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Gachiakuta's author says you're an illegal/criminal/thief/pirate if you read her work at a library or somewhere because you didn't give her money first.
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I find it funny because the main characters in her work take things from people without permission.
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Mangaka are allowed to be annoyed that people are reading their work illegally. Yes you can say a whole lot about 'service issues' and the like, but it doesn't mean they're gonna be happy about it. If K-Manga was a subscription service, probably more people would read Gachiakuta in a more legitimate manner, but it would still be limited. It's difficult to beat the service of a website that has all the chapters for free at all times and updates with the newest chapter in a day or less, and also has thousands of other free manga from a bunch of publishers, and you don't even need to download anything.
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Might just as well publish for free to get maximum reach. If its good people will buy the bundles and merch anyway.
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>>287745660
She should make every page she creates an NFT, then nobody will be able to steal it!
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>>287745660
>if you read her work at a library or somewhere because you didn't give her money first
Well, firstly, she didn't say that. But also if your local library has a copy it was likely paid for with taxes.
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>>287745660
I see poorfags are still bleeding from their anus after the dojin card to justify piracy did not work lol
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i haven't looked at 4cuck in 10 years and i come back and see shills everywhere like >>287745787 who spams propaganda in favor of DRM, retarded paywalls and criminalizing free speech.
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Call the cops I don't give a fuck.
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>>287746139
I agree, shilling should be a criminal offense
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Pirating is fine, but pirates trying to justify it read like 2000s Dawkins-inspired atheist posts. No one wants to see that shit.
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>>287746183
shill post
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>>287745660
>I find it funny because the main characters in her work take things from people without permission.
midwit
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>>287745660
That's not what she said at all, schizo
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>>287746139
I’m not shilling at all.
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>>287746005
A "local library" is the same thing as a digital library, you fucking retard.

If you read something on the internet that is behind a paywall, it means someone paid for it to have it shared with everyone else.
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>>287746139
>i haven't looked at 4cuck in 10 years
You're fooling no one, you're in every thread exposing industry shills, keep up the good work brother
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Nothing surprising from someone who draws a manga with FORCED CHILD LABOR
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anyone got the screenshot of Jewcob from Fakku samefagging while shilling on /a/ and getting all posts deleted (which got the mod fired)?

>>287746123
what the fuck is this bot trying to say
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>>287746183
Where's your proof that reading something at a library is theft and doesn't increase the purchase pool for the author?

>>287746207
Where I live, you need a warrant to take someone else's garbage, lol.
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>>287745660
This discourse has been going on for almost a month now and it's stupid because why are people surprised that a Mangaka is mad about people pirating her work and bragging about it? Like, yeah, I'm gonna pirate it anyway, but of course someone would want people to pay for their hard work it's not that hard to comprehend
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Foreigners consuming japanese entertainment for free until the 2010s has only been a blessing for Japan, they just don't realize what it would have implicated if it went differently
Now that there are estabilished foreign venues and investments, you see japanese authors coming out scared saying Japan shouldn't pander to foreigners or they'll lose identity
You can't have everything
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>>287746395
Yeah, merch is important
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>[person] said [thing]
wooooooooow
Why should I care?
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>>287746290
>Pirate fags:
"What about doujins!? They make money from a character is not from them on degrading sexual situations!"
>Japanese authors:
"Doujinshi is just fans having fun with their own interpretations of their favorite characters on their own little circles. Not the same as reading from mangaparadise.com"
>Pirate fags:
"YOU ARE RAPIST! REEEEEEEEEE!"
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>>287745660
Yeah but why would I listen to a woman?
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>>287746385
This retarded propaganda that reading a copy behind a paywall without paying is s lost sale aka theft/piracy is much older than one month.

If you retards didn't care about consent from the masses, you would've burned down every library and blocked all traffic on the internet to any server not on your whitelist.
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>western faggot tourist and troons are now after the author after she slamdunked denied their shitty kuso shipping.
So easily noticed. She will never acknowledge your fag ship
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>>287746385
Nagase would say this
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>>287745660
This shit is beyond retarded. Creatives are DYING OF THIRST to have somebody, ANYBODY PLEASE just look at their work. The attention economy is crazy right now; there's so much entertainment and distractions to spread an audience thin, or more like to magnetize the overwhelming majority of people to a small handful of things while all the rest get totally ignored.

>"Don't you dare read or see or know about my artistic creation that I labored over and put blood sweat and tears into, unless you pay for it first!"
said nobody serious, ever.
Actual creatives WANT people to know about and enjoy and like their creations. The FACT is, most people do NOT have enough money to buy literally everything that catches their eye. They must pick and choose where their money goes. If a customer decides to give their disposable income to Media A, and to pirate Media B, or vice versa, the amount of money they poured into the economy is the same, and the amount of media they consumed is the same, and no amount of kvetching from the creators will change either. You can't squeeze blood from a stone. There's only so much money to go around, and it's insane and retarded to cry that the consumer shouldn't engage with your work AT ALL just because they're not wealthy enough.
How many people out there are desperate to have an audience for their work? Most novels, screenplays, comics, etc go totally overlooked and die in obscurity.
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Pirating is good but pirate sites should go down
It should be techincally difficult to pirate so the third world is kept out
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>>287746419
>>287746432
>this is like on Reddit, right?
>I press enter once to create a paragraph, yeah?
>an influencer has no influence because I say so, ok?
>so be a good goy and stop noticing

what did you mean by this
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>>287746395
>>287746407
Official animer merch has been a thing outside Asia since late 80 retards.
Not japan fault you retards live somewhere below Africa.
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>>287745660
Please kill these stupid bait threads mods
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>>287746542
>Mangakas are influencers
phew
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>>287746542
Sorry anon, Piracy I can understand, but crying about libraries is just dumb. Too dumb.
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>>287746539
why don't the creatives just upload their work somewhere to read for free instead of bothering with publishers, that would maximize the attention so it's the best option
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>>287746539
Pretty much Japan just shown that is not the rule for most of them
And only failed writters want anyone to read their work.
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>>287745660
>our culture is to be wageslave cattle who blindly obeys authority pls understand
lol
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>>287746653
>Our culture is to disobey the goverment with no counter-plan to govern ourselves
not any better
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>>287745660
IP freaks are disgusting and unhinged as usual.
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>>287746640
They do, there's a ton of free webtoons
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>>287745660
no one wants to pirate your shitty manga miss
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>>287746690
>Our culture is to disobey the goverment with no counter-plan to govern ourselves
Literally the story of Gachiakuta btw
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>>287746574
Didn't talk about merch, how the fuck do you get merch for free retard
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>>287746582
>please stop making fun of me for saying copying a file on the computer is theft and start making generals
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>>287746729
nta but there's a ton of non-official merch out there that's technically illegal
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>>287746729
>Merch is important
>Shows merch has been legally available outside Asia before anon was even born without the need to submit to mercari and yahoo auctions prices
>Ackshually I never mentioned merch
Only idolfags have it hard to get official merch outside Asia.
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>>287746487
>schizo off topic post
>hates the "west" but worships japan, uses a western language and a western site

least retarded newfag
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>>287746123
poorfags couldn't care less to be honest, it's not like they will buy manga if they can't read it for free.
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>>287746759
and? that's not free
>>287746793
Who are you quoting?
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>>287745660
I too have an issue with pirates. I hate self righteous cunts who try to justify their actions. Just own up to it and shut the fuck up. "Westerners" especially go out of their way to annoy or harass Japanese artists.

I fully support her stance. Fuck normalfag pirates.
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>>287746574
While that is true, the thing that determines if an ongoing series lives or dies is how it does in Nipland. For example, I like Alien Headbutt, but it looks like it's about to get axed soon, so even if I read it through the jump app like a good little goy, it would barely contribute to it not getting axed because what mostly determines those things is how the volumes sell. So, sure, while going up to the author's face and telling her you're reading her blood, sweat, and tears through a Discord server instead of purchasing it is a dick move, she doesn't really lose anything, especially if it's still doing well in Japan
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>>287746795
>hates "japan" but posts in a board about anime & manga, japanese media
hello twitter tourist
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>>287745660
She's japanese, they believe every illegal download equals one lost sale lol
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>>287746829
>The idea of other people having principles when I don't makes me feel bad, so I will pretend everyone else is lying about having them.
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>>287746123
Doujinshi is allowed to happen because Japanese companies have a lot more control about what can happen there. This is really the reason why Japanese companies won't bother with overseas for merch, or proper translation because they can't control shit.
Look at Konami for example, they left DDR to rot in the west because they want to push their jewish subscription DRM service which only works in Japan, so now barely anyone has DDR machines in even game centers and its all replaced by PIU machines.
It all just goes back to control at the end of the day.
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>>287746843
>if you watch US movies you can't complain about US
>if you listen to The Beatles you must worship Britain
I don't think that's how it works, I can enjoy anime and manga while realizing that Japanese society is retarded and their mainstream culture that's not aimed at otaku is dogshit. Horrible movies and TV shows, horrible music, their comedy is dogshit, but I do like anime and manga. I'd rather watch Chinese chanime than Japanese live action shows though, my loyalty is to otaku culture, not to Japan
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>>287746831
Thats the problem
Piratefags are acting if mangakas are losing a valuable income if they so not let them pirate. When Japan has the strings of the manga's fate.
But on the other hand, Love Bullet and Kagurabachi survived thanks to westoids spending money on the japanese manga and the later one managed to get into JOP mindshare thanks to westoids push.
So advocating and justify piracy is still pretty retarded.
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>>287746829
Screeching that copying a file on the computer is theft/piracy is the most normalfag thing ever.

Also, why have you never showed proof?

