Volume 50Water Prison Death MatchChapter 468: Eight Tails and Nine TailsStart: https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504Previous thread:>>287299057
Thanks OP. Right on time.
>>287320579RE-ENTER OUR FUARKING HERO
>>287320508>>287320493Garaa making rational decisions better than tsunade.
B&W
>>287320533kisame is so STRONG
>>287320612NARUTO WEE NEED TO TALK!
>>287320469>put together a search party for BeeYOU DIDN'T ALREADY DO THAT!?!? NARUTO ALREADY FUCKING TOLD YOUR MEN HE COULD STILL BE ALIVE
>>287320436how did that lava not start a fire by now?
He was busy having a Kumo moment
random thought I had yesterday, but Kakashi has shown surprisingly little angst over his former student going rogue and being branded a criminal to be killed, hasn't he? we mock Naruto for his gay obsession but at least he cares. Kakashi is like oh whatever, gotta kill Sasuke, I wonder what went wrong with his training
>Compared to giant chakra Evangelions, all mighy genjutsus that can insta-win most fights and the Rinnegan leveling whole villages and reviving the deadThose powers are only available to the chosen 0,001% desu. Regular Uchihashits are not ressurecting crap. Byakugan is the thinking man's dojutsu.
Done!
>>287320812Meant for >>287320564
Wasn't Sasuke shown to be capable of suppressing the nine tails chakra? Why didn't he try that with the 8 tails when fighting Bee?
>>287320805I'd be embarrassed if I were a teacher and I produced a turd like Fecesuke. I can understand Kakashi well.
>>287320493There really isn’t any excuse for Tobi not just teleporting to where Bee or Naruto is and bringing Kisame or Zetsu if he wants company while he captures them. There’s literally zero risk to it.
>>287320814Thank you, OP who always posts B&Ws without a delay!
>>287320571The fuck is a shinobu
>>287320850Probably doesn’t work if the bijuu and Jinchuriki work together. Obito, Madara and Sasuke never tried doing it to Naruto or Bee during the war
>>287320469
is next chapter THE chapter?
>>287320493>>287320508The anime really didn't hit the right comedic notes here, the manga really does it better.
>>287320879Sex incarnate.
>>287320263 >they could do their shared Byakugan-Mind Transfer jutsu thereLike this?
>>287320854He could be Hokage
>>287320806Why is Kisame still being a good pup hunting biju? What's in it for him?
>>287320870Also no excuse for him to not have done it at any point within the past 14 years.
>>287320469psycho face
>>287321070He's just happy to be here.
These dailies are thriving with activity. Throbbing, even. Thanks to the dozens of posters who keep them going.
>>287320870He's not powerful enough
>>287320964>the manga really does it betterIt does?
>>287320638Temari is so cute
>>287320436>the only way to counter the power of seven bijuKind of silly to say that when Akatsuki members were taking out jinchuuriki/tailed beasts solo. Yeah the average shinobi isn't akatsuki level but still, you don't need 100k shinobi to deal with them.
>>287321070The friends he made along the way
>>287321149shikamaru won
>>287321158but Itachi's dead....
In hindsight, Tobi would have 100% been fucked in this war if it weren't for Kabuto joining him at the last second, right?
>>287320618>>287320814thnx OP! Our leader!>>287320805>Uchihashits are not ressurecting Was talking about Rinnegan anon, nothing to do with UchihasYou talk as if kid Sasugay wasn't already above Neji with shit 3 tomoe Sharingan while Neji's eye was already all it could offer, average Uchiha could probably solo 3 Hyuugas that are not named Hiashi, they are that wanked
>>287320612It's the beginning of the end for Sakura...Pour one out...
Hiashi won.
>>287321191Meant for >>287320812
>>287320446I do not know this Katake Kakashi and I do not care to know him.
>>287321203Why is that.
>>287321182He would've had a chance with sauce's perfect susano'o and the gedo statue
>>287320508>>287320520Until Gaara mentioned Naruto is the jinchuriki right there, Raikage must've thought the random kid who came to grovel at him in the woods was a total nobody. No one present at the scene ever said anything more than his name.
>>287320967Trvke
>>287320571>>287320579i wonder what enka-rap is supposed to sound like, enka's probably too slow for it to workhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-JttNMeMNw
>>287320543>we samurai will also participate in this war!Tobisisters... I think we may have bitten off more than we can chew.. This is NOT good.
>>287320571>>287320589Wanonese ahh
>>287321191>>287321225>Was talking about Rinnegan anon, nothing to do with UchihasWell, no giant chakrazords for average Uchiha either.>You talk as if kid Sasugay wasn't already above Neji with shit 3 tomoe SharinganHe wasn't. He could keep up with Naruto that well only because of Rock Lee's speed and cursed mark shenanigans.>average Uchiha could probably solo 3 Hyuugas that are not named Hiashi, they are that wankedAverage Uchiha probably couldn't solo a white zetsu they're such bums.
>>287321070Kisame was in it for the eye of the moon plan. Kind of funny how out of all the "regular" akatsuki members he was the only one who was privy to the real leader and goals
>>287320612sakura kinda cute herestrange place for her little plan though
>>287321182>Tobi + Zetsu + 100,000 Zetsu clones vs the worldYeah he was nowhere near close enough.On that note, if we're counting the strength of summons as strength of the character, Kabuto summoning all those fuckers all at once makes him, in a way, the strongest character in the entire series.
>>287321394Seems weird he would give a shit about Tobi/Madara's ideology but okay
>>287320533Reminder every Kisame and Itachi wank is retroactively also Might Guy wank, because they were afraid of engaging him.
>>287320600So we're still in the era of sage mode actually being a thing Naruto makes use ofEnjoy it while it lasts before he becomes ugly, glowing yellow, Kyuubi mode 24/7
>>287320612uh oh
>>287320420>WE WILL NEXT MEET ON THE BATTLEFIELDNever meets any of the Kages again until the very end
>>287320436>Well, what now?>We form an allied shinobi force>>287320481>In order to stop Madara's operation Tsuki no Me we must keep the eight and nine tails out of his clutchesThere, saved you eight pages of nothingburger dialogue.
