Silencehttps://mangaplus.shueisha.co.jp/viewer/1029082
>all women talk>proceeds to throw them to be raped by men if they dont become your slaveclassic
Sorry if I'm slow, I'm just shocked.
>>288054763Fair enough lisa really is the worst
Holy shit everything escalated so quickly, it’s the literal apocalypse.
>>288054775I hope Lisacunt gets the absolute worst punishment in the end.
>alright let's see how they are going to handle the fake outwhat the fuck
This is all imuri fault btw
>>288054777>God is shockedFuck you motherfucker, isn't this part of your grand plan?
>>288054805he isn't shocked he is just affirming it through numbers
>>288054710>devil-worshipper committing abortion on the first pageWew
F-fakeout-bros, our status?
Isn't Mammon already tired of winning all the time?
>>288054841Stronger than ever
>>288054845>MAGABravo Arima
>>288054836She only wants to have kids with Mammon
>>288054799This one is entirely on satan, who is conspicuously absent from the world rn
>>288054845Author got tired of any possible subtleties
I've heard pretty much only good things about this manga, but still don't have a desire to pick it up for some reason.
>trannies are still reading this cucksloplol
Kaboom!
>>288054899funny considering mammon is one the least harmful considering the other demon lords lol
>>288054763>the conspiracy is realDouble wew>>288054845Triple WEW>>288054901>>288054928I am running out of WEWs to give, holy fuck.
>>288054908ok>>288054845>>288054792I still don't know what she sees in him.
>>288054920>cuck is still reading this and seethingLOL
>>288054845Character assassination. Her sex was never important neither to Mammoth nor herself. Tachibana would never have such an infantile view of her position.
>>288054899>"I know writers who use subtext, and they're all cowards"
Joshua is going to return as jesus christ
>>288054845>trump is a literal demon lordauthor should really cool it with the antisemitism
>>288054928Mamombros...Not again...
>>288054901Which was the third devil Baba Yaga was contracted with again? It wasn't Mammon, was it? Normally human weapons are his domain.
>Woman moment causes the apocalypseAs expected
Leahbros...is she ok?
>>288054908It has attempted rape in the first chapter, greed is entertaining and gluttony is kino. That should be enough reasons.
>>288054901>>288054928>>288055024You know, at this point i actually kinda feel bad for this poor bastard, He literally can't get one single win>all of this shit only on day oneOh lord......
>>288055049>octopusbro voices reason>>288055076>women proceeds to ignore reason
>>288054710Nothing left to do now but to call the Doom Slayer now, Jesus Christ.
>>288054999Holy kek, every page of this chapter, man.>>288055024TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOOOOWN
The Flood Arrives.
>>288055067He's too pure for this world.
>>288055067mammon just wanted to be greed and have a fair fight against full power priest
>>288055099Priest needs to spank her dumb ass.
>>288055076Did we deserve it? >>288055099I warned you about global warming bro!
A nonstop feast...
>>288055129funny enough her reason have nothing to do with global warming
>>288055134Belphegor spotted, now WHERE IS SATAN he actually made a pact with lisa
Okay, so obviously Josh is making a comeback and stop Lisa (dunno what he can do for the Earth at this point since it's being raped harder than Kevin Nash) But what about Imuri, I have full faith in Josh's second wind but I feel like Imuri needs to seriously do something to atone/prove herself to Josh because honestly, all she's really done so far is take the bullet for Josh once and give him lovey-dovey sex for continuous days.
>Causing the literal apocalypse because your lesbian lover dated a dude (her other excuses are all cope)Is this the ultimate woman moment?
A disgusting orgy.
>>288055042She is going to save Josh from that bitch Imuri
>>288055083I'm starting to think this manga is against women. The majority of problems have been caused by women.
>>288055017
>>288055163>Causing the literal apocalypse because your whore best friend finally found "true love" with a man (you were just a quick fuck to her)FTFY
They really need to fuck up the witches
>>288055083Thats actually a squid
>>288054845Well shit.>>288054901Just magicing nukes to fall. Simple, but clever.>>288055099So Satan's plan was to get Baba Yaga to force everyone to start throwing hands and summon every deadly sin in the process? And to ensure it worked all he had to do was get Mr. Priest to fall in love so that he wouldn't be as selfless and powerful?>>288055170>>288055207guess I'm right
>>288055207>Want to help women>Get them raped insteadTypical feminist
>>288054845>MAGA + I'm not like the other girlskek>>288054899picrel>>288054976>Her sex was never importantit was. Mammon's entire character is being the avatar of "toxic masculinity". except when it comes to his hapa-sexcretary, she is one of the "good ones"
>>288055207>Cuts to France>Immediately shows rapeCurious.
>>288054901>>288054928Is every scrub witch out there REALLY just conceptually immune to bombs, bullets, and nuclear radiation? What about needing to eat?
>>288055237best girl
>>288055225many such cases
Our Savior?Chapter End.
>>288055170>orgy of blood>>288055237>orgy of bodies.....and yeah, probably some blood too
>>288055243the land of the cultured
>>288055134>Bel so lazy he does nothing
>>288055076>>288055112>>288055237>All the demons are winning>>288054901>Except MammonMy boy just can't catch a break.
