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The God of the Underworld vs The Monster
Dumping
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Uh sure, I guess.
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>>287939325
Feels basic as fuck so far
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I see that "OP" has not "scaled the wall" yet
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>>287939241
Karla gets cuter every time I see her. She’s the only objective upgrade from Ashura.
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>>287939927
OP isn't on "par" with "him"....
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>>287939256
>Eddie’s back
I guess that’s one way to handwave the fact that they look identical now.
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>>287939325
Fine, I’ll do it.
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>>287941025
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>>287941112
fin
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Hassad soon.
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>>287941133
Fucking finally. Thank you, anon.
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i "came"
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>>287940991
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>>287941096
Gilbert was literally holding his hand, this is some bullshit.
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>>287941178
absolute patootie
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Why is the art so shit this chapter especially after a break? Daro isnt scaling the wall
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>>287941025
>barely won
And that was with Edward being too merciful for his own good.
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>Baki get a crossover with McDonald where they simp for Masako Nozawa
>Kengan get this
What a shame.
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>>287941204
like he say, too weak
its like toddler trying to hold adult hand down
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>chapter is so shit that OP gave up dumping it halfway and someone else had to pick up the slack
lol
lmao

>>287941346
Pic related.
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>>287939229
>>287939241
>>287941112
The Mainland Wu and Kure Clan members aren't providing a single piece of information we didn't already know.
They're standing so stiffly in those pages too. Come the fuck on.
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>>287941571
This state of the Kenganverse is grim jesus
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>>287939217
"I" have "arrived"
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One of the worst chapters yet
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>>287939217
something about the scaling and the thick art is so offputting to me...

thanks for dumping op
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>>287941937
Wait until next one where Julius gets defeated. The butthurt is gonna be fun
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>>287941133
Honestly if Julius just pulls a Raian and rips Gilbert in half next chapter my enjoyment of this manga will go up several points.
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>>287941096
>>287941112
Who's the nutrients now?
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>>287942104
Not a single person has a single Julius Coin in this thread
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>>287942368
Did you miss the previous one?
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>>287941937
You can say that about most of Omega's chapters to have come out in the past 3 or so years.
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>>287942181
but he's the last antagonist left. all that's left are dear friends shen and the lovely luohan.
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>>287942561
Aren't there like four or five more masked members of the worm to go?
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>>287942181
Please no, Sandro will make the dying Gilbert use one last secret technique that makes Edward's soul possess Julius for the rest of the manga
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>>287942602
yeah but we all know how that's gonna go.
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>>287939229
It's genuinely getting more AI generated by the week. Like perceptibly, you can see the percentage of AI vs non AI creeping upward just a little each time.
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>>287942078
The proportions for the strongmen suck now.
Toa for example was almost as wide as he was tall, now he's just built like any other of the larger fighters.
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>>287941571
>read the K:A storytime extras
>read this
Make it stop
Just kill it already
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>>287942783
Make it slop? Sure!
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these threads are fucking DEAD, jesus christ
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>>287941204
Daro's "assistant" can't be expected to keep things like that straight between panels, please understand.
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>>287942802
People just don't care that much anymore. With Luohan he was fucking hilarious and amazing and brought joy to so many. But this arc is just kinda boring and isn't even bad in a good way.
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>>287942181
>Julius goes in for the kill
>Gilbert: You got too cocky muscle man...
>Julius: !
>Gilbert: HUISHENG ACTIVATE!
>Edward's soul flies out of Gilbert and into Julius
>Wu Xing: So he's reached "that level"...
>Gilberlius: Didn't you hear me? You're all "Nutrients"....
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>>287942368
I have a single Koga Coin but I don't know what I should do with it. I hope Koga will make me a fortune from it somehow...
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>>287942837
I will give you 100 to 1 odds Koga literally does not have a single fight for the rest of the series.
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>>287942802
We've descended into the most boring, banal kind of slop possible. There's no potential for any excitement, no twists, because nobody is invested in any plot point or character anymore because we know it's all pointless. The only one who could perhaps cause some excitement, is Lu*han.
There can never be another tragedy. Nobody gives a fuck. The villains are utterly pathetic, nobody would be surprised if Julius killed Gilbert next chapter, nor would anybody care because Gilbert is so laughably lame.
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>>287942181
that would be cool, so it wont happen.
heres what will actually happen
>Eddy goes 100% Removal
>beats the shit out of Julius
>Julies deus ex flashback power-up, showing he actually trained with Kuroki
>"i scaled the wall"
>Julius gains the upper hand
>Eddy reveals his trump card
>"Removal:....200%!!!!!"
>wins
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>>287939241
>He has the biggest bust of the 3
Wu’s win again
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>>287939229
....am I supposed to bethe audience?
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>>287942861
>then explodes or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHVauqlIBy0
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>>287941096
>>287941112
Jesus
Imagine Eddie struggling against Shitlius
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>>287942876
Eddie was simply too strong
Just like the Agito tier Lu Tian centipede fist
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>>287942949
I gave up on Omega this chapter
>why are you still here?
......I don't know.
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>>287941025
Why? There was no reason to make "us" relive the "Tragedy".
I'm convinced Sandro shits on Daro's drafts out of spite. There are too many instances of Daro making a good draft only for Sandro to "correct" it and make it shit.
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>>287942181
>"RAAAAIIIIAAAAAAANNNNNN!!!!!"
>"Where are youuuuuu!!!"
>"I'm getting so tired from fighting all these other guys come here or I'm going to diiiiiiieeeEEEEEE!!!!"
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>>287943016
>next panel
>one of the mystery niggas removes his hood, revealing Asspullius "Tsar of the Abyss" Wu, Eddie's grandson and another "Him"
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>>287942181
That would be so fucking funny it could never happen.
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>>287943070
>whoever said that the numbered Worm members were supposed to be subordinates
....well the manga excplicitly stated that earlier BUT
Just pull a Kubo Tite and make them the real real leaders.
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>>287943103
nobody expected driving a "Wedge" into Worm itself
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>what Dodo and Chopstick Johnny should be
Luohan and Niko
>what Dodo and Chopstick Johnny will be
Some shitty Fei clones that immediately gets dispatched by Kenganvengers, likely Waka and Lolong
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>>287941397
>its like toddler trying to hold adult hand down
Except they literally JUST introduced that Gilbert could cancel Gott Totter by holding the hand.
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>>287942802
I can't emphasise enough that NOTHING happened this chapter. Gilbert smacked Julius around a bit then Julius smacked him back and called him a weakling. This whole "exchange" could have happened offscreen.
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>>287943308
It's a fighting manga, good fight choreography is enough to sustain a chapter even if nothing happens. Same as ippo.
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>>287942802
The last thread reached 600 posts and then this was made hours after. Of course it's dead.
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>>287942442
Those guys are broke, all Juliusfags are broke from wasting their coins on him
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>>287942994
Did you see the draft for that page?
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>>287942802
In addition to the other answers I have to add on that this chapter feels like it's completely AI. Like this page >>287941089 is definitely AI. You can feel the apathy from Daro too.
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Sandros concern with upsetting an existing fan by having Gilbert nosell an old cast member is leading to chapters where fucking Julius gets a showing against someone who previously allegedly was going 3v1 against Kures
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>>287943319
>good fight choreography is enough to sustain a chapter even if nothing happens
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>>287943505
I got the same impression. The first 3 pages seem completely AI. So does page 5, maybe even page 6.
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>>287941386
>What a shame.
You could even call it a...tragedy.
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lol!
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Is murobochi "evil"?
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>>287943319
Is the good fight choreography in the room with us right now?
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>>287943934
Sandro trying to once again sell to us the idea that this is Edward in any sense, be it power, personality, or anything is so fucking hilarious when you also include shit like this, even putting the pathetic showing entirely aside.
When did Edward ever call people fucking "nutrients" as banter? It blatantly is not Edward, and no amount of cope or Sandro trying to force it with peanut gallery commentary will ever make people believe so. Especially when EVEN THE SANDRO NPCS can't make up their mind, the Arab Wu flat out called him charismaless compared to Eddie.
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>>287944133
>that mistake
HE'S A FUCKING SERIAL KILLER
HIS BODY COUNT IS IN THE THREE DIGITS
WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE
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>>287943934
Took me a day to realize who he reminded me of
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>>287944161
Here's what Sandro should have done
>Kazuo is stressing for a full Roster because retarded Kengan politics means a ton of people aren't willing to loan their fighters for the KvP tournament
>Seki just told you that he nor Haruo are entering because of some bullshit that doesn't mean shit
>Rino isn't willing to play politics for Rei's sake, not that she knows where he even is exactly and apparently she doesn't have other Fighters to begin with wtf
>Up_Shit_Creek.png
>Hiyama approaches you
>Say's she is aware of your issue and is willing to loan Akoya
>BUT only if Kazuo overlooks and wipes Akoya's murder attempts off the record for a clean slate
>Kazuo in a bind gives in and has to hope that Akoya doesn't chimp out
Way better than Kazuo seeing Akoya make an attempt on Ryuki and decide right afterwards that he's definitely going to recruit Akoya later
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>>287944159
>>287944193
People have said it before, but it's another example of a Sandro concept that would have been received far better with just minor tweaks. If Gilbert was just Edward's son and played straight as a chuuni edgelord obsessed with epithets and trying to sound cool as his dad by dropping lines like "NOTHIN PERSONNEL... NUTRIENTS...", he'd be some level of fun in the same vein as Falcon.
Ironically, it completely fails at what Sandro intended(postmortem Edward humiliation ritual) because instead of people seeing this and going "LOL Eddie was so overrated and lame, he's such a loser!", Sandro made him so divorced from Eddie as a character that it's genuinely impossible to see this thing as a continuation of his character. Sandro can scream that he's literally Edward with magic improved genetics folded 1000 times with 200% Guihun, but nobody will actually buy that because of how presentation in Kengan completely died in the arcs after Edward himself did.
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>>287939296
What is going on with julis' right foot? Is it coming out of his shoe?
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>>287944193
I'm certain there was an edit of that
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>>287943135
He could minimize the damage by catching his punch straight up. Gilbert holding his arms does nothing cause Julius can just make his arm muscles spin. Gott Totter's primary function is repelling anything in its way
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>>287943934
Doesn't even look like Daro's artstyle man, literally just left the AI shart untouched.
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>>287943934
G(PT), maybe use "filthy peasant" next, it sounds a little better than this...
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>>287943934
Edward was all vain aura even when he got wrecked in the end, what the fuck went wrong with this clone? he's just been seething for the last few years
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>>287944133
The way Sandro picks on a select few of his Kenganvenger "legends" like Gozo is so weird. He never gets ANYTHING after Ashura, he lost offscreen to Kokuro, lost this, sat out the tournament, and didn't even get to participate in the berserker bowl, letalone this fortnite match. Even the fucking supernovas got in over him, even people like Hong or the pankration jobber.
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>>287942949
This is a level of spite that was only surpassed by shit like Xia Ji and Yumigahama's cartel executions, and Luohan and Tiger Niko's everything.
You really have to wonder how the town that views Lu Tian as a hero is doing. Or for that matter, Lu Tian's fans who all saw him transform into a different guy entirely during his fight with Agito. The martial artist they idolised, rotting away in sewer water.
All villains are props for Kenganvengers to utilise.
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>>287944828
I think Sandro doesn't bother with Gozo anymore because Sandro has a better "Strong Man" in Julius to use as jobber food for the more important characters
Gozo is an "Easy Wank Jobber". He doesn't "fight" people, he shows up in other peoples flashbacks to lose so the other guy looks strong without having to waste time showing how that fight went down. Quick and easy, it "works" because we as the reader already know Gozo's backstory and feats so if anyone was said to have beaten him then that means that other guy must be strong
Julius is there to be a "Feat". He's the big giant walking steroid tumor creature that eclipses most other Fighters. It's important to see him fight so that when he eventually eats my shit and loses it looks "impressive" to the readers because just look at how big and strong this walking Heart Attack is. When he loses the other guy, like Waka and Agito, can add his defeat to their list of feats they accomplished
They're both jobbers who serve the same purpose but are used in different ways
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>>287944996
For as bad Wakatsuki has had it, at least he's not either of those fucks.
Still humiliating that Himuro tanked a Blast Core-amped full-body tackle, but oh well.
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>>287944133
He jaywalked once or something.
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Fell asleep
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>>287941571
I fell asleep. Im sorry.
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>>287941096
Is that like being tossed in a wood chipper?
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>>287944553
It's his duel disk
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>>287939325
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>>287945221
>>287945207