>>287320414Why is your work schedule so inconsistent?
>>287321486>Obito shows up to demand the 8 and 9 tails>reveals he doesn't actually have the 8 tails>lets them all know who he is and what he's planning >declares war on them all at the same time>gets all of them to form an alliance against this objectively evil, world ending threat Uhh, what the fuck was the point in doing all this? Why didn't he just yoink Sasuke out of there and leave? This makes no sense at all.
>>287321544He has a plan, bro
>>287321537Why is yours nonexistent?
>>287321544he needs everyone in one place so he can wipe them out in one go
>>287321571>projecting
>>287321238speedreaders are so mentally ill its unreal
>>287321587Why? All he needs is the 8 tails and the 9 tails and then he wins. Why does he need to kill off the Kage? Or even worse, make all 5 of them his enemy at the same exact time? Why would he show up and practically beg them all to work together against him?
>>287321537Warehouse hours. Please understand.
>>287321376Doesn't really change the fact that the Byakugan was strong and wanked as "One of the 3 supreme ocular powers" in the beginning but it's like 3nd in race with 3 cars with a 6 minute diference between the 3nd and 2nd place desu~Unless you count Kaguya, but there she had all the GameSharks, fucking alien bitch
>>287320436Raikage lost a hand because Bee wanted to travel.
>>287321670i don't know, i made that upmaybe he secretly wanted to lose
>>287321687>Bee doesn't get captured or A finds out Sasuke failed earlier than normal>Sasuke still attacks the summit cause he wants to kill Danzo>A doesn't go after him so Sasuke isn't forced to use amaterasu/susanoo too earlyHow much better does he do against the 5 kage or does he still get his shit rocked.
>>287320879>The fuck is a shinobu忍ぶ "shinobu" (a verb form of "shinobi"),Japanese for "stealth, endurance, patience"Same kanji as 忍 "nin" like in ninja: 忍者, literally "person who endures"
>>287321743women make the greatest shinobi because they have to endure the patriarchy
>>287321537>hardworking single mom works overtime to feed her family>durrr just put the files in the thread, sisUseless NEETs
>>287321666?
>>287320589>>287320579>>287320571This earned this guy a cover btw.
>>287320805sasuke isn't the first person he's seen to go down a dead end of a road. eventually he just goes numb to it
>>287320600>Using Sage mode just to waste it outNaruto...
>>287321687you along with >>287307148 are a few chapters behind anon
>>287321375You can always tell one piss art because it just looks bad
>>287321010More like this
>>287320618>>287320814>>287320806Arigatou, OP!
>>287321484the actual madara does, which is who he was larping as anyway
>>287321774The fuck are you on about
>>287321169...a weekly pegging session.
>>287320446>>287320469Why are the leaders of other villages choosing the Hokage? Where's Ao? I'm not joking when I say fucking Sasuke is probably the only coherent character in the manga.
>>287321725>>287321670>>287321570>>287321544>>287321484it's obito we're talking about, of course his plan is silly since he himself is a baka (aka retard)
>>287320612Naruto kun we , we need to talk
>>287320508YOU CAN'T CHOOSE THE HOKAGE! EVEN IF THE LEAF WANTS TO MAKE MOEGI HOKAGE YOU HAVE TO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND SUCK IT UP.
>>287321248Next chapter is responsible for a great deal of Sakura hate.
>>287320520Did Kishi create Chojuro because he was too misogynist to give Hinata the "shy person becomes cool and useful" arc?
>>287320571I don't even remember this guy.
>>287320579I'm pretty sure the Raikage can give Bee a hand with his new enka songs.
>>287321843Always hated the larping part, it's so forced, not the Tobi persona but the >I did this and I remember that I'm Madara HAHAwhen no one could even question his identity like Saucegay or even to himself, it's your thoughts nigga no one is listening, it makes Obito look pretty dumb in hindsight
>>287321537I'm forced to do overtime fairly often. My commute also varies.
>>287320736It cools quickly I guess.
>>287320612It's time
>>287321774Unless her husband/boyfriend died why should I have sympathy for a single mother
>>287320618Kisame has got no powers.
>>287320469CEE KARA HAJIMARU ABCSHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>287321790The Raikage met Kakashi a few chapters back.
>>287320469>>287320716This is really fucking stupid, why did nobody call this out back then?
>>287321855They aren't choosing one but they don't reckon Danzo as a trustworthy authorithy.
>>287320493>Darui and C's faceskek
>>287322146He met Hatake Kakashi, not Katake Kakashi
>>287320589YOU RACKA DISCIPRINE
>>287321454Guy would solo most of the characters in the series.
>>287322099>forced overtime Yikes
>>287322172They are literally choosing Kakashi. Gaara just said his name.If they don't like Danzo, they can get Konoha out or inform whoever is in charge or picking the Hokage what Danzo did. But then can't say "I just like Kakashi better"
>>287322335They probably know that he doesn't have the Jonin vote of confidence.
>>287321734A would probably still fight him since Saus fighting all current Kages need to be a thing. Just for a different reason.
>>287321791isn't it a good thing if someone makes a cover of your song?
>>287322362I don't know but they can't do that. It's a serious offense to Konoha.
>>287322390Yeah but the order and potential locations he fights them would be different. Though you can just say that even though he knows Sasuke didn't actually capture him the Raikage still goes after him first because he's a hot-head and even just knowing he attacked his brother pissed him off.
>>287322335>Gaara doesn't recognize Danzo's legitimacy as HokageTrying this with a military state is just asking for trouble
>>2873211913 tomoes is not that powerful once you remember Sasuke only did that well against Naruto was because of the curse pills continuing buff and Kishimoto genuinely making Naruto even more retarded than he usually is at the moment.Also, lol just fight unorthodoxly.
>tumbleweeds
>>287322827At least sage if you're not saying anything. It's just basic etiquette. You can let the thread drop off once it goes silent.