Satan won so hard. Imuri caused the end of the world because Josh is a retard.
>>288055259>Belphegor with the last minute saveNever doubted you my manThanks for the dump OP
>>288055207>>288055225>>288055237>she didn't take the deal
>>288055259This is what feminists actually want
>>288054710sorry, i dont read mana with NTR
This is all yuritards' fault
>>288054845yay 'murrica
>>288055291Yeah what would you, you live as the cuck?
>>288055259>None of this would've happened if Shimuri hadn't depowered JoshThis is what happens when you love evil women, hope you've all learned your lesson
>>288055259So did Imuri ditch him?
So Belphegor is gonna put Josh's body back together but what exactly can he do for his mind? Who exactly is gonna give Josh the pep talk to get back in the game and even then, you still have the question of what Josh can actually do, Satan still seems nervous around Josh so he probably still has some power.
>>288055259This sad little cuckboy is going to get his powers back isn’t he?
sowhat’s God doing? Is he just sitting on a cloud?>huh, things seem pretty rough down there>guess I should’ve sent more than a physically/mentally abused little boy to save everyone>ah well
>>288055259>They just left him there>>288055323>Who exactly is gonna give Josh the pep talk to get back in the gameWho else but the big JC?
>>288055350Everything's going just as planned.
>>288055323it will be revealed that actually we're still in the middle of the Belphegor fight and Bel showed him a dream of what would happen if he got together with Imuri. Priest will proceed to kill Imuri on the spot and go fight Satan with Bel
>>288055320>So did Imuri ditch him?Lisa kissed her and knocked her unconscious. >>288055336Yea he will, I think Satan is still worried about him consider he actually got nervous when Josh confronted him recently.
>>288055370That's just Tzeentch
>>288055371>Priest will proceed to kill Imuri on the spot and go fight Satan with BelI would kneel so fucking hard if that was the case but sadly, I think Imuri is actually going to get her happy ending.
>>288054710Based female on the first page immediately refusing, seeing the seething loser that is Baba yaga for what it is. I guess this world not bad after all
Waiting for the chapter where leviathan vomit 1/3 of dead people out
>>288055259im still blaming imuri
>>288055259I wonder if he's gonna come back to life with his own powers (with Bel pushing him)? Satan was terrified of him, but the story still didn't show Josh at full power
Single dad Bel is going to save him
>>288055350After this chapter, it's very likely this is the End Times. If the manga actually goes full Revelation I would kneel so fucking hard
4 Horsemen when?
>>288055372>I think Satan is still worried about him consider he actually got nervous when Josh confronted him recently.Yep, Satan didn't go taunt his past victims, he clearly wanted to kick Josh in the theet more for double tapping
So uh, what is Lucifer doing during all this?
>>288055280Those retards really doomed humanity. Should have gone with my man Lucifer's plan. Nobody wins against the power of friendship.
>>288055487chilling in his trad slow life world
>>288055170>a rape fest >on manga plus of all places>it's okay because the mangaka is female>>288055323>but what exactly can he do for his mind?he will blackpill him. total foid death!
>>288055099>nicest demon lord
>>288055434>>288055458We probably passed the horseman and is going to the trumpet soon, considering this chapter title is likely referencing the seventh seal.>And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.>And I saw the seven angels which stood before God; and to them were given seven trumpets.
>>288054901I don't care about MAGA stuff one way or another but nuking America is based as fuckIf only lesbians were this coold irl
>>288055099>You naughty childrenNO MOMMY NO, I WAS A GOOD BOY, I TAKE CARE OF THE OCEAN!
>>288055390Why did you post best girl ICHICUTE though?
>>288055410That's fair, it is her fault (and Satan's)
>>288055237This should beA disgusting orgy.My bad.
>>288055259Best boy belphegor’s gonna come back to the manga, yayyyyyyyyy!
>>288055517>Implying there are nice demons
>>288055320You see her lying in the background in >>288054873So she probably just got knocked out and kidnapped
>>288055503somewhere in his hell layer>That time i was reincarnated into demon lucifer hell ~Living a slow life while earth meets the apocalypse~
Okay, let's say the end goal will still have Josh and Imuri remaining as a couple, how is Imuri going to redeem herself or do something to prove she's devoted to Josh? Will she be the one to kill Lisa? Will she tie Lisa up after she loses her baba yaga powers and make her wash as an angry Josh fucks her?
>>288055560Because Ichicute will never accept such a loser offer like that.
>>288055646save for Beelzebub, they are still way nicer than our current overlords
>>288055259>Belph needs 5 days to do somethinglol
Taken completely straight, this arc reads as>if you give women power, the world will be destroyed
>>288055350he gave them power to deal with it and humans screwed it up none of his bussines
>>288055646Mama probably would get separated from other demon lords>And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.>And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
>>288055207>>288055237This gives me such a raging hard on yet breaks my heart at the same time.
>>288055683Mammon is literally our current overlords
>>288055521How exactly do the End Times go again? I think I need a refresher.
>>288055735The carnal temptation...
All planned from the beginning.
>>288055323and can he do anything about possible radiation poisoning? Maybe just slow it down.
