What is your honest opinion about the Boruto franchise?
>>287288759It's peak fictionThe people hating it have never seen it
None as I've never watched or read it
>>287288759It will never be better than Naruto.And its pacing is very bad.
>>287288759I think I like Borutos dad more than him. I hope we get a prequel series starring him
>>287288759I never cared for Naruto to begin with and boruto just looks embarrassingly try hard in particular when I already thought Naruto was trying too hard with gay emo shit and was why I didn't really get into it
>>287288759You know they made an official YouTube channel dedicated to boruto and naruto content.https://youtu.be/hx05bnb59sY>And there is more naruto content uploaded on it than boruto.Let that sink in.
>>287288804>>287288828Hopefully, we'll get more adventures with Naruto after Boruto ends. One way or another. I'm hoping for an actual Naruto Part 3 and/or reboot This is similar to how the DB franchise hit the rewind button after GT that inevitably led to Super.
>>287288962But super was terrible, though Kishi showed he still retained some magic with that Minato oneshot. If Naruto does come back, only he should write and draw it but I don’t see it happening
>>287288759Everything that I would not have wanted in a Naruto sequel. Coming up with excuses to sideline Naruto and Sasuke in their prime.The pairings are atrocious and only the assumption that there's an underlying misery of obligation instead of passion makes any kind of real sense. Throwing the established in-universe conflicts out the window in favor of external threats (basically Sasuke's revolution still effectively happens due to plot)Pretending that prominent characters don't even exist even though they live in the Land of Fire.Making Kaguya into an anomaly instead of the rule (could have had interesting plots with other Otsutsuki being on the verge of revival via particular conditions being met. Alien parasite gods is retarded and boring. 10 tails fragments are even worse. The art is fucking bad, there's no two page spreads, the anime ranges from uninspired to slideshow and the OST is just boring. I wouldn't buy anything related to Bort because it offends me in so many ways. In comparison I've spent hundreds on Naruto merch.
>>287289450>The pairings are atrocious.What is the deal with Naruto fans and the end game cannon pairings.
>>287288759The anime seems weirdly overhated in most places. I mean it's nothing amazing but seeing people find it worse than the manga itself seems weird.
>>287289483Probably because those pairings are effectively crackships decided in some boardroom because there's an implicit issue with Naruto and Sasuke unable to have children together.
>>287288759Doesn't deserve to be hated so much, l've read the manga of TBV, and it's not bad just a bit bland and boring at times.Thing I keep on rambling about is how the Ohtsutsuki made the Boruto plot much boring.
>>287288759You mean the Naruto franchise. All of it is dogshit.
>>287288759I like it but it has problems like the pacing.Of course it can never compare to Naruto but it doesn't have to be since it's so different. Kinda like dbz and gt
>>287288759Absolute dogshit read.Botched characters.Botched lore.Botched power systems.Yes, even more that in the original.
>>287288759Pure rancid shit. Further submitting it's shit legacy. Naruto never really recovered after Pain's Assault Arc in 2010.
The series has huge pacing issues.It's a monthly manga where the plot moves less each chapter than most weekly manga. You always get the feeling nothing happened despite reading over 40 pages of it.It has a lot of other issues regarding plot, characters, art, etc, but the pacing just makes everything much, much worse.
Making Naruto a shitty incompetent dad for no logical reason killed any goodwill for this series from the start
>>287288759Boring and unnecessary.
>>287288759BELIEVE ITBELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT BELIEVE IT
>>287288759sarada was hot when she was young and dressed like a slut in the manga before the time skipthat's all i know or care about
>>287288759Boruto and Eida make hard carry
I deny its existence. Naruto ended at chapter 700.
>>287290680For me it's chapter 699.
>>287290656This was the fucking panel that made me fall off my computer chair laughing.Apart from aliens , cyborgs and mutants now you have super man lazer beam eyes and a flying wonder women rendering.Revel on that shit
>>287288759It's unironically improved since the time-skip but it's still shit with horrible pacing and no consistency in either power-levels or world building.