Oh wait you tried. You stole from tax payers to fund an expensive study which revealed libraries create exposure which leads to more sales. Because the study didn't substantiate your retarded propaganda, you tried to suppress it.
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>>287745660
>this shit again
I'm too old and too tired to talk about this again
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>>287746946
wtf i trust the science now
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>>287746942
>screeches that reddit invented paragraphs
>screeches that copying a file on a computer is theft/piracy
>refuses to show proof
>shills for scum who got caught faking proof while stealing from tax payers
>calls everyone retarded

least retarded shill
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>>287745660
We love twitter threads here.
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>>287745660
>Free devalues the value of things.
No it doesn't, if your work is really good then someone who is a fan will buy it regardless.
I have all the Dragon Ball volumes and dvds, I watched and or read everything on the internet first for free, I brought it because I liked it.
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>>287746942
>So advocating and justify piracy is still pretty retarded.
Remember that without piracy you will be forced to consume the one and only legally available translation in your country. If that one and only translation is retarded, well you'll just have to suck it up because other translations are illegal
Oh and if you want to read something old and niche, fuck you, it's not available and it never will be
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>>287745660
The retarded argument completly collapses itself because it presents buying the product as the alternative to pirating the product. Which is absurd, because without scanlation there is no product.
Someone reading a english fan translation wouldn't instead buy the japanese original, because they don't speak any fucking japanese. So the alternative to scanlation is people not knowing or giving a shit about the product.
No matter how small the percentage of people buying the original afterwards might be, its objectively much bigger than the people who resd japanese but still read scanlations and never buy any manga. This is absurd and it just shows how completly out of touch some nips are, because the fact non-japanese people can't read japanese or how little effort japan itself makes in marketing its products BECAUSE they never had to thanks to fan work, doesn't compute to them.
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>>287746915
lol
DDR is past is hey days even on Japan, even Konami knows that.
Is not about control, is about faggots feeling as equal as the japanese who bought 10 versions of the same volume to get the exclusive extras from each bookstore.
That is not control is delusion from piratefags.
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>>287746487
What shipping? Did that schizo sex slave female die or something?
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>>287747013
I don't care about trannylations because I import my shit like any serious fan should.
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>>287746539
react videos are the funniest, lots of people making thousands of dollars a month to talk over anime episodes and post videos with a watermark over the anime playing
These people getting much more money for that than a lot of animators were paid
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>>287747000
I'm not your boyfriend anon to let out all what you have been tru to read jjk on mangakalot
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>>287747030
>nooo you're not equal to someone who bought 10 versions of the same volume
I should fucking hope not, that guy sounds retarded
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>>287747000
if stealing from artists is alright stealing from tax payers is too :)
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>>287746843
>I'm a schizo
>what I think Japan is like is the real Japan
>if you disagree you hate Japan

you sound like that schizo cuck weeb influencer on jewtube who tried to unalive himself after nutting to cuck porn between his best friend and wife because he had a bigger dick or something.
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>>287747010
>I bought popular shit so TAKE THAT!
LMAO
Now show your Sandland videogame
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>>287747057
I'm sure manga will thrive worldwide once the only people reading it are people who know Japanese
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>>287747084
what was stolen?

the one you do unpaid shill work for is the only one stealing from tax payers.
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>>287747107
Manga thriving worldwide is a bad thing. Gatekeeping is good.
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>>287747093
>reddit spacing anti-Japan schizo blogging about his favorite e-celebs
great stuff
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>>287747071
Yeah
Is better to go and complaint to the mangaka about how my favorite girl should kill the bitch I hate and be the main protagonist despite what I've just read is not legally available in my region and japan hates my favorite girl.
That is better than buying
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>>287747107
He's using a machine "translator"
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>>287747015
>There is "I think then I exist"
>Now..."Scanlation creates the product"
roru, so scanlation are metaphysical shit? LMAOOOO
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>>287747093
>Japan is one (1) twitter post
>this is what I think Japan is
>yes, this dumb twitter artist represents all of Japan and the entire country is bad and sucks even though I'm consuming media from it
You tried.
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>>287747120
>Online discussion is free labor
jfc
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>>287747030
>Is not about control, is about faggots feeling as equal as the japanese who bought 10 versions of the same volume to get the exclusive extras from each bookstore.
Why is there even that kind of exclusivity bullshit to begin with? If it's going to exist then the Japanese in theory should know that Vlad, and or Ravi aren't going to have any financial impact whatsoever on their impact if they and 98% of the rest of the world are getting locked out.
Or are they just trying to prevent the Japanese from circumventing the exclusivity by getting it out of region?
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>>287747120
Is it really work if I enjoy it
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>>287746946
Libraries aren't piracy you inbred.
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>>287746385
sub 90 iq cant understand the implications of theory of mind and competing interests, they think what their interest is objectively correct
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>>287747138
>retarded newfag with paranoia self-producing and spamming retarded delusions like japan isn't western and reddit invented paragraphs in every thread

pat yourself for being a bot
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>>287747145
It is, yeah.
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>>287747182
>>287747138
who are you quoting, my mentally ill newfag friend?
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>>287747203
Masato do not go to tell Sydney Sweeney they fapped to the lastest Euphorio episode they downloaded from a rusky server.
Dimitri goes and tell Takashi how he can improve his manga despite Takashi has not authorized any russian licensors to sell it over there.
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>>287747231
I never said a copy of a book in a library is theft;/pirated.

Seek help, you are mentally ill.
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>>287747233
>nooo think about other people's feelings
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
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Is this ACK
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>>287747260
Found the latinx romcom fag
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>>287747215
when your idol with a skull cap gets blasted by an iranian missile and no one comes to give you oats so you don't starve, yes.
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>>287747287
that's how you get what you want from other people, but keep shouting like a chad retard
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>>287747179
Translation is a value adding service, objectively before it there is no product for the non-japanese market. So yes, in absence of official translation (which 90% of all manga will never get) without scanlation there is no product.
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>>287747271
>oi do you have a loicense to express this opinion
He said on an anonymous forum that he himself chose to post on because he understands that anonymous opinions are better than opinions from verified opinion license holders
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>>287746829
>I'm not against piracy, but...
Anyone thinks these posts aren't organic?
You're posting on /a/ about how you are totally fine with pirates but you hate if someone defends it and you try to start a smear campaign on "the pirate defenders". No human would say this.
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>>287747335
Two more weeks
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>>287747266
>n-no u
Concession accepted.
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>>287745660
women's opinions don't matter
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i try to read stuff legally but cheaply, although that's obviously not an option sometimes in both directions which leads to piracy

i do wonder if she sees anything from people who read it for free via kmanga just using the free tickets and not the points, i assume there's some payout difference between the two since series on there have such wild variations on what you can read with the tickets vs points
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>>287747387
What about Toshio Sako? He also spoke out against piracy and he would kick your ass
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>>287747346
>xitter
>anonymous
Is not the early 2000 Walter
All this piracy debate started and continues on xitter
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>>287747349
Yeah they're shills.
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>>287747384
who are you quoting and why do you sound like a pinoy?
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>>287747349
You're absolutely ight!
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>>287747414

Calling someone a thief/pirate for copying a file on a computer started decades before Twitter was created, you mentally ill newfag from Reddit.
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Piracy is piracy. That's the end. But also who fucking cares. Pirate to your hearts content, don't try to morally justify that shit. Just shut the fuck up and do it.
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>>287747343
Translation is value for people who do not pirate anime or manga.
Scanlation is for people who pirate manga and anime.
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>ILL EAGLE LLY
>OBEY GUBBERMINT
>NEVER QUESTING GIBBERMINT
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

anyone who says this shit probably has more than half their brain missing
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>>287747414
I was talking to you, dumbass. And you're talking to me. Are we on xitter right now?
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>>287747495
I can't pirate in good conscience if the author doesn't approve
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>>287747495
>YOU STOLE THAT BY COPYING THE INFORMATION

You are mentally ill, lol.
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>>287747543
Thank God nobody said this shit here
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>>287745660
Many authors in the industry probably have this opinion. She's just going to get all the hate because she dared to say it oud loud.
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>>287747495
Today's newfags have to be morally right and have a clear conscience, so they try mental gymnastics like "That company is bad, capitalism is bad" or "This author is a pedophile/racist, so it's okay to pirate their work." The new gen can't stand having their feefees hurting or being morally gray. That's the same reason why villains can't be evil and have to be redeemable in some fashion.
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>>287747495
I will justify that shit because without piracy a ton of anime/manga/games would simply not be available today. Piracy is the best way to make old media accessible even half a century later. Publishers don't a shit about their back catalogue, they only want to sell the FOTM and the few old classics
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>>287747106
I didn't buy popular shit I bought shit that was good and that I liked.
If I was buying popular shit then my entire library would filled with crap like One Piece, Naruto, trannyjutsu Kaisen, Chudsaw Man and all other kinds of garbage.
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>>287747478
>copy is piracy
Piracy is unauthorized distribution and consumption, not making a copy for yourself just in case the authorized you bought shits itself.
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this bitch the type of stupid cunt who probably thinks borrowing a copy of her manga from a buddy is also theft.

god forbid you buy a copy from a secondhand store too

hope she suffers
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>>287747591
if you're gonna deny something blatant at least don't do it when it's close to your post you fucking retard
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>>287747623
>Dragon Ball
>Not popular
roru
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>>287747631
>Semantics

Like clockwork, the shill has no proof, it can only deflect.
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>>287747549
Thread from a xitter screencap
So yes
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>>287747601
>obey the government
>never question the government
>copying information on a computer is theft

do you sniff glue every day though? like how did you arrive at this point?
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>>287747663
>I do not have any proof to counter you
Thanks for conceding
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>>287747682
Grok explain to this guy that we're not actually in Japan just because someone posted a photo of Japan in the thread
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>>287747638
I can use the search function in my browser just fine, thank you very much. Of course I don't see your attempt at "translation" as anything but fanfiction.
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>>287747714
Whatever it takes so you can sleep soundly at night anon.
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>>287747682
How come I don't see you whining about a "xitter screencap" in shill posts?
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Two bombs were not enough
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>>287746385
You posted a yellow character.
Your argument is invalid.
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>>287747716
You made the claim that copying a file is theft. The burden of proof is on you, you mentally ill newfag from Reddit.
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>>287747714
>Deflecting this hard
Someone got their feelings hurt
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>>287745660
so be it, i will not advertise her work for free anymore, i will avoid any sort of discussion about her work or her existence from now on.
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>>287747726
Hi, this discussion started on the biggest social media platform X and evolved into an all out war between Brazil, Latin America and Russia thanks to the algorithm and the auto-translate function.
Thus, any other site discussing this topic is part of the platform where it started.
Hope that helps
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>>287747749
Americans are the ones who started this cancer that copying a file is theft.

