So, why did female anime fans hate these two characters specifically?
>>287309000Because they're useless and examples of how not to write heroines.
>>287309000They're nice so most people can't self insert.
>>287309000Everyone loves Orihime.
>>287309000Jealousy A total lack of personality other than constantly repeating "Naruto-kun" and "Kurosaki-san"Sakura and Rukia were just more interesting as characters
>>287309000the only good thing about these useless bitches are their boobs
>>287309000I don't know, why don't you ask them?
>>287309048
>>287309000Trips checked. Also, only losers (which by definition includes fujoshits) and homosexuals were mad about Hinata ad Orihime winning, no exceptions.
>>287309167No one said anything about her usefulness, retard-kun. Other than liking Ichigo and being kind and caring toward others, she doesn't have much else going for her.
>>287309048>A total lack of personality other than constantly repeating "Naruto-kun" and "Kurosaki-san"This shows a concerning low level of reading comprehension, specially in Orihime's case. Hinata straight up has more of a character arc than Sakura. >Sakura and Rukia were just more interesting as charactersAnd this one is just awful reasoning. Sakura is such a shitty non character that liking her is a sign of mental illness, and I like Rukia, but she wasn't that interesting on her own and I'd argue her relationship with Ichigo was well constructed precisely because it was explicitly not romantic.
>>287309258Not him, but the image he posted includes several bits about her portrayal as a character that have nothing to do with uselfulness that you chose to ignore. Bleach is at it's core, a story about how people deal with death, so it was interesting how Kubo chose to pit Orihime's optimism and empathy (her personal response to loss, in particular her brother's) against both Ichigo's brooding and callousness, and later to a literal embodiment of nihilism in Ulquiorra.
>>287309000Because they are boring and their defining character trait is liking the protagonist. I don’t even like Sakura but Hinata legit just revolves around Naruto in a dumb way
>>287309000Fujos, Anon. They’re a different species of female fans.
>>287309000
>>287309000Tits.
When I started Shippuden I expected Hinata to be more relevant and she was useless all along.Concerning Bleach, Orihime feel forced in the main crew, everyone else was more interesting.
Tatsuki >>>>> Orihime
>>287309550What did I tell you? This one's a fag.
>>287309000There are no reasons to like them either. Their only purpose is to be fucktoy and incubators for MC, no personality just a hole. I wonder why people don't like empty characters
>>287309923...And this one's a fujoshit or a fag. What did I tell you? No exceptions.
>>287309000It's first girl worst girl syndrome.First girl exists to ruin literally everything.
Everyone hated Orihime because of the Japanese dub script had her repeating "Kurosaki-kun! Kurosaki-kun!" ad nauseam. Her powers were interesting but she did even less than Chad, she helped out Grimmjaw, Ulquiorra and Aizen more than she ever did for the main cast. And lastly, Rukia was just plain, cooler.I can't say why people hated Hinata though, I've never watched Naruto beyond a clip where she and Sakura get naked. And that too, was like in Cartoon Network Pakistan, before we got internet.
>>287309409Holly cope, now anon, re-read all the manga. Without fillers, hentai and headcanon.
>>287309000>So, why did female anime fans hate these two characters specifically?Well tbf, there's actually quite a lot of female Hinata & Orihime fans. It's just not immediately noticeable with all the noise around big shonen fanbases because of shipping shitstorms and the like, but to answer your question, it's mostly fugly fujo rage. Some female fans can't even comprehend inserting themselves into an attractive and kind woman, and that makes them afraid and confused and finally angry.
>>287309971This isn't an argument. Hardly even a shitpost, actually.
>>287309000no personality>>287309048>Sakura and Rukia were just more interesting as characterstrue
>Is the only female love interest >Is actually useful>Is more reasonable than the MC and actually gets him to get his head out his ass>No one complains about her>People actually like her for her personality and not just her looks but she is busty>Ends up with MC>Even in the adaptation where she doesn't, she still a likeable and useful character and reason she doesn't actually works
>>287310335Bonus point: She look like Samus.
>11 fucking years and this is still being debated.>i get naruto fags but bleach come on now.
I like Orihime and RukiaI hated Sakura but like Hinata
>>287310335female author
>>287309000Why did men hate Justin Bieber?Why do men hate male K-Pop idols?
>>287310092Dogshite taste, Sakura is fucking awful. In Bleach's case, Orihime and Rukia are both alright, but neither is even top 5 on their world, there's too many cool and beautiful women in Bleach (one of its few saving graces, really).
>>287309000>why did female anime fans hate these twoNot all of them, just the ones who self inserted as Rukia and Sakura, and were Biblically upset when they didn't get dicked down by Ichigo and Naruto.Most likely many of them were women who can only like a female character if she doesn't make hem feel jealous and insecure about the size of their breasts.
>>287310482Speaking of, why were millennials so obsessed with hating this person?
>>287309000Because they get in the way of yaoi. Same reason they hated Misa Amane.
