What went wrong with this series? The first half was so amazing.
>>287731414>first half great>second half meh at best name an acclaimed shonen this DOESNT apply to.
>>287731497Fire Force
>>287731414Welcome copers and seethers. Sucks that you'll never get over this. Good luck with your circle jerk.
because writing a satisfying ending is 10x harder to do than the initial steps. Still its not THAT bad, nothing like a CSM tier downfall.
>>287731497Easy->shonenNevermind, thats impossible
>>287731414Kenjaku's retarded plan.Should've just kept Sukuna as antagonist.Don't need a 200iq 4d chess master plan, just build up to big bad guy coming back then he comes back and that's it.
>>287731414Abandoned its premise for a gay tournament arc
>>287731414The ending was generally fine, Itadori and Sukuna's last chat was good. Sit down and re-explain why things had to go the way they did chapter was ass
>>287731414You made a lot of threads about this series today, are you ok?Also, killing off the curses
>>287731414It had to answer the questions the first half set up
>Maki got new merch againThe schizo is BTFO again it seem
>>287732293Are you stupid?
>>287731761This. Gege firing the editor and making a Fortnite arc and making the characters people liked pointless killed it
>>287731414Maybe you should read something for adults instead of artificially long cookie cutter battle shonen written by a guy who didn't even want to make it in the first place.
We need to regress to villains being spoiled fags who never threw a punch in their life and whine like a bitch when the Chad MC makes them lose
>>287733931KnY?
>>287731497i would also like to know what you mean by this cuz lowk jjk was a great shonen and it ended really well compared to the other shit shueisha was putting out
>>287731414I genuinely believe this series only got popular through sheer manifestation and will of the author itself. Like, it's so fucking generic, I don't see why it's gotten so popular except for with meme magic
>>287731854>Shit ending is LE FINE>you didn’t liked it because you are an *insert insult, usually incel,manchild,mysoginist or racist*You guys sucks
>>287731497>name an acclaimedacclaimed by who? There are lost of shounen that doesn't apply to but you will just move the goalposts
>>287734053Acclaimed by millions
>>287731497Soul Eater?FMA?
>>287733968the ending was alright. the lead up sucks. the cucking game was a retarded concept that was executed poorly. the first half through shibuya is so much better its unreal.
>>287731497Jobless Reincarnation
>>287734053not even trying to start shit, Im genuinely asking because Im just sick of shonens that turn into trash and want to read something that actually gets better all the way to the end.
>>287734099>the cucking game was a retarded concept that was executed poorly.Sukuna's fight was MUCH worse than Culling Games. It was too fucking long to spend 1/3 of the manga to fight this barebones boss. Worse than original DBZ Namek.
>>287731497Demon Slayer (yes, whatever you think quality was consistent)DevilmanJojoFist of the North StarFMAYYHSoul Eater/Fire force (someone take note of this author)Uhhh.......Uhhh.......
>>287734140>muzan standing still and flailing his arms around for 30 chapters>then finally something interesting happens but it's immediately deus ex machina'd and the series endsnah that last fight was shit but at least the castle was kino.
>>287734140KnY is mindnumbingly boring, averagest of averages. Jojo 1-5 is extremely shitty too
>>287731414>The first half was so amazing.WrongOnly the 2nd 3rd was good
JJK has no personality whatsoever. It reads like a fanfic. Soulless slop. First half of MHA is miles better
>>287731414>What went wrong with this series? The first half was so amazing.The ONLY good arc was Hidden Inventory. It's just not a good manga as a whole. Been a while since I read it, but it's also the least retarded arc.>Fearsome Womb Arc: No comment really, basic shit.>Vs. Mahito Arc: It tried way too hard to be crazy, but came off as cringe. Also whoever that jellyfish kid was, was very annoying, so his death was more amusing than devastating. >Kyoto Goodwill Event Arc: Was alright, that tree monster was pretty cool. Kinda gay how Yuji was doing a bunch of black flashes which are supposed to be "hard as shit" to pull off.>Death Painting Arc: Very forgettable, nothing happens the arc. TLDR is emo kid of the group uses a domain expansion, gay guy with wings attacks the group, Nobara has a "girl boss" speech.>Shibuya Incident Arc: Some cool moments, the start and middle were good, the ending was meh.>Culling Game Arc: This shit is so ass, this is when shit went downhill so fast. Horrible.>Gonna squeeze this one here, those chapters where Maki does her girl boss shit: Shit felt so incredibly forced. I love strong women, truly. But this was so inorganic and felt like it was just made to be like "Listen up ladies! You are strong!!". Felt so cringe. Have to clarify I do respect women.>Why did you like Hidden Inventory?Pretty much did everything right compared to the other arcs in the story. The cast who actually did the fighting were capable so it never felt like bullshit when they did high level shit (Like Yuji spamming black flashes). Pacing was just right. Very important story-wise. Arc was consistent from start to finish. Toji being the best character in the series imo, his impact on the universe of the story is massive, JJK literally wouldn't be the same story at all without him.
>>287734320>Have to clarify I do respect women.LMAO. Go back to r*ddit, please.
>>287731414The author made an all-in fightfag manga like shonentards want and it turns out that's shallow and soulless. A much more interesting direction for JJK would have been for Kenjaku to have broken Tengen's barriers and used idle transfiguration to turn all people into sorcerers and then society worldwide descending into chaos when they find that brooding on their negative emotions allows them to become powerful and curse others. Junpei was like a perfect model for the kinds of issues the series could explore but instead we got the Sukuna Cycle.
>>287734260No, Jojo SIX is extremely shitty. Fuck off Stone ocean faggot
The first half was not that good
>>287734395Haven't read 7,8 or 9 but 6 is better on its own than the whole 1-5. Joseph, Jotaro and Josuke are cool characters but that's it.>parts 1 and 2uninspired generic big bad, feels like a template to build an actual story on top. Zero susbtance.>parts 3 and 4monster of the week ad infinitum, no real plot, big bad feels like another monster of the week>part 5same as parts 3 and 4 but faggier>part 6not saying it's a 10/10 but if 1-5 are like a 4/10 this is like a 6/10. Plot makes it feel less monster of the week-y and the villain is slightly more interesting
>>287734297Probably cause 1st half is mostly just copying from the already popular shounen concepts then "subverting" them:>the inner demon but actually bad and kills people instead of becoming MC's power>team 7 but they actually get along together>urban setting with monsters invisible to regular humans but they end up actually revealing it all to the public>epic fights but people actually gang up instead of having honorable 1v1 fightsIronically the Culling Games is probably its most "original" concept, at least for the shounen side, and its easy to see that its what Gege really wanted to do from the beginning. Unfortunately it also ends up kinda clashing with the earlier parts and you can tell by how 90% of the earlier cast and concepts get dropped.>Curses are no longer the main enemies and treated as just jokes>Kyoto students are either weak as fuck or killed off>MC's team is sealed/coma/possessed leaving just him>there's no longer any secrecy but barely any actual changes to the story happen by it>the higher ups and clans are either killed or just rendered useless>inner demon goes from being a mass murderer psycho who wants to kill everyone to being someone who will spare you if you leave him alone or entertain him in a fight
>>287734471Also world building is terrible. The whole school system, clan shit, tengen barrier... feels like a small club, smaller than it should be yet contrived in a big bureaucratic entity way. Feels off and throws you off. Only the power system is more or less well though-out although it could use more trimming, it has too much fluff. Naruto is the same, okay-ish power system but shit worldbuilding. Both waste the potential of their respective settings.
>second hand embarrassment
>>287734320>Cringe>Gay >Girl boss>Divides everything into arcsWay to out yourself
>>287734471I’m kinda sad to agree with this.People like me like the first half because it was gege playing well with older troupes with that bit of subversion keeping them fresh.People in fact expected gege to fully commit and expand said parts later on, alongside the cast that he set in good starting point for development.But than he goes back into his original idea, ditches all the cast and any kind of potential the story had to pull his own bullshits.People genuinelly wanted to see Yuji’s, megumi and nobara’s growth, the exploration of the setting and the clans, the evolution of the cast etc..It was a mistake, he should’ve just expanded what people loved from the first half instead of going with Cursed Fortnite and a bunch of useless filler characters and an underwealming conclusion (and a shit sequel that officially nuked the setting)
>>287731414the first half was pretty meh too. You probably watched the anime that pumped money into it.
>>287734619Nta but seriously I really thought we would follow the trio and gojo collecting the Sukuna's fingers while other curses/sorcerers get introduced as well as the characters from the other clans. Also Toji should have lived more, we never got Toji vs Sukuna JJK as a whole is a fucking potential wasted because of the massive shit taste of the author, seriously gege, you are too fucking old for Fortnite
>>287734619Gege was retarded, just make your original ideas into a spin off or something and don't force the current one into something it was never designed as such
>>287731497Yu-gi-oh only improves the further along it goes, Kazuki Takahashi was a total anomaly in jump looking back
>>287734297all of MHA is better than this uninspired dreck
>>287731414Jujutsu Transen
>>287731414>The first half was so amazing.Except it wasnt? The cope jjkfags had back in the day was telling people to pull through the dogshit start until hidden inventory and shibuya, and those two were also pretty average leaning on bad. Without the covid new wave of anime normalfag "fans" this shit would have been buried already after the spin off with the ayylmaos ended.
