It took me a bit, but I'm done, as promised. I'm finally ready to discuss Fate. You can ask me anything you want. I can't wait for Strange/Fake season 2 to come out so I can spend some time talking about it with anons too. I can finally call myself a true Fate fan
>>287508952>anime secondary>didn't even bother with Fate/stay night (2006)https://vocaroo.com/1EzfSobb1iSf
>>287508952you could have just read the vn and would have already been more qualified than 99% of /a/
>>287508952I love Rin.
>>287508952Whats the point of avenger and other corrupted classes, is it because no summonings were correct starting from the third holy grail war? Whats the point of an incorrect summoning? Why do people from the church or similar participate if they just want to destroy magic? Will we connect to angel notes at some point? Why the hell did they want Rin to learn Baijiquan? Her dad being Christian and wanting to participate with Gilgamesh made no sense from the getgo, why? Why are there a ton of Chinese characters as servants now? Theyre cool dont get me wrong, and why was Shirahama allowed to create characters for fgo, knowing she is lgbt?
>>287509486>why was Shirahama allowed to create characters for fgo, knowing she is lgbt?[citation needed]
>>287508952>not even deen stay nightGod damn you. You deprived yourself of best girl.
lads, am I being too silly for being conflicted about playing fate/extra because of pic related? I know it's a different universe and all that but still
>>287509560The only good thing about Extra is unironically the anime's visuals and soundtrack.
>>287508952Let's see>No Deen Fate nor UBW film>No Last Encore>No Case Files>No Babylonia or Camelot films>No Strange FakeI don't feel like Moonlight/Lostroom counts since it's way too tied to fgo, but even as an anime secondary you are still lacking context.
>>287509560This scene only feels like cucking if you pick Archer, otherwise it's just hot lesbian sex
>>287509645damn I wanted to play with Archer but I guess that'll do
>>287509516白浜鴎 look for this with the flag, she changed it but it appears
>>287509560It's not really Rin, it's her bastard niece using her famous aunt as her moon cell avatar. She's actually a blonde.
>>287509516Managed to get better proof: https://twiman.net/user/2952662411/illustShe changed it but it was there before
>>287509486Don’t worry about it.
>>287509714Wow, she's Ukranian as well.
>>287509720Dont leave me hanging, i love the lore of the type moon verse.
>>287509735She isnt but she has made drawings supporting palestine and she had the lgbt sign for a long time.
>>287509758I mean, she had the LGBT and Ukranian flags. If her having the former means she's LGBT (instead of an ally,) then she must be Ukranian as well.
>>287509705No I know but as they say: if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, et cetera et cetera
>>287509774Ok, youve got a point in the ally, the question is why was she allowed to work on fgo? And was it worth it?
>>287509827>the question is why was she allowed to work on fgo?Because they like her art?
>>287508952I don't see the VNs anywhere in that list, redo it and come back later
>>287509849Could it damage the brand? Or type moon in the long run?
>>287509878How so?
>>287508952Go play the VNs before posting here you fucking causal
>>287508952quickly summarize kotomine's motivations and goals throughout zero and heaven's feel
>>287509970This
>>287509916Maybe since Japan doesnt like lgbt or similar stuff
>>287509998Type-Moon, a company known for being shy about those topics in particular.
>>287509970Why did he took an interest in Kiritsugu as his arch rival from the first moment he knew about him? Since according to his goals he wasnt that important
>>287509560Play it.
>>287510028Nero specifically was bisexual according to the information we have, and if its artoria then i take it as a reimagining of the character because he looks more appealing to the japanese market that way, and it worked.
>>287509560Just good ol' mana transfer.I'm more conflicted and confused by this line from CCC.What did they mean by this?!
>>287510070>Nero specifically was bisexual according to the information we haveHe was also a man. I don't think accuracy was actually a concern for them.
I dont like smthe saber class thanks to Artoria, shes too by-the-book good while everyone else is trying to get ahead, is the point of the assassin class to let any magi participate?
>>287509878Dawg, she's the author of one of the best fantasy seinen ever. TM's brand is not hurting from hiring her.
>>287510090I meant the real person, not the character in fate, which was fun to play with, but i thought she was artoria in the beginning.
>>287509970>>287510036In Zero Kotomine doesn't know what to do with his life because there's nothing that brings him joy. So he just jumps from one thing to the other without finishing anything, always abandoning his current objective. Similar to how Kiritsugu jumps from war zone to war zone without caring about his own life. This made Kirei interested in him. In Heaven's Feel Kirei has fully accepted that he only finds joy in people's suffering. And now he wants to bring satan into the world to cause chaos under the excuse that any life deserves an opportunity to exist. He projects himself into Angra Mainyu and wants to see if someone like that can forgive himself once he commits all the evils he wants
>>287510119>I meant the real personI know. The point is that "it was like this in the original myth/history" in Fate is basically has negative weight. Not null weight, negative. That's how irrelevant it is.
>>287510108I knew that, but is it that great?