>>287310658'Baby, baby oh' was LITERALLY inescapable for a number of years. If you were living in a first world country and you watched tv, listened to the radio, or went outside at all, you would hear it at least once a day, usually more. It was somehow even worse online, his popularity coincided with the rise of meme culture, which meant that damn near every video would use it as part of a bit or sketch, even if only that one part.I can still hear it sometimes, popping up in my mind entirely unprompted.
>>287309000Never fucking understood why people made such a critique for orihime when ichigo literally shows that he cares about her unconditionally since they met when they were 9 or six years old after her brother died in the car accident.
Think about which types of foids would insert as quirk chungus Rukia and mega-bitch Sakura.
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>>287309000It's pretty simple really, they self inserted as the girls who ended up losing out in the end
>>287309000Female Anime Fans hate Hinata?
>>287311375Everyone hated NarutoxSakura.There may have been just as many fanatics where.Sakura died and was replaced with Haku. Hell people shipped Naruto with Tsunade more then Sakura. I hate this revisionist history...Also the One Piece one is hilarious if you understand the context and is probably THE JOKE.
>>287311788>Female Anime FansAre unimportant especially in the eyes of Shounen Jump.
>>287311873Women are literally 50% of the Jump audience. They're marketed to as strongly as men. Why do you think Haikyu did so well?>>287311788They really don't care for her at all.
>>287310482They're all what women want in men.They're all what men doesn't want to be.
>>287309000who's the girl on the left?
>>287309000Never watched Naruto but Orihime was fucking annoying with her constant "Kurosaki kun", she is consistently weak and useless, the only thing people liked about her was her big boobs but that doesn't redeem a trash character, she has a crush on Ichigo yet never made a move on him after the fight with Aizen and just allowed him to be depressed and then an arc later she marries him kek
>>287311873they buy most of the merch
>>287311375SNAP BACK TO REALITY
>>287311855Wasn’t it very popular that there was a forum created for artwork ? And didn’t the authors wife get mad over it not happening.
>>287310546>>287311855
>>287315319Sakura's a bitch, but Hinata is Naruto's bitch.
>>287315319>times Hin saved Naruto3 by Naruto's own count.>times Sakura saved Naruto2 (and that's a stretch)>times Naruto saved Hinata3 times directly>times Naruto saved SakuraAbout 15 gorillion. I fucking lost count by the war arc. If that's the standard, no wonder she's on perma fraud check.
>>287309000They're pretty boring and if you just ignore them a lot of their fans are titty cosplayers and fat chicks who go "if you don't like her you're just a self hating misogynist who can't stand other sexier women, my body is literally shaped like that"
>>287315319Pretty sure the count is wrong but I don't think you can present any other moment where Sakura saves Naruto the same way Hinata decided to 1v1 the person who wiped out Konoha just to buy him time.
>>287309000Breast envy. You might think there's more to it but nope, it's really just that.
>>287315319FRAUDruto must be pretty dimeless if he would've died if these two low level shitters didn't carry him
>>287309000I noticed both have big boobies, am I smart?
>>287316020Naruto (as in the manga) was basically about people's bonds with each other and understanding (tm) even in a terrible and violent world. It makes sense that the friends he made eventually saved the walking nuke Jesus ninja at various points of his life when you think about it like that.
Every half year I come back to this board and it keeps getting worse. Self-moderation is dead.
I don't remember anyone ever hating on Hinata when I was watching Naruto. Granted in was like 12 years ago.
>>287309000idk anything about the big tit monster on the left other than she is from Bleach and Hinata does something and/or appears in like 6 chapters out of 700 so I don't think about or hate her at all really
>>287315319Am i the only one who thinks he should have scored with both girls.
>>287311855>people shipped Naruto with Tsunade more then SakuraBased HAGruto
>>287317725Only if he also scored with tsunade.
>>287318534>>287317725That actually makes good writing content for a naruto sequel reboot.>a 20 year old naruto has some choices.>Hinata.who is now the new heir of her clan with a huge set of tits who is eager and willing to make naruto the head leader of the hyuga clan.>sakura.Is the top profesional doctor of the leaf village with big ass and thighs finally matures, cuts the sasuke bullshit so she now craves a real man and goes crazy for nardo dick>tsunade.Now a retiree life gets boring only gambling and drinking, tsunade is a fully loaded package deal , the ass the tits the cash. Ready to pamper ruto as her boy toy.
>>287309000I like Orihime but I just love Rukia. Rukia is easily in the top 3 girls of all time.What I hate about Orihime and Hinata is 99% of their art is cuck porn.
>>287309000No one likes useless jobbers
>>287309000Tourists hate big titties since forever. Twitter now, tumblr before.
>>287309000women are just like men in that they base who the best characters are based on how many fights they win. Look at every character they claim is good representation in any non romance series its all just women who win a lot of fights.
>>287310658He was a real asshole in his youth and was guys first experience growing up with a guy that people will justify all of their bad behavior because he can sing and was good looking.
