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Which father-son fight was better?
>Goku vs Gohan before ToP
>Goku vs Gohan after Super Hero
>Bejita vs Trunks before Cell became perfect
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>>>/bant/24209064
For actual dragon ball discussion.
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>>287415636
>Zly defeated by Super Saiyans
>Nuly went toe to toe with Super Saiyan Blue Fusion
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>>287415648
Yup.
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>>287415648
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>>287415673
Which fan animation is this?
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>>287415681
>muh canon
Is Zly canon?
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>>287415701
Zly is more canon than Nuly.
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>>287415724
Yup yup.
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>>287415749
this is just Liam with green hair
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>>Nuly went toe to toe with Super Saiyan Blue Fusion
Actually delusional, kek
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>>287415777
he tanked all that and didn't die or get ko'd
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>>287415811
What's with the Dokkan, fake 90s filter?
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>>287415811
mate Jiren lost to base Goku and Freeza
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>>287415890
... who are both much stronger than Dende, AKA the man Nuly knelt to.
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>>287415829
It returns the sovl to Dragon Ball animation
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>>287415922
The Dragon is stronger than the creator
the old can't grant wish that exceeds the power of the creator made no sense and was retconned
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Nuly vs Jiren Base to base, Jiren stomps
But Full power, Nuly stomps
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>>287415943
Why couldn't Porunga teleport Goku?
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>>287415981
retconned
why should a wish-granting dragon be bound by his creator's powers?
creators can't revive people but dragons can
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>>287416022
>retconned
When? The moment it became inconvenient for Nulydogs?
>creators can't revive people but dragons can
Magical properties aren't the same as ki. There would be no point in creating the Dragon Balls in the first place if anyone as strong as Shenron could do everything Shenron could do.
The dragons manifest their creator's powers in ways the creators themselves can't. This is how they grant wishes.
Babidi could do things the Z Fighters couldn't, despite the massive disparity in their power.
The fact of the matter is that Nuly is either weaker than Dende, or he allowed Shenron to teleport him because he knew he was about to die.
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>>287416079
Nuly wasn't really himself so in no condition to say no to Shenron like Goku did
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>>287416099
So you think Shenron could teleport a mindless beast who's far stronger than him, since it can't consent? Keep in mind, he regained his pupils and irises right before being teleported (and looked terrified), so it's entirely possible that Gogeta just "scared him straight," and Nuly consented to the teleport (whether consciously or subconsciously) during a momentary state of clarity.
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Do you think someone asked Shenron for a larger penis?
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>>287416135
either way who cares
work hard, study well, eat and sleep plenty, play well, enjoy life
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>>287416163
You clearly cared until it became obvious that you were wrong.
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>>287416176
I never cared
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My power is maximum...
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>>287416176
>you were wrong
>claims SSBlue Goku and Bejta were weaker than Dende
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Shenron could teleport Jiren into Belmond's asshole since base Roshi is more skilled than either of them
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>>287416186
>attempts to defend Nuly for 20 minutes straight
>fails
>"I-I never cared anyway, so whatever..."
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>>287416221
Kekked and truearooed
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Both Dende and Neva are very strong but due to age / no combat experience they get no diffed by Mr. Satan. You could also argue Shenron draws his power from Kami (Orange piccolo atp) + Dende, nobody knows since consistency is an impossibility in this series.
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The amount of magical power a character is directly linked to how straight he is. Goku has no magic so he's extra straight. Piccolo is a lil zesty. And Dende is just a fag. But he taught Gohan inclusiveness by being a raging faggot and his friend. Whis is a faggot clearly.
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>>287416271
>Kami (Orange piccolo atp
Broly is before Super Hero
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>>287416278
This explains why Bejita started acting like a complete homo when he was a Majin.
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>>287416288
It's in there, same with Beast
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>>287416271
>Nuly is as strong as Kami + Dende
Holy fuarrk... he could probably beat Spopovich...
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>>287416304
Kek
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My head canon has always been that Beast / Ultimate is Gohan's god form (Kai Route). Piccolo's Orange one is the Zalama route o algo
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>>287416341
>Gohan's god form (Kai Route)
Whis clarified that it's not divine at all

I like to think of it as
>Ultimate Gohan - potential unlocked
>Beasthan - pushed to the point of going berserk
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https://strawpoll.com/GeZAR6a91yV
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>>287416341
Yup. I agree. My head canon is
Goku = Angel route
Bejita = GoD route
Gohan = Kai route
Piccolo = Zalama (Shenron) route
Nuly = Super Saiyan route
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>>287416367
Which is ridiculous, because Ultimate's entire purpose was to draw out Gohan's rageboosted power without needing to actually rage out, since it was hugely inconvenient and inconsistent.
I'm not even saying you're wrong, it's just that Ultimate was retconned into a run-of-the-mill transformation once Z ended, and Beast is just Ultimate 2 (as silly as that is).
