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I feel scammed.
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still looks good tho? it's basically 2000s amy lee with/without makeup
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>>287634768
I love flat face
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Top looks cuter though, would impregnate
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I don't know what I was expecting, but it wasn't that she's literally just a mall goth who gets away with dressing up like that because her daddy is the king or something
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Amy Lee my beloved.
I want to go back, bros...
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>>287636239
>it wasn't that she's literally just a mall goth who gets away with dressing up like that because her daddy is the king or something
What were you expecting then?
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>>287637532
I don't know, I just said
Maybe a cyber angel like Lain? But Lain already existed
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>>287634768
MY GOD MY TOURNIQUET
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Cute robot daughter.
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>>287636104
>Top looks cuter though
On opposite day.
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>WAKE ME UP
WAKE ME UP INSIDE
>I CAN'T WAKE UP
WAKE ME UP INSIDE
>SAVE ME
CALL MY NAME AND SAVE ME FROM THE DARK
>WAKE ME UP
BID MY BLOOD TO RUN
>I CAN'T WAKE UP
BEFORE I COME UNDONE
>SAVE ME
SAVE ME FROM THE NOTHING I'VE BECOME
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>>287639725
COME AND SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>287634768
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i have completely forgotten about the story of this anime
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>>287639832
for me, it's the Radiohead ED that gives me the nostalgia
I learned how to play that on the guitar to get a gf because all the artsy scene girls were into that song really bad and I wanted a scene gf
(I never scored in the end)
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>>287634768
She looks good, but they cut corners in some scenes and even episodes
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>>287639942
It's pretty vague, and you can lose the thread of the narrative if you miss the details
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>>287634768
I hate this show. I feel like someone specifically made something for me but halfway through decided to piss in my face instead. For every one thing I like about it theres another that I loathe
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Why is eye shadow so seggsy
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>>287639942
Don't worry, the anime forgets it's supposed to have one a lot of the time too and then needs to infodump in the most awkward way possible.
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>>287639942
I don't either I remember vaguely something about humans leaving earth and are now coming back at the end or something. Also they say raison d'être a lot and there was a game show were they just info dumped stuff randomly but it was funny so I was cool with it. Also there something special about the dude side kick that made him string or something.
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>>287640857
It was made for me, simple as. From the neo-renaissance aesthetic, Nietzschean-Freudian allusion to episodic parables about "what demigods would do"
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thought this show was dogshit at the time it aired but compared to the modern day slop that spams the airwaves it's 10/10
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>>287639942
Planet becomes inhabitable, humans fled to space, they created some demigods (Proxies) to take care of the planet, the Proxies created the domes and the artificially engineered people. When the planet recovers, the Proxies will die, the people in the domes will die out since they can't reproduce, and the humans will return to Earth and find ready cities to live in, the Domes.
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>>287634768
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>>287639942
it's dragon ball Z with extra steps
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I know there's a follow up novel to the show. Was it ever translated? Did anyone here ever read it?
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>>287641226
Novel? I remember there was a spin-off oneshot manga
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HA HA I CAN NOW POST THIS PIC I SAVED BACK IN 2007
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>>287641793
damn thats old
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>>287641793
Thanks for the pic from 2007
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>>287640886
It makes even boys look pretty and sexy.
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>>287641052
This. Ergo Proxy got retroactively better in recent years. I wouldn't call it dogshit but it was the worst of all of the psychological/philosophical anime and there were lots of them back then. But now that they're a thing of the past and we'll never get them again, even the worst of them feels eons better than all the modern day slop.
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>>287641793
Fucking kek I somehow remember
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>>287641793
>millennial humour
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>>287634768
Gothic cinema
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It's not a masterpiece, but it isn't some low brow retard journey either. There are some good introspective psychological episodes, almost always revolving around questions of the self and how humans struggle in life devoid of meaning. I didn't watch it for the action, and some episodes drag, but if you're paying attention there is a genuinely interesting story being told. Probably needed a little more time in the oven, or a few more episodes to transition the plot better, but at least it tried to be thunk provoking, which is more than I can say for the vast majority of anime and semitic western cartoons.

And if you didn't enjoy Iggy calling Rial a bitch multiple times, I don't know what to tell you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmuK2s-5Dwk
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>>287644051
Imagine typing all this shit and think you look smart
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>>287644332
Take your meds.
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>>287641793
Damn, I was gonna do this. But it's maybe better to know someone else immediately thought of it too. We're both still here, anon.
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>>287639725
I prefer her more recent "director's cut" version.
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>>287644051
hmm, he calls her "incomplete"
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>character loses all control and transforms into a crying demon with devil wings
Yup it's kino time
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>>287644051
Yeah, after recently watching it i dont see the where the pretentious accusations come from, the main plot is straightforward despite the awkward delivery and whenever they touch on more "deep" subjects they have a good enough execution of the idea they put on screen.

Hell the barman show i watched immediately after was way more up its own ass in the way the deify the profession in the first episode.

