>https://tonarinoyj.jp/episode/12207421983661137049
>>287956868>MurataI sleep
>>287956868i thought this was the webcomic and got hypedthen i clicked and got disappoint
>>287956868Nice little ryona chapter.
>>287958291Based
>>287956868TL from the other day:https://cubari.moe/read/gist/cmF3L0tva2lLb2kvS29pUG9uZE1hbmdhL3JlZnMvaGVhZHMvbWFpbi9PbmVQdW5jaE1hbi1NYW5nYS5qc29u/230/1/
¿Lo que mató el hype?
I need Fubuki ass
>>287958384Murata relleno
>moving the fight to the HA HQ for no reason>having Rover intervene for no reason>having the fight move to a random train for no reason>making Suiko do actual damage for no reasonMurata adding random pointless shit so it's not a 1 to 1 recreation of the webcomic but his shit is so lame he ends up having to go back and redraw everything to be 1 to 1 anyway. Why can't he learn to do it right.
>>287959454How did the man go from working on some of the most beloved videogames of all time (Mega Man 4 and 5) to working on one of the most reviled manga of all time (this shit)?
>>287959512ONE doesn't have the heart to tell him his ideas are shit
>>287956868There was already a thread the previous day.
>>287959512I have to wonder how much of that is Murata desperate to leave his own mark, because he never could get his own series running.
>>287956868>No Tats or FubukiYou waste my time.
>>287959887He easily could, if he just made a brainless ecchi comedy.
>>287959512>>287959529>>287959887Written by ONE
>>287961598You're using a book cover to judge the situation."Story by ONE" is the claim, not the proof.This is especially relevant, considering the manga itself has made claims that contradict it.
>>287961632>"Story by ONE" is the claim, not the proof.no, "not written by ONE" is the claim, of which there is no proof.
>>287961651They are both claims, only the second can be backed up.>of which there is no proof.This is blatantly false. Murata himself has claimed responsibility for the redraws, and stated that he has significant creative input in the manga adaptation, both during fan and official interviews.
>>287961678>They are both claims, only the second can be backed up.Nope. "Written by ONE" is the proof. "not written by ONE" is a separate claim, of which there is no proof">This is blatantly false. Murata himself has claimed responsibility for the redraws, and stated that he has significant creative input in the manga adaptation, both during fan and official interviews.Surely you'll back this up with evidence. Surely.
>>287961705>"Written by ONE"Is a claim, the same way "I have a PHD in calculus" and "cereal is part of a healthy breakfast" is a claim. Being on a cover does nothing to boost the truthfulness of a claim.>"not written by ONE"[...] of which there is no proof>Surely you'll back this up with evidence. Surely.I can.I can even post official competing claims, that directly contradict yours. Both of them cannot be true at the same time.As for proof:>“I can't lose when it comes to the amount of redraws I have to do. I redraw as many times as I have to. Even after the manuscript is completed, I redraw it. During the serialization of eyeshield 21, I was frustrated that I could not make corrections. That is why in One Punch Man, I will do it to my heart's content. Because I don't compromise, I sometimes miss the deadline. I feel sorry for everyone in the editorial department, but I've decided to be selfish and fix that part as many times as I can.”https://logmi.jp/knowledge_culture/culture/325986https://onepunchman.fandom.com/wiki/Interviews/Stream_Q/A_4>23/6/2018>T/N: ONE is very busy with other projects these days, the storyboards he sends often consist of simple stick figures and sometimes only descriptions of characters or scenes in text, leaving a lot of the creative work to Murata.
>>287956868Literally, genuinely, unironically, no one cares.
>>287961774>Is a claim, the same way "I have a PHD in calculus" and "cereal is part of a healthy breakfast" is a claim. Being on a cover does nothing to boost the truthfulness of a claim.Of course it does, just as the claim "I have a PHD in calculus" would be considered truthful when read on the cover of their PHD. Are you actually implying the cover of this book is fraudulent? ONE must not be getting paid then...>“I can't lose when it comes to the amount of redraws I have to do. I redraw as many times as I have to. Even after the manuscript is completed, I redraw it. During the serialization of eyeshield 21, I was frustrated that I could not make corrections. That is why in One Punch Man, I will do it to my heart's content. Because I don't compromise, I sometimes miss the deadline. I feel sorry for everyone in the editorial department, but I've decided to be selfish and fix that part as many times as I can.”Redraws=/=rewriting. Murata has been redrawing the manga as long as it has existed, you only had a problem with it when the narrative that he was writing it popped up.>ONE is very busy with other projects these days, the storyboards he sends often consist of simple stick figures and sometimes only descriptions of characters or scenes in textSo he's still getting the storyboards? That's the writing, genius. I thought the narrative you fags have switched to now is that he doesn't get storyboards at all.
