[South Korea] Is the webtoon industry reaching its limits? Naver and Kakao are both seeing declining sales.>Earlier this year, both Naver and Kakao's webtoon businesses experienced negative growth.This is attributed to a prolonged period of low growth in the overall webtoon market, coupled with a lack of supply and demand for major new releases.>The "story" division, to which Piccoma and Kakao Entertainment belong, experienced negative growth. Sales in the story division fell 14% year-on-year to 182.4 billion won.>Sales in the entertainment division were 7.1 billion won, a 20% decrease year-on-year, and sales for Kakao Piccoma, Kakao's Japanese subsidiary, were 112 billion won, a 10% decrease year-on-year.so, what happened to webtoons overall? I thought they're going to overtake manga.
>>288032624forgot the source https://news.mtn.co.kr/news-detail/2026050817284148490
1st they're shit 2nd pirates were right, as always.
Korea shit is not anime and manga
>>288032624Koreanfags always cope and never admit that it's a Global decline everywhere, not just Japan or westerners. They think that "This era is our era" just because the Japs and Westerners are declining
Koreans basically took everything that is wrong with Japan and Westerners and crank it up to eleven, including the retarded Fanbase and how fast they killed off the quality of their media
Turns out piracy is lost sales and not advertisement.
>>288032863If that was true then the sales should've raised you retard
>>288032933They didn't manage to significantly reduce piracy.
>>288032955again are you retarded they massively reduced it already and its going down even more from now on
no matter what kind of leeching these koreans do, their output always fails because of how artificial it is.
>>2880326241. It's shit2. No physical and collectable valueManga panel can look like an art, webtoons always look like a cheapest industrial slop
>>288032624People read Solo Leveling and ran away.
bad artstyle bad story
Not anime or manga>>>/co/
1: The companies are greedy as fuck on the consumer-side2: The heavy focus on anti-piracy and being a pain in the ass must have an influence on how their product is viewed overseas3: I don't know, It may be less than I think, but these DMCA takedowns and legal battles can't be 0 cost4: Everyone is poorer now >>288032813 , as this anon said, the decline is everywhere5: The product on offer is too homogenized6: The product on offer is too safe7: The product on offer is too low quality>The product is 99% shit basically8: The 3 points above will not change because the authors are being strongarmed into doing this shit by the companies, it's in the policy to keep release safe products9: Even if 8 changes [it won't], there is no way that after so many years of being forced to deliver slop, there'll be enough artists that could deliver something good. All the ones that escaped the bootlicking did so by private BBC commissions from the west and their own market
just take a look at the difference at how both manga and manhwa are made. https://imgur.com/a/fNqgtBO
>>288032838Project Moon turning into Gachatrash after only 4 years of promising future always make me laugh
>>288032624
>>288032973The pirates just went from one site to another. They never managed to shut down all of them.
>>288032624Even Korean know webtoon is a scam
>>288033260>>288033282they are ruining the industry indeed. utterly horriblehttps://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2026-05-11/piccoma-to-launch-short-form-anime-category-in-late-may/.237240
>>288033355>>288033338>>288033282Was censorship second worst thing? Korea is actually censor happy nation so that their gacha and webtoons cannot have bikinis when Japanese anime is getting bikinis and pantyshots returning thanks to Takaichi Sanae's normalization.
>god of highschool>this is the future! this is going to dethrone the big 3 in popularity!!dragon ball wannabe fight recopilation with paper thin characters>tower of god>this is the future! a well-written story with rich worldbuilding and great characters, the best piece of media!!messy story with poorly-made worldbuilding and garbage characters>solo leveling>this is the future! the best fights of all fiction and the coolest mc!!garbage power fantasy for virgins and toddlers
>>288033413It will never shut up until someone blow up that God forsaken island and even then you'd still have to deal with the diaspora
>>288033413Can Korea make a character songs? Solo leveling has no character song at all. Blue archive and Nikke has no character song either. Trickal? Cannot even afford to make a vocal song. Funny that Korea is proud of music but cannot make character songs at all. Why?
>>288032624>what happened to webtoons overall?
>>288033790I have been getting into 80s marvel stuff and I swear that the time needed to read a single issue is the same to read 2 or 3 volumes of an average manga. It's like those meme pages from HxH are the default in western comics.
>>288033159>All the ones that escaped the bootlicking did so by private BBC commissions from the west and their own marketProofs?
>>288032624I have no idea what any of this means. This is not anime thoughever so fuck off from here.
>>288033260>>288033338So they are going from offering less content than manga to offering less content than anime?
>>288034461Because they originally sold the issues individually, so don't want readers finishing things in a couple of minutes.
>>288034758I yet when G.I Joe had a whole issue with no dialogue that any ADHD fag could speedread with no problem it was regarded as the most revolutionary shit at that time
>>288032863But I didn't pirate Korean shit.
>>288032624Their 3DPDshit is more popular anyway.
>>288034896It was adhdfag speedreader cape readers praising it, yes.
>>288032624Gookshit is not anime or manga.
>>288032624South Korea is smaller than Japan so it's only natural.
>Bikini schizo thread
>>288032624So retards are finally getting tired of the unending slop leveling clones? Lol. Shame those undesirable fucks are probably going to come back to anime/manga.
Despite being on the stage shorter than manga, webtroons managed to become more stale, restrictive and formulaic (which is really an astonishing feat I might add). They just abused a specific genre and milked it to death, change or death are inevitable.
If there's one thing I give gookshit credit for is that adult MCs are the rule and not the exception like it usually is in manga, but even that is becoming less of an advantage with the huge amount of ossan manga being made in recent years
>>288032624Koreans only know how to write one character.
>>288036106Hey, leave Jin Woo alone!
>>288032624>KakaoWho?
>>288036106That's wrong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangulhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanja
Korea has never produced a single piece of media worth consuming, including The Breaker.
>>288032624Low birthratesThey barely invest in anime, like, I know Lookism had a netflix but that was batch and rushed, why didn't they invest in their own anime studios to make the sakuga fights lookism get later?
>>288033159Companies wanted people to be>Poorer>Childless>Work for too many hoursSo what do they expect? Entertainment industry was FLOODING because every house has 2 or 3 kids and women spent all morning shopping and consuming instead of being inside and officeSeriously: why is the world so retarded? Ok, you want us to suffer, but you are gonna get less money
>>288032624They are unironically even below generic isekai tier, you can give them budget and that will catch the attention of people at first but nobody is going to follow the webtoons.
>>288032624Pretty depressing. I used to read some of these because they're bullshit with okay eyepoppingly colorful art, like a McDonalds dinner made into a smoothie.But nowadays the art has deteriorated to the point I can't even enjoy that
I would never even consider reading let alone buy a Korean web troon.
>>288032624Don't these guys obsessively go after pirate sites while having a very shit service themselves, people are just going to read manga again
>>288036473Yep, they go after sites and anything that "enable piracy" such as readers or gallery downloaders.Daiz is doing same btw.
>>288032624The only gook comic I read is the one with the gender bender idol because it's actually got good character arcs going for it and the gender bender element is actually used properly to explore MC's issues with his place in society. Why is this like the only manhwa I've read that doesn't eventually read like isekaislop?
>>288036473They cooperate with the Japanese publishers to shut down manga pirate sites.
>>288036372>So what do they expect?Cheaper labor mostly. Companies not in the entertainment industry don't care that people aren't having kids and don't have time for entertainment, because it doesn't affect their bottom line in the short term. In the long term those in charge of the company don't care as they'll be dead by then, and have accumulated enough wealth to last their family for generations. Companies that are in the entertainment industry care only slightly. Mostly because those in charge worry they'll accumulate a generation or two less of wealth than their peers before it all comes crashing down.
>>288032624The issue with Webtoons is how little variety there is. You've read a few and you've read them all. And it is hilarious how they fail to realise this.
>>288036938I like this Baki/Kengan knock off
>>288032624That was never gonna happen. Anime/manga has a repetitive problem but it has an industry that also rewards uniqueness. The ones that don't offer anything new at all won't survive at least not the more mainstream it goes. Webtoons have no such filter. They are all largely copies of copies of copies. And the ones that have any kind of unique trait to them are ignored in favor of the copies. Sometimes even shunned for it.Basically this >>288032838. They took the issues with JP media but didn't leave in anything to nurture actual excellence.The modern webtoon cycle is leagues away from the manhwa days of the past when they were at least making an effort to tell a story.
>>288032863Why would anyone pirate Webtoons? You can literally read them for free on official site. You just pay if you dont want to be delayed on newest chapters, which is like whatever I can wait (not that I care, only one I care about it Lalin´s Curse and that one aint coming back)
>>288032624Soulless chink powerlevel slop is nowhere near entertaining enough to keep longevity. You need actual good writing and art style which chink slop doesn't have.
>>288032624They are so hyper focused it's so funny.At least with isekai, you still get it but with different concept (smartphone, cooking, shopping). If not, then at least different art style. If not, then at least different character/personality.Let's see... All of which gook authors struggle against.
>>288037438Explain all the manga pirate sites being filled with webtoons. Pirates even steal free content.
>>288037477People are retarded, and zoomers are ADHD retarded. What more can I tell you? This is not piracy issue like you are trying to portray it, dumbass.
Isekai general being the biggest Korean advocate will never not be funny
>>288037436>Copy the worst trait and aspects of Other countries works>When they try to give their own spin they created Webtoon format The definition of doomed on arrival
>>288032624It feels like almost every webtoon is same, solo leveling like with same protagonist
>>288036938you should also check out pic related. similar concept with a man turning into a woman
I'm primarily mangafag but gotta admit I read some decent webtoons up to like 8/10 . Nowhere near well acclaimed manga but also far from unreadable.
