What's one trope that you think you can implement better than the current offerings? Will you change a dynamic within it, add additional restrictions, or something else?
>>287944915I'm not really conceited enough to think I could outdo a professional.
Gluhen Aya is the best looking Aya
>>287945665>outdo a professional.Most start as doujin authors or 'unprofessional' mangaka
>>287944915Mpreg and feminizationTurn the uke/omega into a literal baby machine with horror elements, kind of like the molerat queen in Shin Sekai Yori. Just turn him into a repulsive meat toilet with tits everywhere and babies hanging from those tits. Make him crush a baby or two everytime he moves. And then have him rape his harem
>>287946010Hmm. I seem to have got a boner reading this...
>>287946010Kek/10
>>287945714I'm a fan of 2000's fighting manga protag Aya
It seems Owari no Seraph will end in the next volume! I admit I'm surprised, I knew it was nearing its end, but I didn't expect there to be only four or five chapters left!And now? What do you expect? Will Mika and Yuu have a happy ending together, or a tragic one?
>>287946256Whether happy or tragic, we want it to be a gay ending.
Opinions on man ass?
>>287947260Should be hairy
I forgot it was goruden weeku which means nyo chapter updates everywhere.Not too related but I've started reading Akira and Tetsuo's 10head growing with every volume concerns me. It's fun though.>>287947260I think I prefer flatter asses.
Gay manwha is pretty good tbdesu
Kidnap and lovingly rape Kanata
>>287946256I just want it to end...
>>287944915Threesome
>>287947681Truly all variations should have Guts as the bottom and GRIFFITH the top, as god intended.
it's very sad there is not enough of kamille topping amuro
>>287947681pic unrel? she's a good artist but i prefer her other works where she's not adapting a snooze rapefest
>>287946256I think it'll end with Mika and Yuu raising the other kids from the orphanage together.
>>287947681There are a lot of ok ones but when they are good they are really good. All About Lust and its spinoffs are greatI only read a few chapters of the latest one tho and One Room TA is probably one of my favorites
What do you think of this new official promotional art of Kagamine Len?It's for an event in China. I saw many people surprised and making jokes about how Len looks very muscular and more "masculine," and how he seems older?
>One of the biggest comic city ships was a het pokemon shipThis surprised me from day one. Day two was definitely more homoship based but i didn't think pkmn really had shipping this hard to this extent that wasn't the OG trio. Other than that it had the usual high performers like genshin, nintama, etc>>287948180I don't participate in vocaloid but [who the fuck is that]? This is not the len i know and i don't even know him. It's not a bad design but it's not really something i would see and immediately go "yeah that's len".
>>287948180He looks like a Len knockoff character from a Chinese gacha. And as a lover of gachaslop I say he looks good and I hope he gets selfcest art
>>287947260>is smoking bad for you
>>287948215Who? Now I'm curious, which characters? Do you have the list of ships?
>>287947925>threesomeSo will Ume be in the cuck chair?
>>287948251カラスバ×セイカ is the ship i was talking about but the circle list for day 1 is here
>>287948440day 2
>>287948440says 79 but i counted way way more than that (for new publications)
I wonder when we'll learn more about their father? The only thing we really know about him is that he put his dick in everything, male or female
>>287948491still going somewhat strong..
>>287948180I never care for adult Lens. They reek of cowardice.
>>287948180too old
>>287948180I love seeing manlier versions of boys.
>>287948440What site is this?
>>287948459why are nips obsessed with Nintama?
>>287948734Why aren't (you)?
>>287948504What race should this new character be? A demon? Some kind of undead?
>>287948734We all want to worship sensei
>>287948759He kinda looks like a zombie+demon+dragon+spider mix
Facing off against the "don't rape Kanata" squad so I can rape Kanata
>>287948872I thought he looked like some kind of zombie, so I guess this might be an excuse to bring back the catboy brother, right?
Is this kind of obsession with a friend normal?
And the way they reacted was cute, right?
>>287949075Kanata belongs to robotic criminals!
>>287948734No one knows.
urgh I was too sick to draw anything on his birthday...
>>287949130>>287949162Why does such a gay manga have to be so painfully straight?
>>287948180I like it, never been that onto vocaloid though so I'm not particularly strict about variants in design.
>>287950033nice ass
Julius head pats
>>287950033Sexo
Kaworu gets to fuck THIS?
