Does this have the most overrated dub of all time?
>dub threadwho fucking cares which pile of dogshit has the most flies in it
>>287601092ghost stories
They pronounced the main character's last name wrong the entire show
>>287601092the dub is great, everyone's voice is iconic especially botan. unless youve actually learned moon pretending everything is better in grating language you dont even understand is for retards
>>287601092Justin Cook is just too good as Yusuke
>>287601224"YOUR A MESHI"
>muh shadow realm>censorship memes LOL>they turned every character into a joke haha>I watched it as a kid
>>287601301Let's not forget a bunch tracks from the OST didn't make it to the dub version aside from a handful of the famous ones.
>>287601456None of the Japanese music made it into the dub. Actually, if you wanna random ass bit of trivia, the same guys who did the dub music for Duel Monsters are still mostly doing it for every subsequent series since, with them doing music for the Sevens dub. They've had a consistent gig for 20+ years.
>>287601092>dubshit>>>/r/eddit
Any language that isn't Japanese sounds like shit.
>>287601092DUELO A MUERTE CON CUCHILLOS
>>287601092That title clearly belongs to Funimation DBZ
>>287601092No, the dub is great
>>287601224It blew my mind when I realized Kuwabara's first name was Kazuma and not Kazoo-ma
>>287601301Dan Green really killed it as Yami Yugi, though
>>287601238>everyone's voice is iconic especially botanyou having fond memories from watching it as a kid doesn't make it "iconic", retard
>>287601092i remember muxing out the dubtrash track from a release of this and i must have saved like 25 gblove when dual-audio niggers claim it isn't bloat
>>287601092The arbitrary logo downgrade makes the dub unwatchable to me. We/Americans might need an edit that pairs the dub audio with the original Japanese video.
>>287601301>>censorship memes LOLAt least DM era censorship was funny instead of embarassing garbage like Yugioh has nowThe minds behind "Heckinhanderinos" or "Kewl Tunes" should be put down
smile bomb is better in englishcope and seethe about it all you like
>>287601092The DBZ dub is definitely the most overrated.
>>287602224>>287601867DBZ Kai Dub is crazy good thought. Normal one is unwatchable and cringe
>>287601092That's not Cowboy Bebop
anyone who cries about the "author's integrity" of a Saturday morning kids cartoon is NGMI
>>287601092I heard British Botan and fell in love When does the tournament stuff start? This was sold to me as a fighting show
>>287604916Episode 26.
>>287601092kuwabara in latin american spanish is such meme and "pelea a muerte con cuchillos? Pelea a muerte con cuchillos" HA
>>287601092I miss 80s dubs
>>287601092All dubs are shit and all "I usually watch subs but this dub is actually good" dubs are turbo shit.
>>287601472Why? Seriously, why did they have to get rid of the amazing original OST? Worst of all thanks to these fuckers the rest of the world outside of japan translated directly from the english dub and we ended up with the shit version.
>>287602164the full song is probably better in jp but the minute they used for the english OP is very good
>>287602504They're both unwatchable trash with hideously miscast retards.
>>287601092It's liked for the fun dynamics and one liners. It's really bad for actually understanding the story though. Messes up in small but important details of characterization, can't remember most lines I disliked but a particular one is when Yusuke tells Raizen that he'll get humans for him, the dub changes it to specifically "bad humans". Out of all the important scenes in YYH there's not a single one I prefer in the dub.
>>287607680important scenes..
>>287601092All dubs are overrated trash.
>>287607775off the top of my mind, genkai's death, yusuke's death and the reactions by his friends, yusuke and raizen's banter, toguro and yusuke's dynamic, what little characterization Hiei gets in his fights, kurama and yomi's interactions, the prelude to the three kings arc, etc. in other words the shit that you actually care about, all has lesser dialogue. A particularly shitty case is how Toguro is less obsessed with Genkai's age in the dub and a lot of dialogue from the flashbacks about his existential dread and how it relates to her is replaced with him flirting kek
>>287601301The GX dub was somehow even worse with every single character speaking like a retard
>>287609153It's generic punk rock soundtrack for the dub was also completely forgettable compared to GX's original music.
>>287608552I remember Kuwabara's death having him sound particularly retarded in Yusuke's mind in a way that was way worse than the japanese one.
>>287601092>Does this have the most overrated dub of all time?Is it objectively a good dub? Not really. It was a good dub for the early 2000's considering it aired on Toonami and that's how most people in the US were introduced to anime at large. Also, Kuwabara yelling "Urameshi!" is stuck in my head forever.
>>287609153And 5Ds was even worse than thatYusei was turned into a sonic OC and Jack was a drooling retard
>>287609153The GX Dub was a giant shitpost, even more than the original series' dub was. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S1uM1l0d2M
>>287601092It's fine on its own but when faggots attack you for introducing newcomers to the series with the original, it crosses a line. The dub is a novelty, not the definitive way to watch the series
The english singer for Smile Bomb is okay.I prefer the original JP because of the snare and the horns while the english tried to be too smooth with it.Plus the JP singer can hit much higher notes and hold them.
