[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/a/ - Anime & Manga

Name
Spoiler?[]
Options
Comment
Verification
4chan Pass users can bypass this verification. [Learn More] [Login]
File[]
  • Please read the Rules and FAQ before posting.

08/21/20New boards added: /vrpg/, /vmg/, /vst/ and /vm/
05/04/17New trial board added: /bant/ - International/Random
10/04/16New board for 4chan Pass users: /vip/ - Very Important Posts
[Hide] [Show All]


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: 1764870817341482.png (386 KB, 352x528)
386 KB PNG
Writing a full autistic review praising Sorachi's new serialization after Gintama, join me in this thread as I ignore all opinions to the contrary.
>>
File: 1.png (769 KB, 1105x747)
769 KB PNG
I'm so glad that Sorachi's still got it
The absurd is perfectly placed amongst the hyper down-to-earth. And there's a serious side to the story too, so it's good to see he hasn't abandoned his ambitions for dramatic storytelling in favor of just doing totally absurd gags to pay back the favor to Nakano for animating some more of his content.
>>
>>287559869
>>
File: 2.png (901 KB, 987x935)
901 KB PNG
And the manga isn't just "YELLLL!!!!" "NANI YOU WHAAAAT?! EHHHH?!" right from page 1, it's rather restrained from the start, and that filled me with hope!
He also still has his knack for visuals, they're really well thought out, man I love Sorachi
Just full of interesting visuals
Check picrel

>>287590686
Thanks, but I'm going to keep this thread up.
>>
File: >schizo woke up.png (325 KB, 779x557)
325 KB PNG
I really thought that the Maou (Demon King) would be the guy with glasses and that the manga would be about the Maou being in hiding in the school for some reason lol. Didn't predict this scenario/setup at all. I'm really happy!

From a technical/fundamentals level, Sorachi makes sure to have at least one consciously-inserted interesting thing (e.g. gag, but not always, it could be a very cool panel) per page, especially in between expositions so tiktok-brains don't put down the magazine. And gag pages have ~5-6 jokes per page sometimes, which so many gag creators (and action creators too!!!) recently unfortunately failed to do (for years!). Sometimes quantity of enjoyment (though there is quality here too ofc) is really just that important.

Not to mention that the level of craft needed to be able to have so many gags but still progress the legit side of the story is very high. For example roboco's one of the few gag manga lately that still has lots of gags per page, but they are usually very very random, not strung together in a logical/fluid sequence and make you feel like the entire world paused unnaturally to start a comedy show

pic unrelated, but I love how Sorachi still portrays the little things like this and isn't just speeding through things, he knows when to slow down and when to speed up.
>>
File: 3.png (21 KB, 188x189)
21 KB PNG
Honestly, I think Jump is fucking saved
It was really missing a manga like this with dense chapters (lots of interesting/enjoyable things per chapter as opposed to action stuff with like 3 panels per page on average). Nue also was a decent dense manga but the written/visual storytelling level makes it an awkward read, (cluttered visuals on the page-level). otherwise it (Nue) has what it takes to get big

Also, Dolgo a cute
>>
ok ok i'll read your mango, anon
>>
Gintama
Anime or manga?
>>
File: 1753471273898193.jpg (2.32 MB, 3549x4096)
2.32 MB JPG
>>287591798
Short answer: manga
Everyone else will say anime though, that's what I've noticed on /a/

Long answer:
Read the first few newly translated chapters on mangadex
Read Viz (not great but the anime was a very poor adaptation for a year or so) until its translations run out around volume 23 or 26ish
And if you see a goodguygintoki translation can try those I assume they're decent since he's retranslating a bunch of chapters from very poor fan translation days
Switch to the anime somewhere between volume 10-26ish if you want to try the anime
Watch until the end of Gintama° Apr 2015 - Mar 2016
Resume from the manga with hi wa mata noboru (still not perfect, and they personally stated they burned out around, iirc chapter 500 or 600, I won't give specific examples here but just look at how dogpark felt the need to pick up the jojo series and give his own translation for Steel Ball Run onwards)
And read the manga until the end basically and then watch the movie because the semi-final and final has some missing content in the middle

Keep in mind that there's no shortage of misconceptions and hasty conclusions made about the series by various people so try to come to your own conclusions first and foremost, and also try to avoid spoilers! Enjoy!
>>
>>287590651
I really liked this first chapter, but I have zero hope that this manga will survive in the current Jump bloody landscape, where every new manga has just 3 options:

- You live on by being an instahit on the level of Kagurabachi, Ichi and now Hertz (It's not happening with this manga, come on)
- You get lucky and barely survive a bit longer by taking the spot of any stablished manga with a similar theme that's about to end (the best shot for Class 2-B, if Witch Watch is really ending)
- You go straight to the chopping block in less than 30 chapters.


