, like the characters are the writer's children and they are helicopter parents who don't want anything bad to happen to them. Have some characters date and break up in a bad way, doesn't matter if there is an overarching point to it, it's interesting

>>287288455
A chivalric warrior from the Kamakura period is transported to the 21st century and forced to adapt to Japanese work culture, slowly rising up the ranks to become CEO of his company and eventual dictator of Japan.

>>287291356
I liked Paripi Kongming, I wouldn't mind more stuff like that.

>>287291010
>>287291010
And all those Supermans and Spider-mans all exist all the Flashes, All the Guardians of the Galaxies, all the Hellboys. They are not all literally the same thing the way isekai is.

>>287291253
That's literally just 12 Kingdoms.

>>287291718
What? anon...you might want to rethink what you just posted.

>>287291864
>A character bitten by a radioactive spider
>A character dedicated to fighting crime after witnessing the death of his parents
>The last son of a dying alien world
>Being doused with chemicals and a lighting blast grants super speed
>A sickly young artist undergoes a scientific experiment to become a super soldier in WW2
vs
>I was hit by a truck and wound up in a walled city with an adventures guild

>>287291933
Yeah except they repeated each of those story lines multiple times.

>>287292060
There's a difference between milking a brand and what basically amounts to encouraging plagiarism. I'm not gonna pretend like I'm not sick of seeing Uncle Ben get shot but there's still at least differences in franchises.

>>287292114
So as long as I slap the same name on it, it's fine?

>>287292114
I agree that you can't call it plagiarism if you own the rights to the story, but that's more of a legal argument than an artistic one.
Would stricter enforcement of copyright encourage more creativity, well we can just look at the western media industry and see that's not really the case.

>>287288455
>make a drama about some guy getting trucked and getting reincarnated some 2200 years ago or so in Europe. characterization is basically anything goes. the knot being tied would be his homeland getting conquered by Romans and him and his someone (friend, girlfriend, parents or anyone really, just build them up and their relationship before tying the knot) getting enslaved. here you can decide which path does most of the story goes, if you want more shonen, make him gladiator but include those elements in past phase as well. you can make him house slave being useful to master by learning to read and his past knowledge and things like that. I would advise against his girlfriend being the one enslaved because it will give you a chance of building up a relationship in this phase which will be much longer, leave that role to parents and childhood bro or someone he wants to find. end the part by him getting freedom one way or another. the next part will be about developing the relationship and explore the dilemma of MC being bound down now and not getting to go through whole empire looking for them. you can make the situation happen exactly when there's a turmoil in empire to spice things up further and write how MC gets around it.
i made really broad and abstract statements but this could absolutely work as much better framework than slop isekai. I do get it that it needs a chad MC for elevens to consider reading so go on and take gladiator path. I think it's cheap but it does work.

bitchy goddess decides protag's too much of an otaku loser to be the glorious hero of her world so she reincarnates him as a worthless wolfboy demihuman slave instead, he suffer immensely and end up going full spartacus isekai

>>287288455
>You guys probably have more creativity than the average LN author
>/a/
lol, lmao.

Pretty much a Mad Libs genre.
>type of person
>setting
>advantage
>surprising turn of fate
>I'm a ___ That Got Transported to ___ With My ___ But Somehow I ___!

>>287288455
At this point I would be willing to accept the concept played straight with no gimmicks or initial twists

Just: guy gets teleported to fantasy world and becomes a hero of legend that saves the world

Nice and clean. Very tired of the “errrrm being a hero is actually bad and everyone sucks”

>>287291747
Never seen it

>>287292671
>type of person
hikikomori 4chan poster
>setting
14th century Europe (no magic, no demihumans)
>advantage
Whatever modern knowledge they picked up
>surprising turn of fate
They have to get a normal job if they want to survive.
>I'm a 4chan poster That Got Transported to 14th century Europe With My lack of a practical skill set But Somehow I didn't immediately die!

>>287288455
just do a romeo and juliet a la demon lord and hero

>>287292928
And what exactly is the appeal of that?

>>287288455
MC-kun is a plamo otaku who gets isekai'd with his collection of mostly unbuilt models.
Appears in the middle of a forest and runs across a group of fairies.
The fairies are [folklore accurate] retards who are actually rather powerful but their abilities are tied to their own idiosyncrasies, they only can be powerful if they "think" they're powerful.
Curious about what those fancy "clothes" that MC-kun brought with him are, they ask about them and he tells them the original stories of the model kits.
The fairies believe that by putting on the kits they will become more able to defend themselves, and due to fairy magic they gain abilities of the kits.
MC-kun has to work with the fairies to reclaim their sacred grove so they can have enough magical power to send him home but also he has a finite supply of model kits that dwindle over time limiting the support that the fairies can give.
The fairies can also sense lies so the MC has to tell them the "canon stories" of the model kits rather than making up abilities for them, though he would rather them get the pure versions of the stories he loves.