>>287319158I would be entertained by naruto if that was the case.
>>287309048>Sakura and Rukia were just more interesting as characters>Sakura>interesting??????She gets a grand total of two relevant fights on a personal level and doesn't personally close either of them off. She largely stands around to exposit, be exposited to, heal people, or cheer. She's more useful as a reason for Naruto to do shit than she does anything on her own most of the time. And being "the generic girl next door" as a person with an attitude problem that largely gets mended by the second half results in a character that feels borderline superfluous to the series beyond the girl teammate. Like, if Sakura was supposed to be the heroine, she is one of the most pointless heroines I have ever seen outside of the residual medic. Holy shit anon, what the fuck.I can agree on Rukia, however. Orihime is just super boring compared to her.
Absolutely nobody wanted Narutard to fuck pink shit over Hinata besides actual subhumans with even literal cucks. It still feels like a miracle she won because of the sheer hackery at that point in her way preventing it from being canon so much fucking sooner.Rukia is at least plenty likable without shipperfags on staff apparently going against Kubo.
>>287309000Sexy Jutsu Naruto, Sexy Jutsu Boruto and Sexy Jutsu Konohamaru are the only good girls in Naruto.
>>287309048Rukia was written like a boy.
>>287309018Yeah Orihime feels more like the heroine of a porn magazine instead of a shonen manga. The reason people were pulling for Rukia so hard was because she was on the front lines getting her ass kicked by Ichigo's side. Meanwhile tits here was just a damsel in distress.
>>287319827>Rukia was written like a boy
>>287309000Hinata still is less hated than Sakura, both are hated because Naruto fandom is riddled with Sasunaru fujos.For Bleach it's not specifically Orihime fault, but Rukia literally placed over Ichigo in a bunch of popularity poll.People ship popular characters together.I will add that Bleach still did good for having a straight ship be the most popular, it's a big achievement in a WSJ battle shonen(and yes One Piece is not fujosl riddled like Naruto, but Zosan is still the most popular ship in the fandom)
>>287309000Naruto and hinata make no sesne.Ichigo and orihime are ok and i understand why rukia fans are pist.
>>287309000Same reason Aerithfags hate Tifa: big tits
>>287309258That's a lot of stuff for a human girl! do you pretend that she pulls out a vollstanding from her ass and starts to fly ing and firing lasers like a retard?
>>287310658Jealousy. Actually women were less crazy when they were allowed to openly like white boys>>287319361Nah he told his grandparents to fuck off after never helping his mother
>>287309258>No one said anything about her usefulness,>>287309018literally the first post
>>287320007Rukia was almost always in the top 3 characters in popularity polls. She would beat Ichigo and has even been first place in a couple popularity polls.>1st poll Rukia was 2nd place, Kon was 4th, Orihime was 5th>2nd poll Rukia was 2nd place, Orihime was 12th>3rd poll Rukia was 3rd place, Orihime was 10th>4th poll Rukia was 2nd place, Orihime was 8th>5th poll zanpakuto poll but Rukia's zanpakuto was 2nd place>6th poll was a fight poll but one of Rukias fights got 7th>7th poll Rukia was 1st place>8th poll zanpakuto poll but Rukia's zanpakuto was 1st place>9th poll was a fight poll but Rukias fights got 2nd and 3rd>10th poll Rukia was 1st place, Orihime 6th
Xcution was literally the perfect opportunity for Orihime and completely fucked her over. We'll never know what could've been if Kubo didn't just give up then rush everything with captains.
>>287320056Tifa is an actual unlike SHITrith her being hot is a bonus
>>287320505actual character*
>>287320140No they fucking weren't. If you mean strictly crazy fans, there are tons of groupies for white boy singers that seem just as unhinged as the [x]pop fans of today. Not that guys are off the hook for that
>>287309923>Their only purpose is to be fucktoy and incubators for MC, no personality just a holeAlways the most misogynist takes from the so-called good female characters enjoyers.
>>287309048Sakura is terrible and pinkshitters are leas than humans, thoughbeit.
>>287309146What bitch isn't useless in Naruto? Beside Tsunade, Mei and Conan i guess.
>>287321933Honestly Kishimoto is hardly the worst about it in shonen, but goddamn it's hilarious to see how useless his female characters are. And if they don't exist for fanservice or plot, they exist to die.
>>287321981Uselessness is subjective. They have their roles and they fulfill them well, Hinata with her byakugan, Sakura with healing and Ino with mind transfer. They don't have to be uberwarriors.
>>287322086That's the thing; I'm not asking for prime time super warriors or anything. But Hinata and Ino barely exist most of the time because they have zero relevance to the plot til it comes knocking on the home door, you need anime filler to get more from them. Tsunade exists to lead, do medical stuff and rarely do a fight, but the series spends most of its time staring at her tits and then she gets chopped in half the one time she tries to make a difference because her enemy was Madara. Hell, Rin's entire existence is to basically get buried for the sake of Obito's vengeance despite the attempted parallels with Sakura, which end up going nowhere anyway. You talk roles, and these characters largely serve roles to fill out the world or serve as motivators, and nothing else.
