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>daily Kenichi storytime threads are over

No....I was having so much fun....
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Yep, Sunday night i felt it, open /a/ as a reflex and remembered the story time was over.
Hope chapter 4 of Kenichi 2 is around the corner.
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Seeing anons dredge up ancient pixiv works was something
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>>287300868
We need to know what happened to Makoto.
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>>287300408
Chapter tomorrow?
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>>287300408
It was a fun ride. Weekly chapters are going to be hell.
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>>287301370
And not so ancient ones
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>>287300408
It's always like this with long and fun storytimes.
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https://exhentai.org/s/f69be09441/2691001-28
Looked for non-h gallries on sadpanda on a whim and found something mildly interesting. Appears to be a color guide for the animated OVAs? I still need to watch them.
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>>287300408
Yeah but leading into the sequel means we get weekly reunions. And I don't have to stay up till 2 AM reading because the threads are at the worst possible time and immediately archive...
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>>287302009
Less than 15 hours left
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>>287302009
With no Weebdex, I wonder where it goes. Seems mangadex is still taking it though
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>>287300408
I enjoyed reading with everyone, but it's nice to have a bit more free time. The sequel comes out weekly too so we're not going cold turkey.
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>>287300868
I felt it too.
Kinda sad, but atleast the shinpaku /a/lliance will keep living on even after the storytime with the series return
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Chihiro Takashima is very underappreciated
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downhill after ragnarok
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>>287300408
Renka was fucking wasted, she should have at least been in the tournament arc
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>>287303170
I wish 80% of Rachel's parts weren't in dogshit quality
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>>287301370
I was impressed by how recent some of the stuff I was finding was. Post-2020 fujoshi still wanting to watch Sakaki take it up the yaoi hole from Akisame, shit is wild.
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>>287303434
her sex fights with rachel were great
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>>287303802
I thought it was hilarious that both of the brown characters got paired up
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I need more shigure ass in my life, PLEASE!
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>>287303434
The tournament arc has to juggle enough people without that part timer butting in
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>>287303906
Pixiv and Gelbooru/Danbooru have what you're after.
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>>287303986
i don't want to browse, i want more Shigure ass (Official)!
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>>287303434
For whatever reason, Matsuena had no idea what to do with her. She could have easily fought Tanimoto, considering he is literally the disciple of her uncle. Huge lost opportunity in the original, but here's hoping Matsuena makes the match-up happen in the sequel.
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>>287303215
I like her despite how little screentime she has
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>>287304419
That is NOT my demon king
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>>287302337
It's not fair...
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>>287304943
Yeah, the real one wears programmer socks while hacking nukes
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>>287304943
Don't check Pixiv too hard. So much Nijima stuff is him and Seig though he does have some fun normal stuff at least.
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>>287305079
You say that like it's a bad thing
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anyone got a raw scan of this?
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>>287305627
>Final boss acknowledge Nijima as the most dangerous individual of the Shinpaku Alliance
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>>287300408
I've grown used to looking forward to these threads daily. It was a fun ride.
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>>287300408
>it's over
Have to say I'd forgotten most of it before these threads, only yomi fight I actually remembered was the wrestling tag match, but that was probably just due to renka being sex.
Was a fun ride rereading it with anons.
I probably wouldn't have made it past volume 25 on my own with how deep fried this shit got.
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>>287304943
He got a glow up with the Zaitbatsu, like Jeff Bezos going from balding nerd in a cardigan to looking like a Fast and Furious character
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>>287306212
I need to see how Kisarass is drawn in Syun's modern art style.
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>>287306898
Considering Apachai had a tiger, I wonder if he could be the one to refine her cat style. She never really used it outside of the tournament that I remember.
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>>287300408
I sadly wasnt in the thread but I assume their will be nothing simalar now like Tenjiho Tenge or Ikki Tousen
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>>287302337
This makes insane Yami women get wet
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This was such a unique manga. Actually an underdog protagonist, hilarious gags despite being repetitive, a supporting cast that wasn't totally abandoned, everything about Niijim. Also, Kisara is cute and I wish we got to see her more in the later arcs.
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>>287300408
>daily Kenichi storytime threads are over
Weekly Kenichi chaptertimes have only just begun. Trust the plan.
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>>287308013
>Actually an underdog protagonist
Kenichi really does standout as one of the protagonist who stays an underdog or doesn't get retconned out of one being later.
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>>287308090
Just wait until it gets retconned in pt2. There's no way a sequel is a good idea with the state of modern manga.
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>>287308090
I'd say he naturally developed into someone who is no longer considered an underdog without it seeming like an asspull or the result of some hidden talent/lineage. Almost every other shonen fails at this by inevitably making the MC some sort of child of destiny who was meant to be great all along.
Kenichi always remains a dude who just trained really, really hard, and his triumphs are the result of all that training.
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>>287308137
That's the danger of the sequel but I'm hoping Matsuena sticks mostly to using ideas he probably already had for the original series.
So far it's just been a continuation of the Miu-Kuremisago situation but we will see.
If we get ayys and Kenichi actually turns out to belong to a lost line of legendary warriors from his mother's side, it's safe to say it'll have jumped the shark.
The good part with these sequels though is that they can be safely ignored if they turn to shit.
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>>287304397
She was supposed to be love rival with Miu except he wrote the relationship between Miu and Ken too strong that it's impossible for Ken-chan to be swayed.
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>>287308090
>>287308163
Truth be told, he is no underdog. He is just a late bloomer. All his rivals have been training since they crawled, and Kenichi, within the span of two years reached and surpassed their level. I mean yeah, he has literally the BEST masters in universe. But Yomi were not risen in a McDojo neither.
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>>287308942
That's just manga logistics, in general. I can see why it usually happens like that, it would be a pain (perhaps somewhat ironically so) to have long in-universe stretches of time where the protagonist can only train and build discipline.
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Shigure x Kenichi best ship
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>>287308942
it's intended to prove the superiority of his masters and their training methods though.
we do see that when a guy like takeda (at first unable to even deal with kisara) also gets training from a master, he improves very rapidly and by the end is capable of taking out one of the strongest yomi disciples.
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>>287308991
People read too deep into Shigure being a goofball. She just likes to be treated as a woman by chauvinists like Kenichi and Hongo.
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>>287308229
>a lost line of legendary warriors from his mother's side
>Not his father's
Gunfu is in his blood
Shame, anon
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>>287309107
I worry more so about the theory that Kenichi's mother is Sakaki's sister.
Kenichi didn't choose the weapon jobber route so his father's talents were meaningless as far as his development goes as a martial artist.
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>>287308137
He does just pull out master level ki nonsense at the end.
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>>287309085
Women want to be treated like women and act out when they are not is hard to grasp for some people.
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>>287305811
>Fate acknowledges Nodoka as the most dangerous individual of Ala Alba
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>>287309234
Kenichi managing to nail it once in a life or death situation after 600 chapters of having to beg and scrape for every inch of improvement is fine. It's not even like he permanently gets the master ki thing he goes up a level but openly says in the final chapter that he hasn't managed to do it again.
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>>287309211
Even if she was Sakaki's sister he clearly inherited none of Sakaki's genes because every single person who trains him flat out says Kenichi has zero talent.
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>>287309524
Ogata saw talent in him. But maybe Ogata is more focused on the mental aspect than the physical, because of his "Seidou Gōitsu" experiments.
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>>287309211
At first I thought Akisame was related to Kenichi, they look similar
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>>287309557
Ogata hasn't seen the process though, only the results and the result is Kenichi beating his top student, Odin.
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kenichi's training might as well be steroids considering what his masters manages to do with his body but considering his humble beginnings I feel like kenichi manages to be both an underdog and not an underdog at the same time
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>>287300408
>No....I was having so much fun....
then story time it again
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>>287309887
I think the balance comes from him being the strongest of his friends (minus Miu of course, but that's a narrative thing) and making it a toss-up whether he'll be evenly matched or outclassed by whichever opponent he's against
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>>287309711
Indeed, but I think he was more intrigued by Kenichi as a person who could master both Dou and Sei Ki.
Kenichi's also more mentally stable than his other test subjects, which he ultimately realizes is the key ingredient to utilizing that technique to its fullest.
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>>287308942
Most Yami aren't training their disciples as hard, and they usually have several of them with their best one being put in Yomi. They're more into transmitting their techniques and ideology than whatever human experiment Akisame and Ma are doing to Kenichi. His body is the only reason he wins most of his matches.

