why was this page so controversial back in the day?it makes sense to me
It's funnier in black and white
>>287382608Because the fanbase was basically only 15yo kids at the time, who could not think objectively and either hated Sasuke regardless of what he did, or loved Itachi and could not accept Sasuke not following on his steps.But it's really stupid, imagine your brother enters a cult, is brainwashed and kill himself in honor of the cult leader. What would you do? Try to get the cult leader in jail? Or help him have a happy life because that's what your brother wanted so you need to respect his wishes? In Sasuke's eyes, what Itachi went through was similar to that.
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>>287382608Sasuke is the worst part of Naruto but he was right on this
>>287384243Yeah reading it in the dailies it's much easier to sympathize with Sasuke, at least in the post-Itachi/Kage Summit parts. Konoha brainwashed and psy-op'd Itachi into killing his entire clan because it'd be more convenient for them if he did, and to their credit, Itachi was retarded enough to go along with it. I think anyone in Sasuke's shoes would say that institution may as well not exist built on that kind of lie, and it's better to burn it all down.My gripe, then and now, has always been that the little retard (Sasuke) just goes along with whatever he hears most recently. The guy has 0 agency, if you can catch his ear at the right time he's gonna believe whatever you say and alter his life goals. You'd think Obito genjutsu'd him but no he just accepts the whole story.
>>287384317And at the end too the 5 kages need to go
>>287384347>The guy has 0 agency, if you can catch his ear at the right time he's gonna believe whatever you say and alter his life goalsThat's how Sakura got him btw.
>>287382608This chapter came out after two years of Sasuke mogging the fuck out of Naruto and self-inserters were looking for any reason to despise him
Naruto defeating Pain and Sasuke defeating Itachi felt like the end of their personal narratives. From then on end until the end of the series, they're just going through the motions and getting jerked around by the plot until they have their plot-mandated final battle to end the series.
>>287385166He was right again
>>287384678The way people treated naruto after pain kinda pissed me off considering that he already did something equivalently important when he beat Gaara all the way back in part 1 and nobody gave a shit back then.
>>287385166>>287385328he wasn't wrong. just a little retarded: Naruto is great friends with most of them and Tsunade is basically his adoptive grandma, he may as well have just skipped this and started the fight
>>287385521He still liked Naruto to honor him a fair fight
Yeah...sorry
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>>287386178Never compared megatron to that faggot sasuke
>>287382608Makes sense after the series ended but at the time when it came out it seemed like a lot. Like why all of Konoha, why not whoever gave the order?We now know that Uchiha are mentally unstable and that Konoha was always founded on corruption so Sasukes behavior makes sense NOW
>>287385166Now this felt like it came out of left field. I understood him but man it just came so suddenly.
>>287385512Nobody relevant saw him do that. The actual village was being overrun by terrorists and Orochimaru was on everybody's mind. Nobody really took the weapon that Gaara was seriously. Pain nuked the village and got way more kills and things destroyed than the sound ninja.
>>287384347It also doesn't help that its extremely blatant how tobi is playing him here so sasuke doing exactly that is all the more frustrating. But yeah when I reread I understood better why he did it but like you said he kinda always ends up going with whoever points him in a direction
>>287386408Because It was not only someone that gave the orders that killed his family it was the nationalist brainwashing of the village with the whole Hokage system and le will of fire that convinced a "good" person like Itachi do something so horrible and Hiruzen allowed it
>>287382608>kills Deidars>fucks up Orochimaru>kills Danzo's greatest soldier>kills Danzo>Beats Kabuto's ass>still steps in to help end the war>has been a net negative for the akatsukiWE EXIST TO DESTROY KONOHA
>>287386530We had yet to meet the four Kage in edo tensei. Where Sarutobi admits he fumbled, Minato admits he did nothing on the issue nor even showed any interest. The assumption was still in the air that MAYBE Hiruzen didn't know or that there was some reason that made Hiruzen give the order or that we still were missing a piece of the puzzle. Heck some people theorized that Asuma could be Obito or had so many schizo theories that no one could really just say "Yeah Sasuke destroy the leaf!!!". We just didn't know and Tobi wasn't the most reliable here I mean we barely knew if he really was Madara. For all we could know here maybe Tobi manipulated the leaf into doing what they did. Also at this moment of time we had yet to learn about Shisui and his eye plan that was thwarted by Danzo. Itachi had an original plan(which involved brainwashing). Itachi did what he did because he saw no other logical option available with his "wisdom". Ultimately, Sasuke says some crazy shit just based off of what one crazy ass mysterious Uchiha says.
>>287386707Sasuke had confirmation on Itachi's last moments there it was clear to him that Itachi did what he did not for the reasons that originaly seens and Obito's explanation kinda fits from what we seen in the Sasuke flashbackStill he didnt need to torture Sasuke though
>>287384347>My gripe, then and now, has always been that the little retard (Sasuke) just goes along with whatever he hears most recently.This is literally his character though. Anyone who is strong and tells sasuke that X can help him get stronger, he is instantly slobbering over their dick. Its how kakashi got him to begrudgingly work with a team and later to accept his tutoring. Its how orochimaru got him. Its how itachi got him. Its how tobi got him.