>>287951444Not anymore, he's aiming for a different protag right now
>>287944915The heavy ship teasing rivals so common in shonen should just drop all pretenses and make it all out enemies to lovers canon.
>>287949917Fighting the "robo rape Kanata" duo so I can human rape Kanata
>>287951813Hmm slug pits
>>287951498I've never seen a design that screams "EVIL" more than this
>>287951498What the fuck, I had to check the credits for #05 because I went through that episode twice without noticing it was him.
>>287949078I think you're right, he does seem very Frankenstein-y, maybe necromancy exists in this universe. Maybe the priest/nun brother has something to do with it, there was a nun who looked kinda zombie-ish in a previous chapter
>>287952573I watched his scene again. I still can't recognize him lel.
>>287944915I can't implement any tropes because I'm not an artist or a writer. I don't even read bl anymore. This said, most bl I used to read had painfully dull writing, which I think boils down to reheated shoujo tropes. The stories were too short and too focused on romance and sex to have interesting plots. Technically no one in them was gay unless it was specifically the focus so there was not enough casual gay sex and male only love dodecahedrons. Bland self-insert MCs and tropey love interests. Too much shoujo style romanticized rape. Blatant reused character archetypes and ship dynamics such as "manwhore tired of fucking countless sluts with big ass & boobies falls for a pure doe-eyed heroine (w/ a penis)" etc. It gets tiresome after a while.
>>287952626Wait I checked the chapter and she's just being possessed by Gil lol. But still the way they talk about the newest sibling is weird, like he's not really related or something
I am once again asking for the link to the newest G-Witch chapter that was supposed to drop last week.
>make incest pilled: the event for the FGO collabHas the fujomafia forgiven Narita?
>>287953484I'll never forgive Narita as long there's breath and a heartbeat on my body
>>287954063Canon married.
[Happy news]I finished the translation of Kateikyoshi no Kishi Knight desu. Only the volume extra and chapter 16 are missing.Thanks to that anon for always believing in me!
>three ships I likeThis season isn't half as bad as I thought it would be.
>>287948459That Prince of Tennis/Hetalia/Gintama would've been there 15 years ago too.
>>287950093I feel that bromances work better than actual BL because, among other things, there's no pressure for the couple to get together. The ideal series would be a regular manga with a sketchy bromance while the artist posts the actual homo on their accounts.
>>287954361I saw that you finished translating the manga, congrats anon!I enjoyed the comedy and eventual closeness between Kishi and Tooru. And even if was subtle about its romantic inclination, their chemistry was pretty evident. While I found it to be more straightforward and less comedic than Okujima's other works, I enjoyed it nonetheless. It's a pretty simple fun story. Now I just need to watch the live-action show, which I heard expands the story.
>>287944915Omegaverse was better without the boypussy thing.And in general I feel pretty bored with omegaverse in general, a lot of omegas are basically flat girls with a big clit.
Finally they're getting art. I remember the times when there existed barely any fanart for this series and the few pics I found were rather badly drawn. How times change.
>>287953484Lately I've seen several fan art pieces of Richard and John, and they're so cute together! I like the dynamic and contrast between them, and John is quite cute and tsundere, and it would be cool if they became the new Karna/Arjuna, right?
>>287954780Damn, I didn't know that FGO got a John servant. I am into that design
>>287954537I'm following way more series than usual. Last season I only bothered with Oshi no Ko.
>>287954665What I liked about the series was how Kishi helped Toru realize he was a capable person all along. It was kinda like that documentary Legally Blonde.At the start, Toru had a puppy love for Kishi, and it eventually became fond and admiration for him. Kishi kinda confessed to him in one of the chapters, but in a previous chapter to that he mentioned that student-teachers relationships are apart from love relationships and that he wouldn't be the one to confess his feelings if there was someone he liked. I haven't seen the live-action but I read that there's a special episode in which Toru realizes he loves Kishi Kishi.
>>287947681It still tickles me a bit to refer to it as Korean Berserk in my head, because that's what an anon called it on /y/ a while back and led to me reading it.
>>287954780>John is quite cute and tsundere>tsundereDoes he know?.png
https://x.com/i/status/2050643479429321039
>>287954780In TM the psycho little brother ALWAYS tops the older brother, so it's Arjuna/Karna and JohnRicha actually.