Let's be honest, Gintama surviving that long with that crude humor was already a miracle back then, it won't get it so far this time
>>
>>287590651
opinions on dandelion?
>>287591929
i prefer the manga because 1. the ss arc is poorly adapted 2. the filler is often mediocre. but i like the anime because 1. the VAs are amazing 2. the good filler is great, i still remember that eva reference or russian eli
>>
>>287591425
>>
>>287591798
I prefer the manga, some say the text puts them off but it’s better than how the heavy dialogue portrayed in the anime which is largely a slideshow. A lot of gags are also centered specifically around the medium of manga and the anime changes the wording but the jokes don’t hit the same
>>
>>287592009
I can't reply for a bit but I'll just answer the dandelion thing for now, I thought the manga was a very fine craft, the pacing is great, the throughline is great, the story may be inspired by bleach a bit? not sure. maybe not at all. but it shows all the signs of sorachi's greatness already, and most importantly has so many signs of humanity and human understanding, he knows how to make humans talk and empathize and act human. as his debut work it's honestly insane, but it's probably still one of the best oneshots i've ever read. the anime is very good for episode 1, the rest i tried 2-3 eps but it wasn't the same, i'm sure you can come up with a bunch of reasons why and i'd agree with you.
>>
File: 4.png (73 KB, 237x284)
73 KB PNG
As for why there aren't more dense manga lately, first modern mangaka are weaker, but also prioritizing ever-evolving choreography and action, learning from film, fujimotoism, etc are all reasons, as well as relying too much on big panels and "kino" composition even in rom-com manga, so it's so refreshing to have sorachi back where even the small panels are kino
>>
>>287592694
(Not that anon)
Haha the one time I say everyone on /a/ keeps spamming that the anime is the go-to and they always shit on me for saying to read the manga, is the time when 2/2 other anons both recommend the manga. Actually since a bunch of manga readers are probably gathering to read the new manga by Sorachi, maybe that's why?
But anyway, totally agree with you, that's a really great point (of multiple ones out there I'm sure). It takes effort to make timed (like in a movie where people don't talk at Saiki K anime speeds) dialogue interesting via visuals and direction. Sorachi is good at that but there's also times where he drops a bunch of text, and obviously it's easier to read it and not ruin the pace.

