>Gundam is one of the most popular anime franchises of all time>none of the characters are JapaneseCurious
Are you under the impression that if you read a book you'll explode?
What the fuck are you talking about? Tons of Gundam characters are Japanese.
>>287634180The character named Ryu isn't Japanese?
>>287634180I bet there are a few Japanese women out there named Kamille
>>287634180Superman is the most American character and he's not even human.
>>287634180It's the toys that are popular, not the anime
>>287634180>Not a single Japanese character in Dragon Ball, One Piece, Naruto...Interesting!
>>287634180Why has bait gotten so retarded?
>>287634180... I feel like I'd be insulting my own intelligence by listing off all the Gundam characters with Japanese names.
I don't know how you could possibly come to this conclusion considering even 0079 has a dude named Hayato Kobayashi
>>287634180Not quite related, but does anyone know enough about Gundam or even have a Japanese perspective to explain why the executives etc. allegedly hated "Amuro Ray" as the MC's name in 0079? I just started watching it and I've seen that mentioned in interviews etc. by Tomino, but also not explaining exactly why they hated the name so much (probably because the interviews are originally in Japanese and so I guess whatever's weird about the name would be self-explanatory to a Japanese audience).Allegedly the goal of the name was to1. Sound like a "foreigner"2. Not sound like a stereotypical anime hero namebut from my perspective as an English speaker the name not only sounds pretty cool but also sounds kinda Japanese enough. Especially next to how weird many other characters' names from the show/series are. So I'm just really wondering what about it seemingly didn't work for native Japanese speakers
>>287634180Wasn't Amuro half Canadian (basically a snow bong) and half Japanese? In Origin when his ID is being checked it says his native language is Japanese however his mother was from Canada. I could vastly be misremembering shit so anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
>>287639796Compare to names like Kabuto Kouji, Nagare Ryouma, Tsurugi Tetsuya, Aoi Hyouma, Gou Kenichi, Ryuuzaki Kazuya.
Amuro's an ethnically Japanese canadian
I think we should murder all newtypes
>>287639796Amuro is hated because he was autistic and needed to be guided by Fraw, Bright, leaving the others to do the grunt work. He doesn't become defined until CCA where he pretty much decimates everyone. >>287640181Ethnicity has nothing to do with it. Koji and Tesuya will get it not the Mazinger and fight Dr. Hell. Even Ryoma will get into space and fight monsters. Amuro doesn't become a person and he becomes violent schizo who needs Fraw.
>>287634180You're not serious, are you?
>>287639890He's a Mexican Canadian with a Japanese name
>>287634926It's not something like star wars that people only like because of the action figures and barebone cardboard characters. characters. Gundam is a character drama first and foremost with a background flash of mech battles. "Gundam" could be a tricycle with jetboosters on it.
>>287640492>He doesn't become defined until CCA where he pretty much decimates everyone.But he's demolishing everyone by the end of the original anime, then he's conflicted about getting back into the gundam in zeta, by CCA he has simply accepted that he likes to kill people.
>>287634746Checks out desu
>>287639890Everyone in UC (at least the Tomino entries, and a lot of AU's too) is supposed to be a turbo-mixed mutt with heritage from at least 3 different continents, to show how the emigration of most of the population to space colonies far away from their original homelands and living in close proximity to each other in the cramped Sides has broken down old national and ethnic identities and created new space based ones. The protagonist usually still has at least a smidge of Japanese in him somewhere to let the kids at home go "He's just like me!".
>>287634180>hayato kobayashi>mirai yashimai would say how dare you forget them but besides mirai supple slampig thighs thats actually kinda based
>>287634926Just not true at all.