>>287322434>>287322362>>287322496Forget about politicsThey're the """good guys"""Konoha are the good guysgood guys are in league with good guysDanzo? he's a dirty old man. he's a bad guy. probably smells bad too
>>287320571I like this guy!
>>287320805Kakashi's entire personality is fake. he's supposed to be the 'perfect ninja', the mask he wears both literally and symbolically hides his identity. He always puts on an aloof yet jovial persona specifically to make himself as difficult to read as possible.
>>287321010>>287321830I'd kill for some homoerotic pose for Ino and Hinata.
>>287323268God damn does Ino mog
>>287323430Literally the same face except angry.
>>287321455>>287320600Sage Mode is the coolest
>>287322434From the get go they were suspicious of Danzo and he got exposed "cheating" during the summit, on top of having the sharingan of a Konoha shinobi who died under "mysterious circumstances".
>>287320493This is complete nonsenseHe's fighting the world's army instead of abducting two dudes
>>287320571Can we get some enka spin-off? That'll be more interesting than the fake war
>>287323430I just started watching Naruto for the first time in my life. From episode 3:
>>287322593This. People think it's the tomoe when in truth it's actually the roids.
Also: kekI like him already
>>287323430
>>287320612Sakurasisters… look away…
>>287320612Next chapter, Sakura tells Naruto that sasuke is a lost cause. And that since they’re his friends, they must be the ones who make the decision of either trying to bring him back one last time or kill him. I must confess anon this will be awkward but Sakura will finally get some proper character growth!
>>287323574The anime is way better than the manga imo. But as you've probably heard already make sure you skip most of the filler, I'm sure there's a list or something out there
>>287323484Whatever you say
>>287323611Sex machines
>>287323722You cant refute me.
>>287320805I think He way more affected by it than he lets on but he is a harden shinobi who seen his friends die in battle. I think you just become numb to it. Also it his student not his friend. Jiraya didn’t exactly feel too sad when he realized nagato went down a darker path.
>>287320612Oh...oh no Narutobros. Look away.
Hinata scratching the wall counting the days since she confessed and Naruto didn't answer.
>>287322015Which is because it's a complete character assassination.
Remember, kids, Naruto has enough chakra to fight in a war without stopping; if he wanted to be with his family, there's no way paperwork could stop him.
>>287321791More relevant than 6/9 jinchuriki...
>>287320420Oh no, not another ninja war! Because so many people died in the first 3!>The Memorial Stone is a monument in Konohagakure listing all the ninja who died in service to the village.
>>287324064A lot of people died in the non-maincharacter villages. Which doesn't really matter I guess, because people from those villages are treated the same as the Zetsu army narratively.
>>287320589THE Ponta?!
>>287321829The anime cleans it up
>>287320589
>>287321080Impossible, I've been told that he has powers. Many powers.
>>287324501Meant for >>287321124
>>287321743Come to think of it, is the word "ninja" ever actually used in the manga? It's always either shinobi or kunoichi.
>>287320414ARIGATO, OUR LEADER!
>>287320589Wait so enka translate to fire-fire?
>>287324968Hinata actually looks attractive when she has a personality
>>287325080And that personality in question is?
>>287325115Honestly, anything is an upgrade from >n-naruto kunSo who cares
>>287325175Not her personality.
>>287325306Yeah yeah. Hinata has so much personality outside being a door mat and Naruto's fleshlight. Don't care.
>>287322281Then why didn't he?
>>287325375That's not what personality is.
>>287320533>having biju level chakra is possible without being a jinchuriki>being as strong as a perfect jinchuriki is possible for regular ninja>everything and their mother counters biju (sharingan, uzumaki chains, wood, samehada, arguably Hidan)>Gaara became infinitely stronger after losing his bijuWhat's the point of the biju besides Kurama again?
>>287325527can you "counter" a biju bomb being launched at your village? huh?
>>287325550There are also tons of techniques that are just as destructive as biju bombs, hell Rasengan is equal to one when it needs to be and Suigetsu could block one.Also forgot to mention how training to control you biju is so difficult, basically only one guy that doesn't have maincharacter powers has managed it in history.
>>287320446Funny how the White Fang is still infamous among other villages, but he got publicly humiliated and forced into suicide by his own village.
>>287325601Strange how nothing like that happens during the timeframe of the Naruto narrative.
>>287325375Character purpose and personality aren't the same thing.Do you think Naruto's personality is "MC" or "SAAAAAAAASUUUUUKKKE!!!" as well?
>>287320879A fluid druid.
>>287320612Oh wow, I missed this back in the day. If Sakura hadn't tried this folly, Naruto would have found Sasuke right away with Sage Mode. Pinkshit can go to hell.
>>287320612Oh nonononoStop it, don't waste our time
>>287320618Here comes Kisame to give Killer B a power-up.
>>287325777Sasuke was still in Tobi's pocket dimension, speedreader.
>>287321271He told the Cloud ninjas when they were at Konoha that he was a jinchuriki.
>>287321271If people know Sasuke for lying dead on the ground while Zabuza was defeated they should 100% know Naruto is a jinchuriki, since he used those powers in that very fight (and to a much bigger impact than Sasuke).
>>287325965He could have still used it at any moment in the arc. Not like he was gonna be out of commission for long.
>>287325777Would he have found him before or after he killed Danzo
>>287325080>Hinata's actually attractive when she acts like a cock hungry slutI mean I kinda agree but like damn...
>>287325777Naruto not arriving at the scene in Sage Mode is the reason why Sasuke could escape once more. Imagine if Naruto just got there and one punched him.
>>287326206Many, judging by fanfic.
>>287320493The only reason Obito hasn't yoinked Naruto yet is because the plot demands itHe's had dozens of opportunities alreadyWith B you can at least make the excuse because he's genuinely strong since he seems like the most competent jinchuuriki so far
>>287326278At some point kakashi would use kamui and ruin all his plans
>>287326206Too many to kill...
>>287326278would be easy to justify if he just said that he needed to extract each bijuu in order
>>287326273Fan Fiction?
>>287326399There was soething like that, but of course it only applied to the main character with plot armor, so they can capture all of them in any order, but Naruto needs to be last.
