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new ep was just released
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Was this scene really necessary?
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>>287705631
her ex is one lucky son of a bitch
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>>287705631
Yes.
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ame gf
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>>287705709
And also a turbo retard to fumble her like that
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>>287705853
alas
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>>287705495
I don't know if the series will go the P-chan doesn't actually exist way, but the heart rate monitor imagery in the one scene he appears in doesn't bode well even if it doesn't.
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>>287705957
Somehow the biggest bitch in the show so far. Like actually she might just be evil instead of just being mentally unwell.
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>>287705944
i mean it doesnt really need to establish that p-chan is real but i'm thinking about the idea that if you've put the karamazov at their most shittiest point in their life, who will be their "support"
ame has p-chan, even if she's the craziest among the cast so far
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Oh no no no
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>Anime deliberately makes sex scenes as unappealing as possible
>Anons still get horny
This says a lot about society.
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>>287705813
>tfw you will never experience this
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>>287706054
>who will be their "support"
Purple: KAngel
Goth: Prince or Kache
Prince: alcohol
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>>287706054
All of them are crazy but Ame is menhera (good) and the others will be menhera (evil)
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>>287706110
waiting for prince's arc and her major malfunction
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You can tell Purple is actually the sanest character because the others know better than to give themselves a gun.
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>>287705957
for some reason, her design in anime really captures ohisashiburi's art style
i think it might be the eyes
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>>287706201
Cute whore
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>>287706240
I love her and her stupid fucking gun.
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>>287706240
wouldn't be surprised if she is
from the looks of it, she's just a huge nerd who uses her mom's credit card
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what's the deal with butterflies?
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>>287706057
Theres no way this is real
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>>287706380
anyone can easily gamble on anything nowadays
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>>287706328
Uruha Rushia reference
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>>287706328
Ame's favorite species of butterfly.
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>>287706328
Butterfly's dream
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>>287706430
This only works on Winblows, right?
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>>287706380
It is real in the sense that the site is real, but it's fake money and exists just for fun.
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>>287706328
Butterflies are the most common metaphor for metamorphosis and that's a pretty prevalent theme in the series, especially when it come to Ame and KAngel.
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>>287706288
>>287706284
Over the course of the episodes so far I've gone from "I can't wait to see this mentally ill bitch have a horrible mental breakdown" to "oh my God she's actually an innocent fucking bean who really believes in the larp, she's going to have a horrible mental breakdown". I just hope she doesn't actually end up giving that gun a bj.
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>>287706284
This over the top character design is what really puts me off these anime OC's. Ame is believable, these are just ridiculous.
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Where was the toilet scene this episode?
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>>287706328
>The motif of treating the spider as Ame and the butterfly as KAngel was something that expanded after the game’s release, but I’m very fond of it because spiders are creatures that prey on butterflies caught in their webs.
https://hazedenki.net/api/Post/Details/needy-anime-3internet-overdose
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>>287706284
She's literally La+ Darkness.
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>>287706550
The funny part is that apparently the heterochromia is natural. Everyone else is faking their appearance but she just looks like that.
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>>287706492
i see i'm assuming ame/kangel has finished her metamorphosis with the 10m subs
while the karamazovs/kache is still in the process
>>287706562
wait what the fuck? didnt know there's an actual novel tie-in for the game
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Is KAngel with her wig off just pissed off KAngel or a transitory state between her and Ame as she comes down from meds?
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>>287706598
i saw some anon posting the pic of the novel from a previous thread, but i didnt know it's actually an NSO novel
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>>287706629
it's still ame, KAngel is just her persona in public
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>>287706598
>there's an actual novel tie-in for the game
I have a copy of it, and should scan it, but while I'm lazy about it please read my sloppy abandoned AI-assisted TL of the first two chapters as an offering. https://files.catbox.moe/mzoj4u.pdf
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>>287706669
oh shit
thanks anon
what AI do you use? i'm planning to read nyalra's menhera interview book soon
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>>287706726
I've dealt with people who abuse drugs less than Ame does and I assure you at this point she and KAngel must see each other as different individuals, even if she started as just a mask. She wouldn't be able to keep it up if she didn't compartmentalise to the point where it's effectively a separate her. Even if it started as a larp it's at this point functionally indistinguishable from a disorder. I'm not even sure she could turn off KAngel when she's got a camera pointed at her considering the miniature breakdown in episode 1 when she sees her own scars.
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>>287706785
>>287706861
if you're translating it just use gemini through aistudio for free, unless you got claude opus access
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OH HO HO HO HO
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Bang!
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>>287706885
>I'm not even sure she could turn off KAngel when she's got a camera pointed at her considering the miniature breakdown in episode 1 when she sees her own scars.
i guess so, because of p-chan
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>>287706885
Maybe Ame will kill herself so that KAngel can live
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Why was Kache was so freaked out when she saw the two girls on the roof?
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>>287705631
can't spell Kache without CAKE
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>>287706974
>"oh shit my friend is gay"
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>>287706974
She had a secret crush on her weirdo friend and realised she missed her chance.
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I love Kache so much I'm so jealous of her CHAD THUNDERCOCK BF
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>>287707036
ex bf
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>>287706998
>"gay"
>dates possibly the second most male-looking anime girl seen this year
Is this the equivalent of fags who only date femboys?
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Will the prince take Kache's gayrginity in episode 6?
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>>287706861
>>287706888
I do have Opus. What do you suggest to actually scan the text however? I'm busy but I think I could complete it in a week or two.
Mind you, I have never done this before and just bought the novel a year ago because I thought it'd be cool to have.
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>>287707056
She'll be back for his HUGE DICK
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>>287706888
>>287707107
>gemini
>opus
thanks anons, i'll try it out once i get some time
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Does this show get better after episode 2? Not enjoying it so far
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>>287707223
I've seen anons say they liked episode 3 way more than the first two. I don't understand why since I liked them all and they're not meaningfully different to me, and ep3 is just a more traditional approach compared to ep1, but you should still try that one and see for yourself.
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My favourite comment on this anime so far is "I wanted to see chouten-chan masturbating, not the director"
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>>287707060
Yes
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>>287706899
daring synthesis
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Do you think any woman fans have broken up with their boyfriends today after being emboldened by Kache?
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>>287706669
Its an actual book? I would be interested in reading this if there was a pdf floating around somewhere
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>>287707473
see>>287706785
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>>287707298
I can't understand how anyone could enjoy the nonstop preaching from the first two episodes but you do you
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uh oh
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>>287707473
219 pages so it's short, but yes it's an actual novel.
Inshallah I will translate it with a LLM and drop it on one of these threads, but you can read the first two chapters in the catbox here: >>287706785
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>>287707537
>how anyone could enjoy the nonstop preaching
i didnt take it seriously
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>>287707060
No anon, you are just too poluted with traps
Girls can easily look more handsome than any male
>>287707102
Hope!
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>>287707009
Somehow I don't think that the lolita and prince will be endgame, they feel more like two fucked up people doing friends with benefits, but I could be wrong.
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Am I supposed to read Crime and Punishment or Brothers Karamazov?
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>>287707298
I thought it was gonna be an adaptation of the game not some boring crap with unrelated characters
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>>287707681
To understand the anime? No but it might add a layer. Read them because they're good books.
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>>287707537
Because every single character delivering said preaching is clearly shown as a mentally ill hypocrite guilty of everything they criticise. KAngel talks about being above criticism while it drives her insane. Kache talks about the perils of broadcasting your whole life while being so desperate for attention she borderline whores herself out. Nothing they say is neither wrong nor deep and yet some people are still legitimately so shallow as to feel called out by it, while the story concerns itself with what the characters are actually like beyond the appearance they broadcast of themselves.
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I hate that GODDESS HOES like Kache are very real, but only chads get to fuck marry and breed them
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>>287707726
This guy gets it. The fact that all the preaching is both correct and hypocritical is why it adds to the story and is a good thing. Also demonstrates Nyalra himself doesn't feel superior to others.