>>287290417
Fun things are fun

>>287288455
>heh I would be the genius idea guy unlike those other idea guys
No you're not bro

>>287288693
There is a post-isekai adventure death game manga
>Isekai Kaeri no Moto Yuusha desuga
Where the Isekai protagonist returns to the real world and his class keeps being kidnapped by rich people to be put in Saw like live stream shows for rich people.

>>287293556
What's the point of it having an isekai element if it's a death game series in the real world?

>>287293694
The powers they got from being isekaid

Fantasy noble dies and is reincarnated as a real world politican

>>287288455
The problem isn't the tropes or creativity, it's that they suck at writing. There are bunch of gimmick series that have creative powers and whatever but they still suck because the author sucks. On the other hand, just look at Mushoku Tensei, shit is as tropey as it gets, but the author bothered to at least spend some time to flesh out the characters and locations and make them relevant to the plot, while having a coherent ending, and it's reiled as the greatest thing ever by MTfags.

>>287294157
that's not even the problem. Authors use all their creativity at start to essentially clickbait the reader. that's superior way of making money.

>>287294157
MT is overrated as fuck. The only reason anyone likes it is because the mc actually has sex with the girls for once.

>>287294444
It's more that they come up with a good premise and think it over, before committing to publishing something.
Once they're faced with deadlines it's essentially gameover, since there's no way they can put as much time into the story as they did at the beginning.

The story is based on my fetish
Done

>>287294537
hold on. there are ones where MC has sex with guys instead?

The thing with Sword Art Online is that it’s not even really Isekai. And there’s a plot. A bad plot, but a plot. Which is more than can be said for the endless slop getting churned out now, where the runtime is just the mc whining about being reincarnated and wanting to be a boring farmer or whatever. Compare to Kirito, who actually liked being a superhero mostly

>>287294672
>Entire second half of s1 dedicated to NTR plot.
This is where I lost interest in SAO.

>>287292916
It's good. You should watch it.

>>287288455
My idea of a good Isekai would be “re:zero done right” essentially.
>MC is a 20 something yo construction worker. He is a quiet and cultivated man who has always enjoyed reading, poetry, classic literature, and history.
>He found himself as a construction worker simply because he had to make ends meet and his interests weren’t suited for a career.
>He would often think about the books he’s read, imagining a more enlightened and interesting life which is what would get him through each grueling day.
>He dies in a construction accident and gets isekai’d.
>wakes up in dark souls/Bloodborne esque world that’s not a video game.
>large Medieval city with massive cathedrals, bridges, towers, etc- an expansive backdrop to be captured with proper cinematography.
>MC has a return by death ability.
>bunch of incredibly powerful humanoids and creatures.
>MC has to navigate the world essentially through trial and error (dying, reviving, and trying again)
>Uses his skills and fitness acquired from his construction job to eventually overcome each obstacle.
>his initial motive is to get home but he begins to find the world quite beautiful and interesting when it’s not threatening to kill him, and learns that it has an extremely deep history and lore that shames the monotony of the world he came from.
>as his journey progresses, he meets people that aren’t out to kill him, learns about the world, and makes is his primary life goal to discover the history and hidden truths of the strange new world.
Obviously there would need to be something more to make it a fun watch but that’s the outline.

I say go full Galaxy Quest. A group of online role players get mistaking by a magical summoning ritual to defend the land from a great evil. They are given power and abilities but will it help when they're goddamn idiots and cowards.

>>287294940
I was gonna post something really mean, but I'll just say that this isn't very good.

Reverse isekai where the demon king and humanity's top mage get sucked through a portal to modern Japan mid-battle. The demon king sets about to rule the world (or at least Japan) and the mage is trying to defeat him. Also they're both able to teach their magic to humans.

>>287294537
I feel like you haven't looked at much post 2018 Isekai. Having sex is pretty common, especially for series where the protagonist is 30+ before being isekaid.

>>287294940
This could easily be good depending on the writer ignore that faggot

>>287294940
>re:zero done right
I'm not a huge fan of re:zero myself, but I'm still not sure what you mean by that. Re:zero has a strong overarching plot, and this clearly does not. This sounds like it's trying to appeal to some kind of vibe and atmosphere type of audience while lacking a clear hook.