>>287955266I liked that as Tooru became closer to Kishi, he also subtly worked on himself and his habits of giving up on his future. He found a purpose within himself not only because he admired Kishi, but also because he wants to be a better person overall. The changes are very minute until he confesses that he wants to do a ronin year to become a teacher just like Kishi. It's the type of chemistry that usually gets stated more obviously in many other BL, so I appreciated that Tooru evolved without it being overemphasized to us.>special episode in live-actionI'll keep that in mind.
>>287834047Can anyone explain why people on this board are so obsessed with discussing what women like vs what gay men like? It feels like the posters here get super defensive whenever someone says women don't usually like bara and idk why.
>>287946207Side B Aya is indeed best Aya.
>>287948440>>287953484Fatesisters our old hagfart franchise has still fucking got it. Watch Fate Strange Fake everyone.
I think you should read Kurumizawa's Folly. No homo just psycho kino.
>>287956107>No homoI mean, there's that bit with the schizo's dad lelThat guy felt like a homo even before that reveal.
>>287948180>Muscle gorilla and cringe scene kid shitI hate westerners so goddamn much
>>287956107I think it's pretty firmly my favorite J+ bi-weekly now, it's great.
>>287948180Why can't barafags stick to their own stuff, why are they always trying to ruin shota and ikemen
>>287955906Because they want to fuck women and not men, gay men are a minority on this board anyway so their opinions are irrelevant, the vast majority are bi or straight. There's maybe 2 gay as in homosexual gays that browse /a/ compared to women.
>>287956461What did the author mean by this?
>>287955167For me it was Gnosia (if that counts, technically from autumn) and also Oshi no Ko. Also, Frieren and Fate. Generally enjoyed the last year more than the years before again though spring 2021 was pretty great. All in all the new season is pretty decent, since I even enjoy Nakamura-kun, which I honestly didn't expect to like.
>>287956623She was quite obviously having an absolute blast with Hata's played-up insanity, it's awesome.
>>287955906It's probably arguments between basement dweller anons and what they believe that women enjoy vs actual women who reply. There is simply no hivemind, be it among men or women. Even if there is a trend like bishounen being more popular on average you will still get thousands of female fans for every decent or gay non-bishounen series because the ones that crave variety all latch onto that one. See Golden Kamuy and its ugly but super popular dudes that have like a million fujo fans.
>>287955906>Why are straight men obsessed with women and not gay menIt's a mystery.
Did anybody read this? I legit never heard anybody talk about it but my manga store has some of the volumes on sale right now.
>>287956447>>287956479>muscle gorilla>bara>that pictureanons please be a little serious. Even if you're disgusted that's no reason to start mangling the meanings of words. This is clearly still a character aimed at girls.Blaming westerners for the scene fashion is also out of touch imo, I see nothing here that hasn't been in anime boyband shit for ages.
>>287956901I read it when there were only a few chapters out but barely remember it. It was talked about a lot on /y/ years ago
>>287956901I read the thing it was a spin off of. It was ok.
>>287956960Idgi either, at least thick thighs Miku makes a little more sense since Miku is thin.Western shit is normally cartoonish smiling skellies like the Hazbin Hotel deer or the rabbit anyway, blaming korea would make more sense.
>>287956960I actually think that westerners are more into twinky bishounen than Asia. Whenever I happen to enjoy a series with more masculine men the fanbase is Japan-only (Or just Japan, China, Korea) and the west doesn't even acknowledges its existence aside from a bunch of anons.
Does anyone here play any gacha games? Among the following, which are the best? What are the pros and cons of each game?Housamo (Tokyo Afterschool Summoners), Another Eidos of Dragon Vein R, Crave Saga, Live a Hero, and XXL WOOFIA.
>>287957178I play genshin. IDK I mean it's fun enough. I have not spent a single cent. I like the lamp and this deviantart sparkledog.
>>287956447>>287956960it’s also a chinese event anyways
>>287957178For homo? The only one I really played was NuCarni. Its alright but I'm not into gacha anymore so I can't tell you how its been ranking recently.I heard a while ago that they were gonna collab with nitro chiral though, I'm not sure what happened with that.
I really like the way this looks. Will watch that anyway since it's historical shit and well animated, but would be hype if some of the side characters or something got some pandering.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu45LJG7Chs
>>287955906People also get super defensive if someone says not all gay guys like bara. That's just barafags being bigger sissies on the inside than 90lb hairless twinks are on the outside.