>>287601092Samurai Pizza Cats, seems like most of the discussion is always about the dub (which pretty much makes shit up as it goes and has nothing to do with the original script), people saying how it's better than the original etc. Even the upcoming video game will follow the dub lore in English release, while keeping the original lore only in Japanese.Then there are other language dubs and voice-overs that aired all over the world, all based on English dub, but since the English dub is full of puns, the ESL translators miss most of the jokes. It is it's kind of humor of its own though, nonsense sentences that suddenly make sense when you translate them literally back to English.It's not like Kyatto Ninden Teyandee is super obscure either, official DVD with English subs based on Japanese script released a long time ago, and I assume a lot of people (myself included) were introduced to Kyatto Ninden Teyandee though the Famicom game on pirate Famiclone carts.
>>287601092DBZ by a mile
>>287601092No it doesn't. It is the only anime where the dub is objectively better than the sub. All Japanese English speakers agree.
>>287601967Atem.
>>287608552worked fine on my machine
>>287612630I'm trans btw
>>287607472The English version legitimately has better instrumentals.
>>287610194They seem like they were having a good time.
>>287613459Not without the snare and horns
>>287613514until they all got fired because they never dubbed season 4
>>287613537I only watched the first couple of seasons, but wouldn't the dub not being completed have lined up with 4Kids going belly up?
>>287613599no 4kids did 5Ds too iircthey were just way behind schedule and the synchro cards were starting to release so they needed to skip to the 5Ds anime to shill them
>>287601092Bobobo's dub is incredibly overrated by people who never even tried to watch it in Japanese. Does it manage to work something out for untranslatable moments? Sure. It also drops the ball hard for jokes that are perfectly translatable in favor of comparatively mediocre punchlines ("haha, japanese text!" in particular gets old really quickly), and censors the strangest things, such as avoiding commenting on the shape of Softon's head. The original cast is also an all-star cast with actors like Takehito Koyasu, Masaya Onosaka and Ai Nonaka putting on some great performances that really show their range.
>>287608552>>287607680These scenes are so important that you're the only anon I've seen complain The only thing I see routinely get complained about is Toguro's limbo thing in the dub and I agree that that one is sketchy>Yusuke tells Raizen that he'll get humans for him, the dub changes it to specifically "bad humans"As if Japanese Yusuke was gonna go round up some good samaritans. Tthe Kuroko scene hits harder than that imo where she scolds him for dismissing people as a food and from what I remember the dub doesn't botch it or anything outside of dirty looks from vegans while wolfing down a burger
>>287613356You didn't have to specify that, I could tell from your contrarian post + time wasting question, OP.
Who the fuck watches dubs?
>>287609153That was fitting with GX tho.
>>287614441burgers
>>287601092It sounds good>it's just your nostalgiaAnd where the fuck is that shit when I rewatch, G gundam, pokemon, sailmoon, Ocean DBZ, yugioh, and any fucking thing else from my childhood.
>>287604916its literally the greatest tournament arc in all of anime and its not especially close. enjoy
>>287607332I had no idea the original OST was different wtf. I even liked the music in the english version too... but now I feel robbed
>>287614441normal, well adjusted people who have sex and reproduce.
>>287614772I hate tournament arcs and consider them lazy writing and I will admit that YYH did it right.
>>287601092Basically all dubs are garbage and should never be watched. The YYH dub praise is purely by nostalgia Toonami tards. The only watchable dub is Black Lagoon's cause JP Revy's Chinglish was intolerable for me>>287614903So normalfags that don't belong on /a/
>>287614441At least people had a better excuse to watch dubs 20+ years ago since in the early 2000s only the 0.1% turbonerds had access to JP animeI think a lot of those early 2000s dubs are remembered fondly not entirely because the dub was amazing but more simply that the show itself was good / entertaining and the dubs were of decent enough quality that it didn't detract from the viewing experience
>>287614903I'm a terminal loser and I'll always take the dub if it's an option because I can't gaslight myself into thinking japanese is actually a pleasant sounding language, it isn't, japanese voices are aggravating and shrill especially women. Of course this is /a/ where people rightfully worship nips and I do too just not on this particular point. if it's something live action however I cant stand a dub because the lip movement not matching the audio is extremely uncanny and distracting and I'd rather hear the actual actor's voice and intonation. But for an animated character or videogame yeah just give me the dub.
I didn't realize how good the dub for YYH was til I watched it in Japanese. Like 90% of Yusuke's sarcastic wit and the banter between the guys was entirely invented by the dub's script writers. The dialogue is EXTREMELY cliched and full of stock phrases in Japanese. So much so that a lot of the cast feel completely different in Japanese than they do in English. YYH's dub isn't localization so much as it is a total rewrite of the script.
