Volume 52Cell Seven ReunionChapter 486: FistsStart: https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/274143504Previous thread:>>287677543
>>287697083ARIGATO, OUR LEADER!
B&W
>>287697239AAA ANO HI NO YUME
>>287697239AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>287697253Naruto, Sasuke just murdered your Hokage in cold blood.
Done!
>>287697196>>287697205>>287697215>>287697226>>287697239>>287697253>>287697263sasuke should've been a girl
>>287697122Naruto beginning of last chapter>i understand now >Naruto after speaking with sauce in the super gay faggot dimension>I get it...Naruto in the beginning of this chapter>Now it's all clear...WHEN THE FCK ARE U GONNA ACTUALLY GET IT NARDO
>>287697239KISHI YOU BITCHED OUT NIGGA HE SHOULD HAVE SAID BECAUSE I LOVE YOU
>>287697177damn zetsu sucks
>>287697239YOU ARE MY FRIENDAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHANO HI NO YUMEIMA DEMO MADA WASURETENAIN DESHOYOU'RE MY DREAM AA HAJIMATTA BAKKA KIMI NO ONE LONGEST WAYOH IMA TABIDATSU YO
>>287697263"not anytime soon but eventually in about another 200+ chapters. we got a whole shitty war to do first."
>>287697496Thanks sakon.
>>287697239Naruto's decision is gay, and also very wise.Painting a target to himself to protect the people, and give Sasuke something to focus on.
>>287697153>we’re leaving, Sasuke
>>287697135Who could "Madara" be? It's impossible to guess.
>>287697239I don’t remember anything that would warrant calling Nardo and Sauce’s relationship as a friendship.>he shared some bento with me when I was tied to a log>we ran some bullshit F-tier missions like running after stray pets and whatnot>I was envious of him being strong, skilled and cool>I got angry when I thought he got killed by that femboy>we spent some time in the Chuunin exam forest and I saved him from getting rekt by a huge snake and bantered with him>I saw him getting rekt by Itachi that one time>I fought him on a rooftop>I fought him again at the valley of the end>three years later, he tried to kill me when we met again
>>287697263Why can't they both fight Sasuke?
>>287697226Gay.
It's one of those moments in any story where the hero tries to reason/save with a psychopath who is willing to kill>You're only able to act all calm and reasonable with him, because the story didn't allow him to kill or main anyone close to youThis whole "You are my friend" speech would not happen if Sasuke really hurt Kakashi or Sakura.
>>287697111>Sasuke after clashing with BASEruto onceKekaroooooo!
Now this chapter could've been an email
>>287697189Foreshadowing Kisame survived?
>>287697239Honestly even if Naruto is a gay faggot this is a good page/line.
>>287697101Kakashi all this time could have ripped Sharinganless Sasuke head off with kamuijust sayin
>>287697189
Wtf is white zetsu even? Does it have a conscience? A soul? Or is he just an organic robot?
>>287697111Why is Sasuke surprised here? Didn't he already see Zetsu popping out of him when he was fighting Mei?
>>287698506This is why he went GIB ME ONIICHAN EYES ONEGAI right after this chapterfucking jobber
>>287698506Stop it. 5ks Sasuke stomps Sage Jiraiya and Naruto at the same time
>>287697135Danzo had Sasuke kill a wood clone of himself to make everyone believe he's dead and now he'll collect the rinnegan and use the upcoming war to weaken all of the great nations besides Konoha. Trvst the plan.
>>287697215this won't go anywhere btw
What would one measly chidori do against this?
>>287697239THIS SONG SUCKSPLEASE BE MY FRIEND YEAAAAAHHHHHFUCKING BE MY FRIEND YOU FAGGOT
>>287697263This whole exchange in a nutshell:
>>287698547He might be a decent match to base Jiraiya if he has all powerups and no blindness. Hopefully
>>287698361>t. retard who's gonna perpetuate the cycle of hatred and revenge
>>287697153>go home and restWhere is Sasuke's home now? Orochimaru's hideout? Why did Tobias just leave Sasuke stranded to go on foot to his "home"?
>>287698720He's the last Uchiha. The cycle ends with his death.
>>287697263One thing that really sucks about Naruto and Sasuke's relationship is that they're supposed to have this super important bond, but neither of them have any sort of important impact on the other. Like, does this meeting or the one from the Tenchi Bridge have any sort of actual impact on either of them? You could remove them both from the series and nothing would change. They don't learn anything new, and they don't change their perspective on the world in any meaningful way.
>>287698771>kill Sasuke >every village goes back to the status quo>someone eventually chimps out and the next ninja world war happens anyway, but it's a free for all>thousand new Amegakures and Pains and Sasukes, etc. are createdNaruto is a story for debilitated 12 year-olds, but even that seems to be too much for you
>>287697263Was there any way for this encounter to go that would've made you change your mind, Naruto? Like, if you saw Kakashi's mangled body on the floor and Sasuke raping Sakura's corpse when you arrived here, would you have still given him your "YOU AH MY FRIEND AAAHHHH" speech?
The new best Sakura ship on the block
>>287697135>I ought to collect the rinnegan before the war beginsTHEN WHY DIDN'T YOU TAKE NAGATO'S YOU DOUBLE UCHINIGGER?
