Given that anime and manga are fundamentally different mediums, do you think studios should heavily modify or remove internal monologues to maintain cinematic pacing? I personally don't mind it, but I know many animeonlies find it jarring.
>>287997905Animeonlies should just shit themselves.
>>287997905I think if you aren't willing to alter scenes or even more when making an adaptation, then you're completely missing the point of film and animation as mediums and should stick to writing and drawingIt's not being faithful to the material to convert everything exactly as it was in the manga, it's failing to account fro the strengths and weaknesses of the medium you're adapting it to
>>287998006if you cut the monologue, how do you convey the character's complex internal logic without it feeling shallow?
>>287997905They removed the inner monologues from Goblin Slayer and completely killed the adaptation, they're the main appeal of the series.
>>287997905A bigger difference is Light Novels and AnimeSo this is the big Litmus test:Monogatari series, which is the better adaptation: Bakemonogatari or Kizumonogatari?Since it tackles exactly what you're talking about
>>287997905depends entirely on what series you're talking about, what a pointless querry. it's okay to remove the monologues in jujutsu kaisen because the plot is shit and people just want to see the action
>>287997905no way
>>287998152That's why you never try adapt something like this to begin with. Great directors knew which works would work well as an anime, and not only that, they also chose works they felt could be improved.
>>287999647We can tell your idea is flawed when you have to throw up your hands and just give up.
>>287999647isn't the mark of a truly great director the ability to take something 'unfilmable' and find a new visual language?
>>287998006Only applies to novels that have to use descriptions instead of visuals to convey information for manga a one to one adaption is best.
>>287998152You don't just cut the monologue, you change the scene to work without itOr you shorten the monologue, and put half of the information relavent to understanding it in previous scenesOr whateverCome on, this isn't hard, you just need to recognise there's more than one way to skin a cat and pick the teick that works for the context you're working with
>>288000148>>288000148No not at allPacing and timing are completely different between film and page, even if the page has pictures on it
>remove monologues>remove all fun minor/background scenes>"shoot" popular scenes in a slightly different way than the manga portrays them just to be different, with varying quality of results>poorly portray facial expressions despite having them literally on panel in the manga, and so ruin scenes relying on them>make jokes less funny by not having an understanding of pacingJust call me anime-auteur /a/non. I think I'm ready for Mappa or David Productions to give me millions of dollars to make their next hit anime.
>>288000255what's the point of an anime if you are just doing a 1:1?
>>288000598Providing an alternative medium with voice acting, motion, music, sound effects.
>>288000598The issue is people like you see no middle ground between something being a 1:1 and being so different to the point where it might as well not even be considered an adaptation. There are some things that need to change between mediums but directors with inflated egos make way more changes than are necessary or that actually add to what they're making to justify their existences or to "improve" the source material. You can be creative while not butchering what you're adapting. But that requires actually being good at your job. It's much easier to just throw the manga out the window and make your own bullshit. And animefags are none the wiser.
>>287997905The Narrator and monologues in Chimera Ants worked pretty well.
>>288001163I’m talking about technical changes (like fixing pacing and monologues) so it doesn't feel like a slide-show.>>288001217i don't agree.
>>287997905Monogatari proves that any form of lingering speech can be made super interesting to watch. In the end, with fiction, you really just want to learn more about the world and watch things happen. Dialogue and monologue are just as capable as action at achieving this. Animation enhances them beyond the source material because you can have all sorts of interesting visuals going on while you listen. Not too different than a conversation with your imouto or falling for brown bait on this site. You'll find that anime is a thriving and multifarious art form once you move past the little boy shows hood weebs and latinks spam everywhere. Everytime you doubt the Japanese, second guess yourself.
