It's a damn shame that the quality of Nadia was impacted severely by the Island/Africa arc. It wasn't even Gainax's fault, either. Throughout most of production the anime was supposed to be 26 episodes, but at the last minute the TV network forced them to extend it to 39 episodes. They were suddenly forced to come up with 13 random episodes that they hadn't planned for. The first 22 episodes were directed by Anno, and are absolutely excellent. When the extra 13 episodes were ordered, Anno was suffering from intense burnout and overwork, so he decided to work on the ending rather than directing the filler. Therefore, episodes 23-34 were not directed by Anno, and are significantly worse than the rest of the show. Fortunately the last 5 episodes were directed by Anno and had the same quality as the first half of the show.In an alternate universe, there's a version of Nadia that's remembered as an absolute classic, 26 episode anime. However, the failure of Nadia contributed to Anno falling into a 4 year long depression, which eventually led him to creating Evangelion. So Nadia failing was ultimately good in the long run, because without it, Evangelion may never have been created.Still, there's a lot to love about Nadia. The parts directed by Anno are still greatly enjoyable, and a fine piece of early 90's anime. Also the opening theme is amazing and is now one of my favourite anime OP's.
based Anno included a nip slip
Damn she has a nice body. Jean's a lucky guy
there's always the Nautilus Story compilation movies
>>287712472Yeah, she's totally hot.
>Korean gods taking a shit on lame jap anime in revenge of being used as cheap laborBased
Anno's first pro anime was Macross where this exact situation happened, the show did well and they ordered another cour when it was supposed to be 2. Instead of doing what they did which was basically write an epilogue he decided to shit himself and run away while Shinji Higuchi cobbled together episodes so bad the Nips had to make up conspiracy theories about Korean sabotage to try to explain it.Personally I think Anno already had a template to work off of, he could have just did what he damn well knew Macross did, and he really had no excuse to abscond.
>>287712265I didn't mind Island episodes. Africa episodes are just bad.>>287712472Electra is the hottest babe Sadamoto ever drawn.
Brown Shinji
>this show has a couple more episodes?>AAAAAAA I'M GOING INSANE SAVE ME NIGGERMAL I CAN'T PUT UP WITH A FEW SHITTY EPISODES DESPITE THE REST BEING TOP QUALITY
Grandis is a severely underappreciated Gainax girl
>>287712265I dropped it after neo-atlantic arcwhat the fuck why was it rushed?
>>287712265How are you even a fan of Nadia’s show if you think the episodes with her first kiss with Jean are filler? Retard
>>287712265Reminds me to Twink Peaks with and without Lynch
>>287713255Link's Awakening much?
>>287713099trvke>>287713202There were a couple of important scenes in 11 episodes of filler
Nadia panties
>>287712447that's probably just a shadow.
>>287713008Would
>>287712265Have you seen that hentai video where she and the dude are basically the protagonist?‘ I'm not so where it was made or how legal making it was.
>>287712265>Nadias anime getting some lovei am glad>>287713099based. sometimes the QUALITY forgets her makeup but she still looks good anyway
>>287714549The heck are you talking about
Notice how people always talk only about the island and Africa episodes and nobody seems to give a fuck about the "canon" story.
>>287715573It's been decades since this came out, there's nothing left to talk about. You don't see evangelion threads with people talking about the various angels and conspiracies either.
>>287713099Well yeah, she has to compete with Electra and the cute brown heroine.
>>287712265The Island and Africa arcs are great.
Watched this on TV when I was 15, good times. I miss the magical feeling you got from watching a good adventure show when you were young.
>>287712265has anyone edited together like 2 episodes worth of anything good from the filler eps to place in-between the first 22 and the last 5 eps?asking as I dropped nadia sometime into those filler eps ages ago and wanna pick it back up to finish it
I started watching this a few years ago. I remember getting as far as some under-sea graveyard, and finding the whole thing so underwhelming that I gave up at that point.