Japan was ruled by pirates until they became Westernized. Which is funny, as Japanese schoolbooks teach kids that those pirates were "benevolent sea farers".
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>buy manga because you like it and want to show support
>15 volumes in the story goes to shit and you now have a bundle of trash occupying your shelves
>money stolen
Nah, I will continue to pirate and only buy finished works I like, which, ironically are hard to come by without being secondhand since the earliest volumes have been sold out for half a decade.
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Reminder to everyone ITT that (You) will never be Japanese.
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>>287747764
>Copy is equal to a piracy
Wow, you keep with the concede without even trying; Thanks!
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>>287747789
I asked you
>Are we on xitter right now?
you replied
>yes
Grok you deal with this guy, I don't have the patience
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>>287746385
Spics got offended, I’ve seen the same shit happen in like 2 different fandoms
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>>287745660
Maybe if this bitch wrote a better manga I'd actually consider paying for it lmao
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>>287747830
>>287747766
samefagging unpaid shill from the philipiness or indonesia detected.

~
whenever someone says retarded shit and can't prove it, that's how you know you're talking to an indonesian or pinoy unpaid troll army.
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>>287746734
Nobody cares about your moralfagging either way
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>>287747682
Can someone explain why people are spamming Xitter discourse a month after it's over
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Dont worry, i have no plans to read Gachiakuta at all.
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>>287748037
>Nobody cares

yet you replied

>about your moralfagging

how am i the moralfag but not you when you're the one shitting up every thread that copying a file is theft because you think being an unpaid shill will get you good karma points
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How to enrage shonen female authors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA
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Genuinely haven't cared less about less about a retarded twitter spam topic that this, anyone want to roll?
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>>287746216
actually, in a lot of countries authors get a slight cut from loans of their books. this comes from taxes. it's a good way to promote literacy, libraries and for helping struggling authors. if you read something in a 'digital library' (gimme a fucking break) you're basically just giving both money (through ads) and your personal data to a bunch of faceless corporations.

it's important to understand the difference between public and private ventures. i know america isn't very good at this, though.
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>>287748021
So you are from SEA?
>>287748059
The thread they started at /v/ got deleted
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>>287748129
Sorry but I just got here and to see this retarded thread and your faggot post. Nobody cares about your moral justification for pro or anti-piracy. That's the point. The entire concept of the discussion is normalfag tourism
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>>287748196
roll
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>>287745660
I feel like this is unreasonable.
There needs to be a single online service that has a huge library of manga content and high quality translations.
Expecting anyone other than collectors to buy physical in 2026 is a funny joke.
In my opinion manga piracy is not an affordability issue, it is a matter of convenience.
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>>287748196
gimme someone good
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>>287748196
Sure why not
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>>287748196
Rollin
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>>287748196
c'mon
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>>287748294
FUCK I was 3 away from Tessa
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>>287746829
Im not living in Japan so i don't see why i should adhere to their code of conduct and understanding of how things should be. The entire text can be summed up in gib me mony plx. I'd rather give the drunk sitting around the corner 100$ than pay 8$. I'll flush 500$ on the roulette while shitting a giant log before i give this miso puding 8.99$.
That's just how it is.
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>>287745660
Who cares? Nearly all mangaka are anti-piracy
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>>287748196
rereoll
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>>287747495
Yeah I don't get why there's been a major uptick in "justifying" piracy over the past decade. What happened to pirating just because you like free shit, lmao? Nowadays it's always backed up with retarded excuses like "I want to spite this author/publisher" or "I want to own this corporation" like they want approval from others or something. Is it a guilt thing for the younger generation?
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>>287747920
meanwhile in reality it's always a hypocritical spanish-speaking american regurgitating retarded propaganda like you do.

https://i.postimg.cc/9MNXvgz2/1.jpg
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>>287748196
why can't 4cuck get a bot that can speak coherent english lol
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>>287748463
how could you do that to the poor individual you rolled before
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>>287748364
>Who cares?

yet you replied

>Nearly all mangaka are anti piracy

and why are you defending them?
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>>287745660
Crazy
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>>287748326
Well. You're looking at people who go out of their way to talk to the mangaka on twitter and screencap. If you're going to do that I guess it makes sense. No idea why would someone do that though.
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>>287747156
You say this and yet OP's post was translated by a machine....curious...
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>>287748598
>Manipulated by jewcow
Oh nyo...the poor japanese! They wanted their ero doujins to be free but the evil jewcow brainwashed them into capitalism! Save the poor japanese! They want their manga to be free! The do not like money! They like my approval than any money in the word! Because thats what anime taught me!
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>>287745660
We shouldn't care about what they think about piracy. Just ignore it. I'll keep reading mangas however I can.
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>>287748509
>>287748234
>>287748037
Yeah I don't get why you worship corporations, samefag, and spam retarded lies instead of delivering proof that shows copying a file is theft/piracy/stealing.

Oh wait I do, it's because you're a shill, and you do it all for free because you think this is morally right and moralfagging will wash your sins away.
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OP stop crying about this
You would have to be extremely homosexual to be even remotely ruffled by a comment like this
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>>287745660
This argument sort of makes sense for anime because anime can't be made without a big budget but manga is literally just a bunch of sketches, it doesn't need a budget, even if people pay nothing, artists will keep drawing. That's the difference between an artist and a hack, artists can't stop drawing even if nobody pays them.
If you're motivated by money as a mangaka, Gachiakuta is the kind of trash you make I guess
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>>287748823
says the newfag that was retarded enough to get programmed by a tranny to think reddit invented paragraphs and sperg out in defense of corporations for free
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>>287748834
Artist stop drawing when the motivation stops.
Money is a motivation
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>>287748222
>you're familiar with me because I keep breaking into your house and taking a shit in your house?
>that means you're like me!
>and gubbermint said copying a file is theft and you must obey it!

smartest SEApe
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>>287746385
As an artist herself, Nagase would not say this.
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>>287745660
Okay, I won't read her manga, Gachi-whatever.
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>>287748794
Genuinely what are you talking about
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>>287748937
You fags pirate because the japanese do it. Thats what you all said lol
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spics in particular have seemed to be incredibly assmad about JP mangaka on xitter kek. assuming anyone who particularly cares about this nothing topic is a spic
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>>287748944
Nagase is a hardcore Japanese Otaku and therefore vehemently anti-piracy
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>>287748196
rolly polly
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>>287748931
If you need outside motivation, you're not an artist. Artists can't stop drawing, they're the type of people who doodled during class. If you're not like that, you'll never produce anything of value. Can still be a fun hobby though, but you'll never be great
Same with music, if people only played music for money, there would very little music out there. Some people just can't not play music, these are the real artists, and there's a lot of them
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>>287745787
I buy plenty of manga. I have never bought any that I haven't read for free first. And I never will.
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>>287745660
This bitch needs to shut the fuck up
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You think Japan was drooling a lot when Anglos let them into League of Nations and then the G7?

They're drooling even more now that Jews have given the G7 permission to implement "age verification" which means you'll have to reveal who you are whenever you use a site and when they see you haven't paid for it, they'll throw you behind bars and have dogs rape you to death like Jews do with Palestinians.
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>>287749062
Motivation builds from the outside anontachi
Those musicians who perfom the same c# cords every song are motivated by the current political situation like Free Palestine and shit. Without it there is no motivation and then no song.
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I certainly get being annoyed but there’s a ton of manga that I’ve read that’s NEVER gotten a localized physical or even digital translation made commercially available. So my only option is to buy it in a language that I’m still learning to read either digitally(which I don’t prefer. If I’m buying a book I want a physical product) or pay an overinflated shipping cost. I’m willing to do that for super niche shit I want to support but I can’t reasonably do that for everything. And beyond that fan translations are sometimes the only reason there’s any word of mouth about a series outside of Japan
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>>287749103
another twitter post from literally who
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>>287746167
sad news anon
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>>287748199
>the copy of the work you paid for and then donated to the library?
>yeah the library pays the author each time someone reads it
>source? trust me bro

paraphrasing your retarded nonsense doesn't hide who you are, takahashi.
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>>287745660
Don't care, brb downloading 17 copies of each Gachiakuta volume
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>>287749199
Print out a volume of her manga and leave it out in public and tweet her a picture of it.

-1 sale lmao
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>>287745660
Didn't she act all smug about taking down some Gachiakuta fan translation discord that was hosting her manga? For someone who researched stuff, you'd think she'd know by now that her manga's on hundreds of different websites. She doesn't understand the pirate or manga/anime scene over here well enough to properly comment on it, nor should she. She's a mangaka, she should stick to making manga. I hate to give JJK's author anything, but Gege had the right idea about not interacting with fans on social media because he knew he'd just spend all day arguing with middle schoolers.
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>>287749141
Wrong. I don't know what to tell you anon, maybe you just don't know any real artists. There are people out there who have to draw or play music, it's like breathing to them, they can't stop. In fact I'm pretty sure they'll PAY money to do it. These are the ones who become the GOATs
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>>287749145
>the attack dog of the largest English-language hentai manga publisher in the world who has censored over 100000 works on the basis that everyone who reads a paywalled copy without paying is a thief/pirate
>literal who

try harder, shill
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>>287746808
Pretty much. Poorfags will just find other ways to amuse themselves. But even spending time lottering anywhere that's not a park requires money nowadays.
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>>287745660
>manga about trash
>best place to read it is in the trash
Makes sense.
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>>287749271
The GOATS are the ones who click with any circle of society regardles if it is free or not.
Funny enough, the ones who claim piracy is not a problem are modern artists who failed to click with any circle of society lol.
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I'm not gonna fault her for not wanting all her hardwork to be stolen and that she wants to be compensated for her efforts.

But she also needs to accept the reality of the world and that she's not gonna chastise people into buying her manga and being this aggressive and in your face to people is not gonna work out well for you in the slightest.
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>>287749307
No we'll just continue to pirate and you can keep seething
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>>287749429
>reading a copy that costs money without paying for it is theft/piracy because you would've otherwise paid for it

prove it, retard
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>>287745660
That's not what was said and not a single person here goes to the library (unless they're homeless).
If you go to the library, that actually would help their sales. You checking the manga out would contribute to the interest the library has in buying more copies of it when they put in orders, and it taking greater shelf space would lead to further interest from other people going to the library's manga section.
99% of people reading shit for free don't contribute even 1% of the money that goes into that exchange (which, realistically, is the heavily discounted $8~ (probably less) the library pays for the volume).
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>>287749277
like I said literally who
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>>287749182
>>the copy of the work you paid for and then donated to the library?
Most libraries in first world countries don't tend to take donations.
Maybe your school library would, during like reading week or whatever (the elementary version, not the university version), but generally libraries don't take in donations because those would need to be checked by their clerks or an external company, which would either increase costs or decrease efficiency, and lead to nothing happening.