>>287288759I'm not a fan of the pacing, characterization, villains, character design, or Ikemoto's art style. I like some panels, and some of the fights are animated brilliantly and fun to watch, but I just can't get absorbed in it like I did with Naruto it has a soul.
>>287289645Two fucking guys man
>>287289747the writing is ass. They have really interesting and unique character concepts but can't actually put it to use in the actual story. Amado for example is a pretty interesting character in my opinion.
>>287288759If it had more interesting things going on instead of cloning every character from Naruto and making them overly sexualised, sure, I'd give it another try, but it just feels so pointless.In my head, >>287289875>this.I can't justify this as canon Mostly because I cannot accept Naruto, the original main character with an underdog story, becoming such a terrible father.
>>287288759I honestly think its pretty bad. I don't think its particularly enjoyable to read. If it wasn't a monthly series, I think the pacing would feel better. But theres no build-up to things so it feels like things are just happening to happen; especially with characters and their power creep. The art and character designs have gotten better since it first came out, but I still dont think they mesh well when compared to Kishimoto's designs.
>>287291887still shippable.
>>287291887Two guys with very strong feelings about each other.
>>287288759IT'S PEAK DOGSHIT
best girl
>>287288759BoruEida makes it worthwhile
>>287288759Everyone looks like a Wigger
>>287294045the most retarded design maybe in history
>>287288759Naruto ended with the wall of eternal ass pain.
>>287288759Never seen it. You couldn't pay me to touch this slop.
>>287294332*most beautiful design maybe in history
The naruto daily is showing me how shit naruto was, i don't wanna know how bad boruto must be.Also, boruto is a shit name, can't stand it. And sometimes people translate the bitch's name as salada which mean salad so i can't read that shit
>>287288759Its dumb in a way that I sincerely enjoy
>>287288759It’s dog shit or worse. No one should read this vomit. It’s for faggits and hood weebs. We must purge them out.
>>287288759Naruto was always shit writing, but the art in Boruto is just unforgivable. It's so fucking ugly. Ikemoto has dogshit tastes and is a terrible character designer. Boruto looks like an effeminate edgy fag. Sarada's first design was so trashy he was forced to scrap it entirely. Hinata was ruined. Even Naruto looks like a washed up unc when he's supposed to be a gigachad with unrivaled life force.
>>287288759Absolutely horrible. Horrible name, horrible premise, horrible art, horrible characters, horrible plot, completely nonsensical powerscaling, etc.Whoever waved it through did not realize the main selling point of Naruto was the art, especially the action sequences."Boruto" is ugly-sounding and derivative, it's like if Minato chose to name his kid Binato. It doesn't help that Boruto himself looks like a knockoff version (wow two whiskers instead of three!) of Naruto with marshmallow spaghetti hair.Kishimoto set it up to fail by making the epilogue depict the characters married in their 30s with children, when he hadn't bothered to write any romance in the series leading up to it. It's batshit to jump straight from Sasuke leaving Sakura and Kakashi to die to having a kid with her. He should have made the epilogue 2-3 years later when they were all still single, since if Gaara could become Kazekage at 16 or whatever then Naruto should have been able to become Hokage in his early 20s.Shingo Kimura should have been the artist. No explanation needed. Ikemoto's art is trash and he's obviously a pedophile. He dresses Sarada in stripper outfits when she's 12, complete with pancake makeup and like 6 inch platform heels.The characters from Naruto are OOC and the new ones are extremely annoying. Kawaki just comes off like a bad attempt to make a knockoff version of Sasuke to match Boruto being the knockoff version of Naruto. All of the characters are over-designed, way too many tattoos and piercings and patterns and moving parts. If you want to make a character stand out and be iconic they have to have a clean recognizable look and distinct personality features that stand out.The plot is nonsensical. Way too many villains and side villains.The powerscaling is one of the worst aspects though. Boruto fans will unironically tell you that Naruto without the Nine Tails solos Kaguya.
>>287295853thanks chatgpt
>>287288759Its hard to have honest conversations about it because it has entered the same space that SAO and Star Wars have where its viewed as some cultural battle so people will defend these shows no matter what.
