How can dubfags have such garbage taste? They are literally okay with watching a garbage bootleg version of anime, with shitty VAs and bastardized localized writing, instead of the original the way the creators intended. It’s like they’re choosing to eat a dirty hot dog on the ground instead of A5 wagyu. Truly disgusting.
How can animefags have such garbage taste? They are literally okay with watching a garbage bootleg tiktok version of source material, with shitty animation and bastardized localized writing fanfic, instead of the original the way the creators intended. It’s like they’re choosing to eat a dirty hot dog on the ground instead of A5 wagyu. Truly disgusting.
>>287434872Suck start a shotgun, dubshitter
>>287434682They just straight up like anime less than people like you and me. They don't give a fuck about getting a super butchered version of a product because it's just a mild interest for them.
>Guy posting UFOtable's dumbed-down slop adaptation of F/SN for normies concerned about honoring the creator's original intent
>>287435044They are literal cattle.
>>287435057Still better than watching dub slop
I always ask people who watch dubs if they watch foreign movies dubbed too and I have never seen them able to explain why movie dubs are wrong but anime dubs are okay.
>>287435121Because the suspension of disbelief makes animated dubs slightly less awful than live action ones
>>287435121Bold of you to assume that dubshitters watch any movies at all besides the latest Marvel slop.
>>287434993I’m not a dubfag, but don’t talk about “muh le original way creators intended” when you’re basically watching a medium where 99% is low-effort advertising for the source material.
>>287435218>I’m not a dubfagSure you aren’t
>>287435121Dubfags have no thought at all
If I could push a button that would kill all dub watchers, EN VAs, and localizers, I’d do it in a heartbeat
>>287435218>i don't have an opinion i'm just neutrally offering food for thought on why the other side might actually be right to bring some balance to this discussionGo back.
I'm someone who grew up with fansubbing so always was used to subs but I'm starting to like dubs more. Just easier to watch that way. Japanese voice acting is nothing special and is actually kind of annoying to listen to since it sounds like a bunch of gibberish to my English speaking ears. Why would I want to hear that when I can listen in my native language? English dubbing has vastly improved from mid 2000s when I started watching. Plus now you can get release day dubs on many shows so you don't have to wait. just watch in English it's a better experience. Stop with the weeb obsession with Japanese voices
>>287435328>ask a question>get a answer>"n-no!! Not like that!! Just agree with me!!!"
>>287435121Not arguing for dubfags, but this point doesn't mean shit to me and I would think most people especially Americans. Who the fuck cares about foreign films of other countries? Yeah I have a couple german films and like 1 Italian film on my drive, but that's fucking nothing.The biggest relevant foreign film market would ironically be Korea, and I personally cannot fucking stand Korean films. Their language sounds disgusting, their plots are always the simplest slop, every single character sounds like they have the same exact fucking two syllable hypen kim-moon name. I would absolutely prefer the most mediocre english dub or hollywood remake of a korean movie, assuming there is a korean movie out there I would ever give a shit about.
>>287435346Holy shit you need to kill yourself like right now
>>287434682I'm just tired of listening JP screeching .
>>287435382lol imagine thinking Korean sounds disgusting. It’s one of the better sounding Asian languages like Japanese. Now Chinese, Thai, and Vietnamese? Truly disgusting sounding languages.
>>287434682I wish I could tolerate dubs, because then I could watch anime while doing something else. If I have to read subtitles, I can't look away from the screen to play a video game.
Surely there's a handful of good dubs. Baccano comes to mind. What else?
>>287435414The sad thing is I agree with you. I was just saying the Korean films get the most international attention, and while it does sound better than all of those other languages I still don't like it. And the issue with Korean names genuinely filters me, they are so fucking bad. I could look up a movie's main cast names before watching it, study it for like 10 minutes, and still lose track of which gook name matches to who on screen.I will say that Korean as a pretty isolated language family is pretty cool. Their writing system btfo Chinese, Japanese, Thai, etc etc and it's not even close.
>>287435380>implyingI'm telling you to have the balls to own up to your opinion, instead of giving this "I'm just like all of you but just for pure intellectual stimulation allow me to present a hypothetical counterargument that the opposition might bring to this divisive subject" retardation, faggot.
>>287434993Suck my dick. Learn Japanese or btfo
>>287435420Why the fuck would you do anything else while watching anime or anything? Are you retarded? Do you have severe ADHD?>>287435465There are zero good dubs. All are vastly inferior to the original Japanese. No exceptions.
>>287434682>/a/ is getting flooded with "muh dub localizers normie ahh bad" threads>surprisingly, MAL has had a lot of "muh dub localizers normie bad ahh" threads recentlyJust exchange your nicknames, retards.
>>287435533Yeah because we’re tired of the utter cancer that are lowcalizers running amok and destroying the medium.
>>287435518>Vastly inferior I like how subtards can say this with such confidence when 99% of them cannot speak Japanese.How can you say the VO is anything beyond different if you don't even speak the fucking language?
