>dude I'm actually a GOD at videogames cause i play a lot of dogshit shovelware trash gamesthat's now how that works
>>288029436You missed the fight where he actually lost against the actual GOAT of gamer?
>>288029436That is how that works actually
>>288029436That is how that works, just ask anyone who's completed Darksouls 2
>>288029479No, you can see speedrunners trying new games and they suck, being a "better gamer" cannot beat someone a year ahead of you in experience.
>dude i play an ironic ugly character heheThe worst people in MMOs
>>288029436One (1) quick glance at /v/ and I know for a fact you're 100% right and need no further proof.
I'm sure he's top ranked at the zero population trash he plays.
>>288029436Whenever I meet mmorpg players they always lack the most basic gaming knowledge, like they never played any other genre other than that slop
>>288029436Its criminal how good the animation was for this, considering the actual show, writing and characters were total dogshit.
>>288029436it just means he's played a large amount of games and uses his vast knowledge of games to adapt to new game faster.
>>288029436>have skills to clears countless insanely hard buggy games>not good at normal games for casuals>that's not how that worksAnon....
>>288029514depends on the game/genre. A lot of experience is transferable.A year of experience in FNF as your first rhythm game isn't going to make you better than someone with decades of experience in community maps for guitar hero.A year's experience in the newly released hero shooter slop isn't going to make you better than a lifetime pro in overwatch.
it depends on each individual games really. When it's try & die type of games, or if it's about memorizing patterns. Like you have to learn the pattern of fighting on new mobs in each new FROM games. You have to learn each new combos in each new 2D fighting game. Just because you're good at counter strike doesn't mean you'll be nearly as good at another fps like quake 3.
>>288029436The real person this stupid show is spoofing streams as Macaw45.
>>288029436I can't believe all the people above me think being good at video games is a serious or worthwhile "skill" to have
>>288029514Speedrunners aren't the same thing as a regular player. Speedrunners don't try to be good at games, they try to be good at a single particular game. They don't engage with the game after a particular point, they just memorize exactly what they have to do and repeat it until it turns to muscle memory or try to find exploits that completely breaks how the game is meant to be played which obviously doesn't apply to other games. It isn't comparable to someone who plays a lot of different games.
>>288029436the way they treat the npcs in this is so weird to methey are basically sentient and can die PERMANENTLY but none of the main characters give a shit about putting them in life risking situations because obviously its 'just a game' but then he also treats the npcs like real friends and people even though they could just fucking die at any moment or just log off and never play the game again while the npcs wait for his return for eternityidk it just seems really fucking weird to me
>>288030446It's just a game, bro.
>>288030426The middle ground would be testers who don't just dick around and collect a check.
>>288029514Have you tried playing a game yourself instead of watching someone else do it?
>>288029436I taught people how to play mahjong in college, most people take several hours before they start actually understanding the game, but there was this one hypernerd who I was friends with who spent 50% of his time playing video games and board games, and the other 50% of his time making video games and board games. I kid you not, I spent maybe 10 minutes explaining the rules of the game to him, same as I do to everyone else, and he just fucking got it. He just understood all the rules immediately, he instantly put all new info I would tell into action, I told him how riichi and tanyao and pinfu works, and in literally 5 fucking minutes he makes a riichi tanyao pinfu hand all on his own, on purpose by the way, this was not beginner's luck, this was pure dedicated skill and he even explained his thought process in what he was doing. Explaining to me essentially what tile efficiency is just because he understood how card games work and how card efficiency works in those other games he played. I had to look that shit up on the internet on my own to learn it, but this man just fucking intuits it from experience. Man was a fucking beast, and I'm entirely certain that his sheer autistic prowess and experiences with video games and board games is what made him pick up and understand mahjong so quickly. I don't think I can adequately explain just how easily he understood the rules of the game compared to every other person I've taught. It is actually a nightmare to teach mahjong to the average person. But now I am entirely convinced from that one singular interaction that playing a shit ton of games just makes you way way way smarter than the average person
>>288032342>But now I am entirely convinced from that one singular interaction that playing a shit ton of games just makes you way way way smarter than the average personNo, he is a smart person that plays a lot of games.
>>288030446It's a fun show but you really need to turn off your brain to not lose your immersion. Like, there's absolutely no way a game like this would work irl. If we're just swiftly sidestepping the entire societal upheaval that would happen if full-dive games became easily available, the griefer population would have a field day with this game. Within days, pretty much any important NPC that isn't immune to dmg would have gotten killed by kamikaze players who don't give a shit because they're immortal. There would be entire communities of PKers hanging out around starter towns just to grief for the hell of it, using mules to buy supplies from towns and lure out NPCs to permakill. Like it would be dark souls invasions but 24/7. You're farming some mobs on a low lv account and then all of a sudden three dickbags with stealth archer builds trickshot you from out of vision range and instakill you. They don't even pick up your loot, they just hide and do it again and again and again and again. Because they're dicks.
>>288029514This is wrong.>>288030426>Speedrunners don't try to be good at gamesHilariously wrong.>>288032342>hypernerd who I was friends with who spent 50% of his time playing video games and board games>and board gamesSinking time into JRPGs is not going to make Mahjong concepts intuitive to learn. His board game skills carried over.OP is mostly right. Playing random shit doesn't make you better. Speedrunning or playing hard games does, though. Speedrunning a single game for too long willl not make you very versatile.
