Hello boys and girls! It's that time of the week again! Last week was a break week (our beloved author really needed it, seeing as how 2 minutes of improvising scripts per week is back-breaking work). Today marks the day we return to our beloved masterpiece of long-form storytelling, KENGAN OMEGA!Last we left off, our HERO Julius was faced off against the mighty Gilbert Wu! Meanwhile, our HERO Jurota was about to kickstart a fight against Toa! And of course, the greatest hero of them all, Koga is cooking something good!Will we see follow-ups to any of these sub-plots this chapter? Or will our FUARKING HERO of an author Yabako Sandrovich start up a brand new sub-plot entirely? And how much of the chapter will be AI! Find out in just a few hours!
I think Toa will just fucking win
Mammoth Murphy soon.
Here's how Luca Tyrant will make a comeback...
>>287925891Somehow that Haruo actually looks worse than the beta Haruo
This shit has become such an active part of my memory that I already expect the thread to be up hours in advance every week... I even showed up before any replies this time and had to come back later. I need Omega to end before it consumes me fully.
Juliusbros... I don't feel very optimistic about the upcoming chapter...If Gilbert gets his way we'll have to accept the modern meaning of decimate...
I want to be Shen, bros. How do I master Huisheng?
>>287926038As a Gilbertbro, I feel good tho?
Why does the man who's manga has been dogshit for over a year get the idea he deserves a break week?
>>287926184>GilbertbroThere are NO Gilbert fans out there and you can't convince me otherwise
>>287926038Do not lose faith. Sandro has clearly been setting up Gilbert NTR, he is never going to fight Raian so he is free to job to Julius
>>287926184GILBERTBROS GANBATTE
>>287926201>god this manga sucks so HARD I can't get ENOUGH OF IT
I'm done getting fucked over...! *does nothing*
Walter Cox and Colonel Sanders soon.
Why is Toa getting so much screentimeHe's not that funny, not that strong and definitely not that interestingAlso after the 5N@O he lost all credibility
I still don't understand the purpose of bombing Italy.
>>287926854His name is too fucking gay, he's called Walter Cocks, for m00t's sake.
>>287927071I already told you, my motives are complex...
>>287926201>He doesn't get a golden week in his work fieldLaugh at this wagie!
I just a few more days, Kengan Omega's storytime daily thread is going to "arrive" at chapter 50.Are you ready for it?
>>287927195"I" am"They" are "not"
>>287927071That bastard Luohan ordered it (he just said the spaghetti has explosive taste)
>>287927195Is it true that Omega is good before "50" tho? I think it's pretty shit too back then before "50" with Koga and Ryuuki.
>>287927195Are the Kengan Ashura storytime threads archived? I wanted to read them for a while
>>287927195Is that the chapter when Ohma is revived? I have dropped the daily when Asura finished because I couldn't be bothered to read Omega after everything I've read about it.
>>287927195Call me when it's time for chapter 89
>>287927377Yes. The daily is currently at chapter 38.
>>287927435What happened with chapter 89?
>>287927459
>>287927067Toa and Julius are literally token jobbers to show that size and strength don't matter and can be overcome with technique or just that there's always someone bigger and badder out there.Gilbert stopped Julius with one hand and Toa already got flipped and out-grappled by Ohma a few dozens chapters ago. Jurota is going to swing him into the ground just by brushing him with his pinky.
I'm personally waiting for chapter 92. That "hot summer" story angle was good.
>still no chapter title...another break?
>Related series: The Brazilian release of Kengan Omega
>>287925547You all give SandroGOD shit, but name ONE (1) other ongoing martial arts manga with nonstop, weekly fights between a cast of interesting fighters, set against the backdrop of an intricate, unique plot. The honest truth is you all look forward to a new Omega chapter, and nobody gives a fuck about a new Baki chapter or whatever anymore.
>>287927195You can tell it's the new readers because they say sex with Sayaka instead of Xia
>>287927195I'll leave it open to interpretation really has mindbroken me
>>287926155You first need Shen, in other words, you "need" Sandro.
>>287927195Personally I'm waiting for "You never stood a chance" aka the true death of omega
>>287927248It's extremely good before 50.
>>287927588>that imageIt's rare you see a bait image that's so bad at mocking what it's trying to mock that it ends up looking like praise. Because the bottom picture is 100% correct. Baki is wacky nonsense and it is so kino that you can't help but admire it.
>>287927748Yeah, about as "extremely good" as you faggots pretended Asura to be. Which turned out to be... okay. Not bad, not great, just fine.
>
>>287927698>an absolutely disappointing end to one of the most anticipated boss battles in the series VS>the complete and utter destruction of the poignancy and character themes of the manga's predecessor's protagonist >the complete and utter destruction of said predecessor manga's ending>the removal of Koga as a protagonist (something that Koga has not been able to recover from as a character to this day despite flimsy and rushed attempts at trying to bring him back to the central limelight)>a jarring genre shift from Rocky-esque underdog story to mindless DBZ power levelsNah. The true death of the manga was chapter 50. Eddiefags need to get over themselves.
>>287927248>koga and ryuki bromance>character development>koga having real training instead of wooshing with high tier characters>interesting clone mystery>xia ji being a menace instead of a buckbroken sissyI won't pretend that it was great, but compared to later omega it's a blessing.
Hassad soon.
>>287927248Better than this shit
Chapter title?
>>287926184>Gilbertbrois this even possible? it feels like one of those things that only exist in theory like a knife user winning
>287927248>I think it's pretty shit too back then before "50" with Koga and Ryuuki.In that case, I think (You) are a bored shitposter trying to pick a fight. I shan't waste anymore time with your provocations. I have a barbecue to attend.
Fight me then you pussy bitch
>>287927588>trite overdone tropey showcase of power for a fight between irrelevant jobbers where the outcome does not even matter because it has no bearing on the actual plot, which in and of itself is also uninteresting and meanderingvs>japanese geezer doing random bullshit he finds funny because he's fully invested into his own world and characters and has no pretense of telling a big story anymore (and he'd rather just be at his studio drawing gay porn with other men than spend time at home with his wife and daughters)learn the difference
The "barbeque" is "heating up"
>>287927195I need to witness the tongue.
Sandro wouldn't just humiliate gil AGAIN before fighting raian hahaha.....man I wish ed was still alive.
I choke up just thinking about how himuro is already...
...Chapter Title? Hello?
>>287928040Break week again.
>>287928055Doubtful. Mangaone still has the chapter planned for today.
>>287927939Julius will use a "technique" and defeat Gil.
>>287928040
>>287928074"Mangaone" Jobbed
I just ate lunch and I'm full of nutrients. Time for my weekly Kengan desserts.
Place your bets who falls first?Toa or Julius?Will Purgatory redeem themselves?
I like how Comikey's staff can't even be bothered to maintain a consistent schedule for uploading chapter titles. It's literally just copy and pasting a few words, and they can't even be bothered to do it. They wait until the last possible moment like a highschooler procrastinating on a summer book report.
"WE" have arrived, I got the timing right
>>287927195I still insist that a storytime daily for an unfinishied manga is pointless. And this is the 2nd time we've through this one last time in 2022 we reached the end of PurgatoryBut whatever, i'm ready
>>287928171That one ended perfectly on Gilbert's debut. Pretty coincidental "timing", that.
>The God of the Underworld vs the MonsterMeh.
>>287928132>nutrientsI can't believe Sandro has added yet another word that I'm associating with Omega.
>>287928202OH MY SCIENCE
>>287928202Wow. What an inspired chapter title. That week off has definitely rejuvenated Sandro's creative verve!
>>287927117LUOHAN!THAT BASTARD!!!HE SAW A SNAIL AND REFUSED TO STEP ON IT I JUST KNOW IT!HE CAUSED ALL OF THIS I'M GOING TO FUCKING KILL HIM
Daro where is elena in the golden week bikini????
>>287928302Best I can do is Tiger Niko in yellow shorts.
>>287928302>elenait should be rino
>>287928143Our hero Kim...
>>287928331I'd take luohan in youtube shorts
After Julius jobs I never wanna see him or his cock slurpers ever again. Joke of a character
>>287927787One thing that people don't talk about enough is how Koga never got to find out that Ohma "died". I was really looking forward to some point where Koga came to realize that he was chasing after a literal ghost, that his goal would be forever unobtainable because he'd never truly be able to see if he's stronger.but then roflmao
>>287927071Unironically Shen just felt bad for his buddy Eddie being bullied by the elite sicilian mafia hitmen and assassinmogged by Erioh, so he ordered it to try to make Eddie feel better
>after the first time in months I finally remember that an Omega chapter is happening before it dropsLooks like I got the "timing" right. Now I'll be able to get a fresh "hot dog" from this "barbeque" "party".
>>287928202And here I was expecting Toa to actually be a sensible guy and jump Gil together with Julius
LAST GAOLANG PREDICTIONS!Make your bets!!!!
>less than 5 minutes......
Julius Reinhold is going to fucking DIE today!
Gilbert will die to Falcon poison
GILBERT ALWAYS WIN BABY
>>287928345Is out already
>>287928447from boredom after facing JOBbert
Mark Myers will become relevant again. I just know it.
