Why do so many Westerners ignore this guy's manga? He writes genuinely well and so many of his stories have been adapted into anime (and to a lesser extent dramas): Nine (picrel), Miyuki, Touch, Hiatari Ryoukou, Nozomi Witches, H2, Cross Game and Mix to name a few. Despite this his name almost never comes up.
>>288047760baseball anime/manga aren't popular outside of japan. strip that away and his brand of wacky misunderstanding-based melodrama romcom is done better and more famously by rumiko takahashi or kimagure orange road, which was very popular in early western anime fandom and has maintained a steady hold on the retro-romcom genre since.
>>288047916I always found it weird how baseball anime did not catch on, in early American anime circles, at the very least. Central Anime did both Touch and H2, once upon a time, but I cannot find any other references apart from their website.
>>288047760I tried reading Touch a long time ago and I really just couldn't get into it. Maybe I'll give it another try someday
>>288048488Anime circles usually consisted of computer dorks that didn't care about sports. The entire jock vs nerd culture was very big back then.
>>288047760>westernersOnce again you conflate "the west" with the US. In Italy Mitsuru Adachi has been popular since forever and the anime of Touch was on TV in the 90s. Everywhere you go you expose your disgusting provincialism with claims like these. Just because you caught up with the existence of anime for the first time in the late 90s it doesn't mean that the rest of the "west" didn't know anything about them - Dragon Ball and One piece being the two main examples of this. By filtering stuff through the lenses of american culture you have created a fake westaboo anime taste where stuff like Trigun (shit), Cowboy Bebop (good) and Gundam Wing (one of the worst Gundams) are considered classics, and where edgyness, forced seriousness, and influences from the "west" (=american cinema) are considered typical features of the media when they are not.Then you come here and make threads where you lament the absence of classics in the "west" without realizing that the intrinsic provincialism of your own cultural discourse kept this stuff away because you have been unable and unwilling to deal with cultures that aren't your own. Every time you open a thread like this, for everyone who's not from the US it's like hearing an retarded person entering room and begin to monologue about the stupidest shit with the loudest voice imaginable.Please train yourself to be silent and read for two years. Books would be the best cure to being american, but you can also start from the wikipedia pages of things you like.
>>288049368A bit overkill but based
>>288049368this should be default response to toonamifags.
Read one read them all.
>>288047916>kimagure orange roadThis is such a bullshit show that purposefully never delivers what it teases to blueball you as hard as possible. It is basically masochistic torture with 80s vibes.
>>288047916>and his brand of wacky misunderstanding-based melodrama romcom is done better and more famously by rumiko takahashilmaoRumikofags are so delusional
>>288051170It's actually a very high quality post
>>288047760I have been meaning to get around to his stuff. >>288053329I mean, I am one of those but I wouldn't claim something like that. Especially given that I haven't read this work. But honestly, they respect and love each others work, I don't think it is worth fighting over.
>>288047760We are always getting translations for his series, so I really don't care about their popularity in western circles.
>>288053329You are retarded if you think Adachi's 8 clones of the same story are more popular, creative and funny than Rumiko's works.
>>288054706>You are retarded if you think Adachi's 8 clones of the same story are more popular, creative and funny than Rumiko's works.Dude both are legendary mangakas, both still sell really well. This is a pointless competition
>>288049368Not that it matters, but my IQ is 78 (yes, you are talking to a genuine midwit). I read (even volunteered at a library for almost 10 years), I just don't understand what I am reading half of the time. Also, even when I lived abroad (UK) I never heard anyone talk about his stuff and some of my anime pen pals (Holland, Argentina, Albania and Bulgaria) never have heard anyone talking about his work either.Where is his stuff popular? I know Hiatari Ryoukou got a dub in France, but that is about it.
>>288047760Most old stuff that isn't hyper-marketable is ignored. Usually needs remakes, ongoing franchises, very famous staff in the credits or fanbase, or a viral character.>>288049368Also true for the most part.
>>288049368Bodied that freak.
>>288049368We got a hardcore slopper here
>>288049257This. Now its much different, but for basically all of the 20th century in America, "sports nerd" was an oxymoron. They existed, but it was incredibly niche. Most consumers of baseball were jocks/normies. American nerds were much more into fiction/D&D/larping/fantasy/sci-fi. Now its more varied and nuanced since the 21st century person grew up with phones, tech, vidya, and slop. So even the most normal person has a "traditionally nerdy" hobby or 2.
>>288049368>Touch was on TV in the 90s>>288049368>Touch was on TV in the 90sMore like late 80s, if memory serve? And don't forget Miyuki and Hiatari Ryoko.
>>288047760Baseball sucks and so does his style
>>288052468this nigga never seen the KOR movie lmaoooo
>>288049368Basato
>>288047916But now people have soured on such stuff precisely because of how "in your face" and unfair the cliches tended to play out on those, it got infuriating at times.
>>288058275wasn't cliche at the time
>>288047760There's a lot of American manga readers who only read officially translated stuff and the only manga of his that's ever been officially translated is Cross Game.
>>288048488A lot of Americans have the mindset of "Why would I watch an anime/read a manga about [sport] when I can just play [sport]?" because a lot of them view anime and manga as a substitute for superheroes since American cape comics haven't been as easily available since the crash 30 years ago and American action cartoons aren't as flashy as anime.The entire appeal spokon is the growth both in ability and internally for the characters and how their participation in the sport forms and affects bonds but most people don't think of it that way besides, I guess, fujos. Which is why the only spokon that gets translated is fujobait.Shame my favorite spokon is never getting licensed and the TL for it has died twice.
>>288048488baseball-based fiction didn't catch on in the USA in general for whatever reason, at least as much as I can remember as a kid. nothing matched the mainstream pop culture penetrating power of something like basketball and even that hardly yielded any purely sports-centric comics and cartoons
>>288049368I imagine this anon looked like this while posting that.
>>288053329Rumiko and Kimagure got big with ancientfags because they liked the cute girls. Adachi draws cute girls but there's usually only one or maybe two in any given series so there's nobody for the nerds to wack off to so they overlooked his series. Much of even modern /a/ fandom is influeced by what ancientfags in the '80s liked.
>>288049368Nobody cares abou Europe. Like with video games and other shit, the European marke at its strongest is a fraction of the US market. Things like Ghost in the Shell are big globally because of their popularity in America, not because spaghetts and baguettes in 1987 liked it.
>>288060411Huh? No, baseball movies have always been a thing and there are a lot that are held up as classics: Bull Durham, Bad News Bears, Field of Dreams, The Natural, Moneyball, The Sandlot and Major League off the top of my head. I can't think of near as many for basketball or even football.
>>288047760I'm not watching 50-episodes telenovela
>>288047760I assume it’s due to the fact that for the most part they follow a similar structure. I do think some of them stand out more than others like Katsu!, Cross Game, & Rough.
