People look at me weird whenever I say I download my anime.
>torrenting culturewhat?
Stop talking to those people about anime then
>>287601704i've been downloading off of primitive russian (or something) streaming sites that have hardcoded subs and animekai watermarksit's sad but I'll swear it's the least trouble
>>287601756Literally everywhere else, with /a/ being the sole exception.
And people tell me I'm wrong for saying streaming was a mistake. If you can't even figure bittorent out. you're not a real nerd.
>>287601791Stop going anywhere else.
Nyaa.si is still going.
>>287601704How about you just shut the fuck up and torrent in private like everyone else?
>>287601932I don't even turn my VPN on...
>>287601704>Torrenting cultureThis is a good thing. Gatekeeping is good, if you don't even have to gatekeep, because its "cringe" to do the things, then thats an objective positive.
>>287602126This, and less people torrenting makes sure that it remains uncompromised and alive. If too many people know about torrenting, many bad things might happen
>>287601704It was always a niche thing. Most people don't even use an ad blocker.
>>287601704I was forced to watch dubbed anime one an XBOX the other day so I feel your pain
>>287601704normies have never been into torrenting for some reason even though its incredibly easy and safe (if youre not a retard). And these days unless it's some niche content it's not even slow to download like it was back in the day, I can download an 8 gig movie in like 5 minutes if there's seeders. It's just crazy normies will gladly hop on streaming services with forever subscription fees like its nothing but its total crickets for a free and arguably more convenient alternative. A lot of people seem to think your ISP will call the FBI on you if you torrent something, I guess all those million dollar lawsuits over downloading a song on napster back in the day worked as intended.
>>287601704Why are you talking to people about anime?
people?
>>287601704when have you never gotten weird looks about talking about torrenting?
>>287601704brother it's always been like that
>>287601704Stop talking to normalfags. In fact why are you revealing your powerlevel at all?
>>287602362torrenting requires basic tech literacy, like knowledge of what files and folder structures are and they also have to understand the concept of seeders when normies are used to downloading everything from the "cloud" which they act like isnt just someone elses computer. this kind of knowledge has been intentionally eroded by tech companies among normoids over the years so that they stay inside the companies controlled ecosystems.
>>287602192>and less people torrenting makes sure that it remains uncompromised and alive.This is quite literally the opposite of reality
>>287604451I guess he means that if torrenting isn't used by too many people, THEY won't bother with cracking down on it.
>>287601704Cute Sakuraposter
>>287601704you're not supposed to talk about piracy out loud
>>287604521Its been thirty years, and fifteen since the last nyaapocalypse, nothing will happen.
>>287601704>gatekeep so hard that nobody under the age of 30 knows how to do something>"those damn younguns don't know nothing"you have turned into a boomer.
>talking to people>talking to people about anime>talking to people about anime face to faceWhat happened to hiding your powerlevel?
>>287601704Its not dying so much as its not longer strictly necessary for people. There was a long period of time there where torrents and fansubs was literally the only way you could watch many shows, because there was no official translations or localization. Fucking hell, even Neon Genesis Evangelion went like 20 years where there was no legal way to watch it that wasn't an increasingly scarce dvd collection from the 90s that went for 3 or 4 hundred dollars on ebay. Of course people would torrent it! As Gaben said about video games: piracy is primarily a service issue. With anime entering into the mainstream, such that you can find seasonal anime on netflix and amazon prime now which are not even specifically anime streaming services, anime is simply more accessible now than it ever has been. You CAN torrent, but for most people the question is "why would you bother"? They think its always going to be available on streaming the same way that popular movies and shows are, they don't think about torrenting The Office because they know they can always turn on Netflix and watch it there. So why would they torrent Demon Slayer?
>>287605386This is true but also>>287603175this is true.Both of these things kind of sum it up..although I'll add one big negative about streaming sites is everything is curated and sponsored, All produced by the same companies.People are basically given the illusion of choice and also the illusion of freedom sold under a guise of convenience that removes a lot of the agency of being a human and discovering and forming your own taste when it comes to modern streaming servicesThe problem is modern streaming services have just fallen trap and become the same thing as cable and legacy media was once corporations moved in and figured out how to monopolize the internet like everything else and we don't have a new alternative and way to find shit now because traditional websites are dead and most traffic on the internet is centered on a few sites.What this means for torrenting is that the average person/normie feels they have no need to explore or dig deeper into anime beyond the stuff that is pushed by the algorithm , no need to post on forums and discuss or search out anime or try anything new, With streaming sites, With streaming sites most normies are bound to watch the old classics first for nostalgia purposes then they are locked into a algorithm loop of stuff that is all the same, no growth, constantly stuck in a cycle of consuming media that is cheaply produced by slave labor korean sweatshops to cut corners or AI to appease corporate investors and improve profit marginsThis isn't just exclusive to anime, It's every form of media. Even though 4chan annoys the fuck out of me with how it's fallen victim to advertisers and other covert shill tactics, it's one of the last bastions of the old internet so here we are, the few who have to keep shit like torrenting alive.tldr; Torrenting is dead because people are increasingly conditioned to be fed slop and the younger gens have no frame of reference to what life was like beforehand
I only figured out how to torrent in 2006. Is it weird I'm insecure and figured out how to watch anime back in the early 2000s even though I looked for it?
>>287601704General intelligence is dropping hard.
Explain to me how torrenting is superior when you are just downloading a Crunchyroll screen-rip
>>287604644>nothing ever happensUntil it does
>>287606237>screen-ripIt's not a screen rip.
>>287606180What does being insecure have to do with it?>>287606237Because you can keep it if you want.
>>287602283faster
>>287605203i doi talk about anime in social settings, at work, etc so that all these people will get the ick and leave me alonethat way i won't get invited to some retarded social functions and can focus on myself and a few trusted friends
>>287606237It doesn't matter honestly, What does matter is that crunchyroll exists and the same people who don't care now are the same people who ignored the warnings years ago when people said fansub groups would die and crunchyroll/netflix having a monopoly on anime subs would lead to the current problem of everything sounding and looking the exact same and being soulless slop.So the larger issue is that instead of searching nyaa and siing multiple fangroups doing a show, we have one company that hires a bunch of people who don't give a shit doing every show shittily and censoring or editing things they don't like because people like us never spoke up enough about it and people like you never listen
>>287606332I wish I were part of the anime community fully years earlier lol. I remember buying some blade of the immortal back in 2003. The interest was clearly there
>>287606502>of everything sounding and looking the exact same and being soulless slop.It was the same before CR dominance. You just got tired of anime.