>>287731414Nothing, you're just retarded
>>287731497people going to disagree because it had a couple mediocre arcs but... One Piece>>287734140YYH final arc was complete garbage, especially considering Dark Tournament is peak anime it is not an exception
>>287733973because shonen fags like me are dying for a new fight fag anime and JJK was the closest thing to it
>>287734297MHA is absolutely cringe with terrible character designs and lame characters, completely lacks the rule of cool which is probably why you couple fags say its good because you don't get "cool"
>>287734320>have to clarify I do respect womenwhere do you think you are, like we're going to invalidate your opinion because of perceived misogyny
>>287735169>MHA lacks rule of cool>Unlike JJKYeah sure man a couple cringe angsty teens + donut steel OC teacher are cooler than literal superman
>>287735230people loved Naruto and Bleach for "angsty teens", and lmao at "literal superman" as if people haven't been saying superman isn't cool for years now
https://youtu.be/c_ZeLSmdSx0?si=oHPrO1QQoVp2PdFP2 hours left for modulo sequel
>>287735230That's right
>>287731497most non battle shonen and fma
>>287735274You are not ready for Yuko's epilogue
You are not ready for EVILgumi epilogue
Only part I liked in JJK was 0. Everything else was just bad
CHADta won.
>>287735344>>287735448Nah yuta sucks
>>287735448Why is the 12 year old and jane juliet missing from his harem?
>>287731414The trend continues. If the OP image is the ant size vol.1 cover of JJK with some generic negative statement, you can be sure the thread will be shitpost central full of bait statements, pitting series against series and one liners that try to incite lengthy responses.
>>287731497Most JoJo parts
>>287735279>>287735448>>287735769Gege stop recycling Western crap.We won’t Rike Yuta
>>287731414Introducing Todo where fights became some slog sounding like a repair job and repetitive motivation speechesKicking Nobara out of the actionBinding vows being some do all which were some ridiculous check Gege could never cash for SukunaLetting Gojo fight Sukuna 1v1 when he should have an idea of how stupid Mahoraga actually isMahoraga existing to begin withEven if all that was addressed though JJK was really never interesting. It got brutal with its characters sometimes but unironically theres deeper characterization and powers in shit like Dragonball and Jojo.
Culling Games was more creative and interesting than anything else in JJK so far, as an anime only
>>287731414he fured his editor
>>287735935>t.yutaslurper
>>287734535>>287734535>When a grandpa tries to look cool
>>287734094>FMA?I didn't like father
>>287734320>Vs. Mahito Arc: It tried way too hard to be crazy, but came off as cringe"It is a bad series because I have shit taste"
>>287731414Because there is effectively no actual story to be told other than fighting faggotry and short bursts of forced le emotional drama after Hidden Inventory Arc. Shibuya arc is like the payoff for a lot of arcs build up and then Gege had no more fucking idea what to do. Gege couldn't even commit to be a tragedy shonen at the end.
>>287736105>Gege couldn't even commit to be a tragedy shonen at the end.>le berserk>is... LE DEEP>le suffering>kino...
>>287736105Yep that's exactly the same reason why Naruto is so shit. There's genuinely nothing happening. It's slice of life with nonsensical fights sprinkled on top.
>>287731414It's fine.
>>287736124It wouldn't be deep but it would still be better than the backpedalling and half-assing crap that we got
what's up with gege and his obsession with drawing dudes with girly hairstyles and/or giving them girly names?
>>287731524Became nonsensical schizo shit in the end
>>287736124>damn, Gege actually had the balls to kill the female lead>sike, she was actually in a coma and no one told the MC about it for some reason, also conveniently wakes up just when the big bad is weak enough for her technique to hurt him
>>287734471This. The first and second half just don't mesh with each other. The editors may have been keeping Gege on a leash until Culling Games which fucked things up but I'll still fault Gege for putting his head down and barrel forward with his original idea instead of trying to integrate all the stuff from the first half into the story.
>>287731414The tournament arc is great and Mai is my waifu.Everything's great until Butcher starts killing everyone except the main character.
>>287731497Getter Robo Go. Goes from cool to amazing.
>>287731497So what's the opposite, where it starts off meh, but has an amazing second half and ending?
30 minutes left to see Yuko again
You now realize that despite having an arc called "Culling Games", none of the good guys side actually died during it. Yaga and Mai were killed before the arc formally started while Tsumiki was closer to being a civilian and you could argue was already long dead.
>>287731414I think Gege got bored and/or ran out of ideas
>>287736029I thought the guys yuji and megumi fought were cool and funny. More soulful than the random generic demon villains up until now
>>287736423He didn't actually have an ideas to start with
>>287736450Uh, Culling Games?
>>287736459>what if some ancient dude made a tournament for no reason and some random inconsequential bullshit characters randomly appearedGege just writes low effort bullshit
>>287731497Kenshin
>>287736483It's so fucking bad, imagine wasting the ideas the editor gave to you like this, ungrateful prick
>>287734471>Culling Games is probably its most "original" conceptThat's just his way of copying those Naruto fights where old hokages were brought back to life
>>287731414The first third was boring and generic, everything else is way better starting from Hidden Inventory.
>>287736532Jujutsu Kaisen is so braindead that it goes full circle and turns soul again, especially after Shibuya where Gege completely gave up trying to do anything serious with the story
>>287736573>completely gave up trying to do anything serious with the storyWhat was all that zenin shit that, and what's with killing the principle guy. Felt like that was a story that was going somewhere, until it was completely dropped
>>287736614It was just an excuse for more hype and aura, that Maki episode was one of the best episodes in the series though, in terms of hype and aura at least.
>>287736232>not a 100% chance
>>287736630What's so hype about some old fag killing a principle guy. Wasn't important to the story at all, wasn't cool, what was that
JJK is nothing more than a fanfiction of 20 of Gege's favorite manga, novels and movies. It's fun but don't take it too seriously.
>>287736659>don't take it too seriouslyWe don't have any other big battle shonens though. Is KGB supposed to carry this entire genre? It's even shittier than JJK how did we end up here, how did the most popular genre end up dead
>>287736682I've never read KGB so I won't compare it to anything. I was only talking about JJK itself and about how Gege came up with it. Right now the most recent manga I'm reading is Ichi the Witch, and only because of Desscaras.
>>287731497CSM Part 1.
>>287736652I have no idea what that scene was even for or about, who even was the principle guy, dude was in like one scene, JJK writing is terrible
Ioribros... we won!
>>287736774>Part 1Thanks for proving him right then.
>future appearance of "that character"Whomst
MEGUMICHADS WE FUCKING WONSEQUEL ABOUT MEGUMI SOON
>>287736844Sasuke
ARE WE GETTIGN AN ANSWER AS TO WHY MEGUMI SOMEHOW KNOWS HOW TO TURN THINGS INTO CURSED OBJECTS?!
>>287736841Part 1 has its own finale and tells a complete story that really didn't need a "sequel".
>>287736856>Implying it's not YUKO
>>287736844You're not ready for the Yuko chapter.
>>287733836If anything, Sekuan killed WAAAY too many people.Pretty much EVERYONE survived getting diced by Sekuna. Some characters survived multiple you-should-be-dead scenarios with no real explanation.
>>287736974If it is Yuko and not Megumi it's gonna be fucking hilarious.KEK
Gege did remember Megumi, that's nice
>>287736856If you're a Japanese reader, you probably bet on Megumi alive based on the conversation between Kozo and Nobara in the final chapterIt was difficult for foreigners to grasp that subtle nuance
>>287737056Iwasaki really has nothing else to draw, huh?
Gojo vs Sukuna was a good fight and well written.
>>287736856Ok, but why did he NOT show up at all when he was alive?
>>287737077Yeah, the subtle nuance of Gege’s shit writing
>>287736856Isn't this bad? Megumi being alive makes a lot of events in Modulo weird.
Wouldn't it be Iori? Did people forget about him?
>>287737102Modulo new characters fuckin suck, only good one is Dabura and he got sent to his planet
Give me ONE good reason why Megumi couldn't inherit Sukuna's shrine and his proficiency in Jujutsu like Yuji
>>287736974I would actually murder gege irl
>>287737256He doesn't want to be strong. that's kinda been his entire weakness from the start. It's why he's infamously known as Potential Man
I still don't know what a Cursed Womb Death Painting is
>>287737168I hate modulo, but i don’t really see how him being dead or not would change things.Nothing implies 10S cannot have more users alive in the same era unlike 6 Eyes limitless user.If it is for not having him summoning makora instead of Yuka, even then it can be answered by having his own Makora been permanently killed by Gojo back in shijuku , since that was the tamed Makora .So an alive oldgumi won’t be useful in that retarded duel, unless they just wanted a frail 80 yo to summons dogs at dabura
>>287737282It's not optional, he would get it whether he wanted it or not
>>287737194To be precise, there was indeed a scene where Iori appearedBesides, normally no one would bother following up on him—he’s just a meme character
>>287737306It does change a lot of things. Why in the world is Yuji acting such a bum if Megumi wasn't the first one to go? And he wasn't there for the duel if the only thing they needed for a backup option was Mahoraga which he still has
>villain literally got fucked in his pussy for years in order to create Yuji the perfect vessel for Sukuna>Sukuna just ditches Yuji for a guy he met completely by accident insteadAm I missing something or is this story retarded
Assume he's aliveWhere was he this entire time?