>>287697153Does kakashi not still find it strange to think that "madara" has the same manganekogeko power he does?
>>287698881Killing Sasuke wouldn’t magically fix the system, but sparing him also depends on an unusually forgiving protagonist and very specific circumstances where Sasuke miraculously doesn't hurt anyone important for Naruto. It's not a repeatable solution. I would call this luck, that Naruto has the privilege of being able to preach to Sasuke without having to face his worst and depraved side.
>>287699119Obito is careful, methodical and patient. Taking the rinnegan and capturing all 9 tails 5-10 years ago would be to hasty.
>>287697253Naruto goes from awkwardly gay to making sense to yandere and gay again.
Do you still think an orphan can understand someone who lost his entire family?
>>287699149They don't think it's the same yet, it's shown later in the war
>>287697083>Another scene that did NOT happen in when Team 7 were together.
>>287697111>Zetsu was inside SasukeNarutobros...
>>287697135
>>287697239What the fuck is a friend? What does it mean when Naruto says it? How is Sasuke different from Gaara and other friends? Huh?
>>287699521
>>287697239What is that expression meant to convey?
>>287697263>>287697274>>287697484>>287697496Arigatou, OP!>>287697509Naruto is clearly the feminine one here.
I'm surprised this place hasn't made Naruto memes that are similar to the Psychoku shtposts>SUGEEEEE SASUKE DID YOU JUST NUKE KONOHA, KILL ALL OUR FRIENDS AND RAPED SAKURA??? I CANT WAIT TO FIGHT YOU AND BE YOUR FRIEND IN THE AFTERLIFE TEBAYO!!!!!!!
>>287697253>>287697263This kind of yandere Naruto is even scarier than the one who said he would break Sasuke's bones to prevent him from going away.
>>287698720You mean like Sasuke has been doing for a while?>>287698881Is that someone Sakura, Ino or Naruto?
>>287699696Holy shit sasuke actually cares about what Naruto is saying. Unlike me, who he sees as less than a bug.
>>287699696She's tired of this shit but Kishimoto won't retire her until she's pregnant.
>>287697263Sakura cried so much this arc, I guess water chakra nature really does influence that and the pissing
>>287699720I think Gasai Yuno edits hit closer to Naruto.
>>287699363Fuck no. Being called a smelly booger buttface on a swing is far worse than watching your entire family die by the hands of your older brother. Sasuke should apologize to nardo for inflicting needless psychic agony on his tortured soul.
>>287697083
>>287699854>than watching your entire family die by the hands of your older brotherActually, his parents were already dead by the time he arrived.
>>287699614>Jiraiya stayed with and trained Nagato, along with Yahiko and Konan, for three years during the Second Great Ninja WarThree years
>>287697253>>287697263This is actually pretty sad. Naruto saying that they'll at least be happy and get along once they die is a lot more emotional than most of the stuff we've seen so far.
>>287699696>I wish I wasn't an useless sack of nothing
>>287697263Maybe Naruto's words are starting to reach Sasuke just a little bit? His final words here were essentially a "n-no you" and he didn't seem quite sure of it
>>287699971>3 years watching over KonanLucky sage
>>287699953They were freshly killed when sauce showed up it's not a big difference
Reminder that the one responsible for Sasuke's hatred and current path is Itachi Uchiha himself. Imagine killing your own clan because some glowie told you it's the best outcome for the village. And he fucking went through it. He actually slaughtered 100 people and didn't try to resolve the tensions in any way. No, every single one of them (except his oni chan who didn't know anything) were in on the coup? Yea right. A man like Itachi, connected to a man like Danzo, together they could have resolved this conflict with little bloodshed. The blame lies equally on Itachi's shoulders.
>>287698956No moids allowed
>>287700164>except his oni chan who didn't know anythingonii chan means big brotherthe word you're looking for is ototo my retarded friend
>>287697135Was he concerned about Karin living because she's the only person besides him who could actually use the rinnegan?
>>287699696I like her expression after Sasuke tried to bust her heart out
>>287697078There was more than enough room in the previous thread
>>287700164No he was beautiful and perfect and a genius who knew everything in the world and I love him and his perfect cock and I wish I could birth his buttbabies to replace my dumb faggot kids who came out of a disgusting pussy!t. kishimoto
>>287697111sakura's legs
>>287700164>>287700679media literacy fail
>>287700604It's thoughtful to let other anons get to discuss the chapter later today since not everyone gets the chance to read and post about the chapter of the day in the first few hours
>>287697239YOU ARE MY FRIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEND
>>287698181this is why the anime was unintentionally funny. every time they tried to do a flashback sequence it was always the three same scenes because they barely even interacted with each other
>>287697101>>287697135>>287697205>>287697226>>287697239>>287697253>>287697263cutekura.
you need high iq to understand and love ss
>>287700896>NSFW x3>on a blue boardbad anon
>>287700164Kishimoto wrote Danzo in a way that made it clear through his actions he didn't care at all to reach peace with the Uchiha, no matter what he an other characters said. Itachi is still a retard and really should have stayed a villain
That was so hard to read Jesus Christ Nardo is a FAGGOT>>287697621This. I would have at least respected the manga more for taking a risk like that
canon ship don't like don't read there i said it!
>>287700762Nobody discusses the chapters
Goddamn, all the replies to the pages following the exact same rhythm. How can this dude do this every single day? It's just "witty" phrases, saying it sucks, and using caps lock. Just completely automated.