>forced posting hours to reach 200
>>287326555
>>287326573And you'ren't helping>>287326555
>>287326206I'm not much of a pinkfag or a pissfag but I get really thirsty when I think about Sakura's pee
>>287326643You're welcome OPink!
>>287326229>99% blind Sasuke after fighting the 5 Kage and Danzo fighting a well rested Naruto in sage modeThe only thing that would save Sasuke from dying is Naruto not willing to kill his friend.
>>287327186
>>287320469ahh fuck guys I missed the thread chapter of Nart crying like a little bitch. Can someone be a doll and link it?
>>287320707kakuzu is stronger.
>>287320814thanks op.
>>287328388they're all ugly
>>287328388why does shino look like that
>>287328614Women don't matter, lucky Sakura's even there.
I love Hinata's personality!
>>287325485Either because he wasn't present, or he'd need to die to do so.
>>287328807It's such forced conflict, there's no reason Nart can't be there in person
>>287328807who the fuck is this bitch and who are the ugly gremlins?
>>287322335>They are literally choosing Kakashi. Gaara just said his name.What level of reading comprehension are you on?They are relaying a message to a ninja that Gaara personally trusts. So that he can go and tell Konoha that Danzo is an untrustworthy sack of shit and presumably get him deposed.Nowhere, anywhere, is it even remotely implied that they're trying to set him up as the Hokage.
>>287328846it's hinata with a mastectomy
>>287320520>The sword is just on the floor, activatedNot very careful, Chojuro.
>>287328897>bakugan rolls out of his eye socket
>>287328897
>>287320533>even though he's humanyou sure about that?
>>287320805You have to forget how much OOC Kakashi had to be written for Sasuke to leave the village in the first place. He has the dogs that he could easily use to find Sasuke when he left the village, to track him in Orochimaru's hideout, he knew about the curse mark because he's the one who knows how to seal the curse mark and he did it before he started Chidori training with Sasuke (yeah Kishimoto never used Anko for anything). He doesn't care/he's ignoring anything about Sasuke because he doesn't want the audience how bad this writing is
you can stop posting bort, no one cares.
>>287329079even people who can comfortably afford it complain about infaltion
>>287328807>I thought your father would be home tonight...>that's nothing new>He just keeps ignoring you and Himawarifunny, if you only ever followed these threads you'd believe only Sakura would be having this problem>show that Hinata has this problem>OMG IT'S SUCH A FORCED CONFLICT!>STOP POSTING BORT NO ONE CARES!kek
hopefully we skipped power plant day and bridge daytomorrow is confession day
>>287321444He literally got tired of it all. He was tasked with murdering his own comrades and despite his sharky appearance and bad boy attitude deep down he hated the hand he was dealt. Still, he saw his duty as necessary. That is, until Tobi entered the picture and showed him an alternative
>>287329276>Flat>No assDamn Sakura...
>>287320612>record scratch
>>287329119You're conveniently ignoring the 20+ posts he made before that, half of them hating on Hinata. And that IS a forced conflict.
>>287328846You're blind? Hima is a cutie. And Hinata looks fine in that scene.
>>287325375Adding "don't care" after saying some stupid shit doesn't help your case, you know.
>>287329665Since Hinata's fans weren't in charge, Studio Pierrot changed them. They made all the women, except Hinata, look bad.
>>287329999>only lasted 2 and 1/2 minutessasukebros...
>>287325375You reallly triggered the shitnatafags lol
>>287328580We do actually, she kicks both rutos out of the house once.
>>287329007He is
>>287329119Naruto comes home at night and the kids see him in the morning, Sasuke is absent for like a decade in a mission that won't matter.
>>287330179>They made all the women, except Hinata, look bad.Didn't happen
Naruto lost
>>287328807>>287329061>>287328388all bortshart characters look soulless, empty, it's eerie, unnatural, something went wrong here... these are not the people I used to know... there is no one in those images, only lines and colours. grim
>>287320612I feel bad that Lee got roped into this, final nails in the coffin for him here
>>287330815Yes, they did, in every anime filler. Why do you believe a background character in the manga is so popular in anime viewers?
>>287330916It looks like a porn parody
>>287331155People didn't care about Sasuke vs Yoroi, Kishi had to do it, assassinate Rock Lee, Gaara and Deidara characters, all of them died because they were cooler than Saucegay... and forget about Neji too. Forget about everyone BUT Sasuke and his cool brother, SOLO KINGGG
>>287331348Kinda funny how Sasuke and Naruto were supposed to be super young for chunin exams, but then every relevant participant is the same age as them and this is how the adults do.
>>287331731They were just copying HxH there with how a bunch of rookies advanced to the finals in the exam
>>287331895>too many teams passed so they have to do 1 v 1>the final exam is also a 1 v 1>only the guy who purposefully lost passed because the exams were testing... how to be a leader?makes no sense bros
>>287331952Being a leader means you have to win only in 4v1 scenarios.
>>287330855No, her appeal is being gentle yet firm when needed.>how she still dickrides Naruto being away from themShe has to criticize her husband behind his back?
>>287331210>>287330179Sure, you cracked the code. It's not like the other girls received any love in fillers. And it's not like she was popular even before the anime started. Yup, all Pierrot favoritism.
>>287331210Would you care to give an example of such thing happening and elaborate on how that make the other girls look bad rather than this bad faith seething?
>>287331731The 3 rookie teams were all supposed to be super duper prodigies which is why they advanced a lot faster than everyone else.
>>287332022why not do a team vs team tournament if you want to test how people work in teams?? author wants to have a 1 vs 1 tournament but at the same time testing leadership skills when they cut the participants in half with preliminaries... and the people who actually won are still genin, they are teaching them unfairness or that the adults are retards
>>287330748You're not fooling anyone faggot.
>>287330748>4 replies in 10 hours which includes yours
>>287331155You wanna know what's funny? Up until this arc, you could genuinely come to the conclusion that Lee moved on because he didn't show a hint of his previous crush in the Kazekage arc, but then Kishi returns the status quo just to fuck with him.