>>287386595Sasuke isn't the brightest ninja around
This wasn't controversial. All the controversial moments came afterwards
>>287390058>2009Where does the time go
>>287384252>>287385166Never read Naruto but Sasuke seems like a properly fleshed out character unlike most of his clones. Am I right?
>>287382608This is the literal reveal of Sauke's magekyo sharingan and it looks liek trash. Whoever colored this should be fired.
>>287385328>>287385521>>287387643Is there any group of people more retarded and obnoxious than sasukefags? Besides other uchihafags, that is.
Im going to dump a doujin here Its an alternate ending of shippuden were sasuke ends up winning the final fight with Naruto and goes full communist dominating the entire shinobi world
>>287384347>The guy has 0 agencyUntil the meets with the previous Hokage
>>287390592Make a seperate thread.
>>287386408Hatred is irrational. When people build happiness on the foundation of your suffering it tends to make you less charitable toward them
>>287386442>learn that Hashirama and Madara started the current system and sees how it failed everyone >learn that shinobi warrior culture was molded by a demon>see absolutely no reason to continue any of thisSasuke was violently sane in this moment.
>>287384347The actual problem is that you're supposed to think Itachi was right and that genociding the Uchiha was good and that Sasuke himself agreeing with it is a good thing.
>>287385166He was right though, at least the ones that were part of the decision to kill his family.
>>287382608>Big brother died working as a double agent for Konoha, is arguable the most loyal Konoha soldier because of what he had to do>Sasuke decides to shit all over that by wanting to destroy Konoha because Konoha hurts his feelings
>>287391854Konohagakure is just a meat grinder that ate his family. It should get nuked again.
>>287391854>nooooo you can't disagree with your brother murdering his entire family because figures of authority told him to
>>287382608>chapter 3: my goal is to kill Itachi>400 chapters later: I finally did it, but the fight was trash, Itachi was holding back the entire time, and it was a big prank, and Sasuke suddenly goes "He was the coolest brother anyone could have">the fans: hmm so we read 10 years of this shit to find out it was a lie, and then his goal changed.womp womp
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>>287382608>why was this page so controversial back in the day?you know the answer: terminally online weebs just love to turn everything into a meme. guys that watch anime just to talk about them are glorified tourists that don't really care for an honest conversation. everything is an excuse for shitposting. 90% of weeb discussions here or r3ddit or any other online space is pointless shitposting, engagement baiting etc
>>287393374there are two type of anime fans. ONLY two.Those who love banter and don't treat it seriously and people like digibro (don't look what happened to him) who watch CGDCT and act like they read 5000 pages of SchopenhauerI prefer the first side
>>287393446>Those who love banter and don't treat it seriouslythis is cope though. i maintain that terminally online weebs are tourists. i don't take anime too seriously but i watch anime for the fucking anime itself. not some faggy online group. i still remember anons bitching about anime movies being canon and i was like, are you guying tripping, this is unprecedented level of animation. and the answer was: nooo, anime is all about discussion, what's the point if the movie leaks half a year later.
>>287393539>anons bitching about anime movies being canon and i was like, are you guying tripping, this is unprecedented level of animationanimation is one part of anime not the focus for many people... how can you not care about canon or noncanon
>>287393690>animation is one part of animelol.>how can you not care about canon or noncanonenglish comprehension. obviously i care about canon. and i want to experience it in the best way possible. i don't prioritize faggy discussion in exchange of good animation. im talking about anons who did not like the fact that anime movies are adapting canon material.
>>287386595>>has been a net negative for the akatsukihe literally secured a tentacle that allowed tobi to summon the 10 tales.just saying.
>>287393764>im talking about anons who did not like the fact that anime movies are adapting canon material.so people don't like watching 4 episodes of glorified filler and you're mad about that? why not make a canon story?
>>287386355Megatron can be a bitch depending on his incarnation. His current incarnation in comics is a loser who spent ages getting buck broken by Quintessons.
>>287391786Yeah, Sasuke accepting information he can't verify too readily is a normal character flaw, particularly for a teenage boy. He improves later on. What you're talking about is Kishimoto serving up insane person logic, twisting his characters into agreeing, and expecting the readers to go along with it.
>>287382608He looks like a black cat.
Reminder to gas all Uch*has
>>287390254He's not too bad on his own, the issue lies more with very empty pants on head retarded worldbuilding.
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>>287396337>Sasuke (who has seen A LOT at this point), Orochimaru, Hiruzen, and Minato all shitting themselvesHashirama must have been casually exceeding 6-tail Naruto in chakra.
>>287382608https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOmdRAQJ1ykshit character
>>287396834that intro is kino and iconic as fuck DOE
>>287386178Nah Megatron was right to try and kill that guy, Optimus was a bitch for no reason