What makes the animation "forced"?
Its not genuine
>>287886074when it is animated in an unnatural wayreal food doesn't do this
>>287886074Swinub, no!
>>287886146Mine does.
>>287886146That just because you're american
>>287886225would you rather eat a swinub or a milktank?
>>287886074Unnecessarily dedicated animation for a scene that doesn't need it, especially noticeable if it's unusually high quality compared to the rest of the animation. The example you gave does look "forced" since typically animation like that would be simpler, but it wouldn't be if the entire show was on that level of detail in every scene. Though even if it was, I think most people would consider it forced to put so much animation detail into such a mundane scene, which is more of a culture issue than an animation problem
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>>287886312>animator gets a rare chance to flex his skills drawing something other than lip flaps>NOO THAT'S DISHONEST EVERYTHING SHOULD BE EQUALLY SLOPPY
>nooo i hecking hate movementthen go read manga instead nigga
3d chinese movies and violet evergarden
>>287886074Really, it doesn't look like the practiced motion of someone whose intent is eating... It's so slow, it's quite a clean cut, and the climax of this is looking at two halves of it instead of doing something with it. This only works if the person is demonstrating the action to another person or something like that. It doesn't work as the act of someone eating like a normal person. Everyone probably instinctively understands this doesnt look natural, so I'm guessing that's why people might call it forced.
Everything in mushoku tensei, every single frame is like>we know the story is shit please look at the flashing magic lights and sex and don’t think about it
>>287886342Literally this. If it's not some shounen garbage pounding impact frames into your eyes the r/a/cial subgroups here get uppity.
Nothing in mushoku tensei, every single frame is like>we know the story is incredible but please also look at the amazing artwork and animation and think deeply about all of these things
>>287886074It mostly refers to using an excessive amount of frames, a lot of effort, and likely a huge part of the budget on a scene that either doesn't warrant it, or that looks bad, awkward or dips into the uncanny valley, despite the time and effort put into the scene.In fighting scenes it often ends up having the opposite effect, where something that's meant to be cool ends up looking embarrassingly juvenile and pathetic. Most modern fight scene in anime are like that, especially when you've got the stupid spinning camera, magical attacks, people jumping around like spastic retards and everything being saturated in flashing lights and CGI shit.
>>287886074I don't know what kind of food (?) is this, but it doesn't seem to comply with the laws of physics. I would shit myself in terror if my dessert started contorting like that thing.
>>287886287>milktank
>>287886342>>287886698Are you fucking retarded? If it looks good, it's not what we're talking about to begin with, you fucking moron. It's an issue of something looking bad, despite the effort that's put into it. It's like polishing a turd.Also, most anime fights look like absolute fucking shit, even when they pour their entire budget into it.
>>287886327the problem here is actually a lack of animation. The hair looks really good, not too fast/smooth either. But since the head is completely still, it looks like the hair is attached to a robot body
>>287886994but the OP looks good
If it's good animation made after the year 2000. Before that it isn't counted as forced.
>>287886074When it breaks immersion
>>287886074I met once a Mongol on train, one of his big complaints about life in America was the food: not enough meat! He told me “vegetables are something I’m still trying to get used to.” Yakuts and others from north tundra say the same: vegetables, not to speak of bread, taste to them like wood. What is this spirit that we have to worship bread and the grain? I can never accept that, and everything that goes with it, the way of life, the beliefs that developed around this…and the type of mind that was ultimately bred by the grain.
>>287887051Face it, faggot. You're a literal retard who can't tell the difference.
>>287886403I can't put my finger on why but it reminds me more of how an european cartoon would look like.
>>287887037No, it looks like shit.
>>287886815This is the one. It was for the sake of comedy too, so it's forced with purpose.
>>287887102Was the keyframe animator European? That might have been it as Toei's been hiring more of those outside of Japan for One Piece.
>>287886994>>287887118Proving my point btw
>>287886074Pushing into the bread but there is no tension displacing throughout the form of the bread despite tearing it apart.Looks unnatural and makes it look flat and uncanny as shit.
>>287887102Would look like in the past.
>>287887166Yeah, it was made by Vincent Chansard.
>>287886403I don't mind that but I don't watch OPOP is kinda "toony" if you get me? It's kinda Dr Livesey
>>287886225TT
>>287886074Anything by ufotable. It's a PowerPoint slide with flying graphics all over the place
>>287887291Figured it was. He's been doing a decent amount of work on that show.
>>287887017Nah. It's perfectly normal for a person to stand still while the wind moves their hair, and anime characters don't emote that much with their whole face to begin with. It's the hair that looks weird, particularly the bangs. The lighting is wrong and chunks of it move unnaturally, like paper.
>>287886074My go to example.
>>287887562the still head looks fine normally, because the hair isn't moving either. The same problem would be the other way around, when the head moves but the hair is as stiff as wood.How is the lighting wrong?>paperThat's just a side effect of anime-hair styles being made up of several bangs, instead of millions of single strands. It would never look "right" to your standards unless you add individual hair for that single scene(something Code Geass did once)
>>287887630It's obviously the bangs. I just covered them with my finger and the webm looked nice all of the sudden.
>>287887591why does she eat like that?
>>287887591This still makes me so mad to watch
>>287887630>How is the lighting wrong?Not him but the angle at which the sun is casting a shadow across her neck should mean the sun is on her left side and casting a shadow across much more of her face. Not sure if that's what he means.The hair also does move a little unnaturally based on where the wind would have to be coming from. The front part should not be lifted like that if the back part is being blown back.But yes, still face also looks weird because even if the wind (strong enough to lift her hair like that) didn't make her wince a little or react slightly in some other way, the wind blowing hair across her eyes should at least be a little annoying.
>>287886074hoge......
>>287887676>>287887591My theory is that she has no teeth whatsoever, so she's trying to grab the nugget with just her lips, and then the pain of swallowing that thing in one go
>>287887912>should mean the sun is on her left sidewhat? Every single shadow(and highlight) indicates the sun is coming from the right
>>287886327>>287887630Obviously the problem is that wind doesn't work that way. The light breeze that is moving her hair would blow in a specific direction, while her bangs are moving in many different directions so it looks unnatural.
>>287887966yes...her left...
>>287887017>>287887562The hair looks like shit because it's poorly animated and moves unnaturally, while also being too smooth. It looks fake, as if someone used software or AI to add tween frames to it.One advantage to having fewer frames, is that your mind fills the gaps. When you actually animate those frames and end up with smooth animation, it can swing both ways. If it's competently done, it looks better. If it's done poorly, then it makes the scene look even worse than it would have looked than if it had fewer frames, because it highlights the negative qualities and poor animation.Rotoscoping creates a similar effect if you apply it to anime characters. Even if the movement is technically realistic, it looks really fucked up when anime characters move exactly like humans.
>>287888064>as if someone used software or AI to add tween frames to it.Clip has new drawing every other second
>>287887985>has never been in the wind before let alone with a girl with long hair he could observe
>>287887952you can clearly see her teeth tho
>>287886146>when it is animated in an unnatural wayThis right here.I found it to be very notice in the latest season of JJK, the way the movements are animated is just slightly off.The webm in the OP isn't a good example.
>>287886225Thought teh same thing