kekkk
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>>287945017
Sandro has absolutely no sense of scale anymore. In his psychotic obsession with mutually jerking off all Kengan aligned characters as evenly as he can, he winds up making everybody look weaker. We're supposed to believe everybody has been wall scaling and thinning the razor for like five years now since Ashura, and yet they don't actually FEEL stronger since nothing has weight or impact. Of course, this is partially Daro's fault for utterly checking out on the art front which hurts presentation, but even then, there's no excuse for Sandro since he ultimately calls the shots on the direction and choreo.
Waka vs Himuro is the culmination of it all. Himuro barely being knocked back by blast core tackles, managing to actually hurt Waka with a strike in retaliation with handwave nonsense of using the force against him(which somehow doesn't shatter his own wrist) when even Ironbreakers from Ohma did almost nothing to him. Nothing about it made Himuro look respectable, any reader with two brain cells to rub together is going to just think that Waka was horribly nerfed.
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>>287945565
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>>287945565
Sandro took this from us
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>>287944161
Nothing in the KA rules states that you can't enter if you are a killer.
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>>287944828
Calm down with the spoilers!
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>>287945165
I’ve heard enough. Send him to Luohan
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>be me, 10,000 year old chinese cultivator
>come home one day from a hard night out drinking at the grave of my friend long yi(it's such a tragedy what happened to him, through no fault of my own)
>my twink Xia(Sr) wife is there waiting for me in a naked apron, all is well and good as it should be
>suddenly out of the corner of my eye, I see IT
>that fucking disgusting piece of shit aberrant worthless little demon
>fight down my bloodlust, Xia says that he'll provide "data" if we leave him alive at least
>he smiles at me, the little shitweasel, trying to make me let down my guard as usual as he comes up to try and give me a hug
>backhand him across the room as usual, but unfortunately he's gotten used to it and gets up quickly
>smiles at me again through bloody broken glasses
>"Father... I-I was thinking of how everyone here seems to have, um... a name..."
>I stare at him coldly
>"A-and well... I was thinking mine could be, um... L-Luohan... I thought about it for a while and as your clone, I thought it was fitting..."
>I see red
>this waste of dna, this disgrace, this insult to my very existence
>now thinks he deserves A NAME OF HIS OWN, AS IF HE'S SOME KIND OF PERSON?
>the stupid little shit just stands there smiling at me as I advance on him, he's too pathetic and weak to even sense my bloodlust
>beat him for the next hour straight until Xia distracts me with another beer
>leave him weeping in a pool of urine and blood, that'll settle this name nonsense
>go fishing in the mountains for the next five years
>when I come back down from the mountain, it fucking stuck, everyone else is calling it Luohan now
>I fucking hate Luohan so goddamn much
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>>287946177
>immediately gets offered principles VR by Luohan and becomes an S tier
This is too cruel, that bastard is going to manipulate him into being a better and stronger version of himself. Please have mercy and just kill him through 20 hours of torture
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>>287941133
I'm reminded that back in asura, julius took multiple straight punches from waka at full power and still wouldn't flinched, his muscle is just too thick, and even blast core couldn't knock him down
I do hope julius get some spotlight, but sadly I don't think gil will lose, he still has destined match with raian
of course if sandro subverted my expectation and have gil lose at this point I'll give him a nod
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>>287946308
Might as well be canon since it's been like 100 chapters since Luohan debuted and we still haven't seen him do anything remotely evil
>literally saved Ohma and Ryuki from being Shen's puppets
>tries talking to Ohma and Ryuki and making them understand his POV without being condescending (doesn't threaten or blackmail them)
>is nice towards his bottomhusband Housecat Niko
>literally didn't want to fight with the Connector clones
>only fought back after they attacked him first even though he tried talking them out of it
>asks nicely for the VR
>lets Kitten Niko have a go at it first despite being something he wanted all this time
>thoughtfully bought sugar sticks even though he didn't have to because he cares that much for his friend (who immediately thought about betraying him a whole page later)
>is nice to the motel owner
>chooses to fight somewhere else as to not destroy the motel
Luohan is actually a pretty kino character. A genuine good guy who plays the part of the villain because he understands that's his role in the story, and he still remains positive even when the whole world is literally against his very existence.
You can tell it's accidental too because Sandro tries SO HARD to make the readers see Luohan as this vile, irredeemable villain.
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>>287946526
>m reminded that back in asura, julius took multiple straight punches from waka at full power and still wouldn't flinched
Yeah, that completely destroyed Wakek's reputation. Though having Ohma tank a liver crescent kick was even worse, and cemented Waka as the biggest fraud.
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>>287942626
>he doesn't know Chopstick Johnny is the fifth clone of the Connector
ngmi
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>>287939217
>less than 10 posts per hour
At what point does Daro just enacts a murder suicide?
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>>287945565
Kure Knockout Fumes
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>>287946744
They gave him control of the nukes and it took him THIS LONG to POLITELY ASK for the Shen wikipedia pages to enhance his VR kung fu sissy hypno sessions
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you know, I have a feeling that luohan will start invading and interfering with the match after enough number of fighters have retired
JUST LIKE HAYAMI COUP IN ASURA :^)
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>>287947524
The difference is, I will be cheering for Luohan
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>>287939217
I read Ashura a couple of weeks and recently started Omega.

