Less than a day until GT15Will our hero Hamazura find what he could do to honor Coronzon's memory?
>>287959798Along with the question of “who is the mastermind that is helping him?”
>>287959933Almost been 20 years since his first appearance, Still wearing those same clothes. Even Accel and Touma constantly change their dress wear.
>>287959845If the mastermind is an existing character that isn’t Blodeuwedd, Aiwass actually makes the most sense, based off his comments about wanting to spread revolution in NT19
>>287960034To be fair 40 novels is like 4 days in universe time.
>>287960252That’s wrongOne novel is about 1 day
December was the most packed month in Index, while the first week of January is the most packed week.
>>287960829>Christmas>New YearOf courseExpect Valentine to also be that busyand pray the romes don't get any funny idea about St. Valentine
>>287961116I'm not sure we are going to get to valentines day even with another series.
>>287961217Kamachi can easily make Valentine the finale of the next testament if he just skips a few days
>>287961464Are we even going to reach February in the next testament?
>>287961874we canassuming one volume lasts one day, we will reach Feb in the 17th volume of the next series
>OT1 to OT13 is over 2 monthsKamachi used to be capable of timeskip…
>>287961116>and pray the romes don't get any funny idea about St. ValentineW-What do you mean?
>>287962765https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Valentine
>>287962102OT1 to 2 did a lot of that work
I want to pound this little tart into submission (sexually)
>>287965448She is still waiting for the opportunity to beat up Touma.
>>287966388Current Touma would casually "IDTI" her
FUCK MISAKI
calm your dickwe are not even sure if Kamachi will have that blonde slut appear in GT15
it should be out
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>>287968060From this point on I don't know the correct order of illustrations since the guy on tieba who usually posts them did them out of order
>>287968086The master mind?
>>287968086>another slutty little girlKamachi and Haimura couldn’t help themselves
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>>287968110>Rikou and Kanzaki getting breast mogged by Itsuwa
>>287968110are they questioning her because Hamazura’s escape?
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>>287968130Tatemiya’s hidden big breasts theory was right
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>>287968163Itsuwa (and her tits) made it to THREE (3) illustrations!
>>287968163FUCK YEAH
>>287968179...And that's allTime to look for spoilers
>>287968179Holy fuarkRound 3?! (Yes, I’m counting their first meeting as round 1)
>>287968163>SHOOKsuwaNot again
>>287968179Calling it now, Hamazura loses. Kamachi doesn't have it in him for a full heel turn.
>>287968247>epilogue’s namesadly, everything points to him winning
>>287968247I hope so because the reason for Hamazura turn is so completely dumb and stupid
>>287968163#3>>287968145#4>>287968129#5>>287968110#6>>287968086#7>>287968179#8Correct order for B&W illustrations
>>287968405>cooking mama shows up that earlyDamn, it could be multiple transcendents helping then
Why are they like this?
Hamazura tries to kill himself with a gun in the climax but suddenly the gun stops working and it's implied that God may have intervened
>>287968554what, so you mean…Shiageluck might have been God’s help all along?
>>287968554>Hamazura needs to be tardwrangled by fucking GodThe absolute state
>>287968554Why did he try to kill himself?
>big G>doing somethingb-but Touma said…
>>287968554All the luck Touma can't get has to go somewhere. We working on binbougami rules
>>287968554>>287968586God directly helping Shiage out of sheer spite for Aleister is beyond comedy
Does this mean Touma made a fool of himself with all his God slanders (specifically about God being a jerk who does nothing) in GT10?
>>287968742Actually it proves Touma rightLeaving everyone to eat shit and only saving the suicidal retard isn't exactly a good look for God
>>287968786If GT9 is anything to go by, Touma wouldn't it the other way either
>>287968554MoreHamazura figured it might be too hard to make Touma pay by killing him so suicide was his backup plan. There's a huge "system" in this world that forced Coronzon to die, and Hamazura wants to use his life to prove that it can't save the lives of the weak. He says Touma's answer is always violence and that he can't save everyone, and that him killing Coronzon is him falling to the side of evil. Hamazura intended to kill himself to curse Touma, saying that he'll make the rest of his life hell knowing he can't save anyone at all anymore. But when he pulls the trigger, nothing happens. He was sure he pulled it, but nothing came out, there wasn't a jam or anything. There was no logical explanation, it was an impossible situation, but it actually happened. The absolutely impossible happened, unnatural, unclear, and unreasonable. Was it fantasy? The "system" that controls all of this, Coronzon's death, and even divine intervention that "science" was destroying may in fact have strengthened
>>287968864Damn this sounds worse than expectedFirst offFUCK HAMAZURAMUST HAVE BEEN NICE BEING ON THE SIDE THAT CHEERED FOR THAT DAMN DEMON TO DESTROY THE WORLD INSTEAD OF THE SIDE THAT ACTIVELY TRIED TO REASON WITH HER
>>287968086This girl is Index’s sister that Coronzon was keeping separated from her, named NarthexWhat the fuck
>>287968960HEADCRAB BROS
>>287968179Told ya Hamanegro was going to go after Touma.>Touma is bloody and madand he did something bad
>>287968086THAT’S THE SAME STAR INDEX HAS ON HER CLIP
>>287968960Finally fusion
>>287969012Shimaidon is better
>>287968864I hope Rikou break up with Hamazura because someone like him should not have someone like her as a GF. At this point he a complete scumbag, who would choose to cause horrible pain for the people who care about him, for a completely unjustified revenge against someone. Doing the thing he once try to say was unreasonable to put on a a normal high school boy, only to do just that to him.
>>287968864The fuck is wrong with this faggot? Like what kind of brain worms is he infested with to try to commit suicide in his position? My guy is gayer than Alesiter.
>>287969053But he did it for demon pussy
Remember when some anons theorized that Coronzon was up to something with Index at the end of NT?"Even so... Index is Latin, while Narthex is English, is it? That bastard Coronzon. By deliberately casting them into disparate environments, she was intentionally manipulating their circumstances to force them to evolve.""......At this rate, it seems there are likely still others lurking in the shadows of the world—entirely separate series, perhaps, named in French or German."
There is only one person who could fix Hamazura right now
>>287969121What this ape is going to do with him? Kill him?Lol, lmao even.
>>287969119oh fuck off no way There is more of them
>>287969119>Headcrab haremplease no its NT9 all over again, Touma doesn't have the funds to feed the swarm so they will eat him alive
>>287969119>possibly an Index collecting racekino
>>287969161Relevancy achieved
>>287969149Shove her cyborg fist in his ass and vibrate his prostate until he is limp and crying.
>>287968864That end part made sense that the system was strengthened because if this is the God from the bible, then magic was always the enemy/hated by GOD. Which in this series would mean that GOD had always been on the side of science. Honestly which Crowley being curse with fail, it would make perfect sense that his big plan to destroy Magic was always the plan of the thing he hated most(GOD)
>>287969119I've been out of the loop for a long while but are you kidding me?
>>287968864>tanking Touma's sermon and shoving the unpleasant tragedy in his face to deny him the self-satisfaction kickActually, pretty based.
God's system is what is called "fantasy" hence Imagine Breaker meaning Fantasy Killer in JP. This is directly what Aleister meant in OT2 when he said the existence of Deep Blood must prove the existence of Vampires, so the existence of Imagine Breaker must prove the existence of fantasy and God
>>287969272Also unbelievably gay, way beyond anything Aleister & Accel ever done.
>>287969283It always comes back to OT2...
>>287969119This would indeed be a huge back-up plan in case of Coronzon death. To release more then one magic grimoire library into the world to bring chaos and destruction to the world through magic
>>287969228I mean Aleister is a legitimate saint, like his blood was good enough to cause miracle restoration. We always knew big G was shilling for him on the side.
God no please don’t let it be that all of Index’s sisters are better women than Index herself
>>287969332kek sorry but this is the expected outcome, if any of the sisters-2-headcrab-boogaloo is shitter than Headcrab it would be actually surprising.
>Anyone with any knowledge of magic would know exactly what Agnese was so casually referencing.>The girl who had memorized 103,000 grimoires had become something of a legend.>She was known as the Index Librorum Prohibitorum.>“Well, she was just one of many prototypes and the only one that happened to be successful. Which is why you can still find these failed Indexes that didn’t quite make the cut scattered around the world.”Agnese SS is required reading like SS1 and 2 now
>>287969332I'd be surprised if he manages to make a character worse than Index
>>287969323>rewritten in the anime>skipped in the manga
>>287969400Hamazura will look at this and still say Coronzon did nothing wrong btw
>>287969418and they SHALL pay the price for doing thatI’m now convinced Kamachi was mad pissed when OT2 and OT4 were done dirty by the anime
>>287969400Except the failed Index was a magic object and not a person in that case. It's presented as them trying a bunch of methods to copy original grimoires in one place and landed on girl with perfect memory
>>287969438Yeah they do come up a lot.