>>287737306Also a 80 year old guy would still likely outlive Yuka who only had three months to live>>287737333Once Dabura figured out how Mahoraga's powers worked a backup is useless since he would just oneshot it
>>287737336Sukuna could only revive in Yuji, after that he's free to move to anyone with the potential to withstand being his host. And yes it's kinda retarded.
I actually prefer if Megumi stayed dead. I don't hate him. I just think it makes Yuji's situation looked even worse than it already did Because>HanaReally? that was his trigger?
Megumi about to find the reincarnation of Sukuna *prays*
Miyaguni? Megumi's descendant.
>DBZ aliensHUGE POWER LEAP, A NEXT LEVEL THREAT TO BE CONQUERED BY OUR FUARKING HEROES>Naruto aliensLITERAL GODS THREATENING THE VERY EXISTENCE OF OUR FUARKING HEROES>One Piece aliensANCIENT RACE OF MOON BEINGS THAT PROBABLY SPAWNED ALL CIVILIZATION ON EARTH WHERE OUR FUARKING HEROES LIVE>JJK aliensCreepy refugees that would get one shot by literally anyone in the Sukuna fight
Just a reminderWhoever gets athe epilogue will be the next manga like how Panda's epilogue has Yuka and Tsurugi
I think it might be Todo. He's mentioned but was never shown in person. And Yuji did say he was going to meet him
>they're still expecting a meaningful continuationUmm sweaties we have an alien race that can literally delete curses from existence now, there will never be a real story in a JJK setting again. This is just a little cameo chapter
>>287731497Zatch Bell
Gege wouldn't save him for the bonus chap just to humiliate him again r-right?
>>287737256He plays baseball for a team win rather than a home run
>>287737333> backup option was Mahoraga which he still hasAgain, i don’t think Oldgumi (or just megumi post-shinjuku) has Makora anymore. It got killed in its tamed form and so , according to 10S rules, usually the shikigami is gone for good .Gaygay also said that “if makora is killed the whole technique is gone” too…but yet we saw megumi later summoning the dog in the epilogue…so mistranslation? Him being an hack? Who know.Now , Megumi being the reason for Yuji to ditch everything THAT’S A GOOD POINT.I completely forgot about it for how bad everything about Modulo is for me once the Nigga moment and the duel started.At very least magumi being the reason would make more sense than fucking Hana!
I really don't want a sequel for Modulo. The epilogue stuff better be an interquel rather than a sequel
In other words, if there are any future developments, we can expect an interquel featuring Megumi
>>287737582>Gaygay also said that “if makora is killed the whole technique is gone” too…but yet we saw megumi later summoning the dog in the epilogue…so mistranslation? Him being an hack? Who know.Different copies of the technique, different shikigami
If Megumi is alive this whole plot, why did he not bother with Yuji and Nobara anymore? they literally are the reason he's still alive
>>287737547Unironically FATgumi would be Megumi’s happy ending>fat and clearly old but happy>surrounded by people he cares about>got a retarded 10/10 angel wife (anime form, manga form sucks)>has probably good money to not live a miserable and poor existence>he is actually smiling in the pictureSo 100% gege is not giving him this ending
>>287737630If Yuji is alive this whole plot, why didn't he fight the aliens?stop thinking bro
The bonus chapter is actually a midquel that depicts megumi's last moments as he gets killed by a grade 3 curse
>>287737256He could
>>287737603Is not really explored or explained if Sukuna’s copies are considered different versions or the same version megumi has since he is literally hijacking his own body and technique.All we got was the shikigamis being more twisted and perverted , which might as well be an effect of Sukuna toying around with the totalities rather than them being considered different copies.It is all really really iffy on purpose, gege is a master to NOT EXPLAINING A SINGLE CRAP.
>>287737698The meta reason is probably Gege just wanted Megumi to keep his shadows (and therefore his potential) and didn’t think too much about it, so neither should the reader.
Megumi appeared in chapter 1 alongside Gojo and the others, I don't think he qualifies for that statement either
>>287735935Culling Games is my second favorite arc with hidden inventory as first. Sukuna fight was cancer, on the other hand. He's just absolutely dogshit as antagonist.
>>287737056You think gege regretted making raga untamable? He looks quite badass as Yuka's pokeman.
>>287737809If we considered any form of cameo as not fitting that statementKenjaku might be the one. He was neither shown nor mentioned
>>287737336Because Megumi is his natural host. he could sense the fingers energy, and had a reaction to him since the beginning while other people didn't get that.Because megumi was his host in the actual pilot/outline story, JJ Sousen, and the plot was about the culling games from day 1.
>>287737882>>287737809Those weren't appearances, it was just a past flashback, I think he means people who actual have scenes. I think it's Todo who got mentioned will help but didn't appear yet.
>>287737336According to fujostacies Sukuna's mother was a Zenin
>>287737969>>287737901So why did the villain decide to get fucked in his pussy for many years instead of just using Megumi or another Zenin
>>287738011He had no idea Megumi could be a vessel. Remember there's like 99% chance of dying and nothing happens for this.>>287737969does that mean sukuna reincarnation has to come from tsurugi and/or yuka?
Nobody else from modulo got added to the Zenin bloodline special cards, this means that Megumi really didn't have children, or weren't in modulo he is (all those theories background characters were 'secretly the kids of such and such character" was funny as hell).
>>287738160anon, why would the announcement have characters that haven't existed? This agenda stuff is really tiring
>>287738011I already explained it because Megumi was the oriinal mc and Sukuna's vessel and Yuji was one of his normalfag best friends who randomly awakes as sorceror (punch and kick) by the phenomena guiding the culing games. Yuji was supposed to die to Choso.
>>287738108>He had no idea Megumi could be a vesselHe knew exactly how to give birth to a vessel but he didn't know that Zenins can be vessels too? Very selective knowledge
>>287738173It means Miyaguni, glasses girl, and others aren't Megumi's descendants.
>>287738198That's not an explanation, that's just you saying that Gege is a hack
>>287734471this is why i always call JJK a love letter to the shonen genre, it's like an ESL read an anime wiki of 5 different shows and then had to recall the plots and characters. JJK is allowed to be loved, but it's entire skeleton has been done before it's just new flesh atop it
>>287738227Again, you're really trying too hard to make slander for Megumi >glasses girlShoko and Ijichi
>>287738160I'm not sure where you're getting at. Yuka and Tsurugi are directly from a zenin which is Maki. Of course they get added. No one else got their parentage revealed
Is Nobara a cat lady now
>>287738160most retarded post ITT
>>287738108Maybe Yuka cross or Dabura/chef
Babykuna soon
>>287736347>JJK and CSM becoming shit because they allowed their mangaka to ignore their editors
>check jjkfolk>It's gojo!!!Seriously?
>>287735144I see. Aren't there a billion other fighting shonens out there?
>>287737056gege art it's dogshit
What's with Gege obsession with Toji?
>>287738343If the fujos are correct that Sukuna's mom was related to Zenin, it only leaves Yuka to carry on the bloodline because Tsurugi is mega gay.
>>287738832Why are you assuming Maru the alien gender. Maybe alien makes can get pregnant
>nobody argues maru and tsurugi being gay unlike other mcs generation coupleskek.
>>287738923There's no heterosexual explanation for that fuckass look Maru gave Tsurugi when they held hands. Also there's a lack of random girl attached to them. Yuka has Cross.
>>287738893This their baby materializes from a third eye beam.
Babykuna will have horns like his father Dabura and he will posses Megumi, giving us the original jjk
>>287736856The bonus manga will be a flashbacn about Megumi in his 20s, he will look hot and will make out with Yuji for 10 pages in a row.
>>287737336>not knowing the lore about how Gege originally had Megumi as MC for JJK and was the one with Sukuna instead
>>287731414I appealed to actual children with flashy effects and low IQ plots. Then tried to slip in some dumbass morals leaning liberal but could even get them to be accepted by the audience. Total failure long term.
>>287739260Aw hell naw, fujosisIt will be about prime CHADji and prime STACYbara banging after Megumi and Hana's wedding
>>287739337Holy ESL
>>287738243It's if a shonen manga fanboy added weird shojo/yaoi manga scenes right between intense fight scenes just because his favorite manga also did that.
Yuko is the key
>>287739401>It will be about prime CHADji and prime Megumi fucking after their wedding while Nobara and Hana watchFIFY
>>287739491My heroes are straight
>>287739531Straight up GAY for each other, yes.
>>287739550Cope
>>287739581No need to cope for anything. My favorite characters died before being included in that trash fire called Jujutsu Kaisen Modulo. I won.
>Nobara x Yuji>Cross x Yuka>Gojo x Utahime>Choso x YukiThis series actually has some pretty good straight ships, and then every single fanfic is some OOC yaoi bullshit
>>287739772>Gojo x UtahimeB-b-but Gege said Utahime hates Gojo
>>287739772>Gojo x Utahime
>>287739823>>287739828Reminder that the two of them trust each other completely and immediately agree to cooperate the moment gojo gets serious, regardless of teasing.
Nothing. I've come full round to understanding that Gege is a really good writer.
