What are some signs that a manga is written by someone with very little life experience?
married couple too shy to hold hands
>>287546512That's just a Scanners reference.
When you read Tsukihime or Fate sex scenes.
the vast majority of action series are written by people whose only experience with battles are videogamesI'm not even talking about the fantasy ones, just action in general
>>287546615Are you suggesting that child soldiers from central Africa or hardened mercenaries should write manga instead?Japan is a country that has not seen war or strife for 80 years.
>>287546512this works btw
>>287546720does it cure salesfaggotry?
>>287546615so far, this is the stupidest one.
>>287546615>>287546635That reminds me of a story about this D&D-like game, Pathfinder. The fat autistic game designers wrote rules based around what they could personally do, physically. 1e weapon cords were basically useless gear because one of the landwhales tried larping out with one and it was impossible for him to use it effectively. I wonder why.
>>287546720Old methods of healthcare still do work in some cases even if they were overused in the past. They still will drill holes in people's heads in some cases to lower pressure. And bloodletting is still sometimes used through leeches for some things. And while I don't know if putting maggots in a wound to get rid of the dead skin is something they did in the past, that's something that also has some utility despite how barbaric it seems. It's kind of like telling someone that boiling water is still a major method of power generation.
>>287546512Someone whose romance and character interactions are clearly built from stories and games and shows and nothing feels real.
>>287546635>Child soldiersUnironically I'm reminded of someone posting about a story written by a former child soldier about a sheep forced to fight or something. Never touched it and hardly remember it but I think that probably does give an interesting perspective, yeah.
>>287546635honestly a manga from a child soldier would be pretty unhinged and thus interesting. like half the interviews with dudes who personally killed women and children in the rwandan genocide were like>bro that was pretty fun, was i not supposed to do that????
>>287546512reads manga on mangafox
>>287546913from what i hear a lot of those guys suffer from repressed trauma (excluding the few psychopaths that find their way into any warzone)
>>287546939you can't read
>>287546959He'd be insulted if he could read this.
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>>287546941Usually because they are guilt tripped by their environment and peers 24/7 in peaceful areas. Human psyche is insanely adaptable.Back when they were able to accept their actions as simply part of life they were happier than when "saved" and told they were monsters all along.
>>287546978I don't see any image in this post.
>>287546581>Shiki and Ciel having a lovey-dovey first time in the midst of a dangerous period >round two anal
>>287546997I find this to be a very naive view of human psychology, especially from someone who has never gone through the act of killing someone.
>>287547003I do own that image I own that girl
>>287546809>And while I don't know if putting maggots in a wound to get rid of the dead skin is something they did in the pastIt was mostly something that happened. It is not like they were trying to get their wounds covered in maggots but it is one of those cases were "doing nothing" was better than getting amputated by the town barber.
>>287547032Kensuke...
>>287546913>>287546941https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Act_of_Killingwatch this documentary.
>>287547032>>287547040don't summon him, seriously.
>>287546872>Never touched it and hardly remember itThen it probably wasn't all that interesting
>>287547055Yeaaah that's the one I had in the back of my mind, learned about it from Chris Hedge's book. There is a guy who seems all chill about the genociding he did but the cracks start to show over time.
>>287546512Any time something is "just like a videogame"
"Life experience" is a weird term to use nowadays because lifestyles vary a lot more now than they did in the past.Everyone has "life experience", but what that experience is varies greatly from person to person
>>287547158many successful people speak about life as a game and treat it as such
>>287547220I wouldn't call all those e-celeb podcasters you watch "successful"
>>287547158My life has gotten a lot better since I started acting like it's a game or xianxia wn
>>287547237Why the sudden projection?
>romance manga centered around teenagers >they say "I love you" and take it seriously Even the non comedic ones do this.
>>287547215It is a fitting term when you consider a lot of the common complains that fall under that umbrella are a product of retards lacking the life experience to understand what the author is going for
>>287547220A game is different from a videogame. Using Dragonquest, rpgs, or an MMO as shorthand for building an interesting setting or something difficult and complex like learning a skill is the surest sign the author lacks the experience to convey something real.
>>287547287>to convey something real.maybe they like videogames and want to make something videogame-like? not all fiction is serious business
>>287547276Sounds like someone is still bitter about missing out on prime teen love.
>>287546512>story ends after kiss or sex
>>287547276Taking mundane experiences as life changing events is a staple of being a teenager. They all think their one night fling is going to be their lifelong wife.