>>287697239Kishi really should've had 1 or 2 more arcs between the Land of Waves and the Chunnin exams to actually properly develop their "friendship".
This is probably my favorite post from this daily so far.
>>287701735Depends on what you consider "discussion" and also whether the chapter had anything decent to talk about
Why sasukejeet always bumps an almost archived thread(page 9) with non-topic discussion after anons fall asleep, but if there's lore/character discussion happening late anons have their questions unanswered? is this some kind of trolling i don't understand
>>287700896True
>>287697226>I'll take all your "hate" bro
>>287701735People have been scared away by dedicated schizos, you don't see people complaining about color versions/posting hours, it's just us.normal anons have a 2 hours window to discuss the chapter after it gets posted, then they leave to save sanity
>>287702042He's already full of Pain, so he's ready for the Hate.
For the longest time I didn't understand this line about being "worthy" >>287697263 but now I sort of get it. If Naruto wants to lead the village, then he has to build trust. Make it a place where people feel safe and won't just turn into supervillains one day. Resolve conflicts without strictly killing the enemy, like with Nagato. It's also why he adopted that kid in Bort.
i feel like almost every shipper here is a woman because why would a man care about relationships.
>>287701886He's not interested in the series beyond trying to make it look active on /a/ to compete with other shounen like Dragon Ball and One Piece. It's all artificial. He just cares about one day reviving his /dbs/ ripoff even though it died after 6 months and 4chan doesn't have enough users to support an entire general (not that they would want to since he burned every bridge threatening everyone, tried to shutdown and hijack threads he didn't like and outed himself as a legitimate creep who should probably be locked up).
>>287697239>>287697253>>287697263>we'll die together and spend our afterlife together forever YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!It does not get gayer than this.
>>287702067>dedicated schizosRemove the plural. It's only one.
>>287701735Nobody is interested in talking about the series knowing they're talking to the same guy multitasking and larping as different flavors of fans, but can easily see that they all talk alike. All other dailies on the board stay up for days while this is the only one thar will hit 400 to 500 posts and achieve in hours with only 1 day being its occasional limit.
>>287697263>>287697253>>287697239If you disregard the gay, which we can't because of the pacing, I can see what Naruto said can be reworked into something more nihilistic cool or something.>this world sucks, we are both cursed in different ways, so this can ONLY end if we fight and both die, or find a way to work this outBut yeah it's gay.
>>287697177Tobi you're strong enough to handle Naruto, Kakashi, and Jobkura fucking DO SOMETHING!
>>287697135>>287697153>>287697177Would you people or the ones that read Naruto at the time like me have liked if Tobi wasn't just a fake persona and he actually stayed the goofy but really powerful dumbass type character? Naruto always sucked with levity so the Tobi reveal kinda took away that chance of having a fun villain that wasn't just edgy and mysterious like all the others, I believe that's why people enjoyed characters like Kisame and Deidara since they took the time to laugh/have fun and not take everything sooo serious
>>287702351Keep Tobi goofy but serious when he needs to be.Make him truly a nobody. He's not Obito, or any secret character. He's just a man with a dream. No dramatic face reveal.
>>287698951This is Naruto anon. Not berserk
Jikage rising > Naruto storm
Reminder that Sasuke:>WILL accept Naruto and Sakura's love and affection (through force)>WILL loyaly work for the village that killed his family (without wage)>WILL marry Sakura and give her a child (so the child can marry Naruto's child and they can be legally related)>WILL raise Naruto's child more than his own>And he WILL like it!
>>287697239>>287697253>>287697263Kishimoto is absolutely baffling. His mind is completely warped. He obviously doesn't recognize women as human beings, which in and of itself is whatever, but then he completely doesn't understand male relationships. He doesn't understand male friendship, despite it being the center of his entire story, he seems to have confused it with homosexuality. Kishimoto is a fucking weirdo, he must have had some fucked up relationships in his life.
I love Sasuke.
>>287698712Jiraiya has too many tricks for Sasuke, he already showed Amaterasu is no trouble for him to deal with.
Just had sex with Sasuke's body
>>287700164Everything Itachi and Danzo did is Hiruzen's fault.
>>287702716ZETSUTOSSSSSSSS
>>287697239>I choose you as my friend>then I will force you to get along with me, considering it's so hard to understand youthis is not a friendship Nardo. This is a toxic obsession.
>>2877027242020 storytime is way more funnier it's not fair.
>>287697177How does kakashi know zetsu??
>>287702864He was there when "fighting" Tobi for the 1st time and Naruto called him aloe vera. Kabuto also gave info on Akatsuki members that same arc but we know jackshit about what came out of it.
>>287702145>>287702618thanks to the anon who told me about Kishimoto being a big fan of Devilman manga I finally understood why this shit is so weird after I read that
>>287702969Ah yeah thanks
>>287703015
>>287703129there is a girl in blade of immortal, she looks exactly like ino.
>>287703129I don't trust any official statement made by Kishimoto lmao
>>287697509>guy who turns into a girl>his son turns into a girl>the kid who idolizes him turns into a girl>make Sasuke the woman You self inserters are pathetic.
>>287703320You don't even have to go that far, just look at the way Naruto articulates his dialogue in this chapter.He's clearly the one yearning for Sasuke's cock.