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>>287416430
>once Z ended
GT removed it (Gohan lost the transformation) and Toei filler made Ultimate weaker than SS3 Goku and the trend continued in later works
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>>287416367
Trunks underwent a Kai ritual aswell, he also didn't have god ki yet but was going to become a supreme kai one day. It also probably unlocked his potential and gave him ssj Rage. It also gave him healing powers.
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I'd like to imagine Ultimate Gohan was him being introduced God Ki from the Elder Kai that drew out ALL his latent potential, because the last 99 times it wasn't all of it. And then Beasthan is the evolution of that, a Super Saiyan Ultimate Gohan if you will. I also wish Toriyama said this was canon.
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>>287416481
I wish Tori was still alive
:'(
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>>287416480
>but was going to become a supreme kai one day
only an apprentice like Kibito
Supreme Kais are born, not made
>It also probably unlocked his potential and gave him ssj Rage
I don't think Shin can do that without the help of the Elder
>healing powers
because he was appointed an apprentice
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God of Destruction Path: Get the ever living shit beat out of you until you learn god ki
Angel Path: Gruesome mental, physical, and spiritual training
Kai Path: Some retard dances around you and you get quintillions of times stronger and get hax abilities
Zalama Path: Steal from the super dragon balls and make your own super hax balls that can make you the strongest in the universe or orange
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GoKING chads > Bejeeta cucks
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>>287416468
>GT removed it (Gohan lost the transformation)
My headcanon is that GTurd decided to make Ultimate into Gohan's new base form, and he learns to stack SS on top of it (I am aware that this is retarded, but it's GTurd).
I once made a long post explaining why I believe this (one of the reasons is that you can see his base form eyes are the same as his Ultimate eyes), but I don't have it saved.
Another thing supporting this (in my eyes) is that Gohan was stated to have never stopped training in the time leading up to GTurd, so it almost makes sense (in a GTurd way) that he would've maintained Ultimate, unlike Superhan who entirely lost access to it for a while.
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Who won last thread?
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>>287416535
me
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>>287416489
why, so he can shit out more Daipa?
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>>287416545
no, so he could continue Super
Daipa was most likely a favour to Iyoku
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The Toyo CHADper CHADnga > Shartiyama Daipa
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>>287416535
I want to buy that character from Yuliban. A slutty Saiyan girlfailure named Vidalia is my wet dream
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>>287416507
I don't think Shin is a reliable narrator, he's the least reliable kai in the entire show. It's also hinted to be the same / similar ritual to elder kai's
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>>287416563
Listen, RAMENNOODLEku, you have a wife
Now you get the fact back in your house and KISS YOUR FUCKING WIFE
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>>287416468
>Gay Tour nerfed Gohan and everyone to below clock level
No wonder it flopped like daipa.
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>>287416559
oh, so you like Super... you're THAT kind of retard.
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>>287416594
KEKAROOOOOOO!! The Grand Turd and daipa verses would get solo by Wan piss and Naruto characters because those weaklings can throw sharp objects too.
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>>287416594
Actually Daipa scales higher than clocks to tank tier. One of its gay fat robots would mop the floor with Garbage Tour.
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why did they call it diaper
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>>287416835
Because they hated us calling Super "Pooper" and thought that "Daipa" wasn't going to be so easily mockable
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>>287416835
it's derived from dapper
Dapper is an adjective used to describe a man who is neat, trim, and stylish in dress or appearance
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>>287416872
Imagine if Bacterian had crusty poopy hemorrhoids
That's probably a blissful feeling to scratch
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>>287416835
It's derivative of diarrhea because Goku couldn't stop sharting in the show
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How would Dragon Ball be different if Bejita were a girl instead of a boy?
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>>287416783
What a terrible fanfic for kids. The fact that trash and the furry form will never get animated ever again outside low budget commercials that only Japanese will watch is a blessing.
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>>287416936
If?
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How BADLY do you CRAVE Nickocado BUTTHOLE, boy
You're TESTING my PATIENCE
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>How BADLY do you CRAVE Nickocado BUTTHOLE, boy
>You're TESTING my PATIENCE
>But who could possibly be responsible for such a sick, vile post?
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=>>287417026
Turles...
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>>287416835
Because PEDOyoku was projecting what he wanted DB to become.
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>>287417026
We have some theories that I want to investigate
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>>287416967
my god...
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Daima
Super
Dai
per
Daiper
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>>287417070
>Showing toddlers in the trailer when toddlers are not liked in media at all currently to the point they can make it flop
What the FUARK was Toei thinking??
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>>287417147
And that's not all
All the other characters were changed back to kid versions of themselves wearing the same clothing they were wearing
This implies Goten and Trunks were ALREADY wearing diapers beforehand
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>>287417168
Kek, Iyoku is a sick freak.