>>287309018>>287309146>>287309886>>287319283>>287321933>>287321981I don't know about that Rukia girl but whenever Hinata appears she's mostly useful. Cheering up Naruto before Neji fight, serving as the recon during Itachi pursuit arc, sacrificing herself against Pain triggering Naruto's transformation, saving Neji from white zetsu during war, saving Naruto from spike to the head, getting Naruto to snap out of Obito's talk-no-jutsu after Neji's death, rallying allied shinobi when Naruto was recovering, destroying Tenseigan together with Naruto etc. She does quite a lot for a character with so little screen time. In any case, she doesn't appear enough to be hated so all hatred feels pretty artificial.
>>287322216>But Hinata and Ino barely exist most of the time because they have zero relevance to the plot til it comes knocking on the home doorWhat's worse, characters barely appearing or being forced into the plot? What would you have them do, anyway?>but the series spends most of its time staring at her tits and then she gets chopped in half the one time she tries to make a differenceThat's pretty reductive>and these characters largely serve roles to fill out the world or serve as motivators, and nothing elseA lot of male characters don't even get that.
>>287309000Because they're what men actually want, rather than what women think men want (Sakura).
>>287312129I heard the episode with Hinata's confession is pretty popular in Japan. And her shipping movie.
>>287310092>no personalityWhat's Sakura's personality, being a bitch and sucking up to Sasuke?
>>287322490Even if that were true, that's still more than "stammers and likes Naruto"
>>287310995>Baby, baby ohRocko?
>>287309550>>287315977Being nice and supportive is boring? Even then Hinata has her moments like slapping Naruto or ripping out Toneri's eyes to show that she's not just a goody-two-shoes.>Hinata legit just revolves around Naruto in a dumb wayShe goes against his wishes quite a lot.
>>287322518She had more internality and real struggles than Sakura, despite being much more tertiary character. It's actually bizarre how shallow and empty Sakura is as a character despite ostensibly being one of the main characters. Hinata's struggle with her role of supposed privilege and failing to meet her family's expectations, her poisoned relationships with Neji and Hinabi, it's all more than Sakura ever got, and it's actually something that gives her character and isn't just pining for some boy. Even her affection for Naruto actually makes sense because it, instead of just being an absurdly shallow crush on someone because they're hot and edgy.
>>287322518It's about the same. And she has personality, it's just reserved and quiet. She's kind, honest, observant, she can get to Naruto with her words. She's also brave and loyal, and doesn't hesitate to fight even when outmatched.
>>287322679It's kind of fucky how the series ends up relying so much on chosen ones, long-lived bloodlines of legend, and family powers, and then here's fuckin Sakura sitting here with zero involvement in any of it besides being a dead ringer for Rin and becoming Tsunade's student by happenstance. And instead of using her to prove that you don't NEED to be a sage-blooded wacko with god powers to change the world, she mostly just heals and then punches the alien moon rabbit in the head once while complaining about being left out.
>>287322711She also danced around naked once which eternally endeared me to her characterhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0beWGCwo6M>18 years oldWhere does the time go?
>>287316220I heard all but one or two jannies quit over the entire site.>>287309000You’re probably thinking of the mid fatties who hate them just because they’re busty and submissive.
>>287309000they appeal to male fantasies. How dare you want a cute chick with big tits who's un-apologetically nice to you
>>287309838This picture exposes you as a butthurt bitch every time you post it. >This is Hinata, a character no one gives a fuck about except boobies and love stories fansAnd cunts who make those pictures.>What we wanted Irrelevant.>More and more FUCKING SHITTY Hinata screentimeWell yes you retard, that episode was adaptation of a canon one-shot. Should they have cut her to pander to you?
>>287320471>Xcution was literally the perfect opportunity for Orihime and completely fucked her over.Same for Hinata with The Last and Boruto movies. The fucking writers didn't even try to improve on Kishi's hack writing beside that one nice character beat they've managed to give Hinata, her leaving Naruto to go save Hanabi. And she still doesn't have a single impressive fight under her belt despite getting chakra handouts from Sage's brother and the villains in those movie being complete jobbers who get beaten by a single punch or in Momoshiki's case by a literal kid.
Rukia one thing but people calling Sakura interesting are full of shit. It's actually jarring how little she has going for her outside of plot forced parallels. The funniest joke of all is despite a whole series of spending time with and pining over Naruto ->Sasuke she never bothered to learn nor understand anything about them or what moves them
>>287322954>and the villains in those movie*Movies
>>287309000Being useless bitches; this is a shounen, not a shoujo.
>>287322981Another retard.
It’s funny how often their hatedoms are discussed because don’t ask me how I know this, but ironically there’s more gore art of Rukia than Orihime. And drawing a Naruto x Hinata doujin made 774 move away from his depravity for good.
>>287322801I would give Rukia big tits the hard way.