>>287323522>the Akatsuki took out each Biju one by one with small, quiet groups of 2 for 1-7, 8 if you consider that Bee was all but caught and needed trickery to pry himself loose>now that the Akatsuki is at its absolute weakest it's time to force the entire war to band together and declare war on every single major power all at onceGood lord this is beyond retarded.
>>287330748>triggered them again Oh no. Lol
>>287332620>2 repliesYou must be pretty excited that someone paid any attention to you.
>>287332616>>the Akatsuki took out each Biju one by one with small, quiet groups of 2 for 1-7To be fair, Deidara just flew into the village and blew everything up.
>>287332346In my opinion this was way worse. We had an opportunity to see teams from all over the world, which would let us see a shitload of different elemental forms being used, people from different villages/cultures, and friendships/enemies/rivalries built between the Kakashi trio and groups from each major world power.Instead we got 12 Leaf Genin all the exact same age, 8 of which are irrelevant and get damn near nothing past the Sasuke Retrieval arc, 3 Sound nin who become irrelevant and die, 3 sand nin who actually do fill this role eventually, and the Kabuto group which is 2 faceless jobbers and Kabuto.We could have had a team from stone, waves, cloud, all other countries, and then it would make sense why we don't see them or hear from them in a while, they're halfway around the world. Instead we get 9 other leaf ninja that mostly do fuck all for the rest of the manga save maybe Shikamaru.
>>287332616keikaku doori
>>287332346Editor-sama thought he was cooking (and he was before all those character became dingleberries)
>>287333094Changing the Konoha 11 to some foreign jobbers with no history who won't appear again isn't really the solution.
>>287333094Team Guy, 8 and 10 were all originally supposed to be from different villages until yahagi told kishi to make them from konoha.
Naruto part 1 was really so good that it carried the entirety of shit that is part 2. Naruto became such a stupid, unlikable character. There's not an ounce of cool to him. He's pathetic, unreliable, relying on brute strength and tard rage 99 percent of the time. Easily the weakest MC of the big three. That goes for the story, lore, world building and side characters. All the side chars that get development are unlikable. Sakura is weak, Sasuke is obnoxious, Kakashi is just an aura farmer but really a bad character. The villains are okay but Naruto rarely fights them and when he does, unless he's in one of the op modes, he's worthless. The story took a nosedive, the kaguya introduction plot twist was dog shit. The ending was shit, just an ad for boruslop. Naruto got character assassinated so fucking hard it's pathetic. Overall it's a dogshit series and it's depressing thinking about it with how much potential it had.
>>287333171>foreign jobbersWhere did you get the jobbers part? They could still be just as interesting during the exams (if not more) and then set the groundwork for expanding the scale of the story later.
>>287333171Just don't make them foreign jobbers then. One of the major issues with Naruto in general is that we hear about how the ninja world is rife with hatred, killing, death, conflict, backstabbing, and espionage, yet we see very little of the main cast actually interacting with that world. Building relationships between various world countries, or at minimum introducing representatives from the major world powers would build the world a bit more. For fucks sake outside of the land of waves arc, which set up the story for something much different than it turned out to be, Naruto and the main cast explore very little of this world. They don't have to go on missions of political sensitivity. Follow orders they may or may not agree with/understand.Having these foreign Genin drawing parallels between the Leaf village and others would be thematically way more impactful than "Here's the Konoha 12, none of them matter outside of Naruto and Sasuke!" with crumbs being thrown to the rest of them. They wouldn't have to be major characters if they were foreigners. They could be sparsely used/revisited depending on the arc. Which is what ended up happening anyway with about 8 of the 12 we got.
>>287333208If you hate Naruto so much write your own fanfic to fix it :)
>>287333464if I post my fic here would u read it?
>>287333208I get so disappointed re-reading the Land of Waves arc. It set up the story and the world to be so much more than what we got. Naruto not being the one to kill Haku is where there is an enormous thematic shift in the plot. It would have brought everything full circle.I get even more disappointed after re-reading the Pain arc, which could have been an immense turning point of the manga. Naruto sparing Pain thematically makes perfect sense. Him not capturing him and taking him over to the village, who would invariably kill him, makes a very small amount of sense. Pain killing himself and reviving everyone, thereby absolving Naruto of the consequences of his actions is what kills it. It would have been much more interesting to see Naruto go back to the village, tell them what he did, and have to then deal with their warranted rage. He'd be at best a social pariah once more and at worst declared a criminal for not fulfilling his duty as a soldier, which Shinobi seem to interchangeably be soldiers and civilians and mercenaries of sort.
>>287333595I'd give it a shot unless it's obviously a shitpost. I think any anon can write something better than the standard rewrite slop that is popular on youtube.
>>287333653I'd give it a shot. time-travel Naruto goes back to episode one and fixes his mistakes. Fox is evil but for real this time, Sakura gets cool ninja tools and genjutsu abilities, making a power system that makes sense, Anko does more in the story, absolute kino. should I do it? I have no friends
>>287333653May I interest you in a Yugito shortfic?
>>287333595Sure
>TFW i haven't posted the second chapter of my fic in over a year
>>287333464I did, years ago lol. And I'm still thinking of new ideas for it. >>287333643Land of waves is a better arc than anything that happened in part 2. It's so depressing seeing something great like that then never again reaching that level of quality. Part 2 sucked from the start. Naruto got no growth. That whole pain thing was annoying too, after all that just reset and everyone's alive? So lame. The whole sparing every enemy with talk jutsu is annoying to me though. There's way too much redemption going on in part 2.
>>287333653>>287334102First chapter on Monday. Believe it!!
>>287320618If I was a first time reader I would fully expect Kisame to be offscreened as a comdy gag
>>287335379Kishimoto loves animals, weasels specifically, and his shark friend...
>>287332312As I said, she's a minor character; 50% of her screen time is filler. If you only read the manga, you'll completely forget about her.