I'm on chapter 280 something.
Just leaving my thoughts for /a/nons in case anyone cares to read.

I had heard so many bad things about omega, i only started reading it because i mostly enjoyed Ashura.

I actually enjoyed omega at the start. It wasn't quite as good as Ashura but i liked seeing Koga improve slowly and interact with some of the previous cast.

But then Ohma was brought back out of nowhere?? Completely ruined the ending of Ashura for me, and it shifted all the attention away from Koga and Ryuki.

The whole worm and Tiger Vessel/Connector plot is too convoluted and poorly explained for me. It feels like we were teased so many things but i've never been able to connect the dots.

What was the role Fei?? Why the fuck was he set up as this Tiger Vessel thing? Which i still don't know how it relates to Shen and the 3 clones.

And in fact, what the fuck was up with Xia, Edward and Fei in general? They were teased as being so scary and important but went nowhere.
Fei died without doing much, so did Edward, and Xia became a complete joke.

Xia was kinda scary at first when he worked in the shadows and showed up at Koga's place. But after that the author decided to make him a joke by constantly failing, making ridiculous grimaces and being treated like shit by even his allies. What the fuck?

Why did Edward even show up at the tournament? Why did he feel the need to risk it? Why was he killed so fast but then woopsy he has clones actually?

And i fucking hate Shen right now. The author jerks him off so much. Shen one touch KO'ing so much of the cast doesn't make him look cool, it just makes everyone else look pathetic.

I hate how the author is simultaneously trying to make him look like a big bad scary villain, but then also trying to make look like a totally friendly "le wholesome" beer drinking dudebro who doesn't care about anything.
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>>287947655
Welcome aboard, anon.
For an answer to your questions, refer to the following image.
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>>287947655
Pretty much in line with the rest of keng/a/n's opinion.
The following stretch is gonna be really fucking bland
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>>287947655
Part 2.

Omega as a whole has less tension than Ashura.
Lolong/Rolon (?) had nothing going for him besides explaining in his head was going on in the fights and having Beardy show up out of nowhere to tell the viewer "oh yeah bro this guy is totally my equal i swear".

Similarly, i felt like having this short fight between Shen and Beardy was only done as a way of trying to build hype and to tell the viewer "hey guys, remember who the strongest character of the previous manga was??? Well here is this totally OP character not taking him seriously, btw the fight goes nowhere :3"

The initial training arc of Koga was interesting, but then the author completely sidelined him for god knows how many chapters just do a store brand tournament and bring back old characters. Koga just became much stronger during a timeskip, 0 development, just trust me bro. Way to ruin something good you started.

I'm sure there's more i could rant about but this is what comes to my mind immediately.
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>>287947683
>>287947716
I swear to god when i started this manga i thought people were just too negative or maybe they were harsh and exaggerated the difference in quality between Ashura and Omega. But nope.

And that's not to say there aren't good things. I enjoyed some fights here and there. They still managed to make some suspenseful moments. But the writing feels either lazy or ... lost? Like they aren't sure of what they're doing. In Ashura, it felt like most of the plot had been thought of in advance. Here I either get the feeling that they're making shit up as they go along (Toriyama style except not good), or their story is so convoluted that they aren't able to explain it clearly. I don't know.

Either way Ohma didn't have to be here. His story was told in Ashura, he feels so out of place here.

When he appeared and the whole direction of the manga changed, i genuinely thought that this must be an editor hijacking the story, or a lack of confidence in what they were doing at first with Koga and Ryuki. It reminds me a lot of the start of the Buu Saga where Toriyama completely dropped the whole Gohan/Videl thing and brought back Goku because fans complained.

Another minor complaint i have is the 6th fang. Another character who was set up as somewhat important, only to be trashed in one fight like he was nothing. I just don't get it.
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>>287947803
>Here I either get the feeling that they're making shit up as they go along
It's even worse than you could even think it could be.
Late in Omega, a designated moustachio'ed villain with a face like Ohma's gets punched really hard for committing an """evil act""". The problem? That scene of him actually doing the """evil thing""" only happens in a draft, and is in fact missing from the full release. Sandro King Crimson'ed that shit, unironically.
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>>287947857
Yeah I read that bit, went back in the previous chapter and was so confused by the whole thing. Thanks for explaining it to me lmao now i know what that was about.

In general I don't understand why everyone is so distrusting of the mustache man but when it comes to Shen they got sit down at a restaurant with him ... ?