So, thanks for being retarded broski.
Also, the versions on pirated sites weren't uploaded by the person who bought the manga. They just took the volume rip on nyaa- which may have, but probably wasn't, paid for.
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>>287745660
What if I pirate Gakiakuta, upload it to a website, where I charge others to read it at while also putting large obtuse marketing links and logos over the mangaka's name and specifically draw penises and boobies as well as funny edit notes on it and mustaches, while making sure no money ever finds it way back to the author?
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>>287749168
Doesn't this accidentally prove in a funny way that piracy is not illegal? When a pirate does something, then it is not illegal.
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>>287749599
Imagine Trash Bakugo with a big mustache going "MAMMA MIA THAT IS A BIG LOAD OF NEW CRISPY CHICKEN PRETZEL FRIES" and then Belly girl gets stink lines and says "Durr I am smelly" and Ngin says "SO, YOU THOUGHT YOU COULD OUTWIT THE GREAT N CORTEX?"

And charged users 20.00 plus tax and tip a month to edits like these?
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>>287745660
i don't care. then i'll be a thief
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>>287749500
why do you randomly_press enter once after every word and why are you lying about people donating copies to libraries and libraries paying every author with tax payers money?

you did it here >>287748199

then you got btfo here >>287749182

so you're going to keep spamming this shit every time you get btfo huh
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If the manga industry wants to curb piracy, they need to have simultaneous or at least near simultaneous releases in other languages. If people aren’t doing fan translations, you’re waiting for a couple years minimum before a translated official release and then it’s an average of a 1 year wait for any current release to get translated and officially released. Nobody wants to wait that long and that’s only contingent on it actually getting licensed ever.
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>>287746395
>Foreigners consuming japanese entertainment for free until the 2010s has only been a blessing for Japan, they just don't realize what it would have implicated if it went differently
Not really.
Most of anime's popularity in the west came through official channels. Gundam Wing got big on American TV, which led to the greater interest in Gundam SEED when it released.
Naruto and Bleach both aired on mainstream broadcast cable. Same with Dragon Ball. Thee amount of people who gave a shit about any of these in the west before they aired on cable was basically non-existent and not even remotely worth considering which is why none of these works had any manga ventures in English prior to their English broadcasts.
And from the 2010s on, the most popular anime have always been ones on streaming services. Baki got popular because of the anime being on Netflix. HxH got popular because of the anime being on Netflix in 2014. Same with Attack on Titan, and Devilman Crybaby, and so on and so on.

You could argue that piracy drove up merch sales, but the amount of people importing merch was always negligible and still is. In fact, it's more likely that foreigners importing merch is more disruptive to native otaku than it is actually helpful to the companies selling it.
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>>287749696
>why do you randomly_press enter once after every word
Maybe you should stop posting on your chinkshit phone, idk.
>and why are you lying about people donating copies to libraries
I'm not. If you live in the third world this is probably a thing, but libraries in first world countries generally don't take donations because of what I described. I know this because I was wanting to get rid of books a few years back, checked the policies of several nearby libraries, and they all stated very plainly that they do not, under any circumstances, accept book donations. They only accept financial donations.
>and libraries paying every author with tax payers money?
I never said that.
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>>287749564
>the only library that is a library is the one in my head
&
>the "volume rip" on nyaa were obtained not by buying but by breaching into the publisher's computer
>therefore you lose the internet argument
>also i'm autistically pressing enter once for no reason because my mom said i'm the smartest kid in the world

get help.
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>>287749763
yeah you're lying. i called a local library and asked them if they want to accept my copy of something and they said yes.

and i live in the first world. all of my neighbors are nordic, like me.

you are from south america or some shit. how do i know you're a subhuman that LARPs as a first worlder? because no human lies pathologically, thinks solving 4cuck captchas is proof of high intelligence, and is retarded enough to get programmed by trannies to press enter once for no real reason.
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>>287747661
Retard, I bought it because I liked it, it just happens to be extremely popular.
It's not a hard concept to understand.
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>>287749877
>>the only library that is a library is the one in my head
Again, first world libraries generally do not accept these books. Do you mean a used book store, where there is a financial incentive to having a varied stock of books?
Or do you mean whatever shithole is in your third world country?
>the "volume rip" on nyaa were obtained not by buying but by breaching into the publisher's computer
Why do you need to invent an argument. This is all you're doing, you're inventing things that were never said.
>>287750022
>yeah you're lying. i called a local library
Again, maybe in your third world country.
>and i live in the first world. all of my neighbors are nordic, like me.
Argentina is a fourth world country bro.
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I buy manga, AMA
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>>287745660
>Gachiakuta's author says you're an illegal/criminal/thief/pirate if you read her work at a library
She did not say this.
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>>287745660
Mangaka are really the very last people that should complain about piracy, even though I understand how hard it is emotionally. They have an industry where one person's work is multiplied millions of times by simple copying, compared to like film or anime that require gigantic industrial capital and labor inputs. If you think about the entire global audience the proliferation of your work into more minds is worth massively, massively more than gatekeeping your high input cost investment in it. It's genuinely extremely short-sighted and I roll my eyes at pro-piracy arguments all the time.
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>>287750105
"Paying through exposure" is the dumbest lie every sold and it makes me laugh everytime some retard here keeps pushing it.
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>twitter screenshot thread
kill yourself
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>>287750027
>happens to like a popular thing
Just like the millions who just happened to torrent One Piece instead of Happy Sugar Life.
Is just a coincidence people pay for popular things.
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>>287750151
there is absolutely no question that anyone outside japan would ever read manga if it had been paid for the last 25 years
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>>287750216
People have been paying for manga for the past 25 years.
Every school I ever attended had a complete collection of the 90s Ranma English release because people did buy and read manga when it was available.
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>>287750082
Do you buy any good ones?
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>>287745660
There are some extremely retarded takes in this thread, and OP's is, unsurprisingly, the biggest piece of faggotry among it. The issue is the perceived value of art like manga, because if jew capitalists who run publishers in Japan and abroad can't make enough of a return on selling manga, they'll stop, or at the least greatly devalue the wages of the artists making it. Thus, less will be produced, and those who are producing it are making much less money than they would in other industries or work, further shrinking the industry. Obviously, Kei Urana wants to continue supporting herself through her artistic work, and is unable to change the capitalist nature of manga publishing, so instead of trying to appeal to the greedy kikes who see a pirate and think it lost revenue, she's appealing to the audience that reads pirated manga, but might be convinced to purchase some paid version.
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>>287750270
is that a school library you're talking about genius
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>>287750317
How is that in contention?
School libraries carry what is popular or relevant to education. Simple as.
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>>287750272
No.
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I wonder if these creators feel the same way about manga cafés, which are incredibly common throughout Japan, as they do about piracy.
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>>287749564
>renting on a library
What if I read a book while I'm lazing around the library and don't rent it? checkmate atheist.
>They just took the volume rip on nyaa
Jimmy paid for the rips and shared the manga with us on nyaa. No probs there.
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>>287750162
how come i've never seen you whine about "twitter screenshot threads" in shill threads?
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>>287750307
>WAHHHHHHH YOU WOULD'VE PAID FOR THAT COPY IF SOMEONE DIDN'T SHARE IT

prove it, you fucking faggot. also, who is your current handler? moshe or schlomo?
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>>287750396
>What if I read a book while I'm lazing around the library and don't rent it?
That's still a form of public engagement, but yeah, that would contribute far less than actually checking it out, sure.
>Jimmy paid for the rips and shared the manga with us on nyaa. No probs there.
There's a difference between one library buying one copy of a manga (and likely a license to host the digital version, since most libraries have an online counterpart now) so that it can be read by maybe a couple thousand people, versus one guy maybe buying a manga volume so it can then be shared on sites accessed by millions.
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>>287750333
Neither do I.
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>>287750090
she did you retard
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>>287750470
OP are you a spic?
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>>287750552
no but you are

see >>287748598
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>>287750029
>Again, first world libraries generally do not accept these books
Absolutely lying through your fucking teeth. Kill yourself.
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>>287745660
>Author trashytrashuta has an opinion
Who cares?
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>>287750151
>you would've paid for the copy if no one shared it

Where's your proof, retard?
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>>287750577
Why do you think everyone who thinks you're a faggot and doesn't give a fuck about this is the same person?
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The only thing that matters is I dropped this manga, so I won't be buying it.
If it was better, I'd buy it, like I did with Origin.
That's my truth.
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>>287750368
>manga café
>minimum 1 sale of physical copy per volume per store (more if popular), plus sales of back issues to replace damaged volumes.
>scanlation site
>One physical or digital sale, spread across thousands of clients
Obviously one is more acceptable to publishers than the other.

>>287750506
>Shit I didn't say
Don't shoot the messenger faggot. The only kikes deluded enough seriously believe that shit are the ones that run the publishing industry.
But they DO run the publishing industry.
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>>287750589
>Absolutely lying
No, it's just reality. The simple reality is that someone could donate an innocuous book that looks like say, Harry Potter. But that book actually has an insert glued in with hardcore pornography, or a QR code to a data harvesting site, or even just a picture of the guy's cock because he thinks this is funny, or maybe entire pages are scribbled over, or maybe some are torn out, and all of these mean this book can't be in the library. So someone would need to check and clear these new arrivals, which is not feasible for any first world library that expected more than a dozen people everyday.
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>>287750621
>stop noticing influencer is grooming more retards to suck corpo dick

huh
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>>287745660
I agree with her. That doesn't mean I'm going to stop.
It is piracy/stealing, but I'm not going to say I'm a saint here. It's just easy and better service to not pay than to pay.
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Picrel is my favorite false equivalency because I've seen creators tell people it's fine to pirate their work, but if a parent was fine with this they'd be in hot water.
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>>287750775
Western creators =/= Asian creators
That mangaka who said he earned more on ko-fi than on manga sales shows a bleak future for his manga and that piracy truly does not help shit for manga sales.
also
>found the brazilian
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>>287750674
I just don't like gachiakuta, that's all.
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>>287750775
Actual obsessed twittertards obsessively combing through random nip posts and posting this shit here. Holy fuck go back normalfag
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>>287750775
>>287750824
>Can not answer back
roru RUMAO
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>>287745660
There's been a lot of discussions about manga piracy in general, but according to some people alleged in the industry (as alleged as online posts can get), their data apparently shows works that get pirated get more sales from the country doing the pirating than countries that have no piracy at all. Some English publishers also use piracy popularity as a risk metric, and Seven Seas even allows people to vote for a series to pick up, which popularity will inevitably come from piracy. So a in a sense, yes, piracy is a lot of free promotion since you can't buy what you don't know exists, or even if you know it is exists, it's not like you'd have any interest or attachment in it until you've read a certain amount of it (which the 10-15 pages a 'trial reader' on Japanese sites will absolutely not cover).