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>>287707726
> clearly shown as a mentally ill hypocrite guilty of everything they criticise
Are they though? Karamazov don't seem to be portrayed that way.
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>>287707597
>Girls can easily look more handsome than any male
Yeah, and if a girl needs a girl to look like a man in order to date her she's at best a very narrow tastes kind of lesbian.
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>>287707624
>I don't think that the lolita and prince will be endgame
I'll be surprised if they're both still alive and free by the end, but they're definitely not endgame, yeah. Prince was sniffing Kache the moment she walked in.
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>>287707009
How much of Kache's current actions do you think are motivated by wanting to be noticed by her friend?
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>>287705631
Holy fucking shit. That son of a bitch hit the jackpot, got two of the best worlds and somehow fucked it up by being a shitbag. She's packing a whole arsenal back there. How she manages to hide this under that skirt is the real mystery.
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>>287705568
Why is she such a fucking bitch? Why did she even take that job if everyone knows you are supposed to fuck the clients.
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The moral of the story is lesbians will ruin your life.
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>>287706158
She is a short haired lesbian, probably raped by father figure or neighbor.
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>>287706093
This is supposed to be as unappealing as possible?
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>>287707743
That guy was no Chad, he just made her believe he had potential.
Her pussy dried up the moment she figured out he was never going to be famous and rich.
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>>287706158
I wonder what all their issues are. Why is the goth the way she is? I know Lollipop is the most "normal" but most normal kids don't have their parents giving them credit cards to spend 500 dollars on a streamer. She only looks the most normal because everyone else is worse.
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>>287705999
what did she even do
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Everyone but lollipop is mentally ill and she's going to suffer so much because of them. I look forward to seeing it.
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>>287707766
They also don't preach as much, for one, and for two we haven't had a good look at them yet, but from what we've seen so far
Purple is a (former?) social media addict who still stans KAngel way more than she likes to admit despite talking about defeating her, effectively idolising her as someone above herself despite claiming to be on the same level and in practice dehumanising her despite not dehumanizing herself. She also clearly gets upset by comments and shoots out her frustration, but in general she is probably the sanest of the bunch and a kid who's in over her head. She's generally parroting KAngel too.
It's not fully established yet, but GothLoli might be lying to others and to herself. She claims she's just being herself, refusing to conform to the crowds and to care about what others think of her, yet all her actions are a deliberate attempt to draw attention to herself. In her seeming attempt to be a nonconformist she still seeks out the validation of the masses. Based on what we saw in episode 1 her breaking the windows coincided with her quitting school, and if that's true then she clearly wanted to be seen and recognized. She claims to place herself above the masses yet she's only held there because those masses exist. She fails at being a functioning normie but frames it as being enlightened.
The last one we know the least about so far, but what we do know is that she approached the gothloli during her moment of mental weakness and tried to do the same with Kache. My personal guess is that she treats her "being yourself" advice to others as "listen to me" specifically. She just seems manipulative and careless. But again we'll need to see more of her and the rest too.
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>>287707803
None of that group seem truly honest with each other which isn't a good sign for a stable lasting relationship anyway
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>>287707953
>500 dollars
500 yen, nonny.
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>>287707990
>sees mentally unwell girl
>immediately tries to grind her body against her
>twice
Also like I'm fairly confident she's not meant to be drinking soda and she's not that old either. And she's a lesbian.
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>>287708051
episode 2 was nothing but them preaching and acting above it all
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>>287708018
Lollipop sees all life situations like it's fiction, plays around with a gun, and most likely had no real friends so her "rivalry" with KAngel is the only way she knows how to socialize. She's not malicious, but she's definitely not what you'd call well adjusted.
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AOTY
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>>287706571
That's what I thought too
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>>287708214
Anons think she is well adjusted because anons were just like her before becoming boring adults.
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It's a funny watching some people see goth and prince and thinking its just cute "yuriiii". It IS yuri but it's not a wholesome relationship if you're paying attention to the show.
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>>287708051
Basically the contradiction of needing the attention of others in order to feel above society in the first place. That's why it's hypocritical to say that and still want to be a popular streamer. Others who don't want to conform to society can do it quiet rebellions of their own, but they want to be noticed. Without the perception of the masses they have no "self".
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>>287705874
The fact that he was a decent guy because his band fell apart makes it more sad.
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i feel like im having a hard time following and im not sure if thats the show or me losing brain cells, im going back and rewatching episodes and im still kinda going huh?
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>>287707808
At this point? The need has probably metastasised into a general need for attention. But in a general sense? Like maybe 100%. Her friend is who she borrowed her entire mentality about stars and normies from and losing out on her seems to have been the inciting incident for all her current tendencies. She clearly wanted to be with her, but also spent most of the time seeing herself as an NPC and thus incompatible with a "diamond" like her. And this is despite the fact that her offer was always open and she just never followed through on it before, probably because she just did not see herself as good enough to be capable of freeing herself from her conditions. But she also felt abandoned, yet couldn't blame it on her friend because she'd never made it clear how much she meant to her. I think she still doesn't see herself as good enough to approach her. She perceives her own attempts to be her true self as insufficient because she's measuring herself against someone who ditched society to an unhealthy degree and got lucky. She was left behind so she hasn't thought of herself as good enough or deserving in a long time. I think at this point her friend's attention requires her to become like her to be a concept worth focusing on in her mind again. I think that's ultimately her problem. Even if she's doing things that are good for herself, she's not doing them for herself.
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>>287708280
It's very toxic yuri. The best kind of yuri. One is genuinely apathetic towards the relationship beyond maybe the fact that being desired and "loved" validates her, the other sees her and treats her like prey.
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>>287708327
>She perceives her own attempts to be her true self as insufficient because she's measuring herself against someone who ditched society to an unhealthy degree and got lucky
This is a good analysis. Kache also don't seem to have any other actual friends.
>>287708365
I don't know if I imagined it but Prince looked smug for a split second when she saw Kache watching from the cuck stairs. There's this need to always have an audience with these characters.
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>>287707904
All he had to do was the bare minimum and pretend he was practicing or makong some shitty music on soundcloud. That guy is a fucking bum.
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>>287708452
Prince is very clearly in it for the feeling of power and not for love. It would not at all surprise me if she did turn out to be a victim herself.
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Somebody should take any scene of KAngel yapping and edit the subs into one of NL's rants. You can see the vision, right?
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>>287708709
Why the fuck is that bald faggot so popular and why are you putting his name next to my cute menhera wife? Get the fuck out.
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the purple hag is the only pure girl
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>>287708954
Is Ame-chan pure if Ame-chan herself took all her own virginities?
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>>287708954
She’ll get corrupted once she meets Ame and her image of Kangel gets tainted by how different the real Ame is.
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>>287706328
Philemon's guides to the Velvet room
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>>287706785
please scan it so i can read it in japanese
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>>287707107
No clue about scanning.

>>287708321
I think its the show since I doubt im becoming retarded too, its going for an information overload and slipping in important stuff
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so why did Ame kiss the nerd last episode anyway, and why did she have him beat the shit out of the guys - like why even bother getting the bully on her side if she was gonna do that?
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>>287709220
She made up that story
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>>287709244
wasting an episode like that would be quite the menhera move by staff but that aint what happened
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>>287709220
She kissed him to motivate him to do what she says
She wanted the other guys beaten up because she didn't like them for woman reasons
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>>287709220
a) That didn't actually happen and
b) She never liked the bully and knew he just saw her as his plaything, did you miss the part where he grabbed her ass after "saving" her?
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/a/'s watching comprehension this season is worse than usual, I'm seeing it in other anime too
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And anons say NGO isn't a vtuber anime?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7hbIgnyhe0
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>>287710043
yeah this place is lacking media literacy
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>>287710129
What the hell is that
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>>287710314
What do you mean? That's Petty Officer Mashengo.
