They uploaded the Torishima interview now. He says Oda is too in love with One Piece. Do you agree with him?
>>288029054Sanji WON
>>288029054
>>288029054Can't believe he openly dissed MHA and Horikoshi, literally calling him out as a sellout bootlicker.
>>288029122Which manga doesn't he hate? He even shits on db
>>288029140He doesn't dare to say anything against Tezuka, and, at least I did not see any examples, against Nagai.
>>288028951The irony of saying this in a general that can take three days to whimper to bump limit, where threads completely die the instant another one is made because only one person consistently posts in them.>>288029101And your chart is never gonna catch on because it's a visual mess of shit that only makes sense to you.Learn 2 edit.
>>288029101Pretty funny
>>288029054NAMI-SWANNN
>>288029054ROBIN - CHWANNN
>>288029200>>288029212Robin>>>>>>>>>>Nami
Amazon Pre Order:Digital / PhysicalAkane-Banashi 22 #230 / #479Witch Watch 26 #257 / #658Nue's Exorcist 15 #620 / #1,927Shinobi Undercover 8 #1,545 / #3,962Kinato's Magic 1 #23,032 / #65,543Gonron Egg 2 #26,164 / #95,936Hero Girl and Demon Lord Call It Quits 2 #27,276 / #98,671Hero Girl and Demon Lord Call It Quits 3 #27,277 / #98,672The Mage Next Door 2 #29,634 / #70,147Under Doctor 1 #29,635 / #90,593The Mage Next Door 3 NA / #89,548Gonron Egg 3 NA / #173,829KINATO WON
>>288029285Unordered doctor...
>>288029285Basketball Deku and Roku will fill the two bottom spot in ToC soon. They're the real cushions of WSJ.Basically under Saito's rule:>New series that has potential to low-diff Kiyoshit: Bottom 5 material>New series that has no potential to low-diff Kiyoshi: Bottom 3 materialSince Gonron, Osoegawa and JK Yuusha gone, UD, Kiyoshi and AH became the new cushions. But it will soon change with Roku and Basketball Deku. And maybe Sorachi, it seems his new manga isn't received well.
>>288029294Nami-san's CUM
Another week of dr stone at the top of jump animeAnother week of one piece elbaf doing worse than akanebanashi,kill blue and rerun of mha's finale
>>288029363>akane anime performs around the same as axed manga anime kill blue>cuckshit like MHA and rental girlfriend is there as wellThat explains it.
The KINO we LOST
>>288029442Final stretch of the mangaGotta insert as many of his fetishes as possible
Real talk, is there any hope left for AH to survive?
>>288029363What garbage fucking site is this where botan, the clear winner of the season, is nowhere here?
>>288029462No, that's why last chapter was rushed as fuck. I'm going to laugh if AH volume sells more than UD
>>288029463? It's at 31 isn't it
>>288029463holy mother of shit taste
>>288029442>Editors and saito are unable to use ah as some kind of PragmataWhy are editors so bad these days? It should be the easiest job
I don't think the kinato author put in a lot of thought in the setting or characters before starting the manga.. It's so haphazard and directionless compared to ud and ah. With AH you can tell he had a lot planned out which helped tell a tight story even with the accelerated pace due to cancellation. Kinato doesn't know what it wants to do.
>>288029970Yeah he probably thought he could improvise after 2 chapters but no. You need at least 15 chapters thought out before hand, a lore, structure, etcWhich editors should help but they don't do shit these days >Under DoctorWhile not as directionless as Kinato, it still feels too random, like a poorer SD. Last chapter is just too desperate
>>288029787I'm not the only one who think so. All nips do.
>>288030111Except they don't. Only those who have shit taste do.
>>288030185>Seethes when the op is about ichi or jjkfags read other series
>>288030185rudoblud thinks he's on the team
kekmagazine....
RIP
This definitely isn't true
This one looks cool >>288030688I'm gonna miss them, specially ah
Shoseki?
>>288030864Sukunasister stop cursing manga
People on Xwitter surprised about 0 girls in KGB top 10.What did they expect from a fujofandom?
>>288031300They bought the feminist meme. It should be to no one surprise because hackazono can't draw women and none of them are relevant.
>>288031334Good, he should make a normal shounen next time since he obviously wanted that
>>288031300nobody cares about kgbt>xittergo back and stay there
>>288031334Anime confirmed then since saito axed KB and Chojo when they had the anime in production already kek
Is it just me or are shounen series a lot more girly and basic and a lot less boyish, acid and ambitious than they were a few decades ago
>>288031300Gintama is peak fujoseries and had 2 girls in the top 10 on average(Kagura and one between Tsukuyo and Otae)sometimes even all three of them.
>>288031498Zoomer here, we are more sensitive now and hate toxic masculinity
Togashi...save jump
ya gettin' yer kgb metallic poster?
>>288031503I will never forgive Gorilla for ruining Kamui’s popularity…He was better without that backstory…
>>288031834Why?
>>288031834Was it the backstory or the fact that for a while he was basically Takasugi henchmen?
>>288031834There it wasn't too bad, in Soul Silver arc pt.2 he became 15th behind Sacchan and Otae.
>>288031965>GorillaKek
>>288031990There are three Gorillas in that image.
>>288030185our HEROESand kgb i guess..
>>288031503Gintama was unintentionally fujo and Sorachi still bothered to write decent arcs for the women.
Gorilla’s new manga has too few named characters…
>>288029442This has a '90s or '00s vibeI don't think this will go over well with young people
>>288032282There's more fanservice of Gintoki than from any of the girls.It was intentional Gorillabait
>>288032371It's already dead, the rapid powerup in that very page is what confirmed it
>Seeing how almost all comments are about Kinato and Alien Headbutt I have to remind these are Mangaplus views and they are decent but not viral. Reality is both manga are in the bottom of ToC and reception in Japan is being low. Last chance is volume 1 sales.Do you agree with him?