>>287332501Considering there's a whole 3 regulars here, yeah, I'd say thats a lot of response lmao
>>287332697>replying again Somebody is sensitive lol
>>287335536There's at least a dozen or two regulars who just read the chapter and post for a little while but not many anons want to use these threads 24/7, probably because the franchise is practically dead
>>287335532Ironic to see Ino fans talking like that.>If you only read the manga, you'll completely forget about her.Except Kishimoto reminds you about her pretty regularly. You'd have to be pretty retarded to claim that her slapping Naruto wasn't memorable. Or her sacrifice against Pain.
>>287335689>Except Kishimoto reminds you about her pretty regularly.kishimoto remind us the otsutsuki quite offen but it doesnt mean that they are good characters.
>>287333208>Naruto part 1 was really so goodNah, it was pretty bad too. Land of waves is the only great arc. Chunin is only good at best (very stupid), the rest isn't.It never had much potential because Kishimoto isn't a good mangaka, period.
>>287335850You think Ino is a good character?
>>287335689He really doesn't. I recall her stalking followed by the chat that can be covered in a single .png which I'm sure you have saved, her ass getting beat by Neji and then the Pain sacrifice (which was selfish and shitty btw). What else did she do?
Buckle up. You-know-who is going to absolutely hit the next thread with a tsunami of posts nonstop with engineered shipping and waifu war arguments and pretend the thread has 100 people in it.
>>287335614>There's at least a dozen or two regulars who just read the chapterLmao. Delusional
>>287335879I put the exams over LoW. it had some problems like the random tree climbing exercise they should know how to do since the academy or how Haku didn't kill Sasuke with a silly excuse "dude he was gentle (assassin) actually"
>>287335945No, she is a terrible character, but I like her design. I dont lie mysafe
>>287336028Haku not killing Sasuke is somewhat believable and power system issues is the least of your problems if you're discussing Naruto past land of waves. We've got Neji discussing state secrets and the humiliation of his village in front of the entire world and political leaders and everyone only cares about whether or not he's going to manage to beat him the other 12 year old or not. This is so fucking stupid man.
>>287336028you must genuinely have like 90 IQ if these are the problems you had with the arc
>>287336061can they even hear Neji?
>>287336133Pretty sure they can, yeah. Even if they couldn't, the referee should actually just disqualify Neji on the spot and maybe slit his throat for what he's doing.
>>287336124Probably less honestly.
>>287335952>I recall her stalking followed by the chatYou recall incorrectly, Naruto stumbled on her accidentally. It's a good moment of the kind we needed more of. >and then the Pain sacrifice (which was selfish and shitty btw)Says tumblr?>What else did she do?Saved Neji from white zetsu during war, defended Naruto from spikes, got Naruto to snap out of Obito's talk-no-jutsu after Neji's death, rallied allied shinobi when Naruto was recovering, fought Juubi clones. Also went with Toneri to save Hanabi, fought his puppets and destroyed Tenseigan together with Naruto but i guess the movie doesn't count for you.
>>287336124so you don't think in those years at the academy they should learn how to control chakra? Sasuke does fireball jutsu but never asked how to learn climb trees, he does it in a couple of hours, and that's good training? next is a fight where this skill is never used?Haku and Zabuza are hired to kill everyone on that bridge and they don't do it because Haku suddenly is a good boy ninja assassin with an angel heart that would never hurt someone. give me a break
>>287336199I'm pretty sure she was stalking. No it was all 3 regulars here saying that during that chapter dump and I agree as one of the 3. Everything else is so minor and irrelevant I don't even remember it at all lol.
>>287336230>so you don't think in those years at the academy they should learn how to control chakra?nobody gives a fuck you retardwhat are you, fucking autistic?>Haku and Zabuza are hired to kill everyone on that bridge....... BUT THEY DIDN'T DO IT??? WHAT A PLOT HOLEguess that answers that question
>>287336271>Everything else is so minor and irrelevant I don't even remember it at all lolShould've said from the start that you don't need genuine answers.
>>287336333>genuine answers>rallied allied shinobi>fought Juubi cloneskek and yea movie? so not the manga? yea doesn't sound canon to me.
>>287336371It's her doing something, didn't say it was hugely important. >yea doesn't sound canon to meKishi considers it canon.
>>287335879Chunin exams is pretty good, although it came way too soon in the story. I mean, we're supposed to think chunins are well above genin level and then you have three kids with barely any skills competing in it. And the latter arcs were fine too, nothing amazing but more than decent. It built Naruto up, it showed off some side characters and it set the stage for something more.Then part 2 starts and Naruto doesn't grow at all, doesn't learn anything new, doesn't become smarter and just turns into a Sasuke whiner. Not to mention how the story tries to paint him as being this great friends with everyone guy when in reality he barely interacted with anyone except his team. It all feels so fake and unwarranted. And it did have potential, if only Kishi actually showed love to his main character and didn't go retarded with the story. The tone shift from part 1 and 2 is so vastly different too. The former is cool, gritty and mysterious, the latter feels more like pg 13 kids show in comparison.
>>287336444yea so minor and irrelevant, bet that puppet loser done similar minor and irrelevant shit. >Kishi considers it canon.his a hack and is a furry that needs to be controlled and pointed in the right direction to make anything half decent
>>287336481>Not to mention how the story tries to paint him as being this great friends with everyoneI don't think it's done more than in part 1.>The tone shift from part 1 and 2 is so vastly different too. The former is cool, gritty and mysterious, the latter feels more like pg 13 kids You're mistaking part 1 up to chunin exams with part 1 as a whole. I guess there was an element of darkness in part 1 but it always came wrapped as a dumb kiddies shonen.I like chunin exams, I'm just saying part 1 is quite flawed as well.
>>287335981cope
>>287336541>yea so minor and irrelevantYour point? I was talking about the moments Kishi wrote to remind readers of Hinata. She's a minor character, what would you have her do.>bet that puppet loser done similar minor and irrelevant shitAlmost crashed the moon. With no survivors! And fought S6P Naruto somewhat better than Madara.
>>287336199>>287336333>>287336444Blessed digits.
These fucking threads could continue for 50 years straight and you'd still find the exact same autists whining and arguing about the exact same ships in every thread until the end.
>>287336544Yeah I'm not saying it's perfect but compared to part 2, it's amazing.
