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A first-year Japanese animator’s pay stub
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>>287570952
Total annual earnings of just $4,600 USD.
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per hour? worse than slaves
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>>287570987
>>287571014
Annual.
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>>287570952
>newfag learns something everybody has known for years just because an skibbidy tiktoker told him
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>>287570952
low morals gaijin idiot
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>>287570952
this is common knowledge, and animators know this before getting the job
nobody is forcing them to do this
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>>287570952
Why do we keep allowing Twitter screenshots here
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Why don't they unionize? Are they stupid?
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This took me two seconds to google
What's wrong with you stupid gullible retards
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>>287570987
>>287571024
No way in hell.
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>>287570952
the work is its own reward
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Do they still charge animators to use their workspace? I remember some controversy around it like 15 years ago.
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>>287571024
cap
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>>287570952
I make 33K working part time. Really puts things into perspective for the Mappa wagie.
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>>287572327
8 dollars an hour was what i was earning like 15 years ago.
minimum wage is almost $15 here.
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>>287572281
unionization is collectivization, and collectivization is evil, sweaty.
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>>287571040
>an skibbidy
https://youtu.be/A_IDGrKZ0Rs
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>>287572327
AI is only as smart as the person who formulated the query.
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The cost of living in Japan is very low. Animation is not a full time job.
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>>287574674
And Azns are huge collectivists. Anyway it's only even when it's accompanied by authoritarianism, but societal collectivisation is retarded because it squashes individualism, personal responsibility and free thinking.
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>>287570952
that's just one production, though.
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>>287570952
First-year animators are literally 10x slower than seasoned professionals.
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I remember that old image with an animator wagie saying:"I like drawing cute girls :)" with 2IQ stare.
They deserve that wage since they're fine with working on slop.
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>>287570952
A month? That's perfectly fine.
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This happens in every entertainment medium. They run on passion. Every single person who starting working in anime, video games, movies and television want to create something their own and will do anything to do it even if it means working 80+ hours a week for peanuts.
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>>287574924
This. Its literally an entirely different standard of living.

>>287577214
The amount of cope trash like you put forward to justify your painful occupations never ever stops looking more filthy.
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>>287574650
I think if you check you'll find that that's a de factor arrangement in certain service industries and not the law in your state.
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>>287577451
well shit. after china takes over im moving to chinan
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>>287574924
There's a site that accounts for this in conversions, but I forget what it was.
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>>287574924
That is even lower than my 3rd world shithole
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>>287577398
True, that's why it all needs to belong to the truly dedicated: the owners of capital.
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>>287574924
Not that low, anon. This is less than the most basic autism bux tier in my post-commie country, and those autism bux are given to you with the expectation that you’re still mostly fit to work and most of your income will come from your actual job.
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>>287572327
manga artists fall under some sort of intern no min wage thing. no health insurance no min wage no holidays etc.
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>>287574872
>both are retarded
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>>287577398
Anime hasnt been a passionate medium in years, otherwise originals wouldn't have died out
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>>287578265
fourth retard here, entering the conversation
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>>287572281
They view unions as communism apparently
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>>287578407
what'd you think of train to the end of the world

>>287578418
unions gave Australia their own Edo period
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>>287578407
And they didn't.
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>>287570952
And then people ask why animation quality has gotten worse over the years. People are paid shit and you expect Akiras.
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>>287570952
For a month, right?
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>>287572281
worked well for westoids right? oh wait, it just killed animation over there for decades until outsourcing to korean slaves became viable
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>>287570952
>>287571024
>animator´s fridge
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>>287578407
manga and LNs have passionate fans too, anon
>>287572281
Toei is union and there might be others
but there are also a lot of small studios which aren't making that much either (while production committees make bank) which kind of throws in a barrier to organizing, the indirect structure makes it so it's not your *employer* screwing you. Plus a lot of people who really want to join the field if strikebreakers are needed.
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>>287581032
character designs ruined after 1 episode
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>>287574674
Say that to the japanese society.
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>>287578407
This guy doesn't watch anime and will say "it doesn't count!" when you show originals to him.
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>>287572281
Only Toei formed a union. The advantage of a union is that it can guarantee animators' salaries, but the disadvantage is that it cannot force overtime, which makes it difficult for Toei to improve the quality of its animations.
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>>287573917
The companies don't pay the subscription costs for the digital workspace programs animators use or they actually charge them for having an office?
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>>287578407
watch more anime
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>>287570987
That's the monthly pay but OP is a fag, the minimum wage for anyone in japan is 210 thousand yens monthly, if is bellow that well you call the union and they will destroy the company image so 700 thousand yens monthly is good pay in japan, if it was in reality 700 thousand yens that would mean he is a freeter (part time worker) that only works half day each week because even freeters make more money around 180 thousand monthly working 2 days each week.
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