>>288030835in the sense that it was doing so before it even came out, at least here, i'm not sure about japan
A reminder that Sorachi was a little shit
>>288032421No chance, they were axed before volume 1
>>288032331Maybe now with the weird going ons exposed to all the school that will changeor maybe it will pull a Nue and erase everybodies memories and fix the damage
>>288032389Mostly in the anime, like the ending with all the shirtless guys.
>>288032446>Sorachi was a little shitSorachi is a big shit and came back after 6 years and half of begging to write a literal shitpost manga, plus isekai parody.
>>288032446Gin's past wasn't really that important, nor do I remember people particularly caring about it.
>>288032468There was the equivalent ending with the girls as brides.Plus woke Kyuubei being in both.
>>288031503gintama fujos pandering was played for laughsunlike kgb, gintama 100% can survive without fujos.
>>288032510I think there was a theory about Gin being half-yato in particular. In general people asking who the main character's parents are since we've never seen them.
>>288032538>gintama fujos pandering was played for laughs unlike kgb, gintama 100% can survive without fujos.BTW Gintama is Haikyuu/Kuroko level of fujobait with 80% of the audience being female, KGB is at max a JJK/MHA with 60% of the audience being female.
>>288029363how on earth are people still watching Beginning After the End much less is it number 6 overall
>>288031919Yeah, this. I don't remember anything surprising from his backstory, even. The part that might have hurt him is that he ended up clearly bellow Takasugi. Should have kept him completely separate.
>>288032622It's good
>>288032449>they were axed before [headcanon]
>>288032640being better than the literal slideshow of the first season isn't saying much
>>288032636He ended below Takasugi without enough interactions with him.(Even if canonically Kamui is for sure top 5 in verse maybe top 3)Kamui is weaker than other Gintama guys since he only has yumejos fanbase and not fujos. Plus in Rakuyo he was shown as an annoying brat with a mother complex and the "yatos must fight their father once they reach adulthood" was retconned to him being a brat.
>>288032538His new manga has less fujobait than Gintama. Let's see how successful it will be, since the only difference with Gintama is lack of fujobait so far.
>>288032551I dumped the undumped
>>288032901but why
>>288032901It was undumped for a reason anon
>>288031134Nngh..!>>288032951To break the undumped curse. Been thinking about storytime kgb and finally join but sisters here would get too mad at me so I may dump Shamo or MCMH instead. Wanted to dump Ichi the killer (before he was a witch) but that might be too goreBtw nobody talks about witch watch what is even that about so many chapters >>288029442The coolests, I'm definitely following him for his next job
>>288033032>Btw nobody talks about witch watch what is even that about so many chaptersIt's nice gag manga with cute light romance focus. Just read it anon, it's way better than Roku.When Nico turned into a loli. Just skip to where she turned back, you won't miss anything.
Yep AH>>>>>UD
>>288032901I've seen this chapter as support for under doctor not getting axed any time soon but I gotta say it's the opposite. He's giving her this solo chapter since he probably did get warned of a impending axe. He won't really get another chance to flesh her out. The last few chapters are gonna be chill like this and won't be heavy on fight faggotry
>>288033246Like there's a couple of pages of infodumping her entire backstory and motivations.
>witch watchShinohara was based for this
>>288033347Who was the assistant though? Witch Watches Mangaka?
Most people said "Kinato would be the winner of this batch,” and it looks like that’s exactly how it’s going to turn out.
>>288033393Yeah, he is initially referring to sket dance.
>>288033150Ok will do, dunno why it always slipped out of my mind and it looks cute.>Just skip to where she turned back, you won't miss anything.Kinda like Shamo chinese arc then lmao>it's way better than RokuMasaka!
>>288033246I think it's getting axed after Kinato (first it's AH). Besides the clan it doesn't seem like he would need to rush things to end it
>>288033443BASED Top 8
>>288029101the real one
>>288033607unless you're saying alien is getting axed this upcoming round, kinato the round after that, and then under doctor the round after that it's not likely as they usually axe recent series in the order they debuted and the debut order from that batch was doctor -> kinato -> alien
Is it just me or does everyone have to solve three captchas before posting now?
>>288033847Not seeing that here
>>288033881subhuman paypig
anime is saved
Maybe magical girl and narco wars should have ended sooner so more people would stick around to see the cool climax
>>288033847did you erase cookies or log in from a different device?
>>288029054Read island rock.Super chill series with nice dialogue.
Post your jump plus face
Make the Exorcist Fall in Love and Centuria are trash.
Make the Exorcist Fall in Love and Centuria are great.
Make the Centuria Fall in Trash and Exorcist are Love.
Since a lot of you don't read the rest of the manga in the magazine. I will tell you how close they are to ending
>>288034934>ao hakoThe long awaited final between Taiki and Shuji is starting. Taiki is already going to nationals no matter who wins.I doubt we will get introduced to bunch of new characters for nationals, so the story will probably conclude after this match.
>>288034992>himaThey will go on a field trip which takes place right after the date when Tenichi stops being Himari house cleaner and where he will read Honoka love letter.He will probably confess during the trip then the manga ends.
>>288035042>sakaWe're still in twin fight. After this maybe Tenkyu will help Shin fight Tanabata then all that's left is Sakamoto vs Uzuki.
Bachi sisters... our manga was meant to be the next Black Clover. What the hell happened to the sales?
our
KINATO WON
Tsugimanga
AH can still be saved by making volume 1 double length and ending at Little Mei
>>288035373No one wants to be the next BC and kgb is gonna blow past BC's peak sales when the anime comes out.
>>288029285>that huge difference in shinobi and kirknato>UD below gonronthey are doing 5k and 1k eachgrim
>>288036479another dud batch but Saito will be forced to keep onw alive after so much shilling
>>288036528If Basket Deku is the lowest one then Saito will shill that one. I wouldn't be surprised to see Roku replacing Alien in the bottom
>>288029101No one cares Jeremy
>>288029101we care
the himatens owe me sex
>>288033735Yeah but I think the order will be this: Alien, Kinato and then Doctah
Kinato and Alien will end next round in that order. Doctor will end the round after that, unless Saito keeps putting it on bottom 3, in that case it will end alongside the rest of its batch.
