King will return soon.>b-but my favorite isekai is better>b-but my favorite fantasy is better>b-but my favorite native isekai is betterIt's not. Never was.
>>287391627>Timestops>Casts instant death that bypasses all defenses and immunities
Mushoku and overlord posters are so embarrassing....
>>287391667Yeah, but I give Overlord a pass because the MC is a spooky skeleton.
>>287391627only the first season was goodthe team left for penalty hero and only the trash were left for the second seaspnthird season is most likely going to be even worse
>>287391667There’s difference between one being good all the way and another being good only for a few volumes until author decided to kill his own series because he just could and ran out of ideas.
>>28739162756,000,000 That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime40,000,000 Apothecary's Diaries31,000,000 "A Certain" series30,000,000 Sword Art Online25,000,000 The Irregular at Magic High School22,000,000 Slayers20,000,000 Danmachi: Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon?20,000,000 Haruhi Suzumiya series17,000,000 Mushoku Tensei: Jobless Reincarnation - I'll Seriously Try If I Go to Another World14,000,000 Overlord13,000,000 The Rising of the Shield Hero13,000,000 Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World-12,000,000 Sorcerous Stabber Orphen11,500,000 Full Metal Panic!11,000,000 Ascendance of a Bookworm: I'll do anything to become a librarian10,300,000 Welcome to the Classroom of the Elite10,000,000 Goblin Slayer10,000,000 Konosuba: God's blessing on this wonderful world!10,000,000 My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, As I Expected.10,000,000 Record of Lodoss War10,000,000 Fortune Quest
>>287391627No
>>287393638Going to surpass crapRUHI, boremachi after s3. Can’t wait.
>>287391627Why is Kirito here? SAO isn't Isekai.
>>287391627Reddit anime.Reddit thread.>b-butNo.
I need more MT in My life.
>>287391656>uses eye of foresight to see him casting>uses disturb magc>can't cast
>>287391627Attack the other Isekai's but leave Konosuba out of this manEveryone enjoys a fun time of konosuba with fun MC that would be Rudeus friend no doubt
>>287399188>SAO isn't IsekaiIt is Isekai in everything but name, the "other world" is just a game but the setting functions almost the same as an actual another world, in fact SAO greatly helped boost the popularity of several traits in modern Isekai.
>>287404149I don't even know why faggots disagree it's an isekai, and so fervently too as if SAO not being part of the isekai group makes it suddenly not be trash. The dude was trapped inside a fantasy world with game-like mechanics twice now. This is like 70% of isekai>"But he isn't trapped anymore and it's just him playing the games now!!"Yeah, but that was the original premise and why it got famous, no one cares what happens afterwards.
>>287404050Nope, Konosuba is the exact same shit, on the surface it parodies Isekai but at the end of the day it is following the same overplayed cards mordern Isekai do, it is just poking fun along the day.Kazuma is a loser, but he still gets his way when he really tries, Kazuma is surrounded by eccentric girls who aren't his harem and by all means are kind of terrible girls, still gets plenty of scenes where they do act like a harem for shits and giggles, no matter crazy they can get Aqua, Darkness and Megumin are the standard hot anime girls. Kazuma is no date material, eventually gets Megumin to see past that, etc.
>>287404293>following the same overplayed cards mordern Isekai doWhat exactly does it follow besides the Harem thing? Cause a lot of its fights boil down to>Explosion>actually outsmarting the fuck of enemies>Enemies are literally memerable with their own characters>Kazuma is fucking weak but plays his cards rightlike i don't see it following anything much of other isekai's since its more out there with poking fun at all of them>but he still gets his way when he really triesA lot of the time he does not get his way when his party fucks everything up somehow. The most he gets his way is when he outsmarts the dumbasses around him (Besides megumin since she is pretty intelligent as well with deception) kinda why they're almost made for eachother.>Aqua, Darkness and Megumin are the standard hot anime girlsEhhh i guess with aqua
>>287391627Based
>>287404293>Kazuma is a loserand he declines this at every turn when someone says it even telling them "fuck you" to their face or revenge>Still gets his waybarely>still gets plenty of scenes where they act as a haremThey're all friends with the Explosion girl being the outlier as his girlfriend/wife, darkness got reject and aqua is not in love with Kazuma this is what a friend group looks like and acts>Megumin, aqua and darkness are standard hot anime girlsSo is sylphie, roxy, eris?>Kazuma is no date material eventually gets megumin to see past itCause they actually enjoy eachothers company more than anything else, a realistic relationship
>>287404188SAO takes false credit for literally everything even though it's simply a bona-fide 2000s "survival" story that became very popular, though it's somehow both overrated and overhated at the same time. What it is given false credit for is: 1. "inventing" black haired protagonists even though they just look like the average Japanese without the battle-shounen/kid-show main-character halo of colorful hair. 2. "inventing" OP MCs even though Kirito is a jobber 90% of the time, yet everyone pretends every SAO scene is just that one scene of the PK noobs doing 0 damage to him or Kirito using totally-not-lightsabers to mow down a bunch of randos in the early part of the GGO arc. 3. "creating the isekai trend" despite the fact that SAO was self-published and not on an aggregator and only took off due to the author's personal connections to the most famous and influential editor (Miki) of the most famous and influential LN brand at the time (Dengenki Bunko) which no WN authors would ever be able to use as as inspiration of "maybe I can do that too!", instead it was quite obviously Log Horizon published on narou and picked up by Enterbrain as an LN-series who then also picked up Overlord and Youjo Senki that started the isekai trend as it was quite obviously not a one-off thing with Log Horizon but kept leading to more LN adaptation contracts until it snowballed and other publishers also started to dip their toes into this publishing system. So the problem isn't even with SAO, the problem is with these strange """people""" trying to associate SAO with isekai for whatever retarded reasons they do.
