Is L a well written smart character?
>>287337002He's an autist
There's no such thing as a "smartly written" braincrack character. Genre for pseuds by frauds who wish they were intelligent.
>>287337002yes>b-butyes
>>287337002he's Japan's Sherlock (TV)
>>287337002>Figures out Light is Kira>Reveals his identity to Light and keeps telling him he's Kira.What was he hoping to get out of this strategy? Why couldn't he just secretly gather evidence linking Light to Kira?
>>287337002he is a good character, not like near
>>287337002No. He figured out Light is Kira and then instead of just getting proof he played right into Kira's hands. He detained Misa over a hunch, why couldn't he do that to Light and then he wouldn't have had the time to come up with the plan to switch notebooks. L is smart but he couldn't see past his own emotions, he was obviously in love with Light.
>>287337002He was better written than Light because in order for him to make progress he couldn't rely on a magic notebook. I felt the story slipping when they introduced the Shinigami eyes.Hopefully Obata+Ohba have some good future works. I didn't enjoy Platinum End.
>>287337642L saw Kira is childish and playful, much like himself, and wanted to feel a closer more intimate relationship.
>>287337853Is that why L wanted to wash Kira’s feet uwu
>>287337869That was much more horny, he wanted Light to fuck him at that point because he knew their little game was about to end.
>>287337002I hear constantly the manga does a much more thorough job of explaining L's logic and such, but even without that he's pretty succinct and logical in the anime. It's Near who sorta just bullshits his way to victory with little/no explanation, L is done pretty fine imo. >>287337642The idea was to mindfuck Light because L knew that kind of overt challenge would drive him to take risks and potentially expose himself. To his credit, it worked, he just couldn't account for all possible things that could come back and bite him in the end.
>>287337815>He detained Misa over a hunchHe didn't do that, he detained after he got solid proof she was linked to the Kira tapes.
>>287337815It wasn't over a hunch, he had plenty of proof that she was second Kira, or at least sending videos on his behalf.There's even a scene where he's going through the evidence.
>>287338006>>287338007Yes I remember the hair or whatever evidence he had, but that was still not an excuse for not detaining Light when he can see he's the only possible culprit in the whole country.
He dips into the bullshit zone sometimes. "Oh, I'm actually also the second-best and third-best detective in the world too." But Light gets away with a lot more, so it's not too bad.
>>287338073...but he had no evidence, and as a lawful good character he needed it before doing anything.Also, he wanted to know how can he kill people remotely.
>>287337950This. Near explains during the final confrontation that L needed indisputable evidence.
>>287338093That actually makes sense. If you're the best detective, then you probably have a lot of enemies. Some of them will want to find you, so they'll contact next best detective. And if that spot is also taken by you, then you're safe.
>>287338153He had evidence the issue was L is a Private Detective. He doesn't have jurisdiction.
>>287337002He comes close.>>287338093You're right that he bullshits sometimes (less than Light) but the fake identities are a believable move.
>>287338093That's basically just controlled opposition, though.
>>287338354He didn't have hard evidence, only circumstantial evidence. He was working with the Japanese police and FBI, he had plenty of jurisdiction.
>>287338093You don't make a good case. If he's the best, he can definitely make a second-best and third-best proxy to shield himself.
>>287338417Surprised to see Near beat L.Also, what's so bad about Shikamaru? I don't remember him being a keikaku man.
>>287338552Ignore the question, I misread the caption
>>287338552I guess it's because the worst "he just fucking knows" Near moment is him pinpointing Mikami, but in the manga there's a lot of setup for it so it doesn't feel like magic. Other than that Near makes pretty rational choices.L has some smart moments but he makes some weird irrational choices that backfire on him. That's how he dies btw.
>>287337002he's the 4chan detective
>Hey Light, I know you want to clear your name and help your father. How about you come living in my hotel for a few weeks, without TV? You're still getting entertainment, just no way to watch the news or read newspapers. You're in?It's really that simple.
>>287338651then who's the hacker known as 4chan?
>>287338673Mello
>>287338652Light is more interested in catching Kira than clearing his own name. Even innocent memorywiped Light wouldn't agree to that deal
>>287338990Clearing his name is the first step to catching Kira. I'm sure he'd do it to at least help his suffering dad. Just chill for a week or two.
>>287339028No, as soon as Light gets his memory wiped he thinks the whole self-imposes imprisonment thing is stupid and he's upset that he can't be helping the investigation while innocent people are dying. It wouldn't be difficult for Light to turn down that proposal while maintaining his innocence, L himself thinks the situation is bizarre when Light proposes it and can't make heads or tails of why he would be so desperate
>>287339099He thinks it's stupid because he remembers himself saying "man... i might be Kira in my sleep...." which obviously sounds stupid, not from the perspective of L saying "look man all evidence is against you and this is really messing up the investigation, the only way we can fix this is by having you chill for two weeks in a room without TV"
>>287338417norman is not a intelligent/well-written character, mainly because the show declined a lot
>>287337002NoIf he was actually smart he'd have anyone with a >25% probability of being Kira immediately killed in secret
>>287339139It would make sense for them to forcefully detain Light (other than it being illegal and against L's style). But from an innocent Light's POV, no it would not make sense for him to agree to sequester himself, he is actually an extremely valuable investigator when he's trying. It's almost like asking L to step away from the investigation, it's a lot bigger deal than you're making it out to be.
