Recent memory I've got>judo namek (nagatoro)>sex namek (asoko hataraku musubu san)>school festival namek (watamote)>ishigami harem namek (kaguya)>cavalry namek (prison school)
>>287437237you watch too many horny romcoms
Will any of them ever be worse than Rape Namek though?
>>287437237all prison school is peak though
>>287437237one piece
>inb4yuriWatayuri has spent almost 3 fucking years on the school festival and isn't remotely close to being done
>>287437237>asoko hataraku musubu san
>>287437295Gal Cleaning?
Towa no yugure episode 0 had MC successfully marrying and fucking his step sister. The actual show was some horrible attempt at post apocalyptic sci fi that i didn’t finish because of dating namekGod it was awful they introduced like a gorillion mysteries about this world only for half if this show to be an android and a brown girl trying to date MC who is just a traumatized guy that is trying to stay loyal to his probably dead wifeLike it this was just some random teenager waking up in the future fine do all your romcom shit, but this is a married man with very valid reasons to tell the girls to fuck up and needs to hurry and travel to a city to find answers about what happened to his wife
>>287438659>>287437295no, wolf guy. 30+ chapters of continuous, brutal gang rape.
>>287438659Wolf Guy. Gal Cleaning barely had a chapter of implied rape. Rape Namek went on forever.
>>287439033>>287439036Fucking excuse me?
Post good Nameks instead
>>287437237Village Namek
>>287437237The away mission test Namek (World Trigger)
>>287437237>>cavalry namek (prison school)This must be the last one I experienced, and it was so long ago… I hated it so much
>>287437237What the fuck is a namekYou mean a story arc?
>>287437237Probably the Vampire (bount) arc in bleach and the one filler arc in Naruto shippuden where they invade the village with zombies. Aside from the beginning, where they take out like half the village, nothing interesting happens.
>>287437237>>287440909Nobody in this thread understands what "Namek" means in proper context.When DBZ was first airing in the US on Toonami (on weekdays), they were using the Ocean dub but for some reason (probably licensing) they only aired to up to when Goku arrived and beat up Recoome, Jeice, and Burter.So because they didn't have any episodes after to air, they would start over from earlier in the arc and basically replay the early Namek saga over and over for what had to have been a year. And this was back when not everyone had internet access, so nobody really knew WHY Namek was just repeating over and over, and why they weren't showing the episodes afterwards.It wasn't until Funimation became a thing and started their dub that finally resumed it. (It was a big deal with Toonami advertising it too)Honestly, the closest thing I can think of is Haruhi's Endless Eight, where it was an intentional repeating.
>>287441073I would just translate "still on namek" as "Wasting my goddamn time". Just like when the Berserk Manga was "still on the boat". its the same damned thing.
>>287441073The Namek TV arc is notorious even outside the US where that never happened. It is just insanely bloated.
>>287441073And just a fun little aside while I'm here, early US dubbing was so strange with Pokemon too. It was a majorly hyped up event, where they sent out that promotional VHS along with a pamphlet with what TV channel was airing it (at least where I lived).And when it was time for the first day of airing, the episode they aired was the SS Anne episode, which was the last episode they had dubbed. The SECOND day actually aired Episode 1 and proceeded as normal, until that episode and it repeated as they worked on the next batch.At some point they shifted to Saturday morning airings for new episodes (I think when they nearly caught up), and I got tired of waking up early on Saturdays during Johto.So my anime exposure was just Kanto/Orange/Johto. When I learned Ash would reset his roster in Hoenn, unlike how he started in Johto, I was glad I didn't care, and from what I understand it got worse with how he kept on losing.
>>287440411The organical namek arc :D
>>287437237Railgun's 5 year long flashback namek that nobody asked for was bad enough that it killed the manga, but it gets even worse when Railgun's sister-spinoff Mental Out rocks up to simultaneously pull a namek of its own with the same fucking general plotline in the exact same dyke middle school setting with the same fucking core characters for the same fucking length of time (now that Railgun is kill it'll probably be even longer).
>>287441073Thanks for the explanation. I'm still going to refer to them as arcs, though.Also>>287437237>Nagatoro Judo training>WorstIt's the most important arc in the series though, she lets go of her pride of being somewhat of an athletic savant and actually puts in the hard work to achieve her goal, WHILE Senpai is doing the same thing to get into a prestigious art school in Tokyo.
>>287441122This is true of all of the anime adaptation really. One of the few cases where the manga is a substantially superior product and yet almost no one gives a shit about it.