>>287509486Extra classes aren't corrupted classes, they're just classes you aren't supposed to be able to summon. They do have a purpose within the system but you aren't supposed to summon them as a master. Ruler is meant to be summoned by the grail itself, not a human master.The grail being corrupted allowed anti heroes and impure heroes to be summoned, it didn't cause extra classes to be summoned. At least half of servants summoned in the 4th and 5th war should never have been summoned, they aren't pure heroic spirits, Gilles is definitely an anti hero. Church is just there to mitigate the damage and asess the holy grail whether its legitimate or not, as a neutral entity they volunteered to make sure shit doesn't get too fucked up. Magic Assosiation and Church aren't friends but they do have a working relationship sometimes.Rin's grampa originally wanted to reach the root with kung fu, he didn't care about magic at all. Zelretch thought he was cool and gave him a few magic tricks. The reason Risei and Kotomine know Bajiquan is also due to Rin's ancestor. The families have had a relationship for generations.
Caenis:>(All compassion one moment, the next she's... Huh. What's with this chick? Some kinda samurai thing?) Wait. The hell am I admiring her for!?https://tri-hermes.org/Lostbelt/olympus.html#section-10-thou-art-the-ardor-that-corrupts-the-stars-iiiSanzang:>Whoa, whoa... Wait. Before you get up in arms about my outfit, maybe you should do something about yours? I mean, I can totally see your belly button in that. You're pretty much showing it off, right? And it really calls attention to how perfectly shaped your abs are. Almost like they've been carved out of rock. And that, uh, slit in your skirt? Are you aware of how sexy that look is? 'Cause it's beyond sexy. [...] Even with your navel on full display, huh... But isn't that a swimsuit underneath your– [...] She's telling ME what the Buddha would want!? That's some serious confidence! And what's more, it almost feels like...the gods have blessed her in some way.https://web.archive.org/web/20230930053951/https://grandorder.wiki/Dead_Heat_Summer_Race!/Story#Team_Formation:_Raikou_Encounters_the_Monk_.5BDiamond_Realm_Edition.5DPhantom of the Opera and Marie Antoinette have Siren Song which affect opposite-sex enemies, and can be improven to Shriek from the Palais Garnier B+ and Royal Melody B+, which do not make distinctions of gender.
>>287510135The irony is that both had a wife and descendants to come back to, but wasnt Kotomine trying to find a way to cure his wife from her bone illness? That or cancer, i dont remember too well.
>>287510169>wasnt Kotomine trying to find a way to cure his wife from her bone illnessNo, you completely made this up. Kirei had a terminally ill wife who killed herself once Kirei told her he was never able to love her for real no matter how hard he tried to be normal
>>287509560>>287509645Nah it was cucking no matter what, imagine Tamamo promises herself only to you, and you catch her willingly fucking other people five minutes later. Lesbian or not it was definitely cheating sex that Hakuno watched, and if you watch it play out, you know your servant was getting off to it. Rin even kisses you before she fucks someone else, and your servant says they only love you, before it gets revealed that they got really into fucking Rin/Rani and went above and beyond way longer than was necessary because they got into it. Whether you were into Rin/rani, or whether you were into your servant, you got cucked in both directions there. You can understand Nasu's logic for how the scene happened in the first place, but you can also understand why it was wildly unpopular and its the only thing they promised to change in the remakes because of how it was received, because they turned Hakuno into a canon cuckhold.Its probably why they went the other direction with it in CCC, trying to fix Hakuno's reputation a bit.Tamamo explains the logic earlier in the game how you can skirt across T regulations by not showing too much, Nasu wanted to do a homage to Rin fucking Saber in Fate route as well, but he really didn't think it out enough.
>>287510198Back in the day; in older VN's they would have scenes where the heroine was raped by other men, and old VN writers thought the reader would find it hot no matter what as long as sex was happening, even if it wasn't the protag. Nasu has a very "old school VN" mentality which is very outdated with the current age. They legitimately can't understand why you would care whether its the protagonist doing it or not, they think all sex is the same, whether its the villain doing it or random goblins, for old VN writers sex is sex.
>>287510153This is good, but i expected a bit more depth, what happened to the sisters from the third war? Luvia is a descendant of one of them, and the other? Kotomine did want to win the war? How would the wars have gone if the grail wasnt corrupted? Why is there no pushback? Is it the counterforce? Shirou in the clocktower made no sense for me, he left but why did he enroll? Go deeper with the magic association and church relationship please, the magic association doesnt seem to make any progress at all to reach the root.
>>287510198>>287510241It's just hot. They're both girls and they're already into you. There's no cock involved. It really doesn't matter
>>287510196Ok i had it wrong, so she died, this was before the fourth war, right?