Might as well post another Julius headpats
>>287957301I gladly welcome another pretty, long haired, purple eyed, historical Japanese shota who is notable for his physical agility.
Alas nucarni started taking up too much space on my tablet.
>>287956479Calling that bara is a ridiculous exaggeration.
>>287955906A lot of culture war type threads are obsessed with women's taste when it comes to their spending power, and this just seems like an extension of that.
>>287956901I remember liking it, but it was mostly notable for how pretty the art was.>>287957162That reminds me of the recent trends update chart that was posted here a while ago.
>>287948180i do like it, it's neat take that is very rare for len, but as a trap/androgyne enjoyer it's also a little disappointing
>>287948180I like it, much prefer shotas but I'd rather have this as his adult design than some trap shit.
>>287957301i might give this a shot for the animation but it was pretty corny that the lady had to die
>>287957162Every twitter danger hair complains that BL isn't woke enough and there aren't enough fat or muscular black characters lol, what kind of cope is this
>>287955906there's a multitude of reasons but you know i've always thought the idea that women aren't attracted to muscular men is silly. the vast majority of women all throughout the world want a hot, buff guy, not a vkei dude
>>287957424What's even funnier is that it will air in the same season as Elusive Samurai s2. I expect a lot of crossover fanarts.
>>287956769If you think Golden Kamuy men are ugly then you have complete shit taste and 0 appreciation for masculine beauty and I'm not even a barafag.
>>287957826>Len>TrapYou made me remember this. Banger.
>>287957885Nya but that does not look like a big black fat muscular man. Turn his hair black and I wouldn't be surprised if I was told he was chinese ir korean uke though, they're usually a little muscular.
>>287957885I don't know what danger hair means, I never see such stuff. I only follow artists of pretty fanart and I simply never see western discussions about series like Bravern, Orb, GK or any male side characters of other series that aren't toddlers or twinks, let alone fanart. Whenever I see western fans talking it's either about Nurutu/Pokemon, JJK, Genshin or some kiddie cartoon shit which is why I learned Japanese since western fandoms are non-existent for anything that isn't mainstream or shoujo BL.
>>287957885>Every twitter danger hair complains that BL isn't woke enough and there aren't enough fat or muscular black charactersDon't mistake performative signaling for what people really want. Not saying there aren't real people who want those things either. Look at the fanfic chart that gets posted, it's always White and (eastern) Asian characters. Of course, they should cut the act and keep liking what they want but they can't handle being seen as problematic.
I've always been curious. >https://poal.me/3218w5
>>287957923They are top tier, but I wouldn't call guys like Tsukishima conventionally attractive. Though I feel like the main reason for the lack of interest for that series is less the art style and more the setting. The majority seems to avoid historical series, even if they contain bishounen and blatant pandering, not sure why, though.
>>287957635I miss the days where ukes were pretty. It now feels most BL is just seme x color swapped version of the seme and it's so damn boring. What happened to contrast. Pretty tired of switches and pretty tops too damn it go back to the classic formula
>>287956610I highly doubt that, i do think this general is mostly straight people but there's no way there's more women here than homos (I'm an actual homo for that matter).
>>287958106It was a classic for a reason.
>>287955906Not to namedrop other places but if you go to female versions of 4chan they have plenty of "WHY DO MEN LIKE [Thing here]" threads. Men will always be obsessed with women and women will always be obsessed with men (if hetero), that's simply how they're wired.
>>287958031Tbf I'd say about 25% of it is due to wanting to be breastfeed everything by Shounen Jump and having seething hatred and a broken black and white scale of either garbage or 10/10 for anything that isn't a grandfathered in series like Eva or pseudo intellectual seinen.
Any reason why tanned guys are popular among barafags? I think that recently they are becoming more popular among them.Not baiting, just curious.
Personally I love types like pic related the most. Neither bara nor twink, just dudes.For some reason I like twinks when they're villains though.
>>287958106>Pretty tired of switchesWhere are you finding all those vers/riba stories? They're incredibly rare sadly.
>>287958043kek true, the only black is Louis and that's because they race swapped him for the TV series but he was always popular anyway. Thank fuck for the rise in BL live-action from Asia so fujos know there are other options.
Who cares what other people do or don't like? I like Chris Redgrave.