>>287716403Yes, there are - or at least have been - some edited-highlights compilations.
>>287715573well obviouslythe island arc is so bad that it retroactively ruins it. it makes you hate the characters
>>287712265>2 sentences of information jam packed into 4 paragraphsthank you OP
>>287715985t. french cuck
>I just saw an Atlantean kissing a French boy. It's over. The west has fallen.
I think I wouldn't mind the Islands and Africa arcs if they hadn't pretty much reset the character development of Nadia and Jean.
>>28771640330 and 31 are the two essential Korean episodes. And from 35 on is the climax.
>>287718679Should've been "Lemuria and Mu have fallen".Billions must drown.
>>287712447>>287712472>>287712787>>287712931>>287713410>>287713958>>287715481>>287715573i love chocolate.
Do you think Grandia was inspired by this anime?
>>287715573I’d be happy to talk about how pure kino the last arc is, but OP got the thread off on the wrong foot.>>287717806Nah it’s comfy.
>>287715510>>287714549This.
>>287720523wut le fug
>>287720647 He only gets one sex scene in the hentai.
>>287717806The Island Arc literally has the most development for Jean and Nadia's romance in the entire anime.
>>287721436I would argue it just retreads traits that were already established about them. They don't behave in truly 'new'ways on the island, in fact they become more simplistic and flanderized
Is this series worth watching for Nadia alone? I'm in the mood for some chocolate.
>>287721796If you like evangelion it's more of the same. Cool worldbuilding, comedy, and gut punch trauma moments.
>>287721796yes
>>287721796She's like a worse Asuka, tsuntsun bitch.
>>287721436they regress like crazy during it what do you mean
>>287721714Nadia in particular goes through a flurry of emotions during that arc:>nega bitch digging in her heels>worrying over and finally appreciating Jean>trying to get close to him and becoming deredere>tsun coming back>shy, uncertain reflectionsIt's not even just her and Jean. She had that nighttime conversation with Grandis as well, which was a great moment for both characters.
>>287722097>Asuka but brownStooop, my dick can only get so erect!
>>287722139good thing it's all undone when jean gets cucked in africa
>>287722102She regresses at the end of the arc, but it's still the only part of the series where she shows so much affection for Jean and realizes how important he is, other than the last five minutes of the final episode.
>>287722097What did she mean by this? I'm not a turbo carnivore or anything but there's nothing inhuman about eating meat. If anything we're really suboptimal biologically for a purely vegan diet.
>>287722097she was even bitching about flowers being grown on the ship. stupid brown brat needs correction
I like this island arc pre granfis gang, it's only with that epsiode that it seriously takes a unimaginable nosedive in quality all around. When it's just the three of them on the island it's obvious not that high point of the series but still worth watching I'd say, it's fun. There's also pretty good stuff like the mushroom episode. Grandis gang onward is pointless, obviously aside from the red Noah stuff.
>>287722202We already knew she appreciated his efforts but was too stubborn to open up. Island arc was just retreading as filler that where the kiss could have been save for the ending in the original 26 EP format.
>>287722161>cuckedWords have meaning you know
I did not have a problem with the Island,
>>287722097But how does she feel about Jean's meat, though?
>>287722279It's just Anno pushing his own dietary foibles.There's an semi-official doujin (RetroRocket Girl, IIRC) with Sadamoto showing Nadia engaged in passing an enormous "veggie steamer", no doubt inspired by real life events.
>>287723153>There's an semi-official doujin (RetroRocket Girl, IIRC) with Sadamoto showing Nadia engaged in passing an enormous "veggie steamer", no doubt inspired by real life eventsWhat the fuck?
What is the titular secret of blue water?
>>287722872Except Anno didn't have them kiss at the end. And then the douchebag released a director's cut that removes all the "filler," as you put it, and just keeps the sci-fi stuff from the Island Arc. It's pretty soulless, in my opinion.