>>287337423Part 2 has decent-ish arcs. The complaints we're making about the current 5 Kage Summit being nonsensical and politics being basically non-existent aren't any different from the shit we'd say about Neji spilling out state secrets in front of the entire world and nobody batting an eye."Part 1 was better" is a reasonable statement, "Part 1 was amazing compared to this" just isn't unless you're willing to disregard all of the stupid shit part 1 while also focusing on it in part 2 somehow.
>>287336676That was back in part 1 grandpa. The current state of these threads is less than 10 users.
>>287337569Part 1 also didn't have more than 15 users.
>>287337569The chapter where Naruto got beat up was pretty active, really the amount of activity in these threads seems directly related to the quality of the chapter of the day
who cares how many people are here? 3 narutobros are enough
>>287337488>Part 2 has decent-ish arcs.Lmao. Literally everything we've seen in part 2 so far aside from the Kazekage arc (which also had plenty of issues) was pure shit. Even the Pain arc which everyone keeps touting as the "peak of the series" was terrible. The assault itself was underwhelming, Naruto only had a few pages of being cool in Sage Mode, and then his fight ends in the most unsatisfying and pretentious way possible. Also, both Tenchi Bridge and Akatsuki Suppression are easily the lowest lows of the series and utter dogshit compared to anything from part 1. I remembered the Hidan/Kakuzu fight to at least be decent before I reread them in this daily, but no, they're fucking terrible, as well.
>>287337779you should read Samurai 8 and laugh your ass off lmao, it's hilariously bad
>>287337779Pain was easily better than shit like SRA. Most of your criticism (outside of Tenchi Bridge at the very least) applies easily to part 1 arcs past chunin (and some even to chunin). It's just not a very good manga.
>>287333208Why are you in a daily about a series that is so shit? force of habit? nothing better to do?
>>287338362>Pain was easily better than shit like SRA.No it fucking wasn't, kek. SRA actually bothered to have all the characters from the arc do something meaningful or be in the spotlight for a while. Even if some characters like Choji or Kiba weren't that well executed, you can at least say that there was an attempt to make them look cool. Compare that to the Pain Assault, where most "fights" are offscreen, both Danzo and Tsunade are just standing by for most of the arc, and one of Pain's bodies gets taken out by Konohamaru of all people, while most of the other named characters from Konoha don't do anything. Or compare something like Neji vs Kidomaru to Hinata vs Pain. Genuinely how can you say Pain was better than SRA, especially after we've all just seen how shitty his arc was.
>>287338770>SRA actually bothered to have all the characters from the arc do something meaningful or be in the spotlight for a whileThey fought their designated jobber in a shitty fight, big fucking deal lmao.None of these fights were any good, including the Naruto Sasuke one.Even if you were to disregard the other good parts of the Pain arc (like Naruto having to process his grief -partly thanks to Iruka and Shikamaru btw-, his training with the frogs and understanding Jiraiya), just the Pain fight being so much better than the ones in SRA would be enough to put it over SRA. It's not even close. The whole Sasuke part being so fucking gay actively brings SRA down.
>>287338770SRA is better if you care about fights and characters looking "cool"Pain is better if you care about themes
>>287337779No, Part 2 does have plenty of good arcs, these threads are just autistic.
>>287320618I'm sure Kishi won't let the same character humiliate the Akatsuki twice in a row...
>>287338927I know you're being facetious but he in fact doesn't.
5KS is unironically better than SRA. Fun fights, stupid but interesting pseudo political shitflinging (not any different from what we had in part 1).
>>287338978We shall see...
>>287333208The hype for part 2 was too big, Kishi was never gonna deliver.
>>287337740Sad
still 232 funny threads ahead, life is good!
>>287335536In 10 hours?
>>287338847Not really when you look at the early themes and style of Naruto. SRA felt like an actual mission and involved the character growth of several characters. The first two arcs are constantly hammering the importance and dangers of missions and how life and death they can be and it feels like that is well represented in the SRA. Them being weaker than the sound 4 helps build on this. I do like the Pain arc, but if feels much more generic shonen than what Naruto was building up to be in part 1. SRA feels like an actual mission that you would imagine the ninja of that world going on.
>>287339519>is 75% of people considered a lot?Idk anon.
>>287321455>Enjoy it while it lasts before he becomes uglyAnon...
>>287339566I'll give you that, SRA feels like some expedition in a dangerous world, a deadly forest where you might get killed. It was pretty lethal too.I wouldn't completely write off the village invasion even if a lot of it was offscreen. It was very deadly and a pretty big event. But I can see someone liking the former more.
>>287338847I consider Kidomaru vs Neji better than Naruto vs Pain, am I biased?
>>287339593The hell are you implying about our hero, punk?
>>287339896>biasedi don't know>wrongI think so. The tactics in Naruto vs Pain sold me a lot more on that fight than "Neji grabs a string and wins lmao". Kidomaru's exposition was good and helped sell the fight but it doesn't make a fight good by itself.
>>287326399Why would that matter? They could have just kept Naruto in a cage and fed him with fish heads until they caught the other guys in order
>>287335945She had a lot of potential in part1 and her immediate introduction in part2 was not bad at all, however
>>287321455Dragon Ball did a lot of good things for the shonen genre but Super Saiyans existence really made almost every shonen mangaka do their own knockoff super saiyan
Where's today's thread, faggots.
>>287340346see>>287321774>>287322099
>>287340320GIWTWM!
>>287338770>Or compare something like Neji vs Kidomaru to Hinata vs Pain>A doomed effort of emotionally compromised girl with no real grasp on tactics or ninja trickery who already resigned herself to deathvs>a genius staying in one place and getting riddled by dozens of projectiles after he already figured out that the enemy is exploiting his dojutsu weakness and then winning through some bullshit Idk man, the comparison is not in Neji's favor.