>>287295193
any vague premise can be good depending on the writer.

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>>287288455
Stacy/Nechronica the nippon RPG but an animes.

It starts out looking like the plot of SCHOOL LIVE,
>le MAL reference https://myanimelist.net/manga/55163/Gakkougurashi
but little by little, the team of loli MCs start looking more and more like decaying corpses and talking funny.
Eventually one of them realises they are dead all along and have been locked up in school by a mysterious "doctor", and decides to look for all the other Stacies locked up in school and somehow find a way out.
One night, the song "Get me away from here I'm dying" by Belle & Sebastian starts playing and all the herd of loli stacies go berserk and eat each other. Almost all of them. The OG team stays mostly sane and try to contain the cannibalism but fail and ran away. Somehow the front door was finally unlocked and they stepped out only to find Anthony Fauci and a team of giant black mice waiting for them!!!! What do?

TO BE CON'T....

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>>287288455
Why don't isekai MCs ever talk about the music they used to listen to? Like actual bands and youtube chiptune videos and such?
I've always wanted a music-focused isekai where the world is already music obsessed and in the throes of a classical music renaissance and the MC uses magic to bring Electronica and Rock and Roll to this world hyper early.
What if someone made a "Youtube music collabing isekai anime"? Youtubers that make electronic music (that don't have lyrics) can have their songs featured in an isekai where the MC who remembers watching them passes them off as his own in a world thats already music obsessed and wows them with his "genius". That, or the MC could just be a music-theory genius who canonically "made" all these songs himself, with the blessing from their irl creators.

Kumodesu tickled my imagination and made me come up a spider-show idea that I call [Legend of the Bard Spider], something that leans into the Spider-ness a little more.
The MC is a spider and uses his magical threads to A. make music but B. more importantly uses threads to create magical AND-gates and such and makes his webs into giant magical circuit boards. And uses them to make chiptune music like one would with a Gameboy. Plucking strings to manually play in conjunction with it. On the Rock side he would be a one-man-band and use the web-computers to play backing sounds like drums and keyboard, while he plays guitar, rhythm guitar, and bass guitar manually on his strings with his many limbs. Thrashing to and throe all badass like as he does.
The world's magic system would lean towards the supremacy of the Bard very lopsidedly. Musical spells rule all.

Before Kumodesu I sometimes fantasized about Tanya having music as a hobby and using her computation orb to play advanced music in a similar fashion. Which makes her superiors and the world at large shit their pants after the war and it leaks how sophisticated her mastery over magic and computation orbs are

>>287288484
Honestly, /a/ can be full of shitposters but there are also many people with creativity. Don't underestimate the power of autism unironically.

>>287288455
>thing that's not even true makes isekai bad because... ugh... well... it just is bad because I say so!
>something something MUH originality
>but of course when it's about my own favorite things that are not isekai, then originality doesn't matter anymore because... well, it just doesn't!

>>287294444
Yeah, that was what I was thinking about, but it kind of boils down to them just having a good idea and not being good authors. They bank on one good idea, developt it, then when it needs to become a long term series, it's all they have so they just go back to the trope comfort zone.
I think a lot of manga end up doing that too. IMO Frieren does that shit.
>>287294537
I think a lot of things done on it were done by other series, the thing is that the glue that kept it all together was the author deciding to be at least somewhat competent and make things connect and make sense. So the collection of tropes + his own interpretation of them + the author being semi-competent is probably why it's so high rated by many today and why it was so highly rated in Narou for so long even without an anime. He also took a lot of fan advice over the years, so there's definitely some of that involved.
If a really good author came along and did an isekai it would probably also be extremely highly rated too.

all i need is a sadistic love interest and im a happy man

>>287295312
Re:zero introduces shitty gimmicks and shrouds them in mystery (this is the good part) and then as the anime goes on the more they suck.
Return by Death is the pinnacle of this. It's a cool mysterious ability, eventually it just becomes an outlet for the author to explore anything without any consequences. The author for years has made no effort to limit it, or put any sort of rules to it that forces him to cleverly write around it, so most arcs boil down to "Everyone dies easily and horribly until I get tired and decide to write how they managed to beat this obstacle", but the earlier loops just diminish the "solution" as it makes everything feel like it's just plot armor and pure luck, specially since Subaru himself is weak as fuck and a retard.
Same happens with any worldbuilding, or villains. The only thing that keeps me interested is the ovearching plot but I just know that shit will suck when it gets revealed.