>>287927195I haven't done one of these in a while (since ch 280) maybe I should plop a new one?
>Chapter 353: Mountains
I JOBBED
Juliusbros... We better decimate that brat, or else we riot!
>>287928485comikey....
LMAO JULIUSKEKS
ENTER
BEASTulius.....
Well, uh, see you next week!
Sandro you will not convince me there's even a fraction of Eddie in that lame ass guy
Gilbert is actually going to lose before he even meets Raian.
>>287928485kekbert…
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAIEEEEEEEEEE!!!! BUT MY WU GENES!!!
Holy aura loss for Goybert/Goyward as the kids would say.
>>287928527Karla is so wasted in this manga
I like this page
>Too weakHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
First it was nutrients. Now it's plebian?
Julius speaks like a moba character
Gilbert bros we fucking suck...
they are both throwing red flags lmao I can't even
CHADlius
Gilbert is such a fucking wet diarrhea fart of a character
>Clinch>Double Leg>Ground and Poundall this build up and he's john mma in a series that has okubo
BEASTGODTITANLORDJUGGERNAUTCOLOSSUSMONOLITH
>16 page chapter>"You're too weak!">"Nuh uh, you're too weak!">That's all, see you next week!
We waited 2 weeks for this?
I don't remember Edward seething and yelling plebeian this much...
>julius you are WEAK>no actually gilbert you are the one who is WEAK>let me show you how WEAK you are (but not until the next chapter)
Nothing changed, here's the chart, see you next week
>>287928581I feel the same, you plebeian
>>287928603>>287928607Gilbert... is too weak to lose!
>>287928487>We better reduce that brat's HP by 10%Isn't that what Julius just did?
>>287928616MY FUARKINGGGGGGG HEROOOOOO!!!
>>2879286042 weeks for 2 weak. KINO
Edward died for this schlomo to take his place?!
What was the point of showing the reader this when it doesn't even factor at all into the chapter? It's just pure page filler. Like nearly everything else in this chapter. This chapter could have been condensed into 3-4 pages.
>too strong>too weakclone him a third time and miss goldylock'll be juuuuuust riiiight
Gilbert is such a bitch>Edward's soul is within GilbertYeah, that's the point of their pseudo reincarnation
SteroidGODS.........I kneel.
>>287928571He already lost all the remaining aura when he got called a bitch by Hassad Wu. And then went firmly into negatives when he was shown sweating against Falcon and fucking Kim
>JOBliusfags think they got the upper hand when Gilbert hasn't even used removalKek, next week is gonna be funny
>>287928581there's no way that gilbert will lose this early unless it's a moral loss where he still keeps his watch
I'm still waiting for Julius to grab a tree and start swinging.
YUP!
>>287928613Chopstick Johnny is gonna sweep
>>287928634Holy ai generated mudo
>>287928649>Hassad WuBased
>>287928634To cut to Toa being off screened later>>287928637kek
Even JOBlius gets one over Gilbert, Jesus. Kenganvenger buff and all but damn if this isn't the least threatening villain ever made.
>several pages where Sandro insists that Gilbert is totally Edward, has 100% the abilities of Edward and is in fact so much like Edward he has his soul>only for Gilbert to act like an instant_loss 2koma knife jobber and get wrecked by JuliusSandro is such a fucking psycho lmaoWhat's even the point of going this far on a post-mortem humiliation ritual
>>287928581It's the dollar cost averaging of jobber flags, if you both consistently throw red flags at the same time you bait the other guy into spending his HOWEVER too early and beating him on the plot armor rebound
>>287928143>Kim Janggi
>Julius already used his however and is now talking about insurmountable walls>Gilbert hasn't even used Guihun yetYeah, it's over. This is the exact same "let me look cool and pretend there's a chance I'm actually going to win" routine he tried on Agito before getting dog walked.Gilbert still look like a bitch though.
>>287928659Accompanied with at least two pages describing how physically difficult it is to uproot a tree.
>>287928645It did just feel like wasted pages with the Kures. It makes sense they’d be there but they’re not telling us anything we haven’t heard before.
>>287928568the “tragedy”…
>>287928634It's Sandro setting the stage so he can entirely offscreen their fight.
>JOBemoval
ITS NOT REINCARNATION ITS JUST A RETARDED AND CONTRIVED BRAINWASHINGWHATS THE POINT OF KILLING EDWARD IF YOURE JUST GONNA REPLACE HIM WITH ANOTHER EDWARD
>>287928568None of them had scaled “The Wall” yet
>>287928676The funny thing is that the Arabian Wu leader explicitly talked about how Gilbert is a disgrace compared to Eddie
>>287927248I really enjoyed it before. It was comfy.
>this rancid pacingThis manga isn't going to end until at least 2030, even if this island """"""battle royale"""""""" arc ends up being the manga's final arc.
Let's begin the weekly ritualChapter 353 - The God of the Underworld vs. The Monster
>>287928691Kek, this is like reading Bleach
>Gilbert will obviously win this, he hasn't used Removal yetYou guys *do* know the chapter Gilbert uses Guihun is the chapter he loses right? It's arguably a BIGGER red flag than using knives.
>>287928616holy jobber wordsIt's so fucking over julius-bros
>>287928744
>>287928744KINGlius!!
>>287928744Julius doesn’t look big enough
>>287927588!?
>>287928691God that top panel keeps me warm on winter nights. I love Julius humilliation rituals.
Lmao Sandro can't ever let his Kenganvengers look bad to the detriment of his villains
>>287928759I still don't care about Fusui.Genuinely the most useless out of the entire female cast. And that's saying something.
Gil screaming how effort got nothing on muh Wu genetics seems like a surefire loser flag. HOWEVER seeing Gilbert with his hair partially down at the end makes me think he'll get a "powerup" by returning to his previous look and rejecting Eddie larp, thus becoming "his own man". This chapter insisting on "wow, he's literally Edward" could be just the foreshadowing for it.
>>287928793
>>287928793Surely these three could've entered the tournament over jobbers like Supernova
Memes and sarcasm aside, if you unironically can't tell where this is going you should get an IQ check. The roider won't last.
>>287928813
Break week was better
>>287928737Yeah it’s been noticeably bad lately.
>>287928793COOM INSIDE THE KURES IN YOU'RE PATH
>>287928761Forget Julius, even Toa's shrunk
>>287928645There was a point in time where there were two Edward souls walking around, they can duplicate their souls
>>287928786It's not even a good kenganvenger it's like a C tier kenganvenger
>>287928828
>>287928793Hey at least they’re cute, even if they’re only ever spectators from now on
>I've caught up to y-ACK>Let me show you the insurmountable power g-ACKThis retard literally cannot learn his lesson.
>>287928852
>>287928724So that Sandro can have his subversion cake of having the hero beat the villain too early but also eat it too by having the villain's clone then beat the hero (offpanel). Now he is going for a double serving by having Gilbert job to Julius before facing Raian. This is one barbecue you don't want to miss!
>>287928876Juliusissies, why is our hero so small?
>>287928876
>>287928876I know they’re both supposed to be huge but they look almost normal here.
>>287928893>he really is strongWhat did he mean by this?
Julius has the same winning chances as Bejita against an arc main villain
>>287928893
>>287928813>>287928828What were the tricks?
>>287928852>shooting a double legWhat happened being anti technique FRAUDulius?
>>287928899because there's nothing in the background to compare them toit almost looks like they are fighting on the moon
>>287928802>foreshadowingThat's a literary technique that only works when the previous chapter is still considered canon.
>>287928919
>>287928888Don't look up his actual hitbox...
>>287928793Both don't do shit. Karla just exists to show how super cool Ohma is and for some reason he's the only fighter a Kure woman has shown interest in even though there's nothing actually special about his genes.Fusui is Raian's sister so Sandro wants to keep her "relevant" for whatever reason since that kind of makes her an extension of Raian.
>>287928527did Karla shrink??
>>287928941
>>287928888It's not that Julius is small Gilbert actually is just that big.check the stats on the previous chapter.
Did julius fuck this anon's girlfriend?
>>287928968JuliusGAWD
>>287928963
>>287928968VIRILEulius...
>>287928968Roiders can't fuck anything unless they take it on the ass
>>287928574He looks so disappointed. Almost sad.
>>287928984>With the previous comment, I'm supposed to believe that Edward wouldn't have flattened Julius' face like a pancake if they actually fought
>>287928876you know who else got more? MY MOM
>>287928984>>287929005TANKED!!
>>287929005
>>287928993>they take it on the assSaar?
>>287928968His dick would have to work for that
>>287929025>WHIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>>287929005BEAST!!!!
>>287929025What the fuck? He twisted his nipples with that much force?!
Julius is going to get one-shot next week. Cap this.
>Tatertots Shitstain BoringWhat did Julius mean by this?
>>287929025>ULTIMATE NIPPLE TWISTER
>>287929005FUARKKK!!
>>287929025
Even if it's not a subversion bullshit and Gilbert actually wins, him getting this messed up by the razor-thin man paints a very clear picture of things to come. He's gonna get Alan'd once he actually gets to Raian
>>287929072Gilbertsisters...
lmao where are these camera angles coming from. Is this MF GHost with drones and shit?