For me in general though I just am not a huge fan of having to roll the dice hoping for a good anime staff for whatever episode I'm on. But it is also just true that the first several cours of the anime especially were quite unfortunate. They added a bunch of of content/jokes to pad out episodes that in my opinion watered down the Sorachi-tier content. As an example I guess you could compare Dandelion episode 1 to 2-7, or a Gintama chapter versus a 3-Z ginpachi sensei anime episode
>>
File: 5.png (536 KB, 873x955)
536 KB PNG
I haven't enjoyed a manga like this in so long man. I'm so stuck in this kind of editorial mindset that I keep finding flaws or places manga could be improved, but Sorachi left literally zero holes for me to poke at. No one in current Jump holds a candle to him in terms of craft right now man this is insane
Picrel his human poses are still so, fucking, COOL!!
>>
File: 1768267376613893.jpg (166 KB, 744x744)
166 KB JPG
>>
>>287592694
>>287594622
I'll read the manga and maybe one day watch the anime.
>>
File: 6.png (27 KB, 132x152)
27 KB PNG
I came in ready with a LOT of things to look for in terms of how he could have declined significantly but it just wasn't there
Also, he is genius for recontextualizing the toilet on the cover and playing with our expectations like a good mystery/detective writer (like how Higurashi chapter 2 made me think and doubt and rethink my understanding around Mion <- don't click if you haven't read the VN to chapter 2) would in terms of just who is the glasses guy in this chapter lol
>>
File: 7.png (17 KB, 524x147)
17 KB PNG
Also the backstory is inspired by Sorachi's personal experiences again lmao
Bro will never let it go
>>
File: 8.png (190 KB, 416x414)
190 KB PNG
Anyway, praise aside, I have no idea how he's going to continue the concept of the story... or rather that's what I thought until the last half or quarter of the chapter I guess. But still, I have no idea how he'll keep the MC's "I fight with toilet paraphernalia" thing/his backstory/the fundamentals of his character, present, without it getting old, or without Sorachi just dropping that aspect entirely. Maybe it was only here for chapter 1. Maybe it'll be like a one punch man thing where it happens once in a while but only when the buildup has been done and the payoff is great
>>
File: 9.png (79 KB, 382x466)
79 KB PNG
Anyway, this is a much more "well-defined" in a sense, somewhat "inflexible" type of main character (as was clear from the first preview image we saw of him) so I wonder how Sorachi will handle him. With Gin he was allowed to channel all sorts of human things through him (although there were restrictions too ofc)
>>
>>287590651
Oh boy more Gorilla greatness incoming, maybe the WSJ still has a chance to recover.
>>
>>287591798
Anime up to enchousen then switch to the manga.
>>
File: 10.png (28 KB, 226x199)
28 KB PNG
And overall man the first chapter is really set up well.
we even have a final boss already, (like kimetsu's "who killed my family" in chapter 1, or jujutsu's "sukuna is inside me" in chapter 1, etc.) so that also anchors the readers
His design is also really interesting!!!
>>
File: 11.png (1.88 MB, 1881x1371)
1.88 MB PNG
And his action (including choreography, camerawork, pacing, paneling, depiction within each panel, the visual structure of the entire page, etc) is still top notch!!!! It's not Kagurabachi in terms of the actual dynamism within each panel of course but I don't mind, Sorachi's level of portrayal is just top top top tier man.
I'm not expecting this every week or even once a month or anything, he's older now and already got his masterpiece out, but he is the kind of overworker and hard worker who plans out arcs (and storyboards, I assume) stuff way in advance so I am expecting some more cool action and compositions in the future EVENTUALLY.
>>
File: 12.png (78 KB, 991x436)
78 KB PNG
Also, Shinohara was the only one to mention Sorachi coming back?
Not sure if this english translation is accurate btw. I'm not gonna read the English TL lol. I always get mad when they do stuff like translating Ichi the Madan to Ichi the Witch which ruins all the namedrops. I wonder how they handled the スペル魔 (sperm) joke though
>>
File: 13.png (174 KB, 399x661)
174 KB PNG
This panel was so cool.........................................
10/10!!!!!!! I LOVE IT!!! MWAH SORACHI!
I'm buying the physical mag sometime when I find a way to.
Already bought it on zebrack and bookwalker (to download the pages) lol. Although maybe manga-zip has the same level of raw quality as the bookwalker-using-the-bw-manga-downloader method
>>
>>287590651
Downvote
>>
>>287598820
Swimmers and tadpoles
>>
File: 14.png (763 KB, 913x1279)
763 KB PNG
Sorachi did the "klutz girl" better than Shinobigoto already imo.
Also the serious guy and magic girl at school meet thugs in chapter 1 thing better than Witch Watch already imo
And of course gags better than all other gag manga in the mag (even Hertz, which obviously is a strong manga)
Not trying to pick fights but I think finding comparisons within the same magazine is inevitable

Also her angry running here is SO CUTE lol.
>>
File: file.png (158 KB, 768x1024)
158 KB PNG
>>
File: file.png (213 KB, 772x1200)
213 KB PNG
>>
>>287591979
Give it some fujobait like Gin x Hijikata and it'll top the TOC with no issues
>>
>>287592009
>ss arc is poorly adapted
Make sure to watch the BD release, it improves a lot.
>>
File: ginshin.png (182 KB, 449x465)
182 KB PNG
>>287597717
The anime is quite bad for a few cours right from the start though. For reasons already mentioned above.
>>
File: 1762561999298924.png (379 KB, 849x1200)
379 KB PNG
>>
>>287591798
Both. Do both. You do yourself a disservice by not experiencing both.
>>
File: file.png (1.22 MB, 794x1200)
1.22 MB PNG
>>
File: file.jpg (1.06 MB, 1846x2000)
1.06 MB JPG
>"2-B Gakuen Hero Destroyers" with Kūmon Hirai & Varalis III

>The height difference between these two!
>I mean, after Gintama's serialization ended, I stopped buying paper Jump, so I had no idea, but I was totally shocked to learn that Lawson doesn't have a magazine section!
>Things have come to that now, huh...
>http://dokujan.blog36.fc2.com/blog-entry-20746.html
>>
>>287590651
It sure feels like it was done by an experienced author who knows how both long running manga and anime operate. Some scenes come with perfect timing and visuals for the adaptation.