>>287404580>Cause they actually enjoy eachothers company more than anything else, a realistic relationshipNah. In a realistic relationship when two people are so widly out of each other's leagues there is always some interest involved like money or the dude having status. Kazuma is portrayed as a NEET perverted loser and not at all handsome and he is barely competent. Despite this, Lalatina who is some hot, strong noble girl falls for Kazuma beyond the "She loves scumbags" meme and Megumin too. I don't think there is a problem with this btw, but portraying it as if Konosuba is "realistic" is a fucking terrible argument here
>>287404785>Kazuma is a neet pervert loser and not at all handsome and barely competentso 1. he is competent as fuck considering he would've cleared the devil king with a normal party and without aqua much faster, his ways of using basic little spells no one else does, and able to make money with stuff from his world that anyone with a brain would do too2. he is a neet pervert loser but no shit thats the extra gag to his character >Lalatina who is some hot, strong noble girl falls for Kazuma beyond the "She loves scumbags" memeYes cause thats still her ideal person either way along with the fact Kazuma took in these retards that no one else would adding more to her feelings while saving her from alderp.>Megumin tooMegumin is literally treated as an outcast by her friends, flat, none of the other fucking neets of her village were into her, hell her 'friends' outclassed her with magic and beauty as she decided to go be obsessed with Explosions.>portraying it as if Konosuba is "realistic" is a fucking terrible argumentI'm not saying konosuba is realistic i said the way the relationship happened is realistic. If my wording got you confused my bad, but konosuba is not realistic just how the relationship happened.
>>287404293Megumin is a loser girl jealous over the stacysAqua is a drunk retard Darkness is the only Stacy yet total rapebait cause it's her fetish
>>287404785NTA, but I always had the impression that Kazuma had a natural talent of being a tardwrangler, he was just surrounded by either normal or better people in his previous life, so his talent on this front never had a chance to shine. Well... that and the fact that he needs pressure to be at his best, having too much leeway brings him into his "NEET mode" where he fails to do anything productive. Despite having been a NEET he is also surprisingly sociable as one would expect a NEET to have the level of sociability of Yunyun instead, so Kazuma is all in all actually pretty decent but his first impression in the story was the worst and people are seemingly unable to see beyond that.
>>287392509MT was never good though, it was just clever
>>287391627Get Aqua away from this fucking faggot, i do not wanna hear how "good" Rudeus is he actually considered getting fucked by another guy.
>>287404972I didn't mean Konosuba itself is realistic, I'm referring to konosuba being realistic in that context of relationships, which is what you said. Realistically, neither would fall for Kazuma, at least based on what we're told about him. He'd be a really good friend, but that's about it.>>287405120 >Despite having been a NEET he is also surprisingly sociable as one would expect a NEET to have the level of sociability of Yunyun insteadOnly if he was an autist or very socially crippled or something. Some people like that are just antisocial, not necessarily awkward, though both do end up going hand in hand often. I don't even think he is that bad, but being "not that bad" isn't enough IRL most of the times. People are a lot more vain and superfluous than in anime.
>>287405447Ah okay, well have to agree to disagree because it really isn't always about money or much of beauty for a relationship though kazuma does have a lot of money anyway and he is okay in looks Megumin is basically in almost the similar boat as him. Literal Chuunibyou, small in height and chest size, loser as well.
>>287391627thanks
>>287393638That is a seriously sad list