>>287814574
They’re just retarded

>>287814574
they're 14 years old

>>287814574
>Why do dub watchers even exist?
they're mentally behind
they cannot watch and read at the same time. there's some neurology that explains the workings of these brains but that's too much autism to post

They want to multitask while watching a show. That's why 93% of viewers choose dubbed

>>287814919
bait

>>287814574
There are a small number of shows where I feel it enhances the experience, typically stuff thats set outside of japan and in places that are not japan inspired. But mostly I do watch in japanese.

>>287814938
Voice actors in Japan pretend they are doing stage acting.

>>287814574
Some(most) people just have really low standards.

>>287814955
Seiyuus are amongst the best voice actors in the world, if not the best. You’re not fooling anyone.

>>287814971
>Seiyuus are amongst the best voice actors in the world, if not the best.
LMAO

>>287814971
They have no range and can only play one trope each.

>>287814574
Blind people, near blind people

>>287814989
Tell me who’s better. At the very least they’re on par with the VAs of the best in English-language western animation and video games.
>>287814990
What are you even doing here?

>>287815016
refute the claim

Dub watchers can't read quickly enough to watch a show with subtitles. They're academically impaired.

The ability to tolerate poor voice work is just a sign of being uncultured.

>>287814919
English VAs all sound the same(like shit). They can't even place emphasis on or pronounce words correctly despite being native English speakers.

>>287814574
the reddit in this thread is crazy

>>287815032
The claim that Japanese VAs suck? That’s an insanely shit take. Kill yourself, dubnigger.

My knowledge of Japanese language isn't good enough to know if a VA is good or not.
All I can tell you is when I hear an American woman talking it immediately illicits a panic response.

>>287815373
In anime or just in general

>>287815426
Both.
English accents on the other hand are really nice. Every dub should use English VA's exclusively.

>>287814574
Because they think hearing stuff not in their language is weird.

Normalfags are literally that narrowminded.

>>287814919
But enough about Spain's dub industry

The same japanese VAs that do anime also do dubs for japanese releases of major Hollywood movies. That's how serious the japanese VA industry is
Now compare english dub anime VAs to A list Hollywood actors doing animation voice work. The difference is night and day.

Whenever I see someone compare english anime/game dub quality to japanese VAs as if they're even remotely comparable, I know I'm dealing with a massive fucking moron

I unironically think those that watch dubs should be executed and turned into slop for pigs to eat

>>287814574
I choose the language that makes the most sense to hear given the setting.
Set in Japan? Original.
Set in America or in the future where English would be a universal language? Dub.
Simple as.

>>287814574
I don't even do that. I just mute the audio altogether because fuck all voice acting.
I now await your "die, pedo" and "kys, nigger" comments.

I liek aoi yuuki or whatever her name is

>>287814574
Caring about what language other people watch anime in and getting mad about it online is a sign of having severe micropenis and repressed homosexuality. You are a sterilized, public school brainwashed, brown monstrosity hated by your parents and unfuckable for life. You will never be a woman and no one will ever care about your opinion on anything.

pathetic bait honestly

>>287816036
no, not even then

>>287814574
You are not supposed to start a thread with an absolute fact, that's not entertaining.

>>287816688
watching dubfags seethe is entertaining

>>287815766
Ita a bit more then that.
Seiyuus in Japan also have the idol industry to back them up

>>287814574
They are incapable of reading or reading fast enough to match the dialogue in the anime.

>>287816067
>>287816375
Dubfags get so angry easily lmao, so fragile

>>287814574
They can't read.

>>287814574
Same for the people that watch full 3dcg anime, I can't understand why would someone do that to himself willingly.

>>287816813
What are some examples of full 3dcg anime?

>>287816658
Yeah bro lemme just watch the Cyberpunk 2077 anime in japanese even though they got the original voice actors back. Immersion can be more important than acting talent.

>>287814919
>all sound the same
Your english subbed slop is literally voice acted by less than a handful of nepo voice actors in a union lmfao

>>287816823
Bubuki Buranki, Berserk 2016, Ajin

I prefer english dubs for older stuff. Those English VAs tend to be fun. Japanese is a gay and cucky language to listen to.

>>287816871
Idk shit about anime but using cg for exposition and dialogue seems extremely lazy

Japanese have great VA talent but god damn do high pitch Jap female voices hurt my ears. Especially if it's supposed to somehow be a 40 year old woman in the story. They really talk like that? Jesus

>>287814574
Why bother posting this in a place where everyone agrees with you? Everything is just trolling or anons playing devil's advocate.