>>287958106It got criticized to hell and back, though its not like it doesn't still exist now, it just went from being the only type to there being variety. When it does though, there's always some dumb fuck retard saying the uke is too much of a woman and that the author is self inserting and being homophobic, misogynistic, and a bunch of other retarded bs. Even just long hair=woman sometimes.Same person (not you but, you know) then cries when bl is realistic and same size because now its ugly.
>>287958140What do you mean?>>287958196KR/CN BL is pretty full of them. I forgot some of us don't pay attention to webtoons>>287958174Reasons probably vary from barafag to barafag but tanned skin signals being masculine and also implies a high/constant level of nudity. Like how straight guys really like tanned tomboys
>>287958043Yes because westerners are actually a small minority of the actual fanbase. The people doing those polls aren't westerners. It's why you get those results despite posts like that getting 10k+ likes.These people shilled gachiflopkuta despite never watching it
These two have the potential for an old(er) man yaoi pairing
>>287955906It's much simpler for autists if every woman on the planet is into the exact same thing, and much more convenient for them if that thing happens to match what they respect and aspire towards. Categorizing bishounen as gay and bara as straight is just a way to give credence to that worldview. It's simple black-and-white thinking, nothing worth dwelling on desu.>>287957885Taking aside that the majority of those people aren't being genuine, Xitter represents a vocal minority that aren't reflective of reality. I disagree that westerners like bishounen more than east Asia, especially with China in mind, but woketards wouldn't be virtue signalling over fat black disabled trannies or whatever in the first place if they were attractive.>>287958110>mostly straight peopleI always thought it was mostly bichads here with a handful of homos and straight fujos desu, but maybe I'm just biased.
>>287958241>What do you mean?I was just expressing my support for and agreement with that anon.
>>287958229Man I've never liked the idea that a girly uke means the author is self-inserting. It just has so many irritating implications...I'd also argue it's more misogynistic to assume a woman can't look at a character that's tenuously, tenuously related to her without seeing herself. It's like you're saying she's not smart enough to separate fact from fiction, or something! >>287958288Well gee thanks. >>287958255I'd be more hype about this if eyepatch wasn't bald. Not even hot, monk bald, but he has a cow lick. I can't tell if the creator has a fetish for old guys or if they were aiming to repel fujos
>>287958182Same. I think I like twinks as losers though, like the sniper dude from this show.
>>287958266I think those "bichads" are all virtually straight so i didn't even consider them.
>>287958241>KR/CN BL is pretty full of themAny examples? I can count all the vers stories I read from there on one hand. I'd love to read some of them, so long as the story isn't too shitty.
>>287958366The last one I remember is Pygmalion; the others I pretty much memory dump because they're not for me. You could try searching switch/seke/etc. lists on mangago though, as a starting point.
>>287958326bifags are better than actual gayfags anyway
>>287956610do you genuinely think the people in the gay threads are women?
>>287958520Their appreciation for males is not genuine and they will never be as passionate about it as a gaychad.
>>287958475That was one of the examples I've thought of, along with Thirst, Wagging the Tail, and Playtime with Hakdo. >try searching switch/seke/etc. listsWill do. Unfortunately, I find that those lists get populated by a one-time switch, which is frustrating to someone like me who wants proper seke/vers couple, and probably also frustrating to someone who likes fixed positions. Those stories aren't fulfilling to me.
>>287954868Yes
>>287958610Well good luck partner. I sort of run into a similar issue with my own niche fetish, otoko no ko. They're either too masculine to the point of just being a dude in a skirt or they're shotas, which I'm not TOO into, or it's a temporary thing like you mentioned with switches.
>>287958797>spoilerOh same, and I despise a temporary one too. Though sadly, I don't know if we have much overlap in taste for that. For one, I don't get irritated much about shotas or masculine crossdressers. Also, I prefer picrel over something that's essentially "draw a typical moe girl, and call it a boy". A bit of androgyny goes a long way imo.
https://x.com/i/status/2050763278054556015
Husbands!
>>287958583I never said that, I said homosexuals are the minority, a lot of fags ITT are admitted bi
>>287958797Isn't that same as shounen?
>>287959163No no, I like what you posted too. This and impossibly feminine boys have appeal to me. But honestly my guy preference is pretty vast, the only things I can't outright go for are actual bara (not just a buff anime man, but you know, the snout-nosed bara types) and fatties. Not too into ugly old guys either. >>287959262What do you mean?
>>287959299The tag. I've checked works tagged as 少年 and 男の子. But both are about guys, so I thought the two were similar even if works don't overlap between each tag.