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>>287710350
I know that, what is it doing on my ship.
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So the real whore was goth loli girl?
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>bro is just on hiatus relaxing and banging his gf every night
>the band gets back to touring after she kicks him out
damn, that's a nice story of a man's redemption after unshackling from that pussy (it was just too good to quit)
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Kache's tits and pussy...
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Dreaming of a future where Kache dyes her hair in even more extravagant colours to convince herself she's ascending into someone greater.
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Purple Loli has a dick
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>>287711736
Yeah mine, inside her.
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So how come this anime isn't making more waves? The game was a viral hit back when it released.
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>>287711879
Too good at filtering plebs
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>>287709863
>That didn't actually happen
???
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what's her body count?
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>>287709863
She did initiate that relationship to escape her bullies. She's paying one credit card with another then framing the last debtor.
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>>287712273
She didn't have bullies in the first place though, when she chose to indulge the bully even though she knew what he's like
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The fuck is up with people saying it didn't happen, did you take what she said about making things up literally or was there some tell I missed?
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>>287712134
>>287712300
https://files.catbox.moe/yajfhe.webm
speedwatchers

He never managed to beat anyone up but jobbed against the first bully
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>>287712294
You missed what was happening in that first scene.
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are you all playing Yunyun Denpa Syndrome?
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>>287712341
I understood this was when he tried to go after the rest, when she asked him to?
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Ame is really ugly tbqh
I prefer Kache
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>>287712358
>rewatched
oh. Yeah that actually makes more sense than them being her friends. lol
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>>287712369
Reminds me, how was NGO's translation?
>get debug ending but can't go back for different choices on debug screen
Grim de lacento
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>>287712259
100, maybe more
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>>287712428
>how was NGO's translation?
the same guys that "translated" yunyun did it.
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>>287712466
That's why im asking, since I didn't hear about any drama there
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>>287712477
same quality as the anime.
do you think it's good? I don't.
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>>287712490
Im usually extremely anal about translation so either I wasn't listening very well or this one's fine.
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>>287712373
While you could interpret it that way, it makes the report very weird, as the only "victim" mentioned is the bullied kid. If he actually beat one up, went to ame, then went back to try to beat another one up but jobbed, it probably would've been worded in a different way.

But this applies to a bunch of other things in the episode too. Ame isn't a reliable narrator.
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>>287712373
Then the news would somehow report only him but not the guy he killed? Nah. You can tell the scene where he says he killed someone is fake too because we see his face, when actually he just died an NPC.
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Will Kache manage to keep the baby or will the miscarriage be what breaks her for good?
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Holy shit that writer really baited us saying that the anime would get better from the third episode onwards. So far this anime is fucking garbage.
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>>287712259
i like how they randomly go ultra detailed as if to emphasize the point
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>>287712553
I think the bully just didn't rat on him, since the whole bullying shit would come to light too etc. When he went for it in a public place like that it just became unavoidable
>But this applies to a bunch of other things in the episode too
like what?
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>>287712561
He didn't say he killed him.

besides what even would be the point of making that scene fake?
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>>287712477
I can't compare it to the jp since I haven't played it in jp, but as standalone it's a good translation that especially matches the writing style of a bpdemon. While yunyun lists these for eng localization

English Localization Mauve Spillard
English Localization Sasha Barrett-Schiller
English Localization Stephanie Liu
English Localization Mimi Wang
English Localization Betsy Linehan-Skillings


ngo is just
English Translator Mimi Wang
English Editor Saki Abe
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>>287712641
>what even would be the point of making that scene fake?
Establishing that Ame is mentally ill.
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>>287712654
I see. Might've dodged the bullet then
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>>287712686
we already know that well enough
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Why does this anime try to be so fucking dramatic and depressing when the game was a dark comedy most of the time?
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>>287712853
Its hilarious. Dunno your problem
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>>287712853
Did you miss every single scene Purple is in?
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>>287712869
I guess anything can be funny if you don't take it seriously. You can laugh at how bad it is, but I don't think that was the writer's intention
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>>287712917
Purple's humor is so lame compared to Ame's cynical humor in the game.
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>>287712920
the writers are clearly being funny on purpose. sounds like you just decided to take it too seriously instead despite knowing better
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>>287707376
You know I'd actually like to see an anime about a toxic relationship with a menhera girl.
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>>287712995
Well if they were they sure as hell changed their sense of humor from the game to this anime.
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>>287713030
Mirai Nikki wasn't enough? I'd like to see it only if it's written by whoever's behind Otonari no Tenshi since it's the first one I've seen where they actually act like a couple and the girl says stuff women actually would.
But there isn't really much you can do with a story like that, a movie would be the utmost
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>>287713030
Then hope The Chrysalis Heart does well enough to get adapted.
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>>287713089
>Mirai Nikki wasn't enough
Nah, I'd like a story without supernatural elements, just the drama that such a relationship involves.
>But there isn't really much you can do with a story like that, a movie would be the utmost
That would be fine, or a single season anime/short manga. Just anything that involves sticking you dick in crazy, it seems so fun (in fiction) who am I kidding at this point I'd even do it IRL
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>>287713089
>Mirai Nikki wasn't enough?
No? That was like 15 years ago, we need more
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>>287713162
>spoiler
Sex with a landmine is the best you'll ever have. I permanently developed new kinks just by dating one. Sadly it's a relationship guaranteed not to last.
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Really enjoying this after the first episode and can kinda understand what's happening.
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>bf fucks her raw on the regular
>comments about her being "fat"
Uuh, Kachebros?
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>>287713162
It isn't very fun.
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>>287713673
I am having a hard time. There is a lot of symbolism that goes over my head. I’ll stick around until the very end just to see the conclusion of it all.
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>>287714097
>There is a lot of symbolism that goes over my head
yep. Im still blaming the show for being needlessly unclear about stuff rather than myself, the baseball rampage stuff discussion kinda shows the issue with it
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>>287713989
She's preggers.
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>>287714381
That'd be very fun.
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>>287714493
>>287714381
Kache gives birth live on stream for attention.
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VR chat ED MV
https://youtu.be/l7hbIgnyhe0
Moon Rainbow Butterfly Anime Version
https://youtu.be/S8vu12XcyLA
Nyalra blogpost about episode 4
https://hazedenki.net/api/Post/Details/needy-anime-4-london-calling
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>>287714603
And 4koma featuring handsome rapist bf
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>>287714732
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I can fix her...
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>>287714748
>rapist bf
>fundamentally a good guy
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>>287714787
It's almost like she was the problem all along.
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>VR chat ED MV
This feels very Tsugu-ish.
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>>287714829
Very edgy, what a brave take to make on an anonymous imageboard.
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>>287714603
>One of the things I wanted to express in this NEEDY anime was “the sense of solidarity between girls who can’t trust adults or men.” That’s what the rooftop scene between Michika and Nechika in middle school is about.
And yet thats not what it depicts at all.
>Why did I want to depict that? Well, part of it is that I’ve always disliked adults to begin with. But from a more meta point of view, while I do love “2D girls,” what I love most are “2D girls who feel like real women.” I’m an otaku of girlhood itself.
Does this girl even know what a real woman's like, to be saying this shit. The only adult he ought to dislike is himself. I fucking cannot stand this fart huffing asshat
>That comes from the influence of December When There Is No Angel. In the end, I can’t empathize with people who don’t have emotional wounds or loneliness, so when I really come to love a character, I end up looking for reality in them.
That said teninai is one of the best games ever written when it comes to certain aspects, I guess >>287713030 its not quite menhera but you can read it, its about the difficulty of human relations and the main girl's 'relationship' with the mc is all kinds of fucked up
>It’s not like Kache was rejecting her boyfriend with her whole body from episode 1 onward, exactly. It’s more like people miss each other because of timing, and depending on when you look, someone can start to seem bizarrely villainous.