Sasunaru kino
>>287702483>Double personality TobiYeah, that would have been better than what we got
>>287697239YOU ARE MY DREAM
>>287697135I find it funny how casually he mentions he needs to get the Rinnegan.It's like you're walking home from work and you remember you're out of milk.
>>287703577Nagato betrayed him so he is making it up now. Can the llm make a better post next time?
>>287698361it's one of those plot moments when the author just throws in a prophecy and says "yeah bro the prophecy said so" why bother making sense of anything? info dumped by Tobi a couple of chapters ago
>>287703074The next arc is gonna shake this rank like nothing beforeAlso, shouldn't Tobi be on the Not Enough Data here?
I think was the first chapter that revealed that Tobi only had the "markings" or whatever they were supposed to be on one side of his face, as they're visible on the first panel but not on the second.
>>287703074Kisame is nowhere near that strong, he just had a good matchup against Bee. I don't think he beats a single other character in Kage + tier.
>>287703653Naruto's twin brother, Tobiruto
Hiashi won.
>>287703682How about we put transformed kisame in that spot and put normal Kisame a tier below?
would the YOU ARE MY FRIEND jutsu work on Obito if it came from Kakashi?
Can someone link me an interview with Yahagi?
>>287703900>Karin, Ino and Hinata above Sakuralil stinker.
>>287703945Sakura is in the loser corner until she stops being useless.
>>287704001You like Hinata.
>>287704016>console warsI like 1010
>>287699418Just like how Pain was inside of Naruto
>>287699149they're slightly different because tobi's warps himself and kakashi's warps things he's looking at
>>287704061nothingburger of a character, just waifuslop
>>287697101>S-see everyone? Kakashi is still totally badass even though he jobbed hard to exhausted half blind Sasuke! Look at how cool he looks!At least he has the fight against Obito in the war arc (I can only remember the anime fight, hopefully the manga one is at least half as decent)
>>287704120so, Hinata.
>>287704140I agree.
>>287703559lols
>>287699149He wasn't entirely sure how Tobi's technique worked until the War, I don't think he even know Tobi had a sharingan until he introduced himself as Madara. at that point Kakashi probably assumed it was just Madara having hax abilities due to being the 'god of Uchiha'. as soon as he understood precisely how Tobi's ability worked he pretty much had it figured out who Tobi was.
>>287704139Pain arc Kakashi would bend Sasuke over.
>>287697189>>287698506There it is!
>>287704139>(I can only remember the anime fight, hopefully the manga one is at least half as decent)I've got bad news for you.
>>287704286I am sad, but not surprised.
>>287704274>>287704318Obito....he's kinda ugly and deformed, still I would fuck him... what's going on??
Why not just take his other eye back? He could have taken Kakashi's sharingan years ago.
>>287702618Legitimately whats weird about it? Do you not have a close friend you'd give your life for? Do you think Sam and Frodo were homosexuals?
>>287704274>>287704318Did Tim Burton draw these or something?
>>287703559>walk into hidden village>get your things>teleport home to your villain cave>realize you forgot eight tails, nine tails and the rinneganhate when that happens!
Naruto is a conceited, self righteous dick head
please can I go to sleep?
>>287704610No, you stay awake at least another 72 hours
ok..
>>287697226>I'm the only one who can bear your burden, Sasuke, let's die together!Naruto is such a freak that Sasuke snaps out of his own insanity, genuinely hilarious.
>>287697496
>>287697135>I ought to collect the rinnegan before the war beginshe speaks of it like it's an item in an RPG you need before the final boss, kek
>>2877036826 tails Kyubi, but that's the same as with Bee
>Kakashi haven't married because he robbed Obito and Rin out of their happiness, he doesn't deserve to have a partner>Kakashi doesn't know how to deal with women because his mom is dead>Kakashi is scared of having a child, because his own died died early
>>287704764he's also compartmentalised so many aspects of himself that he on longer truly knows who he is anymore. the mask he wears is an allegory.
>>287704502>Do you not have a close friend you'd give your life forNARUTO AND SASUKE WERE NEVER CLOSE FRIENDS
>homosexuality denier eww.
>>287704139>(I can only remember the anime fight, hopefully the manga one is at least half as decent)Anon...
>>287704511>The horrors of having a loyal wife and kids that love you
Sasuke-teme, please fuck my wife Hinata, ttebayo
Sasuke-teme, hold my hand while I fuck Hinata da-te-ba-yo
>>287697135>thank you for choosing Konoha's Best Eyecare>sign up for our Eye Careplan and get a pair of Rinnegan absolutely free
>>287704421With how OP his ability is, none of his actions make sense.
>>287697239YOU ARE MY FRIEND
>>287697111ugly mf
AHruto BRUHzumakiSUSuke UNChiha
>>287697153>sharingan can see chakra (as of the sasuke v deidara fight)>kakashi cannot see tobi's chakra and find out who he is
>>287704818Fair enough, but you're supposed to pretend they were. But if you pretend they were close friends the it not that weird.
>>287702618Rolling on the floor at this, too true
>>287697239kino
>>287705349>actually the manga is good if you just pretend it isHow can you breathe and type at the same time?