>>287929072He's... he's literally Kuroki..............
>>287929072Fusui wants that BIG Julius COCK.
>>287929072And done.
>>287929072Gilbertbros we are at minimum middiffing fucking julius...
>>287929072Kek Julius is destroying that Wu faggot mutt
>>287929025Somebody post it
>>287929092too bad that he's probably infertile
>>287929072From nutrients to plebeian
>>287928568>>287928698>>287928919For the record, Sandro was the one responsible for making all of "us" relive the "tragedy".See the draft for this page
>>287929072If Julius learned the devil lance he could've punched through the plot armor
>>287929092She wants that superior BWC
>>287928984holy jobberspeech
>SHITechnique
>>287929072Missed chance to use nutrient
>>287929105how the fuck does he expect to handle raian?
>>287929124
>>287928963BAD TOUCH BAD TOUCH
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIEEEEEEE!!! YOU ARE ONLY STRONG BECAUSE OF ROIDS AND PEDS!!Kek. Why don't Kures and Wus use them too?
>>287929072He looks like he's about to cry.
>>287929159eugenics are strongermutants like wakatsuki even stronger
>>287929159They need to continue the family line
Holy shit, Julius and Gilbert are throwing so many jobber flags I'm convinced both will lose (somehow)
Arashiyama and Toa are fighting just a few meters away so they'll collide into Removal Gil knocking him off balance allowing Julius to take him out for good
>>287929144>The theory of no theory became a circle, and I and the other tribe's>The alarming enemy that has retreated in pain>I'm locking down>perhaps Gilba. H4ed's, 5 Loans>she Equal force. He said he was lying down, chafingUnfathomable draft
>>287929170SHITsuki was getting ragdolled by Julius tho.
>>287929159Most people don't like the idea of trooning out
>>287929196tanked that
>>287928876Literally not more emasculating.
I am still fucking puzzled as to why Sandro killed off Gilbert only to replace him with his literal clone with all the same memories
>>287929142Julius is as strong as Raian so would be a difficult fight either way
Gilbert doesn't act like Edward at allEdward was effortlessly cool and this guy is a fag
>>287929202>Kurefags out of nowhere
>>287928952No dick does that to a girl
>>287928993Damn, Anon's girl is a freak!
>>287929184>jobberThey're both doing pretty well which is surprising from Sandro
>>287929213You mean Edward
>>287929213Get this time traveller off this board before he says anything more distressing than Edward 3.0
>>287929093Never has a motherfucker lost aura as bad as Gilbert.At this point I'm sure that Agito could kill the entire Wu and Kure clans singlehandedly.
>>287929225Silence, nutrients!
Oh wait, there's still an option of Gil getting bailed out by Dodo or Chopsticks Johnny. This way Sandro can go >Well, Julius only lost because it was 2 v 1, he's still very strong!
>>287929213He still needed an antagonist to keep the Kure Side B plot going but since he couldn't have Raian struggle under any circumstances he couldn't go the obvious way of "just have Eddie win and have Raian prepare his revenge" so had to asspull this whole pseudo-Huisheng plot.Sandro's ability and willingness to make his job actively more difficult just to avoid his characters looking "bad" is an extremely bizarre trait of his that people don't really discuss enough.
>>287928893Perhaps, he’s too strong.
>>287929305gil getting bailed out would make him a bitch foreverhe's just gonna use removal and outstat julius
>>287929294Neko Niko had it far worse, atleast Gilbert isnt shaking and pissing himself yet
>>287929213>>287929259What would actually be the reaction to Edward 3?
>>287929318>gil getting bailed out would make him a bitch foreverGil has been a bitch forever for literal years now
If Gilbert loses to Julius would it be Kino? Gilbert turning out to be an Edward larper who had lost his angsty rebellious soul is just hack writing. Can Sandro redeem himself and somehow make Gilbert filled with so again? Looks like Gilbert right now is returning to his roots, if he's just a mirror of edward with no change then he deserve to die by Julius' roided muscles
>>287928827See in any other manga I'd say you have a point, but never forget nobody actually expected Eddie to FUCKING DIE during his first run-in with Raian.
>>287929318>outstat juliusIt is narratively impossible to outstat Julius, it is a hex to even try
>SHARTmoval
Here it is!The raw for the nutrients page.
>>287929333>333>edward 3
>>287928527Karla, the wife of Ohma
>>287929184My bets are Julius will lose but it will be extremely cheap and lame, making Gilbert look like an even bigger bitch and completely unworthy of the victory.
>>287929365Scratch that anon, did you think that TWO of the 3 villains that the previous manga teased would wind up dying in their very first fights? And that the third would be reduced to a pathetic laughingstock who spent most of his run in the manga acting as ryonabait?
>>287928527Kill MARRY Fuck
>>287928952>>287928527She looks like she is 145cm here, perhaps the smallest character in kengan. She probably still horrendously outstats everyone here, Imagine losing to such a small woman in arm wrestling
>>287929487Correct
>>287929358>If Gilbert loses to Julius would it be KinoNo, the closest outcome to any semblance of excitement would be Julius, Jurota and Toa triple teaming 100 Guihun Gilbert and only then having him defeated. And even that would be only slightly better than what we're getting
>>287929452I honestly thought that Fei would win and Sandro wouldn't repeat the same thing he did with Eddie but I was "green" at that time.
>>287929452And beyond those 3, all the setup for what seemed to be the definitive true endgame villain ends up being comic relief
>>287928952she got nerfed
>>287928613Is Xia Ji either gonna be Dodo or Chopstick Johnny. Will Our Boytoy make an appearance
>>287928827Theres no telling what happens to a Sandro plotline until it actually happens
>>287929493She has assassin demon clan blood, it’s not my fault.
KKKKKKKKKKKKKIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGlius!!
>>287928827The only thing I’m convinced on where it’s going is, Gilbert still wins and gets away to rest and recover a bit before finally fighting Raian. I don’t see them not doing that here.
>>287929551The people who were doubting Julius at the start of this thread are never going to make it. Our king is the strongest
>>287929551Woah
Call me when we're fighting with baritsu again
>>287929358Kino would have been Raian losing to Gaolan and have Gilbert fighting for hours before being told he's been chasing somebody that isn't there.Gilbert losing is just Sandro shitting on a villain again before Gilbert gets murdered by random kures.
>>287929358>Looks like Gilbert right now is returning to his rootsYou mean when Edward started speaking in jobber babble?
>>287929530Don’t give me hope. Besides he should allegedly be locked up right now.
>>287929124>Hey Sandro, I got an idea for this page>No, no, you HAVE to copy and paste that chapter. Remind themWhat the fuck is wrong with him?
>>287929493Using removal to stat check your opponent is bullshit.
>>287929025>>287929072WAMMUUUUU
>>287928793Fusui is a gun user in a martial arts manga, she never had a chance
>make hype character>completely waste him>bring him back as clone>try to hype him up for 200 chapters>completely waste him againWhat was the point of Gilbert?
>>287928952She's supposed to be 154cm. That's definitely a stylistic shot given that they looked more accurate in the previous panel.>>287929493Anon, please...
>>287929653This is the gayest perspective ive ever seen drawn in a manga
>>287928613I forgot, who did Falcon job to?
Dodo isn't going to be Fei or a clone of some other dead character, he's going to be the last surviving member of the Dragon Clan who somehow missed the massacre and forgave Shen because "they probably deserved it", and he's going to fight Koga and Ryuki so they can refine those scroll techniques they learned.
>>287929551fuark...
>>287929672Gilberto offscreen
>>287929530
>>287929697Taking down one named character before getting manhandled by CHADlius is alright I guess
>>287929687She used Removal on her womb
>>287929687I can tell the artist isnt american cause they would have used Muteba
>>287929624He isn't even locked up, the kengan police just let him go and roam free after getting raped by CHADga
>>287929758Nice projection Korean fag.
>>287929493>>287929518>small and stackedHHHHNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG
>>287929105Remember, in this series the underdog is usually the villain.
>>287929784It is amusing that Koga has now gone after 2 people who have been reduced to being hobos scrounging for garbage.
>>287929687Julius isn't even natty. Should've have gone for Wakatsuki instead.
>>287929530As much as I want to see him again it's legitimately over if he shows up. Him appearing in a photograph with the real Nicolas is enough of a bad omen.
>>287929687K,b,c.
>>287929859Her obsession with Ohma never sat right with me even after the reveal that he is a clone of Shen. The story emphasizes that Shen doesnt have a particularly good body, everytime he does some bullshit, he follows it up with "anyone can do this". Half the kengan tournament probably have a better body than Ohma
>>287928581Sandro seems to be doing that a bit lately.SiR is basically red flag vs red flag as well>Opponent is being hyped up as "TOTALLY INSANE MERCENARY" and calls all the techniques opponent is throwing out 'weak' which includes a new stronger variation of an old one>Other character is a 0-2 Jobber who took over the match for Hina
>>287929989I mean the whole thing didn't make sense when it was shown the Ohma was struggling and there were clearly far more inherently strong people there. Then again, maybe Sandro had the tact to think against a 16 year old trying to hop on Beard's dick.
