Which father-son fight was better?>Goku vs Gohan before ToP>Goku vs Gohan after Super Hero>Bejita vs Trunks before Cell became perfect
>>>/bant/24209064For actual dragon ball discussion.
>>287415636>Zly defeated by Super Saiyans>Nuly went toe to toe with Super Saiyan Blue Fusion
>>287415648Yup.
>>287415648
>>287415673Which fan animation is this?
>>287415681>muh canonIs Zly canon?
>>287415701Zly is more canon than Nuly.
>>287415724Yup yup.
>>287415749this is just Liam with green hair
>>Nuly went toe to toe with Super Saiyan Blue FusionActually delusional, kek
>>287415777he tanked all that and didn't die or get ko'd
>>287415811What's with the Dokkan, fake 90s filter?
>>287415811mate Jiren lost to base Goku and Freeza
>>287415890... who are both much stronger than Dende, AKA the man Nuly knelt to.
>>287415829It returns the sovl to Dragon Ball animation
>>287415922The Dragon is stronger than the creatorthe old can't grant wish that exceeds the power of the creator made no sense and was retconned
Nuly vs Jiren Base to base, Jiren stompsBut Full power, Nuly stomps
>>287415943Why couldn't Porunga teleport Goku?
>>287415981retconnedwhy should a wish-granting dragon be bound by his creator's powers?creators can't revive people but dragons can
>>287416022>retconnedWhen? The moment it became inconvenient for Nulydogs? >creators can't revive people but dragons canMagical properties aren't the same as ki. There would be no point in creating the Dragon Balls in the first place if anyone as strong as Shenron could do everything Shenron could do.The dragons manifest their creator's powers in ways the creators themselves can't. This is how they grant wishes.Babidi could do things the Z Fighters couldn't, despite the massive disparity in their power.The fact of the matter is that Nuly is either weaker than Dende, or he allowed Shenron to teleport him because he knew he was about to die.
>>287416079Nuly wasn't really himself so in no condition to say no to Shenron like Goku did
>>287416099So you think Shenron could teleport a mindless beast who's far stronger than him, since it can't consent? Keep in mind, he regained his pupils and irises right before being teleported (and looked terrified), so it's entirely possible that Gogeta just "scared him straight," and Nuly consented to the teleport (whether consciously or subconsciously) during a momentary state of clarity.
Do you think someone asked Shenron for a larger penis?
>>287416135either way who careswork hard, study well, eat and sleep plenty, play well, enjoy life
>>287416163You clearly cared until it became obvious that you were wrong.
>>287416176I never cared
My power is maximum...
>>287416176>you were wrong>claims SSBlue Goku and Bejta were weaker than Dende
Shenron could teleport Jiren into Belmond's asshole since base Roshi is more skilled than either of them
>>287416186>attempts to defend Nuly for 20 minutes straight>fails>"I-I never cared anyway, so whatever..."
>>287416221Kekked and truearooed
Both Dende and Neva are very strong but due to age / no combat experience they get no diffed by Mr. Satan. You could also argue Shenron draws his power from Kami (Orange piccolo atp) + Dende, nobody knows since consistency is an impossibility in this series.
The amount of magical power a character is directly linked to how straight he is. Goku has no magic so he's extra straight. Piccolo is a lil zesty. And Dende is just a fag. But he taught Gohan inclusiveness by being a raging faggot and his friend. Whis is a faggot clearly.
>>287416271>Kami (Orange piccolo atpBroly is before Super Hero
>>287416278This explains why Bejita started acting like a complete homo when he was a Majin.
>>287416288It's in there, same with Beast
>>287416271>Nuly is as strong as Kami + DendeHoly fuarrk... he could probably beat Spopovich...
