Decided to re read rave master. Wondering about anons thoughts on the series. If they even remember this series
>>287489506I'm reading a chapter a day on kmanga right now. Still super early but it's pretty fun. Reminds me of early One Piece and Gash Bell. And I like the designs of the characters and artwork.
I never got into it since the title and dub ED made me cringe on contact, and the designs didn't appeal to me. FT later became my favorite manga for several years though, so now I have the Rave manga backlogged in case of a long plane flight.
>>287489506I have full volume of it's physical release. It was one of the first shonen i've ever read. It's pretty basic shonen stuff but i enjoyed it very much
I'd wish for an anime reboot, but people probably wouldn't watch it.
>>287489506This was literally the first manga I ever read. I still think Ten Commandments is the coolest sword ever.
I remember thinking Resha was best girl
>>287489506Reading the manga when I was 9 and getting to the part where the evil demon guy kisses the MC's gf planted a seed in my head that eventually led to my NTR fetish
>>287492883It just won't feel the same without Reel Big Fish. >>287493223I want her to be my valentine.
>>287489506Not everyday you hear bigger name VAs like Tom Kenny do anime. Anywho, always good seeing underrated gems getting some recognition. Let's just hope a certain Fairy fag doesn't find and crash this thread.
The poison element fight freaked me out back then.
>>287489506I liked it more than fairy tail. Kinda felt like a proto series. I always remember the dude with amulet sitting on the tree(?) after the time skip nice page.
>>287493308Based Reel Big Fish enjoyer. >https://youtu.be/UnJa2kZx5GY
>>287489506I remember some guy on YT making a video series about dissecting FT where the last part was about Rave Master and how that's supposedly be the better series according to many, but according to him it's just also does Mashima bullshit all the time after a while. Don't remember the guy or can't find the videos, wonder if they are even still uploaded and available.
>>287489506It peak with the Doryu arc.
Someone lent me vol 1 back in middle school and I enjoyed it, next thing I read was like vol 16 and needless to say I didn't understand shit
>>287494125Nevermind, found it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgb8HE2GHbM
>>287489506I knew there was no way Haru was going to die, but even 20 years later, I still can’t help but wonder, who was he referring to here? Who was meant to become the third Rave Master?
>>287494125>>287494187Oh yeah, I remember that. Guy must at the top of Fairy fag's shitlist, if not close.
>>287494290I heard a rumor that one of the official Japan-exclusive data books revealed it was Elie.
Loved the anime as a kid but never got too far in the manga. I jumped back in recently and I love the Final Fantasy VIII aesthetic, but the entire first third of the manga is filled with "fights" that are ended with Haru coming up with a new attack and one-shotting the enemy.
>>287489506Ok, I can't be the only one to notice any of the King Arthur parallels, right? >humble smalltown boy gets magic sword from old guy to restore justice to a world gone mad >also learns of his father's heated grudge with a powerful warlord>builds a found family of fellow knights in search of a holy object >finds love, but gets NTR'd >gives his life in the final conflict with his sworn enemy, later returns as foretold
I like Lucia as villain. He actually loses to haru during the sacrifar fight and seethes to get better
>>287489506Rave Master is Mashima's magnum opus
>>287494970>Peaks 26 years agoSad, but many such cases
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGQt8x5DQ8EThe anime has great Opening song at least. I never watched past couple first episode. The manga is really good though>>287494933I also like the idea that Haru couldn't unlock the last commandment because Eisenmeteor is Shiba's sword. So Haru needs a final sword of his own
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>>287489506More like Rape Master
>>287495414Bro . . .
>>287494933I do have a certain taste for Mashima villains. EZ had a bunch of good ones (Drakken, Shura, Ziggy), it's just a shame the ultimate mastermind was so undercooked. At least he did better with the real final boss.
>>287495637I really dig Ziggy's look. He's how I imagined Zeref back when Mashima was hyping him up as a proper Sauron analog.
>>287495717Did you also imagine him as Natsu from the future or what? Imagine how that would effect his friendship with Erza.
>>287493918https://youtu.be/W5r3VUulsFo
>>287489506I gained a new appreciation for Rave Master after learning that Elie shares a voice actor with Nodame.
Finally up again and i will say i enjoyed the first 4 volumes. Very fun read even if a bit tropey. The random bullshit arcs were small but to well to extend out travel time.
>>287497123Also, https://youtu.be/A8XwVEAt9Go?list=PLZbsJNSaMrT_UIp2J6ALwOp1lXAcEyOHg for her AND Haru.
>>287497748And Mitsuru was Reina!
>rave masternever stopped hating this english titleit's The Groove Adventure Rave
I read Rave Master in 2018 after watching the anime in like 03 or 04. It was the worst manga I ever forced myself to finish. The plot was just asspull after asspull with a bunch of things happening that the author thought would be cool but were rarely fleshed out enough to be satisfying. The pacing was also really bad. I will say though, Mashima does a great job making you care about the characters. I feel like every member of the main cast got plenty of moments to shine and whenever someone had to job to a new villain, it was done in a way that made them look good. People on this site constantly say Rave Master is better than Fairy Tale but it's really only because of their nostalgia for the series. Any flaws Fairy Tale seems to have were also present in Rave Master.
>>287494290God that part was bad. Is that also the part where in the middle of the fight, the story jumps to a volume long arc about Musica and that silver bending chick?