As much as I hate him its a sad sight having to explain this part, one of the more clear things the anime did and people still misunderstood seeing him as a bad guy

>>287714732
>rapist
retard. Though maybe 'lucker' fits more if you cannot relate to that weird 'relationship on the verge of breaking but both sides are too used to each other's presence to do anything about it'. Lucky retard
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>>287714982
Seething
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>>287714982
>trusting the words of a genuinely mentally ill individual
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>>287714982
does this guy* lol typo I know hes mentally ill but not that much,
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the chad bf won in the end, she was the one holding him back
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>>287714982
>the author is clearly entirely wrong about everything
>except the one thing I agree with him on
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>>287715175
think real hard about the post you made. think about disagreement/agreement and what causes it. think about agreeing/disagreeing with everything and agreeing partially in comparison.
Think for the tiniest bit, please.

I disagree with his fart huffing and unclear self indulgent presentation
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>>287714982
>i-it's not rape if they're in a relationship
This isn't going to run well in court for you
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I've been adopting death of the author since episode 1.
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>>287715225
no. that's retarded. Extremely fucking retarded, it leads to people making up the most random shit that wasn't there.
What should be done is simply acknowledging the shortcomings and facing them instead of making up a butterfly filled reality
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What was the point of the lollipop moving in ep 3? ame(candy)? heartbeat? whose? cock? eh?
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>>287715251
Actually it's the correct approach to all media. What the author meant to say is not what the work says. You can and should acknowledge both but ultimately only one of them actually matters. Otherwise there would be no bad media, because the author always meant it to be good.
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>>287715258
It represented Ame's control over the bully guy's psyche using her womanly wiles. Later, she's shown grasping a much larger orb to represent how she now has that effect on millions.
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>>287714603
>go back to read ep3
>Looking back on it now, the fact that Ame’s father just fades away after a few minutes makes it clear to me how little I know about fathers, and how little interest I even have in them.
>When I watch this sequence, it feels like I’m having a conversation with my own mother.
Thats pathetic if you consider the women idolization. I hate that people like this guy get to be successful - because they are retarded. If he had reflected on anything it would be fine but this is straight up mental illness despite seemingly being self aware? Despicable.
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>>287715364
>I hate that people like this guy get to be successful - because they are retarded
You need to rewatch episode 1.
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>>287715225
Picrel. Don't go looking for definitive answers from the writer just because they wrote it, think for yourself and take meaning from what is meaningful to you.
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>>287715300
>What the author meant to say is not what the work says
If no one meant to said it, then no one said it. Because a schizo heard something that wasn't there, it doesn't manifest itself in reality, only in the schizo's mind, no matter how much he insists otherwise, it's simply not there.
Therefore what the work didn't mean to say is not being said by the work.
>otherwise
I spelled it out didn't I, if the author meant to write something good, but failed, then that's the shortcoming we have to face. That it's a failure at X or Y (which also doesn't inherently mean its bad as a whole)
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It's genuinely astounding how much the IQ of /a/ has dropped over the years.
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>>287715311
That seems like a reach. lol Having the lollipop move but not the moon doesnt really work
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>>287715388
you'll have to spell it out since im not wasting my time on all the yapping again
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>>287715394
Here's a short story:
Anon is a faggot. The end.
I, the author, declare the story is meant to depict Anon having many children with his waifu.
Clearly that means Anon in the story is not a faggot.
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>>287715423
I'm just having fun, feel free to ignore me.
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>>287715435
Retards dehumanise successful people because acknowledging their humanity means acknowledging their own failure to achieve the same results.
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saving to pay kache's hymen restoration ;-;
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>>287715391
>>287715394
oh also I suppose its fine to 'take meaning' since its inevitable to an extent, but it has to be entirely separate from the rating of the piece, as it wasn't intended.

>>287715448
there's extreme and then there's things that dont happen/discussing some severe outlier weird cases which I aint paticularly into. I dont think im wrong sitll but its alot of time to come up with a few more 'buts' and 'ifs' to account for such shit.
I.e I think we can all agree the roof scene shows the sense of solidarity between 2 girls, sharing some sort of understanding, the issue comes in when
>who can’t trust adults or men
a literally insane interpretation jumps in. Viewing it as the solidarity without the baggage not present in the work but in the author's mind is fine and not a made up interpretation. You have to concede at some point that even if something was intended, if it is nowhere to be seen, it's just not there. The author is simply wrong and hallucinating his own work unless it can be proven and explained that these bits were there.
When you get down to it I guess the work is king and the author's interpretation of it is the prince, if there's doubt as to what the work meant, his word is to be taken. If the work is clear and he's full of shit, he remains full of shit
stop making me type words
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>>287715251
Authors lie, anon. They lie all the fucking time. If you took Mary's words at face value you'd never know Frankenstein was inspired by the death of her child and Victor is a stand in for Percy, even though the way she describes her nightmares about resurrecting the baby is worded exactly the same as Victor giving life to the creature.
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>rape
She enjoyed it
Fact
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>>287715503
I think that's just more of his fart huffing so he can deflect from himself. I explicitly said its not about his success but the way he acts and enables his own mental illness that bothers me.
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op and ed are kino
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>>287715577
That's a good example. The one I think of usually is David Bowie always saying The Bewlay Brothers is a nonsense song when it's clearly about his own brother.
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>>287715577
ye, I think I brushed that in >>287715571 but more explicitly the author's circumstances should be taken into account as part of intent, seeing their work through the author's life.
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>ITT
Kino
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>>287715620
tsui no sora remake was the better work, subahibi is retarded nonsense
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>>287715571
I think the issue is that he's just wrong about sex. Prince and goth on the rooftop is manipulative and unhealthy. The guy was a piece of shit to Kache even if you don't think it's strictly counts as rape. Nyalra's perception of sex and human relationships is all fucked and he can't be trusted when he talks about them.
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>>287715660
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To be fair you have to have a very high IQ to understand Needy Girl Overdose
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>>287715614
Bob Dylan pretending Blood on the Tracks isn't about his failing marriage.
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>>287715678
Unclear waxing about fuckall drowning in porn will never triumph the author being clear about his intent. I like Kimika though
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>>287715577
Actually I'm just gonna rant about it for two seconds: Percy was a piece of shit. Great poet but a piece of shit. Mary started out as his underage mistress, ended up disowned by her own family, and didn't marry him and become accepted by her father again until Percy's wife died (and she was still a minor at that point). Her daughter was born prematurely and died in a couple of weeks and Percy did not give much of a shit. She took out most of his edits when she revised Frankenstein and especially the implication that he had written it. It's impressive that she always kept pretending she liked him.
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>>287714982
>Well, part of it is that I’ve always disliked adults to begin with
What kind of retarded statement is that? That's like saying "I dislike food", it's just a comically nonsensical thing to say.
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>>287715613
1st episode ED was kino
Shame they changed it for a generic pop song
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>>287715677
>Prince and goth on the rooftop is manipulative and unhealthy
Two people having a moment is manipulative and unhealthy in what way. There was nothing being said or done there beyond banter. Goth was already a nutcase with or without, all prince's guilty of is not fixing her
>The guy was a piece of shit to Kache even if you don't think it's strictly counts as rape
You have to see it through his pov to understand it. He wasn't in his right mind either
>Nyalra's perception of sex and human relationships is all fucked and he can't be trusted when he talks about them
I agree it's fucked but not everything he says is totally mental, the guy's self aware to a degree and even if he depicts the relationship he had with his mother it's not inherently wrong because it's fucked up - if anything you could argue it's right and correct if it's his own experience.
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>>287715792
You have to infer. He's talking about the irresponsibility of adults, like the uncaring teacher in the classroom, kids not having guidance despite being surrounded by adults. it's something along these lines of hating these people or adulthood in general for what it is vs what it should be.
It's still retardedly self indulgent and ignorant of a large chunk of reality, but it's grounded in something.