>>287510196The story hints that he does have feelings for her, just not in a way that matters.What I mean is, whether he could feel love or not, he would never be able to recognize whether it was love, and even if he felt it he would receive no pleasure from it since his emotions are reversed to begin with, so even if he felt something, ultimately he could never recognize it, and ultimately it wouldn't matter. However the fact he still ends up thinking about her, and the advice he gives Shirou implies he at least has some misgivings about the situation whether he admits it to himself or not.Even the way he gave Karen up for adoption to not ruin her, even if it worked out terribly, in his own fucked up way was the closest he could get to showing her love. The way mats say that he gave Rin clothes that he wanted to give Karen, clothes that he thought would fit her, indicates he was still thinking about her.The irony with Kotomine is that even if feelings exist he could never consciously understand them because his emotions are too warped to understand it, and they could never give him pleasure. So the thing he was searching for, even if he found it, it wouldn't matter.
>>287509486>Whats the point of avenger and other corrupted classesEach of the extra classes have a different reason for existing. Avengers manifested because of Einzbern family attempting to summon Angra Mainyu as a servant in the Third Fuyuki Holy Grail War changing how the Greater Grail works. The MoonCell one is all BB shenanigans. Those are the only 2 I'd really define as corrupted.>is it because no summonings were correct starting from the third holy grail war?While the Grail became tainted after the third grail war. I wouldn't say no summoning were correct. More like the rules got expanded/more lax. Like objectively Zero's were all pretty much summoned correctly, and some of F/SN's without spoilers. >Whats the point of an incorrect summoning?You'd have to focus this one more or give an example really but in the major instance of incorrect summoning, it's important to remember that Angra Mainyu being incorrect wasn't the point. They wanted it to be correct.> Why do people from the church or similar participate if they just want to destroy magic?The Church DOES NOT want to destroy magic, that's very wrong. They care very much about humanity and the Holy Grail. They have a vested interested in who wins, what wishes, etc, and have teamed up with the Mage Association before.They care about heresy not magecraft but we also don't know much about the church when it comes to the Fate side of the Universe, a lot of it comes from the Tsukihime side.>Will we connect to angel notes at some point?probably not, but there's also a chance given how Nasu likes to connect. V.V being Type-Venus means yeah she could show up in FGO but unless something new about Angel Notes comes out, it's doubtful but also Angel Notes was referenced in Carnival Phantasm>Why the hell did they want Rin to learn Baijiquan?We don't really know the specifics but Kotomine knew Baijiquan, he was her guardian. It's likely that Rin just asked to be taught self-defense.
>>287510290Who was Karen given to? And why was her magic so gruesome?
>>287510336I just remember the church sending executioners against vampires, Ciel being one of the best at it and going all Reeeee heretics but Kotomine was part of both groups and he wamted to win the grail, which didnt make a lot of sense to me, unless he was going to go against them.
>>287509486>Her dad being Christian and wanting to participate with Gilgamesh made no sense from the getgo, why? ? what's the point of this one? Gilgamesh is pretty much a slam dunk pick for winning, if you have the catalyst for him. Why not summon him, he's the King of Heroes and the first one. You have to remember, unless you personally interacted with a servant from a previous war. You're not going to know what that hero is like. Tokiomi had no way of knowing Gilgamesh would be like that. Whereas Waver in any war that summons Gil post zero would be able to tell you about him. >Why are there a ton of Chinese characters as servants now?There's barely 30 out of 466. Given China's history, that seems like a fair amount. >why was Shirahama allowed to create characters for fgo, knowing she is lgbt?Stupid question really.
>>287508952Start with the VNBuy it on steam to support Nasu
>>287510398As we watched, the slam dunk pick didnt really work out.I thought they would go in another direction, is all.I just found it curious if she asked to work with them or type moon asked, there were news about people buying the divine comedy in Japan just to know more about the characters she designed. The books sold out.
>>287510458I mean it did work out, just not for Tokiomi. Gil and Kirei arguably won the war. Gil didn't come out of the gate betraying Tokiomi, it was his constant playing it safe that fucked him over. Gil's not a bad servant to pull if you handle him right. Tokiomi had no idea how to do that. Kirei did. It's why Kirei and him surprisingly work well together.
>>287510431not with that troonslationtakajun did nothing wrong
>>287508952>no VNyou should have just watched 10 second tiktok clips and called it a day
>>287510546Wath was the point of having touko in the ending, will they do something more with her and her sister? The movie will tell us how they both started out, but will they continue their stories at some point?
>>287509136Everybody loves Rin!
>>287508952What was your favorite show? What was your least favorite? What was the best part?Who's the best character? Who's the worst?Did you read the VN?
>>287510616In HF? She built a puppet body of Shirou to house his soul.
>>287510616I assume you mean the HF's movie. Touko is who they got Shirou's new puppet body from. Mahoyo does deal with both of the sisters but Touko has a lot in Kara no Kyoukai, which I'd recommend. Whether or not their stories will continue depends if Mahoyo 2 ever sees the light of day. Tsukihime 2 will come out first (if ever) but after that, we don't really know what's next. I hope it'll be Mahoyo 2 since that's what Nasu really is interested in doing.