>>287739855He consistently fumbles his endings, and has a hard time improvising without an editor to focus his vision
New Gege art merchZenin clan to be specific. I wonder why
>Megumi was the keyAPOLOGIZEFUCKINGAPOLOGIZE
>>287739877He fumbled Modulo but that's because it shouldn't have even been made in the first place or, at very least, not be limited to 30 chapters.The main series, despite having been rushed, was fine.
>>287739275see>>287738237
>>287739846Yes it's called doing the job you're oaid for as oer your conrract and interacting with your coworkers to do basic tasks. Are you jobless? Or do you think the Coldplay incident with the CEO cheating on his wife and taking his HR director mistress to a concert is a normal occurence?
>>287739897I want Toji to breastfeed me.
>>287737969Absolute Cope
>>287739926Yeah it was fine, but there was a steep quality drop off after shibuya where the whole story felt disparate and unfocused.It's basically only when they got back to shinjuku that the plot threads actually came together in a way that seemed intended and coherent
>>287739972No one was paying either of them to investigate the traitor - gojo was the only one who even suspected anything. Both of them performed that investigation outside of their normal work function and Utahime continued to cooperate with gojo even after attempting to unseal him became a crime>do you think the Coldplay incident with the CEO cheating on his wife and taking his HR director mistress to a concert is a normal occurence?Isn't that the exact opposite of what you're claiming, anon? You'd just say that going to a concert and sucking your boss' dick is just a normal part of a 9-5
>>287737298An hybrid between sorcerers and curses.Since they were part Kamo, they had basically infinite blood, since the Kamo have control over their blood by way of their CE, to the point that they are interchangeable.They also have heightened physical prowess. You could argue that Yuji, without CE reinforcement, is almost at Toji/Maki level.
>>287737256Time and Megumi's soul might have been incompatible with Sukuna's technique.Yuji is, after all, a descendant of Sukuna's bloodline.
Ill humour the thought. If Megumi is alive, that means he ignored>Yuji's suffering of being immortal>The 10S ban>The duel picking Yuka meaning Megumi was out of reach or hard to acquire
New art for Yuji and Mahito
>>287739972>do you think the Coldplay incident with the CEO cheating on his wife and taking his HR director mistress to a concert is a normal occurence?Yes that happens all the time. My team lead IRL ended up marrying a girl on his team, that's how the world goes around buddy. The only people getting cancelled for that stuff are the ugly ones, just don't be ugly
>>287740011The world was about to be expanded to international waters during the Culling Game with Geto making a deal with the US government but there is no way to know whose idea was that.Gege didn't seem to want JJK to go on for much longer and a plot line like that could easily add a few hundred chapters.Who knows who decided to scrap that, Gege or the editors. I'd bet on Gege, but it held so much promise that I don't believe the editors came up with it.
>>287740147Are you dumb? The case I talked about was about married people cheating on their spouses to date each other, it's more extreme than what you're talking about. In Gojo and Utahime's case, Gojo doesn't give a fuck about her, and if Utahime could kill him she would have done that already. I bet she cried tears of joy when Sukuna cut him in half. Hating your coworkers is at least just as common if not more common than marrying your coworkers anyway.
We are going to see how fat baldgumi killed Hana because she was fucking Yuji
>>287739877>without an editor to focus his visionLike 90% of the industry
>>287740222You think cheating isn't normal lmao? I'd say in almost every married couple someone cheats at least once
>>287740222Holy autism
It'll be Megumi reveal with stitches on his forehead
Megumi reveal, he trooned out
Apparently, checking on "those" sites. It's between Megumi or Iori.
>IoriWhy bother? Conflict is already done and future gens will just be Tojis and Makis.
We actually saw Iori though, its a flashback but should still count.
>Future Megumi reveal>He's still physically 16yrs oldYour reaction?
>>287734140>Fist of the North Star>YYH>Soul Eater/Fire force
NEW MARU VS TSURUGI ILLUSTRATION BY YUJI IWASAKI FOR JJK MODULO!!!
>>287734140>Demon Slayer (yes, whatever you think quality was consistent)Consistently mid yes>Devilman The manga jumps around so much that it doesn't have a consistent quality measure >JojoPart 5 and 6 are incredibly inconsistent >Fist of the North StarEverything after Raoh is a mix bag and the last arc is just a badly done Spanish soap opera>YYHHuge quality drop after Dark Tournament and the ending is garbage >Soul Eater/Fire ForceBecomes a directionless mess after Ebon and FF had no direction whatsoever
Iori already appeared though? And by the wording. It's someone who wasn't in Modulo at all.
>>287734094>>287734140>Soul EatetI genuinely believe people who bring this series up never read it
>>287740335with stitches on his head
>>287731497MHA. The fact that /a/ relentlessly seethe that they can shitpost about the ending anymore is hysterical
>>287740474YYH's last arc was so bad I'm still traumatized 20 years after watching it. I heard it's even worse in the manga.
>>287740657>can*can't
>>287740740Wow people usually dick ride the anime for "improving" it by ending it before the last arc
>>287740534Gege is trying too hard to convince everyone that Tsurugi is the Okkotsu sibling that matters after everyone ignored him
>>287740534Nobody cares about them, not even the fujos
>>287731497SteelBallRun
>>287741035I never read the manga, just watched the anime on tv back when I was way younger one episode a day so I don't have the manga as a reference for if the last arc is better or worse. I hated that Kuwabara wasn't there, I hated that the ugly old fart who's Yusuke's ancestor hijacked the very end of the fight between Yusuke and Sensui, and the only thing I liked about the last arc was Mukuro. If the manga is even worse I don't even want to know what it's like.
>>287741074Gege saw that Yuka was more popular and was too sexist to just focus on her the whole time.
>>287735121Honestly, I still don’t get what the hell people see in YYH Dark Tournament. Younger Toguro is the living embodiment of the aura farming meme, he let himself get humiliated in his first appearance and then just stood there watching doing nothing till the final battle. The fights are the very definition of what you imagine when you think of a shonen battle, you can’t criticize stuff like Dragon Ball and then go on to praise this. The territories are way more interesting, even though they were horribly underutilized. Maybe it’s because I just watched YYH two years ago and don’t have the nostalgia factor, I really loved the main cast tho
>>287739772>Gojo x UtahimeStop sneaking this shit. Neither give a SHIT about each other.
>>287740174>The world was about to be expanded to international waters during the Culling Game with Geto making a deal with the US government but there is no way to know whose idea was that.They clearly didn't have any idea of sorcery, and that was obviously paid off with the soldier's deaths during the culling games.I don't know why people ever expected that to go in any other direction
>>287739897It's promoted as 'Zenin Bloodline' not clan. Probably because post Modulo generation, only relevant people are those born from families who have heavenly retricted relatives? Meaning Yuka and Tsurugi offspring.
>>287740142Yuji looks good
When will the Megumi chapter leak? This Thursday?
>>287740284>almost every married coupleAround 1/5 admit to it. I'd be surprised if it was more than half
>>287741108Wrong. I've seen plenty of art in Jp side.
This youngkuna looks good
>Anons ITT still coping that Gojo and Utahime didn't have sweaty hate sex
>>287741561Gojo isn't into women.
>>287741561Gojo is unironically gay. He didn't even think about her when he was dying. He literal song Gege picked is about being in love with a bad man.He just can't admit he's MEGA HYPER GAY baiting girls because his fanbase is huge, his publisher might kill him. If was for a throwaway random like Hakari it's ok.
I think Gege drops hints when Shounen Jump isn't looking, like how he tells in Valentines Girls (specificially) shouldn't waste their time with Gojo, when he spoke in gender neutral or both genders on other Valentine entries (like Nobara's).
>>287731414First half didn't have yuta>LovedSecond half had yuta>DowngradedSuch a mystery
>>287740534>Bro I'm 17, I shouldn't be deciding on intergalactic geopoloticsThat was funny.
>>287741729But I liked most Yuta parts except the Gojo body hijack.It was the Hakari parts that were just a stupid waste of time. It pissed me off how they cut Panda's reaction to his father's death to that sidequest.
>>287741758Yuta is a waste of time.
>>287736644100% cheapens the story though
>>287736232>she was actually in a coma and no one told the MC about it for some reasonLess that no one told him but more that she was just not mentioned at all. I've been saying it from the start, she didn't die and it's just being primed for a comeback. I will forever laugh at those that did think she did.
>>287741607>>287741650https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqPkcjQXUHk
>>287738832>gege sneaky making sure everything is connected to Maki and Yuta in a way or another>maki and yuta becomes the de facto alpha and omega of JJK and no one else matter beside their familiesKek , i can see the spiteful cat pulling this kind of shit
>>287741677He learned this from Clamp and even copied a scene from one of their manga and made it happen between Gojo and Geto.
Why are yurifags hating on YutaMaki pairing again? I don't care about it but it's so innocous.
>>287742171Please lord don't let Megumi chapter be about wanking yutamaki
>>287742184Nobamaki is the gojohime of the woke crowd.
>>287741905I don't think nobara dying or not dying really changes the impact of shibuya on his character or the main plot.The story would have been better if she had been around earlier and improved as a sorcerer, but it's not like gege couldn't have written an out for yuji if she'd been dead
>>287742184>why do shippers hate of their ship being decidedly shot downMystery for the ages.