>all the mechanics have zero conveyance>the main story content only can be cleared once and is hidden behind massive chains of completely esoteric bullshit>the sub quests also require you to jump through hoops to access and also get the right RNG or they're completely missed>first hyperboss we see you literally can only beat by shoving healing items up your ass and waiting>every piece of rare gear, including the shit that puts you through these "only once ever, if you just chance into all the stars aligning to unlock the questline" quest is breakable>and that's if you haven't by bad luck gotten some sort of lock on your character that makes it impossible to equipHow come the series doesn't also acknowledge that SLF is a kusoge?
>>288029497DS2 is best souls
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>>288029514One of the funny parts related to this is that Sunraku didn't realize he could upgrade skills until a good portion into the game because he's a rushing retard and skipped the tutorial town where all the mechanics get explained.
>>288034894I assume there are redundant parts and failsafes somewhere that we simply never see
>>288034894>>288035606This is sorta explained by the side plot that shows the crippling extent to which the two lead devs hate the player base and also each other
>>288034894>>first hyperboss we see you literally can only beat by shoving healing items up your ass and waitingTo be specific, you can only get to his final phase by waiting. To actually finish the fight you need to either destroy his weapon (which reduces the rewards you get) or use a hyperspecialized parry setup to reflect his strongest move with pinpoint precision while also dodging all the shit he throws at you before that. And this is supposed to be the nerfed version of him.
>>288035029Incorrect.
>>288033749>Speedrunning or playing hard games does, though.Extremely debatable. Speedrunners can be very good at the game they play but not at others. You said doing a single game doesn't make you very versatile but the skills don't necessarily transfer even to different games in the same genre. I remember a while back there was viral news about some Bloodborne speedrunner that tried playing Monster Hunter and got filtered by a fucking Khezu and started shit talking MH. The only thing you can really argue is that speedrunning skills would transfer to other games in the same franchise as the game they speedrun.
>DUDE THIS VR MMO WITH SUPER ACCURATE REACTION TIME TECH IS NOT LIKE MY ANALOG GAME OF 2010s!!! AIEEEEEEEEEEEEShut the fuck up retard.I suck at mmos because they take fucking forever to grind and I have to make friends with the party, fuck that garbage.Just let me minmax my shit build and go out and serial kill a bunch of noobs or mass trap monster for more xp.
>>288030301True, but you COULD make a decent FNF map and a stepmania map because they're similar games
>>288038294>I remember a while back there was viral news about some Bloodborne speedrunner that tried playing Monster Hunter and got filtered by a fucking Khezu and started shit talking MH.Oh that's funny.>Look it up>Some guy named Zeus>Filtered by LR Khezu>In fucking RiseOh I am LAUGHING. Literally just stop attacking when it does its 2 second wind up Blanka move.
>>288034894I thought the point was they WERE playing a kusoge, and that the guy really liked playing kusoges. Or am I remembering a different series
>>288038501I just chose the examples which are the most obviously transferable.Stratergy/puzzle/navigation skill is generally transferable, just more abstract
>>288038589Maybe if that were a subtle joke but from the initial impressions they say, "oh wow it's got smooth controls and no game-breaking glitches, this is an amazing game!"
>>288038589The plot is he finally got convinced to play the really big kamige of the setting. But when you're talking about fictional full-dive VR, the best thing the main game does is just have immaculate fucking control, whereas the kusoge are absolute messes. The weird and impossible quest design is mostly because they're just lucking and god-gamering their way through super-endgame content the devs don't even expect people to have learned about yet, let alone are prepared to face. One of the other games he plays occasionally in the series is a fighting game that kinda sucked, but got a cult following because it was really buggy and glitch hunting and application to the fights like bugged out zoom punches became the main focus of the playerbase, kinda like smash melee if wavedashing and l-cancelling were actually bugs like anti-melee shitposters claim they are.
>>288029436Videogames suck
>>288035029a true champion of taste.
>>288029436Did they ever animate the super-hero fighting game tourney yet? When I last saw it they did half a season and then just cliffhangered it right when the tourney started
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>>288039085For some godforsaken reason season 3 is scheduled for January.
>>288029436Why is it that he can have nipples, but women in anime since 2015 can't have nipples?
>>288029436I'm still kinda disappointed they cut all mentions of bizarre obscure kusoge he constantly references in WN and what skills they taught him. That and the scum trio's banter were the most fun parts for me.Like an animal MMO which was incredibly hard to control in VR and had a fuckton of classes but everybody picked a lion because they were OP, until gorilla became the meta one day.Or a strategy game, which I think technically can still show up, where you play President with superpowers like laser eyesight until the game eventually turns into brutal resource management because you can't actually beat it with your character alone.Or an MMO with a ridiculously low spawn rate for materials where every player eventually becomes a bandit because it's the only way to get resources to do anything, steal it from other players and NPCs.Or a farming game where giant monsters that cause weather with their presence wander around and ruin your crops, making you understand the true essence of farming.These are all games Sunraku either plays in the story or mentions at some point.Sure, these are technically irrelevant to in-universe SLF, but first they're fun, and second, I think it misses the point a bit. I think the story is best as an exploration of "what would actually happen if full dive VR WAS real" and it explores the topic with "there would be a ton of shitty games with broken controls because nobody has any idea how to create one".It's more fun as an exploration of in-universe gaming in general rather than just SLF. It's also why people reading the manga seem to hate the superhero tournament arc, it makes less sense with the shift in focus.
>>288041320Superhero tourney was my favorite segment, and the bandit MMO was importantly the pencilgon intro so that wasn't cut. Is the WN/LN good? I like it enough to read ahead more