What i want to know is if some of the Church characters managed to survived this bullshitDid they pull out an modern Ark or something? That would be cool
>>288055776
How would you die in this apocalypse bros
>>288055758shit, I would have to go rewatch the American Dad christmas special about it to remember since it's surprisingly accurate. But I don't think anyone has been "raptured" unless a nuclear holocaust counts
>>288055808I live near the coast, so almost certainly Leviathan's dinner.
>>288055807
>>288055410Imuri deserves neither love nor salvation. And Lisa deserves to experience all the rape and murder she caused after which she's allowed to disappear from the world (might take a few hundred or thousand years).
The author clearly hated the generic status quo stuff that happens in most stories, and use Joshua who had all the powers but no drive or thoughts on what to do with them other than kick demon lord asses as an example.
>>288055886
>>288055816Isn't the Rapture just the idea that Christians will be able to skip out of the tribulations the rest of the Earth will face? I think that's just an American idea that isn't necessarily part of the biblical canon.
>>288054845Actual slop
>>288055919Only the ones that deserve and most don't even if they are devotees since most are just on it for the perks
>>288055808Most likely Beelzebub's meal.
Pride was right.
I don't care what happens to Imuri at this stage (somehow she'll probably find her way back to Josh) I just want Lisa to get the biggest fuck you possible.
>>288055758>Jesus undone six seals>Insert visions of angels marking the Christians here>The seventh seal got undone and there's silence, after that seven trumpets are sound The four horsemen are the first four seals, note that there's theory of the "seal" being the preview instead of happening chronologically >Angels sound six trumpets>Insert visions of giant angel talking to John, and the two disciple on Earth After the seventh trumpet is where the vision of dragon, beast, the whore start>After everything there is also seven vials
>>288055049>Um, it's the Baba Yaga who did all this mom>>288055076>Fuck human men!
desu i wouldn't be surprised if the mangaka is a feminist despite making a manga like this its irony itself
>>288056157This mangaka is 100% a feminist
>>288055912Based Arima making people see the future.
>>288055237>no men rapedCoward mangaka
>>288055776>>288055807>>288055886>>288055912Dare I say kino?
It's time for son god, jesus, to return.
>>288055239He feed on all bigotry regardless of the source
>>288056202Jog my memory, has Jesus appeared at all in this?
>>288056214Never
>>288056205is baba yaga one of his biggest soruce of power?
>Get your lesbian lover "stolen">Get raped>Cause the apocalypse
>>288054845>>288054928so like did Mammon just get cucked AGAIN?also is his waifu dead?
>>288056340>Lesbian loverPlease explain how Imuri is a lesbian?
>>288054710Why is it that almost every official translation is made by a bunch of cunts, but back in the scanlation days, literally everything was done by guys. What kind of absurd privilege do these cunts have, given that they're not even good at it, and add awful localization to everything as well?
>>288055776This manga has been one of the most meticulously planned ones I've ever read. There are callbacks throughout the entire run that you can find everywhere for each chapter if you look for it. One of the reasons why I stuck with it because they have a clear vision from start to finish.
>>288056486Same with Choujin XBoth have the falling plane imagery ironically
>>288056426>What kind of absurd privilege do these cunts haveFree time
>>288056340>lesbian loveroh please, girl got friendzoned once and she decided to end the worldshe's a female elliot rodger that also has magical powers
>>288055237>support all women*!*only if they agree to witches pact.
>>288055259This better be some Doom 2/Punisher the End shit because I will drop this like a red hot dumbbell if this shit pulls a"Reverse time and prevent the Apocolypse" and god forbid the ending better not be Josh and Imuri are the new Adam and Eve
>>288056626>he'll drop the ending
>>288056626>Josh and Imuri are the new Adam and EveYou might have just jinxed it bro...
>>288056486Dungeon Meshi is the only other one I can think of that seemed to have that much planned.
>>288055487>Day 1: Mamon>Day 2: Mama>Day 3: Beezlebub>Day 4: Asmodeus>Day 5: BelLuce is up next after Bel does his thing to try and salvage this whole mess.
>>288056359>also is his waifu dead?For whatever reason I don't think Mammon made her one of his witches, like the guy don't believe in that crap
So uh will Satan do anything or will he just continue laughing to himself while patting himself on the back saying all of this happened thanks to him?
>>288055516>a rape fest>on manga plus of all places>it's okay because the mangaka is femaleAlso no genitals which makes it doubly okay for a shonen manga.
If there's any consolation, there's no way in hell Josh and Imuri are getting back together after this whole mess.
>>288055259>>288055690>>288056777>yfw Bel is actually stalling Josh's revival because sloth
>>288055259I supposed right after this comes the second coming of the messiah.Right?
>a demon girl is the one that betrayed you>take it out on earthYuritards. Never change
so like what the fuck would Lucifer doomsday even look like? just give everyone that he encounters fuck you powers of an angel and have them running around making their own camps?
>>288056858Mini rapture?
>>288056847Wow it's almost like the reason why wrath is a sin in the first place is because it's not righteous and is simply unjust, directionless violence.
>>288056858He tries out his evolution experiments on the world and it goes horribly, horribly wrong.
>>288056840>there's no way in hell Josh and Imuri are getting back together after this whole mess.I wouldn't be so sure.