OT2 is still skippable unless Izzard Dummy somehow returned
>>287969512Izzard will come back in GT22 as a puppet controlled by Touma created by the memories that the Dragon ate in OT2
>>287968864Hamazura's bitch fit suicide wouldn't really be a tragedy though, rather it would be a comedy, let Noukan piss on his corpse and run the laugh track.
fucking hell I really can't take this blonde faggot seriously lmaohe literally went apeshit over a demon bitch who couldn't even careless about him
Apologize to the big G!
Hamazurafags aren't recovering from this one anytime soon
>>287965448We were robbed of a funny ongoing dynamic between Floris and Touma. Lessar's such a slutty attention whore that we're never getting any other New Lights ever. Feels bad man. Especially since Floris is very cute.
>>287969814I really liked their vibes of buddies forced by circumstances A shame she was quickly sent back to detention center
this shit with Hamazura is probably the dumbest fucking shit Kamachi has ever written across all of his released books so far, not just Index
>>287969919I like the lead up to Godvery funny for such a thing to be involved with Hamazura
>the Hamazura sections increasingly portray Touma as a bad personKamachi is sort of doing the inverse of Touma being treated as some unstoppable savior machine when he's offscreen in other perspectives usually
>>287969744>Hamazura wanted to shake up Touma at the price of his own life>ended up humblebragging about having all the God's blessings in the world not even Imagine Breaker could negateEverything went even better than expected.>>287969919"Noo, I don't want a gf, I want a family" was easily dumber.Not to mention whatever the fuck Beatrice was.
>>287970068>all of this just because of demon pussy
>>287968864Soo is Hamazura a female? This is a bitchy daughter/wife behavior, the psyched out idiot who has never been hit though its entire life commits "suicide" to hurt those who care for it and prove them "wrong".>UUUUUHHH YOU DIDNT EVEN WANT TO DESTROY A WORLD FOR ME YOU DON'T CARE AT ALLThis is literally what this thing is doing. What would Takitsubo think? Oh yea the guy I love to death committed suicide to own some high schooner, he is so based "wipes her sobbing face spreading snot of joy all over".Retarded bitch.
Do you think Aihana foresaw this?What would they think about this considering they were involved with both Touma and Hamazura?
>>287970104>proved beyond reasonable doubt that he is indeed the gayest bitchiest bitch in the whole wide world>daddy God blesses beyond measure and protects from bitch tantrums>simps for demons to prove daddy wrongHamazura needs to be spanked until his ass is red with blood.
is Hamazura finally on the same wavelength with Mugino?
>>287970171Aihana's whatever shouldn't work on Touma, at least not directly. It would be a gamble to predict how he reacts to other things he could influence.
Hamazura encounters Narthex, which is Coronzon's backup plan, she has the opposite power as Index and can instead encrypt magical knowledge, seal the magic of magicians and use scientific knowledge. Narthex views Coronzon as her mother and master and wants to defeat Touma and extract the knowledge of hell from his brain, go to hell and play the resurrection game to revive Coronzon.
>>287970161>>287970242Cry more.
>>287970276I think Mugino is more mature than Zura so not quite.
>>287970302I'm not crying, I am laughing. This shit is hilarious in the same way Eren's "at least 10 more years" or that guy who imagined his crush getting fucked by some frenchie is. Hamazura got deconstructed into a petty little bitch.
I just noticedwhat Hamazura was trying to force Touma to go through was the same feeling when pre-amnesia Touma couldn’t save Mitsuari Ayu.except we know pre-memory loss Touma was still going strong even with the regret of failing to save that girl
I’ve only read Railgun so these spoilers are pretty funny, cause I had no idea Hamazura was a particularly relevant character.
>>287970290She wants to be Dragon’s food?She could’ve just asked
>>287970384Touma failed to save st Germain like 12 volumes ago, Touma failed to save CRC and had to dirty his hands, Touma failed to save himself and had to damn Kingsford & CRC to hell to get out. GT is just a large list of "Touma failed". Touma doesn't conciser himself some arbiter or anything, it is the viewpoint of us the readers, Touma is concerned with staying for another year, feeding Index and making sure he has running water. He tries his best to prevent tragedies that unfold in front of him and weeps when he fails. This is how it always was.
>>287970290>Coronzon cultists show up to avenge her. I told you. And what did I tell you? Didn’t I tell you? ‘Cause I told ya! Mmhmm. And when did I tell you? A long time ago. And what did I say would happen when I told you? Exactly what just happened.
>>287970502You know, this just shows Hamazura’s understanding of Touma is really really shallow.Like, Hamazura only knows the superficial details of a person named Kamijou Touma and uses those to judge his entire being
>>287970491>That imageTouma (fake) should be the last one talking about fucking things upDude came out only once and managed to somehow do NOTHING right
>>287970572Excuse mehe also came out in GT9 along with the rest of the gang (except the runaway angel)
>>287970599and we know that is was another mistake, Touma is capable of dodging and taking out CRC without the dragons if he can just read his wave, what he needed was more info on the enemy.
>>287970548>only knows the superficial details of a person named Kamijou Touma and uses those to judge his entire beingLiterally the plot of the alpha world
>>287968086More about this girl.Touma and Co. got their ass kicked by Narthex, but managed to turn the table around with Hamazura's help. (Touma vs Hamazura happened after Narthex was defeated.)
>>287968086>Coronzon's self proclaimed daughter dresses up like this?????
>>287970669Huh so Hamazura wants to settle it by himself or what?
>>287970710Yes it has to be up close an personal, maybe a little kiss before he goes.
After Hamazura's suicide fails, Touma rushes to knock him out and in the split second before he attacks, Hamazura thinks that he sees some silhouette behind Touma (sort of implying it's God?) and can only think "you can't be serious" before getting KO'd
Damn, so many people want to go to hell latelySatan must be happy
>>287969053>street rat guttertrash is a retardWow I would have never expected this.
>>287969119>>287969400What are the chances that Puzzle 545 is connected to that?
>>287969400Don’t forget Itsuwa SS
There's some similarities between Kamisato's plot in NT and this with Hamazura, Kamisato was effectively referring to the system of God when he talked about how his harem was only drawn to him for supernatural reasons, and how he viewed the red string of fate
>>287970927yeah no shit, both of them prefer the dick.
>>287970927/raildex/ was always too hard on Kamisato
>>287970968But Hamazura’s chimp out was because he missed out on the demon pussy
>>287970840Might be high, I wonder if there's a series of libraries and also a series of demons she created
Imagine if Index got remote controllers because she was the only library Coronzon couldn’t brainwash or gaslight kek
>>287971013>he missed out on the demon pussyThe demon was just means to an end (a buffet of dicks in the perfect world)
>>287971013Yeah and what was his genius plan? To kill himself in front of Touma to teach him a lesson, to hurt him, to prove that he can't save everyone as if he doesn't know that already.Once the demon pussy was lost, Hamazura ran into the closest store, bought himself a set of jiraikei clothes & makeup, renamed himself to Hama-chan, painted his gun pink and rushed to "show" Touma how wrong he is. Demon pussy was the trigger but Hamazura's thirst for dick was innate. Now we know why he hasn't fucked Takitsubo yet, it was in front of us this whole time. Hamazura is dick starved fruitcake.
>>287971097Would be kinda based and would explain her behavior. Headcrab the indomitable.
>>287969119That actually perfectly explains why she sent Index to AC holy fuck
Hamazura's coming out also explains why he was so eager to blow up the world.
>>287971000He took the blame for the story needing to slow down for a bit after the Othinus arc. Not saying any of those volumes are among the best, because they aren’t, but I liked most of themActually Kamisato was the highlight of his own arc because when he had no agency like at the end of NT15 and 16 it got kinda retarded
>no Aleister spoilerwhere the fuck is that damn ghost?Kingsford blew him back almost instantly, didn’t she?
>>287971652Possessing Hamazura.
>there are a lot of magical indexesWith this new reveal, the “kinsho mokuroku” part of the novel title finally seems important
>>287971777Touma will need a bigger dorm to collect them all.
>>287971796eh, the one appearing in this volume already kicked his ass and planned to dissect him.More like he needs to punch all but the Latin one
>>287971777I feel like it’s one of those things where people have almost assumed it for years but it’s crazy to finally get it revealed
>A Certain Magical Index>Awe’re close but not there yetOnly one of them will be relevant and it sure as fuck won’t be headcrab
Hamzura save by same being who supposedly planned coronzon deathIs such ironic conclusionNow i want to read vol to get full context since it's seems really interesting.
>>287971945the day when Pen doesn't job is the day when she becomes best girl.
