The head of the studio that was going to animate Kimi wo Tsumugu got outed for grooming a 14 year old yesterday and the official twitter account for Kimi wo Tsumugu just posted this. The anime was supposed to release at the end of this month.https://nitter.net/kimiwotsumugu/status/2050999486780952588original allegation:https://nitter.net/Maryco02_/status/2050638062602870835
Can I have more context about the studio as a whole? Why is there a supposed anime studio in Italy and who are the people involved?
>>287871668Its one of the many foreign studios that do support work for the major ones in japan
>>287871668The studio started as a community of fan animators who later turned professionals. Fede (an Italian) was the initiator along with Blou (a Belgian), working as the producers, managing the communication between freelance animators and the Japanese studios like CloverWorks (for WEG, Bocchi the Rock) etc. Later Fede and Blou made the studio official and registered it as a business in Europe, and they started taking contracts from other studios like TOEI, CloverWorks, etc. Blou later left because Fede was being unprofessional and gaslighting him that the situation was okay. The staffs are foreign and Japanese animators, compositor, inbetweeners, shiage, background painters etc. Now, the future of ButaPro is pretty much finished. But some animators said that Japanese studios that have been working with ButaPro will continue to hire the animators under freelance contracts (not as ButaPro animators). This is quite a blow since I know some Japanese studios have made contracts with ButaPro, and now Fede ran away from internet, ghosting all the Japanese producers.
>>287871861Thanks. It sucks that the situation affects other people on top of the victim herself. >the DMsJesus Christ, these people are always cringe incarnate.
>>287872012Yeah...
>>287871597the allegations that we have good taste in girls and don't settle for hags?
>>287872087He's actually wrong either way because if there's any suspicion that you hold potential sway over your partner's opinions or are a figure of authority to them the age gets bumped up to 16 and that pretty much applies to any adults when dealing with a kid.
>>287872012Same thing happened with the American studio Tonari Animation that went bankrupt several years ago because the CEO was a AI/NFT techbro who mismanaged the studio's fund. In the end their animators not getting paid. I just hope that this Fede guy doesn't run away with the money. Also back to the topic to Kimi wo Tsumugu, I hope it gets finished under different management. Maybe a new studio or group will born from this mess. I mean the kickstarter was successful so it had to be finished, otherwise there would be a massive lawsuit. >>287872186>>287872204The guy was 23 when he messaged her (14 at the time). Apparently he also engaged in sex with her, so he could go to jail for real.
>>287872087>baby girl
>Two consenting adults>Situationk
Hmm, it seems the animators and ex-staffs have reorganized themselves and will continue their current projects. Kimi wo Tsumugu will probably gets delayed, but it seems they're committed to finish it.>Everybody associated with ButaPro has immediately left the studio. We're now organizing in a different place, trying to get current projects to completion under a different banner. Please support the hard work of my colleagues when our projects come out!!!https://x.com/ryoyamada2001/status/2050953176627486854>Butapro itself is But the creatives working for it have all banded together and are trying to finish current projectsWe gotta thank seisaku and producers who were able to understand the situation and offered us to work as freelancers instead of under Butaprohttps://x.com/Rarururu__/status/2050953894113513944
I thought Japan is based and trad and doesn't have cancel culture?
>>287872439Japan not having cancel culture is just an insane thing to say
>>287872439A Japanese seisaku has voiced his disappointment and sympathy for the animators who worked for the studiohttps://x.com/aka_masoho/status/2050724463554281653
>>287871561The studio just accepted the job. It doesn't have to do with yuri.
>>287872118>anonymous claimed this post was a joke
>>287872439>idol forced to shave her head for the crime of being seen smoking
>>287872439Actual pedos would be cancelled anywhere in the civilized world. anon-kun
I know Italian men are horny, but 14...?
>>287872439The anime is still airing.
>>287872531>idol forced to shave her head for the crime of being seen smokingShe shaved her head on her own volition because she was caught dating a male idol or somethingIt was that actress from super sentai who got fired because she got caught drinking and smoking while being underage (smoking and drinking under 20 is illegal in Japan apparently)
>>287871561This is completely normal in Med countries, why are people so culturally insensitive?
>>287871561I'm going to be honest.If they were happy together, why would I have a problem with it?If she was being raped I could umderstand the outrage. People nowadays are really mental about age gaps and infantilize teenagers to the max.>t. europoor
>>287872532Except if Oda vouches for them of course.
>>287872565>It was that actress from super sentai who got fired because she got caught drinking and smoking while being underage (smoking and drinking under 20 is illegal in Japan apparently)That's some bullshit, she is old enough to be an actress but not old enough to drink and smoke in peace?