>>287309048>sakura>interesting as a characterKek, Hinata's nardo obsession had more depth than Sakura's sasgay obsession
>>287309167>ichigo's multiple times>I'm the series>@BankaiBoz
>>287322954At least we got this.
>>287314531The author can't stand his wifes nagging and used his mouthpiece Shikamaru to constantly express his feelings about how annoying women are.Also that was a vocal minority. NarutoxSasuke was a far more powerful ship then NatutoxSakura ever was. Hell... Shizune was more popular in doujins with Naruto then Sakura for a while.
>>287317725No you are not. Sakura and Hinata harem end with Naruto would have been cute. But Naruto is a Christian Manga and we must obey God's law.
Did Sakura do a single thing in the entire manga besides turn into a puppet to be controlled by someone else and punch Kaguya in the head?
Shes not ugly but her personality and character is absolute shit how do you improve it.
>>287310658early zoomers did it too, what are you talking about?
>>287323712Dominant seggs with Hinata and Ino.
>>287323712>make her actually do shit that matters beyond healing>make her actually do things with other characters beyond ino and team 7 so that she forms more relationships, comradeship, rivals, etc, instead of being borderline static in one place>make her parents actually show up more than for the non-canon anime filler and film and show her relationship with them in ways that contrast what sasuke and naruto lack instead of simply just having them>make her do more than be the straight man to the idiocy of naruto, the snark to sai, or the dicksucker of sasuke, like actually be a human being rather than the trope she generally exists as>also stop making her sit on the shonen sideline bench to commentate on other people's fights and actually show off that mountain-busting strength more, or use that supposed intelligence she has to actually run as a team tactician like shikamaru does for his team, albeit in different waysliterally you have plenty of avenues to make sakura not be a shit character, and kishimoto doesn't care to while studio pierrot sure as fuck didn't care to in favor of hinata.
>>287309838Shipping shit aside. Why the FUCK did they not adapt #700? How could they let the anime end without Naruto being Hokage.
>>287323837>kishimoto doesn't care to while studio pierrot sure as fuck didn't care to in favor of hinataHinata needs that more and you can't complain about the amount of screentime Sakura got.
>>287323942>>287323837>>287323712>>287323972 #I had to do it
>>287309048A friend of mine that followed Bleach since it's release told me that in his experience, males tend to like Rukia more while women tend to like Orihime more and hate Rukia.
>>287324013you chose to do it
>>287323942Which is fucking hilarious because that means Hinata in a tiny fraction of the time actually has more character and a couple arcs to her than Sakura did as a primary character of the entire series.
>>287309000Not a shipperfag myself but I totally get the Orihime seethe. She was mediocre at the start and always outclassed as a character by Rukia. Seriously Rukia mogged the fuck out of her in everything but cup size. Orihime was at her worst in HM where KUROSAKI-KUN was 95% of her dailogue. While she was much better afterward in the fullbring arc, the anime zanpakuto filler arc running at the same time was better in every way with Rukia having a more significant role. The Pierrot anime consistently gave Rukia good filler scenes and interactions with Ichigo, which I'm sure Kubo hated.The Hinata hate is retarded and has no justification. Sakura was always a terrible useless character, a fucking cunt to everyone around her for the entire story, a genuinely bad person. Hinata never had much focus given to her, but she had several good moments. Ironically the anime was also Pierrot but didn't have any of that shipperfag shilling like Bleach. In fact I remember watching one of the post-episode 120 filler arc in the original series as a kid, and one or two of them gave Hinata something cool to do. It's a shame Hinata was ruined in Boruto.What really confuses me about all of this is why anyone gives a shit. Ichigo and Naruto are the blandest most boring non-characters possible. Who the fuck cares which girl they fuck in the epilogue? I never once cared about either of them, and I don't understand how the story was supposed to make me care.
>>287324087>one or two of them gave Hinata something cool to doAnd I see it was already posted >>287322753
>>287309000Something to keep in mind:>「ナルトがヒナタと一緒になることは結構早い段階で決めていましたね。だからこそ、ナルトとサクラがくっつくかのようにミスリードさせるために、あえてサクラとナルトの母親であるクシナの動きを重ねるかのようなシーンを描いたりもしたんです」。>"I decided quite early on that Naruto would be with Hinata, so I deliberately depicted a scene where Sakura and Naruto's mother, Kushina, were overlapping in order to mislead Naruto and Sakura as if they were sticking together." >https://eiga.com/movie/79681/interview/
>>287324182Honestly I don't think Kishimoto had much long-term planning at all, but whatever the case it's not like the series even attempted once to actually ship Naruto and Sakura together in any meaningful fashion anyway. The shippers obsessed with that shit genuinely have to invent reasons for it to matter.
>>287324182Does that but doesn’t even fucking develop his intended pairings.What a hack
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>>287324182Remember, kids, Naruto has enough chakra to fight in a war without stopping; if he wanted to be with his family, there's no way paperwork could stop him.