>>287971945>part 4 is called A Certain Magical Narthex
There should be an update on hell’s situation at the end of every volumeI want to know how well Kingsford and CRC are faring against Astaroth
>>287971951That was that being apologizing.Sorry bro, didn't mean to hurt you. Live bro. Sorry.
>>287970290>she has the opposite power as Index and can instead encrypt magical knowledge, seal the magic of magicians and use scientific knowledgeKihara bros?
>>287972094Don’t be hastyThere are a lot of magic librariesLet’s see the French and German one first
>>287972132They have always been worthless aside from the dog
>>287972155Didn’t Mina find something in Germany a few volumes ago
Leave the Aztec magic library to HIM
>Touma might have ended up in England againHere we go again!
>>287972552New Light bros!
Othinus should lift her ban on arms and practical knowledge. Touma needs to call Kanzaki and ask her for martial arts training, just drilling proper stances during the strikes and posture will immediately elevate him to a serious threat in CQC. Aogami/Mikoto/Anna should be able to provide him with a decent gun and explain how to use it. Shit is hitting the fan fast.
>>287972697Gun is a no-no because his misfortune will make it miss 10 times out of 10
>>287972736Touma is actually pretty damn accurate even with diy ranged weapons, Stiyl would confirm.
>>287971796>Touma will need a bigger dorm to collect them all.Next door is empty so just knock down a wall.
>The Latin bites his head all the time>The English wants to dissect his brainImagine what the others would do to himthe horror
>>287968960Fake spoiler because this mean that Index is important again and that would never happen
>>287972856The consul of Index will decide what to do with Kamijou Touma's body and soul.
>>287972856>The German one wants to put him in a gas chamber
>>287972895Kamachi could have easily have all library sisters but Index be relevant
>>287970793>some silhouette behind ToumaIts Aihana etsu doing some shit. I just can’t prove it. How else would pre memory loss Touma know that IB could negate systems of God?
>>287973023>could have easily havecould *easily have
>>287972895Sadly the most likely outcome. Unlimited Index gotta catch them all sounds too fun to be true.
Surely Hamazura will have a heart-to-heart with Takitsubo after this, right?
>>287973027The most likely one is Crowley's ghost
>>287973157eh, from what the spoiler said about that new girl, most of them seem to be Coronzon believers
>>287973157It’s real precisely because no one in their right mind expected Kamachi to do something with Index
>>287973165>That evening Hamazura Shiage was seen wearing pink blouse, black skirt, choker and thigh high stoking, going into a shady slum surrounded by skill outs.Doubt.
>>287973299You should stop with your imagination, anonHe was just knocked out senseless by Touma while wearing his usual jacket
>>287968110damn kanzaki's ass looking like it barely exists here
>>287973362Haimura was focusing too much on Itsuwa’s tits.It’s so prominent even when she’s faceless
>>287973362It took 20 years for Haimura to get used to drawing breasts alone, we’ll need another 20 for ass
>>287970793>silhouette behind Touma (sort of implying it's God?)I can't believe Touma was Jesus this whole time
>>287970793Maybe it Coronzon's soul because we honestly don't know what fisheggs did to it after Coronzon dumb plan of cutting off Touma's right hand. Maybe it destroy Coronzon's soul or maybe trap it inside of Touma's right hand as well
>>287973362as a matter of fact she has neither tits nor ass on that image, meanwhile Floppy has grown 2 sizes, Flatzaki is canon and it seems like Itsuwa has consumed all of her curves.
>>287973437>Lola stuck with the other 4would be funny
>>287970793Is that the last we hear of Hamazura in GT 15 or is there something more?
As usual, you can only rely on other media like manga or anime to accurately portray the girls’ assets
>no spoiler for the hospital documentit’s over for Touma’s grade advancement, isn’t it?
>>287973502My point exactly, Flatzaki is canon. She started super curvy but then Itsuwa wanted those goods to herself and used some dark ritual to take it all, and she did.
>>287973564There was never ever any hope that would work out for Touma, without a big IF to it
>>287973564AC should have recorded CRC pummeling. That is enough ESP juice to give him a serious assessment boost. He should be fine.
>>287973564If it’s true that he got shipped to another country he may as well just switch schools at this point
>>287973578Imagine being an OG Kanzakifag back from the ye olden days where she was the most popular magic girl and seeing this
I thought the epilogue’s title about seeds was about Hamazura’s success but if he’s already down then the seeds here may be the magic libraries that Coronzon planted around the world
>>287973680I miss her giant saint kanzakis.
waiting for Takitsubo spoiler
>>287973492No idea, the few people posting spoilers went to sleep after all of them saying it's a 5/5 volume
>>287968086>>287968960headcrab getting replaced soon
>green eyes mentionedHm...
>>287974314if anything, headcrab is the only one not worshipping the ground Coronzon walked, it seems
>>287974366Touma can fix that with his punch
>>287974350As far as we know there’s still only green eyed magic god candidates
Big G won yet again.when will mortals learn?
If Hamazura really did try to off himself and it failed for miracle reasons, it doesn't have to be big G. Stopping a gun from firing is a fairly trivial thing for most high end mages and there is quite a number of them in/around AC right now.
>>287974143Now that I think about it Takitsubo is just Fran with tits.
How would Index assert her dominance with the potential appearance of new forbidden libraries?
>>287975082By devouring them all and ascending into magic library godhood.
>>287975082Have Touma shove them into a shelf in his room.>>287975156The ultimate fusion of all the magic libraries. This is the foreshadowing that was from her interactions with Aradia.Also, damn. Dumbasses on reddit already bitching and whining about how the transcendents are back and how the new girl is dressed. Actual waste of oxygen retards.
>>287975597Surely Kamachi will stop making scantily dressed magic girls this time
>>287959798Floris should join Touma's harem
>>287970548Its literally exactly like how Accel was doing it when he was in his hero worship phase and got angry when Touma wasnt fixing everything.>Durrr Im a villian, youre the hero, youre supposed to save everyone waaaaaaaahLiterally the exact same shit. Except Accel's was actually somewhat justified thanks to him having a horrific past and doing some obscenely fucked up shit, so he couldnt see himself as anything other than a villian. While Shiage has people who love him and is living the good life and is now throwing a bitch fit over a fucking demon that refused to stop doing her bullshit despite multiple attempts to get her to see reason.God, fuck Shiage. He used to be alright, but hes being a fucking baby faggot right now.
>>287975597>Using reddit at allgross
>the Pokedex arc begins
>>287976110No no, now Hamahomo is finally making sense, he is a faggot surrounded by horny ladies who love him. Just like Kamisato before him he is in hell. His desire to destroy the world, neglect of his GF's gushing pussy and seething at god now makes perfect sense.
>>287968960Kamachi has to be reading 4chan threads for shitposting. What even.
>>287968086I don't like the swimsuit. Haimura has a done a lot swimsuit shit but compared to Aradia, Alice, and even pic related it isn't as visually striking and feels a bit out place.with the rest of her look.
It's time to admit the ever-increasing length of this series is working against it.There is no reason to take a guy whose character arc ended a long time ago and force him to act retarded to generate conflict.We shouldn't be revealing that the titular character had a secret sister 22 years into the series existence. You guys are whining about Hamazura and calling him a faggot when the one you should be criticizing is Kamachi for completely and utterly fucking up his character.
Narthdex helped take out Neph and Niang and would have been used to counter Alice if actually fought Coronzon directly
>>287976651Actually Hamazura is pretty consistent, he was always a whiny faggot.
>>287976651Kamachi talks about Hamazura in the afterword but in short he says as time goes on, people will change as they have time to think about things, regardless if those are positive or negative changes
>>287976679Anti-magic weapons are fucking broken in this series
>>287976236Touma has to catch them all in his harem to become the greatest librarian there ever was.>>287976679>>287976899Is there a bargain sale on beating Magic Gods? Might as well call them the Fodder Gods.
>>287976651Regarding Hamazura his character arc not only didn't end a long time ago but the things that are happening with him right now are downstream from events that occurred in late NT and early GT. Honestly, I don't think most people here actually care for his character and are just upset that he is a main character but opposing the heroes this time.Since the volume isn't in english yet I could be wrong but I do think that unlikely that Narthex is actually Index's blood related sister, and people are only calling her so due to the fact that they are both supposedly grimoire libraries made by coronzon.
>>287977042Please understand magic gods are kind.
>>287977049>the things that are happening with him right now are downstream from events that occurred in late NT and early GTHis story should've been concluded with the end of OT.