>>287645316
Weirdly common trope depsite how specific it is, guess nip creators really like deivlman.
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>>287641189
Damn, that's fucking gay.
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>>287641050
same bro, everything in this show really worked for me
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>>287640616
remind me of witch hunter robin, the fem MC looks like a hottie but the show makes her look like she has a genuine down syndrome
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>>287642782
I've seened
>ergo proxy
>texhnolyze
>lain
>haibane renmei
>despera
What else should I watch? Think lain is objectively the best of these when looking at the whole package, but I resonated more with haibane because I'm a depressionfag.
Needy Girl Overdose is basically zoomerlain at the moment. It's quite good.
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>>287646384
>What else should I watch?
Kino no Tabi
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>>287646475
Got it, I'll put it high up on my backlog so I get to it sooner rather than later
Thanks
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>>287643832
This is basically what white women in 2026 want. Ergo Proxy was so much ahead of its time.
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>>287646384
Kurozuka
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>>287641793
I hoped that someone would post this. Also 19 fucking years, send help
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>>287643832
hot
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>>287638055
post that webm
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>>287646384
Boku no Pico.
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>Started watching Ergo Proxy for rel
>Stayed for Vincent and Pino kino
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>>287645346
Consider this though.
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Kino Proxy
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>>287639994
Damn anon I feel you.
I did the exact same and actually scored, better luck next time kiddo
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>>287634768
How did the artists fuck up her nose so badly?
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>>287634768
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>>287649496
You're just too used to nowadays when anime noses are a single dot
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>>287649578
lol
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>>287649496
Is this better? I think her face is just ugly
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>>287649800
This might be closer to how it would look, but it's still hilarious lmao
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>>287643832
Rape doko?
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>>287639942
All i remember that the last episode was a trivia shitpost
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>>287649570
Would fuck with make-up on.
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>>287634768
Reminds me of that witch girl that sometimes gets a storytime here.
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>>287650023
It was episode 15 ackshually.
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>>287646384
Evangelion, Ghost in the Shell movie + SAC, Utena, Penguindrum, Perfect Blue, Millennium Actress, Paranoia Agent, Paprika, Boogiepop Phantom, Dennou Coil, Ghost Hound, Casshern Sins, Digimon Tamers, Shinsekai yori, Alien 9, Wolf's Rain, Gunslinger Girl, .hack//Sign, FLCL, Key the Metal Idol, Kino's Journey, Kara no Kyoukai, Tatami Galaxy, Kaiba, Mind Game

Anything you haven't watched from these yet. You won't like all of them but some will hit.
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>>287641189
Japan has never felt as close to the west as it did during the early 2000s
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>>287651922
The West decided to kill itself in the late 00s-early 10s, nobody wants to be close to this gay shit
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>>287652073
Yeah wish it killed me along with it.
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The worst thing about Ergo Proxy by far is making you think Re-l is going to be the protagonist for the show to took a total 180 turn in ep3 to wank Vincent as the hero until the very end.
I cannot fathom how much the side plot about Iggy is just tossed aside in the worst piece of garbage conclusion ever meanwhile the man/machine relationship is clearly set up as a major part of the anime at the start.
I don't get why the fuck Manglobe had kino scifi shit in their hands and just forgot about it to focus on fantasy shit with muh pseud philosophical rambling with Proxys.
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>>287652421
Brainlet take. The philosophy pseud ramblings is implied in the name of the series with Ergo. Cogito Ergo from Descartes
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ONE, 1, UNO, a single good episode that is 10 out of 10. If the entire thing had had this tone, it would have been a bona fide classic.
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>>287646384
>>despera
Don't forget Blue Uru
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>>287652600
And what the bioengineered humans with superpowers who can fly and create fire as to do with whatever shit you just typed.
Instead of being interesting scifi reflection a la GITS inspired by K dick, Asimov and Neuromancer we got typical japanese metaphysical reflection with barely anything to say around the show's actual worldbuilding.
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I watched a lot of Ergo Proxy when it came out but I never watched the last couple of episodes. Did Ergo Proxy his slutty goth gf and adopt robot loli or did something vague and tragic happen?
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What was great about Re-l is how Iggy was right about her. She acts competent, in control, wise, but she's actually just the product of nepotism and isn't as remotely smart or capable as she likes to act. But she has actual character development too.
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>>287653270
I think I dropped Ergo Proxy somewhere around episode 10 because they'd just spent the past 5 episodes in some barren wasteland with nothing but dirt and rocks,
was not expecting the cool aesthetic from the intro episodes to turn into that. That was quite a few years ago maybe I should pick it back up where I left off, that handful of episodes made me extremely bored at the time but enough time has passed
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>>287653396
The entire planet is a wasteland. You'll only see appealing scenery when they're inside a dome. But there are worse offenders of that like Casshern and Trigun. My fucking eyes watching these two...
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>>287653396
to me Ergo Proxy felt like 2 interesting stories squished together to make a less interesting product.
You have the dystopian cyberpunk cool aesthetic in the beginning and end. And then you have the wandering, episodic, philosophical musings of the middle.
Give it a rewatch from the beginning if you decide to. I did after dropping and i think it helped.
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>>287642782
I still miss that era of Japanese anime and vidya. I felt it struck a great balance between the strengths of their respective mediums while asking very thought-provoking questions (many of which are basically unanswerable but important to keep in mind) about how to live life and what it means to be human in the first place.