Even Atlan-something made leaps of progress once Ogata taught her seriously.
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>>287308229
>if we get aliens
>jump the shark
So Kenichi jumped the shark at chapter 1?
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>>287310071
I give Akisame, his machines and the "pink muscle" training most of the credit.
It's as magical as the hag being able to make you immortal and utilize zero strength while ripping grown men apart.
Unfortunately in her case she completely failed the mental training.
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Wonder how Matsuena will deal with Kenichi's path to Mastery going forward. He navigated Ken from Normal to Expert with stuff like Ragnarok, the Tournament and Yomi. Doesn't feel like the Kuremisago and returning Yami/Yomi will be enough to bridge the gap between Expert and Master+.
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>>287310130
niijima is a honorary human. but we don't need the rest of his family from another galaxy to get involved with the story.
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>>287309976
>mental stability is important for improvement
Whoa...
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>>287310160
You can be a loon and still be a very capable fighter (most masters are pretty loony, honestly). But they're unlikely to master a dangerous technique that requires calm judgment and understanding of one's limits to be used to its best effect.
An overly emotional or illogical person is bound to be baited into using it in a way that is detrimental to them.
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>>287310251
True, true. The sarcasm was more directed at Ogata than anything.
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>>287310269
I mean, yeah, he should've been able to figure that out from the beginning. But I think in his case it's just a lack of giving a damn about the kids. He didn't want to put himself through the process of testing it so he had a bunch of kids do it in his stead.
Once he did use it, he easily disposed of several masters with the technique. It was interesting, after reading through it again, how the "bad guys" and their methods sort of get vindicated like that.
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>>287309887
I think he's firmly an underdog in Ragnarok, then at the start of Yomi you can see him sort of be in an intermediate stage and then after he beats Shou it becomes more a matter of Yomi trying to beat him than the other way around.
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>>287310355
He got compared a lot to Tiger Niko from Kengan but it does make a difference that all his experimentation does actually serve a purpose. And we see that he's probably the best trainer in the series.
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>>287309976
I think its less mental stability and just tenacity. He seems to maybe be the single most tenacious freak in the setting, and in his workd, thats the most important aspect to martial arts. It was the x factor that let Hongo kill Jenezad.

Also, he might geniunely just be talented at Ki stuff. He invented a third level to Ryusui Seikuken, he manages to use Ki holding against Satomi, hitting and simultaneously healing him, etc.
He actually might be just the one guy that could use Seidou Goitsu.
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>>287310503
After mastering Seidou Goitsu, it seems he also got elevated to being above grandmaster level and on par with freaks like the Hag.
I don't know if the sequel goes there, probably not, but he'd be a really worthy final opponent to Kenichi.
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>>287310355
They get vindicated a lot. Akira Hongo has to deal with Jenezad because Ryouzanpaku et all couldn't simply because Jenezad wouldn't follow their honor code at all (then again, who knows how long the Yami guys do so, given that Carlos implied he'd just stop whe he got bored).
And at the end they just fucking walk off after trying to literally start WW3 because the good guys are so toothless.
The most capable guy on their side when it comes to actually dealing with their enemies is fucking Kenichi, because he manages to interact with his still malleable opponents on a human level and diverts them from the path of the murder hobo. Fuck, the nameless ramen shop owners who took in the Tidat prince were more capable than them.

The single most sensible person in the entire cast ends up being fucking
Saiga, who spent most of the manga not really existing, simply because he doesn't blindly follow some dogmatic code and instead deals with things as they come.
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>>287310604
It's not that Hongou has to deal with Jenezad, it's that he's the one who gets to him (Sakaki is too busted up and they're the two who are there until Saiga shows up). If the Elder had been there not only could he have beaten Jenezad but he likely would have mindwiped him.

And the flip side is that the Killing Fist simply don't have their act together, most of the Nine Fists swap sides along with a very strong member of their armed corps and half of their disciples.
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>>287310604
The series begins with the Ryozanpaku as a group of fighting autists who are forgotten by the rest of society in a financially struggling dojo, and by the end they are still just that, even if they put a halt to WW3 (temporarily).
It's sort of like Batman, the good guy might save the day but he's never going to address the root of the problem. Maybe he doesn't even want to, because it'd interfere with his LARPing.
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>>287300408
My dick appreciates not being hard all the time for Shigure.
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>>287310765
Hongo wanted the fight because he had lost a disciple, and he doesn't want Sakaki to lose his, so he advices Sakaki to keep looking for Kenichi while he takes on Jenazad. Meanwhile, Hongo gets a form of revenge and redemption over a bastard who is infamous for killing his disciples.
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>>287310604
If anything, is kind of explicit that Kenichi is going to follow a similar path to his masters but different at the same time.
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>>287310766
That runs contrary to how they're shown and what the intention for their portrayal is.
They are flawed individuals, some more than others, but the reader is clearly supposed to see them the way Kenichi does- as people worth aspiring to be like, overall. They're supposed to be guardians and parental figures that represent safety. And then there's the very deliberate dualitiy with Yami, the factual big bads of the setting.
Seeing the supposed heroes just unable to actually deal with any real issus messes with people's perception the series since it runs contrary to what their intended portrayal is. Just look at people's general reaction when it was revealed that the big lock is useless. People hated that back in the day, too.

Also, they're REALLY not forgotten, even outside of the martial arts world. Governments all over and especially many criminal entities seem perfectly aware of who and what they are.

Also, just as an aside: Batman does actually combat the root causes in his comics, the watsonian reasons why it doesn't help are myriad and not limited to the area being kinda cursed in some continuities.
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>>287300408
>Kenichi threads done
>weebdex shut down
Bad week
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>>287306898
It's crazy how much older she looked in the earlier chapters. She got deaged when she joined the good guys
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next chapter when
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>>287308942
I love how even his rivals are shocked at the type of training he does
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>>287310884
His average Joe background helps him. Let's face it, most Ryouzanpaku masters are autistic. Shigure and Apachai can barely communicate.
Kensei is probably the closest to being a normal human and he did manage to turn one crazy Yami woman away from her path.
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>>287310954
she sort of started looking older again by the end. there was a point when she looked more like honoka
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>>287311026
>closest to being a normal human
The hyper perverted molester deadbeat dad who ran out on his family because he got tired of being a responsible adult?
Nah man.
The most normal is somehow Akisame, and he's doraemon.
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>>287310954
The art shifted a bit to have everyone look a bit cuter later on, but the moefication hit the girls way harder. They look cuter / younger now still in comparison to the ending of the OG manga, just look at Shigure's pouty cheeks.
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>>287310911
They have good qualities but I don't think they're ever portrayed as flawless.
It was made pretty clear in the beginning for example that the Elder is mostly an "absentee" grandfather to Miu, who often misses out on seeing her grow because of his "trips".
Miu also frequently comments how they were all worse off until Kenichi entered their life.
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>>287311169
>They have good qualities but I don't think they're ever portrayed as flawless.
Literally the very first thing I wrote in my post was that they're flawed individuals.
Like, literally. Do you even read what you reply to?
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>>287311111
Even so, Kensei is the only guy in Ryozanpaku that Kenichi can talk to about regular day-to-day stuff.
Akisame may give great philosophical advice but he's also got an iron-clad set of principles and he's the most emotionally detached of the lot, willing to see Kenichi suffer as long as it enhances his growth.
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>>287310911
Here's the thing though I feel like people overlook how willing they are to deal with threats. For instance during the amusement part volumes people were making fun of them not doing anything about Ogata even though that arc started with them trying to hunt Ogata down.
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>>287310765
Also being real the Life fist requires you to be on the level of your opponent to have any chance of winning. If Sakaki fought first he's dead, because even if Sakaki can land some super non-lethal punch Jenzad would have enough power for a counter attack killing blow, and it's doubtful Sakaki had anything on the level of Hongo's kill move
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>>287311204
Sure but I think you went a little overboard in praising them. For example, they're portrayed as the exact opposite to safety most times and in the earlier parts Kenichi tries to run away from them all the time.
When Kenichi and even his sister's life is at stake, they literally just stand and watch.
The fight autism resides stronger in them than their kindness, even if they are decent people ultimately, who definitely end up showing that more and more as the story goes on.
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>>287310986
5 Apachais left
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>>287311298
I feel like Honoka's hostage situation is a bit of an outlier, in later chapters I feel like they would have saved her then encouraged Kenichi to keep fighting. As it is though they're also fast enough to jump in if the decision to kill her was actually made.