>>287977049I think Kamachi rightfully has wanted to do something new with Accelerator and Hamazura in GT, but he probably planned on that direction since about the middle of NT. The 2nd half of NT is where you start to see Hamazura become more fed up with things and Accelerator try to act more mature about what he did, and that’s extremely evident for both by NT22. Some have said Kamachi didn’t know what to do with Hamazura after WW3 and that’s probably true, that’s why he decided on that new direction for him in the following arc. Hell, the 2nd half of NT even started with him having a conflict with Touma
>>287975597>and how the new girl is dressedYes, she should be undressed instead
>>287976651>There is no reason to take a guy whose character arc ended a long time ago and force him to act retarded to generate conflict.He was showing signs of this shit 20 novels ago.>We shouldn't be revealing that the titular character had a secret sister 22 years into the series existence.It was referenced about a decade ago.>You guys are whining about Hamazura and calling him a faggot when the one you should be criticizing is Kamachi for completely and utterly fucking up his character.Im criticizing you for being a retard.
>Index Librorum Prohibitiorum>Narthex Coded Cathedral
>>287968179Man Literally worst version of this one
>turns out Transcendents can't actually solo the magic side
Birdway wants to recruit Narthex as leverage against the Anglican Church
>>287977644>Birdway backstabs Touma for political leverageKino
>>287977741>Another opportunity for Touma to punch a little girlKino
>>287970548That is how most character view him
>>287968179I thought Hamazura has already learned that he should not try fighting Touma in melee without proper equipment, yet here we are.
Really don’t know why some retards think the transcendents are the bane of this series. I genuinely enjoy their existence far more than a majority of other magicians and science side members.
>>287977943He needs one of those if he really wants to win
>>287973165Takitsubo should have him Tied to a bad sucking him dry while demanding him to explain himself
>>287977984I believe they’re getting uppity over [magic girl dressed like a slut]As far as factions go they’ve turned out quite a bit better than most and Kamachi not writing them out of the story like Gremlin is a good thing
>>287976651If Hamazura didn't leverage suicide in his genius homo strategy and instead just magdumped Touma on the spot for literally any reason including "this bitch denied my demon pussy", I'd say "based" and call it a day. But if he insists on gay suicide pact I will call him for what he is, a raging faggot.
>>287977255>Some have said Kamachi didn’t know what to do with Hamazura after WW3 and that’s probably trueI don't exactly buy it. I feel like his current fate was sealed back in NT1 when he decided to help Fremea pulling him back into the fight.Plus you can tell that Kamachi charted quite a bit ahead by Birdway's dialogue in NT2.
>>287977984They aren't bad and they are solid proof that kamachi didn't need to nerf nearly every magician after their arc. If Alice can around being a magic god level fighter then surely Knight Leader can have Hrunting while he is in England. Also some people get salty that they stick around when {insert character} gets a cameo every 7 years
>>287977160Will Crowley still on top? that could never work
>>287978106Touma would still get up, punch him in the face, call him faggot, and then finally fall due to blood lossBut yeah, it would look a lot better for Hamazura compared to his bitch boy suicide attempt
>>287968864I mean you can say what you want but it works. If I was I lost a fight and about to get talk-no-jutsu'ed by a guy that the entire world moves around i would also off myself to deny him the satisfaction of being the one who "fixed it". It's peak pettiness, I kinda like it. It sucks that he is so irresponsible that he leaves his gf and friends for what is essential an existential crisis over a demon. Interested in what Moog and co think about this Also Kekine when?
>>287978014>[magic girl dressed like a slut]???????????? all magesluts are dressed like magesluts, even nuns often have obscene modifications to their attire, this is a feature from volume one with Index being the sole exception, which is in no small part the reason why she is universally despised, if mageslut bodies and dressing habits are not up someone's alley they can just read something else instead.
>>287978168>i would also off myself to deny him the satisfaction of being the one who "fixed it"faggot
>>287968864How many times has Kamachi had someone try to weaponize their own suicide? Just offhand I can think of Kyousuke, Karuta and Jack and Shinobu kind of did it twice.
>>287978173>why she is universally despisedNot at all
>>287978130Tsuchi made it eventually, so Hamazura potentially could too. You just need to be prepared to cut ties with everyone and ignore the problems your friends might find themselves in, including the world ending threats.
can I get a definitive list of touma-sexuals?
>>287978363I can’t list almost 20,000 different sisters
>>287978363AcceleratorIppotsukoSuzushina Yuriko
>>287976110difference is Shiage doesn't see himself as the villain
>>287978467Well, he isn't one.
>Aneri rams a truck into Stiyl and it explodesJesus Christ
>>287978575Aneri is too based for Bitchzura
>>287978575ARRRGGGHHH KANZAKI HELP ME, IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN
>>287978173>Index being the sole exceptionAnon, Index wore no bra under that walking church outfit.After Touma ruined it, she still wore no bra while patching her scattered nun habit with clips.She’s also a slut like every one else
>>287976685>he was always a whiny faggot.this
>>287978835she doesn't need one
>>287978575KEK
Risk 4 Mary vs Blodeuwedd ends up with a ton of fallen angels being summoned
>>287977430>He was showing signs of this shit 20 novels ago.He shouldn't have been getting any screentime 20 novels ago dipshit. This character wore out his welcome by time OT was over. Retards like you have just grown so accustomed to him being shit and a communal punching bag that you just point your finger at the character himself and not the writer who continuously recycles him. I remember people acted like the Kamisato arc was the worst thing in the world but at least Kamisato fucked off from the story when his time was up. The "three protagonists" idea was a mistake.
>Hamazura gets access to an orbital Railgun named the Morningstar Too easy, level 5
>>287979196>I-I know I was retarded and Im embarassed that anon pointed out that Im too much of an illiterate retard to pick up on the most basic of story beats, but my fragile ego cant handle this so Im going to triple down and lash out in a retarded attempt to save faceCry harder faggot, maybe read the series next time instead of skimming wiki pages.
>>287979196Actually, it's a prime time for Kamisato's return.Fiamma's as well
at least Hamazura didn’t take the easy way by cooperating with Narthex
>Lessar confides that she has a small amount of demon linage, supposedly five generations ago.>She doesnt bring it up because cabals would come after her if they knew.>She refers to it as "the great A of shame on her family"
>>287978363Othinus > powergap > Misaki >= Aleister > Shocking Pink > powergap > Aleister > insurmountable powergap > Alice > Anna >= 10032 > most of the sisters > Index > powergap > Itsuwa > Kanzaki >= Seria >= Fukiyose >= Komoe >= Mikoto > powergap > Will > Aradia > Lessar > Ayu >= Leivinia > Maidono > Himegami > bigger half of current Tokiwadai > Remea > Female Knight >= Orsola > Kuroko honorable mentions go to Accelerator, High priest & little sister Enshuu, this list is also missing about 5-8 literally who girls and plain sluts
>>287979298>someone in Lessar’s managed to get the demon dick/pussyHamazura’s role model
>>287979298I knew this bitch was a semen demon
>>287979263Yeah I figured you'd fold like a lawn chair and dodge the issue. No one can really defend Hamazura existing past WW3 so, as the adult in the room, I will forgive your inability and incompetence in this matter.
>>287979298explains the tail and lust for Touma's semen
>>287979317>Aleister twice
>>287979354That was her U.K. patriotism acting
>>287979345>n-no I won-I know its hard for you to read, but I told youto stop LARPing like you read the series. Nobody cares that you got embarassed for being exposed
>>287979226>Mikoto has the weakest Railgun in the settingnooo... oh no oh nonono NOT LIKE THIS MIKOTOBROS NOT LIKE THIS
>>287979298>She refers to it as "the great A of shame on her family"Abbadon?
>>287979387>gifstill weaker than Spinzaku btw
>>287979355Yes, it depends entirely on his metal during the day.
>>287979382Keep dodging the issue, bitch. As I said, you know you can't defend the point so you're just playing the usual "you don't read" card that every retard pulls out when someone criticizes a story they like. The only embarrassment I feel is for your parents who spawned you.
>>287979410mental*, it seems that my N key has seen a bit too much use.
>>287979317Kuroko shouldn’t be in this list
>>287979427between like and dislike, its like.
>>287979406Spinzaku is an attack, Spinkoto is a death wobble.
>Satanael gets summoned and Touma is going nuclear over the possibility of the paperwork getting lostYou’re getting held back kid, it’s over
>>287979371just an excuse to shag an actual demon slayer
>>287979413>k-keep dodging-Im criticizing you because you implied that these things happened out of nowhere when they, infact, did not.>n-no I didntYes you did, you framed the Index "sister" as being out of left field just like with Shiage. Cute how you dropped that part really fucking quick to try to twist it into asspain over Shiage.As for your backpedal, Shiage was just fine in NT. He served his role and had some good interactions with Touma, and then became embroiled in the Lola conflict just fine. Youre asspain about it doesnt make it bad. There is no "point" to defend because you are just crying and shitting your diaper over it. By your logic, 99.99999% of the characters shouldnt show up again ever because "their initial character arc concluded". What an utterly retarded argument.Now, go read the fucking novels instead of LARPing. Or just fuck off entirely, that would be better.