Personally, I think it's a middle ground thing. Rampant piracy is bad, but it's not like all piracy is bad; the hardest part of manga is learning it exists and being able to follow it without jumping through hoops. There's literally dozens and dozens of Japanese online manga reading sites that have releases every day, but there's no good way to keep track of all that shit because it's so scattered around, with some manga being simultaneously released on different platforms with varying reading experiences, such as splitting chapters. There's also the concept of 'I'd read/try this for free but wouldn't buy it' which is where I find a lot of manga. Like I've read all of Kagurabachi, but if I had to pay event a cent for it, I just wouldn't because that's the threshold of the series for me. Hell, I'm heavily considering putting it on hiatus for a couple years even when free. Then you have the American Comics stance, which is extremely easy to find pirated copies of most thing but they apparently are doing so well they just don't care.
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The people militantly obsessed with this are overwhelmingly third worlders
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>>287750775
>Gotta pay to rape children
The nerve!
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>>287750775
You wouldn't download a child would you
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>>287750775
>another literally who xitterpost
go back and kill yourself
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>>287750883
>>287750998
Why have we never seen you screech about Xitter when the shill post uses Xitter?
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>>287750951
Test
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>>287751021
What shill post? The only people who have ever used /a/ to shill anything were for like nendoroids
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>>287745660
Why doesn't she just market toward, well, the sole market of all Japanese manga: Japan? She really shouldn't try to include foreign markets sales when the only sales that matter if she gets axed or not is Japan sales. Incidentally, manga costs more that double the amount overseas when officially published (sometimes triple), and it's extremely expensive to ship manga from Japan because Japan Post has fucked all shipping options since Covid. So, yeah, people are going to pirate. For online sites, there's a feud between a lot of Japanese sellers with VISA and MasterCard, and some restrict foreign access.
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>>287750951
Brazilians, latnixs and Ruskys are the ones keep pushing the debate to le own le pedophiles japanese and micro dick gooks.
However, for the first two, their market is worthless so piracy from latinx is shit.
Like Rooster Fighter is not even popular on pirate sites despite they love to cling on this one as how japanese should allow piracy because the author spoke spanish on xitter rumao.
Ruskys are lucky they have frogs and pizza faggots to cover them up.
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>>287746640
They do that though? From twitter web manga to free web novels.
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>>287745660
The issue isn't her being dumb its more people will listen to her.
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>>287750926
Copying a file is never theft/piracy.

And there is never anything wrong with rampant free speech.
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>>287751101
Spics are literally the most worthless populace ever. Literally zero cultural creative export. They're soulless husks that just consume shit from other countries. I despise Russians and the French, but at least they have actual culture and talent that has created things
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>>287746385
Because not all creators are narrow minded about piracy?
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>>287745660
Get a load of this fucking cope
The reason Gachitrash shit Soul Shitter ripoff doesn't sell has nothing to do with gaijin piracy
It's because it's fucking shit and nips don't want to buy it

This is why Manga is failing big time in sales in Japan
Jump mag is probably below the million mark
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>>287751101
>Brazilians, latnixs and Ruskys are the ones keep pushing the debate to le own le pedophiles japanese and micro dick gooks.
You misspelled jews and amerimutt trannies
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Why do (you) care what she thinks when you know she panders to people who hate you and has dyed hair. she is destroying manga.
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>>287751187
Anon
Gachikuta is alive thanks to the westoids who bought the manga legally.
Like it happens such as this pic >>287746942
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>>287751227
Jews buy everything cause their rich. I rarely see them pirate
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They could fix this issue with a centralized platform that had all manga readily available and translated day 1 in English and also offered discounts for buying physical preorders that include digital free of charge.
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>>287745660
Too bad bitch, without piracy I would have never figured out about your manga through the anime I pirated.
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>>287745660
She's right.
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>>287745660
I do not care
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>>287751066
What were you testing?
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>>287751329
yet here you are, shill
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>Steam for anime/manga/light novels
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>Raw untranslated works sold directly
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>Companies like Crunchyroll, J-Novel Club, etc can sell their translations through this storefront as "DLC"/"Add-ons"
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>Users/groups like you, Commie, etc can sell or upload fan translations for free, retaining the community aspect which initially drove Japanese media to global popularity and offering the freedom and community to ensure the needs and desires of every customer are met. You have a particular styleguide for subs you prefer? You want to translate "Itadakimasu" as "Rub-a-dub-dub, thanks for the grub?" There is no official/professional translation of the language/dialect you speak? You can find it or create it yourself. This creates a way to maintain the value of the fan translator phenomenon, offers similar "streed cred" social benefits for those so inclined, and can even lead to job opportunities if a company can see a popular and highly rated fan translator getting many downloads and upvotes on an official platform where communication between the fan translator, the intermediate publisher such as YenPress, and the Japanese themselves is streamlined.
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>User profile customization, avatars, achievements, fan art, chat groups, reviews, forums, etc. The success of Valve/Steam speaks for itself. If you build it, they will come.
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>Forums in particular are a great way for the average consumer, translators, editors, and Japanese artists themselves to interact, offer feedback, and better understand each other and better their mediums and communities. Services like Steam, J-Novel Club, and Twitter exemplify this.
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>>287751282
Not even Japan has a centralized webstore for manga.
And each of them pay extra cash to the mangaka to draw an exclusive illustration or mini manga for their store as an extra for the manga volume on retail.
Is useless
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>>287751369
>Le steam for manga and anime
>>287751377
>Immediately a response on how it wont work
kek
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>>287751369
Those companies don't care about money as much as they do controlling manga and anime.
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>>287751377
If manga extras were a thing outside of Japan I’d buy more manga than I already do

t. has ordered Japanese releases for the sole purpose of getting an acrylic stand more than once
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I haven't bought a manga since I bought a copy of Helsing at Media Play as a kid.
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The people who want " manga Steam " are /v/ermin normalfags who want manga to be as globohomo and censored as Japanese video games. Fuck them.
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>>287751475
Considering this thread was apparently made first and deleted on /v/, OP is probably a /v/ermin. Anyone advocated for centralized anything is a conveniencetard normalfag who's only waking life is consuming product. I'm glad copyright is so stringent in Japan. I pirate everything but the people bashing mangaka for their stance are 10x worse
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>>287751260
Horseshit
It's alive because most of the other shit in WSM is even worse
As much as the Nip audience for manga keeps shrinking, people here are way overestimating gaijin sales

Only reason nips are bitching about muh gaijin piracy is because they are failing big time in their homeland and these faggots refuse to acknowledge this fact

Look at how the Q1 2026 circulation numbers of Jump still haven't been updated to Jap wikipedia
And somehow the authority for that(JMPA www.j-magazine.or.jp/user/printed2/index ) still haven't reported numbers since December

It's probably because Jump fell under the million mark and the senile boomers at Shueisha panicked and gave JMPA hush money to not update the numbers anymore
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>>287751101
>>287751164
There's nothing to debate. You're lying like a retard by screeching that copying is theft/piracy and accusing anyone who does it of being for from some part of the world that you've dehumanized to make your retarded propaganda easier to sell. When asked for proof, you double down on being retarded despite the burden of proof being on you.

What you're doing is unpaid shill work for retards who actually steal by stealing from tax payers in the EU, and tried to suppress a study because you thought it would make your retarded propaganda any more believable.

>They're soulless husks that just consume shit from other countries

You're contradicting yourself here, as you always do. You're sucking off corporations who love consumerists. Yet here you are attacking consumerists. You are such a full blown subhuman piece of shit. Your ilk belongs in a work camp, not on the internet.
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>>287751369
>>Steam for anime/manga/light novels
>Steam be like
>here's your localized censored slop
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>>287751272
good goy
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>>287751602
For manga, everything moved to digital.
Thats why manga apps have the coin system and chapters are sliced in more than 3 parts.
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Oh my god this thread is just everyone calling op a fag and he's having a sissyfit getting butthurt and replying to everyone
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>>287751456
Yeah they're pretty much the only reason I get physical copies. The illustrations or short stories, I mean, the acrylic stands, clear files and tapestries are mostly just annoying so I very rarely get them. Even if the series get published in English, these store bonuses will never be brought over, even if they contain mini-stories.
>t. has scanned over 1000 pages of these fucking things
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>>287751604
>Surpress a study
Picrel?
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>>287747752
Green
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>>287751553
the term /v/ermin no longer means anything because you've been trying to turn it into a dog whistle for retarded newfags to dog pile on anyone who doesn't shill for corporations like you do.

you belong in a mental hospital.
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>>287751604
Holy spic schizobabble, I didn't say anything of this but or have any idea who you're obsessed about but you gotta stop shadowboxing ghosts.
I'm not sucking anyone off, but I do 100% agree and fully back spics being worth much, much less than corporations. If you live south of the Equator, you legitimately aren't a person and don't deserve to live, let alone consume media entertainment from first world civilized nations. You have no culture. You do not have a soul. You are nothing. At least global north corporations have the off chance of being built and staffed with first worlders even though that is even dwindling
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>>287751658
>only one person supports free speech

try harder, Jewcob
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>>287751701
>admits to being a /v/ermin
dogpiling you into going back
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>>287751604
>>287751687
>blockbuster stuff do not suffer from piracy effects
>the rest does
https://felixreda.eu/2017/09/secret-copyright-infringement-study/
lol, are you FilmotecaMaldita?
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>>287751701
go back to twitter or /v/, your choice they're one and the same
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>>287751644
>For manga, everything moved to digital.
Ah the good old digital cope
Nope, it doesn't work that way
Even though many publishers give out manga for free the numbers aren't as high as they expect
The interest just isn't there
Manga has declined in quality and many people moved on to other things, and the medium fails to attract new Japanese consumers because they no longer make inspirational stuff for kids like they used to

Japan still primarily buys physical
Ass you can see here >>287751187 there was a small rise from Q4 2024 to Q1 2025 before numbers plummeted again
This wouldn't have happened if everyone was moving towards digital, which it isn't happening