>>287311293
Yeah that's reasonable too. I do think it was silly that they only sent Sakaki though, IMO it should have been him and one other master along with Kenichi (probably Akisame since he's reliable and one of the stronger ones there).
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>>287311360
We are shown that Sakaki felt bad about it and wanted to apologize, which implies that Akisame is probably the most radical of the lot when it comes to that.
Sakaki would've jumped in if Akisame didn't tell him to stand down.
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>>287311254
They are willing to treat the symptoms but not the illness.

Like the less evil 9fists are just not evil because they were never that bad. Like seriously what are any of them doing to stop the Hag aside from the elder maybe finally giving her dick?

Hell what did they plan to do to Senzui if not for Saiga? Dude killed his dad and the woman he loved he would NEVER have agreed to go into big lock (and the Kodachi guy implies none of the weapons would ever agree to it). Like if Big Lock at least worked and actually imprisoned people it would be fine.

But as it stands their philosophy works purely because Hag and 2swords guy don't just decide to go on a random killing spree
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>>287309563
Akisame is literally sculpting Kenichi into a clone of himself like one of his buddha statues.
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>>287310154
But they saved him from getting shipped off to another continent by Loki already...
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>>287311293
Apachai's fight is exactly what happens when two equal Masters with opposing Fists square off. The fight is a "draw", but the Saving Fist master dies and the Killing Fist master just gets KO'd.
In terms of honor and all that it's a draw but one side gets to walk away from it.
Its not enough to be Saving Fist you need to be Saving AND stronger.
Thinking on it more, thats probably why the Kiling Fist masters respect the Big Lock. They didn't just lose, they lost to someone with a handicap effectively. If their opponet had also been Killing Fist then in their mind the fight would have been a curbstomp and they never had a chance of winning in the first place.
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>>287311389
It would be interesting to see how a scenario with an uber strong Demon Fist follower would be dealt with, without resorting to the Hongo solution.
I can see Akisame being willing to cripple someone for life, out of the Ryozanpaku masters (it was implied heavily several times).
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>>287311389
>Like the less evil 9fists are just not evil because they were never that bad.
Even the moderates were willing to try and start WWIII

>Senzui
They don't even know the One Shadow is Senzui for 99% of the manga. They thought it was Saiga and presumably thought they could talk him out of what he was doing.

Honestly I think their policy for the ones who are totally unreasonable like Jenezad is just mindwipe, the Elder beat him before but that was long before he went bonkers.
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>>287311331
how many Gaolangs is that?
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>>287311489
>long before he went bonkers.
Motherfucker that was in like the first fifty chapters of the manga, that was ling AFTER he went bonkers.
Also, thats still ignoring that Mikumo is an evil as fuck bitch that he just lets do whatever. If the solution was really to just mindwipe them, he should have done that to her long ago.
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>>287311476
>thats probably why the Kiling Fist masters respect the Big Lock
Except not that much because Diego said he'd just fuck off once he got tired of it, implying he'd start his murderous bullshit again
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>>287311504
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If Miu was able to recover from mindwipe, it'd probably be no great feat to a master.
Elder obviously goes soft on Hag because of past experiences, meanwhile there's no one else on the side of the good guys who is strong enough to take her out (maybe Saiga?).
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Ken-chan should start thinking like Saiga desu.
Saiga was weirdly based for someone who was only properly introduced like 5/6ths into the manga, had very little screen time and who could have definitely left a bad taste like Senzui. And even though he kills he seems to have more normal and conductive moral thinking than his dad.
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>>287311614
>Aww, I don't wanna deal with the mass murderer cultivator that wanted to start ww3 simply to cause the most carnage possible, we're old friends! and just friends. nothing more.