>>288033413I do think it's funny how people were very quick to start calling the start of Korean dominance when Tower of God, God of High School and Noblesse (which nobody remembers) got adaptations. And then that didn't happen.Solo Leveling is (unfortunately) the only one that made a real smash but dominance can't be done with only one title especially if that whole industry feels like it's half just copies of that same title.
>>288037631this might be more up your alley. it's about a guy in his late 30s struggling to find a girlfriend
>>288037802Sound like chapter 1 MC
>>288032624I don't want to stir shit but which board fits this topic the best? /co/?
>>288033159Also their consumer base is shrinking at a rapid pace
>>288034571Look at the number of jap artists doing cuck shit of their own main manga series.They will ruin their reputation just for some quick cash and then cry that otaku no longer reads their shit.
this one is a comfy rom-com. the ML and FL have good chemistry together
>>288032624They never recovered after hitting Tachiyomi huh
>>288037968tl;dr?
>>288037513They failed to get people use the official apps while pirate sites made a fortune from their content via ads.
>>288037539Korean fans are just confusing to be honest.
>>288032624Good.
read this if you want to be cringed out. the MC is a straight-up incel, talking about Trump and stocks
>manga but even more trashyGee I wonder why
When is Stepmother's Marchen back from hiatus?
>>288037863I browse /co/ and they don't want gookshit there either
>>288038001It only went downhill after thishttps://x.com/kakaoent_pcok/status/1744889648265175197If manhwa hatred was 40 before that, it was 200 in the aftermath.
>>288038127So that's the reason I coudn't find tachi after I got a new tablet. Tough shit, I'm reading their comic books on mihon now.
>>288033413I am baffled by how much people dicksuck Solo Leveling, that property is the epitome of actual genuine garbage with worldbuilding that basically boils down to "It's like an MMO in real life!"Even by isekai standards it's pretty junky, mostly because it's played entirely straight despite how utterly amateurish and dumb it is, I gave that shit a chance for almost 2 seasons, but had to immediately give up when they introduced an actual unironic real world auction house like the world was LITERALLY an MMO, which is just so fucking retarded.But yea, I'm also tired of all the junky manhwa clogging up manga sites, that shit pretty much confirmed that I'm never going to touch anything from that country, especially their annoying as fuck fanbases constantly bitching if I say I don't want to be bombarded with shitty manhwa.
>>288033413Tog failed because they animated poorly s2Still, good thing almost all korean webtoon are shit. not my waif penny, of course
this one is also worth checking out
>>288037438You can only read first few chapters unless you register and use their app. At least you can still read on the actual websites for manga.
Kino thread
there's only so much office NTR i can handle
I was reading from time to time villaines titles and only recently picked action titles like SL, Leviathan, Estate Developer and Pick me Up! All of them seems to be lacking something.
they never learn
some horror
>>288038285ahem
>>288037750>Solo Leveling is (unfortunately) the only one that made a real smashHonestly is Solo Leveling even retaining that popularity? I see even normalfags making fun of it these days and joking about how it puts them to sleep. I feel like all the popularity for it in the west just came from the webtoon art and people turned on it as soon as it got an anime cause it's easier to see how shallow it is when they can't just gawk at the art.
Maybe it's time to watch REAL korean animationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQHJpY8zpPs&list=PLfgck8A5tMETF5buI22xiACq5YZbzKi2u&index=31
I've read few japanese stuff in this format and it was way better, mainly the characters.
>>288038410Most of Solo Leveling's popularity seems to be among third worlders.
>>288032624>I thought they're going to overtake manga.For the billionth time the only people saying that is gook shills. Stop believing shills Also not anime. Can we get a /kr/ already nip moot? I have been asking for 10 years
>>288038462name one then
>>288038546It was still slop and not something I would remember names of.
>>288038171>I am baffled by how much people dicksuck Solo Leveling, that property is the epitome of actual genuine garbage with worldbuilding that basically boils down to "It's like an MMO in real life!"that's just because korea managed to hit an audience with their first exposure to the genre resulting in picrel. like how marvel slop is a lot of people's first exposure to cape shit.
>>288032624I refuse to read manhwa. Not because I have anything against Korea (I love Korean live-action films like Park Chan Wook's and Na Hong Jin's). I just refuse to read manhwa because it's a soulless medium designed for fucking smartphones, and it's negatively affected the paneling. In all the years this shit has been around, I have also seen absolutely nothing creative in the way of character design. Japan has character designs as varied as Guts, Luffy, Goku, Doraemon, Sailor Moon, Kenshiro, Kenshin, etc. What iconic characters have these manhwa produced?
I like this one, it's like Re;zero but the MC has to "git gud" because all of his problems are skill issue.
>>288038595okay, then shut up. why even bring it up?>it was just better. trust me, bro fuck off
>korean manga/lns>everyone is a non-virgin slut and looks/status is everything>chinese manga/lns>ccp worship out of nowhere every few chapters
>>288038698shifting the goalposts: the post
>>288038844>chinese manga/lns>Decent or even good start >Antagonist is evil distopian government who owns everything>Gets popular>Suddenly actually the government is the good guys we swearThis has happened multiple times
Who gives af?Off topic garbage
>>288032624>check every manga piracy site>webtoons are topping every rankingYeah I think they're doing fine. Not sure who's paying for them though
>>288038889I have given up on engaging with all Chinese media outside of the occasional indie game, because every time one of their stories tries to go somewhere interesting they'll inevitably get bitchslapped by the government for wrongthink or mass-reported by [opposing side] and completely gut the story or characters.
>>288038889>>288038945I've literally never seen this, give me some examples. I think you guys are just confused because Chinamen morality is always grey so the group of people you imagined as villains they saw as anti-heroes from the start. And now you're confused why the "villains" are getting redeemed
>>288038945The only exception I have ever seen to this rule is mica because their stories are about Russian v Antarcticans v literally everyone else combined. China doesn't exist anymore so don't ask about them Mr Government
>>288038907>>webtoons are topping every rankingI'm guessing convenience. Not everyone has a tablet and reading manga on a phone screen sucks massive dicks in comparision.
>>288038988That shit happens all the time in Chinese games, especially gachaslop, and Chinese novels, because they're constantly engaging in the same annoying autistic gender culture war we have in the west, but because they live in a surveillance state everyone just immediately mass reports the shit you like whenever they get caught up in some dumb social media bitchfest about men or women.
>>288039074I'm a huge gachaslopper and what the hell are you on about? The controversy is always the same, the characters are too hot and feminists want them censored. Same in China, same here. I've never seen anyone try to censor a character for being too evil or because "stories try to go somewhere interesting", what the hell are you on about. Show skin = get censored, that's all I've ever seenOh and of course there's outrage for NTR and for bad gacha rewards or unfair gacha rates
>>288038988>I've literally never seen thisyou expect the chinese government to delete shit as your consuming it in real time before it counts or what?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIMquB3qgk0
>>288039226>I've never seen anyone try to censor a character for being too evil or because "stories try to go somewhere interesting"Anon, Wuchang Fallen Feathers literally had to censor their game and fuck with half the story because someone in the party was mad about how the game had you killing historical figures during a war.
>>288038203Registration is still free
>>288032624Stop posting gook shit no one care.
>>288039265I've heard about that one but I don't read books. Haven't heard about that in changa and chanime>>288039297>because someone in the party was madProofs? Because what I've seen is review bombing by angry chinamen. They get upset easily you know. And devs can get stabbed in China if fans are upset
>>288038889>>288038945I only read chinese yuri works (and ROTTK) and while censorship does exist, I literally never have seen government wank. My spoiler is even the opposite of that.>>288039297Wuchang is not gacha and doesn't have government wank.
>>288038988Not that anon but I'm reading some chinese webnovel slop about a guy getting isekaid into a parallel universe where he's an abusive father and husband. He slowly tries to get his family's trust back and at some point he becomes a bilibili celebrity because most popular artists/music from his original world don't exist in the isekai world so he can basically 'invent them'.He eventually gets a contract with some discography and his first job is to literally wank the chinese communist party by writing a nationalist song. it felt so out of place and they spent an entire chapter or two just glazing china and its society.
>>288032624This slop factory can't collapse fast enough
>>288032624>try to read gook webtoon or webnovel>kakao DMCA'd it off the internet>lose interest in seriesthey forgot that the western market hinges on piracy in order for word of the series to get to normalniggers. solo leveling would have never gotten as popular as it did if kakao was DMCA'ing it off the internet back when it was being translated
>>288039412>I've heard about that one but I don't read booksthat's not the point retard. you're consuming your gacha slop after it goes through it's government filter and if nothing else the video is proof that the government filter is real. so you're not going to notice shit since everything you know about chinamen morality is propaganda department approved
>>288038844>chinese manga/lns>ccp worship out of nowhere every few chaptersEvery chink media I've seen it's about closet gays who become long-haired ancient gods fighting long-haired ancient gods who become closet gay for the protagonist. That and fluffy furries.
>>288039696How is it different from (((ethic departments))) in the west?
>>288039752>b-but both sides bad?!?lol not even trying anymore fucking tankies
>>288037438i'm not signing up for a website just to read a webtoon, and i have no love for that stamina system they seem to have. i just want to read what i want to read, none of this>read this webtoon to gain 5 bumblefuck coins to unlock a chapter of the thing you actually want to read!pure cancer
>>288033159>>288032723Only a retard would think that manga is in a state of decline.
>>288040111thread is about korean webtoons, genius.
>>288039365nothing is free.
>>288037438Why is it piracy if it's free? I moved the comic page from a webpage to another. I'm not stealing the car.
>>288032723 this was a misclick I meant to reply to this post >>288032813 and this post >>288033159 talking about a decline in Japan.Which never happened.