>>287416304Kek
My head canon has always been that Beast / Ultimate is Gohan's god form (Kai Route). Piccolo's Orange one is the Zalama route o algo
>>287416341>Gohan's god form (Kai Route)Whis clarified that it's not divine at allI like to think of it as>Ultimate Gohan - potential unlocked>Beasthan - pushed to the point of going berserk
https://strawpoll.com/GeZAR6a91yV
>>287416341Yup. I agree. My head canon isGoku = Angel route Bejita = GoD route Gohan = Kai routePiccolo = Zalama (Shenron) routeNuly = Super Saiyan route
>>287416367Which is ridiculous, because Ultimate's entire purpose was to draw out Gohan's rageboosted power without needing to actually rage out, since it was hugely inconvenient and inconsistent. I'm not even saying you're wrong, it's just that Ultimate was retconned into a run-of-the-mill transformation once Z ended, and Beast is just Ultimate 2 (as silly as that is).
>>287416430>once Z endedGT removed it (Gohan lost the transformation) and Toei filler made Ultimate weaker than SS3 Goku and the trend continued in later works
>>287416367Trunks underwent a Kai ritual aswell, he also didn't have god ki yet but was going to become a supreme kai one day. It also probably unlocked his potential and gave him ssj Rage. It also gave him healing powers.
I'd like to imagine Ultimate Gohan was him being introduced God Ki from the Elder Kai that drew out ALL his latent potential, because the last 99 times it wasn't all of it. And then Beasthan is the evolution of that, a Super Saiyan Ultimate Gohan if you will. I also wish Toriyama said this was canon.
>>287416481I wish Tori was still alive:'(
>>287416480>but was going to become a supreme kai one dayonly an apprentice like KibitoSupreme Kais are born, not made>It also probably unlocked his potential and gave him ssj RageI don't think Shin can do that without the help of the Elder>healing powersbecause he was appointed an apprentice
God of Destruction Path: Get the ever living shit beat out of you until you learn god kiAngel Path: Gruesome mental, physical, and spiritual trainingKai Path: Some retard dances around you and you get quintillions of times stronger and get hax abilitiesZalama Path: Steal from the super dragon balls and make your own super hax balls that can make you the strongest in the universe or orange
GoKING chads > Bejeeta cucks
>>287416468>GT removed it (Gohan lost the transformation)My headcanon is that GTurd decided to make Ultimate into Gohan's new base form, and he learns to stack SS on top of it (I am aware that this is retarded, but it's GTurd). I once made a long post explaining why I believe this (one of the reasons is that you can see his base form eyes are the same as his Ultimate eyes), but I don't have it saved.Another thing supporting this (in my eyes) is that Gohan was stated to have never stopped training in the time leading up to GTurd, so it almost makes sense (in a GTurd way) that he would've maintained Ultimate, unlike Superhan who entirely lost access to it for a while.
Who won last thread?
>>287416535me
>>287416489why, so he can shit out more Daipa?
>>287416545no, so he could continue SuperDaipa was most likely a favour to Iyoku
The Toyo CHADper CHADnga > Shartiyama Daipa
>>287416535I want to buy that character from Yuliban. A slutty Saiyan girlfailure named Vidalia is my wet dream
>>287416507I don't think Shin is a reliable narrator, he's the least reliable kai in the entire show. It's also hinted to be the same / similar ritual to elder kai's
>>287416563Listen, RAMENNOODLEku, you have a wifeNow you get the fact back in your house and KISS YOUR FUCKING WIFE
>>287416468>Gay Tour nerfed Gohan and everyone to below clock levelNo wonder it flopped like daipa.
>>287416559oh, so you like Super... you're THAT kind of retard.
>>287416594KEKAROOOOOOO!! The Grand Turd and daipa verses would get solo by Wan piss and Naruto characters because those weaklings can throw sharp objects too.
>>287416658>when she sees jiren's penis
>>287416594Actually Daipa scales higher than clocks to tank tier. One of its gay fat robots would mop the floor with Garbage Tour.
why did they call it diaper
>>287416835Because they hated us calling Super "Pooper" and thought that "Daipa" wasn't going to be so easily mockable
>>287416835it's derived from dapperDapper is an adjective used to describe a man who is neat, trim, and stylish in dress or appearance
