>To end the chain of hatredHe commits suicide after "absorbing" the hatred and thus uniting the people, who are supposed to be at peace now. It sounds like the analysis I made of the war when I was 10 years old, "print more money to end poverty" ending.>Why is he hated? He doesn't kill people, he helps the poor, he reinforces apartheid, he eliminates the aristocracy, and he ends the area system. He's authoritarian, but he's better than before. >His father and other emperors?Is he really that hated? He's only been in power for two months. His brother (the one he geassed with another asspull) and sister continue working for the government, and Nunnally is now a symbol of hope or something, even though they share blood. Why would Brits hate this? Are they suddenly retarded? >EmotionallyHe could have made amends in other ways, like helping his immortal friend, being a coherent emperor (helping people that his father was killing for no reason), or if he wanted to be locked up in jail, but instead the show uses epic music, characters acting dramatically, and makes him commit suicide with a childish plan (supposedly a genius) is stupid.
>>287566409Nothing about this series is good. The fans are retards.
>>287567297the official art is great
>>287566409>It sounds like the analysis I made of the war when I was 10 years oldDis nigga never heard of Oda Nobunaga.
If you're going to make a bait thread, either say something that will get people to respond or type less. When you type that much and don't even have anything intelligent to say you just seem desperate
>>287567615it is true though
>>287567615put your money where your mouth is and dispute it then or be branded a coward
>>287566409this show is a messy trainwreck with explosions and hot girls, is not meant to be good or realistic. is a show for casuals and low iq otakus, the ending is symbolic and works if you turn off your brain. you are not the audience
>>287568271I barely manage to comprehend what point is OP's incoherent rambling trying to make, let alone dispute it
poop nigger
>>287567297Okay zoomer, what anime do you think is good?
>>287566409it was a fun watch even if the ending was retarded nonsense
>>287566409>Why doesn't the new generation hate R2 anymore?Zoomers do not care about Code Geass.
>>287568859>end the chain of hatred is retarded>the hate was artificial, he made big changes>britannians hate the changes? >all his bloodline is still in the power top>over the top plan that wasnt needed, better ways to fix his characterIt simplifies complex structural problems into a single-person problem, and then attempts to solve it with an irreversible symbolic act that depends on the overall emotional reaction.
>>287569497Meant for >>287568866
>>287569497anon he couldn't understand what you posted when its obvious what your point was he won't understand what you are saying in a tl;dr either
>>287566409People still act like Lelouch was trying to create some mythical Forever Peace when he says back in season 1 he doesn't believe in such a thing.What he is doing is creating a change in the status quo to lead to a change in the world. He becomes the Evil Emperor to oppress everyone, centers only himself as the enemy and creates a hero in Zero who kills him. He leaves behind people capable enough to steer things in a positive direction in Schneizel, Kaguya and others, and letting change happen on its own.
>>287569829He should've been smart enough to realize thats not how the world works though
>>287567427Uhmm what the diddy?This some epstein shit fr? Gooners ruin everything cuh fr.A product of its time, and one we probably won't get back any time soon sadly.
>>287569879Okay, Schneizel.
>>287570024It's kinda silly to be utopic when you don't believe in other utopic things anon
>>287569829>positive direction in SchneizelI dont think so
>>287570066Its not trying to be utopic. Positive change doesn't have to be perfect. It can still be better than what came before. >>287570070Well, he is President of Britannia now, so already off to a start by ending the Empire and monarchy.
>>287570173If he wanted just a positive change he didn't need to die though?
>>287570173>Well, he is President of Britannia now, so already off to a start by ending the Empire and monarchy.That doesn't make it a positive change when the people in power are hardly different
>>287570242I'm sorry you are too stupid to understand then.
>>287569879>He should've been smart enough to realize thats not how the world works thoughHe is, he just thought it was better than Instrumentality Lite or Nuke Everyone.
>>287568271>ha ha no look it's totally not bait, you have to engage to prove it's not bait
>>287570310How could i have forgotten about the smart of move of suicide, he wouldn't have to face the probability that his actions could have lead to a worse world or to live with all the wrong shit he had done, thinking over i agree it was a good move
>>287570450Okay, retard
>>287566409>Why doesn't the new generation hate R2 anymore?I've been here since 2008. /a/ never hated R2. It was always a forced, /v/ tier meme that had no real basis on /a/ whatsoever.