>>288040144>>288040312
>>288038397>>288038312>>288038190>>288038172All fucking shit. Webtoon is an ugly format and Korea peaked 20 years ago
>>288032863according to some studies it's the opposite. the more people that are talking about a thing, the more people who never would have heard about it turning into customers.
I admit that i bought coins for webtoons just to see the Shin Angyo Onshi Webtoon ending I fucking regret it
>>288040357Now explain how movies and webtoons are comparable.
>>288040111I think it will be soon, i.e, within a handful of years, but that's just due to the fact that infinite growth is unsustainable. This is especially true with the manga market becoming increasingly saturated with absolute shit (read: adaptations of every terrible isekai and/or romcom and/or revenge fantasy slop light novel). With that being said, there's no doubt that the manga industry is bigger than its ever been and will very likely experience more growth before it begins to decline. It's become undeniably one of the most pervasive entertainment markets worldwide. I used to dream of days like this. Now I've learned the cost of my hubris and that we should get gatekept harder.
>>288040493I think the moment manga begin to get more decline, world war 3 would break and at that point it won't just be a decline but a free fall
>>288040493>It's become undeniably one of the most pervasive entertainment markets worldwide.>90% of the content of the content is only available in Japanese
>>288032624Why so much white space?
>>288040479consumable digital media that spreads by word of mouth. anecdotally the fact that gooktoons that were booming in popularity have been in decline ever since kakao took a hard stance against piracy.
>>288040746Is watching movies in a theatre the same as using a webtoon app?
>>288040746Webtoons were never booming financially.
>>288040799manga has found a similar correlation to movies post-theatre where piracy keeps people talking about it after the initial people who were interested from the getgo have seen it. similarly, completed manga series only gain from having piracy keeping word of mouth spreading about it after completion
>>288039949>b-but both sides bad?!?yes
>>288040539LMAO just don't participate in the war
>>288033184>No bikinis allowed in anime and Korean games
>>288040825A ten year old study specifically about the Japanese market isn't very convincing. Back then there weren't as many legit options for digital consumption.
>>288040825anyways, it would seem that after around half a year, the chapter being available for free would have a positive effect on sales.
>>288039949>b-but both sides bad?!?Yes?
>>288040931ignore the bikinischizo like everyone else did
>literally who news article screenshot>gookshitwhy is this thread still up
>>288040062can't you just scroll down quickly to the bottom or does it actually track how long it takes for you to read
>>288041367wouldn't know to find out, i have never signed up for one of their sites, i just see the account and that currency shit and close tab
>>288037953>jap artists doing cuck shit of their own main manga serieshuh? i only know the uzai senpai and the magician girl teasing one
Nothing of value will be lpst
>>288038988Sure thing chang
>>288032624Koreans just aren't great storytellers. I think that people understate the quality of raw gameplay of Korean games before they get absolutely wrecked by horrible monetization, but Nikke is literally the only time that I've seen good writing from the Koreans.
>>288042360>the only time that I've seen good writing from the Koreans.>NikkeIs this this a sarcasm?
>>288042360>/v/ermins acting as if the world resolve around them Your Gookshit sucks, Your Chinkshit sucks, Your Gookshills and Chinkshills are a bunch of opportunistic, backstabbing wolf in a sheep clothing who ruined censorship free movement. That doesn't mean other media doesn't have a good Gookshit and Chinkshit
>>288038500>>288038410Why does solo leveling lack cosplay and doujins tho? And their merch sale isn't good either.
>>288032624It's shit just like this thread.
>>288038410>>288036160Why does solo leveling lack fanarts, cosplay and doujins spite the popularity? And they lack merch sales too. And solo leveling narikiri sets like DX night killer either. Why is Chalia Bull more popular than Sung Jin Woo according to danbooru? sung jin woo supposed to be a perfect man who could appeal to fujo but he cannot.
It's simply the art format. It fucking sucks actually. Vertical scrolling is hell for visual-text art and story telling.
webtoon need to disappear. Literally not a single good one has been made to date. This industry is glorified slop
>>288042360>Nikke is literally the only time that I've seen good writing from the Koreans
>>288032624no soul no sales
>>288043835And Nikke lacks bikinis in 2025 due to Lee Jae Myung's censorship. Which would be hit by Jae Myung's censorship next?
>>288033184
>>288043373>>288043835>HURRR EVERYTHING SUCKS ESPECIALLY POPULAR THINGS I'M SO SMARTThe characters are charming. The comedy can be funny. It can turn the intensity up. The setting is interesting.
>>288032624I like the pornwha onesI've read a bunch of themIt's funny when the guy fucks everything up and then runs away to do his military service I never really considered that being the get out of jail free reset card before but it's pretty effectivebut yeah I've never read the mainstream ones. I never even tried reading Solo Levelling.
>>288043907
>>288032624Don't worry, this is the first phase, just like manga. Get ready for the 3rd phase just like Manga
>>288032624Whatever you say, the format and coloring is great, I wish I could read manga the same way.
>gooks strike down manga sites hosting gookshit>no new potential customers finding your gookshit stories and becoming a fancrazy fucking concept
Why is bikinischizo always in these threads
>>288043944>No bro you don't get it, MY gacha has a great cast, colorful characters with deep motivations, amazing setting that has never been done before, and a story that starts rough but eventually gets super good I promise, not to mention all those great character designs and that cool soundtrack that sets it apart form other gachas!It's the same song and dance with every gachafag
>>288044086I don't know, i like the color pastel they choose, but it lacks of shading.
>>288044589Pardon the intrusionin a fight that isn't mine but not all gachas are the same, Uma Musume is powered by horse autism and Trickal is nothing but cheeks and empty thoughts.Not all gachas are the same, at least trickal makes me laugh with how stupid everyone is.
>>288032624Webtoons are basically just rom com and slice of life shit we've been consuming in anime for 30 years
I am of the opposite thought of bikinischizo. Webtoons always seems like they have a more pandering culture and I can't imagine that even more chuddish lads won't get bored of that shit and move on to other things. A desire for novelty is as powerful as nostalgia is. Those who don't possess that lust and gluttony are Disney Adults.
>>288038844>Western comic>Multi-culti, globo-homo, kosher kabal worship every other chapter
>>288044708>my hecking wholesome chungus game is above criticism unlike all others because of how goofy and silly it is teeheeFuck you in particular
>>288044589Your gacha? garbageMy gacha?>No bro you don't get it, MY gacha has a great cast, colorful characters with deep motivations, amazing setting that has never been done before, and a story that starts rough but eventually gets super good I promise, not to mention all those great character designs and that cool soundtrack that sets it apart form other gachas!
>>288032624Anime/manga make a looooot of money from merch, but webtoons rely entirely on readership of their generic and oft indistinguishable shitWhile I agree with the general consensus that Japanese isekai is oversaturated with low-quality bullshit, anyone would agree that they are infinitely more distinct than system or villainess regression webtoons because they HAVE to put a special twist in the title to stand out, whereas webtoons get endlessly consumed either wayAlso, consider the fact that you see high quality merchandise for isekai like Mushoku Tensei, Konosuba, Overlord, SAO, Shield Hero or whatever the fuck, but across the entirety of webtoon you'd really only see merchandise for Solo Leveling and Lore Olympus. Those are their 2 most distinct franchises and the former only stood out because the webtoon's art was good enough for it to get popular and be adapted into an anime (not even Korean aeni because that lacks prestige)
>>288040937>*reads neither since they're both bad*ok?
Korean webtoons don't have their own moe Kirara types so they automatically suck
>>288045252Your Korean product? GarbageMy Korean product? Good, very good
>>288043944Did I say I hate everything?
>>288046073Korean webtoons don't have mecha so they automatically suck
We need to deploy more Johnny Somalis into Korea
>>288046199
>>288046229if that makes them stop being so "americanized" then i wholeheartedly agree
>>288046292
Because gooks are shitter than nips.Once the euphoria phase has finished, everyone will forget about gooks. Just like their k-pops. After the big fight between idols and agency to the point it needed to be brought to gook parliament, no one cares about k-pops anymore.
>>288046347the saddest thing is that between the 70s and late 2000s mecha anime used to be omnipresent like isekai is today. I blame the CGi for making robots that look like crap
>>288032624Are there even any good ones besides Hand Jumper?
>>288032863Funny, because gook manga kills piracy sites
Korean webtoons are the very definition of slop
>>288046380It's always funny seeing Gook poster go "Hurr you're not even Japanese" or "Why are you hating on Koreans, those asians are the same" whenever someone shit on Korea as if this place didn't shit on the Nips every single day
>>288046292Those kids are probably nearing 30 now.Fuck...
>>288046580Personally if i was a Japanese I would unironically hesitate to insult Koreans but because I'm not Japanese and I have more contribution to their industry than 95% of Korean shills, I never hesitate.
It's quite telling when you realized that Korea is actually the worst among those of the East Asian.
>>288036938I'm enjoying this one. The other one I'm reading is Mia has Returned.Even the better manhwa do bring up a lot of the issues with the industry there though. Older manhwa like Annarasumanara, or even mainstream shit like Tower of God were driven by creative interest before webtoons became industrialized and took advantage of their comic medium in fresh ways manga couldn't. Even straight up pornhwa had some clear expression behind it in the early days because Koreans didn't have outlets to work with due to their censorship laws.Putting aside matters like whether writing standards or talent has changed, the actual consistent loss even in modern manhwa that I do like is the increasing digitization. Now that people "get" the scrolling format, no one really does anything worthwhile with it. Composition has gotten weak across the board even in the series with good art and writing and everything has become so consistent it's a lot more boring. You even see manhwa that seems to be edited AI now, and I don't even hate AI on principle or anything but it's just kind of lame how clean everything has become.