Our... hero...?
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>>287311639
he doesn't pretend to know all the answers. that's refreshingly honest and grounded compared to all the moral posturing and chuuni stuff everyone else is doing (not that i hate it, it's part of what makes the manga fun).
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>>287311556
I thought the fight they were referring to was long in the past?
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>>287311702
He's also fine with his 17 year old daughter having a relationship and isn't weird about it like his dad (her grand dad). Now that's a proper coolest guy.
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>>287311639
I view him as basically a less wishy-washy salaryman. Salaryman couldn't make up his mind if he wanted to be killing or saving even in his final fight vs Ogata, according to Ogata.
Saiga set on Killing Fist but only if I feel like it, vaguely like Hongo. I guess the moral is you need to pick kill or save before you enter a fight or you'll do neither?
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>>287311639
The only reason Senzui left a bad taste is because his character was crammed into 2 volumes at the end of the manga. Conceptually there's nothing wrong with Senzui.
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>>287311734
The last fight they had was one of the times Hayato left and came back early in the manga and said he had a tough fight or something. I think its somehwere during the ragnarok arc, maybe around the time they went to his own Little Saint James.
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>>287311774
Ah fair enough. I had assumed that they had fought a while before, though Jenezad is similar to the Hag and Two Sword guy in that I'd say that the Elder might not be able to easily capture him
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>>287309107
His fathers genes nerfed Kenichi's secret bloodline powers and Honoka's boobs. But he is rich, caring and a great family man so I can't blame Kenichi's mother.
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>>287311912
I keep forgetting that Kenichi's a privileged kid from a well to do family.
He deserved all the beatings.
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>>287311677
she is the bucky to elder's captain america
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>>287311854
Elder couldn't even capture Steven Seagal, he's far from infallible.
He's probably the character that is most nerfed by being Saving Fist. Imagine trying to avoid killing people while being as absurdly powerful as he is.
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>>287302858
I still think that, while incredibly hot, those jeans ripped exactly at the pelvic area must feel unbelievably unconfortable for Kisara, a source of endless chafing and slipping
And that why my man Ukita will simply take them off
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>>287312134
On the subject of Ukita, do you guys think he'll actually return in the sequel? He's in college now and has continued on his path of normiedom. I guess he might have a chance, but his "harem" basically resolved itself in the end, too. At most I just see him as appearing as a hanger on to Kisara
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>>287312131
He's so powerful he had to develop new techniques like his 0.0028% power "release" or whatever it was during the tournament arc.
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>>287312131
Steven Seagal might actally be one of the 5 strongest people alive (that we know of) given his showings.
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new chapter doko
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>>287312221
He is 2nd strongest weapon jobber (behind notMusashi).
He's definitely up there. Dude managed to befuddle the Elder twice
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>>287300408
>No....I was having so much fun....
The manga got really retarded. Do people really have fond memories of this or something?
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>>287312284
I'd say it's
Elder > Oganosuke > Saiga >= Mikumo > Seagal
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>>287312335
Ogata with Seidou Gōitsu seemed to be up there as well
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>>287312247
It's rare for Kenichi to hate anybody personally but it seems the two troll ninjas accomplished that in just 4 chapters.
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>>287312443
thanks for the (You), but I was asking where the new chapter was
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>>287312491
https://www.sunday-webry.com/episode/12207421983580977939
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>>287312506
thanks, I keep forgetting about webry
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It must have been an anime only scene;
Where Miu and Kenichi are hanging out and she says she's training her eyes by reading the ads on the inside of a passing train
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>>287312443
>Murder a sickly father, his daughter seeking revenge, her unborn child, and husband seeking revenge, on top of many grooming related crimes and deaths and WW3
>"Wow, I cant hate this guy."
>pretend to be weak and that everyone is bullying you
>"I'm about to go Killing Fist on these two."
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>>287312614
he was the coolest guy...
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>>287312026
Is she supposed to be a nazi? Cause I’m not sure if that’s a Japanese uniform
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>>287312689
It's not an anyone uniform. It's just something the author made up.
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>>287312614
Kenichi finds Ogata perplexing since not only was their first interaction Ogata helping him out with no ulterior motive but Ogata keeps pretty strictly to his rule which is not that different from Hongou's.
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>>287312689
the quality is a little low but she appears to have an iron cross and an eagle on her cap so yeah she was probably a nazi
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>>287312614
Ogata might have two sides but they're both authentic
Ninjas are liars and fakes
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>>287312760
or alternatively she's knocking down a nazi but also has an iron cross for whatever reason.
maybe she was just bashing people on all sides.
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>>287312768
Kenichi values honesty to an unhealthy degree I suppose.
the ninja girl also tried to poison Miu which is always an easy way to tick Kenichi off
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Zombie when?
I want to see the dealt between Granpa vs Zombie
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>>287312756
Except for the whole unprovoked attack on a saving fist dojo to obtain their techniques which lead to teo people seeking revenge and starting WW3. If Ogata actually was committed to his principles he should have been against WW3 from the very start and stopping senseless civilian slaughter like Hongo since they never consented to being nuked. He should have flipped sides against the weapon masters as well around the same moment Hongo did.
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>>287312912
And even if you want to majorly stretch and say a country declaring war(after you invade them) means the civil war, theres still a lot of fetuses in those city centers that didn't consent either.
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>>287312995
>means the civil war
Means she civilians consent to war/being murdered
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is miu japanese?
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>>287312995
Ogata extends the courtesy to fetuses, but does he believe children can consent?
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>>287313041
maybe not fully because half of her lineage comes from a weird clan of eugenist ninjas
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>>287313068
I mean he started grooming Tanimoto around 12 or so before passing him onto Kensei for whatever reason, so who knows what the lower limit for him is. He's probably psychotic enough to take a 2 year old saying "yes" as good enough. Considering he wants an emotionless subject for his next cycle of dou-sei ki testing after the Rimi results, that might exactly what he does. Find the youngest child he can that can still verbalize "yes" and go to town turning them into an emotionless unfeeling killing machine.
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>>287313166
in the end he's still able to live with killing the fetus, the advancement of martial arts is apparently more important.
maybe that's how he justified the whole ww3 thing. it's bad, but it'll help him advance martial arts further, and he'll just carve some buddhist statues in penance to make up for it.
it sounds harsh but that's just how the cookie crumbles sometimes
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>>287312805
Anon whose side was Japan on in the big war?
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>>287311768
The thing is that, while it was swept under the rug when Hongo was acting with the heroes, he's introduced as someone who will kill anyone who properly challenges him, it's even said that he wouldn't have hold back against Miu when she attacked him in rage.
Saiga will only kill if the situation leaves him no other choice, which is the most reasonable stance anyone could have. Why does it have to be absolutely never kill, or kill everyone?
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>>287313366
Shigure loves to tease Kenichi like this because he recognizes her womanhood and it makes her feel good about herself (except when he refuses to take lessons from her).
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>>287312026
Elder looks like All Might here.
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>>287313433
The thing about fightfags is they don't really care who they fight for. Just look up a dude like Otto Skorzeny.
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>>287313326
Ngl I love this page it's so fucking raw.
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>>287313344
Is this before or after Miu started seeing Kenichi as a proper love interest?
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>>287313571
Anon, she was obviously into Kenichi since the first arc. Again, the only reason they aren't officially a couple is because of the Elder blocking it.
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>>287313484
Wasnt that Senzui disguised as Saiga that Miu attacked?
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>>287313484
I think that was Sakaki's assumption because of the path Hongo had chosen. But Hongo told Shigure he'd never fight a woman (which made Shigure blush).
By the end it seemed like Sakaki realized his ex-friend was still a decent guy despite being Yami.
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>>287313670
I'd say it took her at least a little bit
There was that length of time where she was describing him as more of a little brother or a dog
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>>287313737
Then again I guess that's contradicted by him bodying the female knight afterwards.
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>>287313670
No she wasn't. She saw him as a helpless little brother to care for at first. She didn't start seeing him in a romantic light until at least Renka entered the picture and was taking his attention away
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>>287313670
Miu and Kenichi actually do have three stages to their relationship, the first is when Miu likes him but is a bit condescending, the second is post Ragnarok where beating Odin has made her realise that he actually is really dedicated, and the third is post that night where they basically confess on the roof where they're basically a couple and are just waiting for him to get strong enough that the Elder approves.
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>>287313818
The Elder is obviously pulling for them as well. I have a feeling that he'll figure out some kind of copout way for Kenichi to "surpass" him.
Like taking care of an enemy the Elder couldn't deal with or something.
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Where's the new chapter? Not even a raw dump?
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>>287312015
Dunno about japan, he seem to be middle class, like doraemon
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>>287313818
4 stages, the Sho fight and tournament was a major development for them. That's when she acknowledged that she knows Kenichi is in love with her (Kenichi didn't hear her say this of course) and saw him as an actual peer in strength
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Miu was actually real cheeky and fun in the Ragnarok arc, and it slowly went away the closer she got to Kenichi. But it did come back at moments like her going blah blah blah to the ninja girls. The sequel seems to have brought back the fun part of her personality, and the cockiness (her inner thoughts have her looking down on anyone her age in skill)
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>>287312506
>They try to kidnap Miu
Sanctuary arc soon...
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>>287312506
Kenichi is making Miu look like a rookie here is he seriously this skilled now or is Miu off her game? I know he's an expert but man
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>>287314161
Kenichi is sensing them with his fake nigga detection software instead of the usual martial arts sense everyone else has.
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>>287314161
I think is time for elder to train her seriously for once.
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>>287312506
Where the hell did Shigure go? She was with Kenichi when they entered then she just vanished when the fighting started
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>>287313893
Do you want a raw dump?
>>287314161
Miu is more vulnerable to their deception whereas Kenichi is usually really good at reading people
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>>287314383
I want to drop a raw load into Flare
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>>287314161
Miu's always been susceptible to acting like a goody two shoes
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>>287314366
Probably holding off an army of ninjas supporting the two main ones from the shadows
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>>287314161
Miu hasn't activated her Dou Ki once so its probably her falling for the please dont bully us act while Kenichi sees right through it and isn't holding back at all.
Semi speaking of, is it just assumed every fight has seikuken going on even if character do not specifically state it and auras drawn at this point?
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>>287315165
No, because Kenichi needs to scream Seikuken activate and then either make the field or have his body glow depending on which version. Manga has been pretty consistent on it.
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>>287315165
They were trying to spin some kind of a sob story to sell to Miu about their ninja clan and how it's been in shambles after Senzui's death.
Kenichi told her it's bullshit which is what set off the ninja dude.
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>>287315617
I mean its probably not wrong considering the terrorist clan won and probably took over because letting the blood thrisy homocidal rebels clearly was the better option that resulted in less loss of life according to some retard that couldn't be bothered to slaughter three old men that were behind the whole thing instead.
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>>287300408
Give me the link to the last story time and I'll agree with you.
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>>287314161
women....are weak!
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>>287315783
i'm guessing these two ninjas are on the side of the three old bastards. they might just want to dispose of Miu or use her as a puppet
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>>287314485
>Flare
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>>287316197
We've seen plenty of "good" people seeking revenge. I bet they are from Miu's clan but they just want to use her to start the war again.
Effectively they found the princess of a royal line thought dead and want to use her as a figurehead to gather supporters and launch a rebellion against the rebellion that I assume took over. We didn't get many details but I assume the murder clan didn't shake hands and invite the other one out from drinks after they "won".
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>>287316197
Based on the flashback of the last arc, they are either part of the Kuremisago that ran away or the elders.
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>>287316187
Looks like classic Miu right here, he's getting used to drawing them again
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>>287316906
You can't even pretend she is wearing underwear on that pic
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Is the manga still worth reading now that the daily is over and there’s no community aspect.
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>>287309332
I know what you're referring too, but I still can't help but think of Dark Nodoka.
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Nijima vs Honoka, who wins?
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I thought Elder could kick yujiro hanma ass. But it's seem both have similar feats.