>>287295610It's painfully bad. Some Redditor called them BDSM clowns and now I can never forget the phrase.
>>287294903chapter 1 Sasuke looks like Snape
>>287294332I don't get why people say Ada design is so bad or out of place when they would not say that and Jojo character designs.
>>287295890>Malding because I'm right.
>>287296026maybe because Jojo BIZZARE adventures is not about Ninjas? that could be a reason bro
>>287295985I mean isn’t that what we are doing right now anon having an honest conversation about this series.
>>287296137Yeah but using the branding like that feels lame in the same way people justify Game Theory being wrong about anything by saying its just a theory or people who use the saying its just subjective to have bad takes.
>>287296079>>287295853>>287295610>>287292124Could've worked out maybe 100 years after Naruto or something. The story and villians are recycled
>>287296269but if most people who know naruto for decades don't like it and say it's bad there must be a reason for it. high heels, big blue hair with pink strands with unnatural oversized swirls, stars on shorts, how is this good design in the Narutoverse? how is this good design in any series?
>>287295853>>287289450kishi claimed he is bad at writing relationships and romance.
>>287288759The climactic theme of the story of in two blue vortex was that Boruto had everything and lost everything. Yet in the same arc he gains everything that he lost back in the fucking arc that drags itself slower than faggio scooter from gta.Similar to the original were hard work beats talent , boruto lost everything and gained it back in a matter of days
>>287296282I would enjoy a story about the previous hokage or minato’s life during his younger days.
>>287296282Maybe. I personally think a prequel would be way better. Show Hashirama and Madara becoming friends, the politics of the WSE, the heartbreak of Izuna dying, their massive epic battles. So much to expand on and the fujoshi would go wild.
>>287288759embarrassing, really
>>287288759I hate it about as much as I love Naruto, but I have to read it to see the franchise end.It doesn't even feel like it's in the same universe as Naruto. The pacing is atrocious, the tone is completely out to sync with Naruto, Boruto in 2 Blue Harvest is such a boring dull characters, and all the other characters with the exception of Aida, Daemon, Sarada, Kawaki, Kashin Koji, the tree people, and a few others might as well not exist
>>287289450>Pretending that prominent characters don't even exist even though they live in the Land of Fire.The Leaf has been invited 4 times, IT'S CURRENTLY BEING INVADED, but despite the Kakashi and Tsunade both being alive and living in the Leaf, they are nowhere to be seen.
>>287289450>Throwing the established in-universe conflicts out the window in favor of external threats (basically Sasuke's revolution still effectively happens due to plot)Reminder that the Naruto villagers were not supposed to be on friendly terms after the 4th Ninja War, they merely worked together to save themselves, and Kishimoto literally said that it was supposed to be a Cold War between the villages after the war.But the series doesn't even acknowledge that other villages exist outside of the Sand, which was like 300 chapters into the series.
A major plus I give that I always see as being hated is the tech specifically the weapon tech in Boruto compared to Naruto. The series having much more primitive weapons compared to the rest of their technology always felt weird for such war mongering countries. Even with the idea that some people could defeat entire armies by themselves the weapon tech would still be advancing a ton and look more like it does in Boruto
>>287288759I wasn't very keen on a sequel being announced around a year after Naruto ended and I wasn't a fan of the first arc being basically a chapter-by-chapter recap of the Boruto movie, but I think it's been alright, it won't reach the same highs as its predecessor, but it doesn't do anything offensive like other sequels out there. The anime was enjoyable until it started to run out of steam in budget and ideas for filler. I like some of yhe original characters like Kawaki, Jigen, Iwabe, Tsubaki, Wasabi, etc. It's been going for almost 11 years now and it's not going to be cancelled like its haters keep wishing everyday.In short, it's just okay.
>>287297189They totally dropped the tech vs traditional weaponry thing a long time ago.The only remnant is Delta, which is retarded.