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>>287715677
Eh, it's only an issue if you think it's an issue. It's not like the author having an opinion about his own work means you aren't allowed to have your own. Just look at the most successful and studied books in the world, The Bible. Thousands of years of textual tradition and exegesis and barely any of it has to do with the authors' original intent- if all we cared about was authorial intent, that book would be completely irrelevant in the modern day outside of niche historical curiosity.
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>>287715827
If you haven't been depressed you don't get it
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>>287715910
I meant it's an issue specifically when trying to interpret the show through his words.
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>>287715741
Tsui no Sora remake was translated sister. It's time to post something like
>tsui no sora OG was better than subaslop and remake slop
Keep up with times
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>>287715934
Quit being a mentally ill faggot much like nyarla, viewing it through a cracked lens.
I understand enabling and indulging but I still wouldn't call it manipulative and unhealthy - especially not that moment alone, and we still do not have the full picture of the relation.
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Kache <3
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>>287715958
It was translated too - hilariously enough it's so awful you can still say they haven't read it if you wanna jopmax, but who cares, shigatsu youka and sasasagu is what you're supposed to shill
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>>287716045
I want her to bonk me on the head.
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>>287715956
The fact that it challenges the viewer to question the work instead of watching uncritically seems like a success to me. If you take art as a conversation between the artist and the viewer, there are bound to be disagreements and that's not a failing, that's just the nature of communication.
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>>287716152
The issue is that it's failing to communicate properly.
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>>287716062
>shigatsu youka and sasasagu
Oh yeah those ones. And there was another doujin chuuni VN about politics and metaphysics. Can't remember the name. It's from 2015-2020
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>>287716194
Sounds interesting. I can only think of https://vndb.org/v18814 but its translated and not political. https://vndb.org/v19216 was way earlier too
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>she didn't get raped
NIPPON truly is a 1st world country
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>>287716182
I thought nyalra's thoughts were communicated pretty well through the anime. Are his thoughts problematic? Perhaps. But someone being wrong about something doesn't mean the art they produce is worthless, if anything the problematic aspects of the show are what spark discussion and lead viewers to think and create meaning for themselves.
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>xe's a girl
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>>287716326
They are to some degree but only the most basic yap, the visual direction and the way some scenes are strewn about is plain confusing. See the baseball bat kid stuff, the moving lollipop, the sex depiction in the latest episode was also an ?? in how are u meant to take it, theres plenty of these or awkwardly placed Ame scenes which are lost in the sauce as just her rambling randomly after each episode
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How's some random barmaid like kache popular enough to get a discussion thread on 4chan?
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>>287716498
You're in one right now.
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oh no he's handsome
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>>287714773
How?
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>>287705631
BRAAAAPPPPPPPP
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>>287716498
Doesn't she have 200k followers?
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None of you would survive a single viewing of Holy Motors.
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>>287716535
Stop, anon is dead.
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>>287716751
Joke's on you, I actually love surrealism. Trying to pick apart an author's head is actually my hobby.
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weird that Michica talked big in her flashback but ended up being part of some jobber group instead of going solo
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>>287716247
Found it
https://vndb.org/v24000
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>>287716450
The show's presented in a highly subjective and unreliable manner, that's a stylistic choice I think fits for what they're trying to make. There's lots of ambiguity in there and I don't think the onus is really on the showmakers to resolve that ambiguity by signposting what you're supposed to feel about it. Leaving things open-ended and subject to interpretation gives the viewer a chance to engage with it on their own terms and take or leave whatever they want, and this translates directly into the subject matter at hand- content creators and the artificially constructed realities in which they inhabit. You'll never know everything about a streamer since you only see their outward-facing facade, it's ultimately up to you to decide what you think of them with what limited information and pre-existing biases you already have.
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tbqh her streams are fucking boring.
My local daily morning radio podcast for commuters is more interesting.
Bless
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>>287716857
That looks too shit even for jop kamige shitposting
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>>287716917
Open to interpretation is fine but its too open, so open that rather than think about it, it invites glossing over it as denpa nonsense. Its not grounded as something important to consider, just strewn about like garbage.
>signposting what you're supposed to feel about it
With how preachy it tries to be otherwise with all the text, it doesnt really work either and produces something disjointed
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mature anime can't even show pantsu when so many anime this season show even full sex and nudity
bowing down to bullshit TV regulation that aren't being seriously enforced anyway. practice what you preach, COWARD.
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based NEVER GIVE UP handsome chad
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>>287717101
Just buy better TV brother. I can see them.
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>>287717101
She's clearly wearing black panties in your screenshot, though? That's not a shadow floodfill, it's hugging her ass.
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>immediately bounced back
KACHE HELD HIM BACK
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>>287705631
>no stitch
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>>287717208
>useless depressed sex doll with sand tits
He did noffin wrong.
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>>287717282
Ikemen bandman got to rape this...?
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>>287717208
name his band
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>>287717393
Fire Bomber
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>>287717208
easy pussy made him lazy
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>>287717393
Pussy Destroyer
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I don't get Kache's meltdown. She's starting eceleb career now or what?
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>>287717063
I find comparing it to Lain is a decent way to show this. It was visually weird, even weirder than this, but the meaning was always clearer nonetheless.
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>>287717282
>"When doing the final line art, please do not connect these lines."
hm.
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>>287718110
Important.
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>>287716045
Crazy she went to work as a hostess with her boyfriends fresh load still inside.
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>>287712853
was the game really that comedic
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>>287718534
Not really
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>>287718534
It presents as comedic and happy on the surface level but the only thing inside if you actually pay attention is darkness.
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>>287714787
rape deniers won hard
i mean if she was so against it why didn't she break his guitar from the start?
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>>287718715
>abuse is only real if you stand up to it from the beginning
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>>287715741
The best porn is in tsui no sora re, though (exhibitionist ayana). honestly i did like ayana in tsui no sora remake more, but everything else was better in subahibi
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>>287716498
Thats not 4chan, its bakusai, a forum where people discuss about deri heru, soaplands and prostitutes.
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>>287719111
Also I recognized it instantly since I lurk there to see which whores like nakadashi.
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>>287718534
It definitely is more humorous than dark
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>>287719111
People often miss that there's a lot more than one anonymous textboard over the pond.
>>287719196
Ah, yes, kill all phoneposters.png. I remember that.
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>>287719196
That didn't make me laugh, that made me nod deeply and lament the loss of the old internet.
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>>287707473
>I would be interested in reading this if there was a pdf floating around somewhere
Did you pirate the game as well?
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>>287719444
Not that guy but I own the game and got every ending before the last three extra endings were even added.
Is there a digital storefront where I can buy it (ideally, one where I can strip the DRM off the file and read it on koreader)
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>>287719444
>the year of our lord 2026
>paying for video games
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>>287719513
I will pirate anything but video games because it's just annoying compared to anything else and games aren't that expensive. Gaben was right.
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I found this interesting. Actually gaining philosophic knowledge from anime is so rare, I have a new perspective on art now.
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>>287706093
They say it's impossible to make an anti-war movie because war always looks cool.
The same applies to rape.
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>>287719543
I buy indie games because they're reasonably priced, but fuck no to 80 dollaridoo AAA slop. But then again they're such garbage anyway I'm not going to play them in the first place.
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>>287719093
Suba had a few bangers too but yeah, Ayana's and the one Yasuko H are great. My issue with subahibi is that it had too much nonsense, while TnSR has none - every single talk they have is plot relevant, even what seems like nonsense easily links to something tangible unlike subahibi's nonsense for nonsense's sake. Its just heavy philosophy - TnSR is what people claimed subahibi to be
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>>287719645
Yeah, AAA games haven't been worth it for a very long time. You're generally far better off buying like five indie games for the same price and gambling on one being really good.