>>287979490If back to the Bongladesh spoiler is real, Touma is done for.
>>287979490>he’s going to have to call Misaka and Misaki “classmates”fuck…
>>287979298>>287979399Might be Astaroth
You know, Hamazura could have tried the Da'ath route first before thinking Coronzon was really dead
>>287979298I actually don’t know if this is real or not but it’s funny so I’ll choose to believe it
>>287979413>you're just playing the usual "you don't read" card that every retard pulls out when someone criticizes a story they likeNo, some faggots just dont read and then pretend that they did
>Osiris summoned>Fallen angels summonedWhat is Kamachi getting at?
>“Are you kidding me? If the airport gets destroyed whats going to happen to my documents??”While he says this, Blodeuwedd has summoned about half a dozen named fallen angels and Mary is using risk 4 while tearing them in half
Shes another Index, isnt she?
>>287979490>>287979518>Japanese school year ends in late March and new one begins in April80~ ish days left till his ass is gaped, this might actually happen.
>>287979577she is a 545, if all Headcrabs are 545s then yes at least in spirit.
>>287979298>unconsciously attracted to Touma because he can purify herKino
>>287979625he purifies gods, with demons the conversation is much shorter.
>>287979501>Yes you did, you framed the Index "sister" as being out of left field just like with Shiage.I never said it was out of left field. You just conjured that idea up on your own, because it's easier to make up arguments for people you disagree with than actually addressing their issues. I guess you're hung up on my usage of the word "secret", which is factual as multiple characters didn't know of her existence. And it dodges the actual point which is that such a character is a symptom of a series going on for too long, whether she was foreshadowed or not is irrelevant. Curious that you didn't even address that. >As for your backpedal, Shiage was just fine in NT. Notice how you don't say he's fine in GT. Because he's not. He's an active detriment to the story. Listen closely: I do not give a single fuck that his current retardation was set up 20 volumes ago. I simply do not care. Get that through your thick skull. Do you even hear yourself, defending a bad character because his awfulness was setup a while ago? If someone tells you they're going to shit on your carpet in 5 years and then they actually do it, you're gonna say it's fine huh?>By your logic, 99.99999% of the characters shouldnt show up again ever because "their initial character arc concluded".No this isn't by my logic, this is by your insane shitposter logic. I am open to characters returning, just not in ways that make them a detriment to the story and disparage what good moments they had, if any. Your entire argument is "X was foreshadowed therefore X cannot be criticized" and I'm afraid I can't agree with such a mentally ill approach to consuming fiction. And I guarantee that whatever dogshit you reply with will STILL not be able to offer a justification for Hamazura existing past WW3.
epilogue spoiler doko
>>287979345>No one can really defend Hamazura existing past WW3I can. He is there to show what a Level 0 without special powers and abilities can actually do given the resources.Actually, yeah, I see the vision. Kamachi should've retired Hamazura and Rikou and replaced him with Saten at NT1.
>>287979518Aren't they 2 years behind Touma? He would have to get held back another for them to catch up. Which surely wouldn't happen right? Haha...
>>287979833They can skip grade while he’s getting held back
>>287979796>He is there to show what a Level 0 without special powers and abilities can actually do given the resources.The problem is that said resources are always conveniently falling into his lap. In the very first volume of NT gets dragon rider handed to him on a silver platter. He is not a resourceful or smart character, it just so happens that the tools he needs to resolve any given situation appear before him when he needs it.
>>287979501>By your logic, 99.99999% of the characters shouldnt show up again ever because "their initial character arc concluded"BTW, the one this relates to the most is Touma. He originally peaked at OT22 and then his direction became aimless until NT9-10.
>>287979796Hamazura isn't a level 0 without special powers and abilities though. If anything he has one of the strongest powers in the setting.
Why did Hamazura’s gun miraculous fail to fire though? Didn’t he say the world’s “system” wasn’t on the side of people like him?
>>287979413>Mikotochimp chimping out againYesterday it was about a dead thread, today it is about Kamachi writing his story however he wants and not how you want.You are only here to throw shit at people, aren't ya?
>>287979665>that such a character is a symptom of a series going on for too long, whether she was foreshadowed or not is irrelevant. Nta but this is one of the most retarded things Ive ever seen and is entirely hinging upon your arbitrary definition of "too long"
>>287979925Dion could easily stop his gun from firing. Right now AC is getting swarmed by high tier mages who could do that and more.
>>287979954>Mikoto mentioned absolutely nowhere in the conversationYou are shadowboxing. Literally seeing ghosts. Seek help, preferably a therapist but an exorcist would also suffice.
>>287979855I fail to see how luck is a problem? If anything, it's a feature. Also it's not like it makes him all-powerful, if anything Fremea stuff past NT1 made it clear how powerless is he to do anything but support stuff others could do as well, while the heavy lifting is on those that were gifted a power.>He is not a resourceful or smart character,That is obviously incorrect though.
>>287970290Would Touma's afterlife experience even help her? Wasn't the whole twist of that volume that the "Hell" Touma went through was a fake one made by JVA to facilitate his escape from the afterlife?
>Coronzon left something inside Hamazura>Kanzaki is worried that a similar situation to World Rejector could happen with Hamazura if a Coronzon religion forms, since he’s now strongly associated with the image of Coronzon
>>287979925One of three possibilities. Either he is incorrect about himself not being blessed, the "system" decided that his death like that would be bad for the "system", or he actually got extremely unlucky.
>>287979665>I guess you're hung up on my usage of the word "secret", which is factual as multiple characters didn't know of her existence.And you framed this in a negative light as though you cant introduce new characters in a story even though it was literally foreshadowed. Your entire "argument" can be applied to any work of fucking fiction that foreshadows something and then introduces it later. That you point at something so fucking commonplace in stories as """""""""""proof""""""""""""" that the series "has gone on too long" is outright moronic.>Curious that you didn't even address that.I literally did. I am saying, to your face, that that line of thinking is absolutely pants on head retarded and entirely contingent on your arbitrary definition of "too long".>Notice how you don't say he's fine in GT.He is fine in GT. Someone being a fag doesnt make the narrative a "detriment". Accel was acting like a faggot back in OT. He wasnt a "detriment">Listen closely: I do not give a single fuck that his current retardation was set up 20 volumes ago. I simply do not care. Get that through your thick skull. I understand that youre embarrassed that you got caught not actually reading and are backpedaling.>Do you even hear yourself, defending a bad characterYour opinion is worth less then a cockroach's fart, you LARPing shiteater.>If someone tells you they're going to shit on your carpet in 5 years and then they actually do it, you're gonna say it's fine huh?Of course youre so retarded that you resort to false equivalence. If someone said a character in a story is going to take a shit on someone's carpet in 5 years and then they do, I wouldnt blubber and cry about it as proof that the "story went on too long".>No this isn't by my logic,It is.>Your entire argument is "X was foreshadowed therefore X cannot be criticized"No, my argument was that you were acting like this was out of left field (you were until I shit on you for it). This is objectively wrong.
>Hamazura was described by Aiwass previously as a person who became a hero in order to protect the only person around him>in fact, this was spot on >he only cares about his own side and not the wider world, in his eyes he could only see that Coronzon protected him and helped him England
>>287979665>If someone tells you they're going to shit on your carpet in 5 years and then they actually do it, you're gonna say it's fine huh?What the FUCK does this have to do with narrative integrity???
>>287979997>replying to falseflag>think its the same anon
>>287980013Well the thing Touma went into was actually capable of revival so it is a usefull spell regardless. The main issue is that Jobberzone has her own domain, unless Touma straight up deleted "Choronzon" from existence she is not in hell, she is in the butthole of existence known as Daath. In fact if she somehow shows up in hell it either means that Abyss/Daath as a whole got fucked beyond repair, which oh boy, has consequences or that demon mechanics work quite a bit differently in to-aru.
>>287980013Coronzon was that laughing voice in GT12, she likely saw what was happening in hell and that’s when she created the backup plan to try and do the same thing I guess
>teleporter that isnt Awaki or Kuroko mentioned
>>287979665But he isn't a detriment to the story. You just don't like where the story is going.You not liking a thing doesn't make it bad though.
>>287980116>he only cares about his own side and not the wider world, in his eyes he could only see that Coronzon protected him and helped him EnglandHe keeps monologuing as if he has fully cared about the wider world though. The end of GT14 was the peak of that
>>287980116That used to be spot on. The problem of Hamazura is that he decided to be the hero for more and more people until it crushed him, so he reached for the solution that Coronzon was giving.