The fact is manga is losing money year on year
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>>287751730
>>287751742
It's interesting that we never see you ssmefag and label shills as /v/ or twitter
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>>287751760
>publishers give out manga for free
One chapter for free is not an entire manga volume for free.
Free volume manga for a limited time is when anime adaptation nears broadcast date.
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>>287751718
>you hate corporations?
>then you are hispanic and "shadowboxing ghosts"

says the retard who is actually hispanic and imagines things that never happened and will never happen
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>>287750704
why do you spam the same nonsense in every thread, always press enter once for no real reason and never show proof?
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>No response at the "suppressed" study that show piracy can cause displace on sales for smaller works.
Suddenly, is not a suppressed study
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>there are "people" in this thread who are against manga piracy and yet they post on /a/ where daily pirated chapter dumps are a norm
Don't even get me started on leaking manga spoilers, people go to prison for that. Are you guys ok posting here? You sure you won't go to hell or whatever you think happens if you pirate?
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>>287751881
>Posting a published manga is equal to posting about a manga yet to publish
Both illegal but ones takes you to hell and the other one just a slap on the wrist if you are not autistic about it.
In fact, a lot of piracy defenders are manga and anime leakers bootlickers.
Modern pirates are trule retarded
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>>287745660
cmon Urana, your fanbase are already soiling the gachiakuta name enough as it is, and you've been going down the furfag rabbit-hole for quite some time now, I think it'd be wise to save some face and just focus on writing your fucking story already holy shit
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>>287751920
see >>287751863
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smells like POORFAG in here
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>>287751824
>no u response
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>FilmotecaMaldita is the one spamming these threads
Of course is an actual cuck pushing gibberish outside his containment zone.
TMO murio y pirateria no es compartir cultura.
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>>287751881
Everyone is pro-piracy, I'm anti-moralfagging about it, anti-caring about this thread, and anti-spics bashing nip mangaka for their stance
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>>287751940
>I can't read so you are retarded
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>>287751980
i've never seen a hispanic who didn't simultaneously say

>copying a file is theft/piracy
>i'm a good guy because i will consume and let you fuck me in the ass when your service becomes available near me

the one doing "no u" is you, you self-projecting subhuman filth
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>reading her woke garbage
lmao even
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>>287751998
>>287751980
>>287752001
>>287751718
to no one's surprise, the subhuman filth who calls you a thief, hispanic and a moralfag for copying a file it turns out to be hispanic "her"self
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Is truly FilmotecaMaldita malding on this thread lol
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She didn't say anything about libraries though. Why would OP just lie like that?
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>>287751955
>t. daiz (faggot who begs for moneyvon the internet and eeches off self-purchasing sharers)
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>>287752079
That's how it is with twitter posters. I'm afraid it's terminal.
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>>287751881
I’m pro-piracy in the sense that it puts eyes on series that would never get any attention at all if it weren’t for a fan translation. But I also buy series I like when they get licensed and will sometimes buy Japanese releases when they don’t. I understand not everyone is willing to put their money where their mouth is
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>>287752079
>>287752118
>>287746005
>>287748199
samefagging retard aka shill who has been shitting up the thread with misinformation about libraries and got BTFO by >>287749182
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just get a job faggot, its not that hard.
just dont spend it on dumb shit like manga or porn
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>>287752172
>got BTFO by (some twitter poster)

Yeah I bet. Great point, faggot.
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>>287751813
No, sometimes it's upto 3 chapters
And they still don't bother reading
Not that this matters because you can find the magazines on trains or on the bargain bin or library for free
But the interest isn't there

Btw Kazuhiko Torishima also made a valid point about digital manga and kids
In addition to to an absence of manga aimed at kids, kids also don't have access to credit card so access is gatekept from them
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>>287752201
it's interesting that you going to twitter to spam your retarded propaganda and uploading "twitter screencaps" in your shill post on 4cuck doesn't make you a twitter poster and you accuse anyone who causes you to have a meltie is a twitter poster.
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>>287752126
>I’m pro-piracy

show proof it's theft.

>I understand not everyone is willing to put their money where their mouth is

why do you think a person who likes something is obligated to financially support the author? is it because your handler moshe told you so before you licked his asshole and wiped the sweat off his balls and ass?
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>>287752305
You don't even know who you're talking to any more. Don't worry, twitter has usernames for retards like you. You should go back there and stay there.
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>>287752292
There are specialized manga for the kodomo demographic like Ciao Magazine for actual little girls.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLrboWOr9HY
And it also has a web version.
Manga magazines for kids still exist, Shonen Jump aims for older kids.
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>>287748598
Ew I’m not a spic.
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>>287745660
pointless rethoric, i never paid for any manga and already readed like 100 to 150 entire series, im for a third world country and this not gonna change, her points valid or not , not going to make me change NEVER EVER paying either for video games , manga or american movies when theres piracy , sucks for them though
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>>287752326
>everyone who doesn’t give me everything for free is a jew

you have to be at least 18 to post here
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>>287748598
obsessed twitterfag continues to be obsessed
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>>287745660
FUCK OFF BACK TO TWITTER YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
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>>287752355
answer the question, you subhuman.
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>>287752590
Who are you quoting, retard?
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>>287752778
What question? You still seem confused about who you're talking to. Maybe if you go back to twitter where you belong, they can answer your hallucinated questions.
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>>287752755
>>287752629
>>287752839
since i'm a nice guy, i don't mind further dumbing down the question for you, subhuman.

why are you not a twitter poster when you use twitter, why have we never seen you sperg out about "twitter screencap" in your shill posts and why do you accuse anyone you don't like of being a twitter poster?
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>>287752901
>since i'm a nice guy

Of all your delusions this is the most hilarious, twitter-kun.
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Is this ACK?
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>>287752993
Is ACK a spic?
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>>287745660
I won't read her slop anyway, even for free, kek.
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>>287745787
>Mangaka are allowed to be annoyed that people are reading their work illegally.
Reading a manga at the library is now illegal?
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>>287745660
Pirating is always a net positive for sales and if some gook can't comprehend that I don't care to corect him.
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it doesn't matter, /a/ always posts scans and even sometimes translates them for anyone interested to read
don't know why these threads keep popping up lately
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>author makes a reasonable, thoughtful post about the issue, even if I ultimately disagree with their position
>OP replaces it with dumb ragebait with no nuance whatsoever
why do people do this? Stay on twitter, at least they pay you for (you) farming there
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>>287753995
OP is being deliberately disingenuous, the post they attached does not even mention libraries and is pretty clearly just complaining about pirate sites.
Libraries are actually one of the biggest book buyers and they benefit the publishing industry. Your average manga pirate isn't going to the library anyway, because the library only has localized tanks, and they aren't going to provide a scanlation of One Piece chapter 284937 in 30 languages the second the magazine hits store shelves in Japan.
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>>287745660
This bitch is constantly in the news for drama. I hear more about her latest Twitter meltdowns than I ever have about Gachiakuta. I guess if you can't make good manga, you have to find other ways to get attention as a mangaka.
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>>287754315
Twitterniggers bringing their drama here is the problem
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>>287754286
Yet there's little metaphysical difference in going to a library and reading One Piece or stopping midway to check One Piece in a manga site. The crux of the argument is that in either case I didn't pay to check it-a library or bookstore did.
>Your average manga pirate isn't going to the dlibrary anyway
Bizarre assumption. How do you know someone doesn't go to libraries from the unrelated fact they browsed K-manga?
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>>287745660
>I find it funny because the main characters in her work take things from people without permission.
you will say this but then disagree when a retard calls loli pedophilia
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>>287754315
Gachiakuta is good, I've been following since the first dozen chapters but boy the last arc is absolute dogshit and the author is so damn annoying, I dunno if I can keep reading much longer
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I wanted to read the yugioh gx manga in bed so I downloaded the viz app on my phone and it wasn’t there and realized there is a separate shonen jump app with a separate subscription to read it instead so I just pirated it instead
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>>287745660
Everything created by the japanese belongs to America.
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What is happening here and why you mentioning a lot the spic boogieman?
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>>287753202
Spic can be autists in very different ways. But ACK autism is something i think that no spic can reach. He is more than a decade doing the same shit.
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>>287748196
>Darkness
What a shit waifu replace with megumin thanks!
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>>287745660
I won't pay but I'm still not reading her shitty manga.
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>>287745660
>You NEED to support us and buy the physical copies!
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>>287748196
Rolling
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>>287746915
>>287747030
big machines like DDR are straight up money losers. when you think about the economics of arcade machines and the logistics, it's the smaller popular fighting ones which always give the best ROI.
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>>287752502
You don't get it.
By kids he meant primarily 8-13 year old boy demographic.
Jump especially used to be popular with this demographic.

Jump nowadays aims for fujo hags and generally banks on adults who grew up with it.

There is nothing new and noteworthy for the newer generation of children.
Thus that's why manga is doomed to fail, because today's kids aren't consuming it like our gen used to.
And you can't blame them. Look at the state of current Shonen Jump. None of the current shit in there appeals to me now let alone when I was a kid.

>B-but what about the little girls?
Oh don't even get that started.
Femoid artists have betrayed shoujo manga en masse. Most of them are fujos now.
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>>287748196
Bunch of hags, gimme Nikaidou with the funny number then
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>Know one guy that that endlessly repeats the whole "Piracy is a service problem" argument
>Series that he likes gets digital raws sold on JP Bookwalker, an official EN published hard copy release and also a digital version of it available too
>"So, did you buy from any of those stores?"
>"lmao no."

I'll be real here, most people hard stanced in supporting piracy are cheap niggers that will never ever pay for shit. They act like they're crusaders in some moral right, but more often than not, they're just jewish fucks.
I pirate shit too, but only because it ain't available where I'm from. That's why I fully advocate opening more means or storefronts to throw my fucking money at creators. I want to support your work, but goddamn make a reasonable way for me to do so. But even then, despite it being easier than ever to support the creators you like, cheap assholes will remain cheap assholes.
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>>287755022
Aren't these just not fully opened?
The Berserk one looks like a cool effect, I can see what Miura was thinking with that one

The top and the Murata one at the bottom though look bad not fully open
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>>287755022
These spreads also just have shitty composition for something intended for print. Even if there was a proper gap they'd still look bad.
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>>287754404
They wouldn't have anything to bring if she wasn't constantly sperging out on Twitter like Kamiya.
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>>287755205
Only the second one looks like it has room to open for me. Might be able to get a little more out of 1, but I'm pretty sure 3 is so open it's damaging the book spine. It's bad spread design for print either way.
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>>287745660

Without Piracy, anime would have been dead in the West besides Shonen Slop and Hentai Slop.