>>287816813
Eh if it's something like Knights of Sidonia, I can get over it if the setting is just too cool.

>>287816927
I think watching dubbed is fine, everyone is multitasking so if you watch dubbed you can still hear what is happening whilst you shitpost on 4frens. Unless you know Japanese of course

Frieren's ENG dub makes me irate

>>287815032
Any claim made without evidence can be refuted without evidence.

>>287816882
On this note, I fucking hate modern English VAs due to >>287816864. But some of my favorite roles are:
- Tsukasa from .hack//Sign
- Remy from Black Lagoon
- Kino
- Naota from FLCL (Laharl from Disgaea)
- Al from Gundam WitP (fun fact: David Hayter is Bernard! The Solid Snake inflection is pretty subtle)
- Michael Kopsa as Char Aznable (Quattro gets a different VA in Zeta, what a shame...)

I know I'm in the minority here but I really do sincerely enjoy dubs.

>>287816864
>a handful of nepo voice actors in a union lmfao
That's also how cartoons and video games work.

>>287816927
Because it’s fun making dubfags seethe
>>287816964
>I think watching dubbed is fine
Gonna have to stop you right there

>>287817253
Liek 90% of anime watchers use dubbed tho. If they're enjoying it what's the problem?

I wonder where do dubfags even come from? there was a period in the 90s and 2000s where if you only watched anime on tv you were stuck with dubs, but any time before that you were stuck with bootleg fansub tapes and after that you had simulcast streams with official subs. does netflix dub anime or something?

Why do people read translated manga? It's the same crap as dubs.

>>287817427
>does netflix dub anime or something?
Yes. They also have it as the default audio track, so your average normalfag retard typically doesn't even know "anime" is from Japan and is originally voiced in Japanese.

>>287814574
They're many animes for kids. I guess it makes sense on those cases. But as an adult, yeah, it's newfag behavior

>>287817748
Kids can read. Dubs stunt their development.

Check these dubs haha

>>287816375
you just have no empathy for others
we're angry FOR them. We know they would enjoy a show so much more if they were to watch it in higher quality, but instead they choose to watch it with shit voice acting because people told them that's "also the right choice" and are too dumb to question that.

>>287814574
Dubbing industry is a sign of a proper country. If you don't have movies and TV shows dubbed in your country language, you live in a colony.
The only reason dubs are bad is when the industry doesn't care about anime dubs and considers it low-tier job.

>>287814574
What's worse is they slop up localization dubs that insert tons of political shit. It's happened a number of times and only recently has japan even started to notice.

>>287816941
god i wish it had gotten a real adaptation

>>287814574
It's genuine retardation
All media should be engaged with in as close to the original language as you can get. This means the REALLY optimal way is to learn the way of the thousand-folded tongue, but even for avid watchers this is too much of a hassle to do. At that point, the second best is to read translated subtitles. It gets as close as it can to the original without having to put in that large amount of effort
The only justification for watching dubbed anime is if you literally are illiterate and need to hear it spoken lol
If you can read, then read the fucking subs you pleb

>>287818710
Counterpoint: for live action shows it is impossible to watch the actors emoting and read the subs at the same time.
To take in the actors emoting, the different cinemetography etc, dubbed is a better format.
It will be even better when A.I can change the mouth movements to match the dub too - it's literally the best of both worlds.

The english dubs always sound like they were recorded from inside a submarine

>>287818772
All pre-2000s anime with the regular audio it sounds like you can hear the actual fucking booth they recorded in

>>287818727
Sure you can. And the best solution is actually knowing the language, not AI garbage.

>>287818727
>Counterpoint: for live action shows it is impossible to watch the actors emoting and read the subs at the same time.
why do dub watchers continue to make this silly argument? It's a skill that you automatically learn. Basically, all you do is take a quick glance at the subtitles and then your eyes go back to the main view. Even if you don't understand what you just saw in that split second, your memory and peripheral vision then "read" it during the actual talking.
Of course, unless you're one of those retards that are sitting way too close to a monitor/tv that is way too big. I've noticed this with some videogame streamers. At the top of the screen a text box appears that says "Item gained: Potion" and they then wonder over and over again "I don't get, I click on steal, but it didn't say what I stole." because of their retarded monitor setting.