>>287980304That’s just him projecting his own misery
>>287980316>The problem of Hamazura is that he decided to be the hero for more and more people until it crushed himThisHe took more than he could chew
>>287980304What are the chances Lola left a single hair somewhere in his brain and it is now influencing his behavior?
>>287980335unlikely.This was just the accumulation of what he went through from NT to GT.He's not Touma or Accel.He sees the world very differently
>>287980095>And you framed this in a negative light as though you cant introduce new characters in a story even though it was literally foreshadowed. The author can introduce all the characters he wants. But when a character is just a reskin of a character we already know, I'm free to say the story is spinning its wheels. A lazy addition is still lazy regardless of foreshadowing. Deal with it. >He is fine in GT. He absolutely isn't. Honestly the fact that you are sitting here defending Hamazura of all characters is the biggest red flag and indicator that the person I'm conversing with is not right in the head. His dialogue is shit. His serious scenes are shit. His comedy scenes are shit. No one has ever looked back on a Hamazura scene as their favorite part of a novel. He is a charisma void. Whenever the PoV switches to him, people sigh and complain. This is not a simple case of "him being a fag" you mongoloid. There are numerous characters who qualify as misguided fags at some point that weren't actively horrible. >I understand that youre embarrassed that you got caught not actually reading and are backpedaling.Keep repeating this, I'm sure it'll come true when you say it the millionth time.>Your opinion is worth less then a cockroach's fart, you LARPing shiteater.If it's worth nothing, why have you engaged with me for this long? It's worth your time, at least. I know you will spend time typing up a response to this post as well, despite its alleged worthlessness. >It is.It isn't. >No, my argument wasYour argument was that something is free from criticism if it's foreshadowed. Plain and simple. Keep running around in circles.Also still waiting for that justification for Hamazura's existence past WW3. I expect the next wall of text you provide me with will still dodge this demand.
>>287980252false spoiler until actual name is given
>>287980193>333d post>Lola imagenice
>>287980368So what you are saying is that he breaks easily.
>>287980470You could say so.Putting it in another way, Accel and Touma are so mentally tough
>>287980395>Whenever the PoV switches to him, people sigh and complain.You mean voices in your head?
>>287980492Nah, almost everything went Hamazura's way, he has everything he needs and more. A few missteps and tumbles shouldn't cause one to support the ruination of the world.
I like Hamazura in OTI don't really care about him in NT but he still has his momentsHe's a complete fucking niggerfaggot in GT and Kamachi should just fucking retire this blonde retard permanently
>>287980470>>287980492I don't think it's a problem with the toughness of the mentality, but rather what they see as the core underlying problem.
>>287973436Did you forget the thorn crown?
Narthex is the mastermind, she’s actually behind a lot of the events in the volume, including controlling the Amakusa and almost getting Mary beheaded
>>287980552The opposite for me. Shiage's unraveling is the most entertaining his character has ever been. It would be neat if he actually magdumped Touma instead of his gay sudoku routine but otherwise its great. The more people are actively trying to push Touma out of his comfy larp zone the better.
>>287980552For me I’m actually way more interested in him in GT, he was doing absolutely nothing in NT until NT22 which is why this is all happening
>>287980588Headcrab wishes she could be this competent
>>287980614Headcrab is magic artillery, masterminding is not her job.
>>287959798it's a day later now, did anything happen?
>>287980625Index can be very competent when the story let's her, remember her fight against Bastet in that SS?
>>287980538Okay, and what does Hamazura wants to achieve by "the ruination of the world"? I feel like you're delibirately confusing the method and the goal.
>>287980685Hamazura came out as gay dickslurping fruitcake. Touma is staying for another year. Index has a family. Lessar is a demon. Mikoto has weakest Railgun in the setting.
>>287980705Judging by his suicide attempt, he wants to escape responsibility.
>>287980729>Hamazura came out as gay dickslurping fruitcakebut he's sucking Coronzon's cunt even now
>>287980700>20 years>one moment of competence >its in SSShe can summon a lot of laser arrows from the sky, she also has several laser beams of different flavors one of them can even take out an orbiting satellite all the way from the ground. This is strong and usefull.
>>287980742>judging by a barebones spoiler of a volume not yet translated it's something unrelated to actually given explanation in the past two volumesYou're hallucinating, bro.
>>287980395>long winded rant on how something that was foreshadowed and slowly built up is actually le bad and this somehow means the story went on too longYea, youre supremely retarded and literally just keep repeating your dipshit take as if its fact. Were done here.
>>287980749Its but means to get what he really wants, the dick. In the perfect world Coronzon promised him he would be drowning in it.
Meanwhile, /our/ chairman is grasping popcorn while watching all this shit
>>287980804babydarling who are you green texting? His desire for destruction of the world is also based in this desire of his to escape the responsibility. A wish for magic bullet is always an admission of incompetence.
>>287980826Accel would not be amused by this situation, rather than popcorn he is probably trimming his nails with his teeth. He needs to let LO in so he can hug her and vent a bit.
>>287980786That's why she needs to be cucked by the remote controllers
>>287980858>babydarlingIs this the zoomer version of blue hair millenial women trying to be condescending?
>>287980810>We're done here.Good to hear, hope your impending suicide is successful unlike Hamazura's attempt.
Gentlemen, what do think about the potential scenario of more libraries going after Kamijou Touma's life for the sake of their beloved mother Coronzon?
>>287980895No it is an impression of a pimp talking to an overstepping whore.
>>287980729>Mikoto has weakest Railgun in the setting.If she used anything but an arcade coin it would be the strongest.
is touma for mikito?
>>287980927You have no idea how much I want this spoiler to be true. Pokedex arc will be godlike.
Narthex’s ability is honestly as broken as imagine breaker, holy right and world rejectorIt’s not that she just stops magic, she can basically seal memories and make people forget how to use spells. And it isn’t limited to magic, it can be used against espers as well. It’s said that Coronzon may have won if she had utilized her but had some mental hang ups over using her
>>287980974>mikitowho?
>>287980984If this is true, I can't wait to see how the French and German one will live up to this
>>287980984This sounds so stupidly broken that I'm starting to believe this spoiler is true.
>>287980858>His desire for destruction of the world is also based in this desire of his to escape the responsibility.Cool. So, is it that you got no reading comprehension or you have never actually read the books, like other anon said?
Narthex is the one who took Touma’s document KEKIt’s time to institute total headcrab death
>>287981062>spoilerEven if they are raised different, their code of action is still hurting him, I see
>>287981059If you are incapable of understanding the psychological mechanics behind the desire for magic bullet and their extremely direct connection to suicide, I am afraid there is nothing for me to do.
More importantly, did Touma get it back or not?
>>287981062So she truly is Touma greatest enemy
No one would ever believe the shit happening in the climaxWhat do you mean Touma and Hamazura are fighting on a spaceship while Hamazura’s grand plan to escape AC is to get shot out of orbit by the Railgun and ride it down to earth?
>>287981193wait does that meanTouma was freefalling down to some unknown place on Earth after he knocked Hamazura out
>>287981193So Touma got shot out of AC? Also was Hamazura planing to take Takitsubo with him or did he just forget she exists?
>Aneri learned Touma’s fighting patterns and starts telling Hamazura exactly when to dodge, punch etc. to win
>>287981243fucking AI pulled an Amata
Now is the prime time for the true 4th hero to come back
Why the FUCK did this not get an illustration KnT takes over his body, it’s the one thing Aneri couldn’t possibly account for
>>287981260That always her style
>>287981356OUR HEROTHE TRUE FANBOY & UNDERSTANDER
>>287981356Yeah no I don't believe it one bit
>>287981392Yeah it sounds fun but Kamachi has a power-up allergy so it's obviously false
Hamazura tanks 100 million volts in the spaceship after a high voltage wire gets cut, this is before their final clash btw
what is big G’s agenda in protecting Hamazura despite doing fuck all before
>>287981463>despite doing fuck all before>implyingglass shards, slipping Accelerator, Lola not instantly killing a monkey, MG summon and pretty much everything that has happened to Hamazura in the last 6 months.