it's that true?
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>>287316187
Ey the nipples are back on the online version
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>>287312506
Damn schizo ninja bastard.
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>>287316187
We NEED the reverse NTR arc. I think a certain lady with glasses should rape Kenichi in front of her!
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>>287318038
they do not have similar feats at all. The only thing that makes this any sort of conversation is Yujiro """""stopping the earthquake""""" which would be a hilarious outlier even if that was what actually happened.
Outside of that, The Elder does so much insane shit that he could solo all of Baki easily. Elder's the guy who Baki's narrator pretends (You)jiro is.
Fuck man, most grandmasters would either beat Yujiro's ass or have a somewhat even fight with him.
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>>287314956
She's never living that down.
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>>287317612
I first read it without seeing what others thought and liked it so yes. You can take your time and check the archives if you're interested in how other anons reacted to stuff.
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>>287318038
The masters are in a different level, in the Kenichi universe they are essentially super heroes/villains.
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>>287318441
I was so focused on the punching I didn't even notice he was apparently tearing cables and pipes out with his teeth too mid assault
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>>287300408
Really good threads. It was fun.
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>>287317612
probably better than most of the current stuff
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>>287316906
Yep, that's the classic "Miu's ass in your face" style. Elegant.
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>>287316187
That's a real heroines butt that inspires hope and the will to train.
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>>287319545
Don't forget she's abusive. She kicks Kenichi's ass anytime he touches another woman
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>>287319663
Rightfully so. She didn't spend all that time grooming him to be her himbo husband to let other whores reap the benefits
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Impressive how Kenichi,even with his no hit women mentality, is better than most shounen protags nowadays. People were really saying that Shou was a better "protag" than him
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>>287319663
somehow still less abusive than renka or kisara
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>>287319684
And that's why Kenichi belong to Shigure.
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>>287319663
If you get beat up by a women you deserve it. She did the right thing by giving him the kick in the ass he needed sometimes.
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>>287319935
Shigure has been treated as a genderless weapon autist all her youth, that's why she wants to be the most caring and feminine wife to her husband.
You have to forgive her for some of her deficiencies.
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>>287320037
She is a widow
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>>287319809
He might not hit them (unless they're his wife), but no one said anything about tossing them
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>>287320149
may he rest in peace
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>>287319809
I think it started bothering me less when you got to the Spark fight where he shows he's fine using non-striking moves on them.
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>>287320378
It's ok to strike them too if it's Miu
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>>287309332
That reminds me. Negima storytime when?

I should reread it at some point, I used to love that series as a young teen. Just like I loved Kenichi. It's got tons of hype moments and fun characters.
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>>287318441
I did the math during DoD.
IIRC elder at 100% can punch with 75Tons of force
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>>287320511
Per square inch or do you mean total energy?
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>>287310987
That underground cave training was some insane shit
>We've been keeping him in hellish underground training with no light for days on end, calling him to get some rest and eat some food imitating his friends and family members' voices and hit him when he tries to move into the direction of the voices. No one came come it to help him, because he himself wouldn't trust the proposal and would attack you.
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>>287320504
Anon, he's already done two Negima Storytimes before.
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>>287320975
Oops, my bad then.
Sad I missed them, would've been fun.
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>>287320932
…not that time you literally died against Koukin?
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>>287321081
Should've sent only the girl on this mission instead of autist dude
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>>287321143
(I thought the same thing hahaha, I think Kenichi has forgotten that on purpose to avoid getting reminded of Niijima doing mouth to mouth)
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>>287321143
I mean to be fair he ACTUALLY died, not got the CLOSEST to dying.
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>>287302337
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>>287321251
>sparks of Dou Ki the moment Kenichi starts taking damage
Miu has had it with people manhandling her boy
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>>287321283
I wonder if the author based these two one someone he knows because holy shit they are so easy to hate.
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>>287320884
>Crawls on the floor to avoid the smoke
As expected of Maou-Sama.
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>>287321310
Song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ywmY4IzMRU&list=RD4ywmY4IzMRU&start_radio=1
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>>287321296
During storytime I realized that the original series didn't really have many rat bastards in it outside of Loki and the rasta weapon jobber.
Pretty much everyone obeyed some type of code of honor, even if they were a piece of crap.
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>>287321230
It's actually quite funny that these guys are using old school Sumo. I wish I could be here for Thor's fury at Sumo techniques being used by skinny people.

>>287321296
Yeah they've been around for like 2 chapters and are already super obnoxious.
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>>287321371
and the scythe nigger, and the hag
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>>287321371
Jenezad didn't have a code of honour either, and I'd argue Jihan didn't (though he died well, until he was revealed to have survived)
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>>287321045
I want to make all ninjas cry for real.
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>>287321371
They are so obviously assholes that I wonder if there´s a 4D plan behind it, like if they are ninjas they are not particularly doing well hiding neither their intentions nor identities(even if it works awfully well on their target Miu)
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>>287321371
Good point actually. I still hate Loki and by virtue hold a grudge agaist Akisame and Sakaki for letting any of that bullshit happen in the first place. Ratbastards have their place I guess but it's just emotionally taxing if they are front and center for too long.
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>>287321421
Neither of those two bothered me and I can't explain why. Like I guess the scythe dude is such a flat good old fashion murderer it's hard to take anything he does seriously? Hag also was a schemer but not in an in your face obnoxious way?
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>>287321102
I think that was supposed to be "Fool" singular because she's annoyed at her partner blowing the secret that they have orders to kill Kenichi on sight
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>>287321408
Hag sorta had some honor as she wouldn't touch others' disciples or something like that.
Scythe guy was pure scum though, good call.
>>287321421
Jihan was 90% rat but he did take his L like a man
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>>287321508
Also I still have no idea how Jihan somehow became another coolest guy to Kenichi but I guess the story just demanded it.
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>>287321462
Considering two "kids" were sent after Miu I suspect thate ither that side of the clan's overall ninja quality has just declined massively, or these two are acting independently after listening to the older generation bitching and even if they brought Miu back they'd get slapped around by their elders for doing something unnecessary.
The confusing thing about all this though is >>287321081 and >>287320840

It's Miu's side of the clan, the side of the clan that SUPPORTED her getting married to a super powerful outsider. Why are there standing orders to kill Kenichi? It would be easy to say they're not from Miu's side, but then they're also trying to hide her identity from the world. Maybe they are from Miu's side of the clan but being manipulated by the rebel side that killed Miu's mother? I could see this being a ploy to have the "good" side do all the work of bringing Miu in for the "bad" side so she can be executed.
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>>287321363
Thanks for the dump.
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>>287321473
I think it's supposed to be something like "You fool..." so yeah. Ninja dude is just a retard.
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>>287321605
I mean they've literally been lying non-stop it's not unreasonable to think they're not actually from Miu's side of the clan. Either that or the clan recognises that Kenichi is a temptation for Miu to not live with them and so want to kill him to sever her ties to the outside world.
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murder hobos are one thing, but liars? This is a step too far
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>>287321102
>>287321130
The ninja cries out in pain as he strikes you.
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>>287321726
Has Kenichi fought a pure murder hobo? Like people were saying previously there aren't a ton in HSDK. Closest probably Jihan.
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>>287321209
>>287321230
Ancient sumo bros, this time we'll win for sure.
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>>287321310
>>287321363
Thanks for the dump anon and thanks for the translation Koi GODS.
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>>287321102
She's pretty hot. I want her to bully me.
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>>287320770
What site did you get this from?
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>>287321130
shigure is watching with disappointment.
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>>287320951
>Miu blushing at Kenichi being better than her
Power is everything
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>>287321920
not in a formal 1v1 duel from what i remember but the big guy he and miu fought in tidat was for sure a pure murder hobo. not really a sentient one though.
rasta asshole was probably the biggest piece of crap he clashed with. also he should be 100% dead, so much for katsujinken.
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>>287322323
>Apachai is too retarded to notice he's actually a satsujinen
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>>287300408
Unarmed Yami are bitches, Armed Division carried hard and did most of the work. Plus the unarmed guys are retarded. Who starts a war. A WAR, then gets concerned that innocents might be killed or that the fights that’ll take place will be unhonourable?
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>>287322378
he saves them from living
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>>287321193
Kenichi was real impressive this issue. I thought he'd be nerfed for a bit but he's just as strong and capable as he was at the end of the original
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>>287321251
Elder still hasn't trained her to properly control her Dou ki?
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>>287322297
You wouldn't understamd even if I explained it to you.
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Oh is it over already? I was enjoying all the butts when I scrolled by.
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>>287322495
The Storytime is over, but there's a weekly sequel now.
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>>287322407
>the fights that’ll take place will be unhonourable
That's martial autists for you.
It was stated that Armed Division function more like warriors/mercenaries and don't really have those sorts of principles about combat.
That's why they also don't fight each other at the drop of a hat.
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>>287321193
This is actually a lot funnier in the Japanese with Miu using the crude おのれ but ending the sentence with the polite particle ですね
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>>287321605
The fact that they had to put on this big production to find Miu when she isn't even hiding herself all that much tells me these guys are not that experienced with the outside world.
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>>287321045
Kenichi stacked that WIS up the roof over the course of the first manga.
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>>287320626
“Send 75T object flying”
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>>287322761
Yami/Yomi never attacked the dojo directly, right? Only jobber sign challengers ever found it. Probably a Ki barrier or something that hides them from stronger people or something.
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>>287322313
I'd wager a guess that she's off to fight some ninja master.
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>>287321193
Excellent job from Kenichi, Miu needs to step up.
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>>287321283
Calling out the bitches like they are.
>>287321363
Thanks for the dump.
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>>287322822
Bruh what? Boris attacked the dojo and Ogata used to be a disciple there. Senzui used to be the One Shadow, you're telling me that since he's not there Kuremisago couldn't even buy such simple info from them?