>>288056899The entire world went to literal hell because he took her advice and chose a life with her and burying his head in the sand instead of remaining to deal with the demon lords. I don't think he'd want to get with her after that.
>>288056897>hey humans trust me we will all be angels and be free form this hell hole trust me!oh god
>>288056803He's the last to appear if this really is the apocalypse as shown by >>288056777
>>288056840Why not? I think the most that'll happen is Imuri ghosts Josh due to guilt and then Josh chases after her.
>>288056960Again, I really wouldn't be so sure.
>>288056840>>288056899>both of them are sleeping through the best partMissed mindbreak opportunity desu.
so uhh when is God going to wash all this away?
>>288057039Give him a moment, he's still chewing on his popcorn thinking Satan is getting what he wants.
The mangaka doesn’t have the balls to actually condemn Imuri
collective demon lord bitchsmack by God when?
>>288057066This, Imuri will be allowed to have her cake and eat it too in the end.
>>288054999VOLUME NINE BLACK PAGE!!!
>>288057066She might get away with a noble sacrifice end
>>288054901woah shit's going down? awesome, think I missed a week or two and fucking judgment day started evidently.
>>288055134that was also in one of the black pages!
>>288054928Americasisters...?
>REEEEEE FUCK MEN WOMEN NEED TO TAKE POWER>presides over the largest mass rape in historywoman moment.
>>288057066>ignoring the entire last chapter where fucking Lisa of all people tells Josh that Imuri is at fault for all the devastation she's caused because of her love questI don't get why you guys are such doomers about her. I understand preparing for the worst, but this is just excessive.
>>288056858Time travel, as in tradition to fullfill nippon trope.
>>288055024>Russian not mentionedBased, orcs win again.
>>288054899https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViOqUak8-bI
>>288056840Jshn gave up his powers knowing full well this would happen.
>>288057182Women are women's worst enemy.
>>288057225He was trying his damndest to prevent the Baba Yaga from starting the massacre even after he settled in with Imuri. And the thing is that his efforts worked, with the Baba Yaga being weaker than ever. He just pushed his luck too hard and ended up dying.
>>288055259So how will Pride and Wrath fuck the world more? Or will Pride transcend all the witches to godhood with his angel powers like he tried with demons to create the new world order?
>>288055243Usually it land of cuckoldry
>You will actually cause Devilman-tier apocalypse by getting laidBased author
>>288057336Pride will be the false messiah
>>288057358I expected Wrath who is still possessing Dante to take on that role and than he can fuck over all those who still were left leading them to damnation.
>>288054928>America gets nukedThis is the rumbling but good
>>288057225It’s a running fact that Joshua doesn’t really realise what’s gonna happen till it does, he thinks that he does but he doesn’t get the scope, same with seeing Irumi’s past with his own eyes.
this chapter feels like it escalated quite a bit lmfao. jumped the shark like twice at least. levi's actions make no sense>witch drops nukes and poisons the waters>fucks the humans instead of the witch herself????
>>288056369She's bi.
>>288055259This series is such unironic, unapologetic, wokeslop, garbage, I cannot even begin to fathom what possesses someone to read it. Its the whinings of a perpetually online Nippon tumblr tard who figured out the konami code to the Manga bean mouth art style.
>>288055516>>it's okay because the mangaka is femalewe actually have zero info on both writer and artist, somehow
>>288055259Lucifer was right
Imuri literally fucks anything that moves hell even it doesn't move she would probably fuck it
>>288056626>Josh and Imuri are the new Adam and EveWow the new humanity is more fucked if that happened
>>288056702Why bother if you risk getting axed after a 2 volumes? I still remember Marry Grave and it hurts.
>>288055434>Josh becomes the embodyment of Archangel Michael>BTFOs satan, all his armies and the leviathan alone>Saves the 4 decent humans left alive and nukes the planet off existance>The EndWould be kinda funny but tbdesu at this point heaven has been so useless at even just guiding people towards good that I would love if he just went full Ultrakill and wiped out both heaven and hell with bullshit "2 angry 2 die" powers.
>>288055758>First is the revealing of the 7 seals (4 horsemen, revealing of the martyrs and 144,000 hole men, then a half hour of silence in heaven)>Next is the sounding of 7 trumpets: each causes a new disaster, the final reveals the mysteries of GodThese 2 are often considered the warning of the coming end time. Some of these disasters may have been referenced this chapter: hail and fire from the sky, killing of the oceans and poisoning of the waters, mankind fleeing into caves.>The war in heaven might be here next depending on reading, but it's likely an event of the past that describes the first fall of Satan.>Satan grants his powers to the Beast with 7 heads and 10 horns from the sea (the antichrist), who is propped up by a false prophet and whose rule is enforced by the Mark (666 or 616). They are worshipped by humanity>Christ returns and together with the 144,000 holy men defeat the beast (it's literally mentioned the merchants of the world weep at this which I've always found funny). >He then punishes his followers by unleashing the 7 bowls (7 plagues) and tosses them into a lake of fire as part of the last judgement>There's 1000 years of just rule on earth under Christ and the saints until Satan himself revives>Satan gathers Gog and Magog and all the wicked people of the world to attack Christ but is defeated by God and is thrown into the lake of fire as the final part of the last judgement>Heaven and Earth unite bringing eternal salvation to all God's people>>288055919Kind of. It's a misinterpreting of biblical text and confusing the order of events. It's a pretty complicated discussion, but yeah the doctrine is basically only popular in America and had very little impact on traditional Christian beliefs until the Left Behind books.