>>287441073>nobodyI said one piece for a reason.
>>287438989FilteredIt was about androids and love. It was obvious something was wrong with his body from the start
>>287440411I miss Bear Namek
>>287441666All real human beings know the anime is a trash adaptation and only the manga matters for Dragon Ball.
>>287437237There's no Namek worse than any "will they won't they" romcom because it's the entire fucking series, contrary to Namek, which was just a part of an arc.
>>287440909It's where you lurk five minutes before posting to understand commonly used terms.
>>287437237Kengan Omega post-Ohma revival
>>287442677Namek implies that there's an end or another side.
>>287438989They tried. It felt like a Mecha series without any Giant robot battles to keep things interesting but at the very least they tried.
>>287442304I don't browse /dbs/ because I'm caucasian and not brown
>>287437237What makes an arc a Namek?
>>287441666I was honestly surprised by how good the choreography is when I read the manga for the first time.Toriyama was on another level.
>>287442981You don't have to browse /dbs/ to know what Namek is.
>>287442987Quite long and focused on one (or few) setting. High stakes
>>287437237every one piece arc after water 7
>>287443286I think Nameks are low stakes because you usually know how they will end which makes them boring.
>>287443505Depends on what you mean by that but at the very least I think these would preferably be high stakes arcs in universe. Or rather they're treated quite seriously in universe (which makes sense since they're long arcs)
>>287442987It's basically pacing whiplash. Most Namek arcs are the first really long arc in their respective manga, though not always. But the preceding few arcs were usually a lot shorter. The result is you go into this new arc accustomed to a rather brisk story pace, only for the flow of the story to grind to a halt as the author goes into excessive elaborate detail over every little thing. The manga basically shifts entirely to "showing" rather than "telling", and the pace of the story suffers for it. It's not that slow pace or detail is bad, it's the abrupt, drastic shift in pacing that creates the feel of a Namek arc. When you find yourself thinking "jeez how much longer is this going to go on? " that's a sign that you're in a Namek arc, it means your expectation for the story's pace is thrown off and it's moving much, much slower than you've come to expect it to.
>>287437237>sex namek (asoko hataraku musubu san)The manga's release and the translation were just slow, and the entire manga is about him having sex with a girl interested in condoms.
>>287439114Have you ever read Wolf Guy? Or are you implying there's more on screen rape in Gal Cleaning than there is in Wolf Guy?
>>287440411>>287440787
>>287443574I'd say Nameks specifically have the feeling of being "stuck" in one particular place, or in one particular scene, for an inordinately long time. It's not just the whole arc, but usually a part of it that drags on way too long in one place.
wano
>>287443549Yeah, I thinking on the reader side. Stakes tend to be high in universe, but they're just so high you just know everything will be fine.
>>287443695>drags on way too longI'd argue that part isn't necessary, or rather, "TOO long" is wrong. Sometimes it's done in a good way. In the manga version of the original Namek arc, even though it's a lot faster than the anime you still feel stranded, and that's a good thing
>>287443691You almost don't want it to end because the author doesn't have enough HP left for what comes next.
>>287442987I think there's a few things that make a namek:Arc that is longer than was previously the norm.Lots of filler dragging it out. Both in the original content that exists only to slow down the adaptation sense but also just events that take up screentime but don't meaningfully advance the plot in general.Extreme disconnect between air/publication time and time passed in universe. Like in a 20 minute episode somehow only 2 minutes actually passed or in a more global sense that years worth of serialised material somehow takes place over a single afternoon. This can be both because the pacing is just that slow or because some publishing issue meaning the content is not actually coming out at the pace it's suppose to be. Maybe there was a hiatus in the meantime or maybe it's just a low page count monthly so it feels like nothing is happening.
>>287443724The manga version of Namek is not a Namek.
Dressrosa
>>287437295What possesses a man to create something like Wolf Guy?
>>287439114And Wolf Guy ran in a semimonthly magazine too iirc, so that would have been 60+ weeks straight of nothing but rape for anyone that followed it while it was serialized
>>287444788That's the stupidest god damn thing I've ever heard.
>>287444298Outside of the Buu Arc the manga is very well paced in general. The chapters are also generally shorter than most modern manga chapters, with very clean and concise paneling, and typically not very dislog heavy.