Would be kino if Boruto fucked Hanabi Eida and a resurrected Kaguya
>>287297189I never hated the technology aspect of Boruto, the aliens I can understand, but the tech could've been complementary to shinobi fights. Shame it hadn't been utilized after the old writer left.
>Boruto has no real motivation, no being the "hokage's shadow" doesn't count>He's both boring as fuck and unlikable because he's perfect in every way meaning we don't get to see him grow and change through struggle. He was a massive fucking asshole when we first met him and not the in the lovable sort of way like Naruto. Post time skip, what little personality he had has been COMPLETELY drained from here>There's no levity at all>The power scaling is absurd, at this point, Boruto is probably stronger than every previous Hokage save for Hashirama and Naruto. Even when Naruto achieved Sage Mode, he clearly wasn't stronger than any previous Hokage.>There's literally no theme, Naruto was about ending the cycle of hatred, what the purpose of a Ninja was, beating destiny, never giving up, etc>They obliterated the world building, remember how to Kage summit occurred because Sasuke invaded the Cloud Village and supposedly killed Killer Bee? Well, why the fuck with all these fucking monsters roaming around and attack Konoha and nearly killing Gaara does that not spark a new summit? Literally all the other villages might as well not exist anymore>quadrupling down on Ōtsutsuk, who was horribly boring villains with no personality beyond being evil and wanting charka fruit>Boruto's and Kawaki's relationship makes no sense when you realize they would have known each other for no more than like 5 months before Kawaki betrayed him>Art sucks>Took 200 chapters before we even acknowledged another village>We don't see any of the first generation Ninjas.>Why is Shikamura Hokage when there are two living former Hokages? They didn't promotion Shizune to Hokage when Tsunade was near death after the Pain arc>The tree people lack any motivation, no instinct is not a good motive>All the villains lack charisma
>>287297299Can Delta even count? She's just a bio-engineered clone.
Naruto GT
>>287297359>Why is Shikamura Hokage when there are two living former Hokages? They didn't promotion Shizune to Hokage when Tsunade was near death after the Pain arcOh, that's simple: Shizune is weak and has no special skills and Tsunads and Kakashi don't want the job back.
>>287297422It would be nice if they just mentioned that they offered Kakashi and Tsunade the job but they politely declined, but judging from the rest of the series, it's pretty obvious they're hoping you don't think about that or remember that Kakashi and Tsunade exist.
>>287296569>>287296607Prequels never work. You already know what's going to happen and they are always the victims of aggressive retcons that end up ruining the original in some way.
>>287297422>Tsunads and Kakashi don't want the job back.Tsunade makes sense because she is old and in my headcanon she would try one last time for a child. but Kakashi just leaving the job is absolutely fucking retarded writing. Kakashi was the goat before Gojo. and he was sidelined for nothing. a crime.
>>287288759Very bad after the timeskip. Especially Sarada.
>>287297477I agree, but frankly, Shikamaru was the only one who made sense. In Naruto, I think it was said he was capable of becoming Hokage and he's one of the few people who knows the innermost workings of what's going on in the Boruto plot. Kakashi and Tsunade would be completely clueless. He was literally the best candidate after Naruto was "killed".
>>287289450>Ost is just boring I liked this track.https://youtu.be/DhlV-9UYAcg?t=68
>>287297568Kakashi never wanted the job. That's the thing.
>>287297568Kakashi never wanted the job and hated doing it, he only did it because Naruto wasn't ready, but again, if they just fucking explained that as a reason why he's not the Hokage now, it would be fine.
>>287297666>Kakashi never wanted the job. That's the thing.>>287297699>Kakashi never wanted the job and hated doing it,ninjas are literally the military. they are not civilians. "hurr durr I was bored" is just lazy af writing.
>>287297749I dont know about Japans history but Eisenhower and Teddy Roosevelt both didnt want the job of being president and it just sort of fell into their lap through their political Career . So its not the weirdest thing to happen.
>>287297818what an irrelevant and retarded thing to say.
>>287291791Ironic how much he avoids drawing background considering his predecessor.