>>288056840Sorry bros,I don't trust Joshua to make the right choice.....
>>288055660Bro the entire planet got nuked, raped or eaten, at this point who gives a fuck about Imuri.
>>288056426That's just not true. The difference is that now you see their real names instead of their weeaboo usernames.Back in those days I used to write E-mails to scanlators to give my thanks and I was shocked how many revealed themselves to be teenage girls from Peru or some shit.>>288056858SMT3 Nocturne
>>288055099>>288055170>>288055237Where the fuck is God? Why is he letting the world be destroyed?
>>288057439Leviathan is always gonna side over the demons rather than the humans. Never mind that nukes and like were invented because Mammon instilled in humanity the need to obtain more power to crush the weak.
>>288056891Sure if you're a woman who can't control and focus her anger. Satan has been planning this for millennia.
>>288056626It's obviously going to be the reverse time thing. Whenever so much radical shit happens on a single chapter of a manga that has supernatural shit going on, it is always the start of a "restore the world" plot.
>>288057564All part of the plan bro.
>>288057564If he was willing to chuck a spear at Lucifer to stop him from nuking Gehenna, then the events of this week must certainly be in his plan. I assume it's gonna be based on the End Times.
>>288057439Please understand levi's doesn't have a brain
>>288057591Almost makes me prefer getting one full chapter for each day, but it could also feel like a drag when you realize the pattern.
>>288056858He'll probably try to form an army to try to fight the forces of heaven when they come down like they are supposed to for Judgement Day, with the objective of becoming the new God and rewriting the world in his ideals.And he will be 100% in the right like every time he's shown up on the manga. He really is a weird character to fit into anything because he's more heroic than the messianic figure MC lol.
>>288057039What do you mean? Everything's going according to the divine plan. Yes, those girl getting their asshole raped bloody is absolutely necessary. God works in mysterious ways.
>>288057439It was humanity's nukes though.
>>288057650Lucifer knows enough about the plan to not interfere though, as he already said stopping it from happening causes something worse. I wouldn't be surprised if him looking peeking into the plan was specifically to remove him from this scenario (as having an "angel" that's really a demon come down to Earth to save people would cause many problems).
>>288057699>as he already said stopping it from happening causes something worseWorse than getting nuked, eaten drowned or raped because of the biggest woman moment since Eve took the fucking apple?How?
So what kind of ending do you think we are getting, Devilman, Evangelion, Universal reset, time travel, South Park Bigger Longer and Uncut, or something else?
>>288057598>. I assume it's gonna be based on the End Times.AH! Lucifer himself said his massacred happened *before* the End of TimesThis is just a lil' accident, bro
You know who could've prevented all this?Marco.
Also I wonder what Satan will do after Baba Yaga, considering it seems like Lucifer is less concerned about Baba Yaga and the Last Judgement and more about something else.>>288057745See this page, also one more.
Imuri caused all this, she was the catalyst. She is beyond redemption at this point.
>>288055129Yes, I wish this happened in real life too.
>>288057439Anon, she's a fish. A fucking FEMALE fish at that. Doing something that makes sense would be out of character.
>>288056183What's really cowardly is only portraying adults. Imagine the children during all this madness.
>>288057765Lucifer should have been the MC of this manga. Paradise Lost but a shonen. The only chapter where Josh came even close to being as cool was the "If they die I can just bring them back. In my current state, I can do it" moment before he became a permacuck.
>>288057771She was just another link in the chain. Satan caused her to do her shit, which caused josh to fuck up his powers, just as humanity being a shit caused him to lose faith in his path which also lead to that, and his fucked upbringing that created his mess of a mental state. If you really need to decide on someone who everything can be linked back to as a sole primary cause of everything that went down then the only real option is God___
>none of this would've happened if he didn't ignore leah pining over himFuck my MC man, he deserves nothing
>>288057745Not letting it happen would have lead to something else worse taking its place according to Lucifer. Without Josh on his side he can't change anything.>>288057855Laios already had his own manga to star in.
Sloth will save the day alongside Josh
>>288057872He could have put the entire world to sleep comfily forever too. He's had at least 4 moments like this.
>>288057472>biExactly, so not a lesbian then.
So considering that both Verge and Josh have had their "lovers" taken from them, are they gonna teamup now?
>>288057879The only decent thing left is to mercy kill all of humanity.
>>288057762unironically if Marco was the one who was guarding imuri things would't get that bad
>>288057652It's really weird how little the manga goes into questioning faithEven when he "betrayed" heaven, Josh always talks about it in a "I know I'm wrong about doing this, but oh well, it is what I want to do" way and never "Wait, why the fuck do things have to be this way" Though I guess questioning a religion is hard to do when you know heaven, hell, demons, angels and God are all real lol.