The mustache man reminded me of "Guy Incognito" from the simpsons, except it's meant to be a real character in Omega ...
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>>287946308
Fucked up that Sandro thought "not giving your kids names until years later" was a cute, quirky trait for Shen to have.
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>>287947803
>Like they aren't sure of what they're doing. In Ashura, it felt like most of the plot had been thought of in advance.
It is absolutely that, alongside a lack of effort and skill to make things work.
Asura also had an advantage of a significantly more limited world. Everything revolved around the KAT after that initial setup, it was all concentrated within the tournament.
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>>287944545
I'm ashamed it took me this long to realize that the AI hand is on a barbecue grill. Every time I see this picture I'd be so laser focused on the absurdity of an AI draft hand that made it into the final publication, to the point where I missed the brilliance of having it being grilled on a barbeque.
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>>287945221
>chapter is so shit and boring that the anon who wanted to dump it fell asleep halfway through
Jesus
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>>287943319
>good choreography
>even ippo
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The worst part about this nightmare is that we have no idea when it's going to end. It could end 50 chapters from now, 100 chapters from now, or even another 300+ chapters from now. The pacing is so unbelievably dogshit that we can't tell how close or far away we are from the finish line.
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>>287944133
>That Akoya chapter
I thought I was re-reading Toriko!
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>>287948353
I HATE Toriko!
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>>287948353
Livebearer turning out to be extremely based was unexpected. Shame his scenes in the anime are cursed.
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>>287948455
I never watched the anime, so I'm guessing I dodged a bullet.
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>>287944828
Sandro's hierachy is Kenganvengers + Shen >>>> Kenganvengers who lost round 1 KAT > Shit > Purgatory > Irrelevant jobbers > Worm > Luohan
Notice how all the ones who lost round 1 KAT like Gozo, Chiba, Himuro, Kaneda, Adam, etc, kept getting glazed but also never won anything of value since then.
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>>287948563
But remember; "no killing!"
This is an underground illegal organization centered around solving financial quandaries via deathmatch brawls between homicidal criminals and psychotic freakish assassins...

...NOT a sinful retreat!!! The Kengan group and its friends have STANDARDS!!!
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>>287948415
I do like Livebearer though. But I hated how Coco and Sunny were treated and how rushed the ending was! I HATE Toriko!
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>>287948301
>no escape
>back against the ropes
>oh no / hype / tension
>hears his coach say "just walk away, dude"
>instantly escapes
I didn't know Sandrovich wrote Hajime no Ippo, too.
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>>287940991
It helps that she's not constantly running around screaming for Ohma to impregnate her
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>>287941112
Every time I think Sandwich can’t possibly disrespect his antagonists more than he already has, he does something like this.
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>>287941571
God man I have nothing but contempt for Sandro and Daro now. Imagine getting to where they got, having TWO successful manga, an anime, games (even if they're shovelware) merch and even a fucking collab with Street Fighter and you have no love or respect for the work and audience that got you there.
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>>287941571
You know what? Daro is a dad to a 10 year old (?) and is a family man. I'll cut him some slack gor not wasting extra energy in slop, but I hope he's using that energy to take care of his family
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>>287944159
>he Arab Wu flat out called him charismaless compared to Eddie.
It's nuts how much "rizz" the actual Edward had compared to that failson Gilbert. Dude was a cross between Albert Wesker, The Kingpin and the entire Yakuza/Like a Dragon series this wonderful smug bastard who enjoyed the evil he committed, dude was never not having a good time. Imagine making a nearly ten out of ten villain and then just wasting him in some bullshit then replacing him with his faggot clone/son
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>>287945565
Clip your fucking nails girl
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>>287945583
Probably did us a favor, could you, in good conscience, let Daro use AI for that
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>>287948884
I wonder if Daro goes through life thinking about Sandroisms like us. Does he whisper "you were awesome" to his son on his first day at school?
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>>287948891
I think by itself the idea of a guy trying to imitate his "the coolest guy around" father and failing miserably at that would pretty entertaining if not for everything else surrounding that setup
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>>287946744
The silliest thing is Sandro could have set him up as an extremely dangerous psychopath. Have Muteba or Rama chime in that Luohan was personally behind one of those ethnic genocides, but there was no concrete enough proof because he use some rebel group as a scapegoat.
>I know I have killed hundreds of people but it was for a job and a mission
>Luohan once tried to kill a whole NATION, every single person in it
>just to see if he can do it
>and it almost worked
>you remember Pol Pot?
>he was a mere puppet of the dastardly Luo Han
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>>287948965
>Does he whisper "you were awesome" to his son on his first day at school?
>Dad, dad check my art homework
>You've got it all wrong
>You're still "green"
>"You'll never climb "the wall" at this rate
>MOOOOOOOOM HES' DOING IT AGAIN
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>>287948301
Sendo was slackin
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>>287948301
>Guy manages to move out of the way
>The referee too
Was he doing a 4 second wind up punch?
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>>287948995
It would work if Gilbert actually TIRED to imitate him. Dude still dresses like a fucking gopnik while acting like some preppy fuck about to run to daddy to get rid of a speeding ticket. He's a failson in a boring way not an entertaining way. Like have him do all the Edward stuff but make it lame
>Tiger print sweat suit
>Oakley sunglasses
>Vape instead of cigar
>Tries to act like a smug bastard but just ends up Sepheroth posting
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>>287949094
The page was dishonestly spliced to make it seem more retarded than it was
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>>287949156
I just know that bastard is the one behind this.
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>>287948626
>underground murder circus run by billionaires and cartel psychos
>“please remember our core value of NO KILLING ”

It’s still the funniest tonal whiplash in the entire series. You have dudes whose résumés include “mercenary,” “human trafficker,” and “attempted ethnic cleansing,” but the second someone dies in the ring suddenly everyone clutches their pearls like grandpa brought a hooker to Christmas dinner.

Kengan execs will literally bankroll a death bout to settle a hostile takeover but draw the line at “that was slightly too fatal.” Bro what did you THINK was going to happen when you put two contract killers in a cage and told them winner gets a multinational corporation.

STANDARDS, anon.
Very evil. Very illegal. Very principled.
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Evil is on the move
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>>287949173
I really hate how this place is full of autuists who laser focus on some narrative aspect they don't like then proceed to make it all of our problems every chance they get
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>>287949254
NTA but it IS silly much like other stories that try to be rough and edgy but then suddenly the characters don't kill or do anything actually bad.
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>>287949282
Maybe but going into every Kengan (and other series) threads to post the same fucking complaint over and over is pretty goddamn pathetic
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>>287949254
Even autistic children have a very clear cut understanding of right and wrong.
In fact autists often can't even internalise logical inconsistencies normies gaslight them into believing like:

go to another country as a soldier and kill several people = not murderer
kill several people in your own country = murderer