>>287288759complete flop
>>287297280>>287297359It's like bad fanfiction. But at the same time it gives me freedom to do whatever I want in my own fanfiction.Daemon alone justifies anything power wise from now and on. Ikemoto was the absolute wrong choice to continue the franchise. I hope it gets the Dragonball GT Treatment.
>>287288759it's the worst kind of sequel you could make especially after how Naruto ended. One of the things that bothers me the most is how by the end of Naruto it was clear that ninja and their military systems were becoming obsolete and they were shifting to a whole new kind of world. Instead of Boruto running with that and being a new gen dealing with new problems they doubled down on much of the old shit instead but with Ayys tossed on it. You don't even have to get to the character assassinations, the terrible artstyle, the trash developments, etc. Don't ask about stuff like the hidden rain either. Just garbage all around and it's gonna get gt'd or time warped or whatever. It's holding the whole franchise hostage until then
>>287289140>Super was terribleBetter than Boruto as a sequel series though
>>287288759better than one peace
What exactly is wrong with Shikamaru being a hokage? Becoming hokage doesn't give you a power boost so it's not something that you necessarily should give a strongest shinobi in your village. In any case, Konohamaru is next in lineI must admit that they should've at least give some short explanation on why the fuck is Kakashi nowhere to be found - like, idk "as a former hokage he's on a diplomatic mission to strengthen the bonds between the villages"
>>287296400Yeah which is why he should have set his epilogue 2-3 years after the end of the battle. No need to establish couples, just let whoever writes the sequels do that.
>>287298466Ikemoto knows Shikamaru is Kishimoto's self insert and his job depends on pleasing that man
>>287297512X-Men: First Class, Casino Royale, Batman Begins, Hannibal (NBC), etc. worked well.
>>287289450>sidelining Naruto and SasukeNo need. Make the buffs a one-off + still recovering from their fight. Tailed Beasts are also vaaastly weakened, more like the giant sentient toads, and just roam around like legendary Pokemon.The sons of Jiraya, children of whores, some good,some bad.Stories resemble the Zabuza arc, with mob bosses taking control of the mess during the cold war.
>>287298466well for one thing it breaks precedent. Tsunade and Kakashi being nowhere to be found even in an advisory role when the village is in such turmoil is weird to say the least. Even weirder that the older, eternally wrong Danzo loving asshats are
>>287298530>Tsunade and Kakashi being nowhere to be found.Hey look i found ikemoto and kishimotos favorite characters.
>>287288759Sarada is sexoHimawari is sexothat is all
>>287288759It is fanfiction.
>>287298477How about just don’t include romance like oda and make any romantic theme be a running gag similar to how it was in part 1
>>287298316>character assassinationsYour fave jobbing is not "character assassination".
>>287298795>How about just don’t include romanceCan you read?
>>287298820Naruto and Sasuke being hilariously absent and shitty parents after what they went through is one of the most ridiculous things in the series
sarada sexo
>>287298920well you can blame Kishimoto for that, he was the one behind the plot, characters designs and screenplay of the Boruto movie, which is what boruto manga is based on
>>287298477Romance is one of the major plot points that drives this series people still argue over it even after naruto ended 12 years ago.
>>287298920Naruto didn't grow up with parents and Sasuke had a shitty dad. Did you really expect them to be model parents?
>>287298528Okay. That's also the case where romance is suggested rather than outright shown. They don't all need to get married right away and have kids at the same time when they're 19. Kishimoto admitted he was bad at writing romance so he should have just left it open-ended with the epilogue and left the development of the couples to someone else, when they did the sequel covering their lives in their early 20s.