>>287698859Huh. Damn. This is kind of true. They both had stakes in their lives (the last Uchiha, and the Jinchuriki) but they weren't intertwined at all. Yet they could and should have been! Since the Sharingan is a key to controlling the Jinchuriki Kishi had the groundwork but it's like he built a beautiful building with empty rooms.
>>287705404I implied that's what Kishimoto wants you think you literal fucking trogdolyte
>>287702724[Spoiler] hey my oc o/ hi fellow volume storytimer [/spoiler]
>>287705464What's that thing on Naruto's arm?
>>287705488slingshot holder. in part 1 he actually carried a slingshot in it, but in Shippuden he leaves it empty.
>>287703015>>287703129If Kishi likes blood guts body horror and freaky monster transformations so bad why the fuck ain't Kimmimaro and Jugo bigger more prominent characters instead of just being background, borderline filler tier charactersBecause that would be visually cool
holy zamn
>>287705558>actually replied>posted hq ancient anime posterthat's my boy. post more
>>287705635And get this, that was a shadow clone (NTA)
>>287704912>>287704318>>287704274This was drawn by the smelliest of fujos, and it ain't a good smell, no matter how much you want it to be.Only the female mind could produce this
>>287697177>Too tough all by myselfJust fight together, you retard. Team 7 is a farse.
>>287705606>>287705716>>287705558>>287705464>>287704643>>287704537>>287704511>>287703900*smooch*
>naruto: SASUKE SASUKE SASUKE SASUKE SASUKE SASUKE>sasuke: wtf do you want from me dude, stop being creepywhy did people think that sasuke was the gay one back in the days?
>>287705795>why did people think that sasuke was the gay one back in the days?Maybe the way he let another gay pedo (Orochimaru) inject him with aids and was shirtless a lot around that timeMaybe the way Karin threw herself at him and he was no way fagging her the whole time
>>287704120What is your favorite character?
>>287705896Naruto Uzumaki.
>>287705916gayslop
>>287697226Sasuke is seething because he knows chadruto will stop him any day.
>>287705937gaygem
>>287705795because you're a lying bitch and everyone made fun of naruto's obsession
>>287700046Sasuke has been perpetually coping and seething in the presence of Naruto since the fight against Orochimaru. Here Sasuke not only sees Naruto is strong enough to go on with his promise of mutual death and put an end to Sasuke's vengeance edge streak, but he is also a hundred percent unwilling to back down or change his mind. Sasuke's frustrated.
>>287677642I miss the previous thread but let's not forget that Kakashi said Sasuke is the way he is because of socioeconomic circumstances.
>>287697189how long has it been since any of you rendezvoused with your black self?
>>287697189>literally doing the virgin walk
>>287702859It got so big because of the lockdown. Once in a lifetime storytime.
>>287702116>why would a man care about relationshipsThis is basically posing that men shouldn't care about character dynamics, aesthetics or narrative themes. You can just vibe with a character pairing if it appeals to you, I remember damn near 20 years ago at school discussing shonen series like this and we all had opinions on pairings.
>>287697239Sorry, Sasuke. Getting friendzoned is rough.
>>287697153World traveler Madara has>hung out with Naruto to talk>crashed the kage summit to declare war>jumpscared Danzo and took his men>gone back home to change and put the rinnegan on his shopping list>pops back in here to rescue sauce for the 3rd time this afternoonwhat a busy day, I'd be so pissed at Shitsuke
>>287707416I was thinking this. So many good storytimes popped up in those two years and got me reading a lot of series I hadn't taken the time to check out before. Take me back...
>>287708410The monkey's paw curls, you will get transportation lockdowns.
>>287705988Yes, but people also thought Sasuke was the gayer one.
>>287698697Kek
>>287697239AAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaa
>>287698510The Naruto world has an ideal of shinobi as tools and white zetsu are the embodiment of that. The minutiae of them doesn't matter, much like how Tolkien orcs are explained various ways. Only white zetsu's narrative role really matters which is to exist as tools devoid of humanity that real shinobi are capable of.
>>287698361>This whole "You are my friend" speech would not happen if Sasuke really hurt Kakashi or Sakura.Yes it would, if Kishimoto had had any balls. Otherwise his whole spiel to Pain would've been lies.
>>287697239https://youtu.be/r6EPMvIhtyA
thread so dead
>>287698547True.
>>287698712Sasuke blitzes and fodderizes him with his Susanoo.
>>287698181Part 1 should have been at least 1 arc pre and post chunin exam Land of Waves like arc and the friendship and Naruto's resolve with Sasuke would make more sense and have more impact. I really wish Kishi didn't rush into a tournament arc so early.
>>287697492Yeah but he was a perfidious dickhead
>>287698859Yeah, you could remove Naruto and replace him with a no-name guy and as long as Sasuke had some moderate connection to the Konoha 11 besides him, the story would go about the same.
>>287699150Sasuke spared Naruto more than Naruto spared Sasuke, and it's not like Naruto ever tried to talk things out with him.
>>287702585>And he WILL like it!That part's wrong. Sasuke is miserable, he's probably out in the forest crying into an Itachi body pillow before he comes back.
>>287702618>which in and of itself is whateverAnon...