>>287818795
Ok let me just learn 10 languages so I can watch foreign films !!! Wow you are so intelligent

Because Japan voices are fucking shit, they can't even pronounce English worlds lmao nips are retards

>>287816813
>>287816823
Go watch Kemono Friends right now faggots, you're missing out on a masterpiece.
And Tesagure Bukatsumono too.

>>287818812
You pick up languages by watching subbed content, watching a dub just wastes your time.

>>287818808
Wrong. Sometimes dialogue happens thick and fast. Characters are describing complex things quickly whilst emoting. You simply can't get the full context of the dialogue and also take in the actors performance without missing something.

>>287818812
People 200 years ago did this unironically in order to read books. If you didn't know at least 5 languages you were a pleb.
But the modern anxiety-inducingly fast-pasted lifestyle gives people no time to learn languages between wageslaving and doomscrolling

>>287818847
>also take in the actors performance without missing something.
You're missing far more by replacing all the audio.

>>287818832
You don't pick up languages watching subbed content unless it's subbed in the language you already don't understand

>>287814937
this is the anime equivalent of watching a streamer play a video game and then claiming that you played the game

>>287818857
You don't pick it up in the true sense of learning the language, but you pick up enough to understand some of the flavor of the original.
Especially if the subs have TL notes

>>287818869
Most shows are slop that aren't worthy of being anything more then background noise.

>>287818880
They don't do TL notes anymore. I've never seen one at least. Also can you even trust the translation?

>>287818920
No translation retains 100% of information contained in the original text. You should be able to trust the translation, because translator's job is to convey as much information as possible while making the output translation readable. Translators shouldn't inject their own biases, political views and ideas.
The fact that you can't trust an American translator says a lot about the state of affairs in the country. It's literally worse than it was in the Soviet Union: at least Soviet translators generally scorned the changes they had to impose due to government oversight, while these creatures mutilate works of art at their own volition and with unabashed glee.

>>287816921
It's their stage voice, for some reason they think it sounds good. IRL they have same range of voice you'd expect from regular people.

>>287814574
I'm not a massive weeb like u ok.

>>287818857
How many languages have you learned?

>>287818881
then don't watch them?

>>287819901
Just English (poor)

>>287814950

As I said, the one anime I know of that's better than the Japanese dub is Carried by the Wind: Tsukikage Ran. Mona Marshall was funnier as the eponymous protagonist than Reiko Yasuhara.

>>287818920
> They don't do TL notes anymore. I've never seen one at least
Old anime still exist
> Also can you even trust the translation?
Can you trust a dub?

>>287814900
Please do post this neurology autism if you can. I'm interested

>>287816964
I'm more angered when someone has the stupidest fucking takes than watching a dub these days. I had a friend who hates dubs so much and watches exclusively subs. Somehow he watched all of attack on Titan and thought the ending was genius and was not even trolling. What's the point of watching it subbed when you can't even process what is good or bad anymore. I had a friend who watched rezero and thought Subaru rejected rem while forgetting rem rejected him first until I brought it up. What's the point of watching a show subbed if you're just incapable of actually taking anything meaningful from it or just speed watch it. And I only bring up these two shows up because these are the most basic, simple shows to watch and understand.

>>287814900
>>287814855
>>287816797
>There are /a/none who actually believe they are intelligent for watching a cartoon with subtitles
Underage and retarded...

>>287821878
youre either smart or retarded, theres nothing in between

>>287821851
Weird thing to complain about. The dubnigger you're replying to is defending just leaving something on in the background to pad your anniemay list and people who watch anime on 1.5x speed are also overwhelmingly dubniggers for convenience reasons.

>>287814574
High IQ vs low. Simple as that.

>>287814950
Enhance might be overstating, but for me, some English dubs are equal to good Japanese dubs, though Japanese dubs can be subpar. I might be biased, as English is my second language.

>>287814574
A lot of anime I watched as a kid was on television dubbed. I never developed a distaste dubs nor a preference for it. Now that I have kids and a home of my own I can't keep my eyes glued to the TV it's become a choice half watch/listen to the dubs or stop watching anime all together.

>>287826011
Imagine watching anime without watching the animation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqcNg7Ltp5s

>>287814574
Sometimes subtitles do not exist. So your choice is either watch raws, or watch shitty dub.

>>287814900
Pause button exist, Anon. Your meme became irrelevant together with TVs.

