Noritaka Kawaguchi (CoMix Wave chairman) during a talk between representatives from MAPPA, Production IG and CoMix Wave:>The main appeal of Japanese animation is not the quality or visual appeal. There are plenty of foreign animated works that match or even exceed the visual quality of Japanese works. It's not the visual appeal of 2D works either. Recently we had many 3D Japanese works that became big hits too, although not at the theatrical level.>The main appeal of Japanese animation is that it's Japanese and caters to Japanese and broadly Asian sensibilities. The vast majority of foreigners working on Japanese animation are Asian too and have a special connection and respect for Japanese culture. Same for the rest of foreigners working on Japanese anime.>I've been part of corporate meetings for original works between Japanese and foreign producers from international distributors, and it's nothing like that. It's very sinister that a lot of them feel comfortable trying to influence the creative process of Japanese artists. I had to shut that down immediately.https://youtu.be/L6Me55Ath7U
>>287865936he is right>"... trying to influence the creative process of Japanese artists. I had to shut that down immediately."I support
>>287865936>The main appeal of Japanese animation is not the quality or visual appealhuh? Are you saying that disney or sony slop are better because they spend more money? and this guy works at comix, famous for basically their visuals>The vast majority of foreigners working on Japanese animation are Asian too and have a special connection and respect for Japanese culture. Same for the rest of foreigners working on Japanese anime.I agree with his points but the distinction between asians and the rest of the world was unnecessary.>It's very sinister that a lot of them feel comfortable trying to influence the creative process of Japanese artistBut of course, I suppose this is what he means. Shit companies like netflix want to change productions from many countries, mainly to suit their national tastes. Therefore, I can only say: based
>>287865936>corporations are soulless abominations that pervert everything they touchMore news at 11.
>>287865936When he's talking about "sinister foreign influence" he's not referring to the steins and stines of /pol/ fame but CCP censors. Anime's main distribution market are chinese streaming services and chinese companies (all of which are state enterprise extended from party leadership) are the majority foreign stakeholders in anime production.As a matter of policy china usually wants foreign media censored in very specific ways. This is the source of the conflict.
>>287865936Thread title is a misrepresentation of the actual quote in the body.
>>287866156>I agree with his points but the distinction between asians and the rest of the world was unnecessary.He's right though. Even the East Asians who grew up in Western countries and make Western comics and cartoons (O'Malley, Megan Dong, etc.) have more Eastern art styles and sensibilities than non-Asian Westerners, including weebs. Compare the art styles of UTDR (jrpg inspired indie game made by a white American weeb, popular in Japan) and Omori (jrpg inspired indie game made by a Chinese American weeb, popular in Japan) and the difference becomes obvious.
>>287865936>>The main appeal of Japanese animation is that it's Japanese and caters to Japanese and broadly Asian sensibilities.Except when those sensibilities are fucking retarded, but it's not like my country doesn't have shit like that. Mostly I agree with him. When I first watched anime I was struck by how it was different, creative and fantastical. Now obviously it has a problem with 'tropes' and shit like that, especially in low quality and generic shit made to market, but it's still more creatively free than western TV or cartoons, and often more than film, while still feeling culturally exotic to a Westerner like me. The Japanese are right to push back against the globalists that want to homogenize everything into their ideologically accepted brand of culture, society and themes. Unfortunately anime and manga are no longer niche outside of Japan/East Asia.
>>287866990And Netflix doesn't?
>>287865936>The vast majority of foreigners working on Japanese animation are Asian too and have a special connection and respect for Japanese cultureJapanese people don't respect their own culture.
>>287867587Netflix doesn't pump even a fraction of the money into the anime industry that chinese interests do collectively. Rather within the industry, netflix is seen as a safe haven where you can shit your content onto a platform with relative financial security and while avoiding overbearing foreign interference. Netflix is known for both its hands-off approach to content (for better or for worse) and its cutthroat and capricious tendency to cut series off when they don't meet nebulous financial goals.Something like Hikaru's graphic chestpussy fingering scene airing on netflix is representative of their relative lack of oversight or censorship. This isn't to glaze netflix, their platform obviously has its own issues but communist financial extortion of japanese cartoons isn't one of them. The anime industry has its own share of problems but a very large proportion of them are chinese and almost none jewish--and the kind of interference you're imagining is something they tend to be very quick to call out publicly when it does happen, because unlike in China there's a degree of social accountability in the west that prevents Hollywood-adjacent interests from pulling blatant cartel mafia shit in asian democracies.