>>287639890 Yeah, you're remembering it mostly right. In The Origin and some supplementary materials he's explicitly said to be born in Canada to Tem Ray and Kamaria Ray, with his mom being a Canadian of Japanese descent. So he's basically diaspora Japanese, which is why the name sounds kind of “off” compared to the super robo protag names anon listed earlier.Tomino wanted something that didn’t scream hot‑blooded super robot hero. “Amuro Ray” sounds soft and vaguely foreign in Japanese, especially next to names like Kabuto Kouji. Execs were probably expecting something more traditionally masculine and kanji-coded. Instead they got some dorky kid with a space immigrant name who spends half the show angsting and reading manuals.Which, ironically, is what makes it work.
>>287642689>by CCA he has simply accepted that he likes to kill people.Unlike Kamille and Judau, he has genuinely nothing besides war and the Gundam. It's pretty tragic that, at the end of his life, the only person he could ever come to an understanding was the genocidal maniac with mommy issues
In the world of Gundam, whether you live on Earth or ins space matters more than specifics of nationality or ethnicity.
>>287643198Kamille has the right-mind to choose stay with his own Fraw Bow
>>287643275If the Bandai execs in the 80s weren't so adamantly against him being a family man, he would have at least left Beltrochika a single mother
>>287642928>mirai supple slampig thighsI wonder if she ever squeezed Bright's head with them.
>>287634310do you mean Jose?>>287634746heh. just like the french olimpic team>>287642928>both are cucksyou arent helping anon
>>287643275When you think about it Fa only ended up with him because every other woman Kamille ever met was dead besides Mirai and Beltrochika.
>>287642928>>hayato kobayashiOne picture. 1000 words.
Those who say Domon Kasshu is not a japanese MC of a Gundam series...
>>287639796>the executives etc. allegedly hated "Amuro Ray" as the MC's name in 0079citation needed.
>>287634746Not anymore. Superman renounced his American citizenship because of America's foreign policy and the gulf war. I think it was back in 2011 or something. I remember right wingers losing their minds over it.
>>287645373I just got into Gundam so I don't have the original source on hand and don't know where I'd go about finding it easily, plus it's possible it's just some bullshit a fan made up and repeated that now people are taking as truth. I'm not presenting myself as an authority since this claim is something I've seen said by others, and since I'm too gaijin to get exactly why they'd hate the name in the first place, it's the reason I made that post asking for more info.
>>287645532They don't hate his name, Amuro is one of the most popular character in the franchise and consistently ranks in the top 10 polls.
>>287645692I wasn't saying people feel that now about him or his name, I'm saying that supposedly way back when the original series was still in production and hadn't aired yet, some of the people above Tomino expressed dislike/reluctance about Amuro's name specifically and suggested he change it. Possibly with an implication of it not sounding Japanese or marketable enough for the MC of the seriesAgain, not sure myself how true it actually is. Trying to look for more info just now revealed that at least Tomino at the time didn't think it was a real name (from my dumb foreigner perspective it sounds kind of pseudo-Japanese though), which maybe explains why some might not have liked it.
>>287634180I'm trying to watch 0079, but it's just so boring. Sayla is cute tho. I hope Amuro fugs her instead of his osananajimi
>>287642689>by CCA he has simply accepted that he likes to kill people.What? Amuro has never admitted he likes to kill people, the trauma from the One Year War wracked him with guilt and inaction for the 7 years after it, until the Gryps Conflict. What he accepted is that he's a soldier, he's good at it, and he's both a damn fine mobile suit pilot and it's where he belongs. And despite all that he still has his morals and refuses to renege on them; fighting for what he believes is right, and making sure the Federation stays virtuous.
>>287645802Yasuhiko actually based his design on Jules Renard's Poil de Carotte, a gloomy redheaded boy from an unloved family who survives through wit
>>287646386hi chilchuck
>>287646042>making sure the Federation stays virtuousLol
>>287643234Unless you're Algerian.
>>287645942>it's just so boringShit taste>I hope Amuro fugs herlol
>>287634180They are Japanese
>>287643275Poor Fa. She got robbed. >muh custom settingsStill mad.
>>287645942LolLMAO even[/spoiler]You should read the novels[/spoiler]