Moreover, Ryozanpaku is in the phone book.
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>>287321171
>>287321193
Kenichi was NOT having another nopan NTR Miu arc
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>>287322825
I have a personal theory that Matsuena wants both Shigure and Miu to star in an arc and this is feeding into that.
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>>287322925
I forgot about Boris, but my point is they're really not hard to find but (for the most part) no one seems to know where or cares enough to find the place/attack it other than the weekly challenger(free income).
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>>287321469
>Neither of those two bothered me and I can't explain why
Because they're honest about it. Scythe dude is just plain old murderhobo and the hag is your standard chink cultivator looking at people in the lower realm.
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>>287320770
>watch your back
Her butt is vulnerable to attacks right now.
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>>287322297
Lel
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>>287322297
Ogata is clear on his motivations.
kenichi is not about kill is le bad.
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>>287312912
>unprovoked attack
You don't know that. Literally the only part of their fight that we saw was Ogata standing over his body. For all you know, that master was dying of an illness and wanted to go out fighting instead just like Sakaki's friend.
>saving fist dojo
Ogata constantly says that he doesn't want to kill someone that doesn't attack him with killing intent. It's VERY likely that the guy wasn't saving fist. Why would you think he was? Because he's friends with Elder? So were Mikumo and Jenazad!
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>>287321027
Fuuuuuuuuck off

>>287321193
I think it's cool how consistent Kenichi stat buffs are when it comes to protecting Miu

>>287321363
Thanks for the dump

>>287320975
>>287321072
In my mind the last one was two years ago but I know that isn't correct anymore
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>>287323521
He knows Niijima has fully brainwashed him (into being a rational pragmatic person)
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>>287320770
KOI dudes please put Kenichi 2 on mangadex since weebdex is kill.
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You know what, its nice to go back and speculate about a series like this after having to hold in spoilers everytime in the storytime.
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>>287321726
Martial artists aim to temper themselves towards the image of perfection in their mind, and perfection does not lie.
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Is there a way to find thegood raws, because the quality difference is way to good
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Now that I think of it, how is wresting a killing fist?
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>>287323693
After they beat you they tie you to a plinth and cut your goddamn heart out is how.
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>>287322925
Attacking Ryouzanpaku is a suicide mission, they wanted to lure Miu out and then talk to her alone. Kenichi being there was not part of the plan and they didn't even know what he looked like.
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>>287322825
Sometimes I think about how tough Shigure's nipples must be to be perfectly fine rubbing chainmail, especially in combat. My nipples chafe like a bitch if I just wear a too tight tshirt with a print on it.
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>>287323686
There's a .torrent on nya,
>Manga-Zip.info_Shijou Saikyou Kenichi vol 01-61
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Renka and Miu never fought, even as a gag?
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>>287322925
TBF Boris also didn't know what Dojo it was lol because he had orders not to attack it and couldn't read the sign because it was in Kanji.
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Is Yomi good or still in the killing fist?
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>>287321027
How many times have that ninja clan fallen into civil war? Maybe there are reasons that people want to rebel against a bunch of old dinosaurs dictate how they live.
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Rachael was more fun than I remember
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>>287322966
Its not like they can go oand challenge them to hand over Miu, its still Ryuzanpaku after all, still meeting her on the road should´ve been enough. Maybe they thought any action on her usual routes could risk being found out by the masters(mainly Elder) and just wanted to lure her out
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>>287323693
In Mexico everyone is Killing fist, even the pro wrestlers.
Rachel also has no sympathy for scumbags due to her dad. Having to spare the life of a guy like that would piss her off.
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>>287323693
If we're being honest, getting suplexed is way more likely to kill you than any punch or kick.
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>>287320951
Miu the surpassed
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>>287323686
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So, objectively, how strong was Shou?
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>>287323791
I don't really recall any of them changing their mind about killing, except Chikage and Tanimoto maybe.
Most likely they just became less enthusiastic about killing unless the person deserves it (like Hongo was).
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anyone know where this is from?
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>>287323905
he was the strongest and most talented disciple at the time but that doesn't mean much. He could have beaten everybody from Mui to below if he just kept his head straight
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>>287323866
He's a bullied kid who now wields a fist of justice
Kenichi is made for sniffing these dorks out

I do like that Kenichi is edging Miu outon some of the not explicitly fighting parts if martial arts, observation and maybe ki manipulation to cite specifics
Would like to see a serious spar between Kenichi and Miu now, like the one he had with Takeda
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>>287323950
the tag team battle on the ship (vol36)
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>>287323693
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Was Kenichi Plus dumped?
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>>287321000
>>287321102
>>287321130
Reminder that kenichi officially is an “expert” now so all his new opponent will also be an step up. He will no longer match “Disciple” class
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>>287323693
Wrestling amove done for real (no soft falls or padded mat) will fucking wreck you
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>>287321283
Not a single panty revealed in the fight.
Kenichi went woke.... anons.
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>>287324019
It's funny how overpowered Chikage was throughout the manga. Her only weakness was being a mental midget.
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>>287324046
I don't so.
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>>287324088
Only a peek
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>>287310139
Don't discredit Ma's suspicious traditional Chinese medicine concoctions that can apparently revive the dead.
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>>287324140
the literal first page of the manga mind you. just be patient anon.
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>>287324090
Sex with Mikumo
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>>287323905
Insanely strong for a disciple and Kenichi just happened to be an absurd hard counter to him. Shou is one of the fastest disciples in the series and has extremely lethal moves on top of that and he can use Roar-as-One and he doesn't suffer the drawbacks nearly as much, Ogata flat out says Shou used it like you're supposed to. At the very least he is a top 3 disciple in Yomi along with Najima (clearly n1) with the last spot going to either Chikage or Koukin.
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>>287324174
I was joking anon.
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>>287312506
Wtf there's a new sequel series?
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>>287323905
Weaker than Kajima and Koukin
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>>287324261
Just been seeing those types of posts pop up here and there. Matsuena is not gonna starve us of the good stuff for too long.
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>>287324223
By me
https://litter.catbox.moe/aqhsh0f8nrdnhc5w.jpg
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>>287324168
True, they wouldn't have much use for Kenichi if he was a corpse. Kensei also taught him the ever important boob grab
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think they will get a proper intro?
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>>287324223
>Sex with Mikumo
i don't know if it was intended or not but she was always made to look like she could really use it
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>>287321251
I'm starting to get real fucking sick of Glasses "bullied kid" bullshit act.
The Shinobi cries out in pain as he strikes you
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>>287324598
We know, Kenichi
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>>287324521
Cow ninja is shown to live in fear of Miu and having PTSD episodes after the beating she took
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>>287324585
I don't care if it's intentional or not. I really want sex with Mikumo.
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>>287324750
Chikage is doing the dumb gay zoomer meme
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>>287324750
ok why are you posting chikage though?
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>>287325009
She's cute I guess
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>>287325110
she's fat
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>>287321143
He literally died there so...
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>>287325155
not as fat as the brown loli
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>>287321171
>You've got it wrong
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>>287321193
If anything Miu was nerfed
Dumb Miu
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>>287325009
She care about her protege?
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>>287321283
Based Kenichi calling them out
Go Kenichi, go!
I personally despise people like this in every work
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>>287309107
well one of kenichi's kick has a shotgun blast effect for sure.
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>>287324034
Just two left
>>287323744
>>287323791
Renka has no role anymore since she stopped chasing Kenichi
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>>287325379
in a sense yeah. she's old as fuck and chikage's probably her last disciple to pass her techniques onto.
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>>287325009
Defeat the disciple to challenge the master?
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>>287325526
They could escape to china from the kuromisago.
And Miu would seethe twice if pinkhair girl is also there.
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>>287323791
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I love that Kenichi and Miu are each other's berserk buttons. Hurt one and the other is ready to snap. Kenichi does it often but people overlook Miu is just as protective of Kenichi as he is of her.
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>>287323744
Nope, so I wonder if Renka is stronger than Kenichi still. She curbstomped Rachel here when she stopped messing around, and in the fight against the two Masters, her team won rather easily compared to Odin's team.
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>>287323866
>>287323997
It's making me doubt if Miu could've won against Satomi.
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>>287303932
It would have been super easy to implement her though
>Option A: Have her join Team Ryozanpaku
>She participates in the fight against the Chinese team but gets injured by Sho when he tries to kidnap Miu, leading to her sitting out in the fight against Elder
>Option B: She enters separately with her bodyguards, replacing the other Chinese team
>The fight and lose to the Stanley Siblings, setting up her rivalry with Rachel
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>>287325526
>Renka has no role anymore since she stopped chasing Kenichi
Shes still holding out hope even if she has 0 chance her and Shigure
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Spoiler for latest manga chapter