Autists are literally too righteous to not see through bullshit like that.
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>>287948891
Let's assume Eddie killed Raian. Or just simply escaped the arena. How exactly was the world going to change within the next 24 hours?
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>>287949254
This is overnarrativising it. People will naturally share their thoughts on a subject on a discussion forum. What appears to be the same thing posted over and over again is really just different people unintentionally coming to a consensus on a thing, because people also don't bother sifting through the archives to see if it's already been said.
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>>287949366
For starters, it was clear that the Wus were largely united under Edward and instead of having some stupid civil war, they could've gone ahead and done """something""". But much like the Worm, they don't seem to do much.
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I really hate how this place is full of autists who laser focus on some irrelevant female character they suddenly fell in love with then proceed to make it all of our problem every chance they get, even when the character doesn't do anything.
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so what happened to Hayami Masaki huishenging himself into Meguro? was there even a followuo after he brutalized that bodyguard?
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>>287947655
>those questions
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>>287949758
Well, he's in fortnite so maybe you'll get a followup now
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>>287949254
Should he laser focus on the overwhelming threat the WORM's goals have on planet Earth, just like Sandrovich writes? Nippon is in serious danger, right now.
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>>287949846
It's okay. Nogi is the new chairman so things are definitely
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>>287949846
>Uhh actually all our nukes have been decomissioned
>Well they don't know that, so let's just keep going and hope they don't notice
I swear to fuck this will be revisited in the future to excuse a big fight from happening
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>>287949173
>It’s still the funniest tonal whiplash in the entire series.
It's not a tonal whiplash, it's what the protags managed to accomplish through their effort in Ashura and getting Nogi in charge, who's overall a trickster but also a benevolent authority figure.
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>>287949827
He will recover
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>CC this saturday
Holy shit finally
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>>287949980
If Nicolas had the eldritch knowledge to casually toss out a hex on the level of "godlike"(causes instantaneous organ failure in those within earshot), why didn't he use any spells on Liu? Surely his mana pool had enough time to recover somewhat between these fights.
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>>287950061
Superior chinese deflection techniques makes it so that it won't work on him. The Worm told him about it.
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>>287949408
Am I over analyzing or are you just apathetic. This dude has been posting the same shit every day in every thread for the last week. There's a point where it goes from having an issue with narrative consistency to just smearing shit all over the walls because he can't deal
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>>287950061
Feng shui is above kengan sorcery
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>>287949758
I don't think that was the intention. He just wanted to get rid of Hayami because Hayami is an asshole.
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>>287950022
It is ogre? Finally?
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>>287950061
As we've already seen in the Nitoku fight Liu passively heals himself to full and dispels any negative effect after a flashback. He can only lose if he runs out of backstory.
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>>287950061
Nicolas was talking in french and Liu in chinese throughout the entire fight, they did not understand each other

the dialogue making sense was an accident
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>>287950748
>the dialogue making sense was an accident
That's omega in general
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>>287945565
The wife of Ohma
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>>287949254
The complaint about Kengan putting in a No-Kill rule only makes sense if you weren't reading the manga with the rest of us
Nogi was performing a takeover of Kengan to repay Kazuo's bloodline for getting one of his ancestors killed in a Death Match and despite Kazuo letting Ohma continue fighting into an early grave it's made very clear he didn't really want that. It's not a surprise they implemented a No-Kill Rule, it's there to prevent another Ohma-Incident I mean he lived but yeah
>inb4 some shit about Contract Killers and Mercenaries
The average Kengan Fighter is some basic Street Fighter who MAYBE has some Martial Arts practice. The Killers you see in KAT were mostly Outsiders like Raian, Muteba and Kuroki and Akoya was made out to be a troubling outlier even among Kengan. Inaba's CEO saw him more as a friend than something to be used to kill
This sort of behavior is all over Asura, most people aren't trying to kill each other, Muteba suggest Meguro give up before killing him and idk went easy on Seki I guess and Kuroki negs on avenging his friend so Setsuna gets to walk off after their fight. I don't think Agito even tries to kill his opponents, that's just some side-effect of his brutal nature as a fighter
Razors Edge and Rakshasa Palm are very selective about how dangerous they are and more often than not people walk that shit off
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>>287949254
I hardly even want to reply to their posts no matter how much they irk me. I just hope that they will give up yelling at clouds. But they never will even if starved of (you)s, it's utterly deranged.
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>>287951075
>idk went easy on Seki
He didn't go easy but he held back on the heart stab kill.
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>>287949980
>mixing the compliment jinx with you've got it all wrong but self-targeted
Was Nicholas Kuroki-level at narrative martial arts?
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>>287950061
4000 years literally can only lose to the protagonist
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>>287951075
>more often than not people walk that shit off
Even the dude who got his head twisted at a 180 angle by Setsuna survived.
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>>287941025
>We barely won
Ahem
"You never stood a chance"
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>>287951075
>Razors Edge and Rakshasa Palm are very selective about how dangerous they are and more often than not people walk that shit off
Because they're narratively made to be. Reminder that Razor's Edge can outright cut steel beams but suddenly gets immediately nerfed to near uselessness.
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>>287951075
Fighters weren't actively killing each other but they were fine with death inside of the ring. It's the reason why they even entered in the first place since the KA allows them to fight to the limit. The no-kill rule is unnecessary since it handicaps them, which should have resulted in many of them leaving but none of it happened. Plus the ambuiguity of the actual wording is stupid.
You are free to come up with any interpretations to justify it in-universe. But it was an addition purely made to soften the image of Kengan, which is retarded since this is a grey morality setting. Plus it lead to no reprecussion towards Nogi and his new system, which is its own can of worms.
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>>287951075
I'm glad reading comprehension isn't completely dead
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>>287951260
steel beams are distant cousins of knives (both are metal), so their powerlevel is low in kenganverse
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>>287951170
Dude probably felt so goddamn limber after that
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>>287947655
>>287947737
Are you secretly the anon that has never read Omega at all and pretends to have done so just by using the "data" he has cleansed from these threads?
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>>287947803
>i genuinely thought that this must be an editor hijacking the story, or a lack of confidence in what they were doing at first with Koga and Ryuki. It reminds me a lot of the start of the Buu Saga where Toriyama completely dropped the whole Gohan/Videl thing and brought back Goku because fans complained.
If anything, it's the other way around. The editor kept the reins in, and then that stopped. Some people assume it's because they could no longer meet in person due to covid or something.
It also seems sensible that the slow burn of Koga and Ryuki was not going down well with the base readership (The manga apparently has a huge SEA fanbase, which is why Gaolang won a popularity poll and gets a lot of attention?) because it's not bigger, greater fights, so they hated these two and really wanted someone cool like Ohma back.

So in the most cynical way possible, they pulled Ohma back out of their asses, shitting on the great ending of Ashura and here we are.
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>>287951330
>The no-kill rule is unnecessary
All of KAT is about how it is very much necessary. Just look at the shit Raian was doing.
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>>287946903
Plain Doll my beloved