>>288037145>Keeps the worst selling oneFunny
>>288037165He is so easy to read, see>>288029326
No one can beat Kiyoshi
>>288037234>No one can beat the secret son of a rich pedoOf course
i like sorachi's new manga.
>>288029122What are you talking about?
>>288037165But it hasn’t sold yet. Past the top 5000 or so Amazon placements are meaningless. It’s like comparing two tiny drops of water to see which is slightly bigger
>>288037365while kinato is a droplet the droplet known as Gonron is microscopic
>>288037260why cant Kiyoshi be like his sisters...
>BC isnt selling at all so stores are putting it on clearanceLMAOOO
>>288034616
>>288038002that's a preowned set of volumes 1~33 though
>Kaguraflopshit
>>288033347Festivals are indeed cringe
Funny story yesterday. A guy grab kiyoshi and told his friend that it's the next one piece. Friend replied with everyone is trying to be the next one piece.
>>288038794I heard a kid tried to kill another one with a katana to steal his Kiyoshi manga
Fun fact if you buy Kiyoshi and put the manga next to a pregnant woman the kid will be born sooner because he/she can't wait to read it.
>>288038337>finale was so shit fans are trying to get rid of their volumesLMAOOOO
>>288040050You need a full night of sleep, for real.
>>288040065i just took a nap thoughbeit
HEROshige peacefully resting on QUEENaki's thighs...
>>288040099Explains the schizophrenia, I guess.Consistently interrupted sleep is terrible for mental health.
PlusGODs use this thread
DDD was so shit this week again
>>288040654MAD is the superior Monday manga.
shiba inu rooms is the next big jump+ series
Shame AH introduced Mei so lateI'd be vastly more interested in it if she was there early
The sports curse continues
>>288042118BASED Shiro
>>288042118Alien Headbutt had insane boost these last two chapters, but can it actually save it?
the loli goat isn't that cool
>>288042277Trust in Goat.
>>288042309but she is hot
>my manga is failing? i'll start pandering to waifufags who surely read Weekly Fujo JumpAH author is a genius
Serialize this now
>>288042477>native isekai slopTorishima will never stop shitting on Saito
>>288042477>CSM but isekai and more soulessMatsui was right
KINO Piece Me & RoboKINOSaKINOto Days KINO Watch BLEAK Box AKINO-baNINO Nue's Exorcist KINObachi Ultimate Exorcist KINOshi Hima-Ten! Ichi the WINNER KINObi Undercover SomeWON HertzABOVE DoctorKINOto's MagicAlien HeadKINORoku’s House of KINOtiesDrawn to the KINOClass 2-B Hero Destroyerz
>>288042393>it works and AH gets a boost in popularityAH mangaka is a trailblazing innovator
>>288042580Is CSM in the room with us?
>>288038794At a anime con a while back a guy said he liked kiyoshi. The crowd surrounded him and started pulling his limbs off.
>>288042790its literally the pochita/yoru take over contract
All the guys are cuter than the gori woman
>>288034934Roboco and WW are also ending soon
>>288042886>robocolol
Ichi the NoStakes
>>288029294That gif would only be appropriate if he posted Zolo
>>288042863Sex with Shoma.
>>288042886>Roboco ... ending soon
>>288038002This is where kagurabachi is headed.
>>288026155>Otohi Ogi with "Pyurifaiāzu"Exorcism slop>Shigeto Kiji with "Raifu ∞"Hero Native Isekai sloo>Ping Pong Peril mangaka new oneshot Yoshiharu Kataoka (Ping Pong Peril) with "Saikyo Joreishi Kan-chan!", with an official color pageExorcism slop #2 but with some romance>Hidechika Matsui with " The Demon of Shadow Burial" or known as "Kagesou no AkumaExorcism slop #3>Wamino with " Miyabi yuē Wa Ku"We want Medalist at home>Shun Yabe with "Onmyo Donkan Massugu se Ima"Exorcism slop #4>Kemuri Taimatsu with “Pen wa ken yori etosetora"https://imgur.com/a/kmSOhzj>Tatara Kyou with 'Inyoroku Battle Fantasy Bu'girl fights monster and has some sort of manager, could count as Exorcism slop #5>Daiki Nono with "On Stage"We want Act Age 2>Wataru Kuroki, as the writer, and Takeshi Kuroiwa, as the illustrator, with "Hangetsu kurīningusābisu"Exorcism slop #6, this time with panel reuse galore>Hayashi Tatsuya, with "Mamono no Yusha"Hero native isekai slop #2>Odoru Issei with “Shinran - KAMURAN - ”Exorcism slop #7>Takumi with "OHALIVE"Exorcism slop #8 this time with stands>Jou Tanakura with "Kitsune no yume"Exorcism slop #9 but in Heian era, also first KGB inspiration mentiones>Murano Shiki(Or Fumuki Murano) with "Yamori no Iemori"Exorcism slop #10>Fujisawa Shinobu with "Aze no mamoribito" or known as "Guardians of the rice paddies"Exorcism slop #11>Hokazono Akira, with "Sūpānakkuru ojōsama" or known as "Super Knuckle Lady"Hero slop that could be yuri slop, basically we want Shy at home>Fuji Tomoya with 'Niide ReiranGagshit>Chihiro Okuno with "Nairu to Noeru"Fujimoto esque artstyle drama, at least look somewhat uniqueLike 11 exorcism if you dont want to count the girl one, absolutely criminal, with these prospects i think we are better off staying with Kiyoshi
>>288043572messed up "Pen wa ken yori etosetora" is the girl exorcism slopInyoroku Battle Fantasy Bu is hitman slop
>>288030835Yeah.. and fans in the west had to keep it alive by word of mouth and fuxking voting for it. Because yes Japan did not give a fuck about the series when it first started. We all remember the Char jokes,ugly anya, the stupid long mouth gag, the author is a guro pedo etc.