>>287510685Ok, but will there be anything new with her sister and her? Or are they just fanservice characters at this point
>>287508952You didn't read the FSN VNs?I gotta tell you man (and I'm not saying you're not a Fate fan, I mean I didn't even get to Zero or Illya. And your experience is valid) Ufotable and Deen were dog shit in their own unique ways. I just finished reading the VNs and watching the anime and was really disappointed with the anime. Ufotable's fate can't even be considered fate, it's some bastardized version that only has animations of fights of entities with no agency, character or humanity, and non battle scenes with puppets flapping their mouths soullessly without expression.I give FSN (VN) a very solid 8, would probably have been a 9 probably but I can't be very objective as I was spoiled by basically every major plot point on /a/ and /v/.
>>287510431But I don’t want to support Nasu.
>>287510260>what happened to the sisters from the third war? Luvia is a descendant of one of them, and the other?It's implied that modern Tohsakas are descended from her. Due to the two sisters having terrible relationship, one of them went back to Finland, but the other stayed in Japan and married into the Tohsakas. This added to build up the current Edelfelt resentment towards Japan, the Holy Grail War ritual, and Tohsaka family in particular.
>>287510863>Ufotable's fate can't even be considered fate, it's some bastardized version that only has animations of fights of entities with no agency, character or humanity, and non battle scenes with puppets flapping their mouths soullessly without expression.the unlimited budget works meme was a mistake
>>287508952Fate is just amwf propaganda.>FSN has female king Arthur give her virginity to a Japanese high school boy>Medea instantly forgets her marriage to the Greek hero Jason to get bred by a Japanese kungfu wobbly fist master>Medusa gets wet thinking about Japanese dick>Tohsaka ancestor implied to have married and impregnated an Edelfelt Sister from the 3rd Grail War>Kotomine's white wife literally dies trying to fix him>FZ has a prestigious German family hire a Japanese mage to impregnate their crown jewel, he also happens to have a devout assistant who happily serves as his stress relief>FApoc has the queen of ancient kingdom fall in love with a literallywho Japanese>FE has a Roman empress fall in love with a Japanese boy>FGO goes hard with this, Japanese teenager/college student/shota is sought after by female knights, goddesses, witches, queens/empresses, etc.
>>287510863I generally like the Fate shows, but this is correct.
>>287508952>No Carnival PhantasmHoly new
>>287510980Are they cousins?
>>287510075Mate is this some kind of shitty AI filter or are you playing on some weird ass settings?
>>287510039>TamamoTbf Hakuno isn't that much into her, seeing by how hard it is to even enter Tamamo's route
>>287510140Yes, barring some minor pacing issues.
>>287508952>I can finally call myself a true Fate fan>never touched any of the novelsYep, checks out!
>>287509558I can't fucking believe Stay Night lured in me, and then the series was never as good as Stay Night ever again
>>287508952>didn't read the two VNsSo you watched a lot of fanfics just to participate in discussions where you’re a secondary and don’t belong? What a waste of time.
>>287509758Link to her Palestine art? I'm curious. Taking it all into account since she hit the trifecta of big virtue signal trains of the last few years she couldn't just been trying to do just that. Did she have an online presence back when the: "I stand with Paris" crap was happening?
>>287509998They're pretty chill about separating the art from the artist, especially in what I'm assuming was a freelance sense.
>>287510140From what I've seen, better than Type Moon
>>287511627 here:https://x.com/shirahamakamome/status/1744739999936073875
>>287511670No, but it was the first time i saw a Japanese artist care about something international, which was weird, since they dont really care about it.
>>287511641Wish i knew how to do this.
What happened to DDD?
>>287511725dead, the remains were cannibalized by FGO
>>287511749Understandable, pretty good actually, what happens if they retire? Theyve made enough money for that
>>287511556Rin's small tiddies teheee eksde
>>287508952https://youtu.be/ffE1-RTTpTE?si=aAP_Pc04BgmNenGlBe like Richard, actually engage with the source
>>287509486>be LGBT>design a servant based on the chuddest Christian who existed
>>287509486>and why was Shirahama allowed to create characters for fgo, knowing she is lgbt?Rin is literally canonically bisexual, you fucking anime-only cunt.
>>287511169With the HD Remaster Mod (apparently made by AI). It loses the "soul" of crusty PSP visuals, but I'm fine with it
>>287509698 >>287509714 >>287509758 >>287511627 >>287509758Why does this upset you so much? Grow up, you fucking manchild.
>>287508952Dumb secondary.
>>287509136So does Shirou
>>287511085They are. In one of the spinoffs when Tokiomi finds out that Zouken wasn't going to train Sakura as his heir like he promised, he sends her to her Finland cousins so they could train her.I don't know if Rin and Luvia know they are related.
>>287508952How do you feel about the fact that single most powerful character in fiction is Aoko Aozaki?
>>287508952>didn't read the VNyou are not ready to participate in Fate threads
>>287514031I think you have too much faith on the average poster
>>287514123your average poster isn't ready either. that's why the threads are so bad
Bane?