>>287742236But Nobamaki is cringe, one sided and not canon at all
>>287742226YOU WILL RIKE MAKI AND YUTANO MATTER WHAT!
>>287742266Yeah. Their fans are so annoying that it made me defend Yuta/Maki. They keep spitting Yuta was as a 'fantasy that you can fix a broken woman' like it's this shit why people mock jjk fans of never reading anything. Yuta looks up Maki.
>>287734117Undead Unluck
>>287742226>megumi chapterWhere is this even stated. It's just an epilogue where a character who didn't appear will not that the chapter will be about them.Could literally be an afterword and Todo is around because he didn't appear.
>>287742386>Megumi on the cover>Won't mention him stillIs Gege that funny of a person?
>>287742386People are just jumping to conclusions because he didn't show up during Modulo
>>287736856Takaba and Kenjakubros.....WE WON!
>>287736856Sukunafags, we might have a chance
>>287742386Nah bro we're getting a Megumi spin off next
>>287742491>>Megumi on the coverThat's not a cover, it's a special merch stuff for zenin bloodline for the fes bro.
Would people actually read a JJK spinoff focusing on Megumi? Isn't he like the most hated character in the series?
>>287742580Oh. Then this >>287742563 might actually be true then.>Didn't Maru draw him though?Shhhhhh>>287742598Frankly, it'd just mean more JJK so I'll read it.
>>287742567>Trust me bro
>>287742374I liked it ….but lets be real.The final arc is a let down for how the mangaka was forced to rush it out.Not his fault since it is so blatant the Hax was forced upon him, but its impossible to deny it being rushed
I tried reading kagurabuchi after so many people shilled it here and man it really just isn't that good.It's totally inoffensive, and I really have no idea of what the mechanics of the magic system are when the author constantly changes his mind about what they can do.It's actually incredible how much goodwill I have for gege immediately pausing his story after "cursed womb must die" to lecture the audience on how cursed energy, techniques and domains work before continuing the story.
>>287734140>Demon SlayerThat shit is hard carried by Ufotable's animation. The story isn't bad but it's basic as fuck. >JojoJojo isn't known for having good writing. It's overall pretty okay but the occiansal kino moments
>>287742668>Jojo isn't known for having good writing
>>287742598The reason he’s hated is precisely because he turned into a helpless damsel in distress throughout the entire final arc, people expected far more from him
>>287740657based
>>287734140>JojoBecause all of it is bad?
>>287742677You really think shit like "same type of stand" is good writing?
>>287742701Everybody and their retarded mother shill its writing, especially now with Steel Ball Run being animated
>>287742563Chef san is pregnant
>>287731414>The first half was so amazingI went into this series completely blind and thought that it was a parody of lazy shonen tropes like One Punch Man.The MC is an unremarkable nobody lacking any personality who does nothing until his grandpa tells him he's a good boy and should be nice to people and then buffoons his way into being a central plot figure.I stuck around and watched all of season 1 but I can honestly barely tell you what happened in it other than just roughly 5 key plot points because it's so forgettable, and I can pretty much recite all series I enjoy from memory.The awful MC aside, the setting could've had potential, which makes the series' mediocrity sting even more.I have no idea why this series even took off other than fujos lusting after the male characters and it becoming popular among the meme obsessed ironic weeb audience, which sadly makes up most of anime's consumer base now and has for years now.
>>287743100>setting could've had potentialthe fuck are you yapping about, the setting is the worst part. It's literally Bleach except soul society doesn't even exist
>>287743100>who does nothing until his grandpa tells him he's a good boyThis happens like the first chapter, what was he supposed to do?
>>287743204Only that continues going forward, the MC is not an active participant in the story, just a passenger in it and is overshadowed by both the supporting characters and antagonists.
>>287743295I mean, it was part of his journey and development.People rightfully expected post-shibuya to be his turning point and him. Taking over the plot as an active participant after all the crap that impacted on him.
>>287743295Eh, not any worse than a normal shonen protag. He does actively opt in to the finger chomping thing and does so until the story kicks into high gear and now there's other problems that crops up. Can't really think of MCs that aren't largely reactionary desu.
>>287742598He tops or near tops every popularity poll
>>287743456>Can't really think of MCs that aren't largely reactionary desuNaruto
>>287743517Alright, I'll give that to you but only pre Shippuden.
Sukuna's ass is fucking massive
>>287743100>unremarkable nobody lacking any personalityLolLmao even
>>287731414The fights are hype as fuck but the power system especially later on kinda suffers from "show don't tell". Maybe it's the shit translation but I had re-read pages just to understand what the fuck the character is doing because they explained it in the weirdest way possible. You shouldn't have characters/narrator explaining everything in the final arc.
>>287734320>>287734471Its more that a lack of worldbuilding means the actors entering the stage from left in new costumes is bothersome. this is not the "have groups photos with enough elements so you can retrcon in things later" problem, this is by the third time you have a group photo of randoms there is not enough symbology for any of the group photos to be related. It meant until you got the final arc, more and more random characters and organizations would show up. What I will give it is that the post finale dogpile was interesting as an idea, but it just kept dragging on and nobody died.Also the pacing is fucking shit.
>>2877344696 isnt better than anything you dumb ass.
Just saw the leaksIt's a todo chapter
>>287742733I meant actual fans not retarded normalfags. If you go into Jojo expecting good writing, you're gonna be disappointed. It's motw slop
>>287743795>It's just him waxing poetic at Taka-chan's funeral
>>287742733I always thought JoJo's was better known for Araki's flamboyant art and characters rather than his writing. Nothing about the writing makes it stand out from any other power user battle manga.
>>287742733only with Part 7. I have never seen anyone unironically shill Jojo's writing. It's always been "homoerotic buff men with wacky poses rerorerorero duwang za warudo xd"
Is it me or is there some contract that Gege can't draw the Modulo characters? they're his creation by proxy
O MY BINDING VOW
Wouldn't the epilogue character be Todo? He's the only character that was mentioned to still be alive but was not shown
>>287744095It's between Megumi, Iori, or Todo Reddit firmly believes it's Todo since they really love him while they absolutely hate Megumi
>>287744095Depends on how slim your definition is since he was "shown" of sorts.
>>287744166Right, I forgot Reddit loves dudebro characters. It's the same shit with Piratefolk having Franky as one of their most favorite characters despite he's far by the least popular strawhat elsewhere
>>287744095>>287744166>>287744188Technically, all three "appeared" in Modulo so it's someone who neither >Have a mention by word>Nor a drawing
>>287744201It's a male oriented site. Megumi's fanbase is primarily female so it makes sense he's not liked there
>>287744201They like Franky more than they do with Zoro/Luffy/Sanji, they're absolute borked in the head
Kenjaku didn't get a single mention of sorts, right? Maybe it's not over
>>287744201>>287744378to be fair Franky hasn't done much in a few years while Sanji and Zoro are always getting the spotlight somehow
Iori has to come back. Surely his schizo mind about the generation getting weaker would've popped off by now with Yuji and Maru's shenanigans
>>287744418I'd like to say that he was mentioned in some capacity via the Yuta CT connection or just what happened during the culling games. I've got 0 facts to back that up however.
>>287744201Piratefolk is a worse cesspool than Jujutsufolk. You thought Megumi slander was bad? At least he's one of the most popular characters. Ussop is just flat out unloved there.
>>287744551>>287743467You know how biased popularity polls are with Shounenshit. Megumi is the deuteragonist of course he's gonna rank high. That's like saying Yuji is popular
>>287744648>Megumi is the deuteragonist of course he's gonna rank high. That's like saying Yuji is popularI mean, considering how hard he gets hated on, especially during Shinjuku. It warped the perception to a lot of people. that he's unpopular.
>>287744508>iori and two mysterious nobodies that looks menacing >”the true story about curses is soon to begin”>”for a new era of sorcery”>pic relatedSee you all on JUJUTSU KAISEN : OMEGA
>>287744648>>287744698I don't consider agenda faggots real fans. They have zero awareness outside of their slander memes. Fuck, some of them were unironically asking why Megumi even gets new merch.
>>287731497One Piece it remains Kino from start to current date
>>287743295The idiots of this thread are very attached to Yuji as self insert. But you should really watch JJK0 with Yuta as the original mc and the first episodes of next season which have young Gojo as protagonist, and it's obvious how they shit on Yuji in terms of protagonist's presence, they are still butthurt over this.
>>287744781>yutafags spreading lies once again yo hype their precious not-kirito
>>287744698It reminds me how in Kaiju 8. The MC is painfully unpopular despite his Kaiju form is the face of the franchise. Like I recall he ranked 8th with only like 300 votes while the other characters are in the 1000s votes
Megumi is very controversial and has the most fucked up rep but there's really no denying he's still a popular character despite all of that. If you want an actual unpopular deuteragonist, Yuno is right there. The resident gary stu powerscaling god but who in the fuck likes him?
>>287744815Not even a fan of Yuta, he's just a better protagonist than Sukuna's lesser skinsuit. He actually IS written as a protagonist. Gege admitted Yuji wasn't in fucking anime expo. The same goes to Gojo and Geto in the flashback arc. Which you omitted because as expected your insecurity about your self insert must prevailed over valid writing criticism.Reading how Yuji was originally a side character who died early on just gave a sense of framing of how he's writing as if he's just hanging around as an observer instead of a protagonist.