>>288043654>and fans in the west had to keep it alive by word of mouth and fuxking voting for itWhy the fuck are foreigners allowed to spam vote the surveys
>>288043943They should sell the magazine in dollars and it make it so the votes from this are worth more
>>288043572https://imgur.com/a/inyoroku-battle-fantasy-bu-GE8lTDtThis is the only one I liked out of the batch. The only one I can see working as a series. Horrible oneshots all around
>>288042815>guy said he liked kiyoshiI don't believe you
>>288044154I feel like I'd like the kitsune one once its translated, but reading it on the giga issue must have been really tiring since its exorcism after exorcism slop
Naz Chris is seething over people poking at Torishima's bold comments againhttps://x.com/i/status/2053797213277700345
Do electric Ruris dream of Kyoani shows?
>>288046723can't get enough of Torishima trvthnvkeshope he never stops, the man has seen so much.
>>288046287I still can't get over how bad the author is at designing characters, in terms of both appearance and personality. Doesn't help that he hyperactively cycles through these designs in hopes that one of them goes viral, resulting in none of them leaving any impact.
>>288029054>Oda loves his manga and now One Piece is more for adults than for childrenI agree
>>288046972>The only thing people care about piss now is power level agenda>for adult
>>288047006I don't think you read One Piece
>>288047073>random jrpg babblig>for adults
>>288046725>Just a teaseWhat's the point kek
>>288047379To advertise their other projects
>>288029054where can I read it please? All I can find is snippets instead of a full translated transcription
>>288040692not much discussion of it online though, is it doing OK?
Weekly Shoseki Top 500 (5/4/26 - 5/10/26)01. Jujutsu Kaisen Modulo #303. Kagurabachi #1104. Blue Box #2505. Sakamoto Days #2706. Ichi the Witch #815. Someone Hertz #318. The Elusive Samurai #2571. Hima-Ten! #9 (6,291 / 12,979)96. Me & Roboco #26 (4,316 / 8,560)102. Ultimate Exorcist Kiyoshi #8 (3,967 / 8,692)
>>288047632Which series cuck kgb out of number 2?
>>288046723>boldMore like retarded.
>>288046723I thought this interview was fake and no one cared about it? Why am i seeing this all over twitter now? Is this the official translation?
>>288048063Cause agenda-driven retards are responding to it like it's real, not a single person is asking for a source.
Why do people love woke-bachi
>>288047446Maybe they should use more popular series like maid dragon to advertise
Axel is flaming the fuck out of Saito
>>288048075>>288048063The interview itself is real, retard.I wouldnt be surprised if the translation is real too even if its exaggerated
>>288048131Hiroto boywifebussy is that good that it revived national socialism in every fujo hearts.
>>288048026The Five Star Stories vol 19. The manga has been published since 1986.
>>288048131SNKrapefuges trying to find something to latch on, yes.
>>288048075You ask too much of bots that roam twitter.
>>288048196I need hate sex fanart between him and descarass
>>288048196Hey, I just saw this pic on /cm's Jump thread.
Heil Hitler
Keep the discussion chill. We've been having debates wether or not to allow talks around the malediction and wether "akemura was right or not". (cant believe i have to say this) Please just refrain from using the malediction as a reason to justify actual genocides. You're allowed to talk about the malediction and akemura's decision and ideals.
>’Fairy Tail' Manga Return has been advanced by 1 week ahead due to Author Hiro Mashima's Speed finishing way before the Magazine's Editorial Deadline. Now set to start July 29th instead of August 5th, he's also currently serializing a monthly series at the same time.Why are the authors at Jump so weak in comparison?
>>288047446I hope Ruri doesn't get released until 2028 i dont want KGB and it to cannibalize each other
>>288048340anyone who see (((them))) killing 3 diplomats without any reason should've known by now who is right or wrong.
Post John Mikaboshi
Pre order status???
>>288048340i hate animeniggers for discovering KGB.
>>288048378Who cares. Mashima shits out manga fast because his writing is formulaic and he recycles designs constantly.
>>288047632Why is kiyoshi lower than roboco?
>>288048568This week's sale (3,967) is lower than Roboco's (4,316)
>>288048475Volume 1 of 1 : 回撃のキナトAmazon Bestseller: #26,701 in Shonen Manga#55,858 in Graphic Novels (Japanese Books)Volume 1 of 1 : UNDER DOCTORAmazon Bestseller: #32,061 in Shonen Manga#63,526 in Graphic Novels (Japanese Books)OH NO NO NO DOCTOR KEKS
>>288048323>>288048340>>288048391Even the pol bait sounds boring
>>288048568Roboco always sells better than Kiyoshi in the end
>>288048673Ayup those are axe numbers for sure
Even nips are noticing
>>288048885This was Kiyoshi's pre order for volume 1 back then on October 24Amazon pre order digital ranking:301 - Akane vol 14314 - SD vol 19336 - WW vol 191,963 - Chojo vol 32,699 - Kill blue vol 711,834 - Himaten vol 116,996 - Necromance vol 221,177 - Bucket vol 222,405 - Murakami vol 126,765 - Kiyoshi vol 1
>Doctor>Kinato>Alien
>>288048947Why is Oda's secret kid so fucking bad it's so hard to mamoru him desu
>>288046287>getting fanartsKINATO WON
>>288048977>Saito gives the cp to UD
>>288048131Good thing the genocide already happened unlike SNK
>>288047240YesKid hate watchingThey only like watching pretty picture
Damn, by chapter 3 Class 2-B already disappeared from the Top 10, and btw, the comments about this week chapter are rough, there are a lot comments calling it boring, there's not even a thread on Animanch to discuss, i read on Matome 1 or 2 even saying Samurai 8 was more interesting -_-; (Well It was way more interesting lol)https://twitter.com/user/status/2053838596222918717
>>288049005Why do they say about ah, kinato and ud?