Should I watch the TV version or the Nautilus movies?
>>287723411TV version, easily.
>>287723321It's magic level technology, basically
>>287723411TV.Skip the africa episodes tho
>has an "electra complex">gets E R O T I C A L L Y electrocuted>twice>name's Electraas expected of the master, sasuga Anno-san!
>>287723947Uhhh isn't she also impregnated by her father figure?
>>287723321ancient super advanced ary... I mean atlantians controlled the world, then collapsed and the survivors split into two factions. one trying to regain power, the other to tear down the leftovers.
Lots of reheated nachos from this show in Evangelion
>>287722097>has a pet lion>is a raging veganLol wut
>>287723105She doesn't even realize what it is when she sees a photo of Jean's penis.
>>287723988don't remember, i saw Nadia two years ago. and forgot to make a thread about it then.
The weirdest part of Nadia is that Sanson (who is 27) is like a father figure to Marie (who is 4 years old). Then at the end after a 13 year time skip it shows 17 year old Marie is getting married to 40 year old Sanson. He likes em young I guess lol.
>>287724168King is vegan too, artificial taurine is a thing
>>287724233You know that thing where rabbits instinctually recognize the shadow of a hawk overhead and try to flee the scene even when they've been raised in captivity and never saw a hawk ever in their lives? I refuse to believe that women wouldn't instinctively recognize a penis.
>>287724128Eva was originally intended to take place in the Nadia universe. Just look at how Electra dresses in the last few episodes.
>>287724383>I refuse to believe that women wouldn't instinctively recognize a penisShe was on to something because she kept pestering Jean to tell her what it was after.
>>287724321it was the style at the time
>>287713099Still have a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that Nadia herself has 1000 tags on danbooru while Grandis has little over 50.
this show really did miss Grandis and Hanson dirty.Grandis ends up right back where she started, high nobility surrounded by male gold diggers.Hanson despite being probably the most powerful and richest man on the earth, is somehow "still looking for a wonderful wife". fucking how?
>>287725150god... i wish i could be her 40year old husband
>90 posts in>Doronjofag still hasn't showed up yet to tell us Grandis, Sanson, Hanson, Team Rocket from Pokemon, and every other goofy gang of 2 men and a woman, all come from YattermanFeels nice to have a thread without resident schizos.
>>287723383Just a myth, it actually wasn't him it's someone else. He isn't credited as having any part in the editing of that compilation film anyway.
>>287712265Oh hey, I am rewatching this series right now.The island arc is bad, but I always watch them because it eventually leads to important shit. The africa arc though is fucking horrible and I usually skip it. I am actually trying to watch them right now and its a struggle. I hated them so much the first time that it like gave me a complex or something. I have been dreading watching those three episodes.
>>287718679Why was King such a chud?
>>287724448In the programme or IRL?
>>287724383Would be keen to see more from super early concepts of both series desu. Nadia used to be a curly haired and more explicitly negro in her original design.
>>287724663Grandis is pure sex
Nadia legs
>>287722279She means that eating meat is spiritually base. You can survive only eating a vegetarian diet and so to eat other animals is debasing.
>>287725150Did she really deserve to end up alone?
>>287724980I think the idea behind Hanson is that he has a lot to choose from now
I love the lore of this anime.
>>287712265>However, the failure of Nadia contributed to Anno falling into a 4 year long depression, which eventually led him to creating Evangelion. So Nadia failing was ultimately good in the long run, because without it, Evangelion may never have been created.no it wasn't, fuck eva
I don't know if there's some kind of base that they both derive from, (well laputa, to an extent), and this is why, but I never see it mentioned how much Nadia and Full metal alchemist share in the backstory and stuff. The philosophers stone even have the same function as the blue water, storing the souls of the citizens of the ancient advanced city destroyed by the main antagonist of the series, which is then used at the end of the series by the father of the protagonists to solve stuff I never hI don't know if im missing some common ancestor but I've never seen it elsewhere and it seems very directly lifted, but the connection surprisingly just never mentioned anywhereI also never found any kind of info saying that's any kind of traditional feature of the philosophers stone, so I mean it's not like that's it either.