>>287339211>he is actually an extremely valuable investigator when he's trying2 weeks work of a single good or great investigator is meaningless when trying to solve a case as huge as the Kira one. This is an investigation that will span months or even years at best. Realistically there would be millions of people on the job, not 1, not 10, not 1000.On the other hand, verifying that one of the main suspects (based on the best detective on the world's investigation, mind you) is NOT Kira is extremely valuable for the investigation.
>>287339294Even if you somehow talked innocent Light into it, normal Light wouldn't agree to it. The character he presents himself as to L is a flawed character in its own right, with a bit of egocentrism and a desire to beat his accusation by catching Kira and being the hero, not by cowering away in a hotel room. It wouldn't be out of character for him to refuse the arrangement.
>>287339436Light could refuse, it would be his right but this would start giving away his game. His father would be less inclined to defend him. Honestly it shouldn't even be a choice in the first place, they should've just took him there and not given him a say. That's the only way to make sure, and making sure is potentially worth millions of man hours and thousands of lives. You just DO IT.
>>287339528>Light could refuse, it would be his right but this would start giving away his game. His father would be less inclined to defend him. Again, no, it wouldn't move the needle at all because it would be an entirely in-character decision for him.>Honestly it shouldn't even be a choice in the first place, they should've just took him there and not given him a say. Of course, but this is Death Note and L is an unreasonable person>That's the only way to make sureNo, it wouldn't "make sure", if Light passed the test L would still be unreasonably suspicious of him anyways, just like we see in the manga. Did you even read it?>millions of man hours?
>>287339635>it wouldn't move the needle at all because it would be an entirely in-character decision for himWhether or not it'd make L go "he's 12% Kira now instead of 8%" is less relevant than the fact now Light's father has a very good reason to shut the fuck up instead of trying to emotionally blackmail L like he did when they took Light in back when they had circumstantial evidence.Which is also an issue, actually, why did they give him 24 hours of prep time when they had circumstantial evidence? That was stupid.>No, it wouldn't "make sure", if Light passed the test L would still be unreasonably suspicious of him anyways, just like we see in the mangaIt might not drop the odds to 0% but it would at least DRAMATICALLY lower them. Because Light being Kira while passing this test without having prep time means somehow Light either has other people killing for him right now and had this setup before they got to him, making him less of a factor in the investigation.Light didn't pass that test in the manga. He passed another very different self imposed test with 24 hours of prep time. Very very fishy.
>>287339635>millions of man hoursMight have been a bit of a hyperbole here but this is a very very long investigation and Light being Kira (or not) is going to be a big part of this. If it stays up in the air then that's a lot of resources lost. Basically Light's time is worthless compared to the time and effort he's wasting by refusing this. Light's father might not have the legal authority to force him into this but even he would see that Light refusing this is harming so many people. For every hour that L isn't wondering whether Light is Kira or not, that's like 5 lives saved.
>>287339730>>287339804I'm not gonna try to pass it off as 100% the same test, but if we're talking about the part of the story before they find the journal and see Shinigami then it's a moot point. The murders are carried out through esoteric and inscrutable means, and the murderer certainly is aware of the investigation squad and would potentially stop killing people in order to fuck with them. There are way too many unknown factors, and in fact it's likely Light would be able to pass the test anyway with the resources he has available to him.Setting all of that aside just about the only one allocating serious resources to investigating Light is L, and I am of the mind that Light passing the test would not change his mind anyway. Therefore, from the perspective of a hypothetically innocent Light who is expecting himself to pass the test, he should think it's a waste of his valuable time.
>>287337002None of the characters in Death Note are well written.
>>287339865L is the leader of the investigation that can save thousands, millions of lives. If Light can stop himself from watching TV and going out for 2 weeks and focus on homework or something then he'd serve a great service to one of the most important people in the world doing arguably the most important thing in the world right now (when they catch Kira they'll prove magic exists, that stuff is crazy)just DO IT
>>287340009pros>??? (L is still suspicious anyway)cons>Light, a supergenius who is proven to be able to catch Kira, has to step away from the investigation while thousands of people die>Kira can now have Light whacked by doing a little trolling and slowing down on killing newly discovered criminals for a couple of weeks
>>287337815Wasn't that the whole point?He had to discover then prove the existence of the Death Note based on observing the outcomesHe could have executed Light in the first 4 or 5 episodes and probably gotten away with it but then the series would be boring and we wouldn't be here talking about it 20 years later
>>287340095>Light, a supergenius who is proven to be able to catch Kira, has to step away from the investigationLight isn't even in the investigation in the first place. He wasn't at that point and honestly he shouldn't have been ever the moment he became a suspect. Actually his father should have stepped out for conflict of interest.>Kira can now have Light whacked by doing a little trolling and slowing down on killing newly discovered criminals for a couple of weeksThat'd imply Kira knows what's happening which is another whole can of worm. They're not going to kill Light, and based on what happens next they can react accordingly. If Light stays locked up and Kira stops killing but Light isn't Kira then it's sad but that's how it is. Maybe they can let Light out but supervised and see how things evolve. There are many ways to handle that, and they're all better than "just don't test it and let Kira do whatever".>??? (L is still suspicious anyway)Much less so. L himself said that if Light was killing without showing sign of it during the cameras, that could mean Kira was an actual god. And yet they weren't even monitoring Light outside. If they did that in stricter conditions L would really start to think either Light is not Kira or Kira Light is a god and it doesn't matter anyway.
>>287337002He's a character made to look smart but written by an idiot, written by a smart author.
>>287338552>>287338417Only Mayuri belongs in the last column. The rest can at least hang in the middle.