>>287814574
because they don't care if its bad they like by default if its in English. any amount of reasoning doesn't matter since they will use the "its subjective" excuse everyone uses to have bad takes. They have reached a conclusion and worked backwards from there.

So long as you don't finance it I think it's fine. But you cannot in good conscience support thinks like netfux, crunchyroll, and amazog. Crunchyroll probably has the most cuckolded video titles in the industry. Every single one is some manner of sub-saharan ebonics, it isn't subtle. The roof korean meme holds sway...

>>287817701
Did you know that Netflix won’t release anime they’ve licensed until they’ve dubbed it into other languages? Meaning it can be airing in Japan but you have no way of officially watching it in America without sailing the high seas until it gets dubbed. They won’t even release it only in Japanese with English subtitles, first. It’s why Kaoru Hana wa Rin to Saku’s US release was delayed. And the dub for that is horrific.

>>287830681
>but you have no way of officially watching it in America without sailing the high seas until it gets dubbed.
You can use a VPN.

>>287823357
If you really had a high IQ, you’d learn Japanese instead of relying on shitty, inaccurate, localized subtitles

>>287816375
BASED

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>>287814950
>>287816036
Same here. I do think the OG Japanese dubs are better for the most part, but there are some where the English dub is as good if not better than they are. That hasn't been true for awhile but there are shows from the 90s and 2000s that exemplify that rule like Trigun, Cowboy Bebop, Outlaw Star, etc.

>>287825420
Some shows like GiTS: SAC (both seasons), Witch Hunter Robin and other 2000s philosophical crime-thrillers a pretty talented cast of English VAs deliver the voices along with the aforementioned shows.

>>287815373
>>287815466
Relatable on both fronts although it's more annoyance than fear. The accents of American chicks in older anime tended to be more chill outside of the obvious cunt characters though. Different times I suppose.

>>287832664
There is not a single dubbed anime that is even on par with the original Japanese. Even the "good" ones are still mid at best and still inferior to the OG version.

>>287833340
Yeah lemme just watch the Cyberpunk 2077 anime and switch to an alternate reality where everyone in california speaks japanese somehow.

>>287833470
>Cyberpunk 2077
The dub is shit compared to the original Japanese

Subfags be like "just learn japanese bro" as if that's even possible

>>287828910
>They have reached a conclusion and worked backwards from there

A subfag saying this is really funny.

>>287833500
>Deibido

>>287833619
You have to go, tourist

>>287833566
>>287833618
Fuck off my board, dubnigger.

>>287814574
Panty and Stocking with Garter belt works better as a dub because it’s inspired by western “adult” animation.

>>287833650
>subfag is a raceist

>>287833679
That dub is shit, it tries too hard with overuse of profanity, and gets rid of the glorious Engrish an the Demon Sisters' rolling r's
>>287833684
>dubfag is xenophobic

>>287833632
Nah, stay mad though.

>>287833650
>my

Not yours, and no.

>>287833707
>Oh no, not the heckin’ profanity in my anime!

>>287814574
Because it pisses (you) off

>>287816864
>handful of nepo voice actors
And the Japanese versions aren't? Lmao

>>287833710
>>287833717
>>287833810
>>287833834
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning?

>>287833901
Didn't eat breakfast properly isn't it?

>>287833901
>He eats 3 meals a day
What a fucking normalfag

>>287833901
I didn’t; extended-release Concerta suppresses my appetite.

>>287814574
because female nips have the most grating shrill voices I've ever heard, yeah it so great how everything you say is like an obnoxious hysterical 12 year old girl.

>>287814574
>Why do dub watchers even exist?
These days it's all about watching without actually watching. Subs require 100% of your attention unlike dubs. With dubs you understand the language so you can just listen and not miss any information while you doomscroll on your phone. We're in very bleak times.

Sometimes the dub is good and worth watching for its own sake. Sometimes the setting is such that it's weirder to hear the cast speaking Japanese than English. Sometimes comedy shows are funnier to me when I can fully comprehend nuances of expression in my own language. There are any number of reasons that sub purists have been given yet continually refuse to consider.

I mostly watch in Japanese, largely because good dubs aren't as common as I'd like (though nowhere near as uncommon as a sub purist would insist) and because I do genuinely enjoy the language. But if the dub enhances the viewing experience for me, or if I just happen to vibe with it, then I don't see anything wrong with partaking.

>>287817033
Why?