Its legit the only way other genre's ever got a foothold at all.
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>>287755182
Fuck off you normalfag consoomer tranny
Manga should continue declining in sales so that they stop making garbage and make good appealing manga that nips(especially jap kids) want to actually read
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>>287748196
Based. I wouldn't read her manga even if she paid me.
Rolling for a virgin.
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>>287755229
>Even if there was a proper gap they'd still look bad.
They could make it look good by having a blank space or redundant print for where the pages become unseeable due to the binding. Most don't, but some do that. Granted I think I've only ever seen it in magazines and not volumes, and those all look like volumes.
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>>287755182
Mindless coomsumer brain
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>>287755245
The Berserk one looks like a cool 3D effect
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>>287745660
learned nothing from napster
speak out against piracy and they will pirate your shit even more, maybe even actively tell other people not to read your shit because it ain't worth pirating
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>>287755262
>>287755158
I change you my Misato for your Mikoto.
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>>287755259
>>287755275
Case in point. Poorfag aren't to be taken seriously.
Or at the very least, just admit that you're a bunch of nignogs that only want handouts.

>that they stop making garbage and make good appealing manga that nips(especially jap kids) want to actually read
And you still won't pay for shit.
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>>287745660
>I find it funny because the main characters in her work take things from people without permission.
i dont care about people pirating but this is stupid fucking thing to say
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>>287755124
It's not fujos that Jump is pandering to now, it's "hood weebs." Retards who only care about fight scenes and power scaling. So the big hits nowadays are typically Saint Seiya/Bleach clones with nothing but brainless fightshit with barely any plot and a bunch of undeveloped wooden characters, and anything that tries to do something different is axed.
For the demographic of kids that WSJ used to cater towards, they'd probably be better off reading CoroCoro.
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>>287755282
This bitch probably wasn't even born back then
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>>287755299
>redditspacing
Go the fuck back you fucking tranny
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>>287755299
I actually ran out of space in my manga shelf. But cry me some more, NPC. You loser tears won't change anything.
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>>287745660
>bait
she may be too online for her own good but to be fair she did not say that
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>>287755323
Nice buzzwords. I can smell the third world poorness coming from you already.
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>>287755328
>I actually ran out of space in my manga shelf
So you can't afford to buy a new shelf? lmao. Cope more poorfag. You're the one in tears here.
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>>287755124
Kids on japan are consuming picrel today.
>Publish your silly little manga on twitter
>Gains enormous momentum
>Makes a deal with a big publisher
>Now swim on money from merch, manga sales and collaborations while your short anime have normalfag celebrities as the voice actors instead of actual seiyuus.
>Meanwhile westoids still believe anything popular is from slopnen jump while your bank account gets fat without the help of piracy and westoids
>Now every average takashi and himekawa uploads their silly little manga for free on twitter expecting to earn as much money as you
>So far they are failing miserably (because there is no SOVL no matter if it is free)
Not japan fault you are still stuck on shonen jump slop.
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>>287755299
>And you still won't pay for shit.
Exactly.
The less popular manga is outside of Japan, the better.
It was better back in the day when manga was really popular in Japan but not that popular outside it(especially in the US).
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>>287745660
>haha the mc is a poorfag that's a lot like a pirate isn't that funny xd
I can't wait until twitterfags ask Oda if he supports piracy
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>>287745660
>Publish for free on Narou
>Get picked up by Publishers
>Still sells millions of copies
LN Chads cannot stop winning.
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It's hard to take a stance in the whole piracy shitshow because it's filled with people who think their work is worth more than it actually is, but on the other side, is also filled with subhuman poorfags that makes all sorts of hilarious cope about them being poor and that makes their niggadry justified. And I hate both equally.
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>>287755349
You don't even know what to say anymore, do you, loser? Like it said no one is going to stop pirating manga just because some chronically online NPC like you is crying about it.
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>>287755398
lmao. I like how you didn't even deny being poor. Tired insults is literally the only thing you can afford.
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>>287755312
Nope. Wrong.
There are several series in Jump now with female protagonists so they are pandering to trannies with that.
Also the general art style is the amateurish pixivshit art style which trannies love.
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>>287755333
Kys deranged freak
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>>287755411
What's the point of denying anything to a peabrain like you? You're going to make poor excuses in your mind anyway.
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I'm so glad this series became the containment zone for the worst type of Western anime fan
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>>287755432
>You're going to make poor excuses in your mind anyway.
Like you are doing with the whole "I'm not buying this because... (many copes)" instead of just admitting that you're poor?
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>>287755411
says the subhuman who belongs in a work camp for doing unpaid shill work on 4chan by screeching that copying a file is theft and saying anyone who does it is brazilian
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>>287755411
Little timmy, you don't know the value of money because your mom buys everything for you.
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Piracyfags always double down when you accuse them or being poor or thirdworlders kek.
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>>287755460
More copes and projection. Stop being poor. Or at least admit that you are.
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>>287747495
This.
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I'm too poor to throw money at creatorchads...I'm sorry..
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>>287755351
>crying about westoids
>using a westoid language
>on a westoid website
~
>dedicated for the discussion of a country that wants to be westoid

least retarded newfag.
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>>287755389
Trvke
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>>287747495
Honestly, just this.
I'm from a third world country. And I'm not rich enough to spend my money on non-necessities.
Is it theft? I'm leaning yes, but eh, there's probably more nuance to it. Either way, I'm not gonna do the whole "It's a muh service problem" coping just to make myself feel better. I'm doing this shit because its free for me lmao and I'm gonna keep doing it. I'll let richer people foot the bill for me.
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>>287755351
>Kids on japan are consuming picrel today.
I mean that's fine but like I said I was talking 8-13 year old boy range
At that age I wasn't consuming babyshit like that anymore, I was consuming Dragon Ball, Naruto, Bleach, Shaman King, One Piece, Beyblade(yes I know it was serialized in CoroCoro but it was so relentless it may as well have been published in Jump, especially for today's standards), Yugioh, Death Note etc.

I'm sorry but today's kids have it so bad compared to our generation
They have nothing new for them that is high quality and creative and innovative like we did

The sales figures don't lie
All the big magazines are leaking in sales
Twitter comics are a fucking cope, they have 0 artistry whatsoever, they are bottom of the barrel trash

Nowadays Jump(still the highest selling mangazine in Japan) picks trash like Shiro Usazaki from Pixiv
There are less and less mangaka who can actually draw well in the industry, partly because they never studied art in university and stuff and they never learned how to draw realistically, so they miss all the fundamentals
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>>287755435
True. This and WHA are containment zones for them.
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>>287755526
Grim
Japan has fallen
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>>287755380
Narou is dogshit and if you look up the Re-Zero sales the RoI is mediocre for a series that is now over a decade old

It's low risk trash, that's why
Barely above hentai
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This thread is too schizophrenic for me
Two things can be true
Authors can be made their shit is being pirated
And you can just go ahead and pirate anyways who gives a fuck

Explain to me why the author being mad about piracy suddenly means you can't pirate? Did they directly affect you into not being able to? I don't understand this shit
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>>287755464
>>287755446
>>287755182
>i have a friend who said he'd financially support a creator
>then he didn't do it when he could
>trust me geuise
>why would i go on the internet to lie???
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>>287755375
Oda signed that anti-piracy thing
He is such a giant faggot
Toriyama would never
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>>287755562
>said he'd financially support a creator
He actually didn't explicitly say that now that I think about it. He just preached the whole "Piracy is a service problem" argument just to seem like he has a say in the matter. And lo and behold, when a service made itself available, he didn't do jack shit for it. Just goes to show that most of the people spouting that shit is just doing lip service.

It's the old
>"We need to do something about a problem"
>Decent solution to problem arises
>People don't make effort to utilize solution
cycle.
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>>287755375
Isn't Oda the name of that faggot who wears a Guevara t-shirt, defends Americans destroying countries, says you're a criminal if you copy a computer file, stole the bible and made it worse, and has a retarded fanbase?
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>>287755562
For once, this is the most believable thing I’ve ever heard on this site.
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>>287755182
shipping is expensive as shit
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>>287755526
>Only kids consume chiikawa
RUMAO even
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>>287755633
>there is a simple solution to the juice problem but I'm too afraid to implement it, so that's why copying a file is theft

Smartest post in the thread.
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>>287755182
>says copying a computer file is theft/piracy
>refuses to prove it
>says only subhumans don't give money to every store that exists

the only subhuman is you and your ilk.

the reason you screech that everyone must give money to every store that exists is because you're a subhuman as only a subhuman is retarded enough to fall for the retarded hoax that it's theft/piracy and tries to wash the non-existent sin away by screeching that.

see >>287748598
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>>287755299
you remind me of that piece of shit artist who worships those cunts that try to establish monopoly on """""copyright infringement""""" (fakku) and simultaneously say copying a computer file is theft and that "thieves" never pay.

it's almost as if you shills have handlers who coordinate with each other.

