Mobile suits could all be replaced with fighter jets, and nothing about the story would change. But you're not ready to have that conversation.
But robots are cooler.
didn't ask faggot
>>287515647I mean, they're really not.
That's already acknowledged in most Gundam series. In UC its explicit that if minovsky particles (a material that disrupts long range radio waves) didn't exist then mobile suits would be unnecessary and humanity would revert back to guided missile spam.
>>287515622jets suck at melee combat
Even the realest of real robots can be obari as fuck,and yet as a fighter jet lover, I cannot say that any fighter jet can embody obari as fuck at all.Fighter jets exude a different form of the spirit of the pilot. This leads to a difference in the way the themes of a narrative are delivered, in that when two mobile suits clash, it is a clash of all aspects of a character at once, whereas when fighter jets dance in the sky, there is an overt feeling of 'resignation from the pilots' over the fact that all that they can do is inflict absolute destruction in order to further their will. In Gundam and other mecha franchises, this resignation often shows up early, but is then is eliminated mid-series due to a realization by the protagonist that they do not, in fact, 'need' to inflict absolute destruction.
>>287515877what are your thoughts on Argento Soma?
One of the problematic elements of mecha that people don't talk about is how they make infantry narratively pointless. Titanfall is one of the few settings that strike the balance of makings useful without making ground troops pointless. >>287515877>Obari as fuckThat could mean a lot of things. You're gonna need to clarify.
>>287515622There would a lot more singing and one of the jets would become a transformers character
>>287516063Infantry is for killing infantry cause mechs are expensive and hard to makeTanks exist to kill mechs cheaply,kill other tanks,buildings,convoys etcMost op implement of war we have is a big drone with a big bomb piloted by a guy two countries awayEven then its a matter of time and gear until drone meta stops being op and becomes another toolNothing is ever obsolete,just unfit for particular setting and task
>>287516063>That could mean a lot of things. You're gonna need to clarify.If you need clarity you don't understand
>>287517808>tanksMechs have the ability to dodge tank rounds.
>>287515786This is why Tomino said he regrets creating funnels, they're just tiny jets which makes them infinitely better than any other weapon besides Moonlight Butterfly or similar bullshit like the black hole beam cannon from G-Reco.
>>287518977Nothing stops you from buying a t34 and giving it armored core style dodge boostersI would go with JATO rockets
>>287517730But would we remember love?
>>287519621>Nothing stops you from buying a t34 and giving it armored core style dodge boostersExcept, y'know, PHYSICS.
>>287515622>But you're not ready to have that conversation.That conversation was had as early as Victory Gundam. Everyone agreed mechs were still cooler.But you're not ready to have that conversation.
>>287520714Victory had those asinine helicopter beam sabers which I am almost certain Star Wars would later rip off. Victory doesn't get to be part of this discussion.
>>287515622>fighter jets,u mean rike robotech?
>>287516063>One of the problematic elements of mecha that people don't talk about is how they make infantry narratively pointless.you need 'boots on the ground'you can't WFH and do missions by robot proxy or like clear out an area and then land there later when everyone's deadfrom a diplomatic standpoint and military one you need *people* there
>>287521193None of that matters. If you attempt to show an infantry fight, the audience will fast forward through it because it's not robots.
>>287519621A few of those were tried but even if they were pretty sick never really amounted to much.
>>287516063>One of the problematic elements of mecha that people don't talk about is how they make infantry narratively pointless.Real robots are downstream of Starship Troopers, which is about infantry getting the capability to do everything else the military does so boots on the ground is the only thing you need (which has effects on the relation of military potential to democratic government etc). Toy companies just didn't like the scale but if you imagine the Gundams (Mobile Infantry Suits) are all just powersuits everything snaps into place.
>>287521517the type of person who fast forwards/watches in 3x speed won't pick up mecha in the first placethere's a sense of purity in the mecha demographic which is gatekept by actual autism and this is a good thing
Why do you need a pilot inside a giant robot? Surely you can control it remotely just as well.
>>287522243You'd need a really long wire or something because of Minovski particles.
>>287519894Just launch the T34 into space. Simple as that.
>>287523121... Anon, you're an idiot.
>>287521699>if you imagine the Gundams (Mobile Infantry Suits) are all just powersuits everything snaps into place.Considering that was the original idea before the executives forced their bullshit, it's not that hard to picture. It's why they're called mobile SUITS after all.
>>287526335>before the executives forced their bullshitsource? did tomino say that in an interview?
>>287526832The interview has been lost to time, but it makes far too much sense.
>>287522243Because remote control is for gays and pussies
>>287515622You're describing zeta and zz gundam
>>287526335I've always felt that it could've been the very original idea for this series, before it turned to a regular mecha with giant robots.
>>287515622That's just VF.
>>287515647Thread should have ended here.
>>287528904Shut the fuck up Treize! It's cheaper and easier to just replace a whole unit than recruit and train a single personnel.
>>287519042source?
>>287528904If that's how you feel, why are you stomping around in a big mech instead of just armor?