We actually already had a thread yesterday that reached bump limit pretty quickly
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>>287947803
>where Toriyama completely dropped the whole Gohan/Videl thing and brought back Goku because fans complained.
That didn't happen at all.
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>>287951661
It was operating fine for centuries before it. None of the members or fighters had a problem with it.
>Raian
If you're talking about Mokichi that was an error on behalf of the referee.
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>>287951732
>None of the members or fighters had a problem with it.
We literally see people suffering due to Kengan bullshit throughout all of Asura.
>If you're talking about Mokichi that was an error on behalf of the referee.
If that was the case, both Raian and the referee would have been penalized, they weren't.
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>>287951330
Didn't they go over the rule not applying to ring deaths a couple of dumped (daily) chapters ago? That it only matters if they are sent in injured and die or if they are killed after the match is called? The first rule has an obvious historical reason to it given Nogi's ancestor and the second is plain logic. This only fucks over a potential KAT but I'd assume those rules are waived then.
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>>287951776
>We literally see people suffering due to Kengan bullshit throughout all of Asura.
Like what? Match injuries? The fighters were fine with it.
>If that was the case, both Raian and the referee would have been penalized, they weren't.
I was going to reply that it was in the bound of the rules but yes. It was allowed.
>>287951781
Which is why I said that the wording is dumb. How can you prove intent of killing?
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>>287951873
>Like what? Match injuries? The fighters were fine with it.
Injuries aren't the same as dying. CEOs were CLEARLY worried about their fighters most of the time.
Inaba's CEO was constantly beating himself up for making him fight in Death Matches and using him as an assassin, you REALLY think he'd just have been fine if Inaba got killed or crippled?
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>>287951873
>How can you prove intent of killing?
Given how much much Kengan fighters can walk off, you REALLY have to be trying to kill one, just look at Mokichi and even HE survived.
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>>287951873
>Which is why I said that the wording is dumb. How can you prove intent of killing?
If the fighter was visibly unable to continue fighting but the other guy is still wailing on their head, so like that one fight that was dumped yesterday
This isn't really that hard to figure out, it's like watching two bums fight on the street. One of them falls head first on the pavement, he's done but the other bum starts kicking him. This is usually when other people finally step in to stop it because if it's continued someone's going to get a murder charge
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>>287951873
They can't, that's why they allow ring deaths. What are we even talking about I think I missed something?
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>>287951996
>What are we even talking about I think I missed something?
You missed multiple arcs. Kengan's got an active no-kill rule since KvP at least.
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>>287952031
They seriously updated the rule since KvP to enforce no death AT ALL?
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>>287951944
>Injuries aren't the same as dying
So how exactly they were getting suffering? It seems that injuries was within expected parameters.
>Inaba's CEO
They were childhood friends. Most CEOs aren't. Rihito was literally fired after one loss
>>287951961
Which is why I said they were doing fine without it
>>287951996
>What are we even talking about I think I missed something?
That the no-kill rule has been added solely to whitewash KA's image with all of the moral grandstanding that statement entails. But anons seem to think the argument is that it's a plot hole or something of the sort.
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>>287952099
>So how exactly they were getting suffering?
English, please.
>They were childhood friends
And?
>Most CEOs aren't.
They still worry for their fighters
>Rihito
You mean the obvious bad guy CEO that got humiliated for it?
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>>287952099
>Which is why I said they were doing fine without it
And we see they weren't.
>That the no-kill rule has been added solely to whitewash KA's image with all of the moral grandstanding that statement entails.
Except it was to give a payoff to what the protags did in Asura. Kengan staying the same shithole after the good guys won would have been garbage.
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>>287952084
>to enforce no death AT ALL?
I mean, no more than any other fighting org.
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Why the fuck is there someone making up retarded shit to bitch on Kengan for? We have a million other legitimate examples of stupid nonsense to complain about. Kengan enforcing a No-Kill rule after explaining what Nogi's deal was and the relationship between Kazuo and Ohma which was effectively Father and Son by the end of it is not one of them
Shut the fuck up already Luohan
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>>287952184
>English, please.
So how exactly they were suffering?
>And?
A childhood friend will obviously care about his friend
>They still worry for their fighters
Oh yeah. Shark cared a lot about Muteba
>You mean the obvious bad guy CEO that got humiliated for it?
And?
>>287952234
>And we see they weren't.
They survived for 300 years and they have only gotten bigger. They were doing fine.
>Except it was to give a payoff to what the protags did in Asura. Kengan staying the same shithole after the good guys won would have been garbage
And I can bring up the myriad of issues such as the lack of pushback from other members and the lack of actual enforcement. But again, that is not the criticism. The criticism was always about the moral hypocrisy, that was always the complaint.
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>>287951732
I'm sure they'll reiterate the rules for everyone next match.
Maybe change the rules, too. You know, for funsies. This is the secret, ancient, respected Kengan, after all.
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>>287952363
>So how exactly they were suffering?
Read Asura.
>A childhood friend will obviously care about his friend
So he did care.
>Oh yeah. Shark cared a lot about Muteba
Notice the word 'most' exist?
>And?
Bad guys lost to the good guys so their bad guys practices go bye bye.
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>>287952260
Buy my WCW MONDAY NITE NITRO tickets, but keep it hush-hush
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>>287952363
>They were doing fine.
So fine one dude completely gamed the system from the inside out as seen in KAT with the dude with the scar completely circumventing Kengan to force people to do what he wants.
>Muh complaint
And your complaint is dumb, the point was always 'The Good Guys won so they're IMPROVING things'.
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>>287952553
>Buy my WCW MONDAY NITE NITRO tickets, but keep it hush-hush
That's literally what Purgatory is.
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I think we should calm down by talking about much less controversial and more novel topics : don't you guys think Yumihagama's treatment is a bit hypocritical?
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>>287952539
>Read Asura.
Did it. Nothing to answer there
>So he did care.
Because they're childhood friends
>Notice the word 'most' exist?
Proof?
>Bad guys lost to the good guys so their bad guys practices go bye bye.
That isn't the complaint, though
>>287952562
>So fine one dude completely gamed the system from the inside out as seen in KAT with the dude with the scar completely circumventing Kengan to force people to do what he wants
And he got stopped in hours. so yeah it seems to work fine
>And your complaint is dumb, the point was always 'The Good Guys won so they're IMPROVING things'.
Check the reply chain. The complaint was about the moral hypocrisy.
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>>287952585
>50000 steel chairs raining down onto the purgatory ring when Lolong calls for it while fighting Yumigahama
Kino
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>>287952623
>Did it. Nothing to answer there
Do it with your eyes open.
>Because they're childhood friends
So he did care and I'm right, thanks for confirming it.
>proof
The fact I just used it.
>This isn't my whining
Yes, it's the argument that kneecap your whining.
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>>287952623
>And he got stopped in hours.
By the good guys who won and changed things BTW. After years of doing that under the old system.
>moral hypocrisy
Improvement isn't hypocrisy. You have autism.
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>>287952553
>>287952585
But I already bought my Lolong and Toa figs...
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>>287952649
>Do it with your eyes open
Apply your advice to yourself first
>So he did care and I'm right, thanks for confirming it.
Yeah, childhood friends will care about each other. CEOs don't
>The fact I just used it.
The proof that most CEOs care, you illiterate
>Making up things I never said
Is that extent of your arguing ability?
>>287952666
>By the good guys who won and changed things BTW. After years of doing that under the old system.
Won under the system that survived without issues. Seems the old system was doing just great.
>Improvement isn't hypocrisy. You have autism.
Never said it wasn't. You lack literacy.
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>>287941133