Lately I'm stupid horny for guys whose body type could be described as "big cardboard box." Most of the time it's the artist's style combined with some layers of loose hanging clothes, like guys who wear an open button up shirt over another shirt. Even knowing they draw most of their men like boxes I look at one in particular and think damn he's a mattress.
>>287959199>a lot of fags ITT are admitted biThey're not gay in any meaningful way, any gayness they might express is purely performative. I highly doubt most of them have ever even been attracted to a guy irl.
>>287957178There are no good new games with good homo
Oly is now animated btw
>>287959932>homo powerscaling
Recent sexy standouts for me have been>Agent Choi>Rhyno>the smug eyebags brat from Strikeout Pitch>WHA sexy sensei in the turtleneck>Julius Juukulius's eyelashes
>>287959882Genuinely can't picture what you mean by that but twunks are the hottest body types for me.
>>287960008Forgot but this guy too
>>287959882Got an example of what you mean?
>>287959932thank god, 3DPD should be shamed
>>287959944Of course there are, but they aren’t gachashit.
>The template for bishounen and BL died and regretted ever acting in the gay pedophillic movie that got him famous because of all the harassment>He went out of his way to grow a huge beard and have a lot of children
I can't believe ituka/tomo finally released a R18 doujin after 15+ years.
Have you remained faithful to your first husbando?
>>287956769You're retarded if you don't the think the autistic women itts aren't obsessed with arguing about it too.
Reread Mobius Strip after seeing a video explaining a Möbius Strip. While reading it I thought "wow this really is like a Möbius Strip!" Decided to read the author's notes for the first time and she does in fact explain what a Möbius Strip is...Anyway this is still one of my favorite BL manga, the bottom is refreshing and unique, and knowing the little twist always makes rereading more enjoyable. The abrupt ending is really satisfying for some reason too, them barely being a couple makes sense. I do wish it was longer in the middle though, both the revenge plot and the break up should've been longer
>>287958315People can look at a rock with googly eyes glued on and see themselves. That's what empathy is for. But it's kind of a no brainer that a character who looks and behaves like you the most makes for the best self-insert.
>>287956105Sis they released another homo kino a while ago, and they also wrote Indra/Arjuna last Summer. Why do you think YariYumi keeps getting so many doujins?>Watch Fate Strange Fake everyoneNo, I won't.
>>287959944Monster Hunter Stories 3? Dynasty Warriors Origins? Maybe if you actually played /v/ideogames you'll know.
>>287961490Did they inherit his looks?
>>287962807Well, that's why to make sure people don't get the wrong idea its trendy make sure to make a character that looks so radically different and muscular, though usually most just take any sort of excuse to point the self insert finger anyway.Its also probably why shounen authors have been doubling down on making sure their characters are shown as het only, if its a no brainer then they're not going to risk being called out as gay.
>>287963044>shounen authors have been doubling down on making sure their characters are shown as het onlyI don't see it. Feels the same as before where half the shonenshit is asexual and half has the mc being interested in women.
>>287963115Rivals with screentime have decreased by a lot and instead there's just more women around the mc, its surprising if you never heard the complaining about it either because its quite loud.
Post the gayest shonen rivals thank you
>>287963161There's few successful new shonen series in the first place, I'd say the most popular stuff is usually not aggressively heterosexual (not counting haremshit and romcoms ofc)
>>287963044Shounen writing is soulless so self-inserting in shounen is probably more about the audience than the author. The target demo is straight and male even though there are tons of girls and women reading it too, and not all of the latter are fujos. They don't like to imagine their self-inserts and husbandos as gay.
>>287963218with a touch of doomed yaoi
>>287963115I feel like there is a lack of anyone around the MC compared to before. When you look at older 00+2010 series there was a love interest and a rival. There really isn't much of either today
>>287963161>Rivals with screentime have decreased by a lotI blame KnY and JJK for this, I'm not a fan of Megumi but man what Gege did to him sure is something
Make the shonen villains weird and rapey with the MC again!
>>287962829>There's Cu/Archer lewds older than some people on this thread
Several anons posted something I liked but I don't want to talk about it with (you) because everyone here has awful takes or poor media literacy. It's a shame.
>>287963478I bet you're very fun at parties.
>>287963871I am, thank you. I throw a bunch for my friends.