>>287606237I watch old anime not dubbed by Crunchyroll, dumb seasonalshitter.
>>287606136>companieslolwat?? Just go to hianime and pirate the streaming.
>>287601704People look at me weird whenever I admit I want to kiss Sakura
>>287607200>>287607394>It was always this way anon, it's just a you problem>Just don't worry about the industry and world getting worse and worse, just focus on yourselfThis shit never works, I've heard the same shit for different slippery slopes throughout the years and what happens is people get normalized to the new way of life or things changing so much that memories distort or perhaps they are too young to even have memories of when things were different, This is why people like me will keep yelling at clouds, History is only recorded if you write it and with social media being the way it is, narratives are constantly being written by corps that tell you things were always this way and to not care, just keep on simply existing in a docile state.Things like torrenting are relatively non consequential but they are signs of an overall control over individual expression and freedom so it's important to keep them going
>>287601704You tell people who can see your face that you download anime?I'm pretty sure that's why they look at you weird.
>>287607671You have never seen the threads where they dump screenshots of ancient newsgroup posts?They complained about the death of anime before you were even born.
>>287607709And when you look at those posts, they had the same arguments about things getting worse, except back then, things weren't as bad yet.They've actually gotten worse, much like they predicted.
>>287607709I don't think those people are right but I also don't think they are completely wrong.I'm not trying to say that anime is dead or anything is dead. I'm just stressing it's important to realize the inner workings of the industries of media you consume and speak out about them/ pushback.I'll give one example for people who play video games. Shit goes like this>Horse armor released as paid dlc for TES OblivionPeople threw a huge stink over it but eventually the pushback cooled off and companies continued to slowly over time push towards an end goal>paid dlc becomes normalized and loot boxes are introduced, rng microtransactionsPeople push back against the loot boxes and rng microtransactions but people also go "Oh paid dlc isn't SOOOO bad, just look at the microtransactions">Microtransactions and rng gambling normalizedThe slope goes on,Do you get my point at least? I just ask that people try to remember the history of things and connect the dots, Those people arguing about anime being dead before had an element of truth to it, Things were changing for the negative or rather there was complaints to be had about anime back then and nobody did a thing about it, It's not that nothing EVER happens it's that happenings happen slowly over time and people's resistance towards it is also eroded just as slowly .
I don't know what the hell you're talking about,all the guys around me talk about football and football bets
>>287608237The barbershop just ain't what it used to be.
>>287602126>the less people torrent and make torrents the better it isGreat opinion thank you very much, I suppose you also believe that we're better off with nyaa dying since that'll help us hide from normalfags better?
>>287601756
>>287601704It already died and is now slowly reviving, because zoomertards are finally realizing how shit streaming services are.
>>287606237torrenting fansubs > torrenting crunchy shit > streaming crunchy shitSimple as.
>>287607394>pirate the censored, 4-kids style rewrite!What's the point?
I get the same quality if I just watch it on a random piracy site
>>287601704Why would I download my anime when I can just use pirate sites?
>>287606253Yeah, hey, underage retard, I literally mentioned the thing that did happen and we were fine.
>>287608662The bulk of people who would be gatekept through basic measures leech and don't seed anyway goof. The ones who seed and have a willingness to contribute will do so irregardless of whatever lack of "culture" or gatekeeping exists.
>>287609681To avoid quality loss from data compression. I bet you listen to music from jewtube.
>>287609681So I can stream it to my TV.
>>287611277The majority of normalfags stream anime on their phone or tablet while wearing garbage headphones or lossy wireless earbuds. While higher quality is an objective benefit it's meaningless to faggots who simply don't care in the first place, because their setup already compromises so much that they don't really notice the jump from a heavily compressed "720p" stream on watchanimeonline to a 1080p Blu-Ray encode.Normalfaga will literally sacrifice everything for the sake of immediate convenience, even long term convenience.
>>287611733This is true, and this is why "AI" dooms us all.
>>287611783Don't put it in quotation marks just because it's not identical to the shitty sci-fi stories that only people who know nothing about technology care about. ChatGPT is a lot more insightful, helpful, and creative than you will ever be.
>>287611733>even long term convenienceOr just at the cost of maintenance or actually owning stuff. They prefer to conveniently rent rather than own but be meticulous. Which of course makes things worse for the people that want to own.
>>287611958You're just so low IQ that chatgpt actually impresses you.
>>287606237Does Crunchyroll or whatever streaming site work with anime4k? Yeah, didn't think so.
>>287604644>fifteen since the last nyaapocalypse
>>287611733If you avoid watching anime because the quality isn't perfect, for example, it isn't available in good enough quality, guess you gotta skip it, that's normalfag too.
the last time I told someone that I download anime they made fun of me for not having money. I mean, they're right about me not having money to waste on fucking anime. I'll buy merch and attend special screenings because the physical experience is what I'm all about.
Downloading is always a good thing. The whining about anime streaming sites going down is less common on here than whining about manga reading sites going down, but it's the same shit. If you download and store what you want you don't have to worry needing to adjust to new sites that pop up. Or what content they host. Especially with anime it's nice to get what copy you want instead of just sticking with whatever is uploaded to a given streaming site.
>>287601704I usually torrent anime for convenience but isn't it all still made at 720p? You're not really missing anything by streaming it.
>>287613034This, also with torrenting you can usually preemptively tell if a pack is going to have some issue or problem before you start, whereas with some random streaming site you could be 20 episodes in and the subs turn to dogshit, or they start cutting the op or something.
>>287601704Streaming sites are more than good enough. It isn't 2008 anymore. There's almost no difference in quality between a crunchyroll rip and something on animekai.
>>287613426Except it's integrated into some cancerous site.
>>287613790brave browser nigga
>>287613790Do you not have adblock?
>>287613834Wow brave removes all content around <video> tags???
>>287601704I know many dozens of people who torrent their anime Maybe don't hang out with retards?
>>287614560I've had like 5 friends for my entire 30 year life, yet you know "dozens" who not only watch anime but pirate it? Do you fly a lot?