>>287437237Idol namek
>>287444862There's a reason most people don't mention Wolf Guy outside of blithe comments about Rape Namek
>>287444788Ive put up with alot of bs weekly/monthlyAnd Ive read rape namekI could never have the strength to read that at publication speed lmao
>>287444934The Buu arc goes pretty fast though, the only slightly slower parts might be the late parts of Super Buu but even they're relatively short.
>>287437237Watamote has been kino, go fuck yourself
>>287441073Toonami would go all the way back to the start of the Saiyan Saga, and Namek was poked fun at because it was a long arc even in its complete state, in part due to having a lot of filler. People could start taking ages even just to power up.
>department store Namek in Kaiji (everyone immediately figured out that Mario would escape by crossdressing in the clothes he bought for his mom, and yet we had to sit through like 20 chapters of him sitting in a restaurant and biding his time before he got around to it)>that one giant room in Needless that took up the majority of the anime>Dressrosa and Wano (and to a lesser extent, the WEEDDING KEEKI chase and Gorosei chase)
>>287437237I maintain that the massive block of filler at the end of Nardo is the most mind-numbingly boring shit ever created. The only saving grace is that you can skip the entire thing, but watching that garbage as it aired must have been equivalent to being waterboarded.
>>287446065What makes it worse is that the manga was finished for like over a year and they insisted on doing the whole filler with the hypnosis
>>287445989Would you say Department Store qualifies as Namek but not something like One Poker, or Washizu?
>>287446766The sheer inaneness of the Department Store (Mario had a sudden bout of plot-induced absolute retardation and went shopping in a major department store on his own without even asking the others despite knowing debtors all over the country were looking for them) was what made it so frustrating, but yes, Washizu definitely qualifies as a Namek. I'm not so sure about One Poker, though, as I'd say people were already used to each arc of Kaiji taking up an entire part by that point. The arc where Kaiji was a bystander in his own manga was more of a Namek, I'd say.
>>287446898I guess I'm trying to understand what would make one or the other specifically count as a Namek, considering Washizu is one of the best FKMT arcs and being long is part of its appeal.Is "deviation from usual formula" the reason why some would see "Mario Department Store", or "Kaiji Spectates Easy Mode CPUs" (part 4) as Nameks?
>>287440411I miss you, Sumo Namek
Do you like... sports festivals???
>>287437237Having a Flashback Namek at the start of your manga is a daring choice
>>287437295it was hot at first then it just kept on going and going and going and going. I didn't even bother reading the finale. Did the author get cheated on or something, that rape was straight out of some fetish. Just when you thought it was over, here comes another batch of dick.
>>287437237Is Namek the code for the worst arc in a manga?
>>287447094It's more about length than being good or bad (it can be both >>287440411)
>>287440411arguably the boat namek was good then Miuraj just had to die.
>>287447199What the fuck is this revisionismNobody liked boat Namek, not even with a good release schedule you'd still hate it
>>287447094I suppose by default an arc that is often best summarized as feeling far too long and aggravating would qualify as the worst for a given manga, or at least a strong contender for that title
>>287447094It's not really that it's bad, more that it's bad in a specific way that feels like it takes forever.It can be because it's just genuinely very long compared to other storylines and fatigue is setting and people just want that resolved, pacing slowed down so a lot of chapters go by but not much is actually happening or even just that the release schedule is slow/inconsistent so a lot of real time has passed, but not much material has actually come out to progress the plot.
>>287446997I don't think there's a hard definition. department arc falls into "a few chapters took a long time irl" mentioned earlier and it's got an associated location but since there's no definition and everyone likes Akagi we don't call Washizu a namek. It's whatever arc you think fits.
>>287447216YOU didn't like the boat arc(it didn't help that anons have died waiting for the boat arc to be over), most of the anons actually liked it and appreciate it. If it wasn't for the horrendous release schedule it would have been one of the top arcs of Berserk. God I remember when the boat arc was over, we even had a sticky for it.
>>287447404Oh and now that I think of it "Namek" also typically take place in a single location/scenery.Like the OG Namek that has like literally 2 locations and it's otherwise bland and featureless. Mexico from Bleach where they travel but it's all the same black and white desert. Or berserk boat, that even though it technically moves in the world it's just the same boat at sea the whole time.
>>287447837Namek was beautiful and iconic
>>287447936Well, can't deny the look is iconic, but that's all of it. There's no landmarks or much in the way of structures. The whole planet is literally 3 locations. The one namekian village, guru's house and in front of frieza's ship.