>>288046608how old is that k-on arcade machine?
>>288032624webtoons are utter shit, a manga conveys more information in fewer pages and is far less annoying to read, that's BEFORE we get to the objective quality of the utter garbage that koreans put out.
>>288046808They took the worst aspects of Japan and China and crank it up to maximum
>>288032624oh man no, I need tall dudes with short black hair that are the best at everything aaaaaaaplease die.
>>288046808Unfortunately they also have the biggest Inferiority complex and make us the target of their lashing out
>>288046445bro, there's plenty of recs in this thread. stop being a lazy faggot
>>288047377I thought those were the philipinos
>>288032624How is webtoon declining?All of my colleagues in office prefer to read webtoon over manga because they don't know how to read manga and don't bother to learn after tiring days of work.
>>288047562Because none of your colleagues pay for webtoons and ad revenue is drying up because every company is dumping all of their money into AIslop.
>>288032624>Bro don't you want to see KIM YOUNGGOOK in his EPIK BATTLE against his SCHOOL BULLIES who were mean to him in chapter 1??? What do you mean bro????? THE SYSTEM made KIM YOUNGGOOK COOL AND SPECIAL kind of like you could be if you had THE SYSTEM and you could beat your school bullies up too>and you could drive COOL SPORTS CAR despite being able to literally fly around the city and shit>wouldn't it be COOL to have COOL STATUS SYMBOLS like COOL SPORTS CARS??? What do you mean this isn't the sickest shit ever bro???>Also you could KILL PEOPLE YOU DON'T LIKE who are evil ANYWAY!! And you could SAVE SEXY WOMEN who will then WANT SEX from EVIL PEOPLE!! THE SYSTEM helps KIM YOUNGGOOK do this!>BRO PLEASE IT GETS GOOD IN CHAPTER 2487 WHEN KIM YOUNGGOOK FIGHTS SON CHINGCHONG IN THE CHAEBOL DUNGEON AND SAVES HIS 9TH WIFE PLEASE BRO JUST KEEP SCROLLING BRO PLEASEI have described no gook webtoon, yet I have described all of them.
>>288047562All 5 of your colleagues mean nothing, there are billions out there and they prefer manga over webtoon
>>288046808Why do you think they call it worst korea?
>thread still up>bikinischizo not bannedBravo 4channel.org
Do gookos even print weebtons like Japanese tankobon? I can see why it would be declining, imagine if I was the biggest Solo Wanking fan I wouldn't be able to buy a print version to have in my display. What about figurines for that matter?
>See some gook trashing manga in social media>See his profile>His favorite k-drama is some isekai revenge stories where mc become chaebol's son and bully everyone after previously was a poorfag and committed sudoku after was bullied by a chaebol's sonkeklmao
>>288036236The Breaker was worth consuming.
>>288047755It really is dime a dozen. Gooks aren't capable of reflecting, which is why their dogshit society is the way it is. They're basically just pale jeets but their society is matriachal instead of patriachal. Jeets also love pointless sadism and izzatfarming.
>>288047829>but their society is matriachal instead of patriachalWhat?
>>288047919You are genuinely retarded if you think a shithole like gookland is patriachal at this point.They may have been patriachal in the past, but not anymore.
>>288047919>>288047961>matriachal country>lowest birth rate in the worldWhat does this imply?
>>288032624Korea will only continue to get mogged in every conceivable way by Japan. They just can't do jack shit. Even their biggest entertainment export (K-Pop) gets mogged by Japanese music being objectively better. Alien-faced K-rats can go eat shit and die.
>>288048110>Even their biggest entertainment export (K-Pop) gets mogged by Japanese music being objectively better.Where do you live, anon?Because here in SEA only male losers like Japanese music.
>>288047418I mean among the East Asians.
>>288048176>SEA The land full of male losers?
>>288047755Gookfags who bash other countries and proud of their Nation tend to have a really horrendous taste in Koreans for some reason
>>288048176>SEA's Male losersYou have to be more specific
>>288048110How can they not getting mogged in quality when instead of taking the chance to deliver something good when everyone else are declining, they decided to shit the bed as well and choose to hire shills instead
>>288048176>SEAnigger>"Only losers like <music I don't like>!!1"Please just kill yourself and be done with it already.
>>288048176https://youtu.be/pK3n3OQxp8II can only say from my part that we're already connected decades ago before the anime fever hit the world.
>>288047740Japanese are printing less and less volumes and the manga industry is doing fine. People pay to read something and not to show off, therefore digital is a better solution for them.
>oversupply with the same shit>be surprised it has low demandNow I wish retarded manga sites stop uploading webcomics so they'll have more space and make themselves less of a target when DMCAs for webtoons gets hot.
>>288048361>People pay to read something and not to show offsure, and I bet digital is very convenient for reading as well as a "new" thing. But there surely are people that wait for a full volume rather than buying a magazine they don't care about or paying online.What I understand is that, format aside, nobody would pay for webtoon shit
>>288048364>Now I wish retarded manga sites stop uploading webcomics so they'll have more space and make themselves less of a target when DMCAs for webtoons gets hot.you know you can just ignore a DMCA if you live in a free country?
Too many System too many Constellation slop too many regressors
Their seniority society is also cranked up to max unlike chinks and nips.Only in gookland, born 1 week earlier means you are more senior than your peers. At least in chinks and nips you need to born 1 year earlier to be considered more senior.
Reminder that kpop unironically destroy /mu/ until it was beyond saving
>>288032624>aggressive combat against piracy>niggers and browns stop discovering webtoons>webtoons in turn decline in popularity which then corresponds to lost salesThey really have all but themselves to blame. Fucking greedy gooks.
>>288048524qrd? I would think any board on 4chan can withstand a trashy fad like kpop
>>288048564Are you new? the kpop general has been there since 2016
>>288048564>>>/mu/kpop8 threads, none of which is at the image limit.
>>288032624Another decisive victory for piracy.
>>288048583>Are you new?to /mu/? Yes, I went there once, saw a Fantano picture first thing and closed the board
>>288048564Basically they have the fastest moving general on a pretty much slow board that eats up other threads.
>>288032624Once fujoshits had taken over the platform, its growth was sure to falter.
>>288048619Females are a safer source of income.
>>288032624The only non-Japanese comics I respect are BD
>>288033184>Korean gamesMate, there is a fuckton of smutty ass korean gacha. Just look at Last origin for example.
>>288048564>check Kpop for the first time because of the Kpop Demon Hunters movie>it's all a huge rehash of late 90s/early 2000s american pop like Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Backstreet Boys and NSYNCit's like the entire country never had an single independent thought
>>288048782>it's like the entire country never had an single independent thoughtit must be something in the water I swear
>>288048782I want to go back
>>288044791But why does Korean webtoon lack swimsuit episodes tho? No bikini scene in Korean webtoons. And Umamusume shows more skin than any coomerbait in Korea as BA, Nikke, Stellar blade lack bikinis spite most right wingers in West claim that Japan is censor happy and Korea and China are more free.
>>288039226Yeah. No wonder why Korean webtoons and games cannot have bikinis. Either BD or BA will be hit by Lee Jae Myung's censorship next.
>>288036938Same, I tried reading other webtoon and it feels like they just blend together without any distinctive trait.
What's this bikini schizo's problem? Did he get raped by a gook or something?
>>288049142Get raped by a Jap's tiny dick and he tries to defend his gook master from all the ass whooping
>>288048524It kind of blows my mind that the world's largest hobby has a dead as fuck board on this site.
>>288048782To be fair KDH was made by Westerners. It's like saying You like China and want to know more about them because you like Sleeping Dogs and Maomao show
>>288032624Webtoon, Manwha and K-animation industry saw a boost thanks to western anime licensers trying to sell it as an anime alternative. With Crunchyroll's fall constantly accelerating there's just nobody willing to promote this thing.Also, Korean stories are extremely repetitive and boring. While one could say the same about Japanese isekai stories, at least they try to have some novelty over literally the same guy aurafarming in some MMORPG for 100000 chapters in every webtoon.Also, Korean internal industry is volatile and prone to self-destructing due to everything in South Korea being heavily managed and controlled by the government. Try to operate any company when government can drop another bunch of regulations on your head any fucking moment.>>288033637>Blue Archive has no character songs.Blue Archive is in this weird state where it's more of Japanese-style franchise mostly promoted in Japan but made by Gooks and in fact, it gets character song CDs AND drama CDs AND DJ events AND soon will get its first virtual concert. Putting it into this discussion is pretty fucking pointless, especially that you seems to have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
>>288049156Korean man dick is 6.9cm anyway.
>>288048506Unlike chinks and nips Korea never went through a reform period like the meiji restoration. They were still sucking Confucius's cock when Japan kicked down their door.
>>288048782>it's all a huge rehash of late 90s/early 2000s american pop like Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Backstreet Boys and NSYNC This would be a much better option than whatever the fuck K-Pop is doing nowadays
I find it funny how Koreans are the ones who coined the term "Stop Asian Hate"
>>288048782>it's all a huge rehash of late 90s/early 2000s american pop like Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Backstreet Boys and NSYNCKpop is all tiktok music. Seriously, you'd be hard pressed to find a kpop song longer than 3 minutes.
>>288049193And censorship ruined webtoon too. Cuz Korea bans bikinis from comics, animations and games. No manhwa, K-animation(KDH is Canadian so doesn't count) and K-games have bikinis. While Japanese anime is having fanservice returning by Takaichi fighting for freedom of expression, spite video game devs are filled with Busayos so that normalizing them won't be easy... and Korea would suffer from more censorship thanks to leftist feminist being a president, framing right winged president as "treason" and throwing him in jail for life sentence.