However, we'll see if modern wsj audience cares about any of this shit. Sometimes I think they don't care about anything.
>>
>>287591798
I watched the anime all the way through and the VAs do add a lot to the comedy, but the Bamco seasons have cheap animation and Silver Soul especially felt rushed
>>
File: 1746331807438419.png (3.47 MB, 1394x2048)
3.47 MB PNG
>>
i hope there'll be more to discuss next chapter, as much as it started off promising, i'm already forgetting most of what happened besides the gags that keep being highlighted.
>>
File: 1752124671557094.png (3.57 MB, 1496x2048)
3.57 MB PNG
>>
>>287599647
>ゴブ林
I imagine the guy is named Hayashi just for that pun.
>>
File: file.png (241 KB, 638x767)
241 KB PNG
>>
File: file.png (496 KB, 591x873)
496 KB PNG
>>
File: 0.jpg (531 KB, 1403x2048)
531 KB JPG
>>
File: 2.jpg (1.51 MB, 1403x2048)
1.51 MB JPG
>>
>>287591798
manga, even though I started with the anime, I like the flow of jokes, art, and unadapted parts the manga brings to the table. Scans online get pretty rough at some point before becoming solid again so if you do choose to read it instead of watch it, brace for some dark bubbly panels from time to time.
>>
>>287591798
Neither. If you didn't already start one on your own and stuck with it you're never going to bother experiencing it. Gintama is impossible to recommend because it either clicks with you a lot or not at all.
>>
File: 7.jpg (944 KB, 1403x2048)
944 KB JPG
>>
Got 20 pages in before I remembered Gintama wasn't funny either
>>
File: file.png (1.29 MB, 848x1200)
1.29 MB PNG
>>
File: 1536746500103.jpg (560 KB, 1080x1542)
560 KB JPG
>>287603284
Weak. Final chapter of Gintama in JUMP had a dick on cover.
>>
File: 8.png (3.91 MB, 1403x2048)
3.91 MB PNG
>>
>>287591798
Anime unless you don't click with it by episode 40
>>
>>287600619
It has its ups and downs the first 50 episodes
>>
File: 497.png (2.17 MB, 1403x2048)
2.17 MB PNG
I just watched the video on Jump channel kek.
I still maintain that Sorachi maintained his weekly schedule like a fucking champ (in the sense that he always made it before the last last last last call) but looks like he really is damedame when he has no deadline as the app publishing proved haha.
I hope he got a lot of sunshine and saw a lot of fun sights. He said he lost weight. I hope he had a kid or two since his talent needs to be spermified throughout the world. :D
>>
File: 4.jpg (1.1 MB, 1403x2048)
1.1 MB JPG
>>
File: HGZTOjmbYAE5inz @memebfu.jpg (218 KB, 2048x1490)
218 KB JPG
>>287594008
I never read Gintama before but I was big into Undead Unluck when that was running and I missed having weekly chapters that felt like they had actual meat to them and every page having gags so much. I really liked Class 2-B Destroyers, I hope it sticks around for a while and now I feel like checking out Gintama.
It helps that the main girl is cute too.
>>
>no girls
>>
File: file.jpg (2.02 MB, 2806x2048)
2.02 MB JPG
>>
File: file.png (1.22 MB, 2048x1490)
1.22 MB PNG
>>
File: 1761177211007833.png (3.05 MB, 1446x2048)
3.05 MB PNG
>>
File: 20260420_003557.jpg (517 KB, 959x1253)
517 KB JPG
>>287598820
Shinohara is Gorilla's number 1 supporter.
>>
File: file.png (1.13 MB, 1478x957)
1.13 MB PNG
>>
File: yamo510.png (940 KB, 1302x1152)
940 KB PNG
>>287591979
This manga has the highest level of craft in Shonen Jump right now. It's living easily.
To be fair to you, I saw a lot of popular JP tweets saying they were worried that Gintama fans would love it but everyone else reading in 2026 wouldn't "get it".
But the biggest thing needed to get sales is "readability", including the text, dialogue, etc., but visual composition is the biggest thing (paneling, panel flow, pacing) and Sorachi is actually top tier at this, this is one of the easiest to read manga in the mag and combined with the aesthetics of each page as a "painting", on average it's the most pleasant reading experience.
Look at the radio manga Hertz, it's EXTREMELY readable which let it become popular very quick, it is quite an enjoyable manga and has a high pace of gags (though Sorachi's is at least on par if not higher), so simply put I would easily bet 50% of my savings that Destroyers tops the rankings, maybe top 6 sales in Jump by early 2027.
>You live on by being an instahit
>You get lucky and barely survive
>You go straight to the chopping block in less than 30 chapters
The definition/separation of your dichotomy isn't really logical so it's not really helpful and I won't discuss using your framework in detail.
For example the easiest cherry for me to pick is that the last line isn't really a meaningful observation. The average axe was like <20 chapters in the past.