Alien headbutt is deadKinato is shaping up to be goodNo one cares for Under Doctor
>>288048990He probably had the most confidence in it because it had the cleanest art out of the three. Welp it's a flop like the other others so whatever
>>288048568Roboco has better legs
>>288048977Why do newfags think fanart matter? Oh wait
>>288049032Nah he never supports the ones with the most potential
>>288049005I still hope Sorachi will pull off a miracle and win. If not, well, KGB and Ichi aren't going anywhere, I will just keep reading those.
>>288049032Basically what >>288049092 said.Saito always pushes the 2nd worst of the batch, because he doesn't want the best series of the batch to outshine Kiyoshi and threatens Kiyoshi's position.
>>288047632Where is the light novel about Sukuna's life that will get a mappa anime Gege>>288048196KYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*faints*
>>288049172How does any of that make sense when he let Kiyoshi's batchmates stay alive and they repeatedly outsold Kiyoshi
>>288047969>even jabba cucks dekek
>>288048131the fanbase gor AoTified fast because jew Eren killed their favorite twink
>>288049157Only retards would doubt Sorachi, he's gonna make it just wait and see
>>288048378>Mashima needa money fast that he needs to go back to Fairy Tail while Jump mangaka can go on hiatus and not feel pressuredlmao
>>288049426He has alimony to pay
>>288049412That's exactly what I am doing.
>>288049396What do you mean? Kiyoshi's batchmates are Himaten (soon to be axed) and Murakami (axed). It's clear that Himaten is the best of the batch, Kiyoshi on the second and Murakami the worst (axed). Himaten outsold Kiyoshi by 1.5 times and Saito put it out in bottom 5 toc for months, no color pages while Kiyoshi got promoted into top 7 toc all the time, and he gave kiyoshi color pages multiple times. And now Saito is axing Himaten just because he can't stand having Kiyoshi humiliated by an ecchi romcom.
This is what Saito is shilling
>>288049546Retard, the point was Saito letting it live that long to continually embarrass Kiyoshi over and over every volume release. Why would he let that happen in the first place if you're not a schizo about him suppressing other manga to save face for Kiyoshi?
>>288049765Low sales for any manga is an embarrassment for the editorial team, not the mangaka. It's not mangaka responsibility to make his manga sell well, it's on editors.
>>288049816It's a mangaka's responsibility to make a good manga. You can't sell absolute shit, like Kiyoshi, no matter how good you are as an editor.
>>288049546Himaten doesn't really seem like an axe even if it's been in the bottom in the last few issues it just got a cp recently and earlier in the year it was out of the bottom pretty consistently
>>288049816>Low sales for any manga is an embarrassment for the editorial team, not the mangakaSo now it's not because Kiyoshi gets embarrassed but the editorial, glad we ripped up the schizo headcanon this fast.
>>288049835Extremely good manga could sell quite bad. Good sales is an indication of popularity, not quality. The best manga is usually in josei/seinen category which usually sells lower than shonen. Not talking about Kiyoshi in particular. It's still an editor job to make it better.>>288049870What? Saito keeps Kiyoshi not because he wants to embarrass anyone, he keeps it and shills it because Oda said so.
Just found out oda buys 10k copies of each kiyoshi volumeSource:My sources
>>288049904>What? Saito keeps Kiyoshi not because he wants to embarrass anyone, he keeps it and shills it because Oda said so.Schizo can't even keep up with the conversation. We're talking about Saito not wanting Kiyoshi to be embarrassed, that's the claim made by >>288049172>because he doesn't want the best series of the batch to outshine Kiyoshi and threatens Kiyoshi's position
>>288049940This >because he doesn't want the best series of the batch to outshine Kiyoshi and threatens Kiyoshi's positionabsolutely doesn't mean anything like this >We're talking about Saito not wanting Kiyoshi to be embarrassedThis "embarrass" was brought up by you here >>288049765 and that is simply because you and constant embarrassment go hand in hand. It lives rent free in your head so you are unable to avoid constantly associating it with everything around you, being a living embodiment of embarrassment yourself. Simple as.
>>288049904>Extremely good manga could sell quite badIn WSJ? In Kiyoshi's overshilled position? No. With this level of exposure and shilling there are no excuses why your manga is selling like shit other than it being shit."Extremely good manga could sell quite bad" only refers to series that lack any exposure in obscure magazines.
>>288049958Nice, projecting now because it's clear how easy it is for your schizo conspiracy theories to fall apart upon any scrutiny. If we don't want to use the word embarrassing because it scares you, we can just go back to the direct quote about Saito not wanting a series to outshine Kiyoshi and "threaten" its position. When it comes to Himaten's involvement, you either acknowledge here that it isn't actually outshining Kiyoshi (so your schizo headcanon remains in tact) or Saito for whatever reason kept it around long enough to keep outshining Kiyoshi in sales over and over.
>>288049978Wow, it's just that me talking about seinen and josei could give you a hint it wasn't about WSJ.>>288050005It's good you understand now your bringing embarrassment up was nothing but a projection of your sad life.
>>288029054how long would it have taken for flamingo to kill sanji
Ichibros...
>>288050011Notice you don't have any arguments left and all you can do is try to flip every insult back to me. You have zero answer as to why Saito kept Himaten around as long as he did to keep outshining Kiyoshi repeatedly. You don't want to acknowledge that Himaten never actually made Kiyoshi look bad enough to truly threaten its position because you'd have to believe otherwise for your schizo conspiracy to make sense in your head.
Kiyoshi never outsold even Chojo or Kill Blue
>>288050011>it's just that me talking about seinen and josei could give you a hint it wasn't about WSExcept we're talking about WSJ and the mega-overshilled Kiyoshi.