>>288049198Speaking of that, I guess this is also an issue - while Japanese and Chinese media consumers have their quirks, Gooks are especially volatile and prone to turning into violent beasts over minor bs.>Oh no, this female character kinda sorta did wrong hand gesture? Lets start online petition to torture and execute artist that did that! The KPop star said something mildly offensive? FUCKING DISEMBOWEL THIS BITCH!Korea can't develop any legit culture because it has no real people.
Don't netflix make manwha adaptations these days>>288049142He is a tranny (not kidding, he was doxxed and had to hide profile)He is also a massive nintendo fanboy who spams blacked in non nintendo waifu threads
>>288049231>>288049256No wonder why Koreans cannot make character songs spite Korea is proud of music. BA, Nikke, Trickal(they would be short in budget) lack chara song. But is Kamen rider anime?
>>288049272But they turned over nintendo when nintendo banned bikinis from third parties in 2026. Pic half related, as it implies bikini ban from Japanese console games by nintendo.
>>288049285You never attack nintendo
>>288049293That bikinischizo made this pic after switch 2's price hike shitting on nintendo for bikini ban from 3rd parties and more.
>>288048586When will Hiro make another Asian media board? Kpop and Kdrama/movie could go there with manwah and other Asian shit if anyone cares.
>>288049268As I pointed out here >>288049207Korea is basically a medieval society raped by the Japs and turned into an American puppet state. Samsung is like a 5th of their GDP. They have the largest gender disparity in terms of employment of all countries in the OECD. Most of their presidents were arrested or impeached. It's a fucked country.
>>288049335>Hiro make another Asian media boardIt should have been done a decade ago when Korea started marketing its shit to the West.
>>288049336I guess that explain why the most profitable "Korean" franchise are all mostly created and marketed with Japanese consumers in mind.Something like Blue Archive is really Korean just by technicality. Tho maybe it's because they also attempt to skirt around Korea's draconian censorship laws.
>>288049335The people in those threads don't care about the media.
>>288049461It doesn't matter as it's a containment board.
>>288049433But BA doesn't earn that much for spite the number of fanart and comicket booth, while Maplestory earns more money. Why?
>>288049461Kdrama threads in /tv/ are actually on topic more often then not. It's the kpop subhumans who just make threads to talk about fucking idols.
>>288049285>>288049273bikinischizo, return whence you came>https://web.archive.org/web/20250603063401/https://www.reddit.com/user/Ok-Consequence6750/
>>288049513Does it?You must also count that BA makes probably much more on all the damn merch and events. The game sure makes literal pennies and devs are desperate to conjure some whale baits lately, but on greater scale I think they are doing fine. I did not saw faggots with 20+ maple story plushies taking photos with fucked up food and telling people to never kill themselves.
>>288032624>Naver and Kakao are both seeing declining sales.>>Earlier this year, both Naver and Kakao's webtoon businesses experienced negative growth.good. webtoons should be banned on /a/ for the great good.
>>288049534Because /tv/ has some moderation trying to limit the amount of celeb threads./hr/ is the real victim.
>>288032624>I thought they're going to overtake manga.the united states have been trying to push worst korean products over japanese products while also imitating japanese products and choking them products with "international sensibilities" throught their streaming servicesit just so happen that webtoons are so incestous that they are not appealing at all. successful korean products literally try to appeal to the japanese market
>>288049285>>288049315>>>/v/pls.and /vr/ /his/.you never bet against nintendo. they always won even when they censored more due to catering for USA market back in the NES and SNES days.begging the question: why are the losers(playstation of commiefornia HQ and xboners) of the console war censoring more now? that only hurts them.
>>288049644>successful korean products literally try to appeal to the japanese marketor to third worlders, i.e. south/southeast asiansgo on any manga aggregation sites and check the comments of a random popular manhwa there, you'll notice certain patterns
>>288049563I heard that maplestory and DFO gives nexon lots money spite being PNG collecting online while BA bleeds, as BA is barely on sales ranking.
>>288049563>>288049715BA is proof that fanart doesn't correlate with sales. at least at dj level
>>288049715Mapplestory and DFO are MMORPGs and while this kind of games is not super popular anymore, people still playing them are exclusively whales stuck on sunk-cost fallacies and nostalgia. Both games are also kinda sorta already developed and running them costs literal pennies.BA as a game is not really making any money, especially that again, it has little to no whale money sinks. But it's making huge money on merch and side promotions and that part of it is constantly growing. It's just completely different business model and it's impossible to compare them.
>>288032624Manga industry will be the next as their birth rate and literacy declining.
>>288049752Besides, how do we count sales for F2P gacha game?>>288049764Their birth rates and literacy is declining for last 50 years or so and nothing absolutely is coming out of it.
I don't understand how people can read the long strip format. >scroll>scroll>scroll>words>scroll>scroll>scroll>wordshurts my fingers.
>>288049715it's got a loyal player base, and reliable profits are always a good thing>https://pdf.irpocket.com/C3659/YpwX/MxJ9/q7uK.pdftl;dr>blue archive ranks #3 in nearly every country (even china), and in the rest of the world as a whole>#1 in japan>#5 in koreaonly 1/4 of their revenue is from mobile, and in mobile gaming revenue the heavy hitters are korea and china (japan earns them very little)but considering their rankings of each game, blue archive probably makes more money from china than korea
I've only read one webtoon I didn't immediately hate, and that's The Greatest Estate Developer. A gem in a river of shit.
>>288049778https://revenue.ennead.cc/revenueBA is currently 47th on this list and is still going down, which is not great but it's not a complete tragedy for a 6 years old game that never had any serious whale sinks. And again, that's just game itself, I'm not sure if I can even find their overall franchise revenue but from what I see people buy BA shit en masse. >>288049834Yeah, this BAfag pointed it out better. They make shit from mobile game itself but are doing very well overall. I guess their popularity in China comes from the fact that China had full story mode dubbing from the start and gets massive amount of exclusive materials like fully animated trailers.
>>288049778Shut up. Korea's birth rate is 0.8x. Korea is suffering more of this. And unlike Korean webtoon which is ruined by censorship, Japanese manga has freedom of expression to have bikinis and pantyshots. Manga market is growing more according to this site. Manga market-16.15B(2024), 17.7B(2025)Webtoon market-3.96B(2024)https://www.imarcgroup.com/manga-market
>>288049764https://www.imarcgroup.com/manga-marketIt says that manga market is rising from 16.15B to 17.7B. Is Korea's 0.8X birthrate more outstanding? Worry about Korea's birthrate and unemployment rate issue first.
>>288049921>S-shut up!Gook?Don't cry, little larvae.
>>288049966But isn't Korea's birthrate even worse? 0.8x.
>>288032624>gook-kusowho cares
>>288049977I mean, yeah...But with Gook's government they may or may not just announce forced insemination project or some shit. Tho there may be some tiny problem with Korean men, huhuh...
>>288049997Lee Jae Myung is feminist so he won't like this either.
>>288049921Return to Reddit, SEAmonkey >>288049558
>>288048821>it must be something in the waterI acknowledge your joke good sir
>>288049706>go on any manga aggregation sites and check the comments of a random popular manhwaI have better things to do with my life
>>288050009Even feminist's knees will buckle up under the weight of their country's economic disaster. And forcing men to become government's sperm dispensers is a pure feminist dream.
>>288050074And this says that Manga market has grown from 16.15B(2024) to 17.7B(2025) unlike the title they presented.https://www.imarcgroup.com/manga-market
Can you faggots all fuck off already
Good doujinshi of Asuna to masturbate then sleep?
>>288050105No you
>gookshit>gookshit game>gookshit poop>gookshit gachaWhat is a gookshit fucking thread
>>288050140No one gives a fuck what one janny said FOURTEEN years ago Mario
>>288032624>>288036473Gabe once said:>Provide a good service and they won't stealThat's it. If you provide a service that's great for the customer they'll use it.The interview with his stance on Piracy will always stay relevant because of the official service being crap, the pirate sites being better or both.Putting aside the quality of the work whether it's good or not, Webtoon is making it a chore more and more.
>>288049874>Gookshit ripoff Japan game, anime and manga>chink and gook has full dubbing from the start and gets massive amount of exclusive materials like fully animated trailers>Jap still not even voicedKek Japs are literally cucks. They should’ve banned all gook trash
>>288049834No one give a fuck about your wapanese gacha, your gook gacha adaption is worser than dogshit
>>288049563>You must also count that BA makes probably much more on all the damn merch and events
>>288050199relax esl-kun, i don't even play it. i just like learning about businesses
>>288050218>Literally tranny archive
>>288039226loliterally snowbreak you disingenuous cunt
>>288039949Bro, (((forced diversity))) got so bad in the US that they elected the most retarded president over it. And he didn't even solve the issue in a lasting way, the moment he's gone, I fully expect (((diversity))) to come back.And you can see right fucking now in the US that telling the truth about god's chosen people will net you in prison.Everyone censor, you've been just trained to bitch about it when China is doing it and accept it when your government is doing it, which is the entire reason why most people wont do shit despite being aware of the shit their own government is doing.
>>288033637>Nikke has no character song eitherWhy are you lying? Tons of Nikke characters get character songs.
>>288045040>>288044589>retards shitting on this as if light novels aren't the same thing
>>288051392You're speaking to bikinischizo, a redditor who regularly makes things up and ignores the hundreds of people who try to correct him.
>>288032624>Kakao losing moneyGood.Never have I seen a publisher so evil they overworked an author untill miscarriage and not even give her time to grieve after that.