>>288057957>day 5 is Bel mercy killing humanity by sending them off in a blissful slumber>day 6 is Lucifer leading an awakened hell to war against heaven over the fate of humanity's souls>day 7 is Satan somehow making the situation even worse(?)Given that the world is basically already destroyed at this point I can only assume Satan's plan is outright trying to kill/replace God somehow or somethng of that magnitude.
>>288057753The End Times are a series of events, with the Last Judgment being just one of those events. It's very likely this current massacre and the Last Judgment are both part of the End Times.
>>288056626>>288057591I don't think time reversal is on the table. What can be done is mass resurrection though, and at a larger scale this entire thing a fakeout to fulfill what Lucifer saw.
Man this chapter was so wild that by the end of it I didn't even remember that America got nuked while a literal demon lord was saying Trump's motto. I had to scroll up the thread.
>>288055745unlike the tangerine pedophile, mammon doesnt want to have sex with his own, underage, daughter nor sell his country to israel>>288056183you cant rape men you silly>>288057872no one cares about you femcuck. go eat grass or something
>>288058026A popular interpretation of Satan is that even though he knows he's destined to lose to God, he can at least ensnare as many human souls away from God as possible and deny them eternal salvation. Everything Satan's been doing so far seems to be in line with that, with the Baba Yaga declaring to the whole world that God isn't real combined with the demon lords wreaking havoc on the Earth with no hint of anything from Heaven coming down to save them. It's a great series of tribulations that would certainly test any Christian's faith.
>>288058038Unironically would be another bad option. Just go full wipe the slate clean.
>>288058026Kill, that's Baba Yaga's stated goal.
>>288058093>women support joshleahThat's news to me.
>>288058093>you cant rape men you sillyOf course you can, but then you'd have to show gays as the bad guys and the mangaka can't have that.
>>288058026>I can only assume Satan's plan is outright trying to kill/replace God somehow or somethng of that magnitude.I don't know why you put that on spoiler text when wanting to replace God is literally the reason Lucifer/Satan gets kicked from heaven and becomes so buthurt he starts trying to get people to sin on the actual biblical canon.
>>288055237> not a single dark colored rapist in the picture
>>288058105>Everything Satan's been doing so far seems to be in line with thatWouldn't it have been better if Baba Yaga didn't glass most of the planet before satan and the other demons had time to corrupt them though? kek
>>288057993He's Catholic, so he can just go to confession, pay his penance and be okay right?
>>288058173Nice detail.
>>288058154If you forget everything that has to do with Virgil Sure
>>288058173They author and artist are japanese. They probably have Paris syndrome and still think France is a white country.
>>288058173There's 1(1!) brown character in the entire series and she is died
>>288058173TND probably happened on day 1.
>>288058209I don't think his income from baking is enough to buy a pardon for his sin of trusting Imuri
>>288058173Anon they are in France>>288057993Josh never really thinks critically about his faith and the way things are. He mostly just literally memorized the commandments because of Abbot Nicholas's horrific teachings, hence why he ripped out his eye over a misinterpretation of a Bible verse. Josh going into a depressive fit over realizing that humans are very capable of sin and that sin will in turn empower the demon lords is an easy example of this, as humans being very fallible is, like, a core tenet in the Bible.
Really good manga. I don't hope for a good ending but I do hope Josh puts that bitch Imuri out cold for all she did.
>>288058254Nah the only blacks that died in Day 1 are the ones in America and western countries. Lisa says she will crush the economic powers "from the top down" and most of Africa is so far down the list that aint no way she got to them in a single Day.
>>288055259The small chimp out aganist Asmodeus will look like a fucking joke after Josh gain his redemption
>>288058272>but I do hope Josh puts that bitch Imuri out cold for all she did.I'm betting this won't happen.
>>288058306After this chapter it's hard to paint Imuri as a victim.
>>288058306Yeah I think it is way more likely that the story will end with Josh becoming the last demon lord after all the others die/are killed by him during whatever is going to happen, and Imuri being the only thing he has left after they are left behind stuck on the hellish post-Judgement Earth with whatever sinners and demons survive. Think the ending of Land of the Lustrous but with a woman to ruin your life instead of eternal peace.
>>288055099She is so cute bros.
>>288055099>You naughty childrenI got hard.
>>288057650It's fucked up to say but Lucifer really is the hero they need
Is the papacy in conclave right now? Old fucks better elect somebody soon before people are physically incapable of seeing the white smoke
>>288058621Pope Leo (Leah pulling a Pope Joan) will save the day
>>288058621As if Baba Yaga didn't nuke Rome.
>>288058264>Anon they are in FranceExactly.
>>288058030This. Humans had to become Godless before God wave-nuked them. God waits.
>>288058621The only white smoke rising from the Vatican right now is radioactive.
It's not "Glorious" in the original Japanese.It's GREAT
>>288058621They are in heaven anon
>>288055287The pitch we were shown was weak, but it seems like a lot of women didn't take The Deal. At least enough for Asmodeus to be happy. Did Baba Yaga just skimp on the details like "we're going to teleport Russia's stockpile of nukes onto every capital of the planet and the only way to live is to become a nuke immune witch"?Also, what about young girls that wouldn't understand the stakes, just that they don't want to eat the gross chicken-thing in front of them? Did Granny Yaga just leave them to die?>>288055278Funny how Mammon was the only one to immediately go "what the hell is she doing?" since he seems to be the only one who gets that eliminating all of humanity puts a hard stop on harvesting sins/souls.