>>287872531>>287872565>>287872642Japan will break if everyone styop walking in lockstep
I couldn't care less about this
>>287872349It was a grown ass moid and a teen girl, retard/.
>>287872642Legal drinking age in the US is 21
>>287871561>yuritard is a groomerWho could've seen this coming?
>>287872736>>287871597The director wasn't a yurifag.
>>287872714>It was two consenting adults, retardk
>>287872533What's legal is legalt. neighbor with even laxer laws for 14-year-old-fucking
>>287872753sure thing
>>287872774Whatever you say, Abul.
>>287871668https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxltzWqi68k
>>287872753Was he trans though?
>>287872204It doesn't really matterAccording to the doc, they only started sexting at 16 and only had sex at 18The messages prior to that were just one sidedly stating fantasies, would those even be illegal if said to a 6 year old?
>>287872865A head of the studio doesn't like every anime they animate.>>287872865No, he was a straight guy.
I can't believe the one that directed Bocchi the groomed did this...
>>287872892Anon this "staredt" when the person was 14 years old aka the AoC where this took place
>>287872930The director is thishttps://x.com/__ani__
>>287872958I don't know what your definition of sexting is, but he was BDSM sex roleplaying with a 14 yo girl when he was 23
>>287872714You men an evil foid (14) taking advantage of a sensitive young man (23).
>FAR/FedeUh, I actually interacted with this guy a few times (online).I was under the impression he was gay. Are we sure the 14 yo isn't trans or something?
Is sexual talk acknowledged by Italian law?I have once read the laws of my country and IIRC, it criminalised solicitation of sexual pictures and real life sexual acts, but I don't recall mentions of sexual talks that don't ask for either of those.
>>287873124She apparently sent bikini pics to him>>287873146She sent bikini pics, so maybe he could be prosecuted for asking CSAM from a minor
>>287873146Adults can talk about these things.
>>287873179>bikini pics>CSAMlmao
>>287873179are you retarded
>>287873146No idea about Italy but you can't exactly forbid talks about sex when you can actually fuck them. It obviously makes sense for "forcing" sex and pictures. But I was still extremely paranoid about that shit when I was 20 and had a 17 year old gf, I made sure to never ever mention anything remotely sexual. Which turned out to be a really good decision but I don't want to go into blogshitting.
>23 and 14Wow, what a nothingburger. This was commonplace and completely normal before social media.
>>287873063>>287872958>>287873179here is the thing from wikipedia
>>287871561>discord mod and his kitten (underage)A tale as old as time.
>>287873289you need to calm down you raped faggot
>>287872118For 2D girls, right?
>>2878733322D girls won't talk to me, what am I doing wrong?
>>287873278I guess he's sort of a tutor figure to her because 5 years ago he already has worked in anime industry (Wonder Egg Priority)
>>287873343Shut up and get jailed for your loli pics, texan.
>>287873362>he already has worked in anime industry (Wonder Egg Priority)The grooming doesn't matter, this is why the guy should go to jail.
>>287873355Nothing. Just imagine their positive attributes and how they’d respond in your head.
>>287873362>sort ofThat's not how law works.
>>287873289I mean, Chads can get away with it
>>287872958>illegalDoesn't matter if it's legal or not. You need to realize that thanks to the internet the world is a global tribal community now: if it looks bad (and it does, globally), the rest of society will know and will disqualify you from participating. Cancel culture is tribal culture. This guy is out. It's not surprising that she didn't know, but if, as a 23 year old with access to the internet likely from the moment you were born, you don't understand the consequences of leaving written traces online of those kind of conversations with a minor, you must be extremely stupid.Besides this, whatever side you look at it, this is an extremely creepy thing to do. For as much as you can lust over young girls, that you fail to imagine the effects these kind of things can have on their minds because of how horny you are, is truly ugly. It's a total failure of human empathy and imagination.
I’m more offended about retards defending 3DPD than the studio drama itself.
>>287873443This but the opposite.If you don't live in the same country as me your opinion doesn't matter.
>>287873475Ma io sono italiano, anon. So perfettamente di cosa stiamo parlando, e al di là della chat che leggi fra i due, tutta sta cosa è estremamente creepy secondo gli standard di chiunque. Non conta un cazzo che in Italia l'età del consenso sia quattordici anni - quando uno nella tua compagnia di amici di vent'anni si presenta nel gruppo con una ragazza di quattordici non è che gli altri gli dicono "don't worry, it's chill perché è legale". Non è chill manco per il cazzo.Poi oh, è anche un paese dove i preti hanno normalizzato fare ste robe ai ragazzini per generazioni (da cui, probabilmente lo statuto legale). Ma a livello di percezione pubblica, anche in termini nazionali, sta cosa è terrificante da leggere.