So, the first season was pretty good, I enjoyed it, but then second season begins and I seriously and unironically don't understand what the hell is going on. Nothing. What the hell, dude?I finished it but didn't get anything. The ending with his sister crying realising he sacrificed himself was beautiful, but yeah, i didn't get what was going on
>>287566409suck my dick OP.R2 > R1
>>287566409First of all, he's not dead.Second of all. the idea is that he is part royalty, anything done by him is seen as duplicitous and only to secure the throne, ie when the black knights find out about his lineage and his geass they turn on him, he could be the most benevolent ruler and people would still hate him and cause violence because of it.He also doesn't want to be a ruler, he wants to create a peaceful world for Nunally, unofortunately he has to die to make that happen.He basically destroys all world powers, takes over the world, makes himself the common enemy of everyone and then uses the idea of Zero which he created first as a sham but now Zero fulfills his role as liberator from the evil dictator (him).Zero is not a person, he is an idea, kind of like how being emperor is an idea.Anyways, it serves as to end world hostilities (for awhile at least) and as a way for him to keep his promise to CC who he will spend his immortal life with so she's no longer alone, but I guess you weren't actually paying attention.2Deep4U
>>287570534It's ok to not be able to argue anon, i forgive you
>>287570715I don't argue with the retarded. Its rude.
>>287570679the writers confirmed he was dead in a interview
I hate how CG threads can only live off of bait
>>287570907believe it or not, they lied.He's literally in the sequel series.
>>287570907And they changed their minds.>>287571074I would say it was more of a retcon than a lie.
>>287567427Cornelia is hoteuphemia a shit
>>287570907No they didn't. And even if they did (they didn't) death of the author. And even if you don't buy into death of the author they wrote and animated a sequel story that goes against the interview that didn't happen so your point would be invalid anyways
>>287571367I think they left it ambiguous on purpose to generate talk and eventually when pressed again and again just said he was dead because if they admitted he was alive they'd undoubtedly be pressured to make a sequal.Regardless, if one pays the fuck attention, he steals Charles' code, he's immortal at that point, he cannot be killed by a sword or anything as even destruction of his body would result in his eventual ressurection from C's world. He promises CC that he would be with her, that she wouldn't have to be alone (which was what her real wish was, not for the world to end or end up like how Charles and Maryanne wanted).Hell CC literally ends the series talking to Lelouch, she's not talking to herself, she says "Right, Lelouch?" while looking up, indicating that he is driving the wagon she's on.
>>287570679It's not 2deep5u when that's literally what's explained on screen. People who don't understand this soap opera are retarded
>>287571421euphy only appeals to eunuchs like suzakuCornelia is pretty fucking hot
>>287571491>she's not talking to herself, she says "Right, Lelouch?" while looking up, indicating that he is driving the wagon she's on.Shes uhhh talking to him while he's in Cs world or something
>>287567297>t. shounenfag/frierenfag/romcomfag
People hate him because he got a god power that robs people of their free will.But he is also naive thinking giving back power to the people won't introduce infinitely more suffering than geassing the whole world to not be a fucking sperglord, but that's what his father wanted and he got daddy issues so he has to reject reality.
>>287571597This is why nobody takes you anti frieren faggots seriously. You are rabid retards inserting a popular anime into your arguments every chance you got. TLDR: rent free.
>>287571491>I think they left it ambiguous on purposeThey didn't leave it ambiguous. He was stabbed on screen and died in front of us.Thats why they had to invent new concepts to justify him coming back to life. None of the fan theories were correct.
>>287571533literally just watched it"I once said Geass was the power of the king which would condemn you to a life of solitude, but I think that's not quite correct. Right, Lelouch?"So clearly he's not dead, otherwise she would now be the ONE person in the world left with a code (even suzaku will die one day due to age) so either she's gone insane (not likely) or she's talking to Lelouch. Even if he's in C's world, that means he's still alive in one form or another.You'd have to be retarded to think he's actually dead.Anyways this shitty avatar movie is over so you're going to have to bait someone else now.
I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE BRITANNIA
>>287571646CC has been "killed" who knows how many times. Charles shot himself in the chest at the end of R1. V2 pulls a knife out of his skull that had given him a lobotomy.You are a retard.
>>287571692everytime I see him, I hear the britannia ost in my head
>>287571672If hypothetically lulu is dead (he's not) he would no longer be living a life of solitude so it could fit she's talking to him from Cs world
>>287571692hated this nigga like you wouldn't believe
>>287571819gay
The problem with Rurushu is that he was a great character stuck in a show with a messy plot that constantly contradicts its own ideas. The end was a total copout because there is no way one guy dying would magically heal all pre-existing divisions among humanity. Most people are inherently dumb, degenerate, irrational, and easily exploited. Lelouch seemed to understand this intuitively for most of the show, since he's always making broad strokes observations of human nature and how gullible and manipulable people are. He had the right combination of brilliance, god complex, and baseline sense of ethics to understand that a benevolent autocracy led by someone like himself would drastically outperform any other system. And the last episode literally shows this, it talks about how Lelouch basically ended corruption in the blink of an eye, remade the entire global order, and improved society tremendously with his reforms.So the finale was such an out of character thing for someone as smart and ruthless as Lelouch to do. I'd even argue it was character assassination (literally and figuratively). But the writers wanted some kind of tragic ending, and I think they also realized they were accidentally promoting autocracy, which they probably didn't intend. To be honest the proper ending for this show was for Lelouch to just remain dictator for life and pass on his Geass to a worthy successor when it was time for him to die.