>>287614585When did I say they were my friends?
>>287602362>normiesFuck off, normalfag.
>>287602362>normies
>>287613426convenience normalfags don't belong on /a/. you have no soul
>>287601704I'm 100% convinced she does compensated dating with old salarymen.
>>287614633>>287614810The funniest part is that he's so new he won't know what you mean.
>>287605203sometimes you meet someone you work or go to school with and you gradually realize you're on the same powerlevel but you still keep it a secret from others.
>>287614904What gave you that impression?
>>287615395I've been here since I was an underage b& in 2004, so sorry for not using le epic 4chan culture term.
>>287601704No of course not.>torenting animethat's just you, most watch online
>>287615791Whatever you say normalfag
>>287601704We're all weird here.
>>287606367Gimp won't let me, I already tried.
Just don't ever talk to Japs about torrenting. They're ridiculously puritanical about pirating.
>>287601704Normalfags have never understood torrenting. Status quo remains.
>>287616082>Why yes, I do know about the latest xitter scandal. Does anybody else heard of the Jap scandal on xittter? I did xddd does anybody else? I just HAVE to make sure you know about it.
>>287601704I torrent, but I also stream. Like I stream Tsurikichi Sanpei, but torrent Giant Robo. All a case of file size, really, since I seed till I bleed.Speaking of niche are their any GKfags willing to give me a QRD on them? Do I need an airbrush or is brush painting fine? My house does not have opening windows. I have done about 80 plastic model kits this way and results have been satisfactory. I really want the e2046 Lime and right now it is cheap.>>287614904Funny story, that is how my parents got together.
>>287616765>GKtry asking in the buyfag thread
>>287601704zoomers are obsessed with streaming. they probably dont even know how to torrent so it's becoming more obscure
>>287617542Most zoomers (hell, most people) prefer to watch anime on their tv's and phones over a desktop computer because it's more comfortable. That's why they prefer to buy their shit because everything they want is just a few clicks away, and for the normalfags who know how to pirate, they use streaming sites over torrenting for those reasons because they probably just don't care about the quality loss from streaming and don't have the time or drive storage needed to set up a proper media server, along with the fact that it has the benefits of official services (needing a few clicks to watch whatever instantly instead of having to download shows and use disk space). Obviously, torrenting is better for people like us who have free time and just overall better in the long term, but streaming obviously has its own benefits and appeals to casuals who just want to watch shit whenever without having to put in as much effort, and I could really give less of a shit about the ways people watch the shows they like even if torrenting shows is just objectively the superior way to watch things.
>>287601704Torrenting will never die because it's a decentralized protocol, as for the culture around it yeah it seems like it's in decline because (most people but not all from) new generations don't care, at least not at the moment, honestly I think in few years from now free computing and the free internet will die with along digital identity, and the only way to get certain things will be through torrent so it may see a resurgence, maybe they'll start caring then?
>>287601704>revealing your power level to normalfagsYou have only yourself to blame at.
If you don't watch anime on TV like the glorious nipponese you'te not a real anime fan
>>287618347Technically I do watch anime on a TV
>>287613426On a very low abstract level, yes, you're right, but the argument that it's more convenient or just "good enough" doesn't work either. If I stream anime, and it buffers ONCE, that completely negates the benefits of using a stream platform. If I go to look up an episode and it's not there, or god forbid actually pay money for a service and it has network issues, or even slightly delays my watching of a show, it becomes immediately worse than torrenting. When I press play, my show starts instantly. All those little microseconds of waiting, buffering, looking things up, logging in, changing quality settings, all of those rob you of valuable time that you will never, ever get back. Life is short, and NEETdom is shorter.
>>287601741FPTP. I can't imagine having anything resembling a culture about a means of downloading files.
>streaming is g-*buffer issues*Streamsisters...?!
>>287619211Never happened to me, have you tried not living in the third world
>>287611733Counterpoint: not every anime is worth this treatment. I'd rather not waste my storage space on 4K HD FLAC audio episodes of mediocre seasonals that I'm unlikely to ever watch again. For anime I remember fondly, on the other hand, I'd import the BD directly from Japan if possible and rip it myself.Though I understand that some anons want to build an anime Library of Alexandria for when the internet shuts down due to WW3 or when the ZOG starts banning all pre-pozzed era media.
>>287606237It's free, I have hotkeys set up to take frame-perfect screenshots whenever I want to, I can turn the subs on and off whenever I want to, don't have to deal with buffering, and my access to the show can't be revoked when Crunchyroll loses their license to it. You would have to be retarded to pay for a worse product than what's available for free.
>>287611733>1080p Blu-Ray encodethis nigga watches upscaled slop HAHAHAHAHA. shut your bitch ass up faggot you don't know shit, get off your high horse. you probably download from nyaa LMFAO.
>>287601704Torrenting made sense back when streaming was actual dogshit, but any halfway decent streaming site nowadays has at least 1080p.Torrenting is now only for long-term storage (not ideal for airing series if wanna wait for BDs), for getting good screenshots, or for making edits and such.
>>287619391>any halfway decent streaming site nowadays has at least 1080pIt's still streaming so the bitrate's gonna fucked. How can you accept such quality?
>>287602362>normies have never been into torrenting Yes they have. Late 90's and early 2000's was peak torrenting core. Everyone was doing it back then. The amount of people who knew how to torrent and barely knew how to use a computer was insane.
>>287620135Normalfags didn't know how to use computers back then. You needed to be some degree of nerd to surf the web.
>>287620135>Late 90'sTorrenting didn't exist at all until 2001 and took a few years after that to really take off.
>>287620779Not him but interesting. I never looked into the history of it. I started torrenting ~2005 or so, so it seems like I was fairly early.
>>287620158>>287620779Why do zoomers make stuff up?
>>287620889Napster wasn't BitTorrent. It was closer to something like Soulseek. You obviously wouldn't know this since you weren't born yet.
>>287619332>he doesn't know the difference between TV release resolution and studio creation resolution>he doesn't know streaming sites bitstarve their content so they're not worth saving after bds are ripped>he doesn't download high-bitrate full-grain cel anime>he doesn't download native resolution BD masters>he's never even heard of anibin>he's still not in a private trackerSit down, shut up, and lurk moar, young brainrotted zoomer. Your betters are talking, you double nigger.