>>287872533nothing wrong with that. The child is already out of the pedophilia range (up to 12-13 years. 14+ is SAFE).>>287872204>He's actually wrong either way because if there's any suspicion that you hold potential sway over your partner's opinions or are a figure of authority to them the age gets bumped up to 16 and that pretty much applies to any adults when dealing with a kid.>any adultthat only applies to parents, relatives, teachers, employers, etc.- for consensual sex. This does not save the adult if violence, coercion, etc. is involved.
>>287873529Given there have been plenty of pederastic priests and popes who went after kids under 14, I don’t blame you.
>>287871861>Blou later left because Fede was being unprofessional and gaslighting him that the situation was okay.what's this drama about then
>>287873529Your opinion doesn't matter.
>>287873252>”forcing”Did you quote that in the sense there’s a difference between consent and coercion? I’m not saying you’re wrong.
List of anime they have worked onhttps://keyframe-staff-list.com/studio/175
This guy was a big shot in the sakuga community. He always wrote something for the sakugablog awards
>>287873094Sensitive how
>>287873678>a bunch of niche shows>suddenly key animation on One Piece
>>287873727So nothing good then.
>>287873627>Even at the end, I gave him a list of big issues we had that absolutely had to be fixed, he dismissed it all and tried to gaslight me saying I was too tired and not thinking straight.>Ultimately, that just pushed me harder towards the exit and I left and never looked back.
>>287873727Support studios find work wherever they can
>>287872958So basically everything that happened was legal? Why the shitstorm?
>>287873745I'd still like to see this anime they're producing as the main studio.
>>287871561Why the fuck is this happening on Shitter instead of in a court of law??? What's going on with alphoomers????
Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed.
>>287873785>alphoomersFinally, I understand everything.
>>287873772Cancelling has never been about what's illegal
>>287871561extremely cringe to think ironic animespeech from early 2000s comic book conventions is now used unironically to pick up minors online by groomers
>>287873727Toei (or at least One Piece) is relying on foreign animators heavily. And they have a lot of money so they can afford to make a contract with Buta Production. IIRC ButaPro's rates are higher than Japanese because they use European/American standard wage.
>>287873772it all involves a bunch of very weak queers if you look up these >>287873753 quotes you also get>But I lack self-confidence so I thought I was too weak and idealist for the industry
>>287873833Eileen
>>287873833To be fair, it’s also a Twitter screencap thread, so regardless of the topic, they should’ve seen it coming.
>>287873833This isn't a japanese studio so it's really not
>>287873063>rping with a 14 year oldHow could you ever consider this a good idea?
>>287873858>come on EileenYou kids might not know but it's a song. Check out the lyrics, coincidentally appropriate.
>>287873094I know this manga
>>287874011He was horny
>>287873785because >>287872826
>>287871561this ought to teach the mangaka never to work with gaijin ""animators"" again
>>287874253But after the breakup of the studio they joined with all the foreign animators immediately again.
>>287874253There's a sex scandal with mangakas every other week
>>287874055I've been retarded and horny but i've never been that retarded.
How am I supposed to keep believing that 2D > 3D when shit like this keep happening to industry figures?
>>287874470The answer has always been both, but adult women are better than teenagers. Someone with enough taste to watch anime with.
Why would you even want to fuck someone out of wedlock?
>>287874470But this case confirms it yet again.
>>287873678>blue archive>The studio wanted a female sensei before nexon forced male senseiLMAO
>>287874754>destroyed
>>287874470Brother your body was designed to be attracted to real foids. I'm sorry.
>>287874849I haven't even fapped to real women in decades
>>287874884This power... Can it be learned?
>>287874470because industry figures are 3D.... duh? are you retarded?
>>287874310Congratulations, you are one of many people who are likely to not commit some kind of sex-based crime
>>2878749443D is even more retarded.
>>287874913Looking back I don't even know how I could tolerate 3D porn. The women were so trashy and gross.
Lmao, how much of a fucking retard do you have to be to be doing this while working in THIS type of industry? If he really wanted hebe cunny, he should've started a blue-collar business in some country like Russia or South America.
>14 year oldBoohoo
>>287875374Yeah, and if you're starving you can eat dog food.
>>287875406Russian and south american lolis are top tier though?
grooming is hot
>3DPD>ever
>>287875550Right? Especially the little clips of dog hair just fluttering to the floor.
>>287873529The law is not like that because of the church's influence or anything, but because adolescent will fuck no matter how and so it's dumb to make it illegal. Similar ages of consent are found everywhere in Europe.