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https://thedaoofdragonball.com/blog/interviews/akira-toriyama-editor-says-there-is-nothing-to-learn-from-dragon-ball/
>Torishima: At first, Dragon Ball wasn’t that popular.
>Matsuyama: Eh? It wasn’t? I read Dragon Ball in Jump at that time, you know. But
I thought it was always popular?
>T: No, it was different back then. I thought it was good at the beginning of the
series, but then it became less popular, and I thought it was bad.
>M: When was that?
>T: Around the end of the interaction with the Pilaf Team.
>M: Eh?! After, “Gimme’ the panties off a hot babe!!”?
>T: Yes, once Shenron was summoned, and their wish was fulfilled, there was a
break, story-wise. I wondered if the reader would think, ‘Oh, so this story process
will just repeat itself.’
>M: That’d be useless?
>T: It would be useless if you couldn’t feel the harmony and excitement of the
pacing, because in the manga, the number of characters had increased a lot.
>M: Ah, right, at that time the number of characters had increased a fair bit, such as
Bulma, Yamcha, Puar, Oolong, Kame-sennin, Chichi, the Ox King, and Pilaf.
>T: Right, so I had Gokū train at Kame-sennin’s to keep the story simple. Together
with Krillin. Then, the Tenkaichi Budōkai was prepared as a place to test the results
of that training. It’s been extremely popular ever since.
>M: That’s right! Eh, but it’s surprising that there was something like a lull in Dragon
Ball. Is that part of ‘story arrangement?’
>T: You don’t have to analyze it.
>M: Even so, how did you come up with the ideas behind organizing the story?
>T: I studied Fist of the North Star.
>M: Oh! Fist of the North Star?! That’s surprising.
>T: It was because the popularity of Dragon Ball had declined, so I had no choice
but to study it. The most overwhelmingly popular series at the time was Fist of the
North Star.
>M: That’s true, isn’t it?
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>T: So I researched it and read up to 3 volumes of Fist of the North Star.
>M: What? To volume 3? Only up to that point?!
>T: You only need to read that much of Fist of the North Star to understand it. I didn’t care for it that much.
>M: Oh?! How can you say that?!
>T: Nah, it’s alright because it’s just my personal preference. I don’t like it. But Fist of the North Star was so popular at the time, so I read it carefully and studied it, and that’s how the future of Dragon Ball evolved. I decided the policies.
>M: You mean in terms of story arrangement?
>T: Yes, I made the story simple by reducing the amount of characters.
>M: So that’s it.
>T: When I read Fist of the North Star I felt that it was a bit preachy. But I was struck by its dialogue, “You are already dead.” “I don’t qualify to live another day!!” “Because I love the same woman.” And, “I have no regrets in my life.” Children think that such lines sound cool, of course. It had a lot of appeal in that regard, and was incredible.
>M: How did you plan to change the policy of Dragon Ball?
>T: That’s when I decided to make Dragon Ball a work without substance.
>M: Without substance?
>T: That’s right, Matsuyama-kun, have you ever learned anything by reading Dragon Ball, that you can remember?
>M: Well, of course, um…
>T: No, there’s nothing you can learn by reading Dragon Ball. It’s not a lesson in life, it’s useless in our lives; it’s just a funny comic. And that’s fine!
>M: … (Maybe that’s true, but to say it in such a way).
Do you agree with Torishima?
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>T: That’s right, Matsuyama-kun, have you ever learned anything by reading Dragon Ball, that you can remember?
lole
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>>287833786
Kys Jeremy
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>>287834276
What?
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>>287833835
what a mistake
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>>287833786
>>287833835
You know, I will give editors credit where credit is due, and recognize that many manga series would probably have floundered and fail if not for them, but also they sound fucking insufferable lol
No wonder authors always complain about them when they have the chance.
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>>287833835
Dragon Ball being a work without substance is true, and also a good thing. It is exactly because Dragon Ball is intended to be pure entertainment that it became a global phenomenon that broke all cultural barriers around the world in a way that no other manga or anime has ever done. I think pic related illustrates this idea very well, even goat fuckers from the middle east that perceive everything foreigner as haram can't resist the appeal of Dragon Ball.
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>>287834276
Based
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>>287835265
what is a mistake?
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>>287833835
>you only need to read 3 volumes of hnk to understand and not only replicate but far surpass its success
>that's when i decided to make dragon ball a work without substance
lmao based
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>>287836261
I mean I'm not really a fan but I do question what IS value when it comes to this kind of thing. It sounds smart and deep to say it needs to be some profound and introspective dive into some aspect of our history or humanity. That values in some kind of assumed intellectual depth but while many works do that I don't really think it's something that's mandatory. We certainly must never turn our brains off but why is their no value in simple entertainment. Is it not honest in that regard. A work exists to bring joy to the people who see it. It's important to explore other emotions but there's value in joy. We can accept dragon balls in its honesty and be honest with it and our selves. There are times when all we really need is a kamehameha. And when this spreads and is remembered and endured there is value.
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>>287833835
>>T: That’s right, Matsuyama-kun, have you ever learned anything by reading Dragon Ball, that you can remember?

How about learning to wonder? How about learning to wish for adventure? How about something that can captivate people's imaginations? What do you want people to learn from an adventure anime? Maybe other series did it before, maybe some did it better, but it did it.
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The greatest
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>T: No, there’s nothing you can learn by reading Dragon Ball. It’s not a lesson in life, it’s useless in our lives; it’s just a funny comic. And that’s fine!
Ultra based
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reminds me of this quote by basically the founder of french song
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>>287838620
Those are all inborn. You either have a sense of wonder and sense of adventure since birth, or you don't. Nobody teaches kids to go outside exploring forests and caves searching for treasure or to disassemble electronics to try and see how they work.



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