>>287743517He mostly reacts to getting put in squads, being sent on missions, etc.
>>287744885It's like saying Deku is unpopular because of the slander, you have to be actually braindead to think of that.
>>287744781>The idiots of this threadMore like everyone with eyes. Yuji is behind only to Gojo in terms of popularity.
>>287744781I don't care, Yuji will always be better than Yuta
>>287744944Yuta is a boring gary stu who needs gege to literally sideline and don't develop other characters.Even gege knew he needed Yuji for modulo instead of just letting him die
>>287744815Stating Yuji's writing is weak as a protagonist in comparison to two characters from their respective arcs doesn't mean they are fags. It's blatant truth. There is an interview where Gege admitted and apologized for this. Yuji is a cool character, but he is extremely weak as a protagonist because he's always reactive. He never carries the plot or the story. He's more an 'audience surrogate' than the central figure of the story, like Watson is in Sherlock Holmes. Let's bring an example that's not any of them. Maru and Tsurugi being co leads of Modulo. The pacing at the end was terrible, but it's their decisions what are critical to the story plot and conclusion, their backgrounds are pushing things forward, instead of being pushed toward it like happened to Yuji. Again, this isn't Yuji's fault, it's simply Gege's writing fault so those guys criticizing his writing as a protagonist isn't wrong.
>>287744781>Nooo you MUST like this other character!!!
>>287744815I think it's funny it uses Shirou as the model when Shirou share way more similarities with Yuji and this is without factoring in how ironic Archer and Modulo Yuji are parallels of eachother when Suwabe voiced Archer
These threads always devolve into the same MUH REAL MC shit and that's why no one bothers posting
>>287744748Pre timeskip One Piece was a lot better.
>>287745083JJK was nearly axed while Yuta's manga was popular to make JJK happen. Yuji wasn't popular until fujos made him megumi's and gojo's cocksleeve. It was "Geto" being back what made the manga get off the chopping block. Yuji's even a watered down Yuta clone without any of his actual drive to carry the plot. Even starterpack as daddy with secret execution and bound to a royal curse.
>>287745083>Even gege knew he needed Yuji for modulo instead of just letting him dieModulo manga was selling without Yuji, though?
>>287745188remind me who was saving people in the colonies? Not Mr. Depression. Yuji is no Shirou.
>b-but Yuta!!!>b-but Yuji!!I hate all of you
>>287745188Both Yuta and Yuji are too weak-willed bitches to be Shirou.
>thread went to shit
>>287745324God I want to suck his 2 cocks
>>287745218Reminds me of one piece threads, zorofags and sanjifags managed to ruin both the threads the the duo for me
>>287745324I can't wait to see this particular 'kuna with the anime artstyle.
>>287740071Yuji's physical blessing isn't from being a cursed womb death painting, none of the others have superhuman physical strength. He was born with a binding vow that stripped his inherited gravity manipulation technique and replaced it with raw power.
>>287731414>>287731414The Kenjaku and Sukuna were right but the series doesn't actually explore their positions and makes them both out to be wrong and the sequel doubly justified them.
Finally we will see how Megumi killed Hana while he was drunk
>>287731414That cover is iconic
>>287747252Gege wasting Yuji and Mouthkuna will always be sad
>>287731414They killed all the interesting villains.They killed all the interesting heroes.They replaced them with boring villains and boring heroes.They changed the monster-of-the-week formula of teaming up with your bros to take down a big bad in a big cosmopolitan city, to a survival battle royale.They introduced a lot of cool interesting side characters and put them in the shelf to gather cobwebs because the good guys and bad guys kept getting too powerful.The tone of the series also changed. Remember the times when everyone could joke around before, during, and after combat? Remember after the big fight at school, the author knew everyone needed to catch a breath and put in the baseball section so everyone could calm down? There was never another time where characters and the audience could breathe after fight after fight after fight.
>>287747577>The tone of the series also changed. Remember the times when everyone could joke around before, during, and after combat? Remember after the big fight at school, the author knew everyone needed to catch a breath and put in the baseball section so everyone could calm down? There was never another time where characters and the audience could breathe after fight after fight after fight.Because after Shibuya there was no real time for levity, unless you want people just goofing around after Gojo got sealed, a good chunk of the cast is injured or dead and Kenjaku is starting IRL Fortnite.
i draged such a deep onr from my watermelon ice i almos riped ipen the dimensional womb with mh spiritual seizure noclipimg me out the veilhttps://youtu.be/A6ANxBiJdjY?si=f2JJzabYWlKiqQtp
>“It’s Iori!”>“No it’s Megumi!”It’s Takaba
>>287748393It's Sukuna's new family with the fuckboi
>>287745225OP peaks in the end of part 1 and it now peaks again in the end of part 2. Pre-Water7 OP isn't any better than Dressrosa and Punk Hazard, Egghead and Elbaf aren't any worse than Impel Down and Marineford (which is overrated)
>>287745819>...none of the others have superhuman physical strength...Choso defeating Yuji in the bathroom scuffle?Never once in the manga was Yuji's mom technique mentioned as having been passed down to him. Stop headcanon.
>>287748414God I wish
>>287731414Everything wrong begins at Shibuya. Hidden Inventory is the best arc in the other hand.
>>287743934>I have never seen anyone unironically shill Jojo's writing.I do. I don't think Araki has consistently good narratives but I think he's a good character and scenario writer
>>287743934Araki forgot is too much of a meme for people who actually vouch for his writing to stand out. Only Jojolion is guilty of that.
>>287749350Gege was ungrateful by firing the editor who was responsible from becoming rich at a young age
>>287748997Based and kino
Jujutsu kaisen but heterosexual
>>287747577generative AI is really going to hit the key jangling industry hard
>>287748997Sukuna's head always look big, i feel bad for his mother
>>287750101The bugger very likely came out via caesarian. Or killed his mom during the whole process.
>>287731414Geto not even really being Geto sucked. Gojo V Geto would be a much more interesting story than Gojo V Brain Transfer Man. Itadori felt like a side character in his own series, and Akutami kept adding new sorcerers who were the strongest ever like every week
>>287750101>be pregnant for 9 months>starved the whole time during a famine but you still do your best to survive to the best of your ability>endured morning sickness and all the health issues caused by a regular pregnancy>suffered hours while giving birth>the baby is fat, ugly, homosexual and has six limbs like a cockroachPoor mom. She suffered more than Jesus.
>>287750578Lokibros... Sorry wrong manga.
>>287742701How is it bad writing? It's a thematic conclusion to DIO's battle against Joestar's destiny, and he was the one who awoke their stands in the first place. Part 5 was far more asspully than anything that happens in the final battle of Stardust Crusaders.
>>287749350Best arc was the Death Painting arc. It was great
>>287750578>Sukuna>UglyPreposterous. He was the most beautiful baby to ever exist. The world is the one that's ugly
>>287750722I think it is more the “star platinum and The world are the same type of stand” sounds kinda stupid.If Araki just went with “The world’s powers is to have the powers of all the Joestar’s stands, and Jotaro just realized the time stop is his own stand power Dio is stealing from” no one would complain, especially since we have seen Dio using his own variant of Heremit purple (and it is possible to pretend either he never developed Crazy Diamond because josuke was too weak to manifest it at time..or he had it but it was just an ability he found useless for most part since the rest were downright better and healing stuff is not really his interest)
>>287750929Uraume?
>>287731414I don't get what Yuji's development is supposed to amount to. He mumbles about him being like Mahito because they're retards who lack long-term thinking, then he tells Hakari that he's a "cog in a machine" whose sole purpose is to annihilate curses. Is that really it? His development just amounts to being a standard shonen protagonist (good guy who wants to save everyone and beat the baddies)? Sure, he fails to save some jobbers, but that stops mattering entirely after Culling Games outright tells you that Gege won't kill anyone and will drag the pacing with shitty fights.
>>287735448
>>287750943Why the fuck are retards still spouting this headcanon about The World originally having all the stand powers? There has never been an Araki statement or even an implication about this. He awoke Hermit Purple because he has Jonathan's body, which creates several matters of its own.
>>287751058Not sure with what you're having trouble with. He initially resigned to finding a good death, agrees to Gojo's plan since that would mean him dying would amount to something. In his deepest moment of despair, he resigns his life to just be a tool for exterminating curses and he continues to act as such. Ultimately capped off with his last offer to Sukuna to come back to him so he could complete what he originally started but Sukuna refused.