Anyway the bottom line is it will be popular from the start so by your dichotomy case 1 will happen.
>>
File: file.png (52 KB, 314x230)
52 KB PNG
>>287607083
My autism compels me to criticise Undead Unluck because I feel like it missed the most important part which is having time dedicated to developing human-like characters, which honestly even Himaten (a super standard shonen romcom) might do better (well, I'm already criticizing it, sorry........)
But yeah, UU has high density in every chapter and lots of gags. (so does Nue actually, thoughts on that?)
So I'm really happy you found similar aspects in Destroyers.
>>
File: file.png (3.1 MB, 1400x2137)
3.1 MB PNG
>>287595658
Enjoy! Remember that if the translations start to feel REALLY off in volumes 20-40 ish, look for goodguygintoki on mangadex to see if he's translated those, or you can also try checking out which anime episodes those are from. Just be careful because starting in anime opening... 14 maybe? 15? I forget, there are some spoilers.
>>
>>287609648
>come back in a month or so
lol
>>
File: 1724449640790165.png (84 KB, 378x537)
84 KB PNG
I was on standby the whole time.
I like the chapter and I'm looking forward to reading 700 more.
>>
File: file.png (3.98 MB, 1920x1080)
3.98 MB PNG
>>287597691
Nice to hear you're excited! I'm also thinking the newbies will be pulled along by Sorachi as they realize that there are no limitations to manga storytelling, when they see how strong his all-around fundamentals are compared to the modern average manga.
t. always argued with you about Utsuro in Gintama
>>287605289
I respect your opinion, but by modern anime fan standards the start of the Gintama anime is unforgiveable
Rearranging stories, the order of character introductions, etc., just to get Kagura in before Madao, then giving her a bunch of low quality (or at least not Sorachi tier) filler content in the Madao intro episode etc, that's just the start of it
I really dislike how they added a bunch of anime original content within manga canon storylines that watered down the story.
People would be up in the streets if they did that to Jujutsu Kaisen or Kimetsu no Yaiba. (All shonen start somewhat episodically per editorial decree, so yes, it would have been possible to say, introduce zenitsu in episode 2 to get fans hyped)
>>
File: GreenivyShower.png (3.33 MB, 2048x974)
3.33 MB PNG
>>287599488
Swimmers as a euphemism for sperm? Hm... I guess that's decent actually
>>287609648
It really shocked me to learn that Shinohara was actually older. He always felt like Sorachi's kouhai (and in terms of manga, probably is)
>>
File: file.png (42 KB, 539x495)
42 KB PNG
>>287602045
kek, that's extremely likely
Sorachi really worked on every little detail to make the chapter every little bit more fun and engaging.
Really appreciate his dedication to the craft.
>>
File: 20260330_154642.jpg (523 KB, 1535x2048)
523 KB JPG
Ginhiji son became a delinquent.
I can't say that's unexpected
>>
File: tokk_a11.png (2.01 MB, 1414x1000)
2.01 MB PNG
>>
File: file.png (935 KB, 880x1320)
935 KB PNG
>>287600596
I don't remember that being the case and here's what leddit says
>Not.. significantly? I haven't watched the Blu Rays all the way through yet, only some parts like the Utsuro-Umibouzu battle. Some things like backgrounds and stuff look a bit more detailed, but the actual sakuga/battle choreography seems pretty much the same.
>Sorry to say, it's not really up to snuff. Some of the special effects have been updated, and that's about it
>>
File: 1768706170315271.png (2.97 MB, 1536x2048)
2.97 MB PNG
>>287601517
Completely agree!
Though the "thinking ahead for the anime" thing isn't obvious to me. Can you give me one example?
>However, we'll see if modern wsj audience cares about any of this shit. Sometimes I think they don't care about anything.
The number 1 thing for sales is readability (will I want to buy a tankoubon and re-read the chapters I already read in Jump, for example is one customer case).
Destroyers' readability is probably the highest in all of Jump right now desu, well actually compared to very low-ambition (not a bad thing per se, my definition of ambition here is a bit wonky) manga like Himaten (VERY low word count) and Hertz I guess it's less readable but
If you look at Nue, it always has a ton of discussion on twitter (if that counts for anything and isn't bots) but the pages are so messy and it explains the low sales.
Can you also give an example of the modern wsj audience "not caring" about [the kind of high quality production found in Destroyers] (I assume that's what you meant)?
Because honestly I can hardly remember a single series in the past... 3-4 years where that kind of thing was actually present.