>>287547299I would believe that if shitty isekai #1-125363867 were in depth explorations of the topic and not just an excuse to have a generic fantasy setting where the self insert has a number that can increment up. Get real man.
>>287547363anon, they're japanese: sex is rare
>>287547381you're showing your low life experience right now
>>287547390>source: it came to me in a dream
>>287546720>>287546809Trepanning is real but that Fisher Price shit would take all day to go through a skull.
>>287546809nuclear power isn't "major" or modern?
>>287546512Writing moments like this as anything but pathetic and socially awkwardGuy characters getting socially manhandled by women and every person going "thats how it is"Harems because they are just a tremendously poor concept for being with peopleA narrative to just believe in people because essentially kindness can fix themBeautiful women going dateless,friendless and just generally not having a social life outside of Fuckboi-kun who doesnt ask her out for a full school year.Honestly Jap writers in general majorly give off the vibe that they have no idea how to handle women romantically. Even some of the chick writers fuck it up too like Rumiko. All that god damn ass tiring ass drama and the guys doing constant bumbling and not fucking.
>>287547463no shittheir birth rates are nonexistant
>>287546913considering the demographics and rivalry between tribes doesnt surprise me in the slightest
>girl likes male simply because he’s nice It’s such a basic human trait and more often than not the character isn’t actually kind but simply a pushover.
>>287546512
Being born after 1959
>>287547381>>287547500>they're japanese: sex is rare>their birth rates are nonexistantHigher than Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore, Ukraine, Hong Kong, Macau, Moldova, Puerto Rico, Italy, Spain, Poland, among others.Basically tied with Greece.Why do some people online pretend that Japan is some uniquely horrific example of low birth rates when your own European countries are even more barren?
>>287547661because those are intentional
>>287547276>>they say "I love you" and take it seriouslyanon, that's what actually happens...
>>287547661Hating nips is a big part of american culture since the boomers in control got spooked into it both by WW2 propaganda and the economic miracle. Thinking japanese men are less manly than them is how they cope as a nation.
I was a loser but I died and reincarnated into another world with a useless skill so I'm kicked from the party but my useless skill is actually a cheat skill and my party wants me back but too bad for them!
i almost fell for that
>>287547794And it's a slow life
>>287547661Also keep in mind that Japan has a lot less migration than many Western countries, which is counted towards the birthrate meme. Westoids joke about Japan not having sex while being ethnically replaced in their own nations.
>>287546635Will you accept "inspired by experience of meeting child soldiers", because Bronson says that influenced Hokuto no Ken?
>>287547449Anon, nuclear power is used to boil water...
>>287546872Chirin's Bell? Though its author had a noncombat job in WW2>>287547748Kind of but kind of not, they throw it out nonchalantly and then taking it way too seriously afterwards
>>287548319>they throw it out nonchalantly and then taking it way too seriously afterwardsEh, maybe for some, but others are both people seriously infatuated, and after some time, one person in their teenage, lavender haze delusion, thinks it's the "next step".So it's weird you'd object to this, because surely you had to atleast witness a teenage couple who were convinced they found actual love.
>>287547040>>287547032Kensuke got cucked by Anno when he made Asushin canon. Only Kensuke schizo actually still posts Kensuke shit and he's brown so it doesn't matter
>>287548446I think that's the same thing that I was referring to. I'm aware that it's hard to put the phenomenon into words
>>287546512I'm a cooking autist and you can tell when an author doesn't know anything about cooking. Especially when its a cooking manga and half the recipes are just mixing premade ingredients.
>>287547039While maggots do slow down the rate of the wound necrosis, they are also a sign of poor hygiene which implies a larger risk of the wound becoming infected. They increase short term survival chances while getting them decreases long term chances.
>>287548658Maggots actually lower the chance of infection. Hygiene is a variable that is going to vary wildly depending on a multitude of factors and most scenarios where you end up with an open wound covered in bugs is probably not ideal to begin with but those guys are definitely going to be cleaner than your body and, if we are talking about the past, definitely cleaner than any equipment used to treat your wounds.
>>287547661dont forget that its well known that zoomer and alfas dont have sex either
>>28754651298% of the creators who write high schoolers as inocent angels too shy to even think of hand holding much less not freakout around the opposite sex. Its like 17 year olds still thinking cooties is real.
>>287546997Most child soldiers have to be beaten into the life style and then have their action/reward responses fucked with through sex and drug rewarding. If you make it out alive, you rarely just slip back into society like nothing happened.