Picture this- a group of school friends turned office workers ( (lets say 3 gals and 3 guys)- one of them owns a coffee shop- who live in the same city away from their families so they meet up each week to socialize. All six of them get isekaied into a medieval fantasy world. So now they become adventurers! But here's the twist- we don't cover their adventures. Instead we see them meet up at the tavern every evening and talk about various things that happened in their day. One manages to marry a sheltered rich ojousama who realises she is a lesbian, one has funny encounters while channelling spirits for her clients, one is a bureaucrat who hates his work...etc.

>>287300471
ok but who asked you to review Re:Zero? The point is that introduces interesting plotlines to get you invested in the whole regression gimmick and seeing what comes next. Trimming all this away and making the MC fight an assortment of random monsters over and over again sounds like total shit, quality of writing aside. This thread is about premises, not execution in ideal scenarios.

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>>287288455
there's so much isekai that you can find almost anything

>>287291253
Thats just the shitty parts of the Spider Isekai.

>>287294940
>an extremely deep history and lore that shames the monotony of the world he came from.
You clearly never bothered to learn anything about history after school.

>>287288455
The plot of "it's a wonderful life" but instead of being taken to an alternative timeline where he didn't exist, he's taken across time to the fall of Rome
In the midst of his despair and a bunch of people speaking languages he doesn't understand, he meets a scribe that somehow understands him, leading him to follow him around and eventually use him to find his way into his new life, while also trying to go back
After he understands the human experience in it's natural state, goes through the horrors of war and misery and converts, the scribe then reveals he's an angel of God, and takes him across time where he learns how usury ultimately brought the end of Christendom, and flashes through the centuries until he is taken back to his period
The story then ends with him finding his family again and having a newfound resolution to fight against the ills of his society
Could work with a feudal japanese setting too

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My Struggle to become successful painter
>Former politician, assassination attempt goes wrong. Gets hit by a truck anyway.
>no cheat abilities.
>born into repressive regime that forbids the creation of art. No color. Brutalist architecture.
>remembers what happens last time he got into politics and swears off it. Decides he will just paint in private.
>One of his paintings is discovered by authorities. Close family takes the fall for and is executed in his place. Swears vengeance.
>Begins circulating political cartoons critical of the regime with the goal of one day returning art to the people.
>Discovers that in this world art has tangible power, when a human of sufficient force of will draws something it can manifest into reality in some way.
>The reason the ruling class forbids art is because they lack the ability to manifest their will. This is because they merely appear to be human but aren't.
>Our guy goes on a one man crusade to wake up the people to their own latent ability to manifest beauty and defeat the demons who feed on human misery.
Pic unrelated

Well, name your top 5 "GOOD" isekai first to set a baseline of what you expect.

You can do with tropey nonsense and generic shit as long as you are a good author and write a good story with good worldbuilding, setting, systems, character development, etc.

>>287301388
Unironically baller plot
I often struggle to imagine a proper aesthetic presentation of our time refitted into fantasy because so much of it can be described by the word "comfort", such that no other time period or world could fulfill it quite as well as ours, particularly without going with the futurist nature of our period

I concieved this brilliant concept a while ago. A buddy cop isekai.
>Two MCs
>A native veteran knight of the kingdom, a grizzled, hard nosed knight that always gets his man
>Knight's commander calls him to his office
>Tells him it's been 5 years since his partner died, and it's time he get a new one
>a rookie recruit just showed up from the Academy (tm), and he also happens to be from another world
>ENTER Our other MC, the person from our Earth
>They're a loose cannon, living on the edge and never playing by the rules
>together, this unlikely duo has to sus out crime in the kingdom and beyond
>Start out hating each other, but slowly come to appreciate each other's quirks
>Isekaijin teaches veteran to think outside the box and play dirty
>Veteran instills a sense of honor and duty into the brash youth
>With a cavalcade of quirky side character knights they occasionally team up with
>The "firefighters" in this verse are the Adventurer's Guild, with which the Knight's Order has a longstanding rivalry with
>Veteran MC has oneitis while Isekaijin makes a small harem, much to veteran's shock
Tell me this wouldn't be kino

>be some nameless self-insert Japanese schmuck salaryman
>be at yakitori place after shitty job getting drunk
>somehow choke to death on skewer of なんこつ
>wake up
>you’re now an American in the early 20th century
>your only desire is to cook less shitty chicken than what killed you
>your name? Harlem Sandies

>>287301549
Or just take a Colombo-like detective and isekai him so now he really has to get his noggin joggin to solve crimes with magix around and lack of modern technology.