>>288050039At this point I think you are falseflagging, because being such a retard as you're trying to present yourself is too much even for /wsj/I will still bite: Himaten is a pure romcom without any gimmick. Jump tends to have at least one. Just like a gag manga. Himaten was kept because evidently there were no pure romcoms editorial wanted to serialize. >>288050053And you think, unlike other magazines, in WSJ it's not an editors job to direct manga in a way which will make it sell well?
>>288050097Alright, squeezed an argument out of you.>Himaten is a pure romcom without any gimmick. Jump tends to have at least one. Just like a gag manga. Himaten was kept because evidently there were no pure romcoms editorial wanted to serialize.That's interesting because now we have a manga called Someone Hertz. Since editorial got their romcom that's an instant success, wouldn't this mean Hertz is the true reason Himaten is on it's way out the door and not Saito feeling like Kiyoshi is getting outshone?
>>288050125Again, you're being retarded. Someone Hertz is not a pure romcom, and me mentioning a gimmick could gave you a hint if you wouldn't be such a retard. Now, do your best, and tell the class what is an actual manga which is on it's way out the door due to Hertz being successful? Hint, this manga overstayed its welcome, but the editorial kept asking mangaka to prolong it for as much as possible, because they did not have Hertz, and now it's finally released of its misery. Name it, I believe in you.
>>288050147>pure romcomWhat does this mean to you? And you definitely don't think it's weird Himaten started heading on its way out around the same time Hertz started emerging as a success? How much do you have to twist here to think Kiyoshi is fault and not the simpler, earthbound reason that Saito found his new pillar romcom?
>>288050175>What does this mean to you?A romcom giving some focus on something else outside of the relationship aspect, duh. What else? >And you definitely don't think it's weird Himaten started heading on its way out around the same time Hertz started emerging as a success?No, because it doesn't work this way in WSJ.>How much do you have to twist here to think Kiyoshi is fault and not the simpler, earthbound reason that Saito found his new pillar romcom?Hertz is not a competitor to Himaten and it doesn't take its slot. Once Himaten ends, you will most likely see another romcom serialized very soon after.
>>288050202>A romcom without* giving some focus on something else outside of the relationship aspect, duh. What else?Fixed
>>288050210Lmao almost just nuked yourself there but the distinction is meaningless since it disqualifies Himaten anyway from being a "pure" romcom. Those always spend time focusing on things outside of the relationship because characters tend to have more in their lives going on beyond the love interest.Editorial isn't making a hard distinction either way if you believe Himaten was in the running as a Blue Box replacement. If another romance shows up and quickly shows out with "future tsugi winner" level performance, it makes sense they found their true Blue Box replacement and now they could let Himaten go.
>>288050259>Those always spend time focusing on things outside of the relationship because characters tend to have more in their lives going on beyond the love interest.No, they did not, not to the extent of Blue Box focusing on spokon aspect or Someone Hertz focusing on radio jokes.>Editorial isn't making a hard distinction either way if you believe Himaten was in the running as a Blue Box replacement. No, retard, because Blue Box isn't a pure romcom. And himaten wasn't a replacement for it. Someone Hertz was. This is why you can see what happened with Blue Box the moment Someone Hertz gained traction. They literally swapped them in TOC lmao, how come something so obvious eluded you completely?>it makes sense they found their true Blue Box replacement They did! It's called Someone Hertz though for the romcom aspect. And for the spokon, they are frantically searching for one, but honestly, BB had spokon only as a "gimmick" in the first place.
>>288050303Okay so Himaten was not intended to replace Blue Box, meaning editorial had no vision of Himaten being a romance pillar in the magazine, so it was always just a filler series they could toss out at any time. The other explanation for Himaten's demise then would be no future in the magazine from static sales performace + poor survey showings. That's your other option if you keep up this cope that editorial simply didn't find the better romcom manga, because Himaten actually fits this super specific genre in your head and not the other romcoms.
So himaten is on its way out bcuz author doesn't have anything else to say and someone hertz is bb successor ?
>>288050355>so it was always just a filler series they could toss out at any timeIt was just taking a pure romcom slot. Neither BB nor Hertz have anything to do with it. The facts it's out is either because mangaka wanted out/got a better idea (possible due to his first manga) or because editorial believes they have a better replacement for a pure romcom slot.>Himaten actually fits this super specific genre in your headPure romcom is super specific for you? How much of a newfaggot are you?
>>288050388>Himaten wasn't killed by Hertz or Kiyoshi, it was actually killed by a manga that isn't even out yetYou know what, we can leave it at that
>>288050417Its sales were shit and it wasn't popular at all. It killed itself and should have been killed earlier.
I want another "guy helps group of girls because of reasons" romcom, maybe involving idols
>>288050482Doormat shit is half the romcoms out there, especially harem ones, starting with Love Hina.
That kiyoshi dude is so fucking retarded. It's clear that Saito kept Himaten around because he wants to humiliate Himaten by placing it in the bottom toc and kiyoshi above it. But the reality check comes in, Himaten is still beating Kiyoshi in sales, so he has to axe Himaten now. As for other new series, he can't have new series to actually outdone Kiyoshi. There are only few exceptions, such as Ichi, Shinobi (Saito's shill projects) and Someone Hertz (a surprise hit). Other than that he killed all new series that's slightly better than Kiyoshi.Just look at UD/Kinato/AH batch. He pushed UD because he knew it could never be better than Kiyoshi. On the other hand, he'd rather axe Kinato because he's afraid it's going to outsell Kiyoshi's first volume as indicated by the pre-order numbers. Same with Roku, Basketball Deku and Gorilla's manga. He's going to kill Roku's momentum, keep Gorilla's manga which is the 2nd worst of the batch and put it in bottom toc to humiliate him, and axe Basketball Deku.
>>288050482himaten is literally that
>>288050482If you like the concept of the guy being helpful and great at cleaning, may I suggest you the romcom which precedes Himaten and most likely an inspiration to it, since Himaten is obviously going to end the similar way. Avoid spoilers, it was just as a rollercoaster Genki Ono promised us! The manga is called GalCleaning!
pray for...