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>>287719151
Do some actually do? huh
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>>287719645
Im a poorfag rn but when I had money I bought the quality stuff after initially pirating. Like with nier automata when the game let me take out the syschip and I just died and got a bad ending I closed it and instantly bought on steam lol Very rare occurence though
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>>287719606
surely you heard this basic shit before, its literally 'try things and see what you like' packaged as some 'muh art' depth. Zoomiebro please.
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>>287719729
The crack I got for Nier Automata had some bug that made it unplayable after like 3 hours of playing so I just gave up.
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>>287719196
Literally the same thing was said in ep 1 though.
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nyalra shared this shit lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE3j44d9ExA
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>>287717282
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>>287716832
>jobber group
They haven't jobbed that hard. Meanwhile KAngel jobbed to chat.
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>>287720352
Oh god, I forgot about this crazy choten cosplayer. She's still going after four years.
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>>287718140
Defense mechanism against attempts at insertion.
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>>287719444
Piracy is a moral right and universally beneficial to the market and culture as a whole, but also this is literally a case where you should pirate it because the creator got cucked out of earning from it by the publisher.
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>>287716832
Right?
I hate how close this show is to being great, but with shit like this...
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>down 10% on my investment
Purple better lock the fuck in next week. I'll never be able to afford high school tuition for my waifu otherwise.
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>>287719668
Suba was supposed to be the TnS remake, but it turned into something different. That’s why it feels rather disjointed at times. The author said that he written it to have the “answers” to TnS 99’s questions. The TnS remake is mixture of both TnS’s questions with Suba’s “live happily” philosophy.
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>>287717208
He became more seen while Kache did not. Ironic that she still hasn’t gotten the validation that she wanted and looked for it through her goth friend and rocker bf.
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>>287718110
>>287717282
I don't get it.
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>>287721058
The crashout will be legendary. I wonder if she'll join Karamzov or try to stay indie.
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>>287721014
Subahibi is 'disjointed' because he put in random nonsense there. Characters say things that are never relevant later just cause \muh denpa'. It doesnt answer anything from TnS99 nor did it need any answers. TnSR has the exact opposite message of subahibi where he directly affirms death as a valid choice, when Zakuro jumps its framed as an ending to her story, that she chose because she could not deal with life as it was. In the end the pro-life Yukito affirms it in Takuji's case too. Its the opposite of subahibi in every aspect, the other side of the coin.
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>>287721231
Isn't 4 live streamers a little too crowded?
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>>287721341
They can just toss the goth off the roof.
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>>287721308
Suicide is for retards who actually believe there's an afterlife or you get reborn as a spider or a cow or some shit
This is the only chance you have to be conscious and after that that's it.
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>>287721308
You’re overlooking the fact that Yukito’s entire character is basically “Life is meaningless, so we must give it meaning and find happiness in the moment”. Even Takuji accepts that Yukito was right at the end and he understands that he was loved in a different life since he hears Kimika’s voice.

TnS and Suba are both polar opposites, but TnSR recontextualizes both games.
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>>287721481
Kache is still a normoid that can't get into character.
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>>287721746
>“Life is meaningless, so we must give it meaning and find happiness in the moment”
Pretty sure his position is that there doesn't have to be any meaning to it, literally as the screenshot said, trying to find meaning isn't going to result in anything good. Life's inherently happy, i.e live happily. The other side of the coin necessitates the, well, first side, so yeah.
Takuji only stopped believing himself to be the sole truth as the result of the conversation on the roof with Ayana before the final day (and the subahibi experience on an unconscious level), he doesn't agree with Yukito, they just understand one another.
>recontextualizes
Not seeing it. The only way it touches upon subahibi is by finally explaining the vague stuff scaji put into suba like the dream with the baby finally making sense etc and that Ayana is what becomes of Riruru and Takuji
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Needs more La+
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>>287721811
Throwing the goth off the roof should help make her unwell enough. I could see prince doing it. Kill the one you've been fucking after she shows interest in her friend, frame it as suicide, "comfort" Kache in the aftermath.
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>>287721567
I don't think that's necessarily valid since rather than living a pointless life, if they can 'turn it into a story' they might have a greater effect on the people than if they just lived it out doing absolutely nothing of value, not even remembered by anyone. If it sucks, why stay kinda thing - that said I agree, I dont get why would anyone kill himself, but considering smart people did it too there might be something to it
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>>287715402
(animu) Carl wouldn't say that.
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Prince needs corrective rape.
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>>287716832
Was Nechika pregnant there? She looked fat in some shots.
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>>287723190
We don't know yet. She strikes me as the type that would have unprotected sex with fans.
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>another yuri where the men are evil
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>>287723295
Don't worry, the women are worse.
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>>287723295
If anything they were overly generous to the man. He faced no negative consequences for his actions and even got his shit together due to his (ex) girlfriend's incitement. It's a pretty interesting contrast with Episode 3 where Ame inspires the nerd to stand up to his bully only to end up landing him in the hospital. On one hand Kache's retribution turned her boyfriend's life around, and on the other hand Ame's "salvation" ended up dooming her first fan.
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>>287723295
what are you talking about? the scriptwriter just came out with a blogpost saying the boyfriend did nothing wrong
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>It's just water weight bro
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another FOTM
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>>287714982
time to seethe because this isn't an anime about men fixing and fucking menhera girls. if you're mad about that go watch something else.
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>>287722215
LN Carl would.
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>>287723758
>>287723190
>"lesbian" shows up with a pregnant belly
kino
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invest in poison denpa coin
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>>287723491
He also said they're lesbians healing each other because they can't trust men
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>>287724081
>men bad
>introduces woman who looks like a man
I wonder what that might mean.
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>>287724043
A child who larps being mentally ill is an honestly great foil to Ame masking her mental illness with KAngel.
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>>287724043
I already put all my stock in dokuloli coin
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>>287723781
All of those had lasting legacies and maintain some presence to this day. Except 2nd. In fact, pretty sure this is the first time I hear about it. Given I'm not a vn fan, but still.
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>>287724641
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>>287716697
280
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>>287724872
There's a real possibility of a scene of Kache getting excited overlaid with her follower count going up and that would be such a targeted strike to my weird kinks.
Was the number lower in episode 1?
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>>287724818
Guilty as charged, 2011 newfag. Still, popular things of the past tend to make waves here and there in some way. That one seems completely lost to time.
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>>287725015
> Was the number lower in episode 1?
No.
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>>287725152
Lmao. Imagine getting no clout despite your whore job.
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>>287723904
u meant to reply to someone else? im not rereading my post but I dont think I said anything even hinting at that
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what's going on
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>>287725049
nta but yes ymk is sadly lost and buried, still a classic
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>>287725264
AOTS
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>>287725417
Anime of the century*
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It insists upon itself
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>>287725691
It's really funny that in the scene this originates from they're talking about The Godfather of all things.
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>>287715258
A lolipop is sweet in your mouth, you enjoy it in small doses to stay healthy and happy. If it vibrated, you could use to fap. That would be extra sticky and slightly less sanitary, but there's no real reason not to do so every day just because the manufacturer thought they were making candy. Students are manufactured intermediate products that extract money from governments and parents and can later be converted into workers. She's using one sexually, throwing it away then using another until she can escape the latest emergency in the hell of other people. But you can't win and you are what you do every day, so eventually she just eats people like lolipops every day, gets too thin and interprets anything else as someone trying to eat her. But she's not wrong, and a healthy life isn't a good one. You see her moving on to people who understand they're being eaten, demand more from her in return, and protect themselves from being used all the way up, which is a nice refinement. And eating just a little from way more people who ask way less with a completely open dialog, every day she gets farther from the scared girl who traded sex for violence. Clearly it sucks, but what doesn't? What she really needs is a pet pharmacist to advise and supply her with something besides benzos. Or to go to school to become one. It's not as hard as becoming a doctor. The Sailor Moon author did it and didn't even use it except to make business contacts.