>>287299061fair enough Kishi did setup that even if it's stupid.>>287299115I expect them to attempt to be better parents. Sasuke literally didn't try at all and it's implied that Naruto started off ok but shat the bed when he became Hokage despite him literally being the greatest multi-tasker in the history of the world. Sasuke only having one kid after his whole brother connection thing is weird too, but that's also on Kishi
>>287299153You keep saying that but you realize that its his manga so you cant just let other people handle the topic of romance when its his story.
the art being 'bad' is a cope and you actually have no reason to bitch but want to because you love Naruto too much
>>287299153>>287299221Edit: meant to respond to >>287299075Why not? He did that with other topics, and it's not like he cared who ended up with who.>In the last chapter, since it was implied that Hinata and Naruto had children and were married, when were you certain about doing that?>From considerably beforehand, it was decided to be Hinata. However, because there was also a period of time when I hesitated about whether or not to use Sakura (in the role instead of Hinata). For Sakura to come to here, if I had made her have a change of mind towards Naruto, as expected of that, Sakura would have been an overly “terrible” woman, probably. Moreover, Sakura practically, someway or another, regards Sasuke wholeheartedly, I think.
>>287299273Its fucking bad
>>287299420So sakura a bad women by trying to get with naruto after almost being killed by sasuke more than three times
>>287299600you'll go insane trying to make sense of Sakura and Sasuke. It happened because Kishi wanted it to happen but he but no effort whatsoever into building it
>>287298316>One of the things that bothers me the most is how by the end of Naruto it was clear that ninja and their military systems were becoming obsolete and they were shifting to a whole new kind of worldWe could have seen something like the ninja world is basically nearing it's end. The world is in total peace and new technology is a arising that kind of makes a ninja obsolete.And with a world in peace, why should the Daimyo pay the villages for their services, so you see village start to struggle with funding and that leads to issues in and of itself.We could then see someone try force a ninja war to preserve ninsho, because without a world of violence, there's no need for Ninjas. The Boruto/Naruto would try it stop, but in doing so, could lead to the end of the ninja way completely. You can have the main theme of the series be about how all things have a natural end point is is it time to just accept that all things end up obsolete and are Ninjas one of those?Conversely, they could have delved deeper into what this supposed peace in the Boruto world actually is? Kisihimoto said the peace was merely a cold war type peace, but the question is why and what the deterrent keeping the world in check and the answer could be Naurto and Sasuke. With the balance of power being completely shifted to the Leaf village due to Naruto and Sasuke's godlike power and the lack of Jinchuriki, that could led to bitterness from the other villages. We could see villages they move to potentially other sources of income as we saw with the Hidden Mist becoming a vacation destination because they can't compete with the Leaf. Kawaki, being an outsider, could be the guy who sees through the facade of this peace realize that Naruto, Sasuke, and the Leaf hold an inordinate amount of power of the Ninja world.
>>287299661Well dont bother going down the rabbit hole , i cant believe him making that claim about Sakura suddenly falling in love with Naruto would be bad and forced after what was made out of the last.
>>287288759I think it stinks
>>287294045GOAT
>>287299273Its a monthly series. It should look a fuck ton better than someone having a weekly schedule. But it just doesnt. Backgrounds are barely there at all, with no double spreads to give the series life. Most of the pages feel like Ikemoto just copies and pastes reactions from previous chapters. Amado being the worst offender.
I haz a question: do i REALLY need to watch or read whole Naruto to read Boruto?I heard the fights are more strategical
>>287303005I find it hard to believe you could be invested in any of the shit going on in Boruto without caring about Naruto. If it was a standalone series it would have gotten axed 2 vols in
>>287297623If they were to follow the way Hokage's traced their 'lineage' back to previous Kage's through blood and/or being mentored or taught Sakura would have the best claim to be the next Hokage.
>>287288759Never read it and every single time I look at it it makes me think the artist is a zesty black guy. Like that cover is drawn like how a gay black guy would draw that character to look cool.Also Salad was cute but they turned her into a prostitute which is also what I think a black person drawing it would do.
>>287288759Surprised it hasn't been axed
>>287303005You could get the gist of what Naruto is, I.E just the backstory and how the jutsus work, and jump right into Boruto and missing nothing.The only thing you really wouldn't get is who is Ao and why he's important, but he's so radically different in Boruto and he dies so early in the story that it doesn't matter.
Its a 3.5/10 series. At the end of the day it is just corporate slop. But the fans are quite frankly the worst aspect of this series. They gaslight you into into thinking it is deeper than it really is, and their only default is "the series is not bad, the internet just told you it is"