>>287867494>while still feeling culturally exotic to a Westerner like me.Anon started watching anime last decade.
>>287865936>foreigners working on Japanese anime.>special connection and respect for Japanese culture.It's nothing like that indeed.
>>287866990pretty sure he's implying that the foreign distributors are non-asians, iirc trigger had to insist on keeping the loli when making edgerunnersi bet this interference has something to do with the reason why americans trying to make """anime""" usually go to korean studios
>>287866990No, he's talking about both. Some crying about " muh /pol " when people correctly identify westoid cancers
>>287867882No, on toonami in the late 90s and on rented VHS (GitS etc) around the same time. But I live in a place with actually intact white, Western rural culture and it's been deeply ingrained in my family and everything around me for my entire life, my entire job and life off the computer is submerged in it. That's one of the reason I have never once revealed my powerlevel and no living person knows I like anime and manga. It's that foreign. So despite, for example, watching and reading Mushishi like 4 times it still feels alien and exotic to me, although I see points of cultural and philosophical commonality too. Stuff like KanColle, which I played a lot when it first came out, could never ever come from my culture. Neither could virtually any of the supernatural romance manga I have read, or the adventure/fantasy, same story with the horror manga. I'm thankful that despite having watched anime and/or read manga for like 1/4 century and having been on 4chan for 20 years it can, when it's good, still feel exotic and special to me. But I do feel that increasing globalization and a more open Japan and 'global' internet experience is a threat to that; so I can only imagine the concern Japanese otaku fans feel.
>>287866990What are you talking about? He's literally J-woke.https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/279660218/#279660218
>>287865936>Sign in if you've been granted access to this video nigger
>>287869101They just privated the video for some reason. It was public yesterday and this morning.
>>287866990Chinks are broadly Asian
>>287865936He's right, but being right is wrong.
>>287868109Yeah, no matter how hand-off approached Netfilix may be, if they're in the production committee stuff like MahoAko or Onimai are impossible. If it were up to them they'd probably pitch another season of Neo Yokio. I wonder if Saudi princes are still funding anime productions.
>>287866990I think it's pretty obvious that he's talking about western distributors, specifically Netflix. Considering how anime in Chinese streaming platforms are mostly the same as the original broadcast it seems to me he is referring to SJW sensibilities.
>>287865936>There are plenty of foreign animated works that match or even exceed the visual quality of Japanese works. Stupid faggot.>It's not the visual appeal of 2D works either. Recently we had many 3D Japanese works that became big hits tooOf course he would love to replace everything with CGI shit because it's faster and easier.
>>287867008>UTDRduuuuhhhhhhhhhh huhhhhthe fuck is this pretentious elitist gate keeping shit. just say what you want. "Undertale and Deltarune", say what you mean.
>>287866156>>287871487I think he's talking about the classics of western animation like works from the golden age of American animation.
Let’s remember that gajins with good taste are on the same side as Japanese creators
>>287866990Why is it that every time censorship and foreign influence in anime is brought up, there's always a post deflecting to China? This is not organic. Kawaguchi said "broadly Asian" which includes China. It's clear the foreign producers trying to influence Japanese artists he's talking about are westerners. We know how Chinese censorship works. The Chinese distributors alter their version to comply with government regulations. They don't try to influence the original product like the West. Torishima literally called out the West and America by name as a source of foreign censorship influence. What more do you need to accept that?
>>287865936>There are plenty of foreign animated works that match or even exceed the visual quality of Japanese worksthere aren't
>>287866990Is this the new disinfo of the week? I wonder who's behind it.
>>287873225Sure bro. Pixar movies look like shit because you said so.
>>287873446What? He was just Correcting the Record. Stop being so racist and sexist, you filthy bigot.
>>287866990its all foreign authoritarian ideologies. communist, femenist, corporatist, all of it. japan is the valve of anime, the only ones not actively trying to fuck everyone else through the hole in their wallet.
>>287873789go back
Nihon banzai
>>287867833>Asian>DemocraciesKek you made me a good crack.
>>287868894Based. We need him in the diet
>>287865936Just say it's westerners and be done with it.>you MUST insert negro characters into your stories Yamada-san>they MUST sleep with the young japanese maiden Yamada-san
>>287865936Interesting, the video is private now. Almost like those sinister forces did something.