>>287929989Shens body is shit because of age though isn't it?Like, he's supposed to be 60-something and have completely white hair, right?
>>287929989>Her obsession with Ohma never sat right with me even after the reveal that he is a clone of Shen.that does make sensekure women genes are screaming at them to make strong babies
>>287929687julius would have a micro dick after all the drugs he's been using
>>287929670Duh, it's Jojo
>>287929333That kid would be what, like 10 years old? Does the Kengan Association have a Junior Division?
>>287928984>Just a mediocre plebian who thought he could surpass his limits by dopingI mean its true but you still shouldn't say that Gilbert. You'll hurt the feelings of all the roiders out there.
It's been a while, pls be gentle
>>287929383Verdict, nip speakers?
>>287930060He has white hair? I always imagined it to be blond
>>287930099CHADroids don't shrink your dick, you fqt fuck.
>>287930175This feels kinda outdated by a few chapters. GJ nonetheless.>>287929383So what does he actually say?
>>287930060Supposedly he appears "middle aged" to everyone in the story due to his "yoga" even though he should be 70+ by this point in the story.
>>287930269He's the genetic template for Ohma and so onEither he dyes it or there's some metal gear recessive genes shit going on
>>287930175Bottom left is the most true for this chapter
What is it about Julius that causes this anon to seethe so much?
>>287928876>be only good at one thing>Base Gilbert simply tanks it easilyKWABAROONI>>287929093Never believe JOBlius. Never fall for his bluffs. Legit just hot hair coming from this all-talk BITCH.
>>287930311Even after all the steroids, Julius' dick is still twice as big
>still seething at KINGliusKWABOOTY!!!
The way if Gilbert was actually the supersoldier clone of one of the greatest leaders of this Chinese Assassin clan, this fight ends right here.
>>287930332But no, he's just some "BIG BOSS ENEMY" jobber with the same face as the previous one for Raian to curb so Sandro can say "look my princess is really strong" such a waste
LLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDlius!!!
>>287930332I'm still wondering why he hasn't used Guihun yet. It's not like it has some massive downside. Then again, Edward didn't until he did and lost like 2 seconds after.
>>287929383>>287930217>>287930288He does actually call them nutrients - 養分
>>287930364Like letting go of the clinch and choke
>>287930397To just smack his face, what is this amateur hour? How is this the best ever of the Wus, it makes no sense
>>287929989It's true love
>>287930396I don't understand. Why is he actually calling him that? Is he a cannibal now? Did he take the demon larp too far? Why nutrients even. Even shit like "stepping stone" would make more sense but he doesn't know these guys. >Anon, you've picked a weird thing to obsess aboutI know but it's just so weird.
>>287930371Removal has been retconned into removing your precision like the advance.
>>287930332>>287930364>>287930397>>287930424KINGlius would TANK that!!
>>287930441I don't think you'll need much precision dealing with a target that big.
Ohma not knocking up Karla is one of the biggest shitshows.She has NOTHING else to do
>>287930452Even fucking Cosmo can choke Julius and that's Sandros word, I don't understand why and how after all that hype Gilbert fights like such an idiot
>>287930433It can also be interpreted as nourishment and if you squint reaaaaally hard maybe he meant it like nourishment for his martial arts growth. I do agree it sounds dumb
If Julius loses here then he's quite literally the definition of a jobber
>JOBsmoJulius GAPES and RAPES that BITCH!
>>287930494Has been since Agito and the razor thin margin
>>287930494He beat an actual homosexual ballerina though, and that's what counts. Also Toa I guess. It is weird how that win doesn't really feel like much considering it's literally just him + Niko style.
>>287930460It goes both ways, he has an easier time hitting you because he is that big.
>>287929310>since he couldn't have Raian struggle under any circumstancesYou're forgetting Raian losing to the Wu clan in the timeskip! (his defeat was entirely offscreen) (all it did was give him a two week training arc and a head start on principles). Which is a shame because an unshaven punished seething Raian grudge match arc could have been pretty good, but we got the fucking Willem fight instead.
>all this seetheMY HEROOOOOOOOO!!!
>>287927195Now I feel bad for not joining the daily since I didn't want to retroactively ruin Ashura for myself by noticing all the Sandroisms
>>287930424>To just smack his faceThis reminds me of...
>>287930433>>287930490I thought it was making fun of lifters being obsessed with macros and shit like that, not an "I'll vore you" threat.
>>287930746>Super low takedown>Already crotch level when he does soUnfathomable, truly.
>>287929005julius trained his face
>>28793028960 is middle aged for asians, they live to 120
>>287928106WHAT THE FUCK WAS HE THINKING?
>>287930828Think?
>>287929025Its funny to me that Julius, a 400+ pound man, just did a kip up casually.
>>287929072*sniffles*>K-KNOW YOUR PLACE PLEBIAN!>N-NO I'M NOT ABOUT TO CRY!>STOP IT! I'M A WU! I AM A GOD!
>>287929093...and Jurota + Toa are here too, I guess. Julius is Geodudemaxing
>>287929159because once you start roiding you literally have to keep roiding forever otherwise you lose your muscles. And if you roid for a long period of time then your hormones get absolutely fucked and that probably doesn't jive well with a clan that's interested in eugenics,.
>>287930897Do not doubt GERMAN MEDICINE.
>>287930897as expected from the "monster" of "mobility"
>>287928848Carlos Medel was a heavyweight world champion who then decided>I think I'll go into the underground and kill my opponents, I guess?>And I want to try being bantamweight, I guess??>And screw boxing, I think I'll dance and learn capoeria, I guess?!?And he's still stronger and a better boxer than Gaolang, apparently.Oh, not that "killing" is allowed in Sandrovich's "underworld" anymore, of course. That would be unsightly. The underworld is very honorable. They'll kill you if you're not.
>>287930897Are you doubting the MONSTER?
>>287930481I don't fucking care what yabHACKo says.that literally makes no sense since we've already seen that Julius was easily able to snap Sawada's entire leg off.
>>287928852You mean oxford formal dress shoes WEREN'T the best footwear to select when participating in a free-for-all brawl deathmatch on a deserted tropical island forest?Huh!
>>287928793>I still don't care about FusuiI don't see any reason why Fusui and Karla couldn't have been the same character who wanted to sex up Ohma and be Raian's Sister. They're both do-nothing characters, Fusui never actually did 'anything' during Asura and Sandro dropped Karla's one character trait, being horny for Ohma so they're effectively two Kure bitches who show up sometimes to say some lines of dialogue before EXITING>>287928827Gilbert will win, Julius will "put up a fight" and lose with some "dignity">>287929093Julius said something very very similar when he fought Agito, then he got decimated like it was nothingJulius never mastered any sort of hexes, that's why he keeps eating shit
Julius WILL WIN.
>>287930494His design is 100% jobber material>looks like a generic muscle goon with 0 MC charisma>he's not even likeable and is an arrogant hothead>his combat style is quite boring to watch>his whole gimmick is just being phisically stronger than everyone (so other top fighters can beat him and shine)>despite being a top tier fighter the only top tier fighter he bested was Julius V2.0
>>287928690that was my favorite kengan thread arc. didn't last long but it burned so bright.
>>287930555>techniques are useless>anyway here is my muscle rippling drill fist technique
>>287929072>Raian practically still healthy after facing Kaolan "The Pillow Fist" Wongsawat>Gilbert takes a whole SteinbohrerThis doesn't seem very fair.
I'm waiting for Toa and Jurota to ENTER and the trio fights Gilbert, beating him up and leaving him, then Raian shows up and curbstomps Gilbert into the ground.
CANNOT wait for Julius to TANK removal and BTFO Gilbert.
>>287931162No seriously, what are those two doing? This was supposed to be a three way. Are they playing patty cake at the side watching them?
>>287928919>If I had to guess>The author simply recreated the same character>A literal clone>Because he wanted to>And there's never any threat in this manga>You can die and still brush it off with a "lol">I know this for a fact because I'm an underground fighter in his manga; I'm omnipotent and omniscient and still job and am surprised when strong people break out of clinches
>>287931083Karla actually had 2 character traits, a rude little shit and horny. The former got dropped fast
>>287930396Ok, now we need Bonganons to tell us if this is some obsecure insult in their island.
Julius sucks
Julius is based.
>>287931186Next chapter we'll those two fight. Then we'll cut back to the audience to get their reaction (specifically Xing Wu and the Kures). Then someone in the crowd be all like OH MY GAWD! and everyone will look at the Gilbert-Julius monitor with Gilbert coming off his Guihan over Julius's destroyed corpse or something. Then Jurota and Toa will agree to stop their fight to face Gilbert in a 2 on 1.
>>287930396Where are you reading the raws?
>>287928776>axedI'll never forgive the Japanese
Gilbert is basically Luohan in a way that he's not what the narrative wants us to believe, but we're just supposed to blindly believe it because our beloved protagonists said so.Gilbert isn't even strong ffs, reminder that he was bleeding and out of breath facing off against the mighty unfathomable combination of Falcon and Kim Jang-Gi. Yet Gayboy Wu here tells us he's supposedly stronger than Eddie.