>>287446997Washizu is a bit different because a lot of stuff happens during the game and Akagi is a sports manga. Stuff like Washizu in hell could have developed into a Namek if it lasted for 3-4 volumes.
>>287448193You can kinda tell which location they're in based on the islands and stuff. Bulma and friends had 2 different hideouts. I'll give you that it's kinda one note but I think it's also part of the appeal.
>>287445856this sounds impossible in retrospect but I'm sure during namek there was multiple episode spans where goku/frieza would just be in the background doing a shepard tone while other side stories played out.
>>287441628I think you forgot that people liked reading about Nagatoro teasing Senpai and were not ready to see actual character improvement.
>>287441666FEW!? I am pretty sure that people would enjoy High School DXD so much more if they decided to look at more than just the anime.
>>287447068God, this one is so fucking bad. We've had to have spent more time on these two retarded boys than the rest of the series by now. Or close to it.
>>287447534Nah, Clam Cthulu just doesn't have any charisma. You can't go from good villains like Grunbeld or Ganishka to a mindless animal that barely knows you exist. Berserk is heavily carried by the quality of its antagonists and this failed to deliver on that front.
>>287438637I didn’t think Wagayuri could top either of the sports nameks but yeah the festival has gotten ridiculous. At this point I just want it to be over so we can get back to some sexy shenanigans or at the very least Rin cucking Itsumi’s sister in person instead of unknowingly over the phone
>>287437295If you tell me the author is a guy and not some horny old lady I will never believe you
>>287452068It's a male duo iirc, they were also responsible for Shin Mazinger ZERO and Akumetsu
>>287442987Setting doesn't change. Plot grinds to a halt and meanders. Practically filler that won't end.
>>287447048>Escapism>Sports festival namekaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAHhhhHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>287437237This was my peak.
>>287442981You must be extremely brown/black from a primitive mudhut-living tribe if you somehow missed learning what Namek is.
>>287445549>>287444934I think a problem with the Buu arc is just that it kept sort of restarting with a "new" Buu and a new hero to oppose him. It never quite felt like any progress was made, or any useful information was learned to help the protagonists.
>>287440909A story arc of excessive length that probably could've been shorter. That said, the entire Namek arc in DBZ was 88 chapters and shorter than both the android and majin buu arcs. Considering that Namek centered around ten villains (including Vegeta) and Frieza's multiple forms it was actually decently paced.
>>287441073You are wrong and everyone else is right. Namek is an insanely long and bloated arc with nothing happening even outside of the context of the shit US dub. If it was truly just that then people outside of the US who never experienced that would never universally get what people mean by "namek"
>>287454399I think a lot of it comes from DB anime, which was more dragged out and included more fill stuff like episodes about bulma.But yeah, Namek isn't really the worst Namek in dragon ball or history or anime.
>>287440411Greed Island
>>287442677the entirety of post ohma omega is subversion namek
>>287442987abnormally long arc, generally focused on a singular threat/problem with a seemingly simple solution that somehow keeps finding ways of putting off the resolution, either by forcing characters to go thru unrelated mini arcs or fight a bunch of fodder to pad out chapters,tho arguably the most important element is a stagnated, not particularly interesting, setting where characters stay in for the entire arc
>>287455896what if he subvert subversion namek?
What arc in Kingdom felt like namek?
>>287454033Good example. It isn't even a bad arc after the fact, but damn was it brutal to get through.
>>287440411Sailor namek (technically an arc but whatever)
>>287442304If I lurk for another "five minutes" I'll die of old age
>>287455658Which is exactly why Kai is the superior watch since it halves the episode count. By the time Namek blows up in Kai, the Ginyu Force hasn't even been introduced in Z.
>>287437237>>287442304Honest question for science anons.Say something blew up Earth's core like Freeze destroyed Namek's core.Would the Earth fall apart and explode like Namek did?
>>287444788>And Wolf Guy ran in a semimonthly magazine too iirc, so that would have been 60+ weeks straight of nothing but rape for anyone that followed it while it was serializedI don't actually want to read this, but honestly now I feel like I have to do it. I know I shouldn't but...
Are you just calling any drawn out arc namek? I feel like I've only heard people say that when talking about arcs where they go to another location...
>>287439114>>287444862>>287458466it is genuinely awful though, not that it wasn't portrayed well or done well, just that it is absolute staring into the abyss kind of brutality.
Martha's arc in Spy X Family, it had no relevance to anything and was only 5 chapters long but Axeman clearly needed to tell the backstory for some reason and have breaks in between so it felt like it dragged on forever.