>>287866156>Are you saying that disney or sony slop are better because they spend more money?Outside 4chan, trannycord, plebbit and the cesspool of anime xitter. Anime visuals are still look down except ghibli and frieren (rumao).Non JOP casuals and normalfags still think Spiderverse, Arcane and Kpop Demon Hunters have high tier taste craftsmanship visuals in the medium compared to anime since is not the usual disney formula and it also connected with the NPC underage crowd. While disney cinematic realism approach is still the one most animation studios still use.Add china and SEA now copy the anime and manga aesthetic with Sony and Disney level of financial investment (like gacha special PV) and he is not wrong on the visual aspect. But also is right is not due the visuals anime is still standing since now everyone and their mother copy the anime and manga art direction.
>>287865936Netfux *cough* Crunchyroll *cough* Semitism *cough* *cough* A rootless meddler tribe *cough* Turning everything into westernberg sub-saharan agitprop *cough* WB *cough* Amazon
>>287866990He literally quite literally separates the rest of Asians from the rest of foreigners. Hell, he even co-produced a film with chinks just fine, Shiki Oriori.
It's the jews isn't it
>>287866990Nice try, schlomo
>>287879967Sure, anything to delude yourself from the reality of what your kind does whenever it comes into contact with Eastern media.
>>287866990I don't think that's what he meant anon since he mentioned that their works appeal to Japanese and Bradley Asian, which include chinese, sensibilities.
>>287865936Western influence on Tokyo politics is pretty easy to see. Even Sunday morning block anime and doraemon got away with a lot more fanservice 20-30 years ago.
>>287877073That confirms that he was spot on.
>>287865936remember when JEWS started investing in animation studious in the 2015 time frame?
>>287866990>but chynalol post nose
>>287865936There's been so many rumors about Production IG and CoMix Wave collaborating on Shinkai's next film, so that's definitely interesting
>>287865936Pokemon is a notable example of Japanese media becoming less "Japanese" of their own volition. The original games and Anime were full of specific references to Japanese culture, but then the Anime started becoming more "culturally generic" and then the games started taking place in regions based on other countries. Legends Arceus is the only recent game that felt Japanese.
>>287882574Pokemon may avoid Japanese cultural references, but they still use a bunch of tropes that you only really see in Anime and Japanese games, so I think they still "feel" Japanese.
>>287882630Yeah. Western comments on the current anime series is full of autistic bitching about Liko not being a cunty girlboss and how misogynistic this is.
>>287881675yup, but so did the saudis and chinese. my problem is blackrock which feels largerly American. Holding the most influence and causing the most problems as per glowie intiatives.
>>287882818I haven't seen that anywhere, if anything all I saw were people happy that the main character of the Pokemon is a girl, but then again I don't really pay that much attention to discussion on the Anime to begin with.
>>287882860which of course America = Jewish alliance at this stage public knowledge now instead of schizo theories
>>287882868Basically everywhere other than 4chan, the consensus is that the series is heckin problematic for finally giving us a female mc but then making her feminine and emotional instead of Satoshi with a vagina.
>>287882981>consensusVocal minorities propped up as psyop by wanna social engineers are not accurately described as a "consensus"
>>287882981Is "everywhere" tumblr or twitter this time?
>>287883046I meant the consensus among westfags discussing the series online. If you go somewhere other than 4chan to discuss the show, except to find a circlejerk complaining about how Liko isn't a feminist character.
All the best anime was when they were aping western genre flicks tho
>>287883103Japanese creators independently taking inspiration from western works is different from western studios and producers directly enforcing their preferred content standards.
>>287882981>anime always did a really poor job in representing female characters as a poor battlersIts not only woke infested mind but also low powerlevel who acts like a know-it-all on a subject they know nothing aboutThere are plenty of strong female character, but they are not western style feminists and this is what they are complaining about but can't tell it loud
>>287885306Competent female fighters would also lend itself to more clothing damage or outright nudity like Sekirei before, so it is valid bitching.
>>287865936>during a talk between representatives from MAPPAFunny
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>>287885394For an ordinary person, damage to clothing also means an injury; for someone with superhuman endurance, provided they’re wearing ordinary clothes and not additional armor, such a thing could indeed happen.But I wouldn’t read anything more into this detail than, at most, some typical Japanese humor.
>>287885433>>287885459Why doesn't have this shit have more noise?
>>287885433>>287885459>>287885489Bravo Mappa
>>287885531It does. People bitched endlessly about the lack of nipples in Ranma.
>>287866990Fuck off, rabbi.
>>287885643Meanwhile a handful of invasive retarded faggots spam it's one schizo.
>>287879967It's always them