>>287929005>>287929025>>287929072>>287929093MuscleGODS? It's our time to shine.
>>287931515>Gilbert isn't even strong ffs, reminder that he was bleeding and out of breath facing off against the mighty unfathomable combination of Falcon and Kim Jang-Gi.He unironically healed that off screen somehow though.
>>287931044>Julius was easily able to snap Sawada's entire leg offBallet did 90% of the work for Julius there. There is nothing more excruciating than ballet taken seriously.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zml42Po2bpwI remember how hype it was when he one-shot Toa after Kengan was down 0-2 to kick off the reverse sweep
>>287929093It's unblievable how much of an aura vacuum Julius is. Everytime he manages to hold his own against a fighter you can't help but lose respect for his opponent. Whoever struggles against this dumb retarded /fit/fag looks completely incompetent. First Wakek, and now fucking Gilbert, even though Gilbert has the advantage in physique. I know Sandrobitch plans to have Gilbert go 100% guihun and stomp him, but even having to resort to Removal against this cunt feels humiliating.
>>287931568>Hype>First loss was a ring out and that Gaolang is a retard for touching the ground first>Second loss was via poison and arguably the only clean Purgatory win, one of the two at leastNah.
>>287931568It was very funny because everyone expected Gaoland and Rihito to win. But no, Julius was the first one to score a victory
>>287928852WRESTLEliusTAKEDOWNliusMMAliusDOUBLELEGliusGRAPPLEliusTECHNIQUEliusFRAUDlius
>>287931543He ate their nutrients to heal
>>287931574He stomps a huge portion of the cast but he keeps getting pitted against hard-counter opponents that can just LIQUID MAGIC away his power. He didn't even get to stomp one of the jobbers in the Champion Tournament, for fucks sake.I was looking forward to him fighting Jurota because trying to wrestle Julius seems like suicide, but now we won't get that.
I hope Toa gets a win. He deserves it
>>287931515Luohan isn't actually evil because Sandro doesn't want to put in the effort to demonstrate that "aberration" of Luohan's because that would mean putting one of his beloved Kengan characters through the ringer and maybe even die, so we just get told how much of a bastard Luohan isGilbert isn't actually all that strong because then Sandro would have to display one of his beloved Kengan characters getting no-diffed so instead he gives him flashback W's, lip-service and some Purgatory Fodder who still had the benefit of making Gilbert bleed
>>287931681It's funny how Toa should be OP as fuck on paper but he just somehow... isn't.
>>287927762Truth nuke. But understandable considering Ashura is babby's first martial arts manga.
>>287931574I blame Sandro for turning Julius into Agito's personal sentient punching bag during his humiliation ritual fight. Now everyone who fights this unga bunga retard looks bad the more they struggle against him.
You ever feel a visceral fear that Chopstick Johnny won't live up to the hype?
>>287931697I'm surprised he didn't get the Monke treatment>UH HE ACTUALLY KILLED SOMEONE WHEN HE WAS FLEEINGLike that's so easy Sandro or are you now self conscious about it?
>>287927588Itagaki could write a chapter about Yujiro watching paint dry and it would have more artistic merit than the entirety of Omega.
>>287928984>>287929093Real jobber hours
>>287931709The story doesnt allow any of his magic to work. He should be tanky as all hell like Waka/Julius due to superweight magic. He also has limp magic that can completely negate damage from Julius of all people. Despite the disgusting combination of two defence magics stacked on top of eachother, Lolong one shots him just because.People were thinking he was KAT finals material when his abilities were first revealed and the narrative can not cope with that
>>287928793Her entire existence is Ohmawank.
>>287932024She wanked Hina too
>>287928793I wanted to argue with you on that because i was sure i remembered something of substance Fusui has done in Omega but then i realize she's just cuter than Karura and i want to sex her so my mind hallucinated a timeline where she is plot relevant.I apologize for being straight and horny for anime women
>>287931728>I blame Sandro for turning Julius into Agito's personal sentient punching bag during his humiliation ritual fight.That was the only good Julius fight, excluding the Sawada stomp. This is exactly where Julius belongs: at the feet of any fighter big enough to not get instastomped.>>287931671Judo is EXACTLY made for styling on these kinds of retards.
>>287928603Don't forget an entire page of flashback panels.
>>287931766What happened to Yumi was probably an in-joke between Sandro and Daro
>>287928919A few pages back they said with guarantee that his soul is in Gilbert so this feels off.
>>287928744>>287928828Holy fucking AI batman >>287928893I know Gilbert is the same size as Julius but this still just doesn't look right. >>287928919Knee too pointy. Would not fuck.
>>287930331>reddit answerGo back.
>>287928984>>287929072>plebian Did Edward talk like this? I can't really remember. I remember him being talking shit but not like this. This plebian shit and whatever the "nutrient" dialogue was from last chapter was, is all throwing me. Even if it's AI generated dialogue, where is really coming from?
>>287931995100% truth detected.
>>287932127Goddamn that was an embarrassing post to read. I feel sad for your parents.
>>287929383>>287930396The fuck? It really was nutrients? Lmao>>287931224People say "you don't have the minerals" meaning you don't have the balls but that's about as close to nutrients as I can get.
>>287928573She literally never amounted to anything beyond being the third case of "look how hot and popular Ohma is with the ladies".
>>287932340>"ChatGPT, take this line of dialogue and change it to sound as if it were spoken by a British man"
>>287932127Don't let the homo rile you up, King. You'll make it.
>>287932446He should be throwing around the word "absolute" before any insult if that was the intention. And it wouldn't even be a bad word, just any regular old item. You absolute bathtub. You absolute kettle. You absolute dinner plate. You absolute toothbrush. The intonation is where it's at for the British.
Wait, Gilbert is supposed to be a britbong?
>>287932532>He should be throwing around the word "absolute" before any insult if that was the intention. And it wouldn't even be a bad word, just any regular old item. You absolute bathtub. You absolute kettle. You absolute dinner plateGod I hate the british.
>>287932544The Western factions' names and the buildings all looked pretty European/British from what I remember. >>287932561Spoken like an absolute table lamp you have you have.
>>287932340Plebian is playing up Gilbert's British origins.Nutrients is Gilbert being a tryhard and calling people EXP.
>>287928874Da fuck is that hand
>>287932627What, are your fingers different lenghts or something? Freak
>>287928984>>287932446>You're nought but a stout lad>Just a bog standard wanker who fancied himself top notch through doping, yeah?>Know your station, bloody wanker
>>287932627It looks like a strange plant because he's nutrients.
>>287932663foken posh classist bellend
>>287929072Kure girls want to acme from the German acme.
>>287931753don't you fucking say that, I'm all in on Chopstick Johnny coin
>>287928744the physiques are starting to look insanely ai , that toa SPECIALLY also>god of the underworldwhat the fuck has gilbert even done to earn that title?
>>287932127>I apologize for being straightunderstandable, at least you recognize your mistake>and horny for anime womennothing to apologize for
Even at the start Julies' technique was weird, but as time goes on its portrayals get even weirder and more esoteric.Picrel to this day leaves me confused on how exactly it does anything, but then >>287929025 looks like Whamuu in Battle Tendency
>>287932812>the physiques are starting to look insanely ai , that toa SPECIALLY Daro can't be fucked to cover it up sometimes. I assume that's a reason behind the INCREDIBLY THICK lines that started appearing on everyone during action scenes>what the fuck has gilbert even done to earn that title?He just... Changed his old nickname to that after eating a grenade and getting bitched out by the faggot nanny known as Yan and the passive douche known as Shen
>>287932621Maybe it's more of a rich person thing cause I have not heard a normal British guy call anyone a plebian apart from like ~2014 when calling people plebs was the cool thing to do.
>>287932875It's drills, he basically tightens his arms where it twists and then releases it as he punches. Genuinely just a beefier Rakshasha's.
>>287930160if this was baki the narrator would explain how child rights are actually made to hold kids back from their combat potential because adults became afraid of their power
>>287932561absolute bloody nonsense
>>287932127It's okay. you'll be fine, dude
>>287932875>Julies' techniqueIt's not a technique.
>Play Dissidia Duellum>See this
>>287933500Heh>>287933412>Flexing your muscles so much that it twists in around itself, bolstering your punches>Not a technique>I do what you do>Kure Secret Style: CopyWhat is the truth Sandro?
>>287933500how long is this squareslop gonna last before eos
>>287933537Julius is just flexing really hard is how I think he copes with it. And if you copy a technique, are you not using the technique yourself?
>>287933500What's that? Square Gacha #273726?
>>287930797Not if they flu catches them.
>>287933570What if you copy gott toter?
>>287930797I wonder if he is going through that thing where Asians dont age at all throughout their life then all of a sudden look like 110 year old monk elders in the span of a few years
>>287933613New Dissidia except they're in modern Japan. It's quite cute.
>>287933713Anyone other than Toa won't have the muscles to flex so whatever they end up doing will be a technique unique to them.
>>287933755Yeah, it'll be by the end of this tournament at the rate we're fucking going
>>287933840Wakabros.......
>>287933958Mate, fucking Icy McGee Himuro could tank a whole ass body check from Waka. That motherfucker is lying through his teeth about his muscle density.