>>288051392>>288049273>>288050027Why you lying nigger?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTogyN87-L4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q7oTJ-X3zYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB7i6JnIdlEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYNJMVh2LSQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wt5_a7vT7Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxfHZHgmvl4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VX6i6PKtlkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopHtdnCLg4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0PDL2RKaYEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlS4dQwYa8Mhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBlPdGjA6eA
>>288045040There's a reason why China gacha players, especially Genshinfags, hate Trickcal.
>>288047616You forgot>Random jabs at JapanWhen it happened in SL, shills were quick to say that Japan did the same and yet, they couldn't give a single example
>>288048176>SEAnigger thinks it's relevantLol
>>288037438they timelock them, no? every new chapter is only up for like 2 weeks and you have to pay to read backthat's the model for a lot of jp manga at least
>>288049734We've known since forever that popularity doesn't equate sales.Just look at the people who wank 80s anime, despite their popularity, most of them ended being a deficit and when they didn't, they didn't make enough money to be worth a continuation.Moe overtook the industry for a reason, even if it was niche as fuck, people who like cute girls are actually willing to spend money.Gacha's popularity is the culmination of that.
Having never read manhwa before, I've started reading pornhwa for the past month and my thumb is starting to hurt. I hate the format so much
>>288051800Gooks are even worse with same face and body than japan. Literally why do this to yourself
>>288036938>genderbenderYou could say that you're trans
>>288051835Nah. I want to fuck a genderbent man. At worst you can call me a fag
I never liked gookshitIt all just felt "off" even if the art was betterLike a piece of luxury furniture that was hollowed out by termites but looked fine from the outsideIts weird but I just have to look at a manga or webtoon and immediately knowDo you know the anime and manga "freezing"? I was really hyped for the anime back in the day, but having never read the manga. I watched the first episode and it was obviously clear it was a gookshit anime. I never watched it further. I just have a sense, I can smell out gookshit like a houndGook media feels hollow, there's nothing inside.
>>288032624Keep seething lol. Korean manhwas aren't all good, but it's miles ahead of your JP romcom slop full of wimp and inoffensive MCs
>>288051826There are various manhwa cliches that I am learning about and dislike, but one thing I like is that in pornhwas tsunderes and stone cold girls are very satisfying because given the format that needs to deliver porn every release or almost, they actually go from unapproachable to dere to sex and sometimes to preggo
>>288051499What a dogshit companyNo wonder nobody wanted a baby
>>288051826as with most things there's a few good ones, but so much of it is unappealing that i almost never bother to search for the good ones
>>288051499iirc the editor who forced her to do that was also a woman
That's what you get for cracking down on pirates.
>>288051875The whole industry is influenced heavily by its creators cribbing from their japanese counterparts. It's an unintentionally weird mixture of anime cliches with korean culture and mannerisms, like how american "anime" like RWBY/Avatar/Netflixshit feels "off" as well.
>>288052046>iirc the editor who forced her to do that was also a womanFeministbros...
>>288052046Who took maternity leave to rub even more salt into the wounds of the poor author.
>>288051517don't reply to bikini schizo, he'll think he's people
>>288052046Duh. Only a woman could be that evil to their fellow countryman
The only thing worth getting carpal tunnel syndrome from.
>>288051887>Need to stoop as low as JP Romcom just to make Korean Manhwa looks "good" (It doesn't)
>>288051947this series got axed too soon. we didn't even get a threesome with mother and daughter
>>288052198*Korean Webtoons
>>288051499Fuck, that was for Roxana right? I really like that series so the shit Kakao pulled deserves Karma.
I want to believe that Manhwafags who hate JP are just Chinese bugs using Korean webtoons as a cudgel to their anti Japanese cred.
>>288032624All the big manhwa houses push out mass produced recent trend's mainstream crap of isekai and cookie cutter kdrama romcom and churn them out at impossible rates and while some would say manga does the same, its anime that chose those crappy genres and started to see a decline while trad manga houses have stuck to the basics of universal old gold and stayed steady. Not to mention the art of webtoons is styleless slop while manga's art is specib to it's artist, dynamic and raw.
>>288051411And people here shit on modern light novel
>>288052262Manhwafags who hate JP are just people who have a shit taste in Korea. I mean everytime someone shill a Korean products by saying that it's better than Japshit, the product always end up being literal trash
>>288052262the chinese also hate koreans and prefer their own shit. basically the entirety of east asia is like that, the only country there that serves as a proxy for their battles is taiwanusually the manhwa readers complaining about manga are seamonkeys and jeets like >>288051887
>>288052377Chinks actually consume Manhwa a lot. The infamous manjiao aesthetic was inspired from Korean Manhwas
>>288052392>inspired from Korean ManhwasI thought it was from K-Pop, but I guess it doesn't matter since they're both within the same cultural sphere. In any case, we all should've learned from cosplays that drawn designs don't translate too well into reality.
>>288052461Probably the more likely reason why manhwa sales are down is because China has a burgeoning domestic comic scene now (that keeps getting repeatedly kneecapped by the CCP from time to time). Maybe Kakao should wait until the CCP cracks down on "non-harmonious" media again, including subculture goods.
>trying to compete in an art form with a different cultureThey lost before they even begun.
>>288052482>burgeoning domestic comic sceneWebtoon
Why can't they make variety of premises? Manga have bunch of them
>>288052262Most of the people who come to /a/ to bitch about anime and manga and shill manhwa or manhua are neither Korean nor Chinese, most of them are SEA and SA.This is why Korean webtoons are losing money, because the majority of people shilling them online are pirates from poor non-western countries who don't actually have the money to *pay* for the webtoons they read.
>>288032624As much as I dislike gooks, the actual problem for me is the vertical scrolling layout. Even on a phone it's awful. Who thought that was an acceptable format for comics?
>>288052262Anon, korea literally has protest march where they seethe against Japan.
Are there any manwhas that don't end up in power fantasy?
>>288051343>And you can see right fucking now in the US that telling the truth about god's chosen people will net you in prisonlies. Free speech is protected by the constitution.Say something badnl in China and you get disappeared
>in japan you get isekaied into fantasy world >in gookland you are reborn as CEO's son or get special powers in a world that has Korea but with dungeons.Really shows the difference between societies and how materialistic gooks are.
>>288053547But it doesn't protect you from dying socially.Different methods, same goals.And the US have it good, it's even worse in Europe.
>>288051549>china hates it, therefore it's goodsorry I'm not a retarded amerigolem
>>288032624Isn't that most because they are mostly the same? I know manga can get repetitive, but webtoons do that far more.
>>288053165scroll through the thread >>288037802you fuckers just want to complain
>>288052712there's plenty of manhwa that don't have generic premises. you just don't care to seek them out, because you want to blindly hate on a whole medium
>>288053818you can easily separate the wheat from the chaff. if the title is overly long and the cover is too flashy, it's 99% of the time garbageif not, it's a toss-upyou guys will click on "I regressed yadda yadda and became the world's strongest magician in dungeonland Korea with 9999 power" and then bitch that it turns out to be shit. no kidding
https://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=244933>Korean webtoon companies are facing a dilemma. As the growth of the domestic market continues to slow down, they are withdrawing from overseas markets due to continued losses>Kakao Entertainment’s webtoon platform Podo Comics, operated in China in collaboration with Tencent, will terminate its service on July 1. The company entered the Chinese market, the world’s second-largest content market, in 2021. It is ending its operations after four years due to problems such as illegal webtoon distribution. Kakao Entertainment also ceased its webtoon services in Indonesia and Taiwan last year. Another Kakao Group company, Kakao Piccoma, liquidated its European subsidiary last year.>NHN has also decided to terminate its webtoon service Pocket Comics in English-speaking countries and France in October this year. Riding on the global growth of the webtoon market, NHN had expanded its services to Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam, and Germany, but has wrapped up all these operations since last year. NHN plans to operate its Korean webtoon platform Comico only until October this year and focus on its business in Japan, the largest comic market.
>>288054668>Korean webtoon companies, which entered overseas markets seeing growth potential, are closing their businesses one after another due to lower-than-expected revenues. At the same time, in markets such as Europe, where print culture still dominates, Korean webtoon companies are struggling to gain traction.>To make matters worse, the growth of the domestic webtoon market is also slowing down. According to the “2024 Webtoon Industry Survey” report by the Korea Creative Content Agency, the total sales of the domestic webtoon industry in 2023 recorded 2.189 trillion won. Although it exceeded 2 trillion won for the first time since records began, the industry is more concerned that the market will shrink from its peak in 2023, rather than being optimistic. In fact, the growth rate of the domestic webtoon market in 2023 (19.7%) has significantly decreased compared to 2021 (48.6%) and 2020 (64.7%). The number of works registered on domestic webtoon platforms as of last year also decreased by 6.7% to 18,792 from the previous year (20,141).
https://www.koreaherald.com/article/10548212>It also unfolds as the country's web comic industry faces stagnating growth and setbacks overseas. Webtoon Entertainment, Naver Webtoon's US-listed parent company, reported operating losses of $125 million last year. Its stock was trading at $9.34 as of Tuesday, down from a post-initial public offering high of $26 following its June 2024 debut.>Major players have retreated from international markets, with NHN shuttering services in the United States, Britain and France, while Kakao pulled out of Europe, Indonesia, Taiwan and China.>Meanwhile, data shows readers continue to spend less time on webtoon apps. Naver Webtoon users logged an average of 426 minutes in June, down from 481 minutes in June 2024, according to local analytics firm MobileIndex. Kakao Webtoon fell from 153 to 129 minutes in the same period.>"It's fair to say that YouTube Shorts, TikTok and Instagram Reels are webtoons' biggest competitors," said a Korea Creative Content Agency official who requested anonymity. "They share similar service styles and reader approaches. As webtoon subscribers migrate to short-form, it's become a threat to industry growth."