Also, Sakamoto - low word count, simple, just battles, easy to read
Blue Box - good paneling, big panels, pretty simple, easy to read
Kagurabachi is visually great ofc
Ichi the Witch is pretty dumb-tier simple and the panels are really big not much meat to it
All sell pretty well

Basically there's a bottom line of ease of reading you need to surpass and you should be above 50k easily
>>
>>287601698
There's a lot to discuss regarding the meta in terms of the techniques he used perfectly and with a flourish in creating such a competent manga chapter (maybe the best first chapter I've read since Attack on Titan's), but yeah a Japanese guy tweeted something that clicked with me,
"Wow, it took an entire day for me to realize, but that entire first chapter was just an explanation of the world/setting/characters strung along with gags" or something (it was high praise). Basically it shows that Sorachi can share information with the reader like a godly machine, now with very low friction/pain during reading, we already know a ton about the world, the information density is high compared to other first chapters.
I'm agreeing with you basically, not much "of note" happened but that's how all first chapters are designed in Jump basically anyway, it just goes to show that Sorachi did insanely well within the structure.
>>
File: file.png (466 KB, 716x768)
466 KB PNG
>>287603862
Good bait.
Also it's not always going for belly aching gut laughs, a lot of it is charming and endearing and the characters are lovely humans.
>>
File: 1759036746092164.png (719 KB, 800x1100)
719 KB PNG
>>
>>287613664
More Gorilla greatness is always welcomed, I hope it lasts as much as Gintama did.
>>
File: file.png (1.57 MB, 1000x708)
1.57 MB PNG
>>287605287
The first 40 episodes are the worst adapted though.
I tried the manga like 6 times starting from chapter 1 each time and getting 20 chapters further on each try over a period of 2-3 years (so, 1-20, 1-40, 1-60) etc and finally on the last time it clicked,
But I had no idea that I was reading literal headcanon translation that was worse than even 2024 AI translation, it literally just made everything up for half the chapters so.
With proper modern translations once should be able to get hooked in a volume or 2
>>
File: file.png (1.98 MB, 2000x1600)
1.98 MB PNG
>>287604859
That's actually crazy that they used the last chapter of Gintama to shill 2 gag manga that went straight to the axe.
Also, the cover you posted doesn't have shoulder pads.
>>
File: file.png (2.34 MB, 2048x1166)
2.34 MB PNG
>I made Valaris III in Tomo Colle already because it was so cute
>Planning to make Kyumon too
>>
File: file.jpg (689 KB, 2048x1189)
689 KB JPG
On Ohasuta (Japanese TV)
>>
File: file.jpg (683 KB, 2048x1215)
683 KB JPG
>>
File: file.png (3.62 MB, 2048x1202)
3.62 MB PNG
>>
File: file.jpg (749 KB, 2048x1182)
749 KB JPG
>>
>>287590651
I am curious to see if modern jump will like this shit.
>>
File: 1775451382492360.png (3.15 MB, 1920x1080)
3.15 MB PNG
Franky voice actor in the top left btw, he's the main host of OhaSUTA. I wonder if I'll be able to find a recording somewhere...
>>
File: file.png (321 KB, 572x426)
321 KB PNG
Damn apparently they were reading it out loud on TV. Could be wrong though and maybe it's just the key parts
https://x.com/ohast_jp/status/2045978342822957493
>>
>>287621684
Modern jump is what is shit so probably no, too good for modern braindead zoomers
>>
File: file.png (952 KB, 1264x1266)
952 KB PNG
>>
Elusive Samurai veteran squib incoming
>>
File: file.png (891 KB, 1258x1254)
891 KB PNG
>>
Okay I found a 19 minute program called 銀魂・空知先生待望の新連載!/ドズルが●●のポーズに挑戦?!ONE PIECE here: https://tver.jp/episodes/epv6iba041
My video downloading extensions don't work on it (encrypted stream or something) so I'll screen record it.
>>
>>287611928
I bounced off of Nue pretty hard honestly, the jokes didn't make me laugh and the characters didn't endear me. I think I just like stupid humor, the poop jokes in 2BHD made me giggle pretty hard just like all the slapstick and dick jokes in UU. 2BHD also has an extremely cute short haired girl, I hope it survives because I really like her already.
>>
File: file.png (503 KB, 848x1199)
503 KB PNG
>>
File: file.png (90 KB, 194x259)
90 KB PNG
>>
>>287591798
anime because it's what got me into it, and if I'm not mistaken, it's also what saved the manga back then
>>
File: file.png (592 KB, 686x386)
592 KB PNG
>>
File: Koie_Rito.png (729 KB, 1200x1600)
729 KB PNG
>>
File: 1773849461945592.png (317 KB, 675x350)
317 KB PNG
>>
File: 1761672580765797.png (767 KB, 1028x1500)
767 KB PNG
>>
File: file.jpg (1.25 MB, 2892x4096)
1.25 MB JPG
>>
File: file.png (3.29 MB, 1599x2048)
3.29 MB PNG
>>
>>287591979
to be also fair the current magazine is in such dire straits that a 20k seller like shinobi is hailed as a pillar. if sorachi manages to sell more than that it's likely safe.