>>287619497Times have changed, the differences are negligible.
>>287601704No, torrenting culture is still big, it's just that people cannot affford the HDD space and offload it onto streaming sites. Me and my bro are still in that sort of sphere
>>287620135>>287620779>>287620935Should have said "File sharing", it's a better and broader term. File sharing was defiantly a thing in the 90's which had the same principles of peer-to-peer system that gave you the same results of getting free shit.
is sakuraculture dying
>>287601704But do you seed
>>287621966>had the same principles of peer-to-peer systemNapster required you to download from a single peer in a single sitting and it was limited to music.
>>287601704The same people as before torrent, but trillions of normalfags have entered the hobby in the past decade.
>this threadWhy do people think zoomers are solely the problem with the world when it's just normgroids being normgroids and more normgroids appeared on the internet when zoomers grew up
>>287622584Zoomers are the first generation without a rebellious phase in a long, long time. rebellious phases are necessary if you want creativity because it's when a generation explores their limits and finds themselves. Piracy is one such form of rebellion cracked down on by overbearing parents, radical styles of music and art are another, as are secret and esoteric forms of communication and social meetings. Can YOU think of any of those that Zoomers are known for? The problem with Millennial parents having more tech savviness than the zoomers that come after them is abundantly clear in that they can keep them under their thumb effectively until they're too old to have any rebellious thoughts. Even the boomer normgroids of yesterday knew this and had rebellious urges.
>>287622726I don't think it's their fault though, they were raised in a pretty shitty time to live and are now having their minds raped by things like short form content and hyper-personal algorithm that are specifically tailored and scientifically engineered to hack into their brains and keep them engaged with them as long as possible.Back in the 2000s and even the 2010s this stuff simply either did not exist or was a lot more primitive than it is nowadays. If zoomers grew up on an internet more like what older generations had then they probably wouldn't be so fucked up like this.
>>287622091feed even.
>>287622584Oh gee I wonder why.
>>287623046>shitty clickbait news articlesAre you that obsessive spammer from /g/
>>287623046>muh fags and troons le bad>>>/pol/
>>287612213
>>287623153Denouncing degeneracy is not /pol/
>>287623887How much deeper do you want to dig your hole?
>>287623046>>287623887
>>287622726>Zoomers are the first generation without a rebellious phase in a long, long timeI have noticed this too, it's not torrenting that is dead, it's counterculture in general that is dead (being killed).>>287622770They actively refuse any kind of help though.
>>287624172>They actively refuse any kind of help though.There are some that actively do get help though. I remember when a lot of them were ditching smartphones entirely a while ago and getting cellphones instead. Others are limiting their time spent online or ditching crap with algorithmic feeds.You shouldn't generalise all of them as being the same old tik tok zombies, IMO.Also, gen alpha is going to be way worse off than zoomers ever will be.
>>287624311Of course not ALL of them, but most of them seems unable to do anything about their situation meanwhile they are getting fucked over by everyone including governements and corporations, I'm talking of the majority of my interactions with them (there were few based genzers of course and I'm myself zillennial/older genz, mid 90's).They'll tell you they that they are tired of being controlled by centralized algorithmic platforms, but then absolutely refuse to use anything self-hosted or decentralized, they'll tell you they are tired of software enshittification but then absolutely refuse to use anything open-source or Linux-based, the result is that even most of the "alternative" stuff is now locked behind Discord, Youtube, etc, and that decentralized stuff like torrent is on the decline.If I had to compress gen z in a single sentence it would be the generation of "learned helplessness".>gen alpha is going to be way worseMaybe, and maybe this will make them rebel unlike genz, who knows.
>>287624433We failed them. In our attempt to gatekeep our hobbies, we forgot to guide the younger generation.
>>287612488> they made fun of me for not having moneyPay them no mind, Anon. He who mocks the poor rebukes his Creator.
>>287619305> I have hotkeys set up to take frame-perfect screenshots whenever I want toAny tips? I've wanted to do this forever but haven't sat down and figured it out yet
What sites does everyone use? I have like every BitTorrent plug in active but I feel like all my results are always pretty bad. I haven't figured out how to use jackett yet.
>>287601704We should normalize and encourage killing on the spot any faggots attempting to talk about torrenting and piracy in public.This is not some cool guy club, you will not get ovations for it and you'll get called a retarded faggot if another website will blow up and get closed down due to legal issues or not keeping up with food of braindead, entitled normies.Download your shit and learn to shut the fuck up.
>>287624496>In our attempt to gatekeep our hobbies, we forgot to guide the younger generationPrivate trackers are the worst offenders for this.>>287624814And then what? What happens in 20-30 years when all the torrenters will be old and tired, and noone uploads anything anymore or can be bothered to seed? Want to end up like usenet and irc?
>>287622373The Napster client tried to limit it to file extensions like mp3, but third party clients could do other file types.Anyway, internet piracy started with music. Video was too heavy and didn't get viable until a couple of years later.
>>287624831Dunno, probably we all gonna be dead so not my business.Also - What are you doing to keep this from happening? Where is your little, private server full of obscure treasures? How much shit you're seeding?Attracting masses to these obscure niches is very retarded. Not /a/ related, but we saw just few weeks ago what happened with Myrient because normies smelled free shit and some jeets made application to download shit en masse. The normies just consume, they don't understand the concept of moderation and putting something back into the communal system.And obviously on top of that there are all the legal issues. The more publicly discussed the service is, the more probable is that copyright holders and lawyers representing them will find it.And obviously just the fact that screeching about you pirating shit is just obnoxious and retarded.
>>287624942>we all gonna be dead so not my businessShortsighted, "I got mine fuck you", classic.>What are you doing to keep this from happening?I'm doing my part.>what happened with MyrientBad example, they were retarded because they wanted direct download and to control everything, instead of using decentralized file sharing like torrents, it was entirely their fault, there is nothing bad with automated download, it's less than 100~ lines of Python, it's the model that was wrong. Everyone should use torrents for filesharing and the trackers should be more open, making routine dumps of their databases.>Attracting massesNot the masses (which don't care anyway), but we do need new blood, there are likeminded people and there are retards in every generation, gatekeeping should act as a filter not as a blockade.