>>287834269
Frieren's voice does not match her character at all

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Attention dubniggers, it's easier to get into subs if you force the text format to be as clear of a font as possible, white with a black outline is visible on any surface, and between the middle of the screen and bottom so that your eyes don't have to move as far.
Good ASS subtitles let you edit just the text for dialogue, while leaving sign and song translations in their original spots.
Pic related is MPV with my patented "retard mode" subtitle format

>>287834303
I disagree. And I appreciate the contrast between her eternally youthful appearance and her more mature voice. Same with Serie.

>>287834372
I'm going to keep watching subs *and* dubs as I please, and you *are* going to die mad about it

>>287834424
It's okay to be wrong

>>287834372
I don't know why you think choosing dubs over subs is an accessibility problem. It isn't. I have no problem watching subs, I'm just not gonna if there's a good dub.
>inb4 "good dub"
Fist of the North Star this season is an example of an actually bad dub and what I assume subshitters are talking about when they assert that all dubs are bad. They're not.

>>287834424
Sein, Wirbel and Ubel are also really good.

>>287834448
>>287834467
I'm the anon saying that I'll choose English if the show's setting makes sense for it. Just saying that you can make sub watching as painless and braindead experience as possible.
One of my main problems was constantly moving my eyeballs up down up down up down when the subtitles are shoved to the very bottom.

>>287834454
Right and wrong have no place in appreciation of art. If you have a personal problem with my opinion, come over here and disconnect my internet.

>>287834493
Fair, and it was good advice. My bad anon

>>287834467
>Sein, Wirbel and Ubel are also really good

Agreed

It's a pity that only high dollar productions like Frieren tend to get a solid dub cast, but I like to appreciate them when I get them

You already got your answers but am just here to tell you to eat a dick,and you posted literally 3d pig disgusting and am sure intentionally because you enjoy being a pest

>>287814574
Anime doesn't warrant elitism like this anymore and it never did

>>287834658
Elitism is how you keep undesirables that ruin everything out. Gatekeeping is 100% necessary

>>287834715
Growth and change are inevitable. The things you love will never remain as they are forever, and if your love for them doesn't change with them, it'll be left behind

>>287834424
>And I appreciate the contrast between her eternally youthful appearance and her more mature voice.
Nonsense. Why is the contrast a good thing? The voice doesn't match the character and she is completely miscast.

>>287834866
Alex Kurtzman ahhh dialogue

>>287834971
You know I'm right. And even if I'm not, it's delusional to think anybody can gatekeep anything these days, especially anime now that's massively mainstream

>>287835093
I don't even know what you said because you write like a faggot

>>287835093
Why would you want normies in your hobbies that demand said hobbies change to be more acceptable to them? Tourists are why we have issues with things like censorship and awful localization in anime and games

>>287834921
>Why is the contrast a good thing?

Simply because I like it. There doesn't need to be another reason, though I do have a few. And in any case, you don't seem able to actually explain why Rodak's voice is ill suited.

>>287835166
Then I'll write it again in retardese for you: the shit you like will never stay the same no matter what you do, and you're setting yourself up for bitter disappointment by failing to recognize and accept that

>>287835210
Because she sounds like a 40-something with a mommy voice when that isn’t Frieren’s character at all

>>287835210
It's clear from the audience response to her voice. They think of Frieren as a sort of motherly, mature character when she isn't like that at all.
If the dub audience as a whole has misinterpreted her character, it's a huge miscast and a terrible blunder.

>>287835253
And then they’ll counter argue with “but she’s old!” but forget that she’s of a race that ages extremely slowly. Physically, Frieren is closer to a teenager or petite early 20s young adult than a middle aged woman.

I’ll always be thankful for dubs because I wouldn’t have gotten into anime as a kid in the first place without them. Things like Toonami really got the ball rolling for many of us Americans. But there comes a point where you have to grow up and realize that dubs are inferior bastardizations of the original, and learn to get comfortable and appreciate foreign media with the assistance of subtitles.

>>287835253
You know, you have to wonder if they actually hold auditions and not simply pick the first person from the Crunchyroll dungeons/off the street.

>>287835207
The supposed tourist problems that everyone crows about are massively overstated and often bordering on hysterical. But to answer your question, it's because more stuff gets made if more people want it. I can accept anime being more popular and accessible if it means I get to share it with more people, especially since that allows me to turn them on to shows and books that I like that they may never have heard of otherwise

>>287835343
I know Bang Zoom has literally been picking people from conventions since the 2010s.