>>287614441These days not so much. But when I was a kid (in the 1990s) dubs were pretty much the only way I got to watch anime. It's all that was at the video store, and it's all they had on TV. I didn't have access to online sources until the 00s, and even then most of the anime I watched was dubbed on TV or rented. My first forays with internet piracy were not very great (fucking Kazaa).
>>287604916There's multiple tournaments. The first one is Genkai's succession tournament which is one of the earlier arcs, and technically it only turns into a martial arts tournament in the third round after most of the competitors are eliminated. The big tournament everybody remembers from YYH, the Dark Tournament, starts on episode 26 and goes until episode 68. There's a final tournament arc as well, though it's truncated in length cause I think either Togashi or his editor wanted him to wrap it up already.
>>287615069If didn't grow up in the torrent era you can't talk shit about dubs from the 90s and early 2000s. If you didn't have to wait 3 days waiting for a sub release from fighting tooth and nail to avoid RAWfags then shut up about early dubs. We were like post Finno Korean Hominids discovering fire!
>>287614441Me. I'm watching Sentenced to Be a Hero and rewatching Tojima Wants to Be a Kamen Rider and Dorohedoro.
>>287615648and the rewrite sucks
>>287615648Sounds like fucking garbage.
>>287615646People watch the OG language of the OG media because fundamentally the original version will always be the best to watch as that was how its intended.Most dubs, especially with English anime dubs, suffer from the translation/localization problem x100 to x1000 depending on what hack decides to work on it since some can change the character dialogue or scenes so much that dub exclusive watchers will walk away with something utterly different in intention from what the original was. I don't even have a hate boner for dubs, but when I see foreign non-english dubs of anime, or Japanese dubs of Western media. its amazing how unprofessional and shitty a bunch of English dubs can get by comparison. Its the only way something like that awful Lovely complex dub could ever get made. Worse still is watching these hacks seep into subs.
>>287601092>all countries in the world dubs faithfully to japanese script >only english tards do whatever the fuck they want with manga or anime translationwhy
>>287616829>for the LOVE of GOD tell a joke!
>>287615648Yu Yu Hakusho dub is almost an abridge shart except they manage to actually hold the plot together and don't really take anything away from the story other than some minor things
>>287616338>How dare they make this childrens cartoon more cartoony!
>>287601092>watching dubbed anime
Naruto dub is rock solid too.
>>287601092Can't be worse than the Filipino dub where everyone has a western name, Kurama starting out as a girl named Denise until that episode where he's topless and turns into a guy named Dennis which they never bothered to explain and Genkai for some reason is a girl that turned into an old man.
>>287617381Lately Ive been watching dub so I can rewatch my old favorites and have it feel like new. So far I have no complaints on my behalf
>>287601092It's one of those anime that if I were to rewatch I would only watch the dub.
>>287609462I can hear Kuwabara's voice just by looking at this picture.
>>28761444190% of people that watch anime on Netflix watch dubs or something silly like that. I think even for Crunchyroll it's the majority
>>287601092"If you're gonna be a man, go all the way not half way." - Yusuke as he throws a tranny head first into a wall.
>>287615648Yup, they actually make Yusuke likable. People that hate on the sub are just blindly pro Japanese.
>>287601092It was okay.
>>287601092The dub is not only great, but the sub is really bland in comparison. It's the one anime where I actually dislike the original audio, even the OP dub mogs the sub. And no I never watched it as a kid and never watched it on toonami.
>>287620378You're honest. Too many faggots on here will blindly say the Japanese is better JUST because they hate Dubs.
>>287615648>YYH's dub isn't localization so much as it is a total rewrite of the script.That's what it had to do to make the show good. By all accounts it spits in the face of proper translating and respecting the original intent, it seemingly does everything wrong but still works perfectly. The script edits are almost entirely to add extra characterization and interaction between the cast, there are only a few occasional changes to the actual plot. The guy who voiced Yusuke also directed the dub, it was their first major project, he was like 20 years old at the time.
>>287601092I like the dub, I like certain anime with them or without them. I don’t get why anime watchers online spend a decent amount of time listing things they vehemently dislike. An overrated dub seems hard to judge because there are loads of people that are eager to say it is awful, no matter the case. The Yusuke VA is pretty solid and I can’t imagine a voice that can replace that version of the character. I like Botan’s a lot too, along with the rest of the cast. Smile Bomb was a nice song, and YYH was a good watch. Lot of tournaments in that anime though. Togashi seems to like doing either that or training arcs
>>287614441Children. Dubs mostly exist to introduce children to the medium.Notice that all the anime mentioned in this thread are things that would've aired when the average anon was a child. Yu Yu Hakusho, DBZ, Yu-Gi-Oh, etc. All shows that people have fond nostalgia for despite being objectively terrible as adaptations because they were children when they saw it.Obviously, once people reach their teens they usually mature into watching the original version.