>>287963478
>>287963478>media literacyI feel that this term is just a cope for those who are only expressing their lack of response to what is there on plain sight. It is always the case that interpretation of this type indicates a dissatisfaction (conscious or unconscious) with the work, a wish to replace it by something else. It makes art into an article for use, for arrangement into a mental scheme of categories.
>>287964764Thanks Chatgpt-bot.
>>287960151tamers12345
>>287961490>no one ITT understood thisThe shame.
>>287961490He always talked out of both sides of his mouth. He cried about it in the west but then went to Japan to lap up the proto-fujo praise.
>>287961490No clue who or what you're talking about.
>>287963327>spoilerI believe.
>>287964853If you think that's chatgpt you truly lack media literacy.
>>287956105Fate isn't worth it for the homo
>>287965767i don't know what people even talk about when people mean fate. i just think of that gacha game FGO
>>287958315AFAIK the mangaka of Sangoku is a woman so I assume she's probably just into all kinds of weirdos and military dudes
>>287966004Not really.
>>287965855It is the gacha people are talking about since the mainline games are basically het dating sims
>>287963871Reddit
>>287960008>WHA sexy sensei in the turtleneckI hate that bastard so much it's unreal, and his stupid turtleneck
>>287962807You're right, it's a no-brained statement. I don't look like Lio nor do I behave like Lio but of course I've been called a self-inserter before for liking him with Galo. It makes no sense to assume self-insertion is happening just because someone shares a few traits with a character (in this case, being feminine, though I'm not even that feminine IRL).
>>287966004Fujos with genuine old man fetishes are powerful...I hope she makes a lot of bank from the show; it's easily the best one this season.
>>287966508When people say self-insertion do they imagine snapewives kind of deal?Cause as far as I'm concerned self-insertion exists on a scale, and there are many different types. Tons of protagonists were clearly designed for people to self-insert as, that's why they are extra bland and relatable. That's what I was talking about, I guess.
Badeni/Oczy porn
>>287966615I think blank slates are worse for self inserting. There's nothing about them you can relate to.
>>287966542>genuine old man fetishes>doesn't post the best hot old man which is taira btw he has canon fangirls
>>287963478>media literacyPost your 3x3 quickly
>>287966707Yeah I had to type *genuine because I'm not that level. I only like "old" anime guys (they have those little lines around their eyes and maybe a few streaks of grey in their hair). >>287966615In terms of BL I believe it's thinking that a woman must want to get boned by the manlier guy, so of course she's going to prefer a trappier bottom as her stand-in. But it's always a lazy and assumptive way to think and only really comes about from those who hate cute ukes and would rather get off to a color swapped version of the top down there.
>>287966900>a woman must want to get boned by the manlier guyThat is obviously the case for most bl fans. Do you think that most fujos self insert as the rapechad? Or do they imagine themselves fapping in the corner?
>>287967046I would prefer to be doing the railing if I don't get a cuck commander center.
>>287966900Most people don't really know how to draw older people unless they specifically studied it regardless. That's about as old as you get nowadays anyways. in the 60-90s people were a lot better at drawing older people. The mangaka is pretty good about drawing all types of people. There is a woman monk later on that's hot as hell.
>>287967046I self insert as the rapechad but I also like manly/taller bottoms...
>>287967046I was under the impression most fujoshi don't imagine themselves in the scene at all. I can see empathizing with the uke's/seme's arousal as you get yourself off, but that's not really self-insertion, is it? That's just consuming porn.
>>287966615There are two kinds of self-insert. One is a self-insert for the audience, a character that is made so that the audiences can live out their fantasies as it and that it never develops and remains the same nor strays from what it is. A blank state is more common in games, but hardly works in other media.The other self-insert is for the author. This one is easier to spot because the character is very pristine and desired by other characters. It's more obvious if the author keeps recycling the character over and over through their works. For example, I would argue that Wagase Wagimoko (Afterglow) makes ukes as her self-insert characters because most of her works revolve around this delicate and super smart uke with a tragic backstory that is saved by a near-perfect seme. It's not that it isn't realistic, but the way it happens and how often it happens is what hints that author made it as a self-insert.
>>287967046I think most women insert themselves as the cuck or the support person rather than be either partner in the couple. Hell, there's a manga that talks about this phenomenon being a thing in fujos.