>>287595764
i did like the "i have a dark beast in me" then "gotta go to the bathroom" but then the dark beast was actually there

>>287619354
david-kun was actually great, it was axed in favor of the japan kid because that one was nothing but a tourist guide
>>
>>287616733
>readability
take early op and dragon ball. both are masterclass of simplicity, every chapter flows into the next effortlessly. the only other manga that gave me a similar feeling, although a bit coarse, was kagurabachi.
ichi is pretty neat too, but i wish it had more substance.
i think 2B can easily survive in jump, unless they're retarded and either overprint it or paid sorachi a lot to come back.
>>
>>287625057
Was that an example of
>Can you also give an example of the modern wsj audience "not caring" about [the kind of high quality production found in Destroyers] (I assume that's what you meant)?
I meant to ask for an example of a high quality (readability, etc) manga that got axed or did poorly to prove the hypothetical point that fundies don't work on the modern audience
But I think one piece could easily live in modern jump, as for dragon ball it's been a while and that might not just because of the literal age gap between what seems to me to be its target audience from chapter 1, to Jump's current 25+ average age readership, but it's not quite due to modern readers not caring about quality or anything.
>>
>>287625057
Damn, I fucked up my reply
*It's been a while so I don't remember its start too clearly
*It is possible that dragon ball wouldn't do too well from the start
*But that would probably be just because of the literal age gap ...
*Between its past target audience and jumps current readership
>>
File: file.png (413 KB, 740x1280)
413 KB PNG
>>
>>287625106
>>287625118
i think every manga that flopped was clearly missing fundamentals. maybe i'll hazard a guess that Fabricant 100 was the closest thing to being actually good among axed manga in recent memory. despite having many axebaits traits it managed to pull off an extremely competent and dare i say kino ending.
but no, i wasn't really giving examples, i just liked the point about readability. i think old one piece would work just as well today. early db is a bit rougher around the edges but would still pick up with the first tenkaichi.
tho thinking about "what if db was published today" is extremely hard because so much of the modern shonen landscape was modeled by it. it's like asking what a skyscraper would look like without its fundations.