>>288050599You really believe you can mess with me like that huh I may be 25 but I've had read my fair share of manga and have been around here for a while now
>>288050599Holy last minute kanna rape arc
>>288050609...Kiyoshi's cancellation.
>これでエースが残ってひまが死ぬっておかしいよ Kek 5ch started calling Kiyoshit "Ace" sarcastically
>>288050615...in the chapter 100 range.
kindleあかね22少年マンガ 227位/コミック 436位しのび8 少年マンガ 1,856位/コミック 4,838位JK勇者2 少年マンガ16,063位/コミック41,649位 キナト 少年マンガ26,701位/コミック55,858位ゴンロン 少年マンガ29,103位/コミック114,890位小副川2 少年マンガ32,060位/コミック58,120位アンドク 少年マンガ32,061位/コミック63,526位こいつどうすればいい
>>288050622Why
>せめてロボコはボコってくれよエース… TL: Goddammit Ace, at least win against Roboco... >>288050637Because they have noticed that Kiyoshi is Saito's Ace
>>288049235Fleshlightkuna
>>288050632KINATO OBVIOUSLY ITS THERE TO STAY
MAD PVs continue to perform very good.Also, the recent volume sold over 4k if I interpreted the shoseki right, which is the best selling volume so far.
>>288050632>Delayed ah to julyFuck off saito
>>288050632>kinato below JK>doctor below gonron and fucking mage next doordamn so it will be 2k and 1kanother dud batch
>>288050632>kinato and under losing to jk hero>under losing to gonron
>>288050681Maybe If saito bothered to shill Kinato a little bit instead of under doctor which clearly nobody likes
Kinato vol 1 is selling more than Kiyoshi vol 1 btw
>>288050694Jump has been going woke lately.I won't be surprised if Nue will be their last manga made for heterosexual high T men.
>Oda: Please Saito, I need this... my nephew is kinda homeless... >Saito: Say no more senpai
>>288050701>their last manga made for heterosexual high T men.But kinato is right there
>>288050695Truth. This was Kiyoshi's pre order ranking back then >>288048947>26,765 - Kiyoshi vol 1
>>288050713Axed.Himaten is also axed.Once Nue is axed WSJ is now free from "noise".
SAITOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>288050701>>288050713You now remember Kaedegami
>>288050721Are you a yurifag
>>288050738I remember this one dying to the nue killer curse
>shill under doctor to the moon>6k positions lower than KinatoSaito why are you like this
What were the editors thinking by advertising this disgusting manga in a magazine primarily read by fujoshi and school kids?
>>288050738I'm not even asking "why?", but "how" do they even decide which manga gets the axe before the first volume was even printed?
>>288050770>>288050784Flowchart:>is it better than Kiyoshi?If yes: axeIf no: keep it around as Kiyoshi's cushion
>>288050738>>288050784KDG had good online views, decent online presence and even the sales were the best of the newbies. Its cancellation "by chapter 7" makes no sense. Saito is just incompetent.
Kinato needed to be axed. nuerats needes to be culled.remove every cis male from this planet. WSJ is our magazine.
>>288050694What is this horrendous action choreography. This is borderline unreadable.>>288050770One can only wonder if the root of the problem is simply Saito having shit taste.
>>288050784She should jump to Magazine and do something like Kurotsuki no YaergnachtSame with Ono, he'd be doing better in WSM
>>288050817nue is a trans manga tho with gakuro transitionning
Remember when 100k was the axe line
>>288050784With how bad the action was I doubt it was the author who wanted to make it battle focused. Maybe it was the editors who asked for a more combat focused series which is so stupid. Should've went for a more mystical, horror type of story.
Oturd being let alive for as long as it did still makes me mad
>>288050834Calm down KGBCfag
>>288050784They have internal metrics for it. U19s exist because they can predict with 99% accuracy that it will debut with trash sales, and that's what usually what ends up happening. KDG was never going to surprise us with amazing sales.
>>288050869Saito literally said they axe series without looking at the volume performance
>>288050701It's for cucks though just like MHA was.
>>288050869Saito axed series that got more boost than akane with anime
Ichi the witch main purpose is to infect kids with queer ideology
>>288050881Holy shit so kgbfags being previous bcfags was real
>>288050888and KGBTQ+?
>>288050888Ichifujos are not pozzed like kgbfans
>>288050890KNYfags*
>>288050881>>288050864>>288050834>>288050817Why do you always spam the same posts in every thread
>>288050893Hokazono will draw some bitches with big boobs soon, once he gets confident enough
>>288050875Yeah, cause very low votes indicates the volumes will perform poorly 99% of the time. You don't have to wait until the volumes come out to know the bottom 1 stinker in the toc will sell like garbage.
>>288050904Isn't nuerats manga being trans a recent development?
>>288050914Are you saying Roboco and kiyoshi are more popular than kgb?
>>288050917Is it your headcanon or what? Explain
>>288050924Votes don't dictate 100% of the toc placements, we don't really know how many survey votes they get each week.
>>288050934Ah so you aren't reading it as well I see.
>>288050942Why are you reading a manga you hate?
>>288050949What do you thing "as well" means, huh?
fujoshi century is upon us. WSJ will now becoming dependent solely on us.
>>288050967Not until kinato exists
>>288050924Kagurabachi doesn't need shilling. Kagurabachi already WONWe love Kagurabachi and it's ANIME hereWe love Black Clover and the author hereWe love Kiyoshi, Roboco and Shinobi hereWe hate Decuck/Horikoshi, Nue (anime never because is getting AXED), Himaten and Akaneshilled hereWe hate Gonron2 aka Roku hereBut mostly, we hate J.Death list:>nuerats>mhacucks/horicucks>sukunaschizo>Akanehiroschizo>AIfag>Chartschizo>kawaguchischizo/Gonron/roku/sheep spammer>Witchriv spammer>>288050817Gooners are scum, Saito did nothing wrong
Axe Kinato's Magic
Holy shit hes there
>>288050990>Kagurabachi doesn't need shilling
>>288050773>And school kidsNow that's bad. Apparently its from the same creator of the manga I was going to dump soon, I don't like serious poly meme uhm then again I never read this
>draw a man>give him titsIs this what gen Z and gen A are into nowadays?