>>287324247He clearly didn’t give a shit and just paired him with hinata because sakura sucks and was hated by the fandom.
>>287324285using clones for work is shameful. He would dishonor his family and his predecessors
>>287324324Anon, it's Naruto, you chose the worst argument here.
>>287322636Kinda. Same with male characters. Dudes that are nothing but herbivores are boring, it doesnt matter much if their dick is big.
>>287324347anon this goes beyond naruto straight to the meta essence of the culture that created it. Honor and the right way and all that stuff. If we're just talking strictly in universe then every single villager should get their own daily Naruto clone which would improve leaf productivity at least 1000x.
>>287324439Again, it's Naruto, He throws a bunch of clones at all the problems he has.
>>287324182Lel what a bastard
>>287322717Neji had to die because he couldn't be allowed to see that he was 100% right. Hard work means jack fucking shit. If you want to succeed at anything you must be a chosen one
Hinata is shit can't raise her kids right. Hinata's son hates Naruto, Hinata's daughter is just retarded
>>287310546Remember when Sakura destroyed a life long friendship because they were arguing over a boy who has shown zero interest in either of them?
>>287309000>Ichiruki cucks and Narusaku fags still seething to this dayLmao
>>287310615>they didn't get dicked downIt's important to remember that anime fans are so brained rotted and hyper sensitive that even if the MC gets a girl in the end if another girl so much LOOKS at another dude let alone get with him then they start screaming NTR!
>>287326630Boruto being a piece of shit was a perfectly acceptable response to Naruto being a legimately terrible person.Naruto literally has the power to finish all of his paperwork in 5 minutes. But instead he sits in his office for 20 hours a day because he views using shadowclones to help him be hokage is cheating.Meanwhile he thought sending a clone to be a replacement parent was a completely fine thing to do.
>>287309000Replace Hinata with Sakura. Why do newfags compare her with Orihime, Hinata was actually liked to a degree by the fandom.
>>287326743that's just trash writing to create drama for the sake of drama. Naruto not using shadow clones to solve literally every single one of his problems is both ooc and stupid
>>287326743Wait I forget, doesn't he keep the memories of the clones? Like they really are functionally just multiple versions of himself. It works on Madrox rules right? So it's basically the same as being there.
>>287326743Nope I can't sympathize with boruto when the last gen cast consisted of so many orphans.Kinda washed.
>>287326826Yes when they poof out of existence all the memories of the clone go to him. That's how he was able to do years of training in days.
>>287326808>that's just trash writing to create drama for the sake of dramaYeah I feel like there's a bigger issue here were people blame characters when they should be pointing fingers at the writers.
>>287326743Not Naruto's fault for Hinata being a shit mother.
>>287315319>>287309167It doesn't matter if you give them a hundred "look at me be useful" moments if they're a worthless block of wood for their entire existence both before and after the few scenes the author gives them out of obligation. Same shit as One Piece. A character spends 800 chapters being straight ass and then gets one chapter where they do a single thing for one panel and then everyone cums in their jorts and says that was their best moment. Nigger that was their ONLY moment.
>>287309000>So, why did female anime fans hate these two characters specifically?It's literally the opposite, you historical revisionist dipshit retard.Only landwhale fujos liked Orihime across the entire breadth and depth of years of Bleach threads. The tiny female minority was literally made fun of for that, called "landwhales" and "himewhales", because it was just fat girls who liked her. Rukia was one of /a/'s patron saintesses.But then Naruto (which SHOULD have been exiled from the board, but moot was too much of a pussy) imploded with its "failed ship" and ALL the narutard retards jumped ship and flooded into Bleach and other shounenshit threads and tried to flip every single table they could find and stir shit up with shipping wars. None of that ever existed in any scale in Bleach before, it was only just the fat self inserting femcel. Now for the past X years since Bleach manga died it's been nothing but the same narutards with psychopathic mental illnesses trying to force their shit and create "shipping forever wars" because they're still salty about what happened in Naruto.
>Only [headcanon]
In which boruto episode Hinata gets an abortion?
>>287309167Bleach isn't about who used their D-rank powers to save whom. It was abount moments where the characters open their hearts to each other a little. The battles are a vehicle for that. Random late-stage "ah akshually i like him but i'm afraid to tell him" is flat and tepid compared to things like "I don't know how to step in your heart without getting it dirty". What made Bleach great is that things like that transcended mere "school romcom"-ism and made deeper spiritual connections between its characters. Which is why the vast majority of the Bleach readership would have been perfectly comfortable with, and were expecting, a non-romantic ending, because Kubo had established himself as an author who cared less about hugging and kissing than he did about resolution, redemption, and self-forgiveness. Tossing in a "and then he married the girl he barely interacted with who had a highschool crush on him" was just tacky and out of left field, and it's very telling that all those who argue "for" it /only/ ever do so out of the concentrated demonic-psychopath urge to cause damage. It's only ever existed to be part of a zero-sum shitpost game.