>>287967046In japanese fanfic, most of the descriptions are of the uke, but I’m not sure if that means they self insert as the seme or the uke
>>287967046They want fuck both. Do you think straight guys jacking off to lesbians are imagining themselves as one of them?
I don't want to fuck any men. I just want Chris to get passed around like a blunt. Is that so wrong?
I only want to fuck one man, and that is misumi.
>>287967254How can you tell that the character is the author's self-insert and not the author's waifu?
>>287967366Can't it be both at once?
>>287967426Dunno. I'm a 100% shipper on the shipper to waifufag scale so I can't answer that one.
>>287967254How can you tell it's a self-insert and not just a pairing dynamic the creator likes? If the uke were a buff dude and noting else changed would you still think it's self-insertion?
>>287967215>but that's not really self-insertion, is it?It kind of is? According to the anon I was talking with, judging by this line:>so of course she's going to prefer a trappier bottom as her stand-inIn my book that's lower on the scale than some ugly bastard rape doujin with disembodied dicks, but it's self-insertion nonetheless.>>28796727290+ percent of bl visual novels are from the uke's POV, the bottoms also tend to have bland personalities and designs compared to the tops, and are more feminine of course. I think it's obvious why.
>>287967366>>287967426>>287967680This is how trying to figure out the deeper workings of a stranger through their yaoi preferences is fraught. Anything could be going on in there and many times is feels like the conclusions reveal more about the person doing the analysis.
>>287967726Very true.
>>287967692That's an overexaggeration, there's plenty with top/switch mcs. Even NuCarni's mc is a switch with the most popular ship having him be top. Everything is still from his pov.Personally imo, anybody who says this sort of thing either self inserts themselves and is bothered people don't/look down on other women/have a fetish for women self inserting into porn.
I like when people get exploded and stuck halfway in the ground with their legs sticking out
>>287967366The waifu gets with the self-insert.>>287967680I mean, there's a point where they are just repeating themselves with no distinction between each character or dynamic at all. It's just shallow. Toriya Kou recycles the same couple design for her works, but the couples are different and follow different dynamics.
>>287967779>Personally imo, anybody who says this sort of thing either self inserts themselves and is bothered people don'tYeah this makes sense. I've definitely had a few clashes with yumes over my preferences. Normally it's >S-so you don't like girls but girls with dicks are fine?? Wtf! Just admit you're a yume already!! Just admit you literally want to be that character like MEEEE
>>287967779>NuCarniIsn't that gacha? I was talking about VNs.>Personally imo, anybody who says this sort of thingYeah no I think I was merely stating the obvious here.
>>287967945why'd you have clashes with yumes over your preferences
This entire thread is socio-politics.
>>287968033I'd like to have a fun homo original to discuss but alas
>>287967963>but its a gachaIt still counts, if anything it should count more since gacha care more about what could be popular and selling that. If what you said was true, the most popular ship would have him be bottom.
>>287968055There are plenty, you just don't read.
>>287967987Because this is 4chan and people like to fight over stuff. I also draw and writefag for a certain general and a few yumes really hate that I don't care for yume stuff
>>287968213sorry, should have specified anime.
>>287968033post something that isn't then we're ALL waiting
>>287968170It doesn't count because I wasn't talking about gacha, because I don't know anything about gacha. You brought it up unprompted to prove that I was exaggerating. I wasn't though. You are comparing a single gacha to the hundreds of VNs I've seen. A lot of them weren't even commercial, so irrelevant to what's popular and what sells.
>>287967726I can make rings around any BL and claim that it represents American imperialism over Japan, but there are things that are easy to spot or plain obvious.
>>287968251So can you.
I can see potential for whatever is going on here
>>287968368>literal hundreds of visual novels!!Yeah you're still exaggerating>because I don't know anything about gacha.OK so you don't actually know.
>>287944915faggot
>>287968502>Yeah you're still exaggeratingI don't think I am.
I played a bazillion vn and fujos self insert into the animal mascot
>>287968495tower dungeon?
>>287968546Oh yeah well I've seen a bazillion and one gay vns and the self insert was the friends made along the way.
>>287968575Yeah. My favourites in it so far are mouse girl and necrogirl but hey.
>>287968616I love the mouse. I have a soft spot for characters that are retarded but noble.
>>287968616The art looked familiar. I bought until v.4 but I couldn't bring myself finish reading it but that was such a long time ago. I'm glad I recognized the art though. It wasn't even that I thought it was bad either.