>private trackersThis concept always seemed retarded to me.
>>287625034Their only purpose should be to ensure that shit gets seeded, that's it, they shouldn't have all the power that they have, they are retarded powertrippers but they could be so much better.
>>287601704>x culture
>>287625034>>287625071Sounds like you don't have any friends.Private trackers ensure your userbase is comprised of people who solely do hit and runs and encourage people to seed everything in their library. Something like 90% of nyaa's torrents are dead, even discounting seasonal episode torrents, and that's because nobody gives a shit about seeding. The only releases that do get consistent seeds are the ones with communities around them (and often, it's people who are also seeding those torrents on private trackers).
Stremio with torrentio using nyaa as a source is technically torrents.
>>287601704Good. Thanks to streaming torrenting is still a secret club.I don't even get warnings from my ISP anymore about going to piratebay on the rare occasion that I want to watch something that isn't anime or on Youtube.
For me it's watching on youtube at 240p in multiple 10min long parts back in 2008.
>>287625408>Sounds like you don't have any friends.Yes I don't, yet I seed a lot of stuff from nyaa, the two things are completely uncorrelated.Letting a cabal of nepotistic power trippers control torrenting is a completely retarded idea, going against decentralization and everything torrent should be, it will backfire in the future.
>>287625408>Sounds like you don't have any friends.Why?
>>287625461Those were better times.
>>287625464>Letting a cabal of nepotistic power trippers control torrenting is a completely retarded idea,Hardly controlling torrenting when a lot of those people also wouldn't be seeding if it weren't for private trackers rewarding that behavior, and a lot of releases wouldn't be up through torrents and instead through far worse DDL programs without private trackers ensuring that they stay up. >it will backfire in the future.Its worked for the past few decades.
>>287618064Im in the second normalfag pool desu. Ive torrented the odd show I will rewatch but I watch 30-40 shows per season. I cba with the hassle/storage management for torrenting all of them, especially when its stuff Ill never watch again. The thing with streamfags that annoys me is when people post low res images in the threads for airing stuff.
>>287626597>I watch 30-40 shows per seasonWhat the fuck is wrong with you?
>>287626698I like most stuff (that doesnt make it good), I like shitposting with anons even more. I've watched slop that I thought would be good. I've watched good shows that I thought would be slop.
>>287601704Streaming anime has always been more popular among normalfags than downloading. Also the average normalfag either genuinely doesn't know how to torrent or they think you're guaranteed to get in trouble with your ISP for doing it.
>>287626964The point is that 30-40 isn't enough to cover the current season. You need to step up your game.
>>287627077I meant on average. This season its 42 and thats without watching stuff that are big sequels like Re:Zero or Iruma-kun etc. My point was more why tf would I torrent all of these shows instead of a small few?
>>287627228Because torrenting them via RSS is easier and gives you better quality than illegal streaming sites.
>>287625158>imasara
>>287612488People who insult you for being broke are usually broke but pay needless amounts of money on luxury goods. It used to be called "nigger rich" back in the day but given the wealth divide increasing everyone who isn't rich seems to carry this mindset
>>287628394That's a good one. Whenever I state that I want to pay for a specific thing, I get called poor, even though I wouldn't even notice the effect of paying for "specific thing" on my bank account.
>>287601704i downloaded.... from gogoanime. i used to download from CR before they sold out.
>>287608856just like me. gosling gosling.
>>287622726rebellious phases are just rebellious phases though. Boomers championed the "Make love, not War, slogan and the line from The Who's My Generation "I hope I die before I get old" was their favorite song, yet they ended up growing up to be the generation to hold power for the longest and have a deathgrip on said power, along with distilling the forever-war method to a science.
>>287610286>The ones who seed and have a willingness to contribute will do so irregardless of whatever lack of "culture" or gatekeeping exists.no one seeded the old animes and hentais i wanted. so i locked my current season seeds to 256kbps in vengence.
>>287601704No reason to download with streaming be available on dozens of websites.
>>287621553>studio creation resolutionthere's no studio leaks being seeded for modern animes at all. now go away, african obsessed latinxers.
>>287621553also your screenshot is from a filtered upscaled release of a gundam animes. you zoomers are terrible and were never there. i beat you also use HQ8X filters on 2D anime games.
>>287629008So what's yout point, do nothing and let the status quo fuck you over?Boomers did change some things, there is no more segregation is schools, more sexual freedom, and a "war is le bad" cultural background (wars happens regardless but optics are important), now you may say that these things are good or bad or just a facade, you may say that their materialist and edonist culture was a downgrade, but regardless of what you think they did make a tangible change.New generations could make a change too, if they wanted, but they don't.
>>287624311>smartphones entirely a while ago and getting cellphones instead.brah cellphones are smartphones....
>>287625034>>287625071the purpose is they're mostly "hidden" and don't get taken down like Napster. or that one guy in japan who was uploading most of the anime TV broadcasts.
>>287601704I haven't seen any YHBT releases in a while. I wonder where they went>>287602283>It was always a niche thingFalse. How do you think the vast majority of people got anime circa 2003?
>>287629268>got anime circa 2003?fansub blogs and websites existed. until from lawyers and license holders took them down. at least that was what happened in my cunt.
>>287624433I remember a few years back 4chan would talk about gen alpha as if they'd be the ones to stop all the madness only for shit like "67" to be their first meme breakthrough. Every generation looks at the upcoming generation with hope only to hate them even more once they start growing up
>>287606237because CR region blocked me and ripping from CR myself if a chore? also they should rip Muse Asia more.
>>287606237>screen-ripholy shit anon please tell me you watch handycam recordings of some douchbag's computer screen. I'm REALLY hoping this is what you actually do and you didn't just misuse a very common and definable phrase
>>287607200>same before CR dominance. You just got tired of anime.hell no, zoomers. CR were the pirates. they sold out. we must revive the pirate sekrit society.i still prefer streaming from buccaneers though.
>>287629313probably true. i already hate the younglings who were like 4 yrs younger than me.
>>287629307and those sites used torrents and DDL. Torrenting is a method of downloading that preserves availability online. It isn't some special ritual that needs any more thought than "configure your client correctly" and *click*
>>287629313I just want them to bring back counterculture, I am ready to help them in any way possible even if I already know I will hate their culture, all I ask from them is they react in some way.