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>>287715503
Much of success is a matter of cruelty or luck. You only gain humanity from resisting temptation or seeking escape from influence through trial and error. Successful people just have less opportunity to do that. Every human is a failure. Only animals climb to the top.
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>>287726092
I'd love to use Purple Lollipop to masturbate.
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>>287715580
It was a chore. Like choking down protein powder instead of steak. Another small satisfaction missed.
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>>287715677
>Nyalra's perception of sex and human relationships is all fucked
A lot of people operate that way, interact with each other on those terms and ignore you. I don't know what stake you think you have in that process. Clearly you wanna watch, but you don't have much say in events if you don't participate.
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>>287725264
I think the message of this anime isn't reaching most people
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>>287715677
Sex is a disgusting thing. No one would partake in it if they weren't slaves to their biology.
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>>287726092
you ok?
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>>287726486
did she take too many meds?
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There really is just a divide between people who were never depressed, depressed people, and people who were depressed. The author is clearly in the middle group.
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>>287726543
She saw how disgusting humans are.
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>>287726543
She vomits when she gets too upset.
>>287726632
Yeah, I had thought he was in the third group until I read some of his blog but I realized he's definitely still going through his troubles.
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>>287726656
The good news is depressed people can still make good art. I just hope he doesn't fuck up the ending. I'll never forgive SS&E.
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>>287726632
you're not special
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>>287708256
Lies.
I'm still like her despite being 30.
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>>287725049
YMK's one of the original dude weed lmao VNs, definitely still worth a read in 2026
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>>287726960
What's that have to do with the post?
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>>287726543
She got doxed.
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>>287716832
Michika is all talk, that's why the three stooges will never compare with the GOAT Chouten-chan.
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Kache did not need to be that sexy but I'm glad she is.
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How bad do you think Kache's pussy smells?
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>>287728038
probably still dripping her ex's cum
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>>287727209
>Her pupils widen
>They obviously constrict
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>>287727593
>There really is just a divide between people who
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>>287728321
Yeah. It doesn't mean either is better. It's just a very clear demarcation I've observed. People who haven't had it on average don't click with the mindset of those who do have it, because it fucks with your brain that much, while people who have had it recognise it for what it is without sharing it.
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"But what if you interviewed KAngel again?
It was not easy trying to ape the original artstyle with only a mouse.
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>>287728522
Great job!
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>>287702120
>>there's several autistic debates about caligula ultimate cut and the original
The Ultimate Cut would be way better if they kept the score of the original. Imagine removing the incest leitmotif from the whole film, despite the fact that it serves to illustrate an emotional anchor for Caligula. fuck modern filmmakers (although the guy who edited the Ultimate Cut wasn't even one himself, allegedly)
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>>287728543
what version do you recommend watching?
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>>287728818
honestly, I don't even know. I'm too autistic to give an objective recommendation on this, since the first movie made me cry (multiple times) but the second movie is more coherently edited
for the record, the version nyalra watched was the Ultimate Cut and he liked it just fine, so go for that one if you'd like
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>>287728489
Thats just vague assumptions and projections. As I said, you're not special.
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>>287728902
>t. never had depression
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>>287728489
This is absolutely true, don't let the other anon persuade you.
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I have translated 70 or so pages of the novel with Claude so far and I just wanted to say that either Claude does a really job embellishing or Nyalra's actual writing is very very nice imho. Either way gave me some extra hopium for the show.
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>>287729024
ganbare, anon
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>>287729024
Writing novels and writing tv shows or anime are different artstyles, there's a dozen other examples of good novel writers working directly on anime and having their writing get mangled because of anime scriptwriters.
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>>287729131
They still have more than 0 overlap at least.
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>>287728918
im getting it by having to interact with people like you. My sister and osanaijimi gf had it, it doesnt make you special projector-kun.
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>>287729024
post an excerpt of jp and en side by side
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>>287728522
Nice
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>>287729176
You're literally replying to someone saying there's a divide between people who've tasted spicy food and people who haven't by saying "it doesn't make you special". Go back, you fucking child.
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>>287729186
I guess this will do, the beginning of chapter 3:
https://pastebin.com/sF6mMPx6
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How much longer until she gets high and does a gambling stream?
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>>287729726
>How much longer until she gets high
Anon, I think she always is.
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it's actually super insane how bodacious Kache is, big titties and fat ass. top 0.1% of Japanese bodies.
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>>287729396
Okay now keep applying this to everything else and see how retarded it becomes. I don't see anyone coming up with a divide because the dude was born in japan or drank japanese water or tasted japanese sweets, yet this faggot (You) feels the need to insist on being special because of something he wrongly assumes the author suffers from
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>>287730032
>feels the need to insist on being special
Literally only in your head.
>because of something he wrongly assumes the author suffers from
How do you think he ended up on meds, anon?
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>>287730161
>Literally only in your head.
>muh need to be X to understand him so if you're not special like me you can't!
Right.
>meds
I wouldn't know, I don't follow him.
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>>287730348
>>muh need to be X to understand him
That's not what I said at all though. If it did come across as that I apologise.
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>>287729582
Pic rel is closer if you're curious about his writing.
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>>287730632
What was the point of calling attention to the divide then?
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>>287730667
I'm sure you'll figure it out eventually.
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>>287730709
I love being right.
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These threads invite some incredibly smug and petty people.
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There really is an undeniable divide between people who agree with me and people who should kill themselves for the good of society.
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>>287730776
we're all internet angels
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What would sex with Kache feels like?
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>>287731246
There are no angels.
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>>287731258
Like a very expensive sex doll.
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>>287731217
hey me, looking good tonight
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>>287731392
Thanks me, I think both me and also me are looking pretty swell too
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>>287714515
Wouldn't be the first time.
https://youtu.be/ay46SAYGm1U
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>>287731440
We're all "me," after all.
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>>287731217
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>>287717208
sex with that emo boy on the far right
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>>287728038
If she just let the loads stew in there it probably smells fishy. But since she is single now it should smell and taste good.
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>>287731258
She would lie still on bed while you do everything and hear her muffled whimpers every time you thrust into her dry pussy and she might even tear a little.
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>>287732657
I hate dead fish.
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>>287732726
They are cute tho. They let you rape them!
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>>287732726
She's only a dead fish if you rape her daily and destroy her will to live. If you clear the very low bar of not being a total piece of shit she'd probably be a great lay.
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>>287732772
I cant imagine her getting into it the way she was, quit blaming the guy, shes in a similar state to him, just awakened first and woke him up too
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>>287732877
You act like he's you, just get over it
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>>287732932
I just hate your schizophrenic anti-male obsessed kind, fuck off to your containment boards and websites
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>>287732957
Not liking rapist deadbeats = schizophrenia
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What in the hell is going on? All I said was I hate dead fish.
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>>287732978
im not getting into this with you, obsessed monkey
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>>287733000
Because you have no argument
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>>287732995
Anon you can't say that, we have dead fishes in this very thread...
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>>287733008
because we've been at it for 3 fucking threads now and you're mental enough to samefag and keep bringing it up over and over to promote your retarded anti-male obsession while dismissing any point to the contrary people have made or the show has shown. Kill yourself.
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>>287733067
Perhaps you should reflect upon why you're sympathizing with a rapist and insiting that he represents all men.
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>>287733161
This. I would never rape a girl without her consent
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I blame strong zero for deteriorating young girls mental state.
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>>287722083
It's a category error. Words have meaning. Non-words only have meaning when used for communication. Life is tv static, it just happens with no message. Any meaning you make out of it is language synthesis, not life itself.
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>>287726486
Disgust is as much biology as suspending it to fuck. If you weren't a slave to biology you would sit down and starve to death. Yes you would, your limbic system is your memory and motivation, you are not without it.
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>>287733593
Yes being a human is disgusting, glad you agree. I can't wait for the day we can upload ourselves into perfect machine bodies without the icky human bits.