>>287934029>Mate, fucking Icy McGee Himuro could tank a whole ass body check from Waka.Thank you Sandro for ruining everything you've built up.
>>287929025Holy shit, the bottom right panel is such an under-illustrated wet fart of a follow-up to the previous panel. >HMPH, TOO WEAK BITCH>TAKE MY MOTHERFUCKING GOTT-TOTER STEINBORHER AT POINT BLANK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAfollowed by>hop :D>owie u knocked me back a lil D:Completely nullifies any sense of power or impact.
>>287934060You don't understand bro. Gilbert leaned in to disperse most of the damage by using principles.
>>287929025Okay, what the fuck is up with Julius' head? He looks like one of those bubbleheaded fishes.
>>287928613My bets are on Dodo. My bird WILL win!
>>287928793>>287928813>>287928919>HEY GUYS>REMEMBER THAT CHARACTER YOU LIKED?>YEAH, REMEMBER HOW I KILLED THEM OFF IN THAT REALLY FUCKING STUPID WAY?>YOU REMEMBER?>WELL GUESS WHAT>GET THIS>THIS NEW GUY >HE'S *BASICALLY* THAT OLD CHARACTER!!!>SO NO PROBLEM NOW OKAY? (U RIKE?)
>>287934103The AI needs more fine tuning.
>>287929530The Omega dailies really have you guys horned up over Xia Ji again, huh?
>>287934192So far in the daily he's more of an ugly gremlin than submissive femboy
>>287934192KvP hasn't really started so it hasn't even kicked into full gear.
>>287934136I remember making this. One day I'll go back and clean it up.
>>287933500This is fucking retarded, you go back to the sauna after the cold swim (Though not immediately, goes both ways) and once you're done you take a regular shower.
>>287929072>seething so hard sandro didn't bother to translate his mutteringKWAB
>>287930175>no contributionMy contributions have made it this far, "me"
>>287934029>TankHe went down in one fucking punch I don't see you getting on Raian's case for the same
kek
>>287931725Most martial arts manga would kill to have a tournament with back to back fights as good as the KAT. As someone who's read nearly 40 of these sorts of series Kengan Ashura is in the very top level and pre-50 Omega felt like it was going to be too before "that" chapter
>>287934632>He went down in one fucking punchYou're telling you don't think it's beyond ridiculous that the only thing that body check did was basically trip up Himuro? And he went down in one punch after tanking that, technically. >Raian's caseWhat did he tank? I genuinely don't remember. I do remember getting on Gaolang's case for tanking a Removal Raian though. Iirc Raian was throwing huge punches and Gaolang just blocks that shit like he's facing Kaneda or something.
>>287926201Kek I’m laughing ny ass of over how legit upset you sound
>>287934798A body check isn't actually likely to knock you out.
>>287927195Masterpiece
>>287934226>Ugly GremlinNo matter how scornful his gaze or painful his countenance Ji will always be cute. Frankly I can't understand how you saw his smug suave smile and thought it ugly.
>>287934821True, but if it's coming from someone that's like 200 kilos heavier than you with like 50 something times the muscle density, I would expect it to do a bit more than an oopsie teehee I slipped.
>>287934869Maybe but I think complaining that a fighter is underperforming if they don't immediately atomise a guy who's a few tiers below them on skin contact is entirely what went wrong with this manga, every fight is either a last second reversal or a steamroll. Gozo's about as strong as Himuro and he ate a punch and a slam.
>>287934122But he said the opposite of that a while ago
>>287928946>even though there's nothing actually special about his genes.literal connector clone
>>287934746Really? I sure as hell wouldn't put Ashura above KSKM for example. But maybe those 40 manga you're talking about are stuff like Kenichi in which case I agree.
>>287935022Ah yes, the Kure Arabs. Yes.
>>287929005>HOWEVER
>>287929072>nutrients>plebeianHe's like that one spergy bullied kid in class who tries to come up with creative insults whenever someone makes fun of him instead of just calling the guy a faggot
>>287929093Julius is going to lose but at least he survived a chapter
>>287929127>learning technique instead getting more muscles
>>287934931>complaining that a fighter is underperformingIt was a joke, anon. Just a silly little joke about Waka looking not quite as strong as one would expect. I still don't know what Raian fight you meant either.
>>287935080Amir Wu soon
>>287935063KSKM is genuinely garbage. 500 chapters of absolutely pathetically written characters, shameless karate wank and the most obnoxious Japanese whining/boasting combo about foreigners. Both Kenichi and Kengan absolutely shit on Karate Minoru.
>>287935445Only the arrival of Vkiram Wu could redeem this manga.
>>287935470As for series that I'd actually consider to be above Kengan (since KSKM is probably the worst long-running martial arts manga ever written and deserves neither further discussion nor futher contemplation):ToughShamoCestvsBaki (the best of Kengan is as good as the best of Baki but Baki has significantly longer period of good stuff compared to Kengan)If you want to throw in say, Ashita no Joe or something for being incredibly important that works too but that's a much better character study than a martial arts manga because the fights themselves are not really that interesting even if the majority of characters are extremely well written.
>>287935470Okay that settles it, you have absolutely garbage taste. I won't take you seriously but I wonder what kind of shit you've put in your top 5.
>>287935698>Tough>Shamo>BakiOkay I can't badmouth those. Though I won't even read Cestus. I don't give a fuck about made-up pseudo-roman "martial arts".>probably the worst long-running martial arts manga ever written and deserves neither further discussion nor futher contemplationYou're out of your mind.
>>287935699Top five is ToughShamoCestvsBakiprobably followed by Kengan which has been in a wierd spot because it keeps getting dragged down by Omega but would probably be top 3 if it was just Ashura. But you don't have to be top 5 to be better than KSKM which is just terrible dogshit characters being obnoxious.Every KSKM chapter is "Did you know Karate fighters train with BARE FISTS?""This foreigner can't fight for shit but we always have to worry that he'll bail himself out with his superior genes!""Buenos noches mi amigo I want to rape you."and then the shitty Takamura ripoff will blast someone into next week
>>287928759Nice try Sandro but I'm not that excited
>a thread for a dogshit chapter got over 500 posts lollmao
>>287935789We are so back
>>287935743Cestvs has some wierd stuff like the Roman ninjas but where it bothers to be historically accurate it has a better grasp on the setting and even a ton of the individuals than a lot of Roman historical fiction I've read. And I'm reasonably familiar with the specific period since it's early Julio-Claudians. >probably the worst long-running martial arts manga ever written and deserves neither further discussion nor futher contemplation>You're out of your mind.There's no worse long-running martial arts manga I can think of. It lasted for 500 chapters and I genuinely can't think of one that lasted even nearly as long with zero redeeming features. I think the only possible reccomendation is that there's very few dedicated kickboxing mangas that are that substantial but if you compare it to something like Teppu, Hajime no Ippo, Red Blue, or All-Rounder Meguru as a combat sports series (though Teppu is nowhere near as long) then it's obvious that the real weakness is how terrible the cast is.
>>287935789that's what a break week doesand we haven't even started the grill yet
>>287935753Okay I'll give Cestus a try.>Every KSKM chapter is>"Did you know Karate fighters train with BARE FISTS?"That's one of the good points, and a major sign of SOUL you dumbass. The author practices karate himself, and loves it so it's absolutely great to read him put that love on the page.>"This foreigner can't fight for shit but we always have to worry that he'll bail himself out with his superior genes!"I liked this honest talk about the complex the Japanese have about foreign fighters. Especially regarding Muay Thai.>"Buenos noches mi amigo I want to rape you."You're 100% right on this one. I would be OK with new releases blackholing those chapters.>and then the shitty Takamura ripoffOh fuck off no one cares about Ippo.
>>287929373You, or perhaps "we", are wise
>>287935835>the real weakness is how terrible the cast isI really don't get you. I think the exact opposite: I really enjoyed the characters, and thought that a lot of the opponents are cool as hell. Even years later I still remember some characters like Samart Sirindu or Kaoru.
>>287935927I used to do full contact karate as well, so let me tell you it actually takes some wank for get me annoyed at it. Especially since the corresponding weakness of them not punching the head doesn't seem to exist in KSKM.* This is like visiting a foreign country and meeting someone there who loves the country you come from but in a really wierd intense way and by the end you're just sick of it.It might actually be as bad as Kenji with Bajiquan.>I liked this honest talk about the complex the Japanese have about foreign fighters. Especially regarding Muay Thai.It's not an honest talk it's just aggravating. >Oh fuck off no one cares about Ippo.My issue is not that I love Ippo but for that specific character archetype it's really easy for them to be annoying (I guess more of the Senpai archetype where they aren't quite the wise old mentor but more of an active fighter). And with Takamura the balance was that his life sucked enough that it made him bearable overall rather than an asshole who's invincible and right all the time.But most of all I just hated the entire cast. You compared it to Kenichi earlier but Kenichi actually has a pretty strong main cast even if they're simple because they're pretty likable. What made KSKM irredeemable for me is that I hated every single character, it wasn't even a case of rooting for the villains or anything I just hated every single person in that manga. *(It's been a looooong time since I've read any of it so if I'm wrong I'm wrong but I thought it was wierd that the advantages came up a lot more than the disadvantages)
>>287934457That's what Zidane says.