>>288055259Why did they leave him there?
>>288054928>America nukedUhmm... Based?
>>288058962>The pitch we were shown was weak, but it seems like a lot of women didn't take The Deal.God fearing women exist anon
>>288059012And now they are getting RAPED for their devotion.
>>288054845yeah i can tell a woman wrote this slop
>>288058932As if
>>288059024G*d can't unrape them.
>>288059024St Augustine says raped women are still virgins and honourable in the eyes of God
>>288059039yes he can, he is not you
>>288058962why would they take the deal baba yaga just shows up cause mass massacre, says some bullshit and you don't even have time to process anything, will the outcome even matter if they took the deal satan will just purge the witches eventually
>>288054873>>288055170>Communist witch has a pact with the lord of gluttony
>>288058962Lisa never was prioritizing on liberating all the women that existed in the current world. Her plan was always to completely destroy it and rebuild it according to her own ideals. The choice she gave women was to give the illusion of her "revolution" being anything noble.If she did care about the current world's women, you'd see the witches continue to offer pacts to them during the massacre instead of just making it a one-and-done deal.
>>288054845I respect the author for committing to the bit with Mammon and not holding back. >>288054901>>288054928Adding it to the collage. It was fun while it lasted but Tachibana is kill now.
>>288058621Baba Yaga has a nuke floating right above the vatican to drop the moment the smoke goes from black to white just as a final fuck you to the church
>>288059213I didn't remember him appearing with Leviathan and never made the connection he was the punching bag of the manga
>>288056626We'll nail Josh to the cross and make him pay for our sin (again)
>>288059012That's a given, but there should also be a significant amount of them that are ambivalent or worse, especially young adults. Even considering that many of them would be aware demons exist.>>288059083Taking out the obvious like mothers, devoted girlfriends/spouses, etc. who wouldn't abandon their men/sons/etc, they presumably don't want to experience the apocalypse and a magic vision that addresses this directly would presumably be tempting. They also wouldn't be aware of getting purged, just the current impending doom.Also, I wonder if the magic embryos are Lisa's answer to the "how will they reproduce" question or if it's some other weird plan and she'll try to pull a Lucifer by causing a mass apotheosis of some kind.
>>288054901>>288054928IT KEEPS HAPPENING!!!Mamonation our response?
>>288057876>Lucifer tried to warn them>>288055099Remember last thread when someone said that Leviathan wasn't bad? Yeah, fuck you anon specifically. >>288055134I really hope this is a sign this is all some kind of mass illusion. >>288055237And here's this bitch once again just winning by doing nothing. >>288055259Wow, I can't believe that Joshua is fucking dead. Like literally, I'm coping so hard right now.
>>288059615Just keep grinding Just keep hateing The Man will always be on top
>>288055134I love Beelebub is the master of half-done phrases
>>288059001He was literally dismembered and had a sword driven through his skull. Lisa was actually pretty thorough killing him (and it seems like for at least 5 days he was pretty dead).
This series is so comically woke it goes back to being comically chudishJust giving the best argument to never ever give women a position of power lmao
>>288056157Name one time a woman did something right in this manga
>>288059725Woman are women's worst enemy.
>>288057250the men are still doing the raping thoughever
This is honestly so based, hopefuly it doesn't get reverted right away. It'd sour the whole thing for me
>>288059741leah
well that escalated quickly. I hope things aren't reversed, and at best we get resurrection of the dead who didn't succumb to sin and their memories are wiped.
>>288059830>Let a demon murder her entire town>Knew Imuri was a demon but didn't do shit until it was too lateLeah is best girl but when exactly did she do anything right?
>>288059830
>>288059929That's just another parallel between Leah and Josh, they both got tricked by a demon but Leah spent her life trying to make up for it while Josh just became a wagecuck
>>288059741
>>288059741>strongest Exorcist of her time>shows up with 79 loyal exorcists>shit talks Beelzebub>throws hands for God knows how long>gives him one final middle finger before passing away>Left behind a good student Sister Rosa was too good for this world.
>>288059984>>288060004>Got dozens of exorcists killed, causing the church to rely too heavily on their next chosen which led to the literal apocalypse
>>288060030Ah yes let a demon lord take hold on Earth and do nothing instead of having the exorcists do their job. God even sent Archangels for the fight so it's on God, not her.
>>288057765I miss my nigga Lucy
Maybe i just don't know how to count but are we in the final arc? Is Satan the last sin? I thought there was like a secret one that was frozen?
>>2880600982nd last
>>288059213>Tfw this is likely his final jobbingI'll miss him desu
>>288060098We're currently at the 7th sin, wrath, which is Satan's sin but currently co-opted by Baba Yaga. There's likely a secret 8th, probably love which is Satan's actual arc.
>>288055134why the fuck is beelzebub sharing his food with others
>>288060030>Got dozens of exorcists killedDo you think there would be less casualties if they didn't marshall all their best fighters to stop Beelzebub?