>>287961852>Of course it does, just as the claim "I have a PHD in calculus" would be considered truthful when read on the cover of their PHD.Why would it be?>Are you actually implying the cover of this book is fraudulent? ONE must not be getting paid then...How is this relevant? GRRM gets paid for the Game of Thrones TV show as well, but that does not mean he's responsible for it.>Redraws=/=rewritingMost of your arguments boil down to picking apart word choices and arguing term definitions.In the context of a visual medium, redrawing can absolutely be considered rewriting. From the context, it is clearly being used to mean rewriting.>So he's still getting the storyboards? That's the writing, genius. I thought the narrative you fags have switched to now is that he doesn't get storyboards at all.You ignore that the quote is from 2018. Murata no longer receives storyboards presently. The point is to elucidate that even when he DID, he still has significant creative input.Especially when, as you have also ignored, the storyboards boil down to simple stick figures and descriptions with nothing specified.
>>287961916>Why would it be?Because that's literally what the proof is, stupid. Would a driver's license or a passport not be proof enough of identity to you?>reee noo that doesn't count it's just a piece of paperretard>How is this relevant? GRRM gets paid for the Game of Thrones TV show as well, but that does not mean he's responsible for it.Does GoT credit him for the writing? Do you think writer's credits for a tv show could just be false or something? Is it just made up?>In the context of a visual medium, redrawing can absolutely be considered rewriting.no it can't, that's why there are 2 separate words for it you spastic retard.>You ignore that the quote is from 2018So you're posting out-of-date quotes and you think this helps your argument? retard.
>>287962054> Would a driver's license or a passport not be proof enough of identity to you?If there are irregularities and/or contradictions? No, it would not be enough.>Is it just made up?Yes?If there is contradictory evidence, it is worth asking more questions. Otherwise, sure, they can be taken at face value.>So you're posting out-of-date quotes and you think this helps your argument? retard.It does.Because it demonstrates that Murata having creative input is a consistency from even before the manga adaptation went bad.
WHAT RAPEDTHEHYPE?
>>287962081>If there are irregularities and/or contradictions? No, it would not be enough.oh yeah, irregularities such as "my headcanon is that this isn't you"You're delusional>If there is contradictory evidence, it is worth asking more questions. Otherwise, sure, they can be taken at face value.Except there isn't contradictory evidence, just your imagination. You seem really confused about what is and isn't evidence. >It does.Yep, it's fine for you, but not for me, despite you being the one posting it as evidence. Good one.>Because it demonstrates that Murata having creative input is a consistency from even before the manga adaptation went bad.Murata has always had creative input, as he is the illustrator. Everything he does is creative input by definition.
>>287962134>oh yeah, irregularities such as "my headcanon is that this isn't you"Have you read the webcomic, or any other of ONE's works? Then you should understand why people have doubts.The manga adaptation simply is nothing like how ONE usually writes his characters. Down to it directly contradicting the webcomic for no coherent reason.>Yep, it's fine for you, but not for meYou've argued against your own point.You have acknowledged that there are existing claims that directly contradict each other.>Murata[...] is the illustrator.>Everything he does is creative input by definition.Yes, and his contributions on that front are towards the writing as well as the art.
Is the schizo still going on?
>>287962197I'm not sure if he's even a fan of the manga adaptation.
>>287962190>Have you read the webcomic, or any other of ONE's works? Then you should understand why people have doubts.>The manga adaptation simply is nothing like how ONE usually writes his characters. Down to it directly contradicting the webcomic for no coherent reason.Have you watched Star Wars episodes 4, 5 and 6? Have you seen the Prequels? Should we doubt whether George Lucas made either when they're so different? Name a single writer of anything that has remained consistent over the lifespan of their work>You've argued against your own point.I'm sorry anon but your argument is from 2018, it's out of date>Yes, and his contributions on that front are towards the writing as well as the art.And you base that on nothing at all except a desire to believe itWrittenby ONE
>>287962233>Have you watched Star Wars episodes 4, 5 and 6? Have you seen the Prequels? Should we doubt whether George Lucas made either when they're so different?I have seen them. I would say they are quite similar. The Prequels are simply a more unrestrained Star Wars.The same cannot be said about Game of Thrones and ASOIAF, or between the webcomic and the manga adaptation.>I'm sorry anon but your argument is from 2018, it's out of dateYou ignore the other piece of evidence from 2022. What is your cut-off point? Because "Story by ONE" is even older than that.>And you base that on nothing at all except a desire to believe itI base it on the evidence I have shown you.I base it on the contents of the book, and not the book cover.