>>287546512everything is about violence and violence is cool
I wouldn't trust anyone here to actually valauble information based on real life experience.
>>287546635honestly that could be pretty entertaining
>>287549776Isn't Generation Alpha like 14 at the oldest? Pretty sure they were born like 2012 and later, unless we are now declaring a new generation like every 5-8 years. This is the year that Alphas should start having sex, so a vast majority of them should not have had sex yet.
>>287546615Battle stories like that are written to be cool and not realistic. A lot of the time stories with "realistic" fighting, even ones based on actual combat sports, dumb things down or dial things up so it's more exciting for the readers. It's not like real fighting is that interesting since street fights are usually a lot of flailing or somebody just pulls out a weapon.>>287546782Pathfinder is literally D&D. It's based off of 3.5e and is barely outside of the scope of 3.5e that keeps it from being backwards-compatible. It is not a "D&D-like" it is D&D.
>>287546635I'm not asking for a soldier or anything but to at least be in one fist fight
>>287547032Ken Ken....
>>287546561Literally how?
>>287546512>>287546720This trope of drilling holes in people's heads needs to stop.
>>287547809But I never bothered hiding my power level and uses them at every opportunity, and now I'm getting surrounded by politicians and fightfags and the spanish inquisition, guys I just want to live in peace haha
>>287555359I don't know, I kinda like it!
>>287546512>What are some signs that a manga is written by someone with very little life experience?Isekai in general, but even more so when the general populous is too retarded to farm or some such. Males being too timid to have sex with a woman that clearly wants to have sex.Fantasy action in general, or any character that uses a sword. While there are a few instances where it works, it's mostly jingling keys for retards.
>>287546512The entirety of Vinland Saga
>>287555987explain
>>287546615>just grab a sword and go fight demons and monsters in real life so that your battle shonen could have more authentic fight scenes
>>287556017do you really think the author lived in 11th century Iceland?
>>287547661>no fault divorce in all of those countriesFEMINISM(and by proxy - jews)Whenever I smugly say that contraception and divorce should be banned, everyone looks at me like I'm retarded. :(
>>287547827Sadly the demons are already forcing immigrants into Japan now. The hate for Japan is because they are beautiful and they can create beauty, even the ugly nips are still able to write and draw fun and cute stories. When you have a soul, you can dream. It's why certain people hate Japan, they don't have souls
>>287556623They're also speedrunning our backlash.
>>287556401He could be. You don't know that.
>>287547008Ciel had her periods?
it's isekai
>>287546512romance manga written by anyone under 25yo
>>287547039>It is not like they were trying to get their wounds covered in maggotsMaggots were used intentionally. An example is when American frontiersman Hugh Glass was mauled by a bear in 1823 he intentionally collected maggots to feed on his wounds during his 6 week trek back to civilisation.
>>287547381Japanese girls on average become sexually active earlier than American girls. Japanese also cheat on each other all the time. This idea that low birth rates = no sex is dumb. Often it correlates with a lot of casual sex.
>>287557786t. Yid projecting
>>287546581This
>>287547661Hating Japan is a brown thing, 4Chuds have been overrun by thirdies many years ago.
>>287547215It amounts to "experience surviving tormentors or sociopaths with authority."
>>287547779You are roundly retarded.
>>287547556Classic
>>287555359it's just good business
>>287558227lol whatanon, no one here hates japan just because they lightly criticize it or point out a failing in its society
>>287546512ive thought about doing this to myself. it might cure my retardedness
>>287546512Any story that doesn't concern itself with the problem of evil or moral considerations to any degreeNow there are slice of life or whatever that don't need to heed these, but they ultimately still do in some way or another, and then there are mangas that the entire purpose is to not talk about these which is fineBut other than these two any story that doesn't touch these with some sort of depth reveal that a man-child wrote it
>>287561139Any examples?
>>287561285Nothing that comes to mind right nowBut there's a lot of self-referential stories out there that showcase that the entire experience the writer had with intellectual life and morality has been through other anime/manga, so they basically only ever touch on these things through the lenses of cliches and well-established tropesWhat I think shows the opposite, that a writer has a lot of life experience, is verossimilitude. It doesn't mean the story has to be realistic, but that all the elements within it are grounded in reality in some manner. A company feels like a real company instead of a cartoon drawing of one, etc. And the first aspect with which a writer can more adequately elaborate on a story is morality.