>>287751181My problem is that building a character around being a mindless retard who resigns to killing baddies after not getting what he wants (in this instance, some kind of meaningful death) makes him an unengaging protagonist, on top of Yuji already being too reactive as a character. I guess it would work if the worldbuilding was actually there, but the Jujutsu society basically ceases to matter after Shibuya
>>287750957Kek
>>287751293Yuji gets massive fan affirmative action for being a basic WSJ hero in the midst of completely unengaging writing in a nonsense world with nothing else to hold onto
>>287745819You mean a heavenly restriction and it doesn't have to be in exchange of a CT. It could be for ce as well
>>287751143All the JOESTARS stand powers.It was an old interview where he was planning early for the world to have all the stand powers, but he ditched it early on.However Dio having the stand powers of the joestars would make sense, since he is literally a parasite to them since part 1.Even better , the world power being “having all the current joestars stand’s power” would make sense even with the things he did onscreen.He had the vines of Heremit purpleThe super strength of star platinumi and his time powersThe design of Crazy Diamond and potentially its healing powers too (he healed Pucci in the flashbacks, which could just be thanks to his vampire powers, but he was not turned into a zombie or a vampire)Giorno is probably not born when he awakened The world, so it even make sense for him to not have Gold Experience since it awakens later anyway unlike Crazy Diamond who canonically was manifesting during part 3.It is just better and more interesting than “hur dur same type of stands”
>>287751467honestly the joestar power headcanon is so good I see zero reason to give a shit if araki ever ratified it
>>287751562*like I almost wonder if he's bitter about it being an editor's idea or something and he's obstinate about not giving it credit for petty butthurt reasons
Nobara is so tiny and cute
>>287751744Urobros...
>>287731414I liked it for the most part. Some of the most popular characters are introduced in the second half (Hakari, Naoya, Higuruma). Choso became popular as a protagonist, too. I'm ambivalent to the Zenin clan massacre and I don't like how Maki became some no-fun-allowed dyke, but I was happy to at least see SOME new sorcerers because logically there should be hundreds but Gege keeps reusing the same three or four for every arc. I liked how Kenjaku was defeated - Takaba could never actually defeat him, but it was the perfect ability to use against a chit-chatter fucking with people for sheer intellectual curiosity. I liked how most characters got a moment to help against Sukuna. I like that Nobara came back, because she was obviously alive and getting revenge on Yuji for how he faked his death before. Yuji's application of Kitchen looked cool. The Sendai stalemate was interesting and Yuta's fight with them was incredible. Reggie had a cool ability and I like how he was defeated, but I do think Gege took some creative liberties to have to avoid explaining every moment in the fight since it maybe didn't make sense 100% of the time. I was glad to see Todo come back, even if I think the vibraslap thing looks stupid, it's nice to know he didn't just give up on being a sorcerer. The foreign military stuff was boring.I've heard anons voice complaints but they always just sound like DBspic nonsense, nothing worth listening to. I guess if I had to offer up my biggest disappointment it's that most characters don't actually achieve their goals or complete a character arc. But I think that's just how Gege writes. The good guys don't win all the time, people die with regrets, the story is about Kenjaku/Sukuna and so it ended with their deaths - regardless of what the protagonists might still want to do with their lives. Gege idolizes Togashi after all.
a bunch of ugly dogshit human designs i cant take seriously
>>287751744Sukuna is so FABULOUS
>>287751744How can yuji's canon wife be so small?Does he have to carry her everywhere?
>>287734517>>287743726Yeah I agree the worldbuilding is really bad. It's very limiting to the series for no particular reason. Gege made it so that sorcerers will be Japanese for the most part, which is a very odd choice because you can do a lot with sorcerers from different cultures, which he did with Miguel's people, but otherwise only Japan is relevant. Even so it's not like the worldbuilding in Japan is good either. The clans are barely explored. Zenin clan is given the bare minimum development to get butchered by Maki. Gojo clan doesn't even make much sense.
>>287751744cutebara
>>287752677I respect him for having the balls to limit it to his own country. No one wants the Harry Potter situation. But also, if sorcerers existed all over the world, then there'd be hundreds of sorcerers (who we don't even know) trying to kill Kenjaku and Sukuna, and not only would that be unsatisfying to read, it would require Gege to come up with all of those characters. And JJK has high standards for cool-looking characters. It would probably take him years to come up with enough characters of that caliber to fill his setting with and also they'd detract from the finale.That's the biggest problem: coming up with characters. It's difficult to shit out a bunch of cool characters on the fly. I have respect for Horikoshi for creating a setting that requires him to have dozens of unique characters right out the gate, but even he didn't quite pull it off. Normally a series gets away with having a massive cast by having a massive setting so they have room to believably exist off-panel before the author actually creates them and/or they keep the stakes low early on so they have time and plausible deniability on why characters who should exist aren't showing up in the story yet. JJK has a small setting and is about the two worst sorcerers to ever exist right from the beginning.I dislike it but every battle shounen has this problem. Even One Piece.
>>287752677the main problem with how the rest of the world is handled is that its an unforced error. he could have left most of this shit vague because it doesnt matter, addressing it in a half-assed way just points the reader's attention at it and prompts them to nit pick
>>287752677being jap-localized is like the least of the problems of worldbuilding. the only loss is to power scaling thirdie retards not being able to write fanfic about the curse users in their tin shack slum
>>287753006why would that stop them when we literally see 3rd world village sorcerers in the series?
>>287731497Undead Unluck
>>287740657delusional. mha was terrible
>>287731414the only redeeming factor of this series is Gojo.
>>287736403>>287731497Medaka Box? (except Iihiko)
>>287753006It's actually not that bad. You could reason that each continent produces about 3 a year. Especially if you tap into ethnically Japanese citizens. The number of sorcerers in Japan is not small, Gege just never showed them. When Kenjaku told Yuki he was unleashed 1000 Yujis onto Japan, she said that was nothing. We know there's about 6 students every year (excluding the Ainu) and that doesn't take into consideration curse users. So it's not that there's too few sorcerers in the world for a fan to write fanfiction, rather there's too few sorcerers actually in the story.
this series is significantly less interesting on re-read in a way unlike almost anything else I've ever read. Never realized how much it relied on anticipation and hype
>>287731497In my experience, it's usually>first third is messy but has soul, adventurous, full of possibilities>second third is hit or miss, becoming too streamlined, art is technically better but looks more generic, world is shrinking, you thought there'd be a different storyline every arc but actually there's just two or three storylines and they aren't going away>actually there's just one storyline and somehow it was actually always like that and nobody told you, art is somehow getting worse, main character is the second coming of Jesus, fights a war against God, ends with a timeskip where everyone's hairlines are receding
>>287753624I had the exact opposite experience. I read through it once and only enjoyed it in an ironic way. It's heavily derivative of older series and full of psychobabble. Very few things are set up, Gege usually tells you how things work right before or right after they're used, which is terrible writing. It's basically a bunch of chuuni kids running around the playground making up bullshit powers as they go along. I dropped it when the final battle started. If you had asked me to name all the characters, I might've been able to name a dozen.Then I started to wonder if maybe the translations I read were bad, because I heard people talking about stuff I didn't remember. I saw some clips from the anime and it looked incredible. I thought, "Is this the manga I read?" So I decided to reread it and I couldn't put it down. There's still a few moments that made me roll my eyes or shake my head, but for the most part I loved it. I think I'd consider it the 4th best battle shounen, maybe higher.I think Gege writes in a fast and natural way that makes it difficult to tell what's going on sometimes. If a sentence is translated wrong or you skip over a word, entire scenes can go over your head. It's like Hunter x Hunter in that way, but Hunter x Hunter is slow and hammers everything into your head to make sure you get it, but JJK doesn't there's almost no lulls and there's more fights per chapter than any other series. I'm pretty sure there were moments I thought were plot holes the first time around, only to realize they had been explained. I also remember not realizing Hidden Inventory was a flashback until I was halfway through it and I've seen anime reactors have similar problems, Gege can jump forward and back in time with no notice.As another example, I did not find Todo imagining he and Yuji were middle school friends funny the first time. The second time I not only found it hilarious but I appreciated the joke, I don't know if I've seen that gag before.
>>287734471Yeah Culling Game was where I ran out of patience. It crazy just how little of everything that happened before it didn't matter. Jujutsu High and most of the characters related to it meant nothing and were absent and we get a bunch of randos on both sides that you get almost no time to get attached to. Except for Takaba, he was based.Hey remember when the Americans suddenly showed up? Gege hopes you don't lmao.
>>287753828>I also remember not realizing Hidden Inventory was a flashback until I was halfway through it and I've seen anime reactors have similar problemsWait, how?
I wouldn't be surprised if Gege regretted coming up with Domain Expansion and establishing it as a "confirmed one hit kill" when activated cause every fight just turned into running circles around each other until somebodys domain overpowered the other one. At least Bankai's in Bleach are all completely different from each other in function.
I'm just so impressed how very little is the world building JJK hasLike, do we even know anything about Heian era besides that one small flashback from Yorozu's PoV? For such an important era where both main villains reside in, we sure don't know jack shit.
>>287731497One thing all these have in common is that their "second half" is like two arcs that take place over maybe 2-hours of time in-universe. You look at any random long running shonen manga with 10 arcs, and the first 8 of them will together have 50% of the page count, while the last two arcs take up the entire other half of the series total page count.
>>287753828>>287754042lots of text to say 'i'm a speedreader'
>>287740657Literaly the vast majority of MHA is fucking trash
>>287754118The weirdest part is that Gege actually does like Sukuna so for him to not get his own Heian flashback is odd. I don't think it would destroy his character by making him look sympathetic. We all know he was some ruthless child eating, woman killing dick.