>>287978402>I can’t list almost 20,000 different sistersI got you.10032 10033 10034 10035 10036 10037 10038 10039 10040 10041 10042 10043 10044 10045 10047 10048 10049 10050 10051 10052 10053 10054 10055 10056 10057 10058 10059 10060 10061 10062 10063 10064 10065 10066 10067 10068 10069 10070 10071 10072 10073 10074 10075 10076 10077 10078 10079 10080 10081 10082 10083 10084 10085 10086 10087 10088 10089 10090 10091 10092 10093 10094 10095 10096 10097 10098 10099 10100 10101 10102 10103 10104 10105 10106 10107 10108 10109 10110 10111 10112 10113 10114 10115 10116 10117 10118 10119 10120 10121 10122 10123 10124 10125 10126 10127 10128 10129 10130 10131 10132 10133 10134 10135 10136 10137 10138 10139 10140 10141 10142 10143 10144 10145 10146 10147 10148 10149 10150 10151 10152 10153 10154 10155 10156 10157 10158 10159 10160 10161 10162 10163 10164 10165 10166 10167 10168 10169 10170 10171 10172 10173 10174 10175 10176 10177 10178 10179 10180 10181 10182 10183 10184 10185 10186 10187 10188 10189 10190 10191 10192 10193 10194 10195 10196 10197 10198 10199 10200 10201 10202 10203 10204 10205 10206 10207 10208 10209 10210 10211 10212 10213 10214 10215 10216 10217 10218 10219 10220 10221 10222 10223 10224 10225 10226 10227 10228 10229 10230 10231 10232 10233 10234 10235 10236 10237 10238 10239 10240 10241 10242 10243 10244 10245 10246 10247 10248 10249 10250 10251 10252 10253 10254 10255 10256 10257 10258 10259 10260 10261 10262 10263 10264 10265 10266 10267 10268 10269 10270 10271 10272 10273 10274 10275 10276 10277 10278 10279 10280 10281 10282 10283 10284 10285 10286 10287 10288 10289 10290 10291 10292 10293 10294 10295 10296 10297 10298 10299 10300 10301 10302 10303 10304 10305 10306 10307 10308 10309 10310 10311 10312 10313 10314 10315 10316 10317 10318 10319 10320 10321 10322 10323 10324 10325 10326 10327 10328 10329 10330 10331 10332 10333 10334 10335 10336 10337 10338 10339 10340 10341 10342 10343 10344 10345 10346 10347
If there is any spoiler about Touma’s buff, you can safely ignore it as they are false because Kamachi is a contrarian who hates power-up
>>287980980>Pokedex archeh
>>287981610I hit limit10358 10359 10360 10361 10362 10363 I give up.
>>287981618Touma has been willingly using dragons for a while now.
>>287980395Imagine trying this hard to justify your take when you were just too much of a brainlet to follow along the very simple and obvious plot progression. Couldnt be me.
It must have been a good volume if there are this many fake spoilers
>>287981719Despite what you might think, the KNT spoiler is real.
Hamazura accepts that Coronzon was evil but can’t fully forgive Touma for killing her, and can’t forgive himself for not doing more. Him and Touma get into a fist fight, Hamazura has the upper hand due to Aneri though, she’s fully learned how he fights and directs Hamazura how to win. But Touma starts to move in a way Aneri can’t predict, because KnT has taken over. He tells Aneri that he’s not as gentle as Touma, he’s the very power that destroys illusions after all, and that Hamazura can’t do anything for Coronzon, he’s just doing whatever he wants with no reason. He’s envisioning himself as some kind of badass for turning his back on justice, so he’ll shatter that illusion himself. KnT had taken over when Hamazura had seemingly KO’d Touma, so it wasn’t voluntary
Not believing it until js06 translates it
Imagine Breaker is not some loose hole anyone can crawl in and out
>>287981816>SP calling himself IB
I dont have any spoilers to share, I just wanted to be like the cool kids. Thanks for reading, I hope you have a nice day Anon :)
>>287981816>and can’t forgive himself for not doing moreI want this part to be true at leastAnon has been pointing out this exact problem for a while nowIt would also justify the other spoiler about Hamazura’s attempted suicide
>>287981976WHAT
>>287981976Don’t worryFalse spoilers are part pf /raildex/‘s cultureWe’re just having fun spitballing with you
>>287981976:)
>>287981976False and homosexual
>>287981976 I hope you have a nice day too anon
>Itsuwa is radioactive apparently
KNT tells Touma that he should stop holding back if he really wants to stop Hamazura, but if it’s justice he wants, he should leave it to the Magic Gods and Transcendants instead, since he’s just an ordinary high school boy. KNT debates throwing Hamazura out of the airlock to end it but decides not to, but Hamazura instead yells for Aneri to open it to kill Touma, but she can’t open it because she’s being isolated to his phone instead of full control of the spaceship. Hamazura tries to kill him another way by ripping equipment off the walls to electrocute him. Then he grabbed an iron pipe and slammed it on his head before they reached zero gravity, then they get into a huge argument over Coronzon
bbs GT15 discussion thread of our nip friendsThey also said about Narthex, God's system, and a "Kamijou" who did appear out of ToumaAlso, apparently, Kanzaki got a winhttps://bbs.animanch.com/board/6732857/
>>287982096forgot there are two threadsHere is the bigger onehttps://bbs.animanch.com/board/6732073/
>nips are literally, unironically, completely forcing the image of the savior machine on Touma and getting disappointed in him on their own in those discussion threadyou'd expect the main target audience of the novel to understand him better
>>287982096>Also, apparently, Kanzaki got a winThe most unbelievable spoiler of all
Every spoiler here sounds like it came from a fanfiction. Don’t know how to feel about that.
Hamazura may have been able to beat Touma, but KNT was too much who has a totally different fighting style, but Hamazura was unaware that KNT even existed of course. He admits that both him and Coronzon lost. He remembers Blodeuwedd saying that words don’t change society, and puts the gun to his head, and the whole suicide scene as described earlier in the thread. The spaceship ends up landing off the coast of Britain, Touma jokes he’d be okay with just living in Britain now. Birdway thinks Coronzon has more secrets she’s hidden than just Narthex and even more than just the other dexes, meanwhile Touma thinks Hamazura had an off look in his eyes and that his disregard for Takitsubo was strange.And that’s about where it ends, it’s a pretty open ending without any big bait for the next volume
>>287982359I feel the opposite. Fanfics wouldn't have given us all this Magic Side with the only espers at play being Hamazura and Takitsubo.
>>287982403>and that his disregard for Takitsubo was strange./awkward cough/
Kanzaki threatening and trying to kill people
>>287982514So she still hasn't recover from Fake News demon back from NT 20
This sounds a little bit more insane than your average volume which is funny considering the cover was bait again
>>287982403How can SP get out if IB is still there? Has Touma lost IB? when was the last time he negated anything?
>>287982403>Touma jokes he’d be okay with just living in Britain nowLessar won
>>287982627That’s a great question, a dragon didn’t come out so maybe there’s nothing to negate in this circumstance. But it’s strange that he referred to himself as the one who destroys illusions, shouldn’t that IB itself?
>>287982648Orsola is in Britain and if he wants proper citizenship he should just go for Remea.
>>287982654SP hates IB with seething hatred but he is also Touma. He can and will straight up like through his teeth if he is talking to an enemy.
>>287982677>likelie*
>>287982648Apparently he doesn’t have a passport on him so he won’t be let back into Japan, and then begs for them to take care of him in England since he fixed their problemSuffice to say, GT has been arguably more AC focused so far than even OT, and definitely compared to NT, so we’re due for several volumes of “Touma goes through hell in a foreign country”
>>287982577I feel most of the cover and half the synopsis either have nothing to do with what happens in the volume or even try to mislead you/
>>287982691>Touma goes through hell in a foreign country”This kills the "you can't do a spin off outside of AC" crowd
>>287982691Bongladesh is his second home at this point so it doesn't really count.
>>287982691>Apparently he doesn’t have a passport on him so he won’t be let back into JapanBoy are they getting lax about their DNA protections.
>>287982691Has Accel actually dropped Touma's VIP status?
>>287982403>>287982691I see, so this is how his school's problem is gonna get resolved>just fucking dumbed him to bonglanddamn it
>>287970572APOLOGIZENOW
>>287982904It doesn't resolve shit, if anything it guarantees he stays for another year.
>the seething asshole KnT/SP would come out if you try to kill Touma without triggering what's inside his arm>demon zoo would come out if you try to defeat Touma (or just piss him off) the supernatural wayKamachi is covering all bases
>>287983011SP is a worse fighter than a sufficiently pissed off Touma though.
>>287982473We haven't seen a single Takitsubo spoiler so far despite her being featured in an illustration.Isn't it amazing?
>>287983032I think we shouldn't use their brawl in NT22R as reference.That's just the compability between fighting styles which gives Touma an edge.
>>287975945Never happening so long as Lessar's around to be a super skank.Floris can just join my harem instead. Her complaining is cute. I'll fuck her hard while she complains at me until she stops complaining because she can hardly breathe.
>Touma is gonna be a kept man>even begged them for itIf only he was this self-aware with Misaka and Misaki...