>>287435639>How can you say the VO is anything beyond different if you don't even speak the fucking language?nta, if you watch foreign media in any other language you will have no trouble recognizing that some voice actors are shit. most qualities of good voice acting have nothing to do with language.
>>287435575Learn Japanese then get a translation gig and slowly climb up the ranks until you have a monopoly on translating Japanese media otherwise accept your fate
>>287435518>Why the fuck would you do anything else while watching anime or anything? Are you retarded? Do you have severe ADHD?It's the other way around, I'm usually playing a game, and it's nice to have something on that I can halfway pay attention to during things like monotonous grinding in-game.
Subhumans (subfags) can’t identify bad voice work to save their life. You aren’t a paragon of taste because you watch gookshit in its original gook language. You would watch Chinese or Cantonese anime with Japanese dubbing because slant eye island women give you a boner.
>>287435707>if only someone offered high quality work at a fair price they'd monopolize the marketThought process of an actual moron.
>>287435057It's more of a gradient than anything. In fact, using foreign language subtitles also isn't "the original way the creators intended" but it's far more respectful than using a dub.
>>287435465>What else?These dubs I see as good:1. Risky Safety2. Ai Yori Aoshi3. Please Teacher4. Please Twins5. DearS6. Heat Guy J7. Hanaukyo Maid Team La Verite8. A.I.C.O. -Incarnation- (Bang Zoom dub)9. Revisions10. Mahoromatic
>>287434682Localization is inherent because translation becomes very stilted if done literally, you consuming subs are not much different from a dubfag. You are both EOP's and honestly have no right to complain because you lack the will to learn Japanese.
>>287435465YYH is often pointed to as a good dub, and for good reason. Funny enough the HxH 2011 anime is also really good, except Gon and Killua are only tolerably mid. All of the side characters are great, it's just fucking Gon and Killua that are meh. The chimera ant arc in particular is really good in the dub. Even the narrator works well.
>>287434682It's tiring to binge anime with subs.
>>287435841>YYH is often pointed to as a good dub, and for good reason.Nostalgia/lack of standards.
>>287434682Rider>Rin>Sakura>Saber
>>287435938terrible tastesaber>rin>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>usedgoods
>>287435938Saber >>>>> Sakura > Illya > Rin > Caster > Taiga > Rider
>>287435575Then why don't you just learn Nihongo and stop relying on any kind of translations?
>>287435757>>287435707Actually for a lot of neet /a/nons if even one of you did this it could be a big deal and you would be making cash while saving the industry from tranny tyrants.
>>287436227Yeah that’s what I’m doing because FUCK localizers because we can’t rely on anyone to make accurate subtitles anymore
>>287436258you're not part of us trip tranny discord tourist namefag, never reply to me again
>>287435707There are plenty of people that would happily do it. But there’s a reason why they haven’t been hired.
>>287434682With dubs, I can turn up the play speed and finish episodes faster. Anime isn’t art and I’m not missing much by not reading subtitles.
>>287436358Based zoomoid
>>287436358Decent ragebaitMade me reply
>>287435465Berserk 94, Lupin part 2, Big O, Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Space dandy, JJK, Cromartie, Trigun
>>287436409Berserk 97 is kino, still the only good adaptation. Great dub too.
>>287436305woah chill out bro, just filter my trip
>>287436409All are inferior to the original>JJKNow I know you have garbage taste
>>287436409>JJLnot only a terrible show but one of the worst dubs I’ve ever heard
>>287435382>Who the fuck cares about foreign films of other countries?people who like movies
>>287436622Normalfags aren't human.
>>287436622I hate moviesI hate TVI hate video gamesI hate booksI hate musicIn fact I hate all media
>>287436693What about anime? Do you hate anime?
I am so brainwashed by subs that I turn on Closed Captioning for shows in my native language. The only exception is for sports; I need to see the scorebug.
>>287436720Yes
>>287436739Most people watch and play everything subtitled nowadays. Including things in their native language. Just in case they miss something or can’t understand what a character is saying due to how they talk
>>287436752Why do you post on /a/ if you hate anime?
>>287436769>he thinks people here actually like anime
>>287434682Reading subs after a while hurts my eyes and gives me a fuck of a headache.
>>287436788I like anime, plenty of anons here like anime. This isn't /v/...
>>287436765I do this for all video.
>>287437235Skill issue
>>287437235Learn Japanese and you won’t need subs. In fact, subs are so bad nowadays with tranny localizers running amok that this is what every anime fan should do. Raw is objectively the best way to watch.
>>287437888日本語無ぞ菓子かなにか
>>287434682It depends on the dub. The Fate dub is good. At the very least, I like Rin's voice actress.
>>287438033
>>287438132>Fate dub good>Dub Rin good You need to get off this board
>>287437254Not true, 99% of people here are as negative as /v/Everything is shit, slop, tranny, etc.