>>287508952Delete the Prismaslop, trash series
>>287514011
I enjoy how Extra sticks to the basic idea of information about your enemy servant being the key to victory and how Rhino 2 is the smartest master you fight against (if you save Rani).
>>287511400Same, FSN Fate route lured me in, and then I liked Fate less and less
>>287509560>>287510198What is it with Fate and cuckshit, even the gacha does this kinda shit with every girl
>>287517297Fate is not a shy series.Where a chinese gacha has a fragile audience that it would fear to anger or distress, Fate is purely a passion project that became a mega-hit by merit of its qualities. Yes, yes, smug anime react all you want, but whether the qualities are substantial or simply perceived, they're still the backbone of its success. It did not succeed from some kind of marketing blitz or from carefully curated designs by committee.Following that, the artist's passions are paramount. Nasu loves tumultuous emotions. Death, fear, and loss are part of it. So yeah, that also includes teasing the player about the characters loves and bonds. It never really means anything; nobody's ever been truly cuckolded in all of Fate. Fate/Extra's mana transfer scene is the closest to it, and it wasn't made a big deal of because it was a girl doing it.
>>287517585>nobody's ever been truly cuckolded in all of FateSaber's backstory (which is the most important in the VN), Diarmuid's... you might also count Rin dating other men in both HF endings even though it's not her route
TOHSAKA'S HOLE
>>287511015Yeah...>>287511022Same...As a new fan I'm definitely just being a broken record of decades of Fate fans but it's really a shame that, for example, some people think "oh okay I should watch Fate/Zero then UBW then HF and skip Deen and Ufotable did a great job so I don't need to read the VN". But I don't know why I'm getting all bothered over this hypothetical. Well, I sometimes watch reactions, tohoho... so that's the only reason, but regardless, I suppose there's no point in being affected by what others do.Either way though we can all agree that Saber is cute!!!! Right?
>>287517776Okay I more meant main characters, obviously there's going to be some stuff from mythology.
>>287517898Saber is cute. The cutest, the sexiest, AND the strongest. She is the crowning achievement of TM and all of mankind.
>>287519067okay but what if i confiscate her lion plushie
>>287519104You would not live to see the next sunrise.
>>287517585>Actually my gacha is high art and a passion projectlol
>>287519067glad to see more saberbros in any case
>>287519148I won't do it then...Also who painted her lion like that.... that's a crime!>>287520493glad to see you!
>>287508952Sorry, you need to go back and read the source materials.
Excuse me but a decade for a 2 season show is simply unforgiveable. Take your project elsewhere simply put.
>>287508952i just finished Mahoyo so i'm officially better than all of you plebshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nTGcpO2NsY
>>287519280High art is questionable, but a passion project it most certainly is and no amount of smugness will be an actual retort.
Long time fatefag here. Haven't bothered with Strange Fake because most fateshit after Stay Night disappoints me.Is SF more like F/SN or F/Z? If it's inspired by Zero I'm not interested.Gilgamesh being present already makes me roll my damn eyes.
>>287521764Modern Fate is literally>REMEMBER [THING]?!?!?!1 WE JUST REFERENCED IT PLEASE GIVE US MONEYYYY
>>287514011doesnt matterAlice is way cuter
zero is the best fate
>>287522261It's not bad but F/SN is better written.
>>287511019Where's the amwf propaganda in Kaleid?
>>287521764Strange Fake is more like Baccano than anything because Narita loves his spotlight roulette trick.It references Zero and Stay Night plenty but it's not much like either.
>>287521764>Whiny "Why isn't every single thing just Zero" postdidn't read
>>287522518yeah we can tell.
KotomineKirei
>>287508952I'm currently reading the VN; I'm gonna watch the series after I'm done. Easy read, btw. It flies by. My only complaint is that there are a few instances when the author repeats information when it really isn't needed, especially when it comes to the mechanism behind the magic and so on. But other than that, it's fine.
>>287510594>takajun did nothing wrongIs takajun special?
I'm pretty sure I've experienced Fate in the optimal way. I haven't touched the VN, but I watched Fate/Zero and masturbate to a lot of hentai of the cups. I know almost nothing that's going on and I'm probably better off for it.
>>287523928You probably are better off for it, but that's definitely not optimal. You only saw best girl out of character and at her worst.
>>287523997Fair enough. For some reason despite picrel I thought you meant Illya for a second and was ready to say that she may be out of character but the hentai probably isn't her at her worst since I don't go looking at sicko fetish shit.
>>287524085It applies to Illya too honestly. Prillya is not Illya, Kuro is the closest but none of the cups reach the same standard as the original. There aren't many OG Illya doujins compared to the main girls, and most of the prillya doujins are disgusting ugly fat bastard prostitution or NTR shit or FGO focused with Ritsuka. Basically all trash.
>>287521764It's a series of lame fights with nonsense fat paced dialogue sprinkled between.