>>287456806That's the worst part. What's going on is great, mostly, but there's just so MUCH of it and it takes so LONG. I probably should have spoilered that with the anime airing.
>>287458341it'd crumble in on itself but no explosions unless you count volcanic activity as explosions
>>287437295>worse>>287438637Yuri is perfectly fine to post. Don't let the retards gaslight you.
The original Namek is greatSo I don't understand why it's become synonymous with a terrible ArcScholars?
>>287458341You'd need an unimaginable fuckton of energy to rip something as massive as a planet apart. Nothing we've ever invented can even come close. But yeah, if you could somehow produce that much energy, then it could happen.
>>287437237Room Namek in the Needless anime.IIRC almost half the show takes place in one room.
>>287454280This kind of applies to Cell as well but at least Buu is fun and comedic so the chaos is part of the appeal>>287457354Just means both Z and Kai are a mess really
>>287440411Tokyo Blade in OnKNot even that long and is actually a good arc, ruined by countless breaks but great to read in a bulk
>>287437237Does season 2 of The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya count? The time loop thing was retarded and I lost all interest in the series there after.
>>287456672Do you even have to ask? Western Zhao Invasion arc, no contest. So glad I didn't pick up the manga until shortly after it ended, I absolutely would've dropped it otherwise.Hara seems to have learned from it at least, every arc since has been very reasonably paced.
Does the boat in Berserk count as a Namek?
>>287441073every country outside of the home one of every media that aired on TV experienced a Namek by this logic
>>287461477"Boat Namek" was a pretty common thing to say back then, so yeah
>>287461477Ch278 to Ch342 in a bimonthly publication with regular hiatuses so yeah, it took 8 and a half years to get off the boat.
>>287461590By the end the bimonthly was pure fiction. Berserk was maybe in like half of the magazine issues or less.Also, I kinda forgot it was actually that long I sort of mentally retconned it to>it couldn't have been that long, we were just memeing because of bad publication schedulebut no, it took way too much total runtime for what it was. Definitely namek
>>287441073There's also the added bonus of animated Dragonball having a fakeout Namek story right before the real one began. Filler writers have no shame in their game.
>>287461898When I said "publication" I meant Young Animal which published twice a month.
>>287461493It was just a Snake Way Namek or something else instead
>>287437237Beauty pageant namek (kanan)VR namek (yumene)
>>287441155I felt the same, I lost track of which channel the anime aired and then I discovered the games (I started with ruby and sapphire) and I never looked back
>>287437237octopus namek has been the worst from recent years in jump
Starting with the isekai arc, every single arc in Tsugumomo has felt like a namek
>>287440411I liked SPEED namek
>>287447837>Mexico from Bleach where they travel but it's all the same black and white desertTo be fair with Hueco Mundo it had a lot more locations than just the desert. There's a portion of the story that is spent in the sand (Grimmjow/Nnoitra/end of Szayelaporro's fight/Yammy), but most of fights happen inside the palace with different rooms and scenarios.
>>287461152The anime adaptation dragged it out a ton, including with filler about encountering aliens on the way to Namek, aliens using illusion powers and pretending their planet was Namek, much more time flying across the planet, filler with Bulma, filler with Ginyu, power-up scenes taking ages, filler with preparing the wishes, and filler with fights (most egregiously with Gohan) during the planet's countdown to exploding. Anime Namek feels like it takes five hours in-story to explode during what Frieza estimated (even if winging it and trying to sound in control) as five minutes. Manga Namek feels like it genuinely explodes soon after its core is destroyed.
>>287440411>>287441073greek namek(yeah that's exactly what happened when SS aired here in monkeyland)
Future Arc in RebornFlashback Arc in Magi
>>287464659until kai fixed namek and it became the best arc in the anime
Lacrosse namek
Culling game namek (JJK)
>>287437237>cavalry namek (prison school)fuck that was brutal get through
>>287437237>when can i see them FUCK so i can immediately drop this manga and never read it againThey're not nameks, you're just a shallow retard. Stick to doujins, you'll be happier.
>>287438637I've actually stopped reading watayuri because the school festival arc is so unbelievably fucking boring
>>287437237magic namek. Not only did it take forever, but it's developments irrevocably altered the series for the worse even before the rushed ending
>>287467929The arc was the peak of the series until Negi vs Rakan, and then it just got worse and worse. Just have Negi defeat Fate after that and leave, holy fuck.