>>287982967That's still a resolutionalbeit a sad one
>>287983104Nah, even when piloting the shell Touma showed much more prowess and animalistic behavior compared to SP. Touma is a natural menace when he gets loose. SP is more logical and contained. The issue of compatibility is also there. Making Touma THAT pissed off is a challenge meanwhile SP is more than happy to flay everyone not named Touma. All in all SP would be crushed by Othinus but would easily dispatch 5000000 thugs with iron bats.
>>287983226>All in all SP would be crushed by Othinus but would easily dispatch 5000000 thugs with iron batsD-did Kamachi just give an answer to all people who complained "Why didn't they send non-supernatural fighters to beat Touma?"?
>>287979399Most likely just a reference to 'The Scarlet Letter' where a skank has to wear a red letter A to show that she's a skank
>>287982691So which bong faction would you want to see Touma live with temporarily? Royal Family, Anglicans, New Light, or Dawn-Colored Sunlight?
>>287983320Orsola's dorm but now without Headcrab to bother them. He needs to vent and relax.
>>287983320New Light obviouslyThey are very underutilised as a faction due to Lessar' screentime hogging
>>287983342>implying>when we just knew what Coronzon didThere will be a headcrab to bother him no matter where he goes
>>287983368I know right, that is the tease and fukouda of the situation. Touma thinks he scored a jackpot and then he gets the full Pokedex drooped on him.
>>287983320Birdway will kidnap him obviously
what’s gonna happen to Hamazura next?back to the cell?
>>287983443There is a good chance he is somewhat brainwashed so who knows.
The only person who can take care of Kamijou Touma in the U.K.They are even a native!
>a brawl in the orbitThat sounds familiar.Did Kamachi just rewatch Index movie?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl9bb8hYc38
Out of the loop here. Haven't read the recent novels. Why does Hamazura hate Touma now? What the fuck is his problem?
>>287983352>Touma calls Lessar/Birdway and informs them about where he's ended up.>Lessar sends NL to pick him up>Floris restarts her beef with Touma>Touma has to shack up with them for a few days until Lessar can get back to the UK>Domestic hilarity ensuesPlease Kamachi do it. It'd be so peak.
>>287983653Demon pussy denied so utterly he came out as a faggot. All faggots yearn Touma's fist, such is the way of life.
>>287981816>because KnT has taken overWhy does this feel like the setup for Reverse 2: Electric BoogalooI feel like the plot of the end of GT will be something like: Touma will get bodyjacked/position-switched the way that was said to happen in Reverse if he lost and will have to travel inside himself to understand what the fuck is going on with all the things he has inside to finally take control of his own ability that he didn't even know that existed until it went rogue on his ass
>>287984010But everything KnT did was for the sake of Touma.Even in this volume, provoking Hamazura and shitting on him were just so Touma could have the last laugh
>>287984140We don't know if it's for the sake of Touma or to survive because Hamazura was using AI hacks to win and if Touma croaks he croaks tooAnd even if he does something "for Touma," Reverse already showed that That Thing is unironically a psychopath that will manipulate others and use them as if they were disposable objects, so he could try to do something "for Touma" that Touma will never accept, forcing the kind of situation where Touma has to finally address everything that is going on with his ability instead of ignoring it or fighting against it directly because he's trapped inside of himself
>>287968179Hamazura doesn't even look like he's looking at Touma.
>>287982403>meanwhile Touma thinks Hamazura had an off look in his eyes and that his disregard for Takitsubo was strange.If it's true, Touma finally speaks my mind.It's really weird how utterly disregarded she was in these spoilers
To think this is happening just because of that one time Touma wished he could use IB better when facing Fiamma kek
>>287973680I would love flatzaki even more than bazookanzaki.
>>287984376>Touma wished he could use IB better when facing Fiamma kekWasn't it at the end of NT during the Jobberzone incident when he wished it?>That imageMaybe Touma will be able to use his Skyblue Dragon form even with IB in the future, because KnT could use it during their fight
>>287984422SP/KnT said it was during the war so definitely the Fiamma fight
I wish they landed on any other country instead of England.Like fuck, it was just said there might be other dexes in France or Germany but then the story had him stuck in England again?Not cool, Kamachi
>>287984532I don't mind going back to bongland since going to a new country would result in even more new characters being added to an already bloated cast
>>287984562>Implying that they won't introduce another ten new characters instead of using the old ones
>>287984776This volume literally uses old characters mostly with the exception of NarthexYou need to stop falling for the new character meme
>>287979317Agnes
>checked out the artist of those cool shocking pink & sky blue pics>https://x.com/Irokohaku>the guy only draws raildex sex nowa shameWould love to see his take on GT15 SPAlso, I didn’t know Index anime still does these lottery merch in the big 2026./raildex/ has warped my perception into thinking only Railgun anime gets these
>Index>Narthex>French Index>German IndexHow many other? Italy? China? India?
>>287985322>IndiaImagine if Kamachi dug deep into Mahabharata and Ramayana
>no Othinus in GT15>also no Othinus in GT16such misfortune
>>287984432It uses 戦争 in the meaning of big fight, not warAnd Othinus confirms that it didn't exist when she used IB to restore the world
We already know KnT has a short temper.He said he would come out himself even if Touma didn't choose to blow up his arm against CRC.I think he probably has had it enough with Hamazura this time.
>>287985322>Ouidex>Saardex
>>287985760It's said that they evolved, not devolved
>>287985367honestly I had half expected kamachi to try recreating kamiothi dynamic with hamazura and the dumb demonI'm glad that kamachi went with the "no, hamazura is an actual idiot" route afterall
*cough* *cough* Takitsubo spoiler... doko...
>>287985322>Index des livres interdits>Verzeichnis der verbotenen Bücher>Indice dei libri proibiti
Touma is still considered dead on paper btwHis parents is still unaware of his revival btw
>https://x.com/index_if_PR/status/2052947135453352352>gacha game that already reached EoS (to cover up for Square Enix's incompetence)>still uses the account to promote GT15Thanks for reminding me of my hatred for Square Enix, I guess
>>287985813However, even if it wasn't for Touma's sake, Hamazura still helped them defeat Narthex even though it would be way easier to just let her dissect Touma.I would say he has his own opinion about Coronzon and is determined to prove it.
>>287983068I have one for youShe tells Necessarius to put Hamazura on trial, that’s likely what’s going to happen in the next few volumes in the UK and why Touma isn’t going back to AC
>>287986019>She tells Necessarius to put Hamazura on trialLawyer Dion soon
>>287986019>Touma will stand up for Hamazura in court and say he was being brainwashed
>>287986036I mean, it wasn't exactly subtle His attempted suicide that completel disregarded people like Takitsubo, Dion, ITEM showed he wasn't normal at the moment
>>287986077>completel *completely
>>287984010A subplot this volume is that there’s a degree of truth to Hamazura saying Touma has changed, there’s quite a few times where Touma doesn’t even try to make an excuse for killing Coronzon and it may very well be that KNT is starting to influence him in a way that will call into question if it matters which one is in controlThat’s why I’ve seen a number of JP/CN readers say there’s a sense of something being a bit off with him to where some sections, Hamazura behaves more like Touma than Touma himself. He genuinely does not care that he killed Coronzon compared to him feeling a bit bad that he used the dragon king on CRCAlso btw Coronzon is 100% dead, Narthex has her empty husk of an avatar. Her plan was flawed from the start because after getting the details on hell she was gonna have Kingsford do the resurrection game but iirc she or CRC can’t do it anymore they said
>>287986126>she or CRC can’t do it anymore they saidIf anything, Narthex would be turned into an unwilling helper to fight the archdemons if she went there.
>>287986035I wonder if Dion will actually be put on trial with him since she’s a Coronzon creation
>>287986036>Accelerator trial for killing 10k clones got skipped>Get a Hamazura being a retard trial insteadfukou da...
>two of our MCs are prisoners now>the other is flunkingKamachi this is a bad example for children
Touma never forgets and never forgives what Lola did to Index. He still holds a grudge to this day
>>287986206Not a single MC of this franchise is a good example for childreneven Misaka breaks dorm rules all the time
Touma and KnT should take noteThis is how you co-exist and fight in harmony
Imagine Narthex's face when she learns Kingsford used up her revival to bring fucking Aleister of all people back
>meanwhile OthinusUnless her constant absence turns out to be some kind of 5d chess plot point she might genuinely be the most shafted character in the series relative to her supposed importance.
>>287986525Be patientWe're on the KnT taming arc
>no Misamisa>kino volume
>>287986634This has nothing to do with whether or not they appear in the volume.It always depends on Kamachi's mood.
>>287986565>We're on the KnT taming arcHonestly, I would expect that in any other LN at this point, but it's clear that Kamachi doesn't want Touma to get any kind of power up
>>287986745Kamachi recently let Touma be aware of his precog thoughThat's still a kind of power-up
New thread>>287986857
when does touma impregnate mental out