>>287310658he was annoying and it was annoying hearing every single girl talk about him in all my classes.Mostly I think it was a bandwagon type thing though. It was cool to hate him. If you hated him you were part of a group that hated him.
>>287309048Trips of truth
>>287310335You should be more honest about how retarded you are
>>287309018Can someone tell me how being a healer is useless again?
>>287309000They're only hated by butthurt shippers and feminists whining about female characters wanting dick and babies over fights.
>>287309000Poor Hinata still catching flak from asshurt sakura/naruto shippers like a decade later
>>287309167>one of the most powerfullol no>blocks attacks from yhwachACK! that lasted one attack and she got fucked retard>consistent arc about overcoming weaknessher weakness is being useless in fights and still continues to be, healing is not fighting retard>willing to protect enemiesah yes... so "positive" for a character thats fucking stupid>Consistent foreshadow with ichigoyou mean the nonstop "Ichigo only looks at rukia in his eyes Wahhhh!" thats not foreshadow or anything at all>Healing 2-3 times on thereThis is all the proof i need you can't even name anything positive about her besides tits and healing>Gives up her freedom to save friendsthat literally any of them do? And this wasn't even a smart plan for any reason, some random who's got killed while espada were getting their ass kicked anyway. She just went "yeah hand the braclet on over ulquiorra and i'll follow to be kidnapped and a burden like a tard">Saved ichigo multiple timeso does rukiaUraharaYoruichiKenpachiNelit's not even anything meaningful for the character
>>287322636>Being nice and supportive is boring?YES RETARD even fucking male characters get made fun of for it you stupid fuck
>>287324285>>287324324The entire clone plot device wouldn't be so bad if he were actually doing something more worthwhile. Like being out of the village, meeting with the other leaders and bringing peace to other nations is something worth having a clone over.
>>287309000Because they won and they didn't want them to win. /thread
>>287309000Hinata when from a soilder to a stay at home mom and that pissed feminist off.
>>287324182>I wrote Hinata to be irrelevant and useless then write a romance storyline between Sakura and Naruto to SUBVERT EXPECTATIONS What a hack
>>287326905Not Hinata's job to be a father to his brat son.
>>287329687That's her son too
>>287329051Suck my dick bitch.
>>287329700shut up.
>>287323712>>287324013Easy. For her personality, character AND looks.
>>287327052Genuinely what the fuck are you talking about. When was Hinata ever been "a worthless block of wood for their entire existence" when she doesn't have a lot of screentime to be annoying or useless in the first place? And whenever she appears she gets a character moment of some kind >>287322305
>>287326630>>287329698She raised them fine, they're sweet kids. Naruto is just simply a wageslave faggot.
>>287329774Hinatafaggot....
Both Orihime and Hinata are easily the best girls of the likely romance candidates in their series (Yoruichi and Konan otherwise), the seething is mostly because they’re in battle shonen but never get given any proper battles. Kishimoto and Kubo are both fucking hacks, making all these characters and not even using them. At least Nami and Robin in One Piece get a fair amount of battles. The Rukia rage comes solely from retards. Yes she has chemistry with Ichigo but none of it is romantic, its more like a little sister. Fucking Unohana had more romantic chemistry with Ichigo than Rukia did.
>>287324247>>287324314>>287329448He started developing NaruHina during chunin exams but then for one reason or another just stopped giving them scenes together.
Are there any anime or cartoons that have as 4chan-satisfactory a result as Naruhina?
>>287309838>fabricating consensusthanks CNN
>>287323712Kishi should've just fused her and Lee into one person, and done the same with Guy and Kakashi, or Guy and Tsunade. In the finale against Madara, let Sakura take on Guy’s role. It would have been a much better payoff.
Is this NaruHina faggot get paid for defending their ship slop?
>>287329931>Is this NaruHina faggot get paidesl>theirusing gender-neutral pronouns and seething at naruhina in broken english???post your exotic brown tits or gtfo
>>287309000Shippers are like that.
>>287329931>theirYWNBAW
>>287330025No need to, I've already made you butthurt enough.
>>287330053i support narusaku, actuallycan i see your exotic brown tits now
>>287330072>narusakuBruh.
>>287309000Stuff like this has made me not even want to want Bleach. I can tell I’d be coping with fanfiction
Naruhinafags with their victim complex as usual.
I haven’t watched bleach but in a different thread like this an anon told me the black haired girl is barely relevant past the early part of the show. Is that true?
>>287309000Bland ass characters, Hinata and Orihime are both housewives, no surprise here.
>>287309000Because they are wholesome, caring, selfless and traditional.I hate to sound like a women hating incel. But the way men and women act towards fictional heroes is different.If men see a fit, buff and attractive dude they will aspire to be like them.If women see a kind, caring and attractive women they want to tear them down.
>>287328762Because shonen is about action yet healers and people who suck at fighting by definition do not participate in fights. They're here to to wait until a fight is over and provide first aid.Of course there are exceptions (vidya style parties, medic focused shonen, etc) but neither Hinata nor Orihime are it. They are essentially excluded from the scene where all the drama takes place.