>>287629360>ripping from CR myself IS a chore?>>287629440the blog mostly had
>>287629459
>>287629459>>>287629440>the blog mostly hadcrap post auto posted before i finished. i recall the blog used direct downloads to their own private servers or Mediafire shit links.
>>287629457counterculture exists. You're not going to find it here on this website or in this hobby. 4chan has been mainstream for fifteen years, anime has been mainstream for just as long if not longer. Look elsewhere, mid twenty something
>>287601704Its IRC that is actually dying, still sad about the closure of Arutha.
>>287629313If they aren't obsessed over twitter politics like you, I'd say we're good. The internet was like that before you made it about Trump.Stay mad, seethe and cope.
>>287629503I did look elsewhere, I even looked on darknet, everything is gay or dead, I found not a single exception to this.This website might be a dying shithole but even just the fact that there are lolicons here already makes it a last bastion of a counterculture that is already dead since a long time on the rest of the internet.
>>287629194>So what's yout point, do nothing and let the status quo fuck you over?You say this as if every counterculture movement from the boomers onwards were not perpetuated by older generations selling said counterculture to the youth. Fashion, music, movies, etc. were all made by older generations old enough to actual produce that stuff and younger generations just buy said shit. Zoomers have no counterculture because companies have realized that 1) They don't need to brand things as counterculture anymore in a hyper consumeristic society and 2) It's hard to be counterculture in a world where eating ass is normal and sissy hypno gets way more views than they should be>New generations could make a change too, if they wanted, but they don't.You can't make a change when voting relies on demographics and your boomer parents decided to have no children so they're voting demographic has been locked in for the rest of their lives. Also what's so impressive about "making a change" if you can only make a shitty change. Anyone can grab a sledgehammer and "make a change" by destroying a wall and leaving a pile of rubble
>>287629503the only zoomer "rebel" culture i saw were literally >>>/lgbt/ shit. i don't know about this "alpha" shit. i'm convinced "alpha" is shit definition that shouldn't exist YET.>GenX= 1970s-born to early-80s.>GenY=1990s-2000s.>zoomzoom=late 2000s to 2020.the "millenial" label was a nonsense term that was /is used on anyone born from 1980s to 2000s.it mixed up 3 generations to form a new group to shit on. don't make any fucking sense.>>287629479also some blogs only provide subtitle files, and expected you to find your own raws. those blogs got hit by lawfare too.
>>287629542>If they aren't obsessed over twitter politics like younowhere did I say anything about this shit you're mindbroken over these generational feuds. I was merely observing how generations perceive the others overtime
There was a sea change in how the Internet was used and perceived by the masses in 2013. By then you know you weren't going to find anything decent on large websites. Nowadays I hunker down in my chatrooms and other websites and explore the internet once in a blue moon. I go to large sites like 4chan every once in a while to check up on things. Threads like this make me glad I have my own spaces and am not part of the larger whatever is going on.>>287629558>I found not a single exception to this.You didn't look hard enough or you're not built for being into subcultures. Every day some random shitty web cartoon or internet game spawns a subculture; those are mostly reserved for little children using their mommys' smartphones to make flipaclip animaitions, but that's for a different thread.>there are lolicons hereThere are lolicons EVERYWHERE. How did you have a hard time finding a group that you liked?>last bastion of a counterculturehow is being a lolicon a counterculture? What are you on about?
>>287628394It's sour grapes, everyone is aware that any money they make- even if it's what used to be a fuck-you endless amount of money like several millions, can also lose it in the blink of an eye because of how ridiculous the playing field has been tilted in favor of people who don't even treat money as an object but as a natural law of the universe. People who routinely go through a million dollars in a day and never worry about going bankrupt as a phone call to some friends will restock them in the blink of an eye. Those kinds of people are relentlessly bitter about effectively not making it, and thus feel it is their duty to stomp on "The poors" so they aren't mistaken for being in the same boat as everybody else. The same thing is happening with mass surveillance, and once you notice this, you can't help but not notice it. Usually done by the same group of doomed people.
>>287629696>panopticon gazes at someone elseThat isn't how panopticons work
>>287629558To be fair this place is considered normalfag hell compared to most altchans. Every place you go is just a spectrum of "Normalfag" to "Counterculture" and 4chan has been sliding into normalfag territory for the last 20 years since chanology, some would argue since /l/ was deleted .
>>287629640cum to think of it, Gen X and Y didn't make sense either. Gen X should be 1970s to whole of 1980s. about 20 yrs. the first 20 years, your childhood and your teens should be your most important formative years.Gen Y had 1980s thrown into depending on who you asked.
>>287629719It should probably say 'oppresses' since it's gazing at everyone at all times, preparing for the day it has to use its endless lists of grudges to destroy someone for petty sleights.
>>287629723>some would argue since /l/ was deleted .loli should cum back. and /pol/ should go back to being /ntr/.make it happen, grapeape. /ntr/ is powerful.
>>287629723>altchansaW1nLmhleXVyaS5uZXQvbG91bmdl and bW9vdHhpLmNv are pretty good as long as you don't shit up the place with whining>>>/wsg/6132346
>>287629671Holy irony. You're the one who even brought up generational feuds and generalizations of them over memes you don't like. Don't say things if you don't want people to reply to things you said.>I was merely observing how generations perceive the others overtimeHow does it feel to lack self-awareness like that? "I don't do general feuds; I merely observe generations perceiving each other (by complaining about a generation no less)"
Litmus test everyone. Do well
>>287624831>share an anime I got off BakaBT>get banned for it
Lately pretty much every episode I download has a little stutter in it somewhereIs it a problem with my drive getting old?
>>287630092>>>/g/ plsprobably a vsync problem. that or a bad rip.
>>287629671There's a difference between observing how a group of people act and that anon screeching "Go back to twitter you mindbroken TDS zoomie!" as if that's some retort which discredits what I said. Is it not an observable fact that generations often look at the next generation hoping they amend their mishaps, only to get angry when that's not the case? When I talk in generalizations I don't assume that EVERY person in a group acts that way, just enough for it to be the norm or whatever
>>287630141wrong reply I meant to reply to >>287629956
>>287620135zoomers don't understand how big limewire et al was
>>287630092>>287630128No probably a problem with cpu or gpu or the media stack or player you use, will need more details to help.