>>287561139we get ityou're a teenager and you think this is deepyou're not allowed to post here if you're under 18 by the way
>>287561888
when they portray women as being likeable and humane
Portraying bitchy women as desirable cute females. They are a pain in real life, nobody wants a high maintenance uppity bitch
>>287546512Isekai writers probably feel more home in their fantasies than in the streets
>>287546635>Are you suggesting that child soldiers from central Africa or hardened mercenaries should write manga instead?yes
>>287547008>young dumb idiots in love randomly decide to try anal despite not knowing anything about it>the result is a mutually terrible experience that leaves them both feeling awkward and unsatisfied and is promptly never mentioned againThis is like 90% of people's first experience with it. Teenagers just do dumb shit together because they saw it in a porno. There's a very good chance it was one of the few parts of TM writing that was actually based on a real experience.
>>287561139What are you on about
>>287546512That's pretty much all manga made in the past 2 decades.
>>287546512Personal experience is overrated. Good storytelling is purely a skill issue. Think Mary Shelley. She started writing Frankenstein when she was 18 and finished it when she was 23 (this is also proof that age doesn't correlated to storytelling proficiency either btw), and that novel is a masterpiece I doubt Shelley ever tried to reanimate a human being by combining and assembling body parts from different corpses, so she had zero personal experience in that specific subject matter.
>>287564372Maybe not, but she did hangout with others writers a lot. Her circle of friends were all romanticizes, and her fiance and her had tumultuous relationship involving atheism and Mary's father diswoing her gor a while. Mary certainly lived an exciting life I would say.
>>287546512I don't think enough of /a/ has read Homunculus to take your bait. I'll say it though: Fuck you.
>>287548520That's why I like Yakitate Japan. The mangaka actually traveled the world and visited a bunch of different bakeries when he was drawing his manga. I actually tried his microwave bread and it was good.
>>287564819shame about the manga ending thoughbut I have fond memories of this series
>>287564372The part of Frankenstein about reanimating a corpse is basically a montage covered in a few paragraphs and the rest of the story is about a dreamy sadboi zombie with messy dark hair who reads Goethe and whose soul is tortured by the fact that his foppish twink father doesn't love him.Aside from the obvious marriage and childbirth anxiety that the newlywed Shelley was writing into the story it's just a milquetoast thirst drabble melodrama about hot dudes who are obsessed with each other. If you published it today people would call it BL.
>>287546512what about manga with so much real life experience?urasawa's manga comes close, his dialogues feel like genuine real life dialogues
>>287546809>barbaricMy grandpa had a rotting big toe on her foot (don't ask, long story), the (((doctors))) suggested to to chop of her entire leg up to the thigh. When granny heard that she told him to cut off his own leg lol.Anyway she decided to leave her naked foot on the table during one sunny day, turned out that some fly planted her babbies there.After one evening the maggots cleaned up around the rotten bone (it fell off on its own later) AND they also ate meat that was starting to root in the next finger (we didn't even know that necrosis was starting there).The necrosis didn't progress further and granny unfortunately lived another 8 years full of dementia.
>>287567807Yamashita Tomoko and Jiro Taniguchi both feel like actual wordly adults.
>>287564372It's not about the exact events in the story, especially if it's fantasy for obvious reasons, but about the themes you want to explore. You can write a book about gods and demons, but even then there would be something more grounded in the story that would be the result of your life experiences.
>>287555987But anon, The Vinland project literally didn't work. Thorfin lost, pacifism doesn't work.
>>287546512They create manga.
>>287561139It's true, only midwits think they're above teaching others about good and evil and thinking everything is le gray
>>287568894elaborate
>>287546512BL is probably the most ignorant genre in fiction, it's women writing for other womenNothing about it is even remotely true to the gay male experience, it's a fag hag delusion
>>287572182To be fair this is like saying that "real plumbers don't fuck like that" on porn videos.>inb4 there's sfw BLThat's for lesbians in denial.
>>287547565It's too bad we can't all live for 100y in a walled garden before entering the jungle to live out the last 50 or so in a new body. The rate of neuron formation and general brain plasticity is higher in children to sort of make up for it, but now that we've hit on undermining the value of childhood experience to make more manipulable adults we all have small, misshapen feet but the rich people. No where to run.
>>287567949Your grandpa is genderfluid and has DID?
>>287572378>inb4 there's sfw BL>That's for lesbians in denial.One of the most insanely correct opinions I've ever read on this site.