>>287509560>>287510039>>287510075NTR franchise, NTR heroines. Fate/Stay Cucked
>>287523470>He's playing the censored versionHF sucks without the sex scenes.
>>287508952>no deen/stay nightYou're not ready.
>>287524625>the character based on a consort isn't... le heckin pure virgin... how could this happen...
>>287524613>fat paced dialogueMust be slow since fat people are slow.
>>287508952>It took me a bit, but I'm done, as promised. I'm finally ready to discuss Fatelol. you didn't need to do that
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>>287523470>Censored Anon....nasu only wrote this story to justify the mana transfer scenesYou're only 20 hours in you can still experience the story as intended
>>287508952>Began with Fate/ZeroRIP. You ruined your Fate experience forever.
>>287510863I like Deen Fate because of the anime original stuff like Berserk vs Archer and Gil vs Cu
>>287528750why are people still passing on this blatant lie? I want tourists to fuck off.
>>287526712Why the fuck didn’t they show the whole thing!?
>>287510863I watched UBW anime, then played UBW route. I was bored out of my mind with VN, basically zero differences. Well, except for painfully detailed descriptions of every meal preparations and every meal eating. It's no wonder there's a cooking spin-off. (Most important thing anime cut off is Tiger comedy stuff).Experiencing Fate route is mandatory, tho. You SHOULDN'T watch Fate/Zero if you never experiences Fate route. Some say watching DEEN is enough for Fate, but I never watched DEEN, so I can't comment.HF movies basically cut off all of Shirou's mental suffering and gradual destruction of his mind.
>>287530098>HF movies basically cut off all of Shirou's mental suffering and gradual destruction of his mind.I'll never forgive it for that. HF had some really good moments and the movies made sure to cut as many of them as they could.
>>287530699It was still there, they just tried to convey it non verbally. During the knife scene you see the anguish and the voices, but you don't get the internal monologue. When his body becomes swords you get a few moments where he can't remember peoples names anymore and he's clearly broken, but you don't have it said directly. So anyone that didn't play the game probably won't understand it the same.
>>287530724Hardly. UBW did very well with non-verbal hints and articulating what the VN said in plain words. The HF movies were not like that for anyone outside of Sakura, least of all Shirou. He hesitates when talking to Rider's name, but you don't see him slowly losing his mind after he uses NLBW.He's supposed to be growing swords from inside during the Saber Alter fight but in the movies he only pops them out mid-Kotomine.
>>287530548I fucking love this scene.
>>287530724in the movies ufotable constantly made shirou do these overly constipated bitch faces to convey shock. It's annoying and out of character.
>>287530548saber got back up and pwn'd her
>>287531077I swear you people complain about the weirdest, most retarded things
>>287530548I assure you dear watcher, the extended scene watching her sweat and the shots from under her are absolutely for the plot, the ass grab is a metaphor for the protagonists struggle
>>287531077At least movies are more fathful to VN than butchered realta nua/remastered version. I don't get it, if anime movies are allowed to show that sex happened, mention rape, and display penis worms, why VN was not allowed? Is this catering to lowest common denominator (Nintendo/Germany/Australia)? That's fucking retarded, VN already features flags, just make it function different on PC from Switch.
>>287531083Saber literally didn't do anything during that entire fight though? She defeats 1 (one) servant during UBW
>>287531179It's also extremely hot.
>>287531205It's a dark souls meme. It means she in fact did not get back up and pwn her. But she won in my heart, no attempt at defilement can tarnish her.
>>287531190(((all-ages))) is an insidious poison
I have FSN characters fatigue. Especially Rin.
>>287531457Couldn't be me.
>>287508952>I can finally call myself a true Fate fanYou can't say that unless you read the VN.
>>287531599
>>287531599is this canon?
>>287520949true.
>>287508952>I can't wait for Strange/Fake season 2I just watch it for the eyecandy, one of the reasons I love anime is because of animation. And the show delivered in spades, I was particularly happy that they finally had the good sense of ditching Ufotable. Unfortunately, it's embarrassing Fateshit as usual, there's nothing good about the story.
>>287530098Tiger comedy stuff is great yes.>basically zero differenceswould have to disagree, the only decent thing in the anime was the big climactic fight but everything else was boring as fuck, none of the emotions or ideas were conveyedOtherwise I agree with youespecially the last sentence as this anon agreed with too >>287530699
>>287508952i dont give a damn about fate
>>287512964When Gaius Julius Caesar was still a very young man, he visited a temple with friends of his. And in that temple there was a statue of Alexander the Great, in front of which the young Gaius stood contemplatively and then openly wept, a very shameful act. His friends then came to him and asked why he was crying. "You see, I'm already past 16 years of age, and I have not accomplished anything comparable to Alexander".You call Richard the Lionheart a "chud", but if you knew the history of his many accomplishments, his many acts of pious virtue, if there was any humility in your heart, you would also feel shame. It's quite unfortunate that we've lost the sense of veneration for the great men of history, and this is unfortunately expressed in popular flanderizing media like Fateshit.