You know, while I fully expect julius to lose, Sandro would do some bullshit to subvert expectations to have Gilbert lose horribly and then raian shows up to kill him.
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>>287952759
>No u
Easy win, better luck next time.
>You are right but my non-defined fanfic characters disagree!
Cope
>Stop making fun of me for writing and arguing wrong
No. Read Asura, even the Ballerina's CEO was worried for him. Even fucking Akoya's CEO cares for him.
>MUH ABILITY!!!!
There is no arguing, you're just getting your face shoved into a manga you clearly didn't read.
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>>287952759
>Won under the system
No, they beat him outside the system and then took over the system and changed it.
>It was doing so great it was subverted and then was replaced, I am very smart
So it was doing bad and died, cool.
>Never said I was right
We noticed lmao.
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>>287952607
Personally I think what they did to Xia Ji was really mean.
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>>287952759
>Won under the system
His entire takeover that was defeated was completely outside the KAT.
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>>287951578
>brought back Goku because fans complained.
Exact opposite. This is just a rumour. Fans didn't complain about Goku being gone. Toriyama just felt Gohan didn't fit the protagonist role.
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>>287953675
Nobody said anything about Goku though.
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>>287953808
The post he quoted did
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>>287950061
Believe it or not, he ran out. He was doing splendidly offscreen but being onscreen had an immediate and massive draining effect on his reserve for reasons "we" have yet to identify. His pool actually sunk into mana debt, he could do nothing but hex himself as repayment until he was a cripple. Our magic theory is still lacking, we are still green, we need more "data"
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>>287951075
Metsudo shit-talking fighters' worth to Hassad was probably meant to set up a more direct "caring about fighters' lives vs fuck you, pawns" ideological conflict between him and Nogi. I think Sandro just decided to switch up Metsudo's characterization after that scene, because I can't square "FIGHTERS ARE BARELY HUMAN, ONLY WE MERCHANTS MATTER" Metsudo with the Metsudo who helped Agito regain his humanity and is friends with all the fighters.
>I don't think Agito even tries to kill his opponents, that's just some side-effect of his brutal nature as a fighter
Definitely. In all three of his wins, there's emphasis on how easily he could've killed his opponent, but held back or stopped himself from following up with a possibly lethal blow. I've always viewed him as being highly death-averse as a result of either the Gu ritual itself or Metsudo's work to heal his mind after the ritual, though I realize that's just headcanon. I doubt they'll get any focus before Omega ends, but it wouldn't surprise me to learn Agito bitterly regrets the deaths he caused in matches, and possibly viewed himself as weak for not being able to defeat them nonlethally
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>>287951390
He "would have" had Hassad not gone for that salty runback
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>>287954194
>because I can't square "FIGHTERS ARE BARELY HUMAN, ONLY WE MERCHANTS MATTER" Metsudo with the Metsudo who helped Agito regain his humanity and is friends with all the fighters.
I think Metsudo was just fucking around and being a hardass for the sake of making a point AND fool Hayami while he secretly recruited Hassad for a secret mission.
At least that seem to be the intent from the moment Hassad shows back up onward.
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>>287944715
Except he not only caught and stopped Gott Totter last time, but made it look effortless. If all it did was minimize damage, it basically minimized as close to 0 as possible.
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>>287939217
SO "THE MONSTER" IS ISSUING A CHALLENGE TO "THE GOD OF THE UNDERWORLD"?!
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>>287941096
>>287941112
>DIVINE SANDSTORM
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>>287941096
>standing gott totter
>perfect parry, completely nullified
>gott totter from under mount
>uwah critical hit, shirt explodes
Just a daily reminder this is clown shit.
>inb4 but he couldn't dodge it this time
He didn't dodge it last time, he caught it. And strikes from mount are going to be less powerful than strikes while pinned down.
This comic has really devolved into each fighter taking turns being a punching bag for no reason just forgetting how to fight.
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>>287954801
>he caught it. And strikes from mount are going to be less powerful than strikes while pinned down.
Don't forget he was still holding the fist he caught.
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>>287954354
Stop brainstorming watsonian explanations for very clear very obvious retcons, it really makes you look like an autistic fanboy. We know sandro fell in love with Metsudo sometime during the KAT, and then made him an all-knowing benevolent deity. Same goes, although less egregiously, for defending the defanging of the KA. Even if it makes sense for Nogi to decide it, it's still a bad narrative choice that actively lowered fight stakes, and was a step in the way to retconning the KA into just another "underground fight promotion".
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>>287952912
it was erotic so its forgiven as long as they include at least one more scene of him crying before the manga is over
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>>287954354
>>287955041
I'll chime in that Hassad wasn't even working for Metsudo, he was hired by Nogi.
Metsudo had no reason to know about the connection nor help him act it out, and likewise Hassad had no reason to think that Metsudo would put on an act to help him go undercover.
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>>287954301
He's not talking about Yodoe
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I just want to point out an Arabian Prince made a threat to assault the guy in charge of an underground Fight Org that determines the Japanese Economy AND acts as entertainment for foreign powers and that Arabian Prince got launched into the sea for it with a well "timed" kick to the face
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>>287955174
>I'll chime in that Hassad wasn't even working for Metsudo, he was hired by Nogi.
Metsudo was masterminding Nogi on purpose tho
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>>287952607
I actually do understand why in-universe people would think he's an asshole and look down on him and don't agree with the majority opinion that he did generally nothing wrong, although I do think what happened to him was a bit over the top and honestly weirdly personal.
He's an asshole, but honestly Raian is a bigger asshole who doesn't really get punished so it does feel like a double standard.
Also, in regards to him 'stealing' techniques, the implication being that he sucks up to masters and lies in order to get taken as their students, only to leave once he get what he wants. Which I guess is different than 'stealing' techniques via observation or being truthful with the masters in question.
But that doesn't exactly call for being crippled and disfigured and thrown to the streets.
I guess you could say that he's a bit of an opportunist in that he seems to care more about money and not so much about fighting itself. Or maybe 'impure'. But then again, like with the Raian example earlier, Muteba exists, who doesn't get punished for that.
Maybe the answer is that in Kengan, you can either be an asshole, or an opportunist, but if you're an opportunist asshole, the heavens (Sandro) will smite you.
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>>287950022
Our prayers have been answered
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>>287955432
You guys are forgetting that he shamed Metsudo with his actions, and as we all know Metsudo's goons are slavishly loyal and would absolutely go after him for daring to insult their Master the irony is that Metsudo couldn't give less of a fuck
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>>287956077
When you lay it out like that, it's like the Bodyguards are to Metsudo what the Worms are to Shen
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>>287945165
lmao
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>>287956229
And now you know why Sandro fell in love with Shen.
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>>287956077
The funny (ironic? stupid?) thing is, Metsudo knew that Yumigahara was 'a rebel'. In fact, that's why he picked him as the next fang.
And then Yumigahara, the rebel, actually rebelled, to his displeasure.
I'm suddenly reminded of a mafia book I read some time ago where a capo was thinking about how a new recruit showing some defiance was actually good since it showed spirit and determination. But of course too much of it means they have no loyalty and thus turn traitor and become a threat, which is why his former protege has been marked for execution and disposal.
I guess it's somewhat telling that this is in regards to a mafia family though and says more about Metsudo and his organization.
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>>287948269
He couldn’t “scale the wall”
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Thanks, everyone
Thanks to you, I’m in “top condition”
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>>287949254
>“I” really “hate” how this “place” is full of “autuists” who “laser focus” on some “narrative aspect” they don't “like” then “proceed” to make it all of “our problems” every “chance” they “get”
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>>287939217
R*ddit isn't happy with my tierlist
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Looking back at this page from Ohma vs Raian, the parasitic imagery of Tiger Niko's ghost leeching off of Ohma's body really has me convinced the original plan was for him to be the Tiger searching for a vessel
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>>287957467
>Alan above literally anyone
Even Terashi is better than that jobber.
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>>287957467
>Julius above Waka
Nigga he lost that fight, stop coping for muscle jobber.
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>>287958194
Sandro doesn't plan anything
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Oh my God they're really gonna have Gilbert show all his shit against Julius just so that his jobbing against Raian can be even more brutal than what happened to Willem
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>>287958541
I'I'd rather Julius just kills him here and spare us all the trouble
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>>287955432
The issue with Yumi that makes people latch onto him so hard is Sandro's laziness and forced meta morality. Characters disliking him is perfectly reasonable, but the narrative itself treating him like it does when Raian is our tsundere buddy now is ridiculous.
It's also pretty clear that the INTENT for the "technique stealing" was similar to what you describe, but Sandro couldn't be bothered to include one single few pages flashback of Yumi bullying some old man who just wants to pass down his secret technique to make us hate him, instead choosing to just tell us to. Then failing that, he desperately throws in a last minute claim that he killed a faceless never before seen or named bodyguard(despite Himuro not mentioning this detail that definitely would have helped rope in Agito), and somehow STILL makes it sound morally ambiguous at worst since it's made to sound like Yumi was fleeing Metsudo's cult for his life and killed one in self defense.
It's just a master class in failed portrayal of a character and low hanging fruit to mock Sandro.
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>>287944159
It's Eddie but he runs on Stupid Teenager OS who only cares about coming up with badass OC Donut name.
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I haven't read a chapter since 318 in august last year when Ohma sparred with Hushen