>>287571707No, he had his Geass. So he was not written as having a Code. Thats why they had to invent new concepts to say he could have one without knowing. The Death Activation theory was wrong, it activates as soon as you get it. The "It only removes Geassif its from the person who gave you Geass" theory was wrong, that detail is also irrelevant. And they show as such that those and all the theories to explain it were wrong in side materials.No, the explanation was Lelouch killed God and fucked over C's World so Code transfer got fucked up so anyone who got a Code while it wasn't got to keep Geass with their Code, which applies to, among other, the antagonist for the movie.It was a retcon.
>>287571074>He's literally in the sequel series.He's alive in the sequel series to the movie trilogy that has changes like Shirley not dying.
>>287566409It disappointed me greatly. No way just because of him dying everything is fixed. Charles was right.
>>287571870Shirley is dead in Re;surrection
>>287571738When CC tells him at the start, it's because she is speaking from experience, I think it's very clear she means that death is not the end of loneliness it is, at best, a denial. So we would not have the full series to end up back where she started to say that Lulu is no longer lonely but I guess her own loneliness (that drives all her motives) is gone somehow despite her losing her man?Come on now.>>287571854he took Charles and Maryanne's codes, he didn't "kill god" that was what C&M were trying to do, he rejected that, did you even watch the show? The only way for an immortal to die, is to have their code taken, clearly Lelouch took their codes.Furthermore if C's world got fucked up, why is CC still alive? Why hasn't she offed herself, is she the only immortal now? doomed to be alone? Are you retarded.
>>287571983>he didn't "kill god" that was what C&M were trying to do, he rejected that, did you even watch the show?I've literally watched and read all of Code Geass. They explicitly have C.C. in Res;surrection, movie and manga, tell Kallen and the others that Lelouch killed God. You should probably update yourself on things before you argue with your outdated fan theories.>Furthermore if C's world got fucked up, why is CC still alive? Because she had her Code since before it was screwed up. Again, they say this in Res.>Why hasn't she offed herself, is she the only immortal now? doomed to be alone? Res>Are you retarded.You are.
I like how if the SAZ happened, everything would go literally perfectly if not for one thing.
>>287572303Why did you have to cause the end of the world, C.C.? What the fuck?
>>287570907>the writers confirmed he was dead in a interviewNo, they didn't. ONE of the writers said he thought he was dead. That is not representative of all of them.
>>287572382Also people purposely misinterpret/misquote the old statement about the ending being ambiguous to be about Lelouch. When that statement was ambiguous on whether it was a happy ending or not, since at the time they were talking about how the world would go from there or not.
JIBUN WO
Kallen is the best
>>287572317anya is so hot
>>287567427The only redeeming factor of this pile of anime garbage.
>>287566409>Why is the ending of Geass supposedly good?it's only okay. The ending feels like nonsense because every mecha show in that era has been trying to respond to Evangelion's high concept ending. It doesn't make literal sense, it's really all meant to be allegorical. That's what the author is going for.
>>287573692>The ending feels like nonsense because every mecha show in that era has been trying to respond to Evangelion's high concept endingThat's nonsense, mecha has always had high concept endings and complex premises with heightened emotionality similar to theatrical (or wrestling, or tokusatsu) productions. Even with the infusion of real robot sentiment, Gundam itself has explorations of consciousness and trauma with all the trademarks of the era from war drama framework to psychedelic imagery. NGE is so powerful not because it innovated at all but rather because it perfectly fused the late stage otaku sensibilities of character focused shows (before the crash into moe solipsism) with the established traditions of mecha. Geass is similar to NGE in that way more so than in its ending, which retreats from anything high concept to focus on character and sentimentality. NGE ends with congratulations; Geass ends with Kallen running with toast for real.
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>>287566409you're over 10 years late
>>287566409Why is the ending of Geass supposedly good?anon it shit and unrealistic since it makes no fucking sense for every nation to becomes friends the momment Lelouch dies.
Charles was right, instrumentality was a better ending than Lelouch killing himself