>>288050990Based
>>288050990>>288051034Can anyone explain me why Kgbfujos want to censor fanservice and hetkino and the sukunaschizo doesn't give a shit? Are fujos divided in groups too?
>>288051048take your meds, retard
>kaguradownies woke upI'm out
>>288051048Probably because she is even more degenerate, as soon as I saw ichi the killer being named i knew it. You have women being a huge audience for that redo healer show and now that Barbarian who kidnaps a knight and makes her his slave. It's like korean and chink women forbidding ecchi for the rest while the japanese women like fanservice and even draw fanservice themselves
Axe Nue
>>288051036Name?
anita saarkesian is my idol btw. we are united against both anime/manga and videogame fronts.
>>288051090>Barbarian who kidnaps a knight and makes her his slaveIts peak female fantasy, after the first 3 chapters it's just erotica for women to masturbate to
>>288051105Based kgbro
>>288051111based kgbsis
>>288051111quad of TRVTHNVKE
Is this series nearing the end?
>>288051120>>288051090Women love rape and horror stories a lot. That list she (?) posted once felt like something women would read kek
>>288051149Yes please PLEASE
King of the shonen...
>>288051149Is that a fucking Babapapa ?
Has there ever been a Jump villain this intellectually rich? That alone makes him unique.
nuetroons lost once again
can Soga defeat Ohma Zi-O?
>kgbfags are anita supporters>hertzfags are ntrfags>sukunafujo dumps rape shit>centuriafags are transbians yuritroonsIchichads? WON
>>288051150>check out the list>Shamo has rape too
>>288051221hydrogen bomb vs dying ant
>>288050611What do you mean "mess with you"? That manga was unique, and reading that with /a/ was amazing.
Mikaboshi deserved to be massacred
>>288051318Who
>>288033032WW is kino and cute
>>288029054>Tried getting Toriyama to make Goku marry Bulma, Toriyama made him marry Chichi out of spite>Shit talked Daima and said it should have been about Vegeta. A character who wouldn't have married Bulma if Toriyama listened >Seethes that Oda won't listen to him and doesn't give a shit about editors >Asshurt that Oda works with the animation crew to make sure the story is portrayed popularly. Something that if Toriyama did we wouldn't have had to have Dragon Ball Kai come make a more canon version than Z>shit talked Oda for working on the live action, now the most popular thing on Netflix and the most popular live action of all time>tells Oda he loves One Piece too much>Shit talked the person that Torishima directly chose, Toyataro, said he lacks manga talentThis guy had the balls to seethe and try to change the top selling TWO franchises of all time then seethed his entire career that neither Oda nor Toriyama gave a shit about his ideas. Absolute fucking bum.Whether you love or hate One Piece more series needs people like Oda. Someone who says fuck the editors this is my story and works with their anime and live action crews to make sure the stories stay true to their ideas.
>torishima
>>288051337It's okay for Oda to have passion but the sabotaging anything that could be a threat for 5 minutes is retarded. He made that poll that's cheating over others just to get the biggest number, and he acts rude towards otherOPLA is popular because it was when OP was good You are right Torishima is a spiteful cloud yeller though
>irishima
>>288051337He's still based for shitting on mha and horikoshi
>>288051367Based kgbro
>still no good ne series
>>288051149Don't even get your hopes up the angels are coming after this
>>288051367>>288029122He's never even mentioned them.
Machimaho doesn't have rape
>>288051351If you're referring to the character polls, the character fags in One Piece are crazy and rig for their favorite characters and waifus with bots. Duplicate IPs are usually removed then people scream RIGGED when it turns out their favorite waifu or the character they sided with over another character didn't win. Anyone in the One Piece threads could tell you how crazy the Fandom is. Zoro vs. Sanji, Yonkous vs. Admirals, waifu vs. waifu, Shanks vs. Mihawk, etc.
>>288051415He did.
>>288051432>femalesYep, they belong to Tafuku
>>288050809Saito is a DEIer, he think only Fujos can save JUMP.
>>288051432Does it have yuri?
>>288051519No he didn't. You could argue that it was beneath his notice to even name drop it instead of making up random shit.
>>288051602Some yuribait but too little. Not yuri. I was going to dump one with a lot of yuri but it's too gore/adult maybe!
>>288051619>source: your ass
>>288050990Why is it so hard for you to stop being a faggot for one day
nue FUCKING lost
>>288052389
She WONhttps://youtu.be/OZ6vRh9tqq0?si=_w_ZGyYGizOMJA0K
Fkin nueRATS spreading the hantavirus
>yfw Kagurabachi outsells MHA>yfw Horicuckshi LOSES
>>288029363I imagine the late night slot nuked any and all pull anime OP had. The adult audience likely reads it and are aware of how bad the padding etc is. Even for late night WSJ battle shounen adaptions, OPs is fucking bottom barrel. I'd hoped they'd have taken a year+ off, wait until elfbaf ended then done 13-26 episodes, keep the pace tight.
>>288052486OP should have used the remake treatment way, way sooner. By the time the remake reached the timeskip we will be too old
>>288051221Akemura wins for having proven onscreen feats better than Ohma, but Akemura lost to Ohma on statement feats.
>>288052389>spanishEw
>>288052477Get past Black Clover first KGBT schizo.
>>288053280mhacuck...
>>288052486>late night slotNo way they were that dumb
Wow what a fucking bust night for jump+
KDGroomers keep insisting that this garbage had some potential, when in reality you all just wanted to jerk off to Chiyou. You guys are worse than Red Hood fags. It's pathetic, and I'm glad Saito axed this shit.