Nadia needs a remake.
>>287727384Those animals should feel honoured to become sustenance for a higher being such as myself.Jokes aside, maybe that mentality makes more sense in buddhism and shintoism because people can reincarnate as animals in the former and animals, along with inanimate objects, possess souls in general in the latter.
>>287712265Not just the direction they outsourced the animation to Korea
>>287728706Of course not, she should have been with my great great great grandpa>>287727235LOL
>>287726842The Africa Arc kind of makes Nadia's suicide attempt make sense, in my opinion. Without it, it's like feels weird and out of no where.>I hate myself because . . . because I just do, alright!But in the Africa Arc, even though it's played for laughs, we still see Nadia willing to throw everything she's built with Jean away for a pretty face. It kind of makes you hate her. Then to find out, a couple of episodes later, that she hates herself was sobering.
>>287723153>>287723193https://exhentai.org/g/339749/f2f1b21aec/For you, anon
>>287729006>no Nadia fanservice>probably won't even have her tummy outno thanks
>>287712931Nadia awakens my primal urge to colonize like nobody else.
Is the movie sequel to the series complete ass like its MAL page seems to imply?
>>287731035It's a total filler story that doesn't even touch the general themes of the anime series.
>>287731035A good chunk of it is a clip show and the clip show portion just kind of ends.
I like the musical episode
>>287731083>>287731093A filler movie...that's a new one.
>>287712265If I were to skip the filler, would it affect the last fice epuside at all?
>>287731269don't skip the island arc, the Red Noah episodes are worth it at least
>>287731269Dont skip the island episodes. Skip the fucking awful africa arc.
>>287731269Don't skip the Africa episodes. Nadia cheats on Jean in them.
>>287731338>>287717953
>>287731338>cheatswords have meaning you know
>>287731325>>287731269Which are the africa episodes so I can skip them?
>>28773138532,33,34Honestly, it flows neatly from 31 to 35 anyway.
The island episodes are perfectly fine since they develop the characters and relationship between the two protagonists, I never understood why people complain about those. It's okay to take a break from the major plot like that.The africa episodes are the true filler who don't serve any purpose and actually have OOC stuff (like Nadia dropping Jean for some rando african hunk).
>>28773138532, 33, 34. The last one is a clip show musical episode that is kinda funny in a shitty way though
>>287731385Don't skip them you retard. They're important for Nadia's and Jean's relationship.
>>287731437it doesn't help that several island episodes are pretty QUALITY, the shoestring budget korean animation really shows at times
>>287731437>I never understood why people complain about thoseBecause it lasts for way too long, a good 1/3 of the show is spent there and most of it is just time wasting bullshit. Sure there are good bonding moments between Jean and Nadia but the rest is unbearable useless filler
>>287731385But you'll end up confused as to who Ayerton is because didn't he end up roped in the protagonists' war against Neo Atlantis during the Island Arc that if you go from 31 to 35, you'll ask yourself who is he? (I know, I did that too and I was puzzled as to who Ayerton is when I skipped 32-34).
>>287731970He is reintroduced during the Island arc. All he does during the africa arc is say “jumbo”
>>287731202I like how Jean’s song gets progressively passive aggressive about how Nadia is a bitch.
Grandis, my beloved
Nadia is the kind of DEI I can get behind.
>>287729006why? If you have problem with the filler arc then just skip it. unless your taste is so shit that you genuinely believe modern Nadia anime will look as good as original.
I hated how useless Jean was in the finale when he was so capable the rest of the series.
>>287731970I saw all episodes, and i still don't know the reason for this character. Absolutely pointless character.
>>287733436He, and the island arc are just a pointless and loose nudge and wink at other Jules Verne works.