>>287301549
Gay formalization but the concept itself is pretty cool, would be nice to see this inspired by history rather than gookfied fantasy shit
That would pose it's own problems though. Namely:
Modern crime doesn't work into the past or fantasy because they are the result of the state using them as a psychological tool. In the Medieval period crime was punished very harshly, which is why they needed to make sure they had very rigorous courts, and the nature of these crimes was a lot less organized than in modernity. Knights and squires didn't really suit up to fight crime, but to fight wars against nations, although the occasional bandit raid did happen.
And also, a modern faggot going back into the past to act like an even bigger faggot would be gay and subversive, just like buddy cop movies were. Someone like that would (justly) get the gallows for being a retard.

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Just write something like this and rake in the dough.

>>287300675
Re:Zero introduces shitty gimmicks and fails to deliver on them. Subaru makes no attempt at learning more about the world and this gives the author an excuse to do what I said he does. Anon introduced his idea and the premise involves actively developing the world as the protagonist is actively curious as opposed to depending on shitty mystery gimmicks, or making the MC a weak useless retarded faggot that just dies and lets everyone die to satisfy his guro fetish until he makes him beat obstacles through plot armor or bullshit star knowledge, or so is what I understood from what he wrote.
I mean yeah, if you take his premise at face value then it sounds boring because it's vague, but if the premise were to be developed properly it would make it "Re:Zero done right".
>"But you could say that about any premise"
No shit.
Also depending on cool premises that go nowhere is the reason on why so many isekai and manga sucks so much ass.

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>>287288455
>Story starts out as six teenage hicks from the countryside who are all friends- 3 boys, 3 girls- end up dying in an accident altogether.
>All six are then presented before a 'God of Death'™, who basically gaslights them and says that because they lived in the countryside and died so young, their next life would be filled with riches and pleasure and will inevitably meet each other once more in the next life.
>5 of the 6 are then reincarnated shortly thereafter, with the last one being our MC, who doesn't get immediately reincarnated with them.
>'God of Death'™ begins to cackle and basically taunts the MC, basically calling him and his friends morons for believing such a lie.
>'God of Death'™ tells MC that he's been bored, wants MC to go and entertain him by killing his former friends in the new life, and if he fails or refuses to do it he'll be damned for a thousand years.
>MC goes all 'nowayfag' and starts talking about the 'Power of Friendship'™ before getting transported to lower depths of Hell where he inevitably ends up getting tortured a few minutes before transporting back to the Death God.
>After getting tortured, MC realizes he wouldn't be able to fight the Death God, is forced to face that fact that he'll have to kill his former friends.
>Story then follows his journey as being born as a lowly peasant and his struggle to kill those who he had loved and have now become corrupted by power (think Epstein level shit, and with the exception of one, who's the 'good girl CF who loved him the entire time').
Basic concept that I thought of. As you can see, more of a Gardner type of writer than an Architect type of writer, story would evolve over time. Was thinking cyberpunk-esque setting but also open to idea of victorian-gothic type setting with magic instead of science.

>Isekai but there are two protagonists
>The world they goes to is an amalgamation of 18th century France mixed with Victorian England
>They uncover a plot to take over this civilization with esoteric magic
>One of them tries to react against it by using esoteric magic in response
>The other tries to react against it by rejecting magic
>They eventually discover that all of modern (late 14th century onwards) technology is based on magic and weird shit
>The one against magic realizes he has to destroy this civilization despite it's great aesthetics and life and return to a more primitive way of being
>The other believes they only have to replace their enemies instead
>It ultimately becomes about them fighting for the soul of that civilization while both sides kill the demons and it's pawns that attempt to usurp it

I forgot to mention but the protagonists should be respectively Seto Kaiba and Atem

>>287288455
Isekai Summoner MC pimps and whores out his summoned anime girls to preverted native men for money in his 'Summon Brothel'