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>>287835343
Rodak is actually a veteran in the industry. They likely didn’t hold auditions at all for the role lmao
>>287835352
>I actually want my hobbies to get worse!
You retard. Pic related. The problem is that these people don’t actually want to join the hobby, but change it.

I don't want to hear an amerifat speak, ever.

>>287834715
It ruined Sci-fi, comics, cartoons, toys, cars, wrestling, politics, history, conspiracies and religion. That's the problem.

When you gatekeep, it just ruins it for everyone, even the ones doing the gatekeeping.

>>287835352
>anime is more popular and accessible
>they start making anime for the foreign audience
>anime starts turning into disney slop
no thank you!

>>287835419
>hey likely didn’t hold auditions at all for the role lmao
I wouldn't be shocked if the industry doesn't do it at all these days. Not just in English, but in Japan. And more than just anime, but media period.

>>287835437
lol no, a lack of gatekeeping has actually made those worse

>>287835463
prove it. Give one example of each.

>>287835461
The dub industry is nothing but a massive clique. It’s why it’s full of untalented trash. Also, if you’re even the slightest talented at acting, you aren’t gonna be a dub VA.

>>287835253
Not every member of the audience thinks that. I certainly didn't on my first watch.

Besides, I'd argue that part of Frieren's growth as a character is that she becomes more of the person you describe as she chooses to engage with the world and with people

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>>287835458
>>anime starts turning into disney slop

It hasn't though, you're just saying that. Worse, you aren't even the one saying it, you're just parrotting

>>287835509
>Also, if you’re even the slightest talented at acting, you aren’t gonna be a dub VA.
Problem is, the VA industry has this issue across all areas, I've heard cartoons and video games that sound like absolute dogshit, and not just modern stuff, or shows that are basically running on fumes like The Simpsons, but older content too.

>>287835419
>The problem is that these people don’t actually want to join the hobby, but change it.

The people you're describing barely exist outside of your own head. Thinking like yours is always and everywhere a poison pill for niche interests. And I repeat, what you're proposing is impossible now anyway, so what are you even arguing for?

>>287835495
Star Wars. Look at how woke and shit it’s become under Disney. Marvel shit. Star Trek. Woke shit in video games. DEI. Turning white characters and historical figures black.

>>287835535
What about religion or conspiracies? What woke aspects are in those? Flat Earth? Jesus and the New Testament?

>>287835567
Still though, the quality of voice acting in western cartoons and games originally in English is still vastly superior to dubbed anime. Invincible’s voice acting alone destroys any dub ever made. Though it probably doesn’t hurt that the actors in that are actual A-listers

>>287835541
I never said that anon didn't have a point, just that you can't paint the entire audience with one brush

>>287831270
Language learning is a midwit's pursuit

>>287835620
She was miscast so people misinterpret her character. In fact it's actually worse, they don't misinterpret her character it's actually been completely changed and localized.

>>287835618
>Though it probably doesn’t hurt that the actors in that are actual A-listers
Who aren't needed, let's be real here. Half of those are not needed.

>>287835622
Imagine being proud of being monolingual

>>287835660
And yet having watched the dub and having not read the manga beforehand, I came away with the same impression of her character that most of the Japanese-only crowd did. Either I'm the odd man out, or you're being too narrow-minded here.

>>287835667
Imagine wasting your time learning a language when you could be intellectually stimulating yourself in the depths of math while watching anime lmfao

>>287835699
Why the fuck would you want to multitask when watching anime? Do you have ADHD?

>>287835699
I'm probably biased since I was a humanities major in school, but that sounds really ass compared to multilingualism

>>287835695
If you did, you'd come to the conclusion that her dubbed voice is terrible though

>>287835767
And yet I didn't. Funny. Again, I think you're just being narrow minded.

>>287835831
No, the fact that you consider yourself an outlier is irrelevant to the fact that the majority are watching a localization that completely changes her character. You can go check and see how the majority of normies misinterpret her character completely (Although it's not entirely their fault as the localization is the cause of the confusion.)

Just going "well I liked it," isn't a legitimate defense.

>>287815466
Dark Moon had a bunch of Brit VAs. Script sounds like it's still written by an American though (like 'period' as opposed to 'full stop').
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sOvKASEtPo

>>287835885
>a localization that completely changes her character

You haven't established that sufficiently though. You just keep saying that, and waving around the word localization like a magic wand. I'd like to point out also that it's arrogant of you to imply that your interpretation of Frieren's character is the only one people should be coming away with.