>>287435465Code GeassGhibliPokémon
>>287438247meh
Dubs just sound bad to me but if there was one that was good maybe I'd tolerate it especially since people I know prefer dubs so it makes it easier to watch with them.
>>287435465you'd think these threads would be garbage enough on their own, but leave it to dubniggers to beg for recs and reply with lists unironically
>>287435465None
>>287435465all
>>287435465Cowboy BepopMexican/Brazilian Saint Seiya
>>287434682If you don't watch anime undubbed without subtitles at the moment while they're airing/in theaters and unspoiled, you're not really watching them the way they were intended to be seen.
The problem lies in the compromises and quality issues.Don't want to adapt some dialogue because there is trouble in your country? Ok, fine. Provide something that matches the quality then. >Doesn't do itEw.Can't use the soundtrack because of licensing? Ok, fine. Provide a good soundtrack yourself then that is similar in tone.>Mostly Creative Common License-tier Music mixed together while being a 50/50 gamble on whether ruining the mood of scenes.Oh for gods sake.Voice actors get shitty payment in your country? That's a big problem. After joining an union with the average benefits and safety in wages, they can give their best! Let's give it a listen>Constant 4/10s or 5/10s. Running the risk of mischaracterizing their portrayal alongside the dialogue. I am getting sick of this.The dub vs sub shitshow wouldn't be massively a thing if, and get this, IF THE DUB ACTUALLY MATCHED THE QUALITY OF THE JAPANESE. HOW THE FUCK DO YOU FAGGOTS HAVE THE BALLS TO ASK FOR THE SAME TREATMENT OF RESPECT OR PAY WHEN YOU CAN'T EVEN DO A BASIC JOB!?!!?Those faggy "In the dub"-tier interferences are pathetic (Because why do you glaze or constantly bring it up in a subbed discussion for the source material?), I get to experience the original material as it is, the japanese quality control is far superior while the localized work is bareboned, overpriced and simply not worth a shit.This is the anime equivalent of other companies whining and bitching about Steam. BECAUSE THE LATTER DOESN'T CONSTANTLY SHOOTS ITSELF IN THE FOOT WHILE BEING AN BAD EXPERIENCE TO THE USER, THEY FUCKING DO THEIR JOB. OH HEAVENS AND LORD ABOVE, WHY ARE PEOPLE USING STEAM OVER THE OTHER MEDIOCRE STOREFRONT?!?!
>>287435465Kemono Friends S1 unironically has a fantastic English dub. They actually went above and beyond, finding voice actors who fit the pitch and cadence of the original Japanese ones, fitting in as many of the puns as they could, fully dubbing the entire PPP song in episode 8, and even getting American veterinarians and zookeepers to do the commercial break segments.
It is a fact, a literal fact, that in some rare instances, the dub is better than the sub. Period. Like, for instance, Frieren.The rare occurrence of a dub > sub is an absolute fact. At this point, only reply to me if you agree.
>>287434682anime is supposed to be watched, not read
>>287434872>>287434682>garbage bootleg version of anime, with shitty VAs and bastardized localized writing, instead of the original the way the creators intended.Remember that the majority of manga readers on this board read translations.
>>287440177Sub is another dogshit fanfic, so whether you hear the fanfic or read the fanfic doesn’t really change anything, to be fair.
>>287434682You are correct most of the time, but sometimes you can get kinodubs that are worth watchinghttps://youtu.be/YSSvlzzGMpY?si=Ae6Xp31jINYROwZn
>>287434682I know I hate dubs but sometimes I do get conflicted when director says intended language is something else than japanese. Well anime doesn't have this problem and it's mostly about games and movies where I've seen this happen.
>>287434872Fpbp lmao
>>287435057>FS/N>acting liek it's good and it mattersIt is slop. Terrible slop.
>>287441049I read it in Japanese and it was a solid 9/10. don’t know about the english fanfic, probably shit like always
>>287435395It's pasta.
>>287435057The only way to honor Nasu's intent is to read the original version of fsn with none of that Realta Nua crap.>>287441108Doubt that anon even read the vn.
>>287440143Miyazaki's English is too poor for him to have a relevant opinion on this.
how come the rare exceptions you want dubbed (documentaries, etc) is the only stuff that isn't
Dubfags should be lead into gas chambers.
To all the retards saying just learn japanese. You're right, in fact we should completely abolish translation and dubbing of anime, if you want to watch anime just learn japanese right guys, no need for dubs or translation. For the record im learning japanese, but even i think this argument is the most retarded i have seen, it should not be controversial to want an accurate product free from retarded lolcowlizers rewrites.
>>287442912It's more retarded to pretend the issue won't continue to get worse with the explosion of normies watching anime that will want their normie sensibilities catered to
>>287440143Miyazaki would like for people to think there are artistic reasons why he uses live-action actors and random celebrities in his movies, but everyone knows it's for marketing reasons. His opinions on voice acting are worthless in any language.