Unless everybody's doing what I think they're doing, all of you are massive hypocrites for saying that "normalfags use x and y for convenience" when you continue to use a site with literal israeli spyware on it.
>>287630283I don't use 4chan for the convenience I use it to invite the IDF into my local files
>>287611958>I got paid to shill slop, the post
>>287619304If I didn't like a show after watching, I just delete it from my drive. If I liked it enough, I burn it to a BD before deleting. If I liked it a lot, I burn it to a BD and buy merch straight from Japan to support the creators.Space was never a problem and still isn't, even with current memory prices.
>>287629313>only for shit like "67" to be their first meme breakthrough.Yeah, because the kids who like that meme are themselves 6-7. I don't get 4chan's weird obsession with hating younger people. Is it just a LARP to feel more mature?
>>287624496Did somebody guide YOU to torrenting? No, someone just told you to fuck off and you went against what he said and figured shit out on your own. If they can't do even something as basic as that, then no amount of guidance less than "full handholding with 24/7 lifetime support hotline" is going to be enough.
>>287629313Older memes are just as retarded, what's your point?
>>287630092recheck your downloads m8
>>287631935The problem is that once you have a more convenient (or perceived as such) alternative you will not ever be in the position where you have to learn.We failed new generations because we were not able to comunicate to them why using torrents and controlling your local files is a goo things that is worth the extra effort.Corporations take advantage of this, they offer convenience "for free" but in fact you have to sell your soul to them, but this is something you will only realize years later.To be fair even older generations are not immune from this dark pattern, for example all millennials fell for this when Google was shilling Gmail and now they defacto control email.It's just that new generations are hit but so many of these dark patterns that they don't have a chance, we were supposed to warn them and guide them, which is different than "holding their hand".
>>287629313there's nothing inherently bad about 67. It was annoying but every joke you aren't in on is annoying.
>>287632252What I was getting at is that every generation looks at the next all hopeful like "well the next guys are going to fix it with their rebellious phase" only for said newer generation to act in different ways which gets the older generation angry. I wasn't trying to argue whether one generation was better than the other or worse. I've just seen it happen to two generations now.
>>287629268>How do you think the vast majority of people got anime circa 2003They bought it, anon. On VHS and then on DVD. 90% of normies, then and today, wound't even know what torrenting is if you bring it up in person.Go outside, faggot.
>>287629268>>287632736>How do you think the vast majority of people got anime circa 2003Also, as an addendum. I was around in 2003. I knew what torrenting was, and I STILL got the majority of my anime buy purchasing it. Internet speeds were shit slow back in the day. Too often would I be 2 or 3 days into a download, and the torrent would just fucking die.
>>287632444But what if that caused them to have a rebellious phase and go against our warnings?
>>287631935>Did somebody guide YOU to torrenting?way back in the day, yeah. There are less guides online now on how to download a torrent client, what a DHT is, why a port needs to be open, why you should encrypt your headers, etc. than there were when I started.When I started, DDL was still extremely popular and the way most people got anime was going on IRC channels and finding bots. Those bots, in an attempt to lessen the load, had a complete guide to downloading azureus (later utorrent) and configuring it to use with TokyoTosho. It was not handholdy, I was expected to know a few technical things, but it wasn't "New here? Why don't you invent your own internet?" That faggots think that lurk moar or spoonfeeding was made to prevent. There was a genuine culture of helping people who were trying to learn instead of just telling everyone to fuck off and being surprised when important pirate infrastructure fails because one of the six oldniggers who had been gatekeeping the hobby for decades died of a heart attack in his nursing home and all of the kids would rather just beg mom to buy the show from crunchyroll than beg your bitter elderly ass to find out what a distributed hash table is.
>>287632444>The problem is that once you have a more convenient (or perceived as such) alternative you will not ever be in the position where you have to learn.It wouldn't be considered 'more convenient' if we got the stick out of our ass about streaming or taught people how to use bittorrent on their phones. I taught my nephew how to use tosho, what has anyone else done to help the next generation of freebooters?
streaming is literally better in general
>>287634205Streaming is only better for seasonal anime that you're not going to keep. If you want to check out the slop, streaming makes more sense. If you want to keep a genuine classic to use on anything bigger than a laptop screen than it makes no sense to not pirate. Even buying it doesn't give you as good or as convenient quality with how shit these streaming services are, now.
>>287629313Unfair comparison, Gen Alpha has it WAY HARDER than us, I would argue they're the first generation in a century to have literally nothing to look forward to. There is not going to be some breakout technology that they can build their identity around like we had with the internet, our fathers had with computers, their fathers had with electronics, or our grandfathers had with mechanics. It's just going to be an endless panopticon of slavery forever.
>>287629199You will obviously understand what I mean from context
>>287634091>>287634175I though about writing guides about torrenting and about other tech-things related to personal freedom, although I wonder if young people would ever read them, would they even read blog posts and discuss in forums? I'm not going to do it in tiktok format or start a discord.>use bittorrent on their phonesSee the problem with that is that phones are incompatible with the torrent model, even if you can somehow open ports and all of that, you won't be able to properly seed because for most times you will not even be connected to wi-fi and you wouldn't do it on mobile data, furthermore phone operating systems are actively hostile towards filesystems and smartphones don't have much storage available anyway, peer-to-peer sharing needs stable internet and lot of storage, it's designed for home personal computers and servers.I'd love to help them don't get me wrong but it's hard when the way they "compute" is so different and incompatible.>>287634205Said noone ever.
>>287634354>would they even read blog posts and discuss in forums? They would if it was a reddit post, sadly. MOst young people still use search engines by typing their question and 'reddit' at the end because AI has destroyed search results for everybody. They would probably also read a twitter thread. I think this is another problem in that by gatekeeping everyone younger than 30 out of the hobby, none of us are in-tune with gen Alpha or even zoomers to know how they communicate or what sites they use. Almost all of my younger relatives have zero socials, they scroll logged out on tiktok and youtube and just never talk to anyone online.
>>287632392I've gotten into the habit of doing that before I watch anythingAlso some stuff just gets erased, I was going through some past seasons amd was finding episodes with a size of 0 bytes
I’m just never sure if seeding right, like if I close laptop or eventually delete the file does it turn into leaching?