>>288032624Good riddance
>>288054741>"It's fair to say that YouTube Shorts, TikTok and Instagram Reels are webtoons' biggest competitors>YouTube Shorts, TikTok and Instagram ReelsGooks...
>>288054903>>288054741>>288054668This is what happens when your primary audience is>Women>Poorfags from the third world>TeenagersAll of these people are more than well served by free ragebait and AIslop on social media. These are the people who put a show on on Netflix and just have it playing in the background while they browse TikTok and instagram, no shit they're not going to care enough to read your comic when they could just be scrolling social media for free.
>>288054545If he finds a girlfriend that sounds very much like a power fantasy.
>>288032624okay so i did think that was solo levelling guy when i saw the thumbail in the catalog
>>288038172To think Derek could have won easily if he wasn't an absolute retard tsundere, kek.
>>288055146just read it. I promise you he doesn't turn into a Chad with a harem in the span of 5 chapters. it's a slow-burn
>>288053656false equivalence
>>288055666How?In both cases, people end up censoring themselves out of fear.
>>288047919the 4B "movement" is just a handful of irrelevant spinsters that the media just compulsively obsess over and write articles on, but which don't have a shred of an impact on wider society, a mirror image of incels desu
>>288049169>To be fair KDH was made by Westernersthe director and writer is a gook chick
>>288037438>You can literally read them for free on official siteWebtoons are free?That's some massive case of failure to advertise then. I had no idea they were free. Not that I'm interested in reading them anyway.
What do (you) gain from shitting on Korea as a non-Japanese person and doing it for free?
>>288032624They are more or less the same.>Penis hair cut main character mangled to look like sharp jawed gigachad.>Family plot.>Propping up idiot friend.>South Korea corporate culture issues.>Jap slapping (nip snipping if youre politically correct)>Foreign devils plot.There was one really unique case where the main character was a skeleton and STAYED a skeleton for years.
>>288056051don't try to find logic, it doesn't matter that the end result is the same, mutts are controlled through a very simple but effective spell:"it's not the government, it's a private company and they can chose to do business with whoever they want"
I remember this one that I really enjoyed that was one of the few isekai that had 0 videogame mechanics but it got axed with a cliffhanger ending
For years weebs have tried to only highlight the best examples of anime and manga to appear more serious and be taken seriously which excludes the vast majority of shonen and shojo slop that manga magazines shit out every week. If some normalfaggot did come across the more depraved side of nip "entertainment" like amputee rape hentai they pretended it was actually sophisticated and normalfaggots are too stupid to understand the art in it. Now the gooks are becoming popular and that is a threat to the weeb's sense of identity.
>>288032624>I thought they're going to overtake mangaThat was never going go happen because manhwa have a fundamentally flawed creative process. Shit's as corporate as kpop. The actually kino stories that make it though the naver/kakao steamroller intact are very few and far between.
>>288056703>Now the gooks are becoming popular>Major players have retreated from international markets, with NHN shuttering services in the United States, Britain and France, while Kakao pulled out of Europe, Indonesia, Taiwan and China.>Kakao Entertainment’s webtoon platform Podo Comics, operated in China in collaboration with Tencent, will terminate its service on July 1. The company entered the Chinese market, the world’s second-largest content market, in 2021. It is ending its operations after four years due to problems such as illegal webtoon distribution. Kakao Entertainment also ceased its webtoon services in Indonesia and Taiwan last year. Another Kakao Group company, Kakao Piccoma, liquidated its European subsidiary last year.>NHN has also decided to terminate its webtoon service Pocket Comics in English-speaking countries and France in October this year. Riding on the global growth of the webtoon market, NHN had expanded its services to Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam, and Germany, but has wrapped up all these operations since last year. NHN plans to operate its Korean webtoon platform Comico only until October this year and focus on its business in Japan, the largest comic market.
>>288056749Only an absolutely terminal autist would think this reply is some sort of gotcha
>>288032624They're worse slop than the average isekai, mangas are getting more translations, webtoons are a struggle to produce due to being in color, they're harder to make print editions of, the scrolling format is genuinely horrible
>>288056827And what are you trying to prove here? Your webtoon is gonna bankrupt just like your manhwa industry lol
>>288054691>At the same time, in markets such as Europe, where print culture still dominates, Korean webtoon companies are struggling to gain traction./a/ BTFO
>>288056233>but which don't have a shred of an impact on wider societyWasn't a previous Korean president literally involved with some kind of batshit crazy feminist cult?
>>288056861Your identity as a weeb is hurt and now you are lashing out like a rabid foid during shark week
>>288056703>which excludes the vast majority of shonen and shojo slop that manga magazines shit out every week.Shojo is fairly niche. Seinen is by far the biggest demographic and josei may be ahead of shonen depending on your metric.There's only ten weekly magazines in total (4 shonen and 6 seinen), monthly is the standard frequency.
>>288056918And what are you gonna do about it? This is /a/ manga & anime, not 4gook and whatever gookshit. Go seething about japan elsewhere, zipper head
>charge one (1) dollar per chapter>people refuse to pay>"wtf why aren't our webtoons selling?"
>>288056918>2chan copycat image board made by a weeb>the owner is a jap>weeb weeb weeb u madOk, weeb
>>288056289They follow the same model as everyone else:First chapters are free and then the newest chapter is only free for a few weeks and then you have to pay.
>>288056997>charge one (1) dollar per chapterNo one to pay 1 dollar for 5 pages of chick scratch bootleg manga
>>288057023*No one want to pay
>>288056929And like with everything else, the absolute majority is slop and substandard garbage. Things for kids are usually allowed to be worse quality, it's why you regularly get elsagate tier shit in shonen. You're also taking it too literal, all the monthly magazines have different release schedules so you still get new slop released every week.
>>288056955>>288057003You are only making it worse, you know that?
>>288032624Good, fuck gook. This webtoon thing look disgusting
>>288057094You can't even speak English.
>>288056703>If some normalfaggot did come across the more depraved side of nip "entertainment" like amputee rape hentai they pretended it was actually sophisticated and normalfaggots are too stupid to understand the art in it.But it's true, for the same reason the Marquis De Sade is considered fine literature today.How many korean amputee rape hentai ever got a live action adaptation?Japan has at least one.
>>288057084And what are you gonna do to help your gook overlord surpass manga?
>>288057112Do i need to speak gooklish?
>>288057112
>>288057048Nta, but korea is much more predisposed to making slop because everything is vertically integrated by two companies. If Japan's quality to slop ratio is 1/100, Korea's is 1/10000.
>>288057112Not like there are any English people left
>>288057112And you can't even speak korean. Why do you get upset when people shit on webtoon?
From a lot of the korean comics I've read, they always seem to fall into a kind of a grind, like a free-to-play game where it starts out interesting and then it just keeps on going forever.Meanwhile manga feel more like books that are trying to tell a very specific story. It's never a grind. Even with battle shounen like dragonball, sure the pacing might be bad (you can watch Buu saga at 1.4x speed and it feels like normal speed) but it always feels like it's actually going somewhere.
>>288057161You couldn't stop yourself from adding two zeroes. Even if you aren't wrong that Korean corporate culture and Korean culture in general is probably the most collectivistic developed country on earth, it explains none of the hate western, non-japanese weebs have for korea. What does any poster in here actually gain from being part of the anti-gook brigade? It is easy to look at all the sameface garbage the nips pump out and say otaku culture needs to die. This is what europe thought when japan started exporting their garbage there and now look at them.
>>288057259>it explains none of the hate western, non-japanese weebs have for korea. What does any poster in here actually gain from being part of the anti-gook brigade? Why do you care?
>>288057124>>288057143>>288057160>>288057206SEA hands that will never be japanese and get their visa revoked
>>288057299>ME HATE SEAMONKEY>NOOOO YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO HATE KOREAGeez double standard much?
>>288057287Why do you have a hate boner for korea? Because it threatens your identity as a weeb and because you believe in nihonjinron ideas. Do you think some nip oji-san is going to come and congratulate you for shitting on the ethnicity they are descended from?
>>288057346>Because it threatens your identity as a weeb and because you believe in nihonjinron ideasI have no idea what are you talking about? I just hate gook and webtoon, and kpoop, that's all. Don't think too much about it
>>288057346Why can’t I hate korean?
>>288052784Anon, there were 6 million unique Chinese IPs accessing the original nyaa repo before it got shut down. Where do you think they've heard of nyaa?
>>288057346I don't even know what the hell is nihonjinron ideas lolAre you a gook?
>>288057372>>288057422So you aren't even an educated weeb if you don't know what nihonjinron is. What a shame, maybe if your country had four seasons and your race evolved from a separate hominid you could understand just how worthless you are compared to the Japanese.
>>288057048>all the monthly magazines have different release schedules so you still get new slop released every week.No. There's a pronounced gap in the release dates. You clearly don't actually read manga.
>>288057456Ok, but i don't want to be japanese thoughAnd i hate gook
>>288054668I think I can explain this. They got popular for being new, and many people came in being curious. But after a while you realize that all this shit is the same. They have less variation then the 100s of Isekai manga do. Which is bad. At least the isekai try to add some sort of dumb spin, like a smart phone, or a world reset plot, or something. The webtoons are literally all the same, in a genre. They all have the dark haired OP protagonist, who has a family that sucks, and a sister that loves him, and he's the strongest, handsomest, coolest on the planet. You could mix pages from different webtoons and not realize they're from different series.
>>288057456>dudes why are you hate korean stop hating korea waaaaaaaaaaaaah>YOU A JEET SEENIGGER NIGGER I HATE NIGGER WAAAAAAAAAAAAHGeez double standard much?