>>287546512>character is in some depressive state after some sort of really bad experience, or they have some sort of trauma, or they have some sort of bad personality trait that hurts them or people around them>MC or someone else gives them a speech and suddenly they immediately get better and fix themselves instantly and this is never brought up again
>>287572984no one wants to deal with someone's baggagewhich is why people who do this in real life are hated or annoying
>>287547215This. It's why I've never really hated career politicians for not having a job outside of politics. Like, who cares if they don't know how to change a tire or whatever? That's not what I'm voting for them for.
>>287546512>I was thrown out of the party for being too amazing and good! >That's surely the reason, not that I was insufferable and incompetent!
>>287546512>no motivations for anyone but the hero>everyone kicking the hero while he's down for no reasonNot everyone in the world is out to get you, anons.
>>287574571But some people certainly are, just because they're dicks. It's a balancing act between being guarded and being paranoid.
>>287574604It's certainly true that there are psychos out there or (((honest salesmen))) trying to rip you off, but I found that, when I saw everyone as out to get me, I could never predict their behavior.I genuinely think most people genuinely try to do what they think is the right thing. At least that's what has led me to predict people's behavior a lot easier.Is that naive? Sure. But it's an attitude that let a lot more people be a lot friendlier to me over my adult life. It's also possible that working out improved my looks and pretty people are treated nicer.
Fiction in general is a pretty safe bet, so that includes all of anime. The Japanese people in general are just an incredibly infantile race.
>>287547276Shakespeare was a mangaka with very little life experience
>>287546809Fun fact leeches are used during skin graphs to pull blood into the newly attached skin and start the healing process
>>287558188>going in dryjesus what an animal
>>287546512im tired of pretending that trepanning is not based
>>287573729>It's why I've never really hated career politicians for not having a job outside of politics. Like, who cares if they don't know how to change a tire or whatever? That's not what I'm voting for them for.Anon it's about them being able to empathies with your existence and not see you as a peasant that can survive on one bowl of rice a day
>>287546635Then you will have MCs trying to do a Rambo impression and smoking weed.
>>287546512The characters only eat or think about eating ramen or convenience store food
>>287546913There are a few comics about that. And the dudes in real life in adulthood are pretty chill and very aware of the violence they committed. It's very interesting how they view their child versions of themselves and how as children they justified the killing: drugs and brainwashig
>>287547024But it's true. One thing is killing in self defense, another thing is killing a bunch of people out of hate
>>287547661>>287547827Oh my good, after more than a decade, I finally see others pointing out this.
>>287548520Thoughts on Oishinbo?
>>287577217Pretty vintage (very 80s).You can tell it comes from the same psychological world as 'Jiro Dreams of Sushi', but fun in the same way. Lots of fuddlore and magical cooking techniques. The classic rice worship was the most Japanese thing I've ever seen that didn't involve harakiri. But it was definitely made by a person that was at least a decent home cook. The bit where Yamaoka says that one kid can't be a cook because he smokes made me laugh. Particularly because he smokes constantly, as does half the cooking world. I liked the MC on the whole though, like Anthony Bourdain if he wasn't a smarmy prick. Romantic in that era's way. Kaibara is basically food Yujiro.
>>287547500indicates high purity, and therefore a country with a higher possibility of romance
>>287547546Male authors think this way because they expect girls to think how they do, incel videos on youtube taught me this
>>287547827We should make our own Ethn- I mean Edo period
>>287561139You phrased this awkwardly, but I get what you mean. Especially Isekai stories where a guy gets given everything, and treats others poorly, or fails to contribute back to society in any way.
>>287564372Frankenstein is pretty boring. What makes it a masterpiece? Being required reading in highschool?
>>287546615>muh realismPeople like you are why method acting became a fucking meme
>>287578037It was basically one of the first works of fiction of its kind; simply put, Mary Shelley and others literally wrote the book on how to do modern science fiction/fantasy.
>>287578243I'm surprised it was published in 1818 instead of the end of that century. It feels like an adventure book of the time like Dracula or Horror of the heights. You are right.
>>287547381I'm not convinced this is true. I don't know why people equate low births rates to not having sex. This ain't Afirca, people have an idea on how to have sex without bringing a little shit into this world.
>>287557985>Believes in the concept of a "pure woman"Lol, lmao even.
>>287546615What are you even saying? irl battles are people shooting in the general direction of people they can't even see that's fucking boring as shit
>>287580120GuP is a perfect example of making something completely ridiculous in premise while being highly realistic in content.