>>287635718eventually it turns into compost and you get fresh tomatoes
>>287635718Basically for seeding you need:the computer must be runningthe computer must be connected to the internetthe torrent client must be runningthe torrent must be in seeding mode (after it finishes downloading it will be in seeding mode automagically)the files must exist in your computer (and they must be in the same directory so don't move them, you may symlink them if you want)>does it turn into leachingYou leeching when you don't have the files (or chunks of files to be precide) yet because you're downloading them basically leeching is another word for downloading, when you have the files and you're sharing you're seeding basically seeding is another work for sharing.Note that you can also have a portion of the files, most torrent clients let you select which files you want to specifically leech/seed.So say that you add the Touhou Project All-In-One Pack torrent from nyaa but you only care about touhou 6, 7 and 8 then you can also just do those and ignore the rest.
>>287635718If you're downloading without uploading, you're leechingIf you're uploading without downloading, you're seedingIf you're uploading and downloading, you're peeringIf you're closing, deleting, or stopping a torrent the moment you have the file, you're sucking If you're getting your download speeds throttled from sucking, you're chokingIf you're telling a janitor to kill himself, you're sneeding.
>>287636173Chocking on anon's chunks... slurping anon's seed...
>>287601704I miss megaupload era with rapidshare and lite release.
>>287636333Same, but those eras are long gone. We get streaming services hiding all of their downloads behind CDNs or we get torrents. Did not know how good we had it with rapidshare.
>>287636333I do remember that era, although I was already using torrents I remember this anime sharing forum in my cunt, it was really comfy, then police raided it and it was over, RIP.
>>287605203Tranime is normalGOD territory now
>>287636756You have to go back.
>>287601704People are getting dumber, yes.
'kura on the 'logue
I'm just upset that xdcc shares on irc have dropped off again. Some big bots have gone (even if a big loss was subsplease cr slop).
>>287634205You are a normalfag that needs to go back
>>287638616Biggest loss of the recent couple years was Ghost and AEOG disappearing taking down their entire archives. None of their ~2000 BD rips are on public trackers and very few are on private.
>>287601704Normalfags have never heard of torrenting before and it scares them.It's never been a very normal thing, and we should leave it that way.
>>287638682Yeah. That was rough.
>>287638688BY ME
>>287604875>gatekeep so hard that nobody under the age of 30 knows how to do somethingmission accomplished, good job everyone.
>whenever i download my anime>downloadsuch a retarded boomer way of looking at itjust because it is saved in a file on your disk in your autism folder (or even, just in a folder that is not a browser cache) doesn't mean anything magical has happenedeven streaming naruto shippuden at 240p in ethernet explorer is still "downloading", it's literally transfering bytes across the wire into your computerdon't act like you are some misunderstood genius snowflake above the normalfagsand dont reply to me before you buy physical copies and upload to your computer from the media storage devicefaggot
>>287636756grim
>>287638996>akshually streaming is EXACTLY the same thing as saving files permanently because you download both of themok retard
>>287640605why did you respond to the worst bait in the world?
>>287640605It is. In streaming, what happens is that a torrentGOD shares his torrents by putting the torrents on a stream.I go to stream site and enjoy the torrents. Ofc the torrents are on a stream for easy viewing.If site site dies, all this torrent master needs is to send the files to somebody else for instance by torrenting them. That means another torrentGOD can make a new streaming site. This torrentgod puts his own torrents in the streaming site.
>>287604875Checkmate, bitch, I'm 21.
>>287601704When it comes to streaming and letting physyical media die, people just love to be plugged up their own asses and just go with the flow to whatever dystopian change happens just cause they have the mantra of ''Dont matter how Bad, You Get used to it'', but at the end, it doesnt matter that you get used to it, it is bad, it was bad, and it will always be BAD.These people have no self-respect.
>>287622726>without a rebellious phase in a long, long timeZoomers have one you just get banned for it.What am I supposed to do, go out in public with a I love Hitler shirt and get blacklisted from everything by HR harpies and kikes? There is counter culture for Zoomers, they just get punished for expressing it at all.
>>287641321>There is counter culture for Zoomers, they just get punished for expressing it at all.And whose fault is that?
>>287641578A lot of different people, I don't want to derail into /pol/ though.
>>287629268>circa 2003Youtube was a wild west back in 2003. I remember watching most of naruto subbed there.
>>287641784YouTube wasn't a thing until 2005 fucking retard chimp monkey zoomer ape
>>287641784Youtube was never the same after the 1969 drama. You millennials don't know what you missed.
>>287641800Really? I thought I watched it in junior high but maybe it was during high school. I honestly stopped counting the years these days. Not worth keeping track of.
>>287601704Stop being poor and just buy the CR sub.
>>287634091>>287634175The problem is that younger generations can't even fucking read anymore, so the how-to guides of old would be wasted on them. Good luck teaching them how to torrent in the time limit of a TikTok video with loud music, loud noises, and Subway Surfers in the corner, and expecting them to retain any of it. Millennials are going to be the last tech-literate generation.
the guide 1. open qbittorrent 2. open magnet site 3. have computer
>>287641868You have to be 18 to post here.
>>287642986I remember when I started trying to use bittorrent in the early 00s that I just didn't understand the concept of downloading a torrent file and then using that to download the actual files. From what I remember I thought the torrent file was the final file I wanted. There's a lot more information about it now, or at the very least I wasn't as competent at using the internet and finding the information that was available.
I've stopped torrenting and subscribed to abema.tv instead. Still download via yt-dlp.
>>287641321All countercultures that haven't been absorbed into the mainstream culture and commodified are suppressed. That's the entire point of a counterculture. Suck it up.
>>287643768I have been "sucking it up", grandpa.Just saying that the fact that you don't even know the situation shows how out of touch you are
>>287601704Everything is dying and people refuse to fight and defend ithttps://x.com/i/status/2046881196492124189
>>287644031*clicks link*>hola mi amigos i eat burrito y taco ese
>>287638688
>>287638688My Sakura onahole.>>287645019My backup Sakura onahole.
>>287631804>Is it just a LARP to feel more mature?Some of it probably, but 4chan's userbase also keeps getting older. Do boomers meme about avocado toast and clicking the book to feel more mature? I think it's the opposite, they feel old and out of touch and bitter about it.
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