>>287330364>If a man sees an ikemen they want to tear them down though. Personally I do not see Orihime and Hinata as kind or attractive, just boring male fantasies. I don't like boring.
>>287321733A lot of it is internalized misogyny that finds an outlet.
>>287330272Kinda yeah. Basically she's just another guy in the party. She does get some romantic moments with Ichigo but they pretty much only exist to make Orihime insecure and then Orihime wins, so.
>>287330411Or maybe the character is just terrible because they only exist to become a sleeve for the main character's cock by endgame, so everyone feels justified in hating these plot tumors.
>>287309048Sakura can go to hell, Rukia is the lost oportunity.
>>287330482This to be honest desu wa
>>287330397>If a man sees an ikemen they want to tear them down though.No normal man gives a single fuck about pretty boys. You're delusional if you think otherwise.
>>287330364I’m just happy it’s easy to tell apart the feminists and fujoshi who act like that and should be shunned.
>>287327294It is very obvious from this post you weren't around (or possibly even alive) for either the original shipwars or the olden days of /a/.Bitches were EVERYWHERE on Gaia, LJ, etc. about this shit in the 00s. Shipper shit flinging really only became a thing here in the 2010s, after the floodgates on newfags finally failed for good.
>>287330492Kek what a terrible lie. Even if I hadn't spent 10 years here watching fujo series and had only been here for the last season I'd know this is wrong just by hanging in Tamon-kun threads.>he's too hot, I can't self insert!Truth is you just project your own self inserting mental illness on girls and assume they work the same way when actually they just want entertaining female characters. Rukia was kind and pretty too, and most girls liked her because she was fun. It would be the same even if she had big boobs or whatever feature moids find attractive these days.
>>287330481Learn to love yourself because nobody else will, you toxic bitch.
>>287330567>ad hominem I knew my post was a trvke but thanks for the upvote anyways
Look what shitnata did to poor naruto....
>>287309000The only haters are the readers who got way too invested in the 'who will win' shitty romance rivalry between two female characters in a shonen manga and picked losing girl.
>>287330272She has some moments in later arcs but she’s less relevant than the captains after Hueco Mundo
How can you even ship NH when most of the time Naruto is simping for Sakura and later for Sasuke? Pierrot even made a movie to justify Naruto liking Hinata.
>>287330596>Pierrot even made a movie to justify Naruto liking HinataAnd only succeeded in making me ship Hinata with the alien kek
>>287330556No mentally stable person "self inserts". You are literally literally retarded, lying, autistic or just speaking in bad faith to try and prove a point.
>>287319158>>287317725>>287318534If the writer had balls Naruto would have had a three way or harem.As for bleach i believe orihime is better than hinata or any girl from the Naruto verse by ten fold. Rukia was more of a friend for ichigo as to the way he treats her like one of her guy friends.
>>287330492/v/ complains about jap vidya guys being too pretty too often
>>287330635If you think I'm lying, I really don't mind. I wish I were.
>>287330578God I hate his small ass head. Fujos had literally figured out every good haircut adult Naruto could have in Sasunaru doujins but Kishimoto went and picked whatever this is instead.Even if Boruto didn't suck this would be reason enough to drop it.
>>287330661Mocking them for being effeminate is not the same thing.>>287330665Okay, so you're just retarded.
>>287330644The GOOD ending…
>>287330713Why am I retarded?
>>287330644ichigo and orhimie had more scenes and moments than naruto and hinata did plus orihimie being one of the main charactersIn the manga. Orihime was the one who convinced Ichigo to save Rukia. So yeah Orihime was more supportive to Ichigo compared to how Hinata was with Naruto
>>287311375>>287311855I'm just glad there's no romance in One Piece look were it is now compared to bleach and Naruto.
>>287310658First time it was universally cool and encouraged to vocalize hating someone.
>>287330713>it's not the same!Kek sure, even when they're muscular or fit, they still complain about Japanese characters not acting according to western ideals of masculinity, /a/ does that too
>>287330831Correct. It's not the same.Find me examples of men (actual men, not trannies, or women pretending to be men) complaining about classical super heroes like Batman and Superman. Or fuck, even more recent ones like Chris Hemsworth's Thor.
>>287330923>capeshitThat brings us back to the main point being westies that demands Japanese media made for the Japanese pander to their western sensibilities
>>287330572>trukeHow? Post caps
>>287329709You proved that anon trying to be interesting instead of supportive and boring is the exact opposite of what you wanted. Sasuga roasties
>>287331114You do realize that "capeshit" only refers to modern leftist tranny super hero trash, right?>Japanese media made for the JapaneseYou mean like Goku, who is a traditional male character?And even if you want to go back way, way further than that. Japanese folklore is full of traditional masculine male characters, like Kintaro.
>>287309048>>287324031as a kid i liked orihime and as an adult i like rukia. what does that make me?