>>287936100Is Kenji actually bad? I've had it recommended to me by a lot of people who know a lot about Chinese martial arts.
>>287936016The main cast has:-A pathetic moping pussyboy MC who starts off competent enough to not benefit from underdog points -The most obnoxious upperclassman of all time, a cosmically annoying bastard who never gets a smidgen of comeuppance*-A club leader who is intended to be comical and badass and just comes across as excruciatingly cringy and smarmy-major cast member who is literally an unrepentant rapist and every other line he has is him talking about how much he wants to rape men because he's Brazilian *(if a guy later on puts him in a wheelchair or something it didn't happen in the 200 or so chapters I read)
>>287936193Not because he's Brazilian, because he does BJJ
>>287935063>Manga where they invite serial gay rapist into the club and he just stays there, no consequencesThe fuck are you talking about?
>>287935022>Gilbert canonically defeated Raian and his forces, that's why Raian went for the magic sword>the narrative and characters in universe pretend this never happened and shit on Gilbert because uh....Willem died?
>>287927195Quality
>>287936184>KenjiKenji is inoffensive, I mainly remember it from reading it when I had absolutely fucked my knee and needed reading material for martial arts to keep me going.If you are annoyed by kung fu wank it will piss you off massively; it's written like an advertisement for Bajiquan to the active detriment of the manga (since most fights are curb-stomps). That being said it's not a terrible travel series where you basically follow around this guy doing a Shenmue esque warrior pilgrimage, so if you just want to see him talking to Chinese people about philosophy and doing exercise etc it's actually pretty cozy. The art is also quite nice.
>>287935470rather than karatewank it's ibukiwank and mutouwank since they are the only main characters who almost never have any difficult fights
>>287936100>I used to do full contact karate as well, so let me tell you it actually takes some wank for get me annoyed at it.Coming from Sanda and Sambo, the Karate wank seemed genuinely charming to me, and even convinced me to start training Karate and Muay Thai as a guest at another gym.>it's really easy for them to be annoyingHeh I liked him. He was an obvious fantasy of the perfect karateka, but I found him to be endearing, especially since he went to the background when stuff became more realistic.>I just hated the entire cast. You compared it to Kenichi earlier but Kenichi actually has a pretty strong main castI've never read Kenichi beyond the first chapters, since I have no interest in magic bullshit. Can't help you if you hated the cast that much.
>>287936270I can't remember the names of any of these pricks I'm guessing one is the spikey haired asshole senpai and the other one is maaaaybe the club president?
>>287936248Willem was the glue holding nu-Wu together, he had superman syndrome and everything...
>>28792724850 hurt me so bad that even during purgatory when muteba was off screening tiger and Raian was running through a time dilation hallway, all I could think about was chapter 50. Eventually I gave up and dropped omega when the fang match started. Every time Ohma spoke, it hurt. Whenever I looked at Koga and thought about his future, it hurt. It just hurt.
>>287928171The one piece storytime was interesting as it took years.
>>287936300He's not the perfect karateka. He's too violent and aggressive and not even the most hardcore karate dojos will approve of people acting like him he's just immune from consequences in any way.I mean if you don't like magic bullshit then yeah Kenichi is towards the more magical side of things but if that's the case I'm not sure why we're comparing KSKM to Kengan since Kengan isn't realistic either. But the actual realistic sports series like Red Blue, ARM, Teppu, Ippo, Rikudou, all absolutely mog KSKM.
>>287936261Works for me, I'm more into the arts part of martial arts and the kung fu movie stuff than actual application and "real" fighting anyway.
>>287936433Then you'll probably like it a lotIt should be noted that Kenji is basically credited with the massive popularisation of Bajiquan in Japan over other kung fu styles, hence why Akira from Virtua Fighter uses it and why stuff like the Body Check comes up a lot as a kung fu special move.
>>287936231ive not read that manga but that's a very funny clarification
>>287936382AND Holyland, let's not forget Holyland.
>>287935208It's time to accept that Gilbert is a /dbs/poster
>>287936319>muteba was off screening tiger and Raian was running through a time dilation hallway,the crazy bit is that it's not even a weekly release issue, i caught up with omega when it was around the 200th chapter and even speeding thru purgatory its baffling how raian just disappears for so many chapters even tho they explicitly set up he's rushing towards something
>>287935080it's not talked about more because Omega has 50 other more pressing issues but the Kure/Wu becoming more and more important as a part of the setting is really dumb. They're just not that interesting.
>>287935698Shamo is good until the unfortunate passing of the author. Kengan Omega never took that much of a dive.
>>287936303mutou is the gorillaibuki is the pretty boy
>>287936526Holyland is honestly not that realistic. The first third is trying to be a realistic gang fight series and it's a bit silly because you'll have things like the judo guy challenging him to a 1-on-1 fight instead of just jumping him, and then after the fight with the knife guy it just embraces being a bit whackier and improves immensely. I'll always have a soft spot for it having the best ending of any martial arts series I can think of except maybe Ashita no Joe.
>>287936569Shamo's author fucking died? That sucks. nta but I remember reading the first 50 chapters or so when it was new and thinking it was an interesting twist on the formula to have an MC that's an actual piece of shit.
>>287936382>since Kengan isn't realistic eitherThat's exactly why it takes a beating in my ranking. Add in the childish worldbuilding and humor and it's easy to see why it never struck me as the masterpiece some claim it is.>He's not the perfect karateka. He's too violent and aggressiveThat might be another point where being an outsider to Karate helped. Because honestly I found his character cool, and I liked having a proper fight autist always hungry to prove his strength.>and not even the most hardcore karate dojos will approve of people acting like himSeems we didn't train at the same kind of places. I've had a few coaches who enjoyed fighting outside, and one explicitly went out of his way to provoke fights. Missed a few practices to appear in court, made fun of LeBanner's nose when he came to teach a workshop, beat me black and blue for nailing him in the liver. All in all a real asshole, but a funny one.
>>287936569I'm not sure when that happens but I think, while the first arc in Shamo (from the beginning up until the fight with Suguwara in the temple) is clearly by far its best every arc afterwards had value until the last one where it felt like they ran out of ideas.
>>287936648I know some people despise the china arc to the point where some people say to just skip it
>All this talk about Karatewank Nipwank in general is incredibly eye-rolling and can really drag down a good fight. It's shit across the board, even in Baki where the wank is intentionally goofy
>>287936648The ring fight against Suguwara might be the best manga fight I've ever read. I remember cheering for Ryo more intensely than any gym buddy I've assisted. Goddamn that arc was incredible.
>>287936630It's not realistic in the sense of character actions. Compare it's realism to kenichi where they fight sharks or launch ten thousand arrows into the sky or KA where Inabas hair can stretch and Kuroki can make statues with his fingers.I'm thinking Holyland is very realistic. One of the most "yeah this story could've happened in real life" fight mangas out there
>>287936689They really can't help themselves. One of the manga I'm reading is "3 Kingdoms, but with a Japanese insert" and it's all about how Japanese morals are superior and how Chinese are so barbaric. It's half interesting half hilarious to see the unironic nature of it
>>287936638>That's exactly why it takes a beating in my ranking. Add in the childish worldbuilding and humor and it's easy to see why it never struck me as the masterpiece some claim it is.I mean Kengan is also not *trying* to be ultra-realistic, at most it's got heightened realism, Fist of the Seeker is a borderline Baki fan manga and Kengan is basically a refined version of that. Kiryu's twisty thing turns up like 20 chapters in. >your sensei fighting outsideI mean this is a good way to get stabbed or shot, depending on country. It's not simply a matter of "seeking peace" it's actively harmful to your health, you want to fight that's what competitions are for, picking street fights is a mug's game and always has been.
>>287936648The moment he was in a Chinese temple in the forest I knew something was off. Like how I can tell when an anime I'm watching is giving me a filler arc
>>287936677I dropped it at that point and it sounds like I missed out on some kino
Going back to the catalog from the Omega thread primes "our" brain in strange ways. I saw this thumbnail out of the corner of my eye and thought it was Xia Ji
>>287936739>>287936677I believe that arc was done by a different writer and/or had a LOT of editor interferenceIt's why all that tone shattering wushu ki shit was allowed in I don't mind it that much, it's still Ryo doing Ryo things in that kind of story
>>287936730Vinland Saga unironically has no nipwank. The author doesn't even try to push his luck with that.Even more strangely is Hara and his Chinese history manga, "Kingdom". No shots taken at the Chinese at all.
>>287936767>and thought it was Xia Ji"You" are "starting" to "learn". That'd be superman glutes btw.
>>287936730Could be worse. Could be WOMAN STRONK or negrowank.