It seems like the newest chapter revealed that the Kuremisago Ninjutsu style has roots on a martial art mentioned on the second oldest record of Japanese history, the Nihon Shoki (日本書紀) written in the VII century AD. It's called Sumai and it's the precursor of Sumo. I also just found out that by Grand Sumo, Itagaki, writer of Baki, probably meant Sumai, as, according to Akisame, there's a written record in the Nihon Shoki of two fighters named Kehaya and Sukune fighting before the emperor of Japan at that age.
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>>287326176
English scans are out
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>>287326199
Ah, I didn't notice someone had dumped the chapter in the thread
I just read it raw
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>>287326176
From the sound of it, this early iteration of "sumo" was something more applicable to a battlefield, where the intention was to wrestle down the opponent and then incapacitate them with various methods. Even killing was permitted in a formal duel (which were generally used to settle disputes).
Once it evolved into a "sport", most of the techniques were prohibited.
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>>287321130
>>287321148
>"ninja arts"
Looks more like Krav Maga to me with how theyre using dirty tactics to oneup both Kenichi and Miu
>>287321193
Thank fuck its not another "Miu gets kidnapped" arc though theres probably still a chance it happens next chapter
>>287321283
Our boy better drop the mercy and go all out, these 2 deserve to at least get beaten tf up badly, also im worried about Shigure, Im guessing something must have happened to her or shes tied up with like a ninja master for her not to be around
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>>287324269
Anon we spent two months hyping it up
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I read a manga that said that the god of Sumo actually was a guy who wear a mech suit and decapitate the other guy's head with a kick
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>>287326176
I admire the enthusiasm anon.
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>>287326353
>or shes tied up
We can only hope
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>>287326353
i'm hoping Miu will go settle it out of her own free will instead of being kidnapped. with kenichi and co. around to kick ninja ass.
involve some old faces like saiga and satomi, and it should have the makings of a fine first arc for the sequel
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>>287321148
Very cool kick. Grabbing the hands and kicking sounds like a fun martial art.
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>>287326436
Yeah I heard there was a sequel but I didn't think it would be this fast. Thought it would still be in the distant future.
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>>287326534
We can only hope it doesnt devolve into yet another Miu kidnapping arc from some ninja master Kenichi has to beat up.
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>>287326534
I'm assuming this is a guy/girl pair of starter villains specifically so Kenichi/Miu can each take down one.
Then they'lll have to go to the village for plot reasons and fights happen.
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>>287326624
I have hope since the Elder was confident that Miu can handle it (with the support of Kenichi).
It'd be a letdown if she's just going to be a damsel in distress for what's probably her most important personal arc.
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>>287326534
Was Satomi actually part of the Kuremisago? His own dialogue made it seem like he wasn't - or even if, then it was some meaningless and disrespected shitty sidebranch.
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>>287323693
Ask Perro Aguayo Jr. You'll need a Ouija board.
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D of D? Awesome
Shinpaku Alliance Winning over the other Team because of Ukita hurting the other guy's finger was pure kinography
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>>287326654
Then Miu gets poisoned, and Kenichi and his friends have to fight the 12 ninja masters to save her.
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>>287325594
>Scissorhand's stardew valley farm
:'(
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>>287326481
Tanimoto, Renka and Sieg would probably do the best. They're all pretty strong and either have enough experience (Renka) or are smart enough (Tanimoto, Sieg) to not fall for ninja bullshit.
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>>287326750
>His own dialogue made it seem like he wasn't - or even if, then it was some meaningless and disrespected shitty sidebranch.
I'm not sure which either.
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>>287326481
Sieg Heil knows spinjitzu.
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>>287326857
Senzui seemed to hold him in high regard. He was just born sickly and weak so no one thought he'd amount to anything.
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>>287327010
I like to think this was when Takeda started pivoting away from Miu
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>>287326814
For the sequel, I request Shigure beating down the hag to avenge the farmer and thus becoming recognized as the strongest female master in the world.
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>>287326863
JUMP UP KICK BACK WHIP AROUND AND SPIN
AND THEN WE JUMP UP AND DO IT AGAIN
NINJA (GO!)
NINJA (GO!)
COME ON COME ON
WE'RE GONNA DO IT AGAIN
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>>287326757
All thanks to our dearest Maou
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>>287321604
Jihan gave up on the whole YOMI thing and did kinda defuse the shitshow with the Tidat soldiers without any further violence so I imagine Kenichi just let bygones be bygones
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>>287327213
I think her breasts went back to being a bit bigger around the finals chapters of the manga
Was it the result of her breast training and diet? Will she be a cow udder in the sequel?
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>>287300408
Kenichi stands out among all the 2000s horny martial arts anime.
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>>287324521
I do hope they come back. I think there's a trope-y but probably somewhat compelling story of how these haughty eugenics ninjas came to be the servants? friends? lovers? of the weak, sickly loser.
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Even tho Berserker was a fucking fraud, Tanimoto beating him was bullshit.
In fact, I hate the Tanimoto wankery
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>>287327242
She's training harder than anyone to reach her goal
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>>287326534
Bro you literally died against the Muy Thai guy
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>>287327693
What's bullshit is Berserker getting top billing with Odin and Hermit like he actually matters. Shaggy was a more important rival than him. Koga the Kicker was a more important rival than him. Fucking Naoki was a more important rival than him
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>>287327794
Would that really work? Doing chest excercises while eating to remain in calorie surplus?
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>>287327932
you would literally get a bigger, most muscly chest but that's not the same as boobs
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>>287327693
there's no Tanimoto wankery, he had a pretty normal power progression, nothing absurd.
>unfinished match with Kenichi on top of the bus
>went away to train himself
>lost to pre-Seikuken Kenichi which is embarrassing
>trained more by himself
>barely beat Berserker who has no martial art, just unga bunga
>tracked down his master
>learned an ult from master
>joined forced with his peers to gang up against the weakest guy in master level
>trained more under his master's guidance
>beat up a Yomi member (it wasn't an easy match)
>didn't fight anyone until the last arc
>joined Odin and Berserker for 3vs1 against a master
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>>287327814
Maybe dying still gives him memory gaps, like when Apachai accidentally killed him back near the start.
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>>287321045
The Maou's influence...is strong
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>>287323162
Lying is a lesser sin than outright slaughter unless you have terminal Fight Pervert (or shonentard) brain.

>inb4 "where do you think we are"
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>>287327932
She should seek out the Hag to discover the secret of increasing breast size by 2-3x
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>>287326755
That's a good one. Fuck you, but that's a good one.
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>>287322297
when does kensei goes around playing victim to earn sympathy and backstab?
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>>287327872
Can you imagine koga coming back in the sequel as a serious character though
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Where do I go to read the latest chapter?
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>>287328491
Scroll up.
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>>287328345
There's an epidemic of ninjas with dumptruck asses
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>>287328514
It greatly benefits their mission and is another weapon for them to use.
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>>287328514
Shigure's is naturally occurring, the Kuremisago eugenics ninjas have cultivated them thru hundreds of years of selective breeding, likely including some inbreeding, but haven't quite reached the level that Shigure has.
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>>287328692
I think thats the biggest Renka ever got, no?
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>>287328514
How should it be handled as a society.
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>>287328113
Killing someone ready to be murdered back is fine just as lying to a liar would be fine.
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>>287320951
Seichads putting douchimps in their place as usual.
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>>287328113
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidy
Killing enemies in War is ok
Killing enemies after pretending you are disarmed/wearing civilian clothes/wearing the Red Cross is not.
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>>287328682
Archery is the key to developing a huge ass
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>>287327693
Not really, Tanimoto doesn't do anything really absurd there he just keeps up. Tanimoto was always a strong member of Ragnarok because he's the least reliant on gimmicks.