>>287494933That was one of the highlights for me too, especially because Haru tells Lucia "King would SCHOOL you!". It's refreshing to see a shounen series treat previous arc villains as powerful threats instead of letting powercreep make them look like weaklings
>>287497123>>287497748Plus Haru and Elie's VAs had cameos in Fairy Tail as Happy's parents.
>>287498151Both are wrong. It's just Rave. One word. Like Madonna.
If Belnika is lonely, my shoulder is always free.
WITH A CARROT NOSE DOG?
>>287498517Mashima has done that kind of thing more than I realized.For instance, Fairy Tail did it with Hades. The manga makes it clear that he mainly lost because he was so old that he needed an external power source to give himself unlimited magic. When Franmalth (the cyclops from Tartaros) used Hades' soul, it gave him Hades' magic in its prime, which even Natsu wasn't a match for with his Second Origin unlocked; he only won because he and Lucy took advantage of the shortcomings in Franmalth's own power.Edens Zero is a different story since everyone unlocked their future power levels after U0's NG+ reset, but that didn't happen right away. They still had to struggle against old enemies like the Element 4 and Emperor Nero while they rushed in at their chapter 1 levels first, and since it was inevitable they would start no-diffing all the old enemies again anyway, it was cool that Nero was the one to help them do it so they could stop the big threats.Dead Rock also did something similar with the strongest student at the demon school, a delinquent named Cougar. He basically handed Yakuto the win out of respect, and it was one of the teachers who killed him in the end, but for a while after that, you'd see people bring up how tough he was now and then.
>>287499615Its unfortunate how its tied to talk no jutsu as that is partly one of the ways to not have powerscaling go crazy. Even if it is inevitable.Also off topic, but how was the ending to EZ? i really liked the start but i kinda fell off before then went back in time to U0.
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>>287499794Well, the story did take a nosedive with how rushed everything was, especially with most of the villains getting no-diffed.Plus not only did they go back in time, it was also the "golden ending" timeline like what Chainsaw Man ended with, where (almost) nothing bad ever happened and every named character is alive and well. But if you ask me, it's not as bad as any of the fakeouts FT had, since the story was kind of setting up for that, and the only ones who ever remember the old world are the living EZ crew, anyone else who was on the ship with them, and Rebecca's mom.But the ending itself is decent. Good enough that it bumped it back up a notch, especially the reveals about the origins and true nature of Mother, Shiki, the Four Shining Stars, and the Chronophage. It helps that Mashima had those answers set in stone from the beginning.I'm still not happy with the parts where it dropped the ball, but I'm glad I stuck around to the end.
>>287500221Between this, GaLe and Gruvia, is it really any wonder Mashima's wife left him?
>>287500852We can joke about it all we'd like, but we don't know a thing about why they split, let alone any of Mashima's home life besides gaming and stuff.
>>287500976Yeah, that's fair.
>>287493271Wouldn't be the last time for Michelle Ruff. If you know, you know.
>>287492883I am very cautiously optimistic about the idea.
>>287492883I would love that. Although i would wonder if Mashima would get his new style to be used.
Rave was my first time experiencing a rushed final arc. All the big demon lords getting rushed through in one go. Awful.
>>287498724 Kino take desu.“Rave Master” sounds like a PS1 rhythm game. “The Groove Adventure Rave” sounds like a dollar store One Piece.But just **Rave**? Clean. Punchy. Early 2000s as fuck.Like you pick it up off the shelf and the logo is chrome with lightning bolts and you just know some twink with a giant sword is about to scream about friendship for 30 volumes.One word titles always hit harder. Bleach. Trigun. Berserk. Rave.Mashima peaked when he kept it simple.
I Forgot how early in Haru and Elie Confess to each other.
>>287489506It's pretty good. Mashima's third best work behind Fairy Tail and Monster Hunter Orage(adapt this please).
>>287504845Meanwhile, Lucy is indecisive about the men in her life and Natsu is more compelled by his stomach than his hormones.
>>287505247Yeah. Honestly i think Shiki and Rebecca sorta confessed early as well. Weird how in both the ended series that happened.
>>287492996Same. I still have the first 10 volumes on a shelf somewhere.
>>287489506This is the second manga I ever read, after Keroro Gunsou, and one of the first manga I read to the end.
>>287504845>>287505247>>287505392Come to think of it, Dead Rock had its heroine fall in love with the bad boy hero in the very first chapter.
>>287503321Will he ever go single-title again? Farmagia isn't his work, so it doesn't count.Or does it?
Didn’t the MC’s rival go back to the MC’s home island and fuck the MC’s sister before showing up again later and being like “I’m a good guy now lol”
>>287489506We love Mashima here.
>>287494125He's not wrong. Fairytale is probably better, but both suffer from the same kinds of problems. The biggest of which is Mashima is either really prone to wild retcon swings, which is what it tends to come off as, or not being able to execute on twist reveals, which at least some of it is if his own descriptions of having always planned certain things to be the case are true.Fucking everything about Elie fits into this. The funniest part of which is the guy who found her going "you know, I never thought about it, but actually the lab I found her in did seem weirdly abandoned" out of nowhere when it came time for the second (third?) big twist.
>>287500976The most obvious reason given what we know if he might just be a workaholic. Constantly getting his own chapters out, doing at least one other storyboard, doing work on the side for adaptations or other projects as the original artist/character designer, and also burning through a lot of videogames. That seems hard enough, but if you put in the idea that he was also married, it really seems clear they probably did not spend much time together.
One of my biggest regrets is not being able to finish getting this one.
>>287509245he was kinda good before then but basically.