Did the plot advance in any way? Anything interesting happened?
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>>287959235
Nicholas got ruined and fought Nicholas but at least his chinese buddy made this feel like a real story for a few chapter
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>>287950022
CC?
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>>287959292
Cum Combat
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Perhaps this was already adressed in the thread, but even after all the problems we have been talking, my biggest gripe with whole plot is the following
We already had at least 3 instances (fight with Gaoh Mukaku, the infiltration and reveal to the whole Kengan Association and the fight vs Louhan and Tiger Niko, where the latter almost shat itself) where it was established to the readers that Shen Wulong is absurdly superior, almost to comedic levels, compared to the rest of the cast. He's effectively Saitama in the middle of your favourite fighting story.
So with that mind, i really don't understand HOW this whole "Get the Winning Coin in the Fortnite Arena" event is supposed to both solve the issue of Shen's planned brainjacking, and on the other hand manage to raise the protagonists to a fighting level to even reach Shen. I mean, they're still struggling between each other, i don't see any other potential Saitama yet, so how the fuck do they hope to face him? Why Shen should still give a single fuck about this whole plan and just go away?

I don't even expect a proper answer because we already know Sandro is writing by the seat of his pants so there probably isn't an answer at all yet, but still said question will keep bothering me until the end of the arc.
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>>287959554
The coin is supposed to be a wincon that doesn't require you to beat Shen.
Unfortunately, that would be retarded writing, so we have to assume the coin ends up with Shen or outside of the game otherwise so beating him is the only solution.
And the answer to that is either just Ohma tries really really hard, or Luohan's plan actually comes to fruition somehow.
The latter deals with Shen being too strong, since even if Luohan somehow gets stronger from this, Sandro can just say he's still weaker than Shen anyways.
I guess the most sensible solution to beating Shen is all the finalists going 1v1 at him in a row (Because a 2v1 would just be too hard to draw, please understand)
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>>287959735
>2v1 would just be too hard to draw
>Draw
I think you mean "promt"
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>>287942837
I invested in 2019. Be patient.
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>>287959554
At this point I'm expecting a Shen victory here with a KAT immediately following but we'll postpone it for another six months and then we have Ohma vs Shengus in the finals after that fucking devil, God I hate him so much, Luohan dies.
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>>287950022
Pinakanaka is a true fucking hero. When we were dredging through the drek that was the "REAL" "champions" "tournament" we got a new chapter pretty much every day, full of fun fights. I can't imagine what it would have been like without him on the reserve.
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>>287947655
Why did you read all alone by yourself?
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>>287959554
The objective is to make the tournament go so long you forget what the previous powerlevel of Shen was
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>>287961032
You've got it all wrong.
"We all" read it "alone".
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>>287961296
n-no... "I" am all "alone"?
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>>287961336
Of course not, you've here with "us".
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>>287959554
>Shen's planned brainjacking
Didn't Shen basically give up on brainjacking already because Ohma asked him to? Now, since got full wholosome chungus-ified, he just wants a good sparing partner.
Please forget that Shen as an entity existed for like 1000 years now and was obsessed with passing himself on to the next generation to the point he dumped infinite amounts of money, that he magically just has, into cloning research, Bando's brain transplant fuckery and this current incarnation was trying to get another body for his tulpa.
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Xia sneaking into the Shen memory transplant factory soon
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>>287959554
Tiger Shen was apparently slightly weaker than Ohma last time they sparred, so there’s that out to have Shen “lost”
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>>287961457
Actually, Shen implied he would still continue with the brainjacking plan IF no one offered him a good fight.
And right now... he is bored.
If by the end of the BR he decides to become a villain again, remember it's all Nogi's fault.
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Koga faces off against Shen in the finals. Through his fights with Akoya, Yan, Gilbert and Kuroki he has mastered fist eye, niko style, Karate and principles.

Unfortunatelly he stood no chance and got absolutely destroyed by Shen.
He swears to beat. But Shen has a better idea.

He uses an ancient chinese technique where he pokes Koga in the scalp and makes him lose all his memories. Shen announces he will train Koga into an ultimate warrior. The worm escape. Ryu cries at the face of ultimate tragedy.

End of Kengan Omega

See you in Kengan Omega :RE
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>>287961929
I'm actually working on a reworked Kengan Omega fanfic, and my ending is somehow similar to yours.
(see picrel)

> Koga unlocks the ultimate Fist Eye, called the KENGAN OMEGA
> he beats Shen low diff
> but he can only maintain it for a few seconds
> Tiger and Dragon personalities merge.
> The new personality decides Ohma and Ryuki are not fit to be his successors.
> He kidnaps Koga to be the next Connector.
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>>287962336
Pastey?
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>>287959554
I'm guessing the plan was to use a battle royale format to dogpile Shen and win through gradually wearing him down, the coin exists as a failsafe too.
But then Nogi got dementia or something and changed the rules to encourage the Kenganvengers to slaughter each other. I can only imagine he did this because he was afraid of Shen getting bored. Either way the fight is kind of losing direction now.
I'm not even sure why Shen brought Worms anyway. If he just wants to fight people and challenge himself, then bringing his own team is a little counterproductive.
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>>287962336
this is a psy-op to make sandro look good
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>>287962516
It's probably because of daro ai at this point too
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>>287962336
Holy shit lmao
>>287962796
I think that guy who complains about the Kengan Assocation in every dump thread is one of them.
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>>287961755
On the other hand Shen also needs to wait 50 years for the brain transplant tech, the immediate consequences of him "winning" is just that Ohma and Ryuki have to learn the longevity breathing technique from him and make a pinky promise to not die in the meantime
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Insult missile!
Diss barrage!
Insult missile!
Diss barage!


Boy Julios and Gilbert do nothing but shittalk this fight.
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I need to go "we""we" in the potty.
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>>287939217
The title of this thread makes it look like one of Julius' nicknames is The Monster Dumping.
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>>287962336
Good, very good. Now subvert expectations and have that HERO Koga beat those children to the brink of death, just like western hero Anakin Skywalker, and tell them he was doing it as a favor.

Then have him turn around and shit in Yumi's mouth, it should be clear to the readers why he deserves this by now.
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>>287965685
kek
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>>287965700
Brilliant"!"
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Why didn't FRAUDroki wait at the gate? Doesn't he want to fight Shen at full strength?



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