>>287701192>This. I would have at least respected the manga more for taking a risk like thatIn all honesty it would have been better than the never-ending fujo-bait for 700 chapters then Kishi going "ok, now this person and this person fucked and made a kid" in the epilogue.Everything would make significantly more sense if they were actually just fags. Naruto lying in bed kicking his feet like a pre-teen girl at night thinking "Sasuke....where are you...are you ok...?" only makes sense if they're actual faggots.And at least it'd mean Kishi would take a stand and not just bait fujos for a decade and a half.
>>287710420Counterpoint: As of right now Sasuke's not exactly interested in talking anything out, maybe back during the valley of the end fight and that's a big maybe
>>287699150This is the crux of the issue. Kishi never "truly" lets Sasuke go over the edge. Who has Sasuke killed, really?>scores of nameless nobodies that no one cares about>Danzo (it's ok, no one will seek revenge for him, he was a meanie!)>Orochimaru (as we know of now, who is also a meanie no one cares about despite him literally being the Sasuke equivalent to Jiraiya)>Itachi (sorta not really, Kishi couldn't even give Sasuke that kill)Sasuke's gone on a "genocidal" rampage that ended up killing absolutely NO ONE of any remark, or conveniently no one that anyone apparently cares about. Despite being a seasoned, well decorated, veteran shinobi who was the interim Hokage, absolutely no one will seek revenge for Danzo. Then there's just 1,000 close calls of him almost killing someone, but that's ok because attempted murder is fine as long as you don't succeed, even if you were trying your hardest to do it.
>>287697496thanks op. good chapter.
>>287697135So what is the actual reason Tobi didn't capture Naruto when he was with Yamato and Kakashi?
>>287711245Same reason why he didn't capture Naruto at any point during the past 15 years.
>>287697492not even his hokage, more like hokage candidate trying to buy the ballet boxes
>>287697263That such a weird thing for Kakashi to say. Kishimoto for some reason really had to convey this to the reader so awkwardly.
>>287697263>i can't turn my back on a friend>and the reason is>i'm the hokage of the land of fire
>>287700963sure but i can't tell what boy you're shipping sakura with from your picture
>>287704511>fans sees a canon depiction>anti sees an edit they probably made themselvespottery
>>287698626What do you mean? This is literally the basis of the prophecy. Naruto and Sasuke are destined to kill each other, and the resolution (in this story about overcoming destiny) is that they become friends instead of killing each other, breaking the cycle of hatred.I wouldn't call Naruto a well written story by any stretch, but this absolutely does go somewhere.
>>287711245Plot.
>>287711441Kishimoto unironically seems to be a sociopath. He has Hashirama tell Sasuke to his face that Madara loved Izuna more than his beloved onii-chan loved him, and doesn't seem to see any issue with that even on a social level.
>>287711606I mean both of them were supposed to die in their final fight but they just don't. The story here acts like Naruto had to die along Sasuke if he wanted to end the cycle of hate, but he really doesn't have to sacrifice anything to convert him back to the good side (other than an arm which he gets back anyway)
>>287697226>>287704644
>>287702618The weirdest part is that Kishimoto based the relationship between Naruto and Sasuke on the one between himself and his brother.Apparently they grew distant as teenagers, which, if Kishimoto acted even slightly smiliarly to Naruto, I completely understand.
>>287700283He may need a white mage in the party.
>>287702308Right now, not really he isn't.
>>287697226>saucegay be like "this dude is even gayer than me"
>>287697263>Sakura just watches and cries
>>287697239>YOU'RE MY FRIEND! AHHHHHHHHHHH!
I want to fuck Naruto.
>>287712275Hinata...
>>287711606>the prophecy>story about overcoming destinyWe're 500 chapters into the story and both of these mean nothing at this point...
>>287711681keked + saved
>>287697411>>287697422Poopnatafans have been really calm after this...
>>287712707>HINATAHINATAHINATAHINATAHINATA
>>287697196>>287697205Yes yes Kishimoto, we saw them conversing in the mind space not even a chapter ago. God what a useless chapter.
>>287697135>ought to collect the rinneganSorry, Coolest Guy. I bet that Konan understood how dangerous those eyes are and already destroyed them, it's such an obvious thing to do.
>>287712707How does Naruto being an obsessed bitch affect us Hinatachads in the slightest?
>>287698506Hilarious, got more?
>>287713322>Hinatachads
>>287698181Not only was there not enough done to create the impression of them being close friends but also even the fujo reading falls flat on it's face because at the end of the day Naruto has no reason to love Sasuke. None whatsoever. The "i saw your suffering and that made me suffer" shit is as forced as anything in the Last. Kishi can't write good romance, gay or straight.
>>287713413We don't shit up threads with fanarts and cuck stuff so that makes us chads by default, yes.
>>287713483>I'm a lazy mfIt shows
>>287713469>Kishi can't write good romance, gay or straight.I think he just can't write relationships between characters in general, not just romantic ones. This is why I find it ironic whenever people point out that Kishi can't write female characters well, when in reality most of the characters he writes are really shit, regardless of gender.I swear him managing to make Jiraiya and Naruto's father-son bonding feel so natural in the Tsunade arc had to have been a fluke.
>>287713551Are you proud of your cuckposting?
>>287713742>This is why I find it ironic whenever people point out that Kishi can't write female characters well, when in reality most of the characters he writes are really shit, regardless of genderThe real difference is that males get to do cool shit and aura farm, which can make them likeable, while he just hates the women and makes all of them suck.