While I still think modern anime is better than anything coming out from the West by a longshot, it's pretty formulaic romcom or isekai or shounen bottom of the barrel garbage that will be forgotten quickly.

I think a lot of the reason that many shows from the 2000s like Fullmetal Alchemist (and Brotherhood), GiTS SAC, Witch Hunter Robin, Paranoia Agent, Kino's Journey and even Gurren Lagann to an extent are remembered so fondly was because they tried to be more than seasonal animes and really did try to be evangelists of a life philosophy which many people hold thanks to these shows and especially their creators (and a lot of their art too in all honestly. It was the last era where traditional media was used and the mix of digital and traditional drawing media gives a lot of these shows a distinct look on top of their unique art design), all without taking themselves too seriously and being good animes in their own right. I think it's possible we'll get them back in the future, but it won't be overnight. It'll be something that happens in the next couple decades or so.
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>>287643832
Why did Ergo Proxy rape Re-l?
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>>287655369
She didn't resist
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>>287649570
the hair is doing all the heavy lifting
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>>287646384
Wolf's Rain.
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>>287654578
>It'll be something that happens in the next couple decades or so.
I'm happy that it'll happen, but sad that I'll either be too old or dead when it happens again.
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>>287656534
I'm just glad it happened in the first place really. There's a lot of good anime and vidya from that era add a lot of good philosophical themes to last a decent while.
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>>287639942
Pino. The anime is about Pino.
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>>287642782
>but it was the worst of all of the psychological/philosophical anime and there were lots of them back then.
Gilgamesh was far worse
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>>287656520
2nd.
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>>287657695
I got like three or four episodes into that and just couldn't anymore.
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>>287657580
But I wanted a cute goth chick...
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>>287646384
I didn't understand most of Lain but I did feel very bad when she started crying because her family didn't recognize her
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>>287655369
She's his ex; he knows what she likes
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>>287649496
I believe they used some faceless 3d models for rendering outlines, so the quality strongly depends on the key animator of the episode
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beautiful BITCH
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>>287655369
It was self defense
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>>287647016
>>287653104
>>287656520
Shall be adding to the list
>>287651633
Shall be adding some of them to the list
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>>287660295
nah for everything before the comma.
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>>287637957
y god
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>>287644447
elaborate?
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>>287649374
>next time
low rise jeans, scene hair, and slightly underweight women are never coming back despite how much I pray for their return every day
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>>287663720
We have e-girls now.
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>>287636381
New song recently by the way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoNhLJKLAyQ
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>>287663720
You'd feel like shit if they did come back because you've outaged girls that would do that so you'd be stuck in a kek situation
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>>287639942
Humans won, that's all you need to remember
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>>287634768
Shut the fuck up you stupid fucking incel
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>>287664519
How many kilos of makeup do you apply queen?
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>>287660367
>moe witch
Fixed that for you anon

https://youtu.be/Z7l_hf3_ljU
I am honestly tired of feeling persecuted all my life
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>>287664423
but i unironically love sluts (not prudish) and used goods (sexually woke)
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>>287634768
Shut up she’s gorgeous.
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>>287655369
She's Monad
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I like the dub
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>>287642782
Nah the worst was psychopass.

This one and techxnolize were pure kino.
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>>287640886
bedroom eyes
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>>287640616
they did quite well with their low budget
make key scenes look good and cut in all the transitions
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>>287663615
There were several demos, and the last version they made a couple years ago goes back to the early demos.
The truth is that they are ashamed of that wigger rap at the middle, and now they pretend they were forced by the studio.
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>>287641182
>>287641202
Sounds more like Nier Replicant
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>>287644051
what episode drags you fkn golem !?
they are all at about the same pacing.
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>>287652421
you are an imbecile
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cinema
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>>287666340
it was from an era where those were passable. It helped with a lot of the esoteric psychobabble. for me at least
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>>287634768
its crazy how right Miyazaki was
we lost so much great aesthetic, design and plot ambition bcs the industry decided it is going to slave away for incels. no wonder isekai slop was able to become a "trend" or a "genre" under these grim conditions.
the only thing you can praise these days are production values.
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>>287666446
Psycho Pass is a zoomer anime, it's not part of the golden era. That hack Urobutcher was trying to imitate quality but it doesn't work that way.
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>>287666840
How dare you complain about the average weeb about current day industry when its clearly trying to appeal to normalfags!?
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>>287666840
>boogiepop phantom
>Wolf's Rain

Some other shows that have the similar aesthethic tho are not very deep or pretentious
>witch hunter robin (robin a cute)
>Gankutsuou
>speed grapher
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>>287666954
and how many of those exist today ?
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>>287666966
none i was just listing from that era
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>>287649800
deh
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>>287652690
suck a cocki.
-ophelia
-goodbye vincent
-final episode
all of them are kino.

and even the exposition episodes have memorable moments. be it the cave people, revelations about the city, Pinos progression or the Iggy subplot.
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>>287652690
This was the worst episode though.
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>>287667783
It was a great episode, the end of Riru's arc



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