https://www.x.com/masochist_high/status/2045010118476283962
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>>287745787
Think of it like this
I make a book
I never ever plan to release it to the French and even explicitly state do not release it in france
The French get my book and read it
Did I lose money? Did I lose value?
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>>287748196
Rollan'
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>>287745660
Why is this even a controversial take? She's only saying please understand their perspective.
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They don't care about western audiences to judge if a piece of media is economically viable, why should they care about pirating their shit
They are just mad that the didn't think they could get extra revenue overseas
I will keep pirating shit if they don't give me the means to buy their shit
As Gabe Newell said: "Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem"
This is why the only VNs I buy on Steam all have +18 patches
Actually Gaben even mentions that pirates will localize media instead of official publishers out of lack of options
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imf-QeQCexk
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>>287755942
What's stopping the French from learning the language and reading it as you intended?
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>>287756455
Nothing, but you lose sales from all non-French learners. That means they can pirate your book since they were never going to lean French. It's not even your book anyway since it was localized.
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>>287756610
You got everything backwards.
The book was written in a language other than French and not knowing a language doesn't justify piracy.
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>>287756637
Why not? They didn't learn it so it isn't a lost sale.
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>>287756705
Ignorance is no excuse.
People that actually took the effort aren't entitled to less.
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>>287756797
Why is the writer entitled to decide for other people that they need to learn Indonesian?
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>>287756856
Why do people need to read Malaysian books if they don't know Indonesian?
The writer has the authority on which translations are released according to the Berne Convention.
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>>287756374
>"Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem"
That shit flushed away when Denuvo came into the scene.
also
>Pricing problem
RUMAO
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I have never bought any manga or paid to watch any anime, whats the problem? it's still doing fine
>>287748196
yea
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>>287757074
Too late to complain.about a xitter screencap when the OP is a xitter screencap lul
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>>287745660
If you make this thread again you are getting a ban. This is your final warning.
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>Poorfag ask for sympathy against mangakas who are anti-piracy since on xitter all they had is "Japan rapes little kids" card to counter argumemt which got old pretty fast
>Ask for sympathy on 4chan
>Gets BTFO
The pirate fags /here/ HATE third worlders more than spending money on manga.
Your kind was never welcome here; go back to.facebook to earn pity points.
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anime is too easy to watch illegally.
unironically i believe pirate streams should be taken down, if not at least be gatekeeped.
i don't understand why we are promoting piracy to the normies. yes that was the norm 10 years ago, when simucasting was obviously not a thing with Japanese TV. now streaming exists.
and yes, torrents will always be a thing. piracy will never really die. but normies pulling their weight and paying a Netflix or a CR subscription every now and then will do the industry good. even if you are living in the 3rd world you can pay 60 bucks a year. and don't tell me how CR has a small library. 90% of weebs watch exactly those shows.
pay for my sakuga entitled fags.
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here's the thing: PC gaming changed in the late 2000s
steam took a market of pure cheap stake pirates and turnt them into half paying fags (at least during sales)
the same is happening with anime because of streaming.
on a different note, i love torrents but i don't even know why you guys support shit like hianime anyway. those fags run ads. they are parasites. fuck them.
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has anyone considered I just shat myself?
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>>287746541
>Pirating is good but pirate sites should go down
>It should be technically difficult to pirate so the third world is kept out
this but unironically. for example why is nintendo going so hard even in poorfag latin america? because even the random zoomer spic paying once in a blue moon matters.
i mean the only reason you fags support streaming sites so fucking hard to the detriment of the actual industry is that some of you probably own streaming sites and you run ads.

>>287757082
>it's still doing fine
yeah, the anime industry is never going to just disappear but it can get better. i want big flashy animation in the movie theatre. the fact that some of you are just spamming retarded excuses means you are just tourists if you ask me. watching jjk at the cinema was awesome. anime doesn't exist so some neet fags can post memes. it exists for me. so pay up fags. it's literally pennies anyway.
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>>287757544
the switch is very versatile for what you pay and their local nintendo online stores scales the prices down
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>>287756374
No, there's several games that are readily available I'd rather pirate.
Anime too. I'm not paying for that shit. Take your gayben and shove it up his faggot ass.
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>>287757693
>Take your gayben and shove it up his faggot ass.
you don't have to buy anything. just stop pretending that pirate streams have a reason to be the mainstream way to consume anime. like it or not streaming changed anime. no one is telling you to buy bluray imports or expensive merch. but a subscription is approachable even for poorfags.

pic not mine. lol.
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>>287757544
I didn't make any excuse at all and I haven't been to the theatre in years. Never will go again either. I'm more than happy with just more manga really
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>>287746123
> poorfags
Whoso mocketh the poor reproacheth his Maker: and he that is glad at calamities shall not be unpunished.
—Proverbs 17:5
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>>287745660
uh oh
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>>287749716
If there's no one pirating niche shit, niche shit never gets official TLs, and in other cases they take licenses and do fuck all with them.

All current systems are shit. Everyone pirates all forms of media (including fucking newspapers, web articles, journals etc), until such time as a system exists where nothing is taken down, nothing disappears or gets slapped with added paywalls, everyone can get fucked that complains.

Either way, some idiot reading your mag-release chapter of the manga, is some negligible level of income to a WSJ author, volumes and merch are where your money is.
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>>287745660
Why are we having so many of these threads lately?
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>>287747058
That's unfortunately down to jewtube and people being idiots checking out every random channel that reacts to ep/chp 1 of your current fotm favourite. Probably the same for the VFX slaves on tentpole movies, they earn subsistence for the scenes/weeks they're used and some guy with big channel rakes in $10k for a 15min single vid, or more if they yap on a lot.
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>>287757836
It doesn't matter if it's mainstream or not. Piracy will always exist. Complaining about it won't make it go away, you're arguing against an unrelenting tide.
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no physical copy = I pirate
Simple as

I will not pay for some 1s an 0s
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>>287745660
Are mangakas supposed to like you doing something illegal?
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>>287745660
Hellsing's mangaka Kouta Hirano said that if you pirated his work you should get prostate cancer.
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>>287756455
The majority of normal, working people don't have the time to learn a language as retarded as Japanese.
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>>287746640
isn't that what one punch man and overlord did?
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I hope mangaka being exposed to the worst of the western '''fans'' convinces them to never cater to non-Japanese.
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>>287745660
I await the day when a mangaka,book writer,actor or video game program gets hit with something like Quiet content monkey and chimps out
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>>287758504
I thought the overlord faggot was a moralfag who keeps saying he's cutting volumes because westernfags are pirating it too much.
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>>287748696
The mangaka begging ass bitch should sit her ass down with a professional consultant and check what her options are if she doesn't want to get into business herself. Begging on the internet is just not how anything happens but that's how people with no damn sense of shame are. That's like a real estate agent getting on the internet and saying please come through and buy yourself a duplex from me alright? I don't even know if that's a good comparison maybe it's not but you have to comprehend the fact that this is not how things are moving.
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Where did all these retards come from who hate the creators of the anime/manga we love?
Pirate all you want, we all do, but don't rub it in the authors face.
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>>287758539
I wouldn't be surprised, but I think he started from a free web novel before rewriting it as an official light novel (and whoring it out to every other type of media).
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>>287758539
He chimped out on Twitter because there was a fanTL of a novel that wasn't available in English. He was saying that English fans had no right to read something that was made for Japan. I hope he kills himself.
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>>287745660
A lot of the problem is straight up service quality problems. If you look on the VIZ app for example, some manga there have over half the chapters be unavailable, like pic.

It ain't just about paying, there's some official services that are like $2-$3 monthly. It's crap like this too.
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>>287758555
Like that fan who congratulated Kubo for his birthday and spoke of Gin's bankai despite the chapter not dropping yet.
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>>287756374
He's right, i can't be bothered to pirate games anymore. With manga it's a different story right now as the pricing is ridiculous for English manga and it is trivial to pirate.
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>>287758555
The creators turned into woke moralists who shame and try to justify the nanny state governments.
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>>287758576
>English fans had no right to read something that was made for Japan
Based anti-globalist. If only the west had this mindset maybe it wouldn't be such a shithole. Notice how Hollywood movies are fucking dogshit? Anime/manga is good precisely when it doesn't cater to westerners.
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>>287756374
Also, there were people paying decent sums to get around official lack of support in countries where the games weren't released. In other words, there's products that have no option but to pirate thanks to a lack of official releases.
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We need more manga where MC has sex with 3 tomboys at the same time.
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>>287756374
I would pay for manga if the following requirements were fulfilled

A: English translation drops the same day as Japanese release
B: It's highres scans or physical release
C: The price isn't extortionate

Since this doesn't seem to be happening as the Japanese can't be bothered to earn foreign money, I'll keep pirating just as Gaben says. I have legitimately bought visual novels that have good (non-tranny) translations before when pirating them would have been easy as I want to support the creator.
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>>287749716
>Most of anime's popularity in the west came through official channels. (...) got big on TV,
And you paid for it in USA? In 1st world countries they aired on public channels, for free

>was always negligible
That's my point, it's only now that the big companies smell the money that they will take foreign public in consideration and of course the potential world population is more than Japan's
Because we didn't exist as far as they were concerned, the domestic market was the only market and everything else was a plus
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yeah im poor and I spend my money on comiket CDs and M3 indie CDs so I dont have disposable extra cash to buy overpriced manga man. Ill just read it off whatever godforsaken aggregator has the latest chapter. If I had the money Id buy it, but I dont, but I want to read it, so I will, and thats that. Good day to you.
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>Corpos still act like someone pirating their shit means they lost a sale
Lol
Lmao even.
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>>287758681
Do you pay for the manga where that's happening? Or do you make up other excuses like DRM, needing apps or costing money?
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>>287758791
and what manga is that happening for perchance
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>>287758555
Social media was a mistake. Now you realize how many artists and writers are humongous faggots and don't deserve the respect they demand for creating mediocre shit.
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I didn't read anything in this thread I just came here to say I will never buy manga but I sure will read it as much as I want.
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>>287754286
If libraries were invented today they would be illegal
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>>287745787
>you don't even need to download anything.
bro doesn't know how the internet works
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>>287745660
its not like us horrible gaijin are the ones who actually scanned and uploaded the content though.
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>>287745660
>gets a modicum of success
>instantly gets uppity
The instant her manga does poorly you can bet shell be back to begging for pirate cock
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>>287758476
I think its fair if you wish anus tonguing upon the people who pirate your work but dont be a moralfag about it
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>>287746385
Game developer here (50,000+ sales on Steam), I am glad if people who can't afford to buy my game pirate it.

Unless you're in financial trouble, piracy should not be an issue for you.
What does the mangaka in the OP need more money for?
If you make enough to pay for groceries and rent, you don't need more money.
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>>287758816
Manga Up, K-Manga, VIZ, etc. Just search for simulpub manga.
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>>287758951
Nowadays it's all ripped from official digital releases. Even before that the scanning was all done by foreign nationals. Just look at the people arrested for leaks.
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>>287759013
It's always morally justifiable to pirate shit and the mangaka is a cunt for saying otherwise.
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>>287759028
I pirate everything in existence, I guess I'm just at peace with not needing other's approval.
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Unless its free and fully available, I'm pirating it. Simple as.
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>>287759172
Stop lying. You also pirate things that are free and fully available.
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>>287746582
You got it. Also check your email, we've promoted you to janitor ;)
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>>287759013
kill yourself /pol/tard
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>>287745660
She only even chimed in on this shit because retarded Brazillians were DIRECTLY asking her if it was okay to read pirated scans of the manga on a discord server somewhere.

A common trend lately among gen alpha and later zoomers is that they can't just fucking stay hush when it comes to piracy. They've always gotta openly blab about it and be smug - constantly seeking validation.
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The freemasons are scared that people will know that anime literally shows how they are harrassing people around the world and present it as entertainment so they are unifying their legal front like disney did.


ufologist mentioned "passport to magonia" in mass and now they are extinct too.



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