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>>287417168
>almost none of these designs were ever seen again
>just looking at it makes me feel like it was meant to be aimed at Japanese women who obsess over "gyuuuu kawaii" but virtually no one watched Diapphea for this and the only thing anyone remembers is Super Saiyan 3 and 4
>the RETURN OF ADOBENCHA that was supposed to be the big draw was probably the single worst adventure story ever made in the genre, it doesn't even begin to understand what makes adventure fiction work and relied on "look it's the power pole and Goku's a kid again" as the only selling point
>Super Saiyan 4 was handled so pisspoorly that it defies belief. It was debuted with Chibi Goku where it JOBS in the same episode it apepars, then it reappears an episode later with adult Goku where it's framed as if it's the first time it was ever used and we never learn where or how he learned it
>we learned how every character achieved their transformation before now, even if off screen, but here it's chalked up as "goku just did it somehow in the 3 months since Buu"
I actually cannot make heads or tails of what the fuck Iyoku was thinking
How potent was the crack he took??
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>>287417168
I love how they took the absolute laziest possible route for these designs
> here's current character
> now shrink them
I'm almost surprised they didn't give kid Mr Satan peach fuzz or a fake mustache, and they both tried and didn't try at all with Ox King
It's even shittier with the characters we literally had kid designs for. They could have been based and brought back their young designs for what was Toriyama's final project so it was like a bookends, and we got Kid Goku, Kid Chichi, Kid/young teen Bulma, and kid Krillin all together again
They couldn't even do that right
What actually was the point of any of this??
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>>287416967
hnnnngg vegetabussy
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>>287417168
Baby Roo solos all of those binky-sucking jobbers.
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>>287414160
Someone tell Swordcuck this DBH/SD artist is actually sucks Toyo's gigachad cock
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>Yuliban
The /v/ermincord is here
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/vg/dbg/ is still mindbroken over Daipa flopping and Super returning.
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>toyo is totally better than this
IT LOOKS LIKE AI SLOP
IT LOOKS LIKE THE MOST MID-2010S "WE'RE A CARD/TOY SATURDAY MORNING KIDDY ANIME" FILLER IMAGINABLE

THAT'S IT
I'M BENDING OVER EVERY ANTI-TOYOWEAKLING
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>>287415811
Jiren is dreaming about this btw
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>>287417456
This new Beyblade series looks so cool...
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>>287417456
>THIS is what anti-Toyocucks like
Why am I not surprised?
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>>287417456
>IT LOOKS LIKE AI SLOP
You're not even wrong about that, it does unironically look like Stable Diffusion "Dragon Ball Z, 4k, ultrahighres, goku, super saiyan, black hair, flying towards camera," but it was actually draw by someone
Who even is that Yugioh background character knockoff in the back
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>>287417491
>Who even is that Yugioh background character knockoff in the back
That's Goku, scholar
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>>287417456
>Daipa focused flop game
Im glad that shit looks terrible and worse than Heroes.
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>>287414402
Our hero
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>>287417456
This is so unbelievable, terrible kek. No wonder Iyokek came back crawling to OPUSper.
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>>287417456
>here's your "next generation" Dragon Ball *raughs*
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>>287417649
Those demons are not fat round blobs with no muscle. No way that can be daipa.
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>>287417456
>Already past several chapters
>Not a single soul talked about this until they made a Black Frieza gag reference
>Now people have translated the entire kodomo cardass manga
Toyo clout can get you far
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>>287417649
Where's the fish/black guy lips and noodle arms?!
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>>287416535
This is what Bulla should have looked like
Tired of Bulma clones
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Here's another niche video toy manga nobabidi talks about.
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>>287417784
I think the gay Nulyposter might like this
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>female fans increased
>bejita had done nothing good in the entire series up to this point
>had murdered old men and children on screen and tortured another child nearly to death
>was a balding bloodthirsty sadistic manlet who only committed brutal atrocities
>somehow was the biggest female pull the series had ever seen
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>>287417456
>>287417784
>We want the genki Duel Monsters/Beyblade audience
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>>287417858
Can't blame them, everyone wants to fix and free some murderous royal midget
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>>287417784
A friend of mines says it's going to get a reissue and new volume if the next FighterZ DLC turns out great :p
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>>287417649
I know this is Jijii, did anything happen in DBAF? Did Goku beat the psycho monkey man?
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>>287417998
no, but apparently Gogeta is going to dispose that chimp.
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>>287418058
Finalmente....
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Also Jijii is making a TF manga...
https://x.com/i/status/2005829995860517029
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>>287418179
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>>287418179
post this on /vg//dbg/, they love transcuties.
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>>287418179
Would be hotter if it was Female Goku
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I have made love to another man...
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>>287418468
Mr. Satan...
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>>287418179
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>>287418179
>account posting and every single reply is a brown man
Why are they like this
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>>287418179
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>>287418624
>>287418522
HEROES
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Why does SSJ5 give you dark skin?
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What's Goku's fucking problem?!
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>>287418613
What's wrong anon, can't enjoy that sweet Brazilian air at your favela?
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>>287418788
Thankfully I don’t live in south brownmerica at all.



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