If I got banned on my birthday I will gypsy curse whoever did it and their lineage,don't mess with me,I have done it before

>>287835968
>>287835541

>>287835979
One slop ASMR video is not an argument given the size of Frieren's audience

>>287836060
it's the overwhelming consensus on all the comments i've seen about the dubbed version of the show

I watch Dubs when I want to rewatch a show and have it feel like Im watching it for the first time

>>287836091
Which do not necessarily constitute a significant enough portion of the audience to justify painting them all with one brush. At any rate, this is hardly the only example of juvenile masturbators ignoring characterization in favor of their own fantasies. The dub VA might determine *how* they do that, but the problem isn't unique to this one dub.

>>287836116
Same. Or sometimes I'll switch midway through for a few minutes just out of curiosity.

I also really enjoy it when dubs play tricks, for lack of a better phrase. Like in Polar Opposites, when Miyu rolls a gutter ball, her Japanese VA deadpans "Why?" in English, and her English VA does the same in Japanese. Stuff like that always gets a giggle out of me.

>>287836187
How's the script for the dub/sub? The manga got two official English translations and the Viz one went too far into Americanised brainrot speak compared to the Mangaplus version.

>>287836278
I really enjoyed the sub. I haven't watched the dub all the way through, but I'm given to understand that the characters use a bit of Gen Z speak. I don't really see that as a problem though. It fits their age group. Plus I work with a lot of late teens and early twenty somethings. That's just how they talk. At any rate, I'm animeonly on this one for now, so I couldn't say how either script compares to the books.

>>287814574
some people cannot read

>>287836636
And that's completely fine.

I always watch dubbed first and only switch to subs if some characters sound really annoying or if there's really bad audio mixing where the voices are much more quiet than everything else.

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>>287814574
Once you understand that the majority of people are not average but, in fact, garbage, it all makes sense. Garbage people will naturally have no standards.

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>>287814574
I'm watching Hellsing dubbed and you can't stop me

>>287814574
Back in the day people watched dubs because it was the only way to watch something, but nowadays there's no excuse to do it, you just eat shit for ulterior motives that are not worth to discuss about, is just about consuming it, so yeah OP pic is spot on but you are doing it on your own free will.

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last time I watched dub was Sailor Moon on TV in 2001. Still remember VA voices lol.

>>287814574
It is weird that I watch both? Like I watch sub first and then dub the next time.

I think a lot of the sub elitism stems from older anime simply having no dubs

>>287838283
I remember when they first announced redubbing the classic series and first heard all the new cast for the first time and they sounded like shit. I'll give the shitty old dubs points for effort.

>>287838312
I do the same thing

Let the people watch the shitty dubs in peace FFS. Just because English dubs are terrible doesn't mean all the other languages are as well.
Anyone with half a brain sooner or later switches to Japanese anyway.

>>287834026
This

>>287819924
this. wtf? if a show isn't good enough to give it your full attention why are watching it?

>>287839157
To fill up the watch list for updoots and bragging rights, I guess.
Subhuman behaviour.

>>287838313
No dub, hackdub, or edgy dub with added swearing were the 3 options.

>>287814574
>why do normalniggers exist?
Greatest mystery science couldn't solve

>>287821878
It has nothing to do with intelligence, English dub just sounds corny as fuck in most anime. I don't know why they can't just voice that shit normally you have a fair amount of video games with English voice acting that can do that just fine.
Japanese probably sounds corny in anime as well but I wouldn't fucking know, even then I can tell they put significantly more effort into voice acting.

How does /a/ do it?

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How many people here watch live-action Japanese movies and shows?

>>287814574
Americans can't read

>>287814574
Because not every dub on this planet is made by americans. I have my own cast of voices I like to hear and then they got a cool role it's a double plus. And sure then a show is just about screaming it's maybe a trade off. But then people just talk and explain things, japanese can be very boring, you may understand things but can't feel it. I know your take doesn't want an answer but here it is.

>>287840058
>Japanese probably sounds corny in anime as well but I wouldn't fucking know
Honestly I wonder

>>287841512
not sure how it's relevant to this thread, but this retarded bitch was instantly hired at cnn and is still doing similar shit

>>287814574
because i know english and not japanese? how is this a question

>>287838001
essex would never watch tranny dubslop, delete this

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Because