>>287532595>but everything else was boring as fuck, none of the emotions or ideas were conveyedI doubt anyone who says this liked the route in the VN in the first place. It's as good as an adaptation can get.
>Shirou is supposed to be completely broken, twisted and empty, more of an automaton than a human being, like that’s all there is to his character>He still easily falls in love like a normal person in all three routesExplain this
>>287533341Love transcends all.
Artorium ParticlesArtorium Particles (アルトリウム粒子, Arutoriumu Ryūshi?, localized as Altrium) can be found in superdense energy crystals, it glimmers brightly.[1]
>>287533394Is love the path to the Root?
>>287533530Who knows. I know that just being extremely skilled gets you close to the Root, even if you're not a magecraft user.
>>287522449Check Illya's lineage and the lust women have for Shirou
>>287533341Him being broken is overestimated by fans, same for Sakura too.The only truly broken character is Archer, and maybe Saber.
>>287532819Completely false.The easiest way to show this is to look at the facial expressions. S2E1 is supposed to be an emotionally intense moment (not saying it has to be melodrama or anything), and Ufotable just draws these soulless faces that look likeO O < △
Why did you watch illya instead of casefiles
>>287532819And I'm not a fan of JJK, but look at the facial expressions in there. Ufotable completely jizzed out all their budget (I mean time and labor and talent budget, not some meme money budget value) on the wrong things (drawing 10000 frames for a heartless battle scene rather than 8000)
>>287532819>sore, doushite?!>how do you have that?!look at how surprised and compelling the facial expressions are!also since it's a scene about the jewel, ufotable made shit so fucking obvious with all the close up shots of it early on. same with their eyebrows of the character designs of shirou.
>>287532819Oh and by drawing 10000 frames rather than 8000 I should clarify that I mean tracing 10000 rotoscoped 3d models and then barely having good direction but just relying on the impressive fluidity of the action - this is easiest to show in kimetsu no yaiba where the character is just spinning or wobbling around and it's not even well-directed but each frame looks beautiful and the motion is EXTREMELY fluid like those Monogatari/SHAFT zooms, they (Ufotable) waste all their effort on dumb shit like that.
>>287532819Lastly, I like KnY, I like Fate, I just dislike Ufotable.However everyone who likes any incarnation of Fate is a Fate fan, I'm not here to try to just start fights with people. I just got a bit heated because you insinuated I don't like the route at all as if it's impossible to complain about the adaptation if I liked the route in the VN.
qrd on facial expressions schizo?
>>287508952>fate zero first go watch it in release order and comeback
>>287529672this pic is just confirming his point, are you retarded?
I have stopped by to say:I want to fuck Archer.That is all, have a good day!
Big foxfu.
>>287532647Richard was designed by Morii. He's talking about Dante. (I had to look up who Shirahama is and which servant they designed; what a weirdly specific nemesis for Anon to have. Also, Dante's event is one of the few I missed, since it was OC3-gated.)
What the fuck do the worms do again?
Is there a fucking saberface in every grail war?At least the animated onesFSN has ArtoriaFZ has ArtoriaApocrypha has MordredExtra has NeroFSF has gray
rereading Fate route after finishing the series make it much more enjoyable because you pick up clues unlike your first reading.
>>287536553Samurai Remnant has TakeruRedline has OkitaBoth Sabers, too.
sword and sheathe
>>287535921What is her lore again? Original concept of Beasts?
>>287536553I guess Saber is the face of the grail war!
>trying to buy an Ayaka standee for my Richard >sold out on day2>before Richard, Gil and Enkidu what the fuck
>>287539285Does the Ayaka have a skirt that you can look up? That’s why if so.
>>287536553Heian Kyo has no saberface, but it's only got an animated trailer.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5I9Z2fmgHc
>>287511019>Fate is just amwf propaganda.This is undeniably true, but I do remember seeing an interesting theory and analysis of Shirou and that he was actually halfwhite or fully Irish or something, I can't remember exactly. I saw it one time in one of these threads years ago, should have saved it. It's was probably pvre copivm but it was fun.
>>287539477That mentally ill retard has been posting that copypasta every fate thread he sees for literal years, and there are still people seriously replying to him.
>>287539342it's just the flat black dress standee
Fate
I am still desperate for a Second Grail War series. It could have all the coolest shit.>1860's so takes place in the middle of the Japanese Civil War>No Church keeping the Mages in line so they are obviously gonna bring help and act completely outside of the "rules">Einzbern's eat shit day 1>Relics would probably all be tied to the historical backgrounds of the participants since this is the first proper war so there's been no extensive hunt for shit like Gil's key>Everyone diesI want Shinsengumi, Americans and European sailors, a Chinese Mage sneaking in and stealing one of the slots and rolling something like Berserker with the express goal of getting revenge for the Opium Wars, and Clocktower shenanigans.