>>287713772>cuckpostingelaborate?
>>287713773Yeah but those male characters are still written like shit regardless of how cool they look. God I hate how this series started directly pandering to niggers who think a character "aurafarming" automatically means they're well written.
>>287713839Yes the male characters are shit, but with female characters Kishi for some reason thinks he needs to makes them terrible on purpose, so they end up not just poorly writte, but also completely unlikeable and incapable.
w-what did I do..??
>>287713992>for some reasonTo make the male characters look better. Why do you think Hinata wasn't allowed to last even a minute against Pain? So we'd forget how thoroughly Naruto got buckbroken in the previous chapters and he gets to look like a hero after being bailed out by fox and his daddy. Same for Karin getting captured like a fool and then forgiving Sasuke for almost murdering her.
>>287713742>father son bonding10000% his own experience. Jiraiya was portrayed as an old hardass dad that shows no emotion or tears, it's kind of inconsistent with how jiraiya are portrayed later post timeskip. Even he's not that harsh with nagato and friends.
Kishimoto the Hack got his bag and dipped
>>287714324naruto is an assman i never got the feeling that he liked big tits in the series
Konan got that drip
>>287699696>I want to fuck Sasuke
>>287697436>friendzoned
>>287697319Naruto's face looks kinda weird here.
>>287704120>>287704140>>287704151More substance than the rest of those bitches, cope.
>>287701437It's very easy for me to ignore fujobait while reading and even easier to ignore your posts since you spoiler them like a good little boy. Faggot.
>>287702618People love to say this, yet out of all the big “4” Naruto has the biggest most vocal female fanbase by far, explain that??
>>287717825Naruto is the only one with romance bait
>>287710295Danzo was a hero.>>287711420That's still assassination of a political figure. Sasuke has officially murdered an official of Konoha.
>>287717825>Big 4Hate when people try to include DB into this because of "muh legacy", it's not from the same generation as the trio.If anything it should be part of it's own trio.
>>287717825>Should've Good thing you're not the one writing the manga you cunt. God i hate trannyspeak like this.
>>287717825>Fujoshi care more about beautiful men than fiction girlsWho could've thought?
>>287702618>he seems to have confused it with homosexualityI'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and just say he's willingly fujo-baiting for sales and not legitimately retarded. He couldn't go full Yaoi because it's still a Shonen Jump manga, but he definitely could bait the fuck out of fujos to keep them strung along for the ride. The story and everything only makes so much more sense if they're actual fags.Sasuke ending up with anyone at the end of the manga is absolutely retarded because forget the fujo baiting and ship baiting shit entirely, Sasuke never even expresses a modicum of interest in sex or romance at all throughout the entire manga, gay or straight.
>>287718514>If anything it should be part of it's own trio.Hokuto No Ken and Yu Yu Hakusho?
>>287718756YYH is from 92 iirc.Jojo or Saint Seiya would be more fiting.
Best manga
>>287718642>The story and everything only makes so much more sense if they're actual fagsAhem >>287713469
>>287702618Why are you mad that Naruto is a gay love story and not your male friendship headcanon?
>>287719201>Picture unrelated
>>287719201Because the love story is bad
>>287718941YuYu is just early 90s in general, I don't know what you anons are talking about though, 1980s big 3?
>>287719255He's giving Naruto the validation he craves because Sasuke is very attentive to him. Very much related.
>>287717825>rock lee and sakurazero development between the twoat best, sakura is just a reward for rock lee, but the truth is that he deserves better
>>287719201See, your picture shows the problem. Naruto and Sasuke are never shown being actual friends; they're barely shown being rivals in Part 1. It was a bond that wasn't there, stated but rarely shown or developed, trading on nostalgia for times that were never depicted until long after the fact through flashbacks. And that's why there are so many people who talk shit about Sasuke and also wonder why Naruto acts the way he does. It's not even that people who can't understand the idea of selfless love per se, but rather the fact that it's a behavior that isn't really reasonably established in the manga.This also underlies a fundamental issue in Naruto and Sakura's bond: much of it is centered on Sasuke, even when he's not around.
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>>287718539Retard
>>287719263And it makes everything around it worse. Hey, isn't it odd how Sasuke almost killing Naruto's last living relative never amounts to anything and Naruto doesn't say anything about how abhorrent it is to sacrifice a comrade like that?
>>287719754I'm sick of faggots thinking they know better than the author.
>they didn't heckin unpack this in the storywhy are troons like this?
>My beloved gay faggot deuteragonist doing the most evil thing a ninja can do in this manga and the braindead moralfag protagonist never calling him out is a great storytelling acktually!!Dilate.
>>287719784>Hey, isn't it odd how Sasuke almost killing Naruto's last living relative never amounts to anything and Naruto doesn't say anything about how abhorrent it is to sacrifice a comrade like that?It hints you that Sakura isn't that special to him, which is funny. He wasn't even angry when Madara stabbed her in the war.
>>287719995I'm talking about Karin.
Where's the new chapter?
>>287719369>80s big 3Yeah
>>287719995>Sakura>Naruto's relative
>>287720074>>287720152Oh lol, but Naruto has never even talked to Karin and is part of the "enemy faction", so why would he give a single fuck about her?