>>287602164my niggaFROM PEOPLE I DONT EVEN KNOWWWW
>>287620378character is pure sex, dont remember her name though
everyone's voice is perfect for their character and the writing is great, I don't get the issue>japanese good english badoh right
>>287620492>The guy who voiced Yusuke also directed the dub, it was their first major project, he was like 20 years old at the time.The other big reason it turned out well is because he sincerely really liked the show and was legitimately trying to give the English version a cool script. That's the thing a lot of modern near-parody dubs miss.
>>287602504Not one thing about any version of Dragonball is "crazy good" unless you are latinx.
I actually rewatched this recently. The dub actually sucked and took out so much of the story just by making it dubbed. You just have to look at the Fractured Fairy Tale team in the Dark Tournament saga as one of the tiny, minor edits.
>>287620378>The dub is not only great, but the sub is really bland in comparison.This! I too repeat this over and over again because Joey Bazinga (The Anime Man) told me so. We should be friends, since we're both non-Japanese speakers who watch anime experts on YouTube!
>>287607332At this point I think part of it might be Japanese Samurai autism stuff. Both Pokemon and Yugioh are owned in-house by the Pokemon Company, and Konami respectively. Originally it was done by 4kids because they just liked leaving their mark on everything. But now I have to think it's just like, "the Japanese version has its own music, and the other versions have their own. That's just how it's always been."
>>287607680> Botan: "Yusuke, use your head!"> Yusuke: "You want me to hit him with my head!?"Sold me on the dub.
>>287612630I concur
>>287602164Running in a crowd In a faceless town I need to feel the touch of a friend In the countryside I wander far and wide The isolation gets me again
>>287617486My main complaint is that after settling on Believe It! The flashback where it's revealed that he inherited that from his mom didn't work unless it was translated as: "Y'know?" and so they had to unceremoniously abandon his iconic catchphrase and rewrite his speaking pattern to reincorporate the new translation choice after literally like 40 hours of episodes.I miss hearing: "Believe it!"
>>287602164>>287621343>>287623113Truuuuuuuuu
>>287612630>the only anime where the dub is objectively better than the subthere is at least one other one.
>>287621738This. He watched the entire series in full before even beginning to cast people, which is how he knew to cast Ogre as the Narrator, too
>>287609153The animation also took a dive, which is a shame, because they had Alexis>>287610194I got what they were going for, but what made it work with OG YGO is that there were genuinely cool moments in-between
>>287611586EN singer compensated by having a deeper voice, it added a kind of warmth to the song. But JP is still great for how she holds those higher notes, they're always better with that stuff in general.>>287612630Yusuke talked more like a punk in the dub, yeah. There were also some goofy voices for better or worse, like one of those Black Black Club guys had this really stereotypical Japanese accent
>>287618018Hiei being Vincent felt fitting, even if all those names were hilarious picks.>>287621738>>287623263Feels crazy doing that at his age, but maybe it took a young guy who was in-the-know about what people like. I'd say some of the VAs also adjusted well to their character's development, Hiei sounded more gruff and snarky in his villain intro, then spoke more calmly. Kuwabara usually sounded cartoonish, but he could deliver sincere lines well, like when Kuwabara's apologizing to Yukina at the base, or his frustration over Yusuke 1v1ing Sensui
>>287602164Correct
>>287615648The JPN script is hard carried by its cast more than anything.
I miss Vic.
>>287614441Kids, normalfags in a lot of countries, con-goers.
>watching dubsGo back
>>287602164A truly incomprehensible opinion, the vocals are way better in JP.
>>287614506Only the first half of GX was shitpostyThe tonal dissonance in Season 3 when the show starts to get more serious but the characters are all still acting like spongebob characters really hurts. That's probably part of why they never bothered finishing the dub, because Judai was much more mature after that but they have no idea how to dub him as anything other than a snarky retard. Compare the season 3 OPs>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNQCYDO4IS0>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vRkbpCASo4They were STILL using "Get Your Game On" in a season where most of the cast are getting murdered left and right.
>the original SUCKED and my shitty dub FIXED ITplease kill yourselves
>>287622887I'm amazed how many people don't know this, but Yugioh is still functionally dubbed by 4kids to this day. Where did you think Konami suddenly got a full in-house dubbing studio exactly when 4kids died? They literally just acquired 4kids' dubbing studio and staff. That's why modern Yugioh dubs still have obvious "4kids writing".
>>287627311Konami's western side is still run by the Upper Deck guys too even after the lawsuit That's why we're stuck with subhumans like Tewart and Jerome making all the decisions
>>287601092I watched it on eBay VCDs with HK subs, I have never actually seen the dub