>>287936695In that sense yeah but there's still some things that annoy me like the wrestler not shooting on concrete when you can just... bend over and 90% of people can't do shit, or he could just wear kneepads. That being said the wrestler in Holyland is an absolute bro and Yuu learning the joy of martial arts from sparring with him is one of the best chapters.>>287936677The thing about the China arc is that it's willing to be completely bonkers, in something like Kengan a monkey man who can stand on your fist and use ki or whatever wouldn't really stand out that much, but having it happen in your super gritty edgy martial arts thing is actually a huge impact. It's like in Shenmue when Ryo gets into the Yellow Head building and meets the kung fu guy dressed in makeup and a ceremonial outfit. It's like a martial arts horror story.>>287936691I really like both fights and I like that both Ryo and Suguwara are basically defeated in them, I think unlike a lot of manga Shamo didn't stop at "well if it's a sport you're not really learning how to fight" and actually critiqued both of their positions. The ring fight and the temple fight are both critical and basically can't exist without the other.>>287936689A little bit doesn't bother me. The stuff that really bothers me is when either it happens a lot or there's a really egrigious bit. I think I tend to get annoyed when MMA guys show up in these sorts of series to job horribly; funnily enough Holyland actually did it right where they're very strong but not unbeatable.
>>287936808It's also so incredibly self contained that you could remove it completely and remove nothing from the storyI think Sun wu Kong shows up as one of the guys Ryo is reminiscing about fighting at some point and that's it
I cannot fathom complaining about nipwank in media made specifically for nips
>>287936881I don't mind it until it gets really egregious, like GATE. You have to make some allowance for it, obviously.
>>287936881I'll complain if it's too much that it becomes parodic. Like with American on Chinese films.
>>287936731>I mean Kengan is also not *trying* to be ultra-realisticMy favorite parts are when it manages to be true to martial arts mentality, even with the non-realistic stuff. Like Gaolang sealing Agito's moves, or him having faith he'll bounce back after his defeat.>I mean this is a good way to get stabbed or shot, depending on country. It's not simply a matter of "seeking peace" it's actively harmful to your health, you want to fight that's what competitions are for, picking street fights is a mug's game and always has been.Neither me nor I seem to be "about that life", but several of my coaches came from rough backgrounds and routinely fought. And I respect that. After all martial arts weren't designed to be safely practiced in a controlled environment. Hence Mutou Ryuji seeming like some kind of wish-fullfilment character to me when I read KSKM. Kinda like Bunshinchi Tanba I guess.
>>287936881There's "Hey, us nips are pretty swingin'" and then there's the kind of shit that comes off like the japs are still mad they couldn't colonize all of asia
>>287936881They need to appeal to ME! Not their paying audience!
>>287936881there's nothing wrong with wanking your own nationality unless it comes at the cost of making your own story worse
>>287936881The Japanese stereotypes of western countries are usually positive enough to not be complained about (Chinese and Koreans probably have more reason to bitch) but in KSKM it's literally "oh these foreigners are so unskilled but their every punch makes up for it" in a really annoying wayEspecially funny when you look at modern Japanese combat sports starts like Inoue or Tenshin and they are these uber athletes.I do get what you mean though that people whining about most characters being Japanese in a Japanese series is stupid. Or complaining that Baki focuses on Musashi and Sumo and therefore has to be Japanese wank or whatever.**(though they did make Hakuho Japanese iirc...)
>>287936851>I think I tend to get annoyed when MMA guys show up in these sorts of series to job horriblyNot gonna lie I really don't mind it, since I'm kinda nostalgic for K-1 time where people used to have a little more faith in their chosen style. I hate "generic MMA", and much prefer people coming from their style and adding what's lacking or mixing two complementary styles.
>>287936979>but in KSKM it's literally "oh these foreigners are so unskilled but their every punch makes up for it"except the thai, which as opposed to being jobbers in baki are among the stronger in kskm
>>287936930>My favorite parts are when it manages to be true to martial arts mentality, even with the non-realistic stuff. Like Gaolang sealing Agito's moves, or him having faith he'll bounce back after his defeat.This I agree. I think the reason Ashura worked and Omega didn't choreography wise is that in Ashura they thought and fought like martial artists; skill was just another factor, whereas in Omega skill is like cultivation from a xianxia series where having it will make things like strength obsolete.>After all martial arts weren't designed to be safely practiced in a controlled environment.The thing is it's like lifting weights, in real life if you're lifting like a fridge or a giant toy wooden kitchen you're not going to be able to get proper form but if you're squatting - you want proper form! In the same way you want to train stuff over and over again live with sparring, and then if you have to you you'll be prepared for the real thing. But you wouldn't lift that fridge over and over again because you'd hurt your back eventually. That being said I did hear of an American Kenpo place where to get your black belt you had to pick a fight at a biker bar and win...
>>287937008I mean the latter describes a lot if not most MMA fighters, most MMA guys even the ones who started out in MMA have a few key strengths. It's a sport where you need an answer for everything but not one where you need to ask everything.
>>287937008MMA is fucked because certain "people" refuse to pay their fighters enough money to bother doing anything but easy grapples
>>287936851Yuu is indeed based
>>287936979Yeah it's true that KSKM really hams up the "those gaijins and their colossal physiques" thing but if anything it makes for more formidable opponents. As opposed to one of Baki's rare flaws, where Itagaki racial hatred against the Thai led to no nak muay ever being allowed to fight. Even the one Thai entering the MT gets flattened by Yujiro without any resistance.Everyone has their pet peeves I guess, in the end. Mine is edgy shock scenes. I didn't read Shamo for the longest time until some cool anon maybe you, recommended it, because all I've ever heard about it was "wow dude the MC kills his parents, and he goes to prison and he gets RAPED!!!! Woah so hardcore!". Don't remember if it's Rikudo or Holyland, but seeing that the very first chapter had the MC's mom blowing a drug dealer in front of him turned me off instantly.
Oh god, will this thread actually reach 600 posts?
>>287936881Tbf European fiction was like that in the early 20th century and prior. Like everyone who was European was massively overpowered when compared to browns or chinks. The sweetspot is when the wank just isn't overbearing. Doesn't have to be fair or woke btw
>>287936881Record of Ragnarok was kinda hurt by this desu
>>287937115on one hand fighter pay is indeed terrible, but on the other hand that's nothing to do with the prevalence or lack thereof of wrestling. I mean if you look at MMA recently it's mostly striking champions:UFC male champs125 Van, who is more of a striker135 Yan, mainly a striker with good TDD145 Volk, well rounded but favours striking155 Topuria, thudding boxer with good TDD170 Makhachev, well rounded but favours wrestling185 Chimaev, has favoured wrestling a lot more205 Ulberg, sloppy striker, last two (Pereira and Ank) were both strikers too255 Aspinall, well rounded but favours striking
>>287937064>In the same way you want to train stuff over and over again live with sparring, and then if you have to you you'll be prepared for the real thing.100% true. I remember being used as the "gatekeeper": dudes with no martial arts training would come to test us, and I was tasked with handing them their asses so they'd want to learn the style that made a smaller weaker dude to beat them. Once a guy with broken teeth and numerous scars came in and told me he had experience as a street fighter. He was a real cool lad, but goddamn every one of his moves was as telegraphed as a Queen's visit in the commonwealth.
>>287937113Guess you're right, it might be my K-1 nostalgia talking, but I like the idea of being faithful to one style and think it adds a certain flair to someone.
>>287937124Baki barely has any Thais though. Like two turn up maximum. In fact I'd argue the Chinese have a far worse jobbing record where there's a whole arc dedicated to them sucking ass with the exception of three guys, it's just that one of those guys is a beloved main cast mainstay and another is one of Yujiro's only strong opponents.I don't like shock stuff either but to be fair Shamo/Rikudou/Holyland are not really about the shock stuff, Shamo has it the most because it's fundamental to the plot, Rikudou has it become less and less important as the plot goes on, and Holyland is barely edgy.Manwha is far worse for shock stuff.
>>287937217>In fact I'd argue the Chinese have a far worse jobbing record where there's a whole arc dedicated to them sucking assRon vs Oliva is great because Oliva JUST. FUCKING. WINS. after tanking all of Ron's punches
>>287937179I mean that's the thing with street fighting you're not necessarily fighting the best people yourself. Kimbo Slice (RIP) went almost undefeated in street fights as just a big, tough athletic guy. Aggression, speed and power will crumple people.
>>287937255IIRC happened to Ron *again* in the biker gang leader spinoff manga
>>287937217>Baki barely has any Thais though. Like two turn up maximum.That's what I was talking about. Muay Thai is one of the go-to styles everybody consider among the strongest, and somehow Itagaki completely boycotted them.>In fact I'd argue the Chinese have a far worse jobbing record where there's a whole arc dedicated to them sucking ass with the exception of three guys, it's just that one of those guys is a beloved main cast mainstay and another is one of Yujiro's only strong opponents.Goddamn don't remind me of the RaiTai. It might be the only Baki I really did not enjoy. Doesn't help that I'm a sucker for KungFu wank.>I don't like shock stuff either but to be fair Shamo/Rikudou/Holyland are not really about the shock stuff, Shamo has it the most because it's fundamental to the plot, Rikudou has it become less and less important as the plot goes on, and Holyland is barely edgy.I'll give those last two another try, I admit I tend to be a softie with these things and take them a bit too seriously.>Manwha is far worse for shock stuff.I believe you. Only one I've tried was titled "Knuckle Girl" and translations suddenly stopped.