>>287720183Trannys don't understand stories, it's pointless to argue
>>287718539>>287719831ESLbro, "should've" is a normal thing in the english lexicon.
>>287720183Anon's main point was that him backstabbing Karin goes against the theme of "muh commrades and friends".
>>287720203He hasn't even seen Sasuke stabbing Karin, so again, wut? He *did* see Sasuke also slicing Sakura's throat.
>>287720268And why doesn't the narrative allow Naruto know that information?
>>287719995Sai told him that Sakura wanted to get rid of Sasuke, right before he hyperventilated
>>287720264Yeah, and Sasuke is clearly not being rational or himself in that arc due to all the eye hax messing with his brain's rationality. That's why Karin keeps pointing out his chakra keeps getting colder.>>287720315How does it matter? He already saw it with Sakura, who's an actual comrade and member of Team 7 and he still didn't really give a shit.>>287720328>right before he hyperventilatedAt the prospect of Sasuke dying and not being able to stop the cycle of hatred, potentially affecting to the rest of his friends, not at Sakura herself.
>>287720420>How does it matter? He already saw it with SakuraBecause with Sakura he didn't actually managed to harm her.And it hardly counts as backstabbing when Sakura also intended to do the same.
Lil ponderer
>>287720420>potentially affecting to the rest of his friendsWho?Outside of himself and Sakura, only Ino would care.Actually, the mental image of Ino trying to stab Sakura in her sleep would be hilarious.
>>287720203Only trannys support characters like Sasuke.>>287720183>>287720420>Sasuke dindu nuffin!!Okay.
>>287719784No you don't get it bro, attempted murder is ok! Even if you failed not by a lack of trying, but because someone else miraculously appeared at the last millisecond to thwart you!This is what annoys me the most. Sasuke "has" killed Sakura. He "has" killed Kakashi. He "has" killed Karin. And he "has" killed Bee. None of these were him realizing the errors of his ways and stopping himself short, like Sakura in her pitiful attempt to kill Sasuke just now. All of these attempts were stopped short by someone else entirely. He committed to killing all of these people and didn't give a fuck, but through the magic of Japanese culture with their weird view on the "purity" of killing people, Sasuke is relatively sqeaky clean.Kishi didn't even let Sasuke deal the finishing blow on Danzo, Deidara, OR Itachi to keep this incredibly thin veneer of "purity" intact. What makes it worse is that Kishi allowed Sasuke to kill some no-name people, but this is viewed as just perfectly acceptable and not "real" murder. In a manga where deaths should be avoided to not "perpetuate the cycle of violence", allowing these generic, no name shinobi or samurai or whoever to be killed en masse because the writing dictates not one single person on the planet gives a fuck about their worthless lives makes all this shit fall absolutely fucking flat.
>287720650this poster "has" transitioned
>>287720650Hilarious how Sasuke's dickriders said nothing when he was getting clowned on for the last 15 chapters and only now are they pushing back.
Fucking hysterical how much that Sasuketroon seethes over objective facts.
>>287717825first, what the fuck is big 4 it was always big 3.second, I always giggle at this "charactrer i don't care about should marry another character i don't care about either to move out of the way of my ship"
>rock lee and sakura
>>287717459u wel...cum ;)
>>287720183It's the principle. It shows what kind of person Sasuke is. And Naruto not caring about Sasuke's worst sin or the last living family he has IS a flaw in the writing.
Just accept that Naruto operates on protagonist centered morality and move on you faggots.
usuratonkachi-kun please eat my saliva
>>287721066No, SHARTmoto should be punished for writing this shit.
how did they translated usuratonkachi in english dub
sasuke literally died for naruto in 20th chapter
>>287720092in the new thread
>>287721137"honey"
>>287721181And then killed him a hundred chapters later.
>>287720613I mean Naruto's friends, as in the rest of the village.>>287720624I'm not defending Sauce, you retard. Stop proving Yahagi right.
>>287721263iphonetoddler....
>>287721263a little fight between brothers
>>287721263imma type "harder, d-daddy", u gonna type "kys, faggot". just end this boring conversation
>killed himkek. tried. failed. left.
>>287720420>Yeah, and Sasuke is clearly not being rational or himself in that arc due to all the eye hax messing with his brain's rationalityNah, that's him in his purest form. >How does it matter? He already saw it with Sakura, who's an actual comrade and member of Team 7 and he still didn't really give a shit.And that was dumb as well.
>>287721494>>287720650
>>287721293No one those 3 i mentioned would really care about Sasuke dying.Hell, Kiba and Lee were all in of directly killing Sasuke themselves.
>>287721563>And that was dumb as well.Yeah and that's my point as well, I'm agreeing with you nibbas. I just don't see how the same point but with Karin would change anything. Being a clan "relative" doesn't mean jack, it's like saying you care about the last nigger on earth just because you share the same race. Sasuke would need to go full retard and kill someone like Iruka for Naruto to actually care.Sasuke just did not deserve the devotion of Naruto or Sakura. The relationship between all the Team 7 members is profoundly toxic and unhealthy, lacking in mutual understanding and trust.>>287721994Of course they wouldn't, the point is what Shikamaru mentioned earlier in the arc about how they would take revenge if something happened to Naruto and Sakura. Naruto ends up hyperventilating because a lot of heavy shit is going on behind his back and he can't process it properly.
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