really my worry is with jump. 2025 saw every single new series flop hard, to basically u19 levels. only hertz survived and was a decent hit. we've never had this level of flopping and 2/3rds of the magazine are zombies. you could axe everything but op/kgb/ichi/hertz and lose nothing (sd/bb/ww are ending soon so i'm not counting them). there was a pokemon collab last year and it was a splash in the water because NOBODY knew who anyone was. maybe they recognized the sword meme guy and sakamoto, but everyone else was a literal who to even anime fans at large.
i think it's because the editors are not as good. an editor's job is to bring out the best in the author and know which ideas will actually take root and which to drop. the current state of jump tells me that they are not good at doing that anymore, it feels like any success is because of external causes.
>>
The first chapter was pretty bad
>>
>>287590685
>>287590712
I think this is a gag series.
>>
File: file.jpg (1.05 MB, 2160x4680)
1.05 MB JPG
>>
File: file.jpg (458 KB, 1420x1476)
458 KB JPG
>>
File: akane.webm (2.46 MB, 1920x1080)
2.46 MB WEBM
>>287625687
KAGURA EATING SEA SALT ICE CREAM!
>>
File: file.jpg (982 KB, 1919x1177)
982 KB JPG
>>
File: 20260416_180731.jpg (304 KB, 1754x1240)
304 KB JPG
I would've liked a dandelion serialization more...
>>
File: ATTENTION.png (599 KB, 1474x1694)
599 KB PNG
Been doing my Nth reread of Gintama (very casually this time; I've already done rereads where I maximized my enjoyment, or thinking etc) and I found some interesting stuff I'd like to share.
I wish I had some kind of platform, not to attention whore but rather to be able to have a permanent space where people can visit to see the cool things Sorachi did, but I have the second best thing - this thread.

1. I totally forgot we met the Tendoushuu so early on, and with Kondou and Matsudaira in chapter 45. And more importantly, they say to Kondou and Matsudaira, "you can't be hasty and overdo your duties, it's fine to feel a sense of justice but if you rush and bite into everything around you, you might find that the stray dog's tail you bit into was actually a wolf's tail" - and this actually comes back later! In the Sarabada Shinsengumi Arc, when Matsudaira says, (not a huge spoiler) you're no longer stray dogs, you're proud wolves. Now, it's ridiculous to say "SORACHI PLANNED THAT LATER ARC FROM CHAPTER 45!!" but my point is that he either had such a rough idea of theme/motif for them throughout the series and continued to play it out, which is awesome and I highly praise it, or he reread earlier parts of the series and thought of how to build them up more and more later on, which is also great, and he did it very awesomely!
2. The story with the hunter and the bear. Spoilers for those chapters - He raised the bear and then had to kill it
3. The fighting tournament. Spoilers for those chapters - with the criminal-turned-orphanage-master, raising kids.
(cont'd)
>>
File: Spoiler Image (265 KB, 725x473)
265 KB
265 KB PNG
(cont'd from the ATTENTION! Sadaharu pic)
Even just now, I read the (not a big spoiler) Memory Loss arc and it seems to me one interpretation of how Gin got his memory back is, first he lost it after strong physical trauma, and repeatedly lost it after such trauma, but then he was faced with (big series spoiler) the ultimate trauma coming back to haunt him, a vision he has seen before in the past replayed in the present, but because he was able to be rescued from that, basically waking up from a nightmare by being saved from it, knowing that there are people around him now, that's how he got his memory back.

Chapter 52 spoilers.
Does this whole image - in particular the part in the red box - remind you visually of anything?
This kind of situation, the helplessness, the actual pose one was forced in.

Anyway, that aside only Sorachi (in a weekly manga context) would do a sudden (miiild Chapter 52 spoilers) start of a chapter with a POV of the villain's son to explain the villain's thought process here, it's such a cool writing decision. It seems to be such a trivial thing, but in just 2 pages he makes the villain's mindset totally understandable - if he didn't, the negotiation would not be able to be written nearly as well, if at all. It would just be "I'm gonna blow everything up!!" "Noo!! Don't do that!!!" etc. It wouldn't carry any weight. Only by peering into his heart can we actually understand which words are working on him and which aren't.

>Did he literally plan all of this?!
No, no, I'm not saying that. But I think it's a very interesting, and imo beautiful way to interpret it, him being retroactively saved like this, from his deepest fear, in the present, like in 3-gatsu no lion when you see Hinata (in the present) holding her hand out to Rei as a child.
>>
File: file.png (164 KB, 294x338)
164 KB PNG
https://gofile.io/d/FfR0B7
Okay I managed to screen record the TVer site's recording of oha suta's 2-b Destroyers segment.
I'm not sure if there's any more I missed since I doubt 18 min is enough for those kids to read 66 pages out loud but maybe they only ever aired a trimmed version... which makes sense on prime time national tv (well, prime time for kids who just woke up)
>>
File: 1767550032447926.png (1.21 MB, 1100x650)
1.21 MB PNG
>>
File: file.png (2.65 MB, 1800x1080)
2.65 MB PNG
>>
File: file.png (3.41 MB, 2110x2844)
3.41 MB PNG



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.