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>>287729867
That's not how it works. She lives at the edge of tolerance. More is toxic, less puts her in withdrawal, which means being helpless as your mind tears your world apart and attacks people you care about. Benzos are a terrible drug to abuse. There are way better choices. She could be the person she wanted to be if she would just seduce a pharmacist. Or even just a good drug dealer. Coke would change her existence into life.
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So do I need to play the game before watching this anime?
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>>287733969
Not really. It gives some context for stuff like P but outside of that it can be watched standalone.
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what kind of mental illness is this?
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>>287734011
>no self-harm scars
What's the point?
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>>287734029
Her self-harm scars disappear when she transforms into KAngel. Her boobs also grow.
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>>287733969
You are missing out on some fun stuff if you don't play it
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>>287734042
What does self harm even provide the brain? A few seconds of prefrontal cortex dominance? I got no beat on that behavior.
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>>287734011
Is she a virgin?
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>>287734155
pain to wake up from dullness
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>>287734042
>Her self-harm scars disappear
Nope
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>>287734219
That makes sense with benzos. And for teens sedated with common antidepressants. Am I really lucky to have pain to run from? Should I be inflicting more pain? How do I tell when someone needs me to hurt them? I remain sick of being human.
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>>287734207
She only fucks on rohypnol, so kind of.
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>>287734207
No lol, P-chan has even fucked her in the ass. And you can make her hook up with ojisans on dinder
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>>287729024
samefag but Whatever from Oasis got mentioned in the novel, the title of the next episode. The translation won't be finished until Saturday, but I feel like I need to share this tidbit:
During a KAngel late-night livestream, she talks about how she's drawn to anarchic artists, she loves Vivienne Westwood, which led her to the Sex Pistols, then to Oasis. She expected wild rock given their reputation for substance abuse, but when she heard "Whatever," she was shocked by how gentle and beautiful it is. She connects "Let's live freely. You and I should both just do whatever we want." to herself, if Oasis's songs made them into beacons of hope, then she too can be that for her fans by living freely. It's her justification for being a streamer, "my job is to live freely for everyone's sake." Kana's reaction is that this is a "winner's logic", Oasis knew how write songs, KAngel has charisma. "You can become anything" is easy to say when you actually have something.
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>>287734711
Does KAngel know English or did she just look up the translated lyrics?
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>>287733161
He's an unironic manosphere retard, give up trying to reason with him.
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Has anyone made a stitch of Kache in the shower?
I need to see some menhera bum
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>>287734291
Isn't p Chan literally the player manifesting to ame as a delusion? She's getting fucked in her dreams like a turbo virgin
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>>287706057
What website is this?
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>>287706669
>blogging through blogposts
>blogging through books
>blogging incessantly through anime episodes too
Homie got always something to say
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>>287734759
it's tough to get a good stitch because of the fade in
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I like how Kache sounded so happy when she was talking to her ex out on the street
but where does she go from here? I don't think it will end well
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>>287735324
Going menhera will give her enough fuel to become relevant. It won't end well but I'm intrigued to see where it leads her
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>>287734852
Animebets.org
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>>287734711
>You can become anything" is easy to say when you actually have something.
I wonder if he's read tsui no sora >>287721308
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girls with marks of them cutting themselves not only makes me feel pain in my body when i see that shit, its a massive turnoff and i could never date or fuck a woman who cuts herself even if it was long ago
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>>287736081
>I wonder if he has read Tsui no Sora
>https://hazedenki.net/api/Post/Details/tsui-no-sora
It's truly a mystery.
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>>287736593
Maybe he didn't read the remake then? Or its >>287734711 's fault for puting it the way he did, since it feels like a reference but being such an opposite is weird
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I'm surprised no one mentioned the symbolism of Kache dying her hair, or maybe it was just too obvious to bother talking about...
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>>287737470
>>287698512
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>>287737470
Shes just following through on her rock dreams of rising above a normie, its rather generic/obvious ye
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>>287734814
If anything she's rekt her holes with dildos and you can still use dinder so she's hardly a virgin anyway
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Please, God, Kache bodymod arc
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>>287737609
I saw it more like a purification than a descent into madness, no longer putting up with her half-hearted existence and taking control of her own life. I dunno I just don't see her going insane, the true insanity would have been settling for that banal miserable normie life.
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>>287737747
She doesn't really fuck anyone on dinder though, judging by her tweets.
If she isn't a virgin it's because of the bully guy.
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>>287737849
Her hair is naturally black though. She gets told to embrace her true self yet does so by fully committing to a facade instead. And she's still miserable, and still desperate for attention. I think ending the episode on KAngel smashing her monitor is deliberate: the source itself all these characters are getting their "just ignore the haters" mentality from and the one who's furthest along that path is herself incapable of committing to it. The endpoint of what Kache is now heading towards is if anything the one who handles criticism worst of all.
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>>287737887
How do you think Ame survived for so long while being a neet? She fucked around lmao
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>>287737957
>embrace her true self yet does so by fully committing to a facade instead
She dyed her hair to express herself retardbro. The 'facade' was putting up with everything thus far.
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>>287738230
>he drank the goth koolaid
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I kind of hope the boyfriend gets a redemption arc now that his band is back together and the reveal he used to be a nice guy
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>>287738418
He already did.
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>>287737957
I wouldn't say black-haired Kache is particularly "real"- she literally becomes a faceless NPC at one point. Rather than a facade, she's constructing her own identity instead of being swept around by everyone around her and going with the flow. At first she was unwilling to fully commit to it and only dyed half of her hair- she wanted to express her individuality but chose a half measure. Going fully blonde represents her self-actualization and her refusal to live subject to the whims of others. She's being set up as a foil to Ame/KAngel, so I don't see her spiralling into self-hatred and menhera outbreaks since we already have Ame herself to explore that angle.
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>>287738523
>so I don't see her spiralling into self-hatred and menhera outbreaks
Lol
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>>287738523
This. Rather than putting on a mask to be an idol, she's shedding her mask to become one.
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God what a horrible show to watch while depressed
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>>287738523
>she literally becomes a faceless NPC at one point
You're an NPC. I'm an NPC. Normal people are NPCs. She sees herself as one in that moment because she realizes the divide between her and her friend, but her friend is not a healthy role model. This is a story about maladjusted individuals incapable of living life happily who cope by thinking anyone else who can do so is simply too stupid to see reality for what it is. Kache's unhealthy need for attention is still there. She's choosing to be who she wants to be, sure, and in general that's not a bad thing, but she's doing it to cover up who she really is rather than reflecting on it and coming to terms with it.
She was depressed and pondering suicide even before her bf got scummy. She arguably allowed him to do what he did because she was that apathetic and directionless. Kicking him out is good but it won't address her dissatisfaction towards life. She sent him off by claiming she is better and "above" him, and she needs to rise in popularity and get more attention to make herself believe that's true because popularity is what makes her friend a "star" and validates her individuality.
She claims not to care about negative comments yet goes and makes a scene about them. She criticises her bf's band by saying no one even talks about them any more. The truth is that she's clearly stopped caring what type of attention she gets because even negative attention is better to her than fading into normality. Even being hated by the masses still means being above them. But she's absolutely not going back to a regular life right now.
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Imagine being robbed by this whore while her boyfriend's cum is still inside her
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>>287705631
>>287717282
>this is fat according to the Japanese
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How did he know?
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GOD
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>>287739168
Some people just talk shit for the sake of it. They even call KAngel a cow in the game
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>>287739234
No, they call her hot!
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BF-kun had some funny lines
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>>287712259
Which had the better breakdown face?
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Not that I think Kache's change will be completely positive, but I doubt the message will be that the most healthy thing to do would be for her to just accept the normalfag life. I think it will be more like a honorable attempt to escape the inherently unsatisfactory everyday life that will bring its own problems.
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>>287739576
The lesson to be learn is that no matter what you do, you are still mentally ill and life is pain.



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