>>288057456This gook is sperging at others for shitting on his piece of shit micro penis country LMAOGrown up, faggot
>You dislike Korean mean you're a weeb, wapanese and nihonjiro ideas whateverThis shit is wack!
>>288057259>You couldn't stop yourself from adding two zeroesAm I wrong? I enjoyed stuff like Pigpen, Eternally Regressing Knight and Bad Born Blood, but they're squarely in the minority. You can argue the newness of the medium plays a part, but creativity always gets stifled when your concept has to clear three boardrooms and two focus groups before getting published.
>>288054577>Just trudge through putrid shit to fine something that may or may not existHey man you should go to the boonies and go through septic tanks. People lose diamond rings all the time and guess where they get stuck!
>>288032624>I thought they're going to overtake mangahave you visited any manga piracy website recently? they pretty much have
>>288057887See >>288054668
>>288032624>Noblessed gonna kill manga and anime>no one care>Gook of high school gonna kill manga and anime>no one care>Tower of gook gonna kill manga and anime>no one care>solo shitting gonna kill manga and anime>only niggers care, even chinks and seaniggers are making fun of it, went like a fart
>>288057346>Why do you have a hate boner for koreaBecause the endless shilling and inorganic discussion around every single Korean piece of media. Hell your doing it right now. The only way gooks can complete is going "nuh uh your just mad Korea numba wan weeb slop sucks"Get your own fucking board you worked cretin
>>288057422It's just Japanese nationalism. No white country uses it since it's a retarded term
>>288056896>Wasn't a previous Korean president literally involved with some kind of batshit crazy feminist cult?Yeah something like that, she was indoctrinated into a shamanic pseudo-christian/buddhist cult and manipulated by a cabal of 8 women. It's something like Korean scientology.
>>288058028That's a good analogy. Imagine if Tom Cruise became president and THEN everyone figured out he was a high level super scientologist
>>288057415Those were japanese actually.
>>288057788I literally addressed your point right below >>288054652
>>288058588It's also just plain wrong. It's an order of magintute more shit than even Western comics well honestly no but it's close I shant be wasting my time with gook slop anymore because. The closest thing to an actual good studio that came out of worst Korea (project moon) literally speed ran enshittening going all in on gacha shit
>>288032624Not surprising. Webtoons just look like shit compared to traditional comic/manga panels. And phone screens suck to read things on.
>>288052170>comments on her pink pussy>we can't see itt-thanks
>>288057887In volume? Cause in quality, it's worse then isekai no.32657
>>288059358>And phone screens suck to read things onsadly i think most children prefer to read manga on their phones there is a reason the likes of mangaplus default to vertical reading
>>288059674Have you seen how much manga is out there?
>>288059903Of course I know. And LNs. But there is FAR more good shit in manga and LN than there is in webtoons. Which are almost always trash.
>>288032624Maybe people would read them if 90% of them weren't literally the same shit
>>288060295but people do read them, they just dont want to pay for them
for me it's >Solo Farming in the Towerbecause it's just a guy farming and befriending farm animals, cute and comfy and the tower/system elements are very much a backdrop>Eternally Regressing Knightre;zero but with fightsexual bros who banter with the MC instead of bitches >The Novel's Extra because the mc gets a tomboy to go from ultra tsuntsun for him to ultra deredere and then he secretly kills her brother that she looks up to for PLOT reasons but she doesn't know it was him and why yet, and the whole tension around that has been great>villainess genre as a wholein general I think Korea might do the whole villainess/shoujo-ish genre better than Japan. and on either note China has been pumping out pretty good Yuri content as well
>>288032624Have they finally been forced to stop botting their viewcounts?
the stories are shit man
>>288061079Nobody gonna force them in gookland.Also>Gooks>AccountabilityThese 2 don't match lmao.
>>288057346Let's see>Ruin their music industry and infected K-Poop to the world>Turned Manhwa into Webtoons>Reboot Shin Angyo Onshi into a Webtoon that change the story and even fucked up the ending and making it the de facto canon version, ensuring that we will never see the original version animated>Ruined Project Moon after only 4 years of good run and now we have to endure 10 years of limbus>Being far more insufferable than their neighbors on the internet>K-Drama is getting shittier each days with the involvement of Netflix>Killed Comick and Tachiyomi People in this board shit on Japan all the fucking time, why do you think your precious Koreans are immune to hate after all the stunts and fuckery that they did?
>>288062639>Reboot Shin Angyo Onshi into a Webtoon that change the story and even fucked up the ending and making it the de facto canon version, ensuring that we will never see the original version animatedIm going to sleep but what the fuck?
>>288063234Instead of just Munsu's corpse scaring off Aji Tae and Sando beheaded him. Aji Tae turned into some kind of monster version and then Sando and Marlene (That one Munsu's apprentice) killed him offscreen (They don't even show the figjht. He transformed in the second to last chapter after Sando beheaded him and then the final chapter just show the aftermath of the fight with his monstrous corpse laying around)
>>288063234Also, the Shin Angyo Onshi reboot is a part of Youbg In Wan cinematic universe shit (Superstring) but then again that thing is also basically dead now
>>288057346>Made shit product nowadays>Korean people are annoying as fuck on the internet4chan shit on everything including the Japs themselves, why do you think that Korean is immune to hate with all the shit that they did?
>>288057346For me it's because they have zero originality and all of their shit is either gatcha slop or looks like it and is even more formulaic than some of the most formulaic nip stuff.If they actually made their own stuff that wasn't Jap shit but worse I would like them more, but they are culturally vapid and even more consumerist than Japs which is saying something.
>read manhwa>chapter 1: MC is kind but weak and suffers more than anyone on the Earth>chapter 2: MC gains superpowers and is now too cool to be kind to anyoneStop this.
>>288057346I only ever said the product isn't good. I don't fucking care the country itself. You're the one taking it that way from projection as a coping mechanism when people call it slop. The zeroes someone else added are justified. I'm sure it appeases redditors like yourself to dumb things down call everything "equally slop" but if you make inferior products it deserves to be said.
>>288063535try this one on for size. the MC is still a four-eyed dork and only gradually gets stronger.be warned though. the FL he's into calls him a loser all the time and is extremely tsun, to the point of annoyance. I like bitchy women but even she's too much for me, lol
ignore the retard above me and read ares or yongbi instead
>>288048782REAL KOREA, REAL THOUGHTShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeN1o-bk5xA
gooktoons are shit, but let's not pretend modern manga is much better
>>288065408>Hehe, don't you see that manga like Naruto isn't much good? You don't like Boruto, do you? So please, buy Cape Comics™ and Webtoons™! It's all the same as manga!shut up shill
They pay solo levelling to win over frieren but frieren will still be remembered but sl will be forgotten in next 5 years is never not funny.
Solo Leveling ended. The sequel is pretty good but is now on haiatus. Lookism already completed it's main arc and is now just on life support to continue a pointless story no one cares about all so they can keep pumping out random characters for their gacha game. The Breaker also proved that everyone is just chasing a fad and will inevitably fail.
>>288032624you can only write a dark revenge fantasy set in the real world but the mc gains gamelike lvl up abilities so many ways
>>288065408at least I get the leisure of reading a page for at least three seconds instead of scrolling scrolling scrolling, more fucking scrolling. If some gookshit is actually decent, I rather just read the fan wiki and piece shit together myself
>>288038889chinese media is either copaganda or cultivation they will be mogged by japan if they dont change>>288038886
>>288056703greek mythology is also depraved but remains interesting
>>288032624It's only like 2-3 good ones, the rest is absolute garbage. Sword King, surviving as a barbarian, the rest will lower your IQ by double digits, especially Chinese shit (Kakao).
>>288057346I made fun of Japan multiple times and I used to buy Physical Manhwa which means that I have more contribution to your Industry than most of your bootlickers. I earned it
>>288065408For a country who hate the Japs a lot, you people sure hide behind Japan whenever someone doesn't buy your bullshit
>>288065408On the contrary, it's thousand times better just for not being a downscroll shit.
Webtoon could never
>>288057415>>288058324GEEEEEEEGGGGGGGGGGGGG
No idea why, webtoons look pretty kino.
>>288067798>Koreans when they failed to land job in chaebol company
woww epic media you have thereI can't wait to scroll 900 pages of the same shit, after all the cover looks good amirite?
>>288058324based pantsu.this is why we must ban webtoons, commietoons and /co/ shit forever. they were never relevent. keep taiwaneses for thunderbolt fantasy.
>>288059887>default to vertical readingi read vertically on my PC monitor, which is 16:10 aspect ratio. always have been unless the mango sight don't allow it.or somehow it can't load all images in 1 chapter. same with reading documents and LN PDF files on my SumatraPDF reader. i don't try to turn my PC monitor into some kinda fake ebook-reader where i "flip" pages from right to left. it's just not quite as practical.
>>288060993>in general I think Korea might do the whole villainess/shoujo-ish genre better than Japan.>and on either note China has been pumping out pretty good Yuri content as wellthen go back to readdit and never cum back to this anime board. you already have your own shit spaces. stay in them.
>>288067905Manga is made so that you see two pages at once. You are seriously doing it wrong and miss out.>same with reading documents and LN PDF files on my SumatraPDF reader.Are you reading Japanese vertical text that way?
>>288059887>there is a reason the likes of mangaplus default to vertical readingIsn't Mangaplus the only site that does that? The standard Japanese design is that spread view is used whenever enough horizontal resolution is available.
>>288032624Well you can't go from "everything free to read for anyone in english, korean, chinese, japanese" to "you can read the first 10 chapters and if you want to read more subscribe to our premium accounts" which is retarded planning once constructed (like what crunchyroll did a forum and upload site by fans for fansubs upload your raws and translations but they changed to paid accounts to watch what fans uploaded or translated for free).