>>287327872
This I agree with, I think the author probably stuck him there as a reference to the prototype but it should have been Tanimoto, Odin and Koukin.
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>>287326032
Option B is actually really cool, I like that.
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>>287326750
I don't think he was descended from them like Shou was, I think he was just someone who was taught their techniques. Though he fights pretty differently to this guy, this guy isn't using his Ruthless Severance ability or his hand seals.
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>>287326757
Even though it wasn't a high stakes fight it's one of the best in the series. Niijima having to make use of minimal resources, Sieg showing up and then passing out, Ukita has multiple excellent moments, Kisara gets a big upgrade and a big moment - those four characters have all been around since the beginning and it's pretty unquestionably their best moments in the manga for each of them, maybe with the exception of the Freya win for Kisara instead.
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>>287329138
>Perfidy
Reminder that Luke Skywalker is canonically guilty of this.
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>>287327872
To be fair, Odin himself was a non entity for more than half the manga. Since his defeat he does nothing until he's reintroduced in the amusement park fight, and that's the last arc before the finale.
I realize that the manga had perhaps too many supporting characters that get focus, they are mostly fine but it could have been better to cut a few of the redundant Shinpaku or Yomi members after their arcs.
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>>287321283
I would breed and make Yuzuriha bear my children. But with hate
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>>287328514
I hope it's a highly contagious one.
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>>287330382
Typical eugenics mentality. A Kuremisago should understand it.
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>>287330256
Odin's role is incredibly important though, his fight with Kenichi is probably the single most important one to Kenichi's development (the only competitor is Kenichi beating Shou) and he actually does do something post defeat and pre-amusement park - he helps Kenichi out on the Island when he's chasing Miu.

>it could have been better to cut a few of the redundant Shinpaku or Yomi members after their arcs.

They actually do, there are Shinpaku guys who fade away into the background like glasses karate guy and the vast majority of the Yomi guys never show up again till the finale, it's just Chikage and Rachel that end up as pseudo-main cast. The fact that say, Thor and Freya are always there as backup characters is fine because the story doesn't force them to have spotlight beyond occasional moments like Thor fighting Rimi briefly.

I think the only Shinpaku alliance member who I would like to have seen get significantly more attention is Kisara, because she's fairly important in Ragnarok and later in the tournament but her relevance craters afterwards.
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>>287331284
It would be fine if the disciples were the only characters the manga focuses on, but you have to consider the Masters very increased prominence after the tournament. The whole Hongo focused arc was just him, Sasaki, Jenezad and Miu for like five volumes.
The issue with the disciples is that, since they are always in the background, it looks like they are relevant. But let's look at the numbers. Siegfried, Tanimoto, Kisara, Freya, Thor and Berserker don't get any fight that focuses on them for more than one chapter, Renka gets one but it's very short and is then pushed to the side, Tanaka meanwhile gets three multi chapter fights. The amusement park is the most blatant example where there are several pairs prepared but only two fights are shown, the others are done off screen or have no absolutely no stakes.
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>>287331472
I actually agree that the amusement park arc - which I still liked - got out of hand because Takada's fight was the only one that was shown properly and the story moved on to the Rimi/Miu stuff too quickly which accelerated the timeframe. That actually ended up skipping Kenichi's own fight too which is baffling.

But you need to think about the manga as a whole; Freya gets a focus fight at the tournament. She doesn't need constant focus fights. Sieg gets a huge moment at the tournament when he comes down on the plane, Ukita when he throws that guy out and then breaks a finger, and Kisara when she imitates a cat. Tanimoto is the pointman for the Fortuna fight. Takada is kind of the outlier in that he gets an actual proper fight to himself with Lugh.

They are side characters, they're not so major that they need multi-chapter fights but they're major enough that they get to come to the group battles and beat mooks and get comedy scenes in the SOL stuff. I actually prefer how Kenichi does it to most other series because it doesn't pretend that they need a ton of focus time but still cares enough to include them and they do get *something* to do even if it's minor.

I think ironically that Renka is the one who disrupts the rhythm here, because she actually gets a lot of focus post-Ragnarok including a constant rivalry with a Yomi member despite not really being a proper Shinpaku Alliance member.
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>>287331284
Kisara is a weird character cause she's arguably the main villain for the couple volumes, considering that she was the boss of the Ragnarok branch of Kenichi's. But since Kenichi refuses to hit girls, they never have a true confrontation, instead getting relegated to a joke rivalry with Miu. It's not exactly unheard of for the MC to not fight big boss but it's usually because the their is too weak, like Spandam in Enies Lobby or too strong like Yamamoto in the Soul Society arc
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>>287331727
He ends up impressing her with his conviction ultimately. I think avoiding Kenichi having to directly fight a Fist at first helps build them up a little more when he has to fight Hermit head on.
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>>287331698
The thing is that all those moments you mention were all done in the tournament, which is the halfway point of the manga. It's later that they are unfocused on outside short group fights. For example Freya nominally gets a short art where they rescue her and her grandfather. But she doesn't really do anything memorable there herself.
And saying that Renka disrupts the rhythm is funny since her appearances plummet to the point she becomes more common in chapter covers than in actual panels.
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>>287331817
I don't totally disagree with you that the SA individually don't get a lot of attention later on. I would prefer if they did, but I'm also fine with them mainly working as a team because it stops members from being left out while giving them stuff to do that's not time intensive. And I appreciated them when they show up post tournament in the hunt for Freya's grandpa, the Data Transfer Arc, and the amusement park arc and even the final arc.

Renka's appearances don't plummet, this is what annoys me, Renka barely appears in Ragnarok, she's there to look for Ma and then the pool and that's basically it. Her importance actually massively increases later on when she becomes a part time SA member and gets important fights, people only complain about her not appearing more because they see her as a harem member when HSDK is not meant to be a harem series. She never fits in with the other SA characters as much because she doesn't have shared history whereas they all knew each other from Ragnarok and aside from her fights with Rachel her sole character beat is pining for Kenichi who has only ever been interested in Miu from chapter 1. She's like if you gave the glasses girl from the flower club regular fights.

And the reason I say she disrupts the rhythm is that if you gave her fights with Rachel to Kisara or Freya then that would be a SA-Yomi rivalry that would tie them together so it's not just Takada who's getting a Yomi fight. Considering that Tanimoto does get a pseudo-Yomi fight against that Clear Dragon guy who used the same style as him, I think just one more Yomi win for SA would have made them feel a bit less neglected.
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>>287332497
Renka appearances are an illusion. She appears to be important because she always shows up in covers but she never takes part in the group shots of SA. She only gets the first fight with Rachel as a focus, the second one is a joke that's less than chapter, and the bird master fight where she does anything. She doesn't appear in any of the raid arcs where the whole team participates in the background and only reruns for the the very last part of the final fight. Take her away from the chapter covers and you will notice how unmentioned and irrelevant she was for several years of the run.
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>>287333083
Author probably thought about it and decided they didn't want constant romantic pressure on Miu/Kenichi constantly via Renka since it would just result in Miu being jealous bitch and taking it out on Kenichi which would weaken her likability.
Hell, look at >>287327213
This is third to last volume where they're headed into their deadliest situation yet, Miu knew Kenichi was just catching Kisara during training after she had been thrown, Kenichi didn't even notice he was holding onto her washboard chest and was busy talking, Miu knows they're effectively dating, and Miu STILL hit him over it.
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>>287333083
I know Renka isn't important, my point is that she was never important and her importance actually increases post-Ragnarok. She gets an actual Yomi fight as a focus. Even Miu doesn't get a Yomi rival until the Data Transfer Arc (Rimi). She never takes part in the group shots of SA because she's not really a core member, she doesn't have any history with them and the author clearly doesn't feel comfortable adding people to the main cast post-Ragnarok.

Basically my point is that someone else should have gotten the Rachel fight, Renka doesn't do anything interesting with it. If you're eliminating surplus SA members, Renka is that surplus SA member since she manages to hoover up a rival while being totally uninteresting.
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>>287321251
Since they're supposed to be dishonourable, will we finally see SOMEBODY exploit Kenichi's reluctance to hit women? I swear, you could have Shigure treating him how Ma Kensei treats women and he still wouldn't hit back.
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>>287333971
I'd like to think Kenichi has gained enough wisdom to at least fight back against a rape attempt. He'd probably needlessly angst about it for a while, though.
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>>287333971
>Shigure takes over as the token pervert and constantly sneaks photos of Kenichi and feels him up during training
I'd be fine with this.
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>>287334114
It's not rape, it's training. Shigure is just teaching him how best to wield his hyper weapon.



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