>>287956868AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>287962279>I have seen them. I would say they are quite similar.They are objectively not and now you're being amusingly dishonest>You ignore the other piece of evidence from 2022.Which is what? Why are you pivoting away from the 2018 evidence now? Are you saying it doesn't count or something?>I base it on the evidence I have shown you.You haven't shown me any evidence yet at all
>>287962297>Literally Written STORY BY ONE>Someone keep coping about itHahaha
Redraw arc when
>>287962308>They are objectively not and now you're being amusingly dishonestIf you believe I am being dishonest, I don't know why you would continue engaging with my arguments. Understand that I am equally puzzled by your claim that ONE wrote the manga adaptation.ONE is writing his other works in concurrence with the manga adaptation. This is a scenario very much unlike yours with George Lucas, where there is a several year difference.>Which is what?>“I can't lose when it comes to the amount of redraws I have to do. I redraw as many times as I have to. Even after the manuscript is completed, I redraw it. During the serialization of eyeshield 21, I was frustrated that I could not make corrections. That is why in One Punch Man, I will do it to my heart's content. Because I don't compromise, I sometimes miss the deadline. I feel sorry for everyone in the editorial department, but I've decided to be selfish and fix that part as many times as I can.”https://logmi.jp/knowledge_culture/culture/325986>Why are you pivoting away from the 2018 evidence now?Because you have flippantly dismissed it, and so any attempts from me to focus on it would stonewall the conversation.>You haven't shown me any evidence yet at allI have.What is your definition of the term?
>>287962371>This is a scenario very much unlike yours with George Lucas, where there is a several year difference.Yes and there's a long period of time between when the MA arc was written in the webcomic and when ONE retconned it in the manga>“I can't lose when it comes to the amount of redraws I have to do. I redraw as many times as I have to. Even after the manuscript is completed, I redraw it. During the serialization of eyeshield 21, I was frustrated that I could not make corrections. That is why in One Punch Man, I will do it to my heart's content. Because I don't compromise, I sometimes miss the deadline. I feel sorry for everyone in the editorial department, but I've decided to be selfish and fix that part as many times as I can.”>https://logmi.jp/knowledge_culture/culture/325986I've already addressed this and you know it>Because you have flippantly dismissed it, and so any attempts from me to focus on it would stonewall the conversation.It wasn't dismissed, I addressed it and then YOU claimed it didn't count because the 2018 evidence is old>I have.You haven't. All you've shown is that Murata does redraws (we already knew this) and that he has creative input (we already knew this). You haven't given any evidence that he has written any of the story.
>>287962418>Yes and there's a long period of time between when the MA arc was written in the webcomic and when ONE retconned it in the mangaThis is a dishonest framing.The webcomic is still ongoing.The webcomic chapters released in concurrence with the manga chapters have no resemblance with each other in terms of dialogue, characterisation and tone.>I've already addressed this and you know itAll you've done is claim that two words mean different things solely because they're different words, while ignoring the context in which "redrawing" is used.>it didn't count because the 2018 evidence is oldYou were the person who made that claim.I answered by pointing out that the claim "Story by ONE" is even older, which you have also ignored.>You haven't given any evidence that he has written any of the story.I have.You have simply claimed that they are invalid while misrepresenting them.And you refuse to acknowledge that there are official contradictory claims for who writing the story.
>>287958329She's such a shit character, so it's nice to see her get punched.
>>287958329>cant have kids anymore Nice
>>287962515>She's such a shit characterBlame the shitty writer that came up with her
>>287962322>getting shit on by everyone>he has to cope by samefaggingHahaha
>>287956868>>287958353>website says it's chapter 275>page says it's chapter 228>TL says it's chapter 230Something has gone horribly wrong here
>>287963423>Casca makes the mistake of robbing the Kwik-E Mart
>>287963423>had to go back and check the page againI've been bamboozled!
>>287963779Don't worry. Murata will fix on the redraws
>>287963423i hope she has to pay for the damages but cant afford them so she gets a job at the mart
>>287956868FUCK MURATA
>>287956868>murataim looking for the Story by ONE
>>287956868really fun chapter
This community should make more porn of characters who aren't Tatsumaki and Fubuki all the time, seriously