>>287337488Which arcs are those? The kazekage arc is semi decent but also sucks because Naruto, after three years of training, is completely useless vs Deidara. Sakura fucking outshone him in that arc. After that, what do we have? Sai arc? Dull. The first time they see Uke again? Fucking Naruto hyperventilating cringe. Team Shikamaru vs Akatsuki? Semi decent, minus the cringe of Naruto showing up out of nowhere to one shot Kakuzu with an op technique he pulled out his ass. Also it's funny that that's the first new technique he learned since rasengan. Then you got all the Sasuke/Hebi arcs which are dogshit, him vs Itachi is also meh with Itachi's character turned into muh save the village from coup double agent. Then there's the Pain arc which is alright but the lack of any consequences with Nagato reviving everyone completely ruins it, not to mention Naruto completely ignoring Hinata's existence after what she did. That's just of the top of my head, mind you. After that, there's the Uke in Akatsuki, five kage summit with Naruto grovelling like a bitch in front of A, the Kyubi training and the war. All in all, nothing I would rate higher than even Tsunade retrieval arc. Naruto was cooler taking that punch from Kabuto than he ever was in part 2. So yes, compared to part 2, part 1 eas amazing.
>>287340397We had like 5 people pushing each other aside begging to be the one who gets to dump the day's chapter on time. Where did the rest of them go
>>287340575I'd take 5KS or Pain over SRA or Tsunade Retrieval Arc. You're not wrong about most of your points, though.
>>287321743I hate this ugly bastard so much it's unrealI can't believe they made an edgelord clone of this dead loser in bort and he's actually plot relevant while Tsunade and Oro are mia.
>>287340604Tra I like, actually. Has some good interactions between characters, new techniques and some fights in the end. The summit arc just makes me wanna vomit with how pathetic Naruto is. That whole grovelling on his hands and knees for his boyfriend's fate in front of A disgusts me so much it's unreal. The whole of part 2, whenever Sasuke is mentioned, Naruto turns into the most pathetic little bitch. It's one of the biggest reasons why part 2 sucks.
>>287340558Both were bullshit. Hinata has no reason to be suicidal and Neji didn't need to stay out in the open with trees all around him. Funny how the Hyuga never account for the enemy being far away in their training and don't emphasize speed any more than other clans.
>>287340705Naruto grovelling was bad because of the shitty points he made when he had much better arguments and Kakashi should have coached him much better than this. But the arc is fun and has good fights with the Sasuke Kage gauntlet and the Danzo fight. Also the final part with Team 7.
>>287340783Nah, it's bad no matter what. Naruto shouldn't be grovelling like that. And really, there's no arguments he could make in Sasuke's defense after what he did. Sasuke should have been labelled a criminal since he defected after all, him attacking all the kages is just the cherry on top. Naruto just looked pathetic and no argument could change that. Kakashi is also a shit character I'll say. I mean, he was the student of his student's dad and yet he completely neglected said student when it came to training. And let's not even talk about what a shit teacher he was to Sakura. Also Sasuke being able to go toe to toe with the kages is also mad bullshit. Just another example of Kishi favouring him because there's no way he should be strong enough to survive vs someone like A, let alone multiple kages.
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>>287341025>Sasuke being able to go toe to toe with the kages is also mad bullshitA lot of people say Sasuke is around Kage level when part 2 starts or at least when he absorbed Orochimaru. This shouldn't be too crazy.
>>287341182Sasuke being around kage level at the start while Naruto can't even handle Deidara is total bullshit lol. But yes, it should be too crazy. Just pure on Uchiha glazing on Kishi's part, making him strong for the sake of being strong without any logical growth.
>>287341244If early part 2 Sasuke can hang out with Kage levels then mid/late part 2 Sasuke should also be able to do that. In fact, the only reason Sasuke isn't doing that is because Kages got an upscale with Killer Bee raping Taka. If we want back before the fated Bee rape nobody would doubt Sasuke could take on a jinchuriki or a Kage.
>>287341182>Sasuke gets trained by a Kage level shinobi.>Becomes kage level>Naruto gets teained by a Kage level shinobi>utterly devolves in skill and temper
>>287341244He literally got BTFO by bee and the Raikage while Naruto one shotted Kakuzu and got useful powerups. This “Uchiha wank” makes no sense
Where the fuck is my chapter
>>287341244Orochimaru and Kubuto were just better trainers than Jiraiya
>>287338849>themes and suchIt doesn't matter what themes you're trying to convey when you're as bad a writer as Kishimoto.
>>287341182whatever power he gained from absorbing Oro is gone now. and he lost everything the curse mark gave him too. if not for Mangekyo Asspulligan he should now be at best around end of part 1 CM2 level.
>>287341443What was Sasuke going to do? We know he doesn’t want to kill them
>>287341555just a little prank
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>>287341288Would make sense if Naruto could as well, otherwise it's just glazing. >>287341386One shotted a weakened Kakuzu with an overpowered technique he basically pulled out of his ass. The whole kage bunshin training method is bullshit. And he only got two other power ups when the story literally demanded it because he'd be too fucking weak otherwise. He went on a three year training mission with a fucking sannin and came back dumber with no new techniques learned. Not to mention how emotionally volatile he became considering how often he loses his shit. Meanwhile Sasuke can go toe to toe with kages. And then you also have sharingan becoming this godly eye that can do anything and everything. Tell me how that's not wank?>>287341443Nah that's bullshit, otherwise you wouldn't have Minato. It's just that Kishi gave more of a fuck about Sasuke than he did about Naruto.
>>287320590Kek, based
>>287339896Neji vs Kodomaru was my favorite fight in SRA. Slightly better than Naruto vs pain
>>287340604Pain maybe. 5KS is dogshit compared to anything in Part 1
>>287325601Outside of the scope of the current Naruto setting the Leaf Village was basically carried by the First and then either squandered generation to generation by shutty leadership or the new blood gets shanked, isolated or harassed into suicide. The fact that a Kakashi who came from no clan of note and a Nara made it into the Kage position is only through sheer happenstance.
wen next pag
>>287340143>She had a lot of potential in part1Such as?
>>287343597No the same anon but to be honest, her ability is more useful than any of Naruto's. In any other manga or series, she'd be a menace. But, of course, Kishimoto doesn't like complex plots.