>>287737547>Oldgumi realizes that his aching body will soon leave his in a crappy nursing home>Decides to contact Yuta to talk>Convinces him to copy his technique to see what would happen if two Mahoragas fought for as a final blaze before death>Yuta agrees, the two set up the summoning>They emerge and immediately turn Megumi in to paste before disappearing>For some reason the gore resembles Reggie-Star somehow
>>287731414Unironically, the problem was fight faggotry.In the JJK Exhibitions, Gege mentions that after Shibuya, he wanted to speed up getting into the fights, because he felt the manga was too slow spending time on the narrative build up to it. So with the Culling Games, he set up the Tokyo-1 arc as a "tutorial". So that we know all the rules, why everyone is fighting, and whats going on. Then he didn't have to deal with any pesky "story", and could just jump immediately into fights for the rest of the CG arcs. He thought the readers would like that more.He literally abandoned storytelling in exchange for fight fagging.And you can see this approach applied two ways: in the CG arcs, plot related dialogue happens at the start and/or end of each arc. In Shinjuku Showdown, Gege shifts to a different tactic, and has plot shit happening in flashbacks.Its a failed experiment, and Gege admits that in the Exhibition. Saying he regrets taking that approach.
>>287754393is what he said online anywhere?
>>287731497HxHFMA
>>287737333Megumi is just some bitch he knew. He wasnt that special to Yuji in JJK whom is by all means a socially successful person. All the time in JJK we saw echos of how many people he knew before he became a sorcerer and he never spent that much time to begin with with Megumi anyhow.Megumi on the other hand is really just some figurehead loser held up by bloodline and has no one but>Gojo>Nobara>Yuji>His sisterHis life practically began in JJK.
>>287754529You're underestimating how fragile Yuji is with people he barely knew. Junpei is the biggest example of that. A kid he just met for a grand total of one day
>>287754529>He wasnt that special to Yuji in JJKWhoa now. Cool down on your megumi hate agenda. Yuji didn't suffer all the way for some "random" boy. Megumi is still special to him that only could know his pain of being tortured by Sukuna and he was the one that convinced him to keep on going despite the destruction of Shibuya
>>287754529That video makes me feel bad
>>287754529>Yuji in JJK whom is by all means a socially successful person.Which makes his attitude in Modulo worse because we are seeing the same Yuji who went out his way to save even the most insignificant of people and yet Modulo Yuji unironically stated he'd only act if either Yuka or Tsurugi dies
I will say thisA lot of hate surrounding Megumi is that a lot of people genuinely think Megumi himself wants to be>Surpassing Gojo (only gojo wants that for him)>To be the Zenin head clan (In the same arc where Maki killed them, Megumi himself said he doesn't give a crap about his zenin head status) >Taming Mahoraga (no natural user of 10S accomplished this. You are retarded if you think Megumi wanted that feat)
>>287744748One Piece peaked 20 years ago
>>287754728We're living in the age of isekai cancer ridden shows where the basis of a "good" character is that they win all the time and nothing bad happens to them. It's why Yuta appeals to them despite he's the outlier in a series where even the most seemingly perfect suffer badly.
>>287754435People were posting translations of the Exhibitions Q&As and the Exhibition books when it was going on.So its up somewhere on the net.
>>287754770It seems like everyone but Todo are called bums desu.
>>287754728Megumi is a great character, but people just hate him because he doesn't get to be in cool fights
>>287754770>It's why Yuta appeals to them despite he's the outlier in a series where even the most seemingly perfect suffer badly.I still feel nothing towards Yuta. I get his appeal, not gonna lie but unless you watch JJK0. People don't hold the same emotional attachment to him as they do with the other characters.
>>287754802The Tsumiki stuff was some of the most nonfunctional writing ever in a successful commercial product. And about as bad as the Nobara "I get it" page
You knowI don't think I've seen someone who likes both Megumi and Yuta at all. It's either they like Megumi but hate Yuta or they like Yuta but hate Megumi. Fags complain about Yuji vs Yuta but I see there's some overlap in their fans but Megumi and Yuta? No overlap in fans at all
>>287754837>And about as bad as the Nobara "I get it" pageThat scene confused me because Megumi hasn't said anything but then Yuji immediately thought of the worst and said "I get it"
>>287754865You couldn't assume the worst from Megumi's pained expression?
I think it goes without saying Yuta fans are actually the worst ones considering what most of them comprised of
>>287754865the kind of people that still like JJK were swearing up and down that nobara was clearly dead after that. I swear to fucking god
>>287754529Never post that video again.
>>287754865>>287754891>>287754899It's confusing in the sense why Yuji needed that validation from Megumi when Yuji himself saw what happened to Nobara right in front of him
>>287754897I actually like Yuta. It's just that his fans make it so unbearable to talk about him with other characters because they like to shove it to everyone's faces that he literally cannot lose whether in life or in fights
>>287754865yuji assuming the worst is natural, but nobody else saying anything just to (try to) swerve the reader is supreme hackery
>>287754956I find them to be the most insecure fans for some reason. Don't know what it's called. It's like an inferiority complex even though the character they glaze is above everyone else
>>287731414Everything bad that happened was because of Kenjaku's planning. it went to shit after he sealed gojo.
>>287739897I miss Toji, bros
>>287755042>I find them to be the most insecure fans for some reason.It stems from two things>Even Gege knew he had to fall back on Yuji at one point>Would never be as popular as the likes of Gojo and Yuji, even Megumi is still more popular than Yuta thanks to the power of fujos
>>287735121>YYH final arc was complete garbageLet me guess the only reason why you hate the final arc is because of the demon form yusuke receive from his father and sensui having Dissociative Identity Disorder ?
>>287755042he has the most protagonist-style self-insert power set imaginable then he was rammed into a non-fuctioning storytelling slot with it. The kind of retarded power scaling kids that can care about JJK characters can only sense that this was a setup to fail but not articulate it
>Yuta fans are the most annoying ones guysBruh there's more people complaining about Yuta not facing as much hardship as the others on top of having an OP ability. You guys also like to complain he actually doesn't have much fans or any "real" fans in the first place.>>287755162>Even Gege knew he had to fall back on Yuji at one pointThis is such a stupid statement to say, as Yuji is the MC so he is obviously gonna be the one to actually deal with Sukuna. Are you really one of those retards who believed Gege was trying to replace Yuji with Yuta? His role is just the same as Hakari, the strong senpai that comes in to help the MC face the stronger enemies until he gets strong enough. The problem really comes more from Gege waiting for the last minute to do a surprise reveal Yuji getting strong enough to be on the same level as them with all the techniques he learned as a "surprise" when it would have flowed better had he learned some of them like either Shrine or BM during CG.
>>287755042I'll demonstrate NO NO NO NO NO YOU CAN'T HATE MY FUARKING GOAT YUTA. HE IS THE STRONGEST. HE WINS ALL THE TIME. HE BAGGED A HOTTIE UNLIKE THOSE BUMS. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>287755429>HE BAGGED A HOTTIE UNLIKE THOSE BUMSI don't like Hana but Megumi bagged a cuter girl than Yuta.
>>287755429Bagging Maki is not the flex they think Yuta has. She's like the consolation prize because no other man would like her post burn face.
>>287739897There's something sad about 10S being mostly known as the Mahoraga technique. Even worse with Modulo having Yuka's relevancy only being dumping Mahoraga on Dabura and Gege going out of his way to literally outlaw almost the entire fucking moveset.
>>287755569I just want the tiger......
>>287739897Gege's new art sucks ass. It's like everyone has downs
I think it's going to be Iori. He's the only weird one and as far as Modulo is concerned. There's still more to him unlike with Jin
it's gonna be meimei
>>287756115but we already saw Mei Mei, Ui Ui just fused himself into her
>>287755422>with all the techniques he learned as a "surprise" when it would have flowed better had he learned some of them like either Shrine or BM during CG.I agree with this. I would have preferred he gained Shrine earlier than he did, and I don't think he needed Blood Manipulation at all. The whole significance of Yuji is that his ability to whack the soul made him a foil to someone incarnated like Sukuna; tossing BM in there was just wanky.
>>287755371>Let me guess the only reason why you hate the final arc is because of the demon form yusuke receive from his father>and sensui having Dissociative Identity Disorder ?Those are quite shit and deflate the arc, yes, but the entire Three Kings concept is thrown away so it makes Yusuke's demon heritage even more pointless.
>>287755485Mai was the cream of the crop, Maki's huge TnA and an actual ability to use CE. If only her sister gave it all up she'd be a special grade.
>>287755429Yuko and Hana are far prettier than Maki. In fact, it's a miracle Maki even got to marry someone
>>287745623Yorozu...
/a/ is always wrong.
>>287757259I remember so much doomposting about Sendai being delegated to 1 ep so it would be horrible only for it to turn out to be the most loved ep.
>>287733973A shonen where unique and bizarre powers fight against other unique and bizarre powers has been the money printer for the last two decades and anyone that tries to be different is significantly higher to get axed.
>>287757312The fact that AoT went down in history as a masterpiece satisfies me immensely.
>>287757312Normies will also love the sukuna gauntlet so
>>287757312It turned out to be an amazing episode, but the doomposting was justified after the zenin massacre turned out to be the worst episode of the season in terms of adaptation quality. Sendai covered more material yet it felt less rushed
>>287757259AoT best ending ever because animongs could sit through it
>>287757377Are you just a sadist?
>>287731414Why does it look like an uglier version of bleach?
What emotion is this expression meant to convey?
>>287760395autogynophilia
>>287760572fr?
Bros, is this for real? What about Megumi???
>>287760970Is that supposed to be todo?
>>287731497dragon ball