>>287538774No, the original concept of beasts is based on the Biblical "Beast of Revelation" and mother harlot. Why do you think they're called beasts? Half of beast abilities are straight up stolen from the Biblical beast. The first Beast to show up in the franchise was Beast of revelation in Fate Prototype prequel, even though it failed to fully manifest, it was always the thing that Nasu based the concept on. Even though he's done a terrible job actually showcasing the thing that the concept was based on. Draco event kinda sucked, also Nero in reality has nothing to do with the biblical beast of revelation which shows up in the end times, fucking Manaka is a better demonstration of what mother harlot actually is. The nero theory was always a bad theory that honestly had nothing to do with anything.No that's Ameratsu, which according to Type Moon lore Nine Tails fox and Ameratsu were the samefag all along, and actually Ameratsu was a bad guy that wanted to destroy Japan a lot. Its basically Nasu's ultimate wank towards Japan, because he claims Ameratsu is above all gods to ever exist because she's a sun god, which is something no other religion has.
>>287509136Lesbian Goddess
>>287510662least favorite UBW. I love Rin, she is my favorite character but I don't like her being shipped with a guy. My favorite is perhaps Deen Stay Night (for the Rin x Saber scene and the Rin x Sakura sister bonding and for how how Rin looks in the Deen design) or Fate Zero.
>>287542691Also Ameratsu isn't a beast as far as we know but facets of her can become beastsDaji is confirmed a beastNine Tails, maybe>But aren't nine tails and Ameratsu the samefag?Its complicated, japanese believe things can be the same thing and also different at the same timeIndians also believe this
>>287509560That scene makes me want to play Extra.
>>287509560>Uhh this is cuck because rin shoiuld only fuck Shirou???? even though its not actually rinIts cuck but not for the reasons you think
>>287510662>What was your favorite show? Heaven's Feel. With Zero and Oath Under Snow on the top three.>What was your least favorite?Case Files.>What was the best part?Shirou and Sakura under the rain. Shirou and Sakura kissing. Shirou and Sakura hugging. Shirou and Sakura holding hands.>Who's the best character? My wife Sakura no doubt.>Did you read the VN?Of course, pic related.
>>287540153But she has a skirt that you can look up, right?
>>287542543Okita would be alive
>>287544293Based.
sakura is a cringe boring doormat, rin is 100 times more fun
>>287511019What did Nasu mean by this?
>>287530705Rubbing her cunt on the leg. Amazing
>>287542691While Amaterasu is wanked, Tamamo also exaggerates her deeds. She claims that she could have handled Sefar and yet she went away and hid from it and we know for a fact that it would have taken her alongside all the other gods if Excalibur wasn't used to stop it.She's never said to be stronger than all the other gods or anything like that. Becoming a beast is a phenomena manifesting in someone rather than just brute strength.
>>287530705God I love AI.
>>287546451?
>>287546451That's not AI. How dare you not know about Prisma Illya, the best Fate spinoff!
>>287546698I’ve seen Prisma Illya and I don’t remember that particular incident of Kuro kissing Illya for mana, plus Miyu reacting like that-as in not being a plank of wood-seems OOO. Unless it was in season 3.
>>287546698>>287546735I haven’t seen Prisma Illya Phantasm or whatever if it’s from that, just the four main seasons.
>>287546735>>287546776This doesn't explain why you'd think it's AI though. AI could never create something that beautiful
>>287546811ORLY?
>>287546811Ok, where’s it from?
>>287546451Holy fuck.
>>287546857It's from Prisma Illya (Fate Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya to be precise)
>>287546832That looks like shit compared to >>287530705Are you fucking serious?
>>287547031What episode?
>>287542543Doubling down on this, imagine tying this into the Bombardment of Kagoshima by swapping it to Fuyuki and having the British navy blast the hell out of the masters (likely due to manipulation of the invited Clock Tower mages).
>>287547563Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya 2wei!: Mahou Shoujo in Onsen RyokouIt's a OVA
>>287547027I think this is UBW's best scene because it's the one scene where you can see Rin is Tokiomi's daughter.
>>287548861Thank you anon.
Tokiomi was kind of a badass I wish did more, one day when the prequel to the prequel comes out when we get more kiri he can do something in it
>>287509622Case Files is dogshit
>>287549612And Adventure is apparently even worse, to the point it doesn’t even have an official English translation.
>>287530705So this is the peak of Fate, huh.
fate zero is the only good fate
>>287549725All the servants and lore are just cover for the fact Fate is a gooner franchise at its core. Prisma Illya gave the game away.
>>287549772That was always a ragebait meme, but not even the three or four actual zerofags can seriously say that anymore. FSF mogs FZ in everything it tried to do.
>>287549612Case Files is good as an idea but the execution is terrible.
>>287550224I'm interested to know what the hell you mean by this, because FSF is a rushed mess with a bloated cast and no clear direction. It's very different to the cohesive story focused on personal conflicts that Fate Zero was. And the animation isn't as good either
Illya lesbian sex
>>287508952Arguably Deen Stay Night is also worth watching.