>MC is married to a loving wife and have a daughter together
>One day MC got truck-kun'd
>MC wakes up in an isekai world
>met a girl that help him in Isekai world
>MC was taken into a village where the girl lived. MC helped out the village with various things, living a simple rural life
>Time passed, MC realized the girl has feelings for him, knowing that he may not return back to his world, marries the girl and have a daughter together
>One day both MC and his new family got transported back to his original world
>MC wake up in hospital and saw his original wife for the first time in a long time.
>turns out time flow slower in the OG world than in isekai world, MC was in a coma for 6 months while he was in Isekai world for 10+ years.
>OG Wife was so happy that MC finally woke up but is later horrified that there's a woman and a girl sleeping beside MC.
>MC helping his isekai wife and daughter to adjust in the modern world
>rivalry hijinks between OG Wife and Isekai Wife for MC's attention and a fierce competition to determine who is the better wife for MC
>meanwhile the daughters starting have father complex
>secretly called their Mamas old hags for hogging papa to themselves
>competes with each other in who is the favored daughter turns into a fierce race of who will bear papa's child first as their father complex grows
>their schemes always foiled by their mamas much to their annoyances
>MC decides to take the whole family on an oversea holiday
>Takes the plane, mid way through the flight all the planes engine failed and the plane crashed into the sea
>MC wakes up to find himself back in the isekai world
>with his entire family with him
>decide to spend the holiday (and probably the rest of their lives) in isekai world as MC helped the OG wife and daughter to adjust to the isekai world

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>>287302187
>Triple isekai
You son of a bitch, im in.

>MC gets isekai'd
>Gets hospitalized
>Actually comes back somehow
>Still has his powers
>Become a modern-day super hero

>>287288455
No, nobody here can write something better than the worst isekai you can think of, for starters nobody here knows what "writing" mean, and this is just by looking at the thread.

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>>287288455
I'd do a time travel isekai with the MC thinking he's gonna bring the ancient civilization to the modern day only to realize he knows fuckall and it becomes a story of him trying to recreate advanced technology with no knowledge except the fact that it's supposed to work

A lot of the so-called "original isekai ideas" pitched around in this thread have actually already been written by someone on narou/kakuyomu at some point. These ideas aren't anywhere as ""original"" as you seem to believe.

>>287288455
MC can isekai himself and anyone around him at will, and does so whenever he gets in over his head, either a physical threat or something else. He collects various companions from different worlds as he goes. Instead of his own skills or knowledge from his original world being useful, he has to primarily rely on the skills and knowledge of the other people he's collected. These other characters have to deal with being isekai'd, and have different reactions to being basically kidnapped across dimensions by the MC with no way to get back themselves. Some might be happier. Some might be in a murderous rage about losing the life they were taken from, forcing an immediate isekai-out by the MC and his more willing companions. Eventually he gathers some misfits from various different universes who find the adventure of flitting between worlds every few weeks or years or whatever fun. Some drop off along the way, either because they weren't nearby when the MC needs to isekai out again, or because they find the current world to their liking and decide to stay and abandon the isekai party. Maybe some are sticking with the MC in the hopes that he'll randomly bring them back to their own world. But it is random and there's no telling how many different worlds there actually are to jump between. There could be a range of motivations and sentiments. In some worlds, some characters thrive, in others, they're useless. But over time the core group is able to cover each other's weaknesses pretty well with a different set of strengths so the MC doesn't feel a need to isekai out as often. They spend some time exploring, gathering useful resources and items that might be useful to trade or use in whatever new universe they end up in, but inevitably they come across something that makes them want to or need to leave, sometimes with a bit of warning, sometimes with very little. There's always the chance that somebody will be left behind because of wrong place/wrong time.

>>287301549
>>287301674
Does the other MC play out exactly like a cheesy 80s action movie star with the sunglasses, one-liners at the ready, an unexplained supply of Aloha shirts despite constantly tearing them off, and things he shoots exploding for some reason?

>>287288455
The MC can't see his or others' stats or skills. All the systems are hidden. MC has to trial and error his way to a decent build. Replace the pseudo European setting with a medieval fantasy pseudo Chinese setting. No demon king. The main antagonist is the ruling government that executes all transmigrators cause of their crazy potential (maybe add some past isekai MC coming to the same world and committing war crimes).

>>287290417
BC this is how the average Japanese guy, and many Japanese creators, actually think and feel.

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>Listen up. You've got all these delusional so-called creators, these self-proclaimed writers (yeah, right), running their mouths about doing something "no one's ever done before" and being "original". Here's the truth. If nobody's done it, it's because people who actually know what they're doing already thought of it and threw it out. And if you can't even understand why the classics work, you're never going to write anything good. Not now, not ever. You're not some visionary. You're just a hack who doesn't understand the basics.

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>>287288455
How about this:
>dude with leprosy gets isekai'd
>he's destined to defeat the evil overlord
>he rapes a girl instead lmao