Hate to interrupt the shitposting gents, but those saying rewind is impossible are forgetting that Bel CAN manipulate time.When he formed the Ark and slept the whole planet, time was entirely stopped. It's not impossible he could do even more than that if he had the power for it (and, I imagine, our king of the downtrodden is quite powerful right now just like the other Demon Lords.)For all we know he could un-happen this through dream bullshit, flipping the dream world and reality or something.That aside, Beelzebub seeing Bel's snail and immediately stopping himself from devouring the corpses is actually insanely suspicious. Maybe Bel could have sent Beelzebub's ass to the dream world if he touched the snail at all?
>>288059213>TachibanaThe only real loss this whole chapter, rip best girl.
>>288060069>>288060170There'd be a lot less casualties if she wasn't such a jobber that couldn't even beat Beelzebub with the backup of four archangels (reminder that 1 archangel > Satan)
>>288060192Mammon, get off the phone.
HE WILL SAVE US FOR SURE.
Satan won.
>>288060181I really hope we don't get a redo and we just fully commit to the end times. If the mangaka really want to undo the damage they can always just end the series with the 1000 year rule of Christ on earth since that already comes with resurrection of the dead.
>>288060244>Still got nervous in this confrontationFor all of Satan's banter and smugness, Josh still could do something.
>>288060233>All hope resides in the biggest giganeet ever
>>288060244I honestly think Satan's keikaku with Josh is done at this point, his goal was to weaken Josh to the point Baba Yaga would beat his ass and he succeeded.If Josh revives cause of Bel, I fully expect Satan to go "oh shit".
>>288060192>that couldn't even beat Beelzebub with the backup of four archangelsThe literal chosen one couldn't even beat Beelzebub either.
Angels are reaching Dragon status with their """""""waiting for the right moment"""""" shit in this chappie whoppie desu
Bel was right btw.
>>288060181I think that was more of a distraction than change of plans he was going to feed the corpses to the nephilim regardless.
>>288060322What kind of material is his hoodie tho, it looks imposibly comfy
>>288060326His mood was basically instantly killed the second he saw the snail though, I think there was something else there besides just a 'distraction'.>>288060340Pure Sloth, if you wear it you instantly fall asleep forever.Bel's a strong boy to keep going despite it.
Sooo... are the Demon Lords gonna start squaring up on each other soon enough, or will this be a re-gauntlet for Josh?
>>288060277I wonder. I doubt Satan's plan was to get bound by Baba Yaga for all eternity, so he obviously still has a trap to spring.
>>288060181Bel's entire thing was wanting to put people into a dream world where all their wishes come true. We then get a very fast paced sequence of all of Baba Yaga's wishes coming true with multiple panels worth of emphasis on Bel's snails. While I'd like the plot to commit to this, a fakeout is definitely still on the table.
New MC when
>>288060498Satan absolutely has a trap to spring, but that's almost certainly against Baba Yaga herself rather than Josh. (Maybe he'll sabotage the ritual fully and basically cause her to self-destruct and taking all of her newly made witches with her?)He probably has a few in mind, but with how he reacted and acted against Josh, I think his plan for him is done after Yaga killed him and left his corpse to rot for several days.
>>288060181>>288060521I do remember his snails showing up earlier in the arc.
>humanity instantly failed himman..
>>288060277Satan's plan revolves around his frozen wife, this is just the beginning
>>288060004
>>288060621I'd typically not want to be fair to humanity normally, but, uh, there wasn't much they could do specifically about Baba Yaga nuking every country on Earth and then Levi-tan giving every continent a bath.I imagine he spoke of humanity enduring and prevailing over tribulation here, instead of an impossible "you guys can definitely beat up this witch right after my death."
>>288060621>>humanity instantly failed himThe game was rigged from the start. Throw everyone into a literal apocalypse and the opportunities for goodness are going to dwindle. >>288060639I had it all wrong.
>>288060639YOU GOT IT ALL WRONG
>>288060646They could've >not taken Baba Yaga's offer>not followed a literal demon for revenge>not started rape cults among survivorsJust to name a few
>>288060681Here's a question for you anon.Do you think everyone did that instantly?Do you think everyone immediately took that offer, fell under Mammon's whims, or went mad with lust?There are the sinful in this apocalypse, but there are certainly still the righteous the Pope put his hopes into.
>>288060622Yeah it is, but Josh's part in that is done most likely, Satan is likely manipulating Baba Yaga/Lisa in some way for the sake of (probably) Lilith and using Imuri for that in some way too.
>>288060681>>not taken Baba Yaga's offerWe know people didn't take it, she only made the offer to half the planet though>>not followed a literal demon for revengeWe also saw that some of the higherups within Mammon's organization were sincere in their attempts to do better. Until their boss showed up and blew a guy's head off and the others seemed to fear their own demise. >>not started rape cults among survivorsOk, this one is going to require you put on your thinking cap. But just like with the other civvies whipped into a frenzy by Mammon, not all of humanity is going to agree on anything. On top of that emotions and literal manipulation by demons are on the field here. For the rape cults, these guys are both pissed at the tragedy brought on by Baba Yaga, probably being controlled by Asmodeus, and venting their anger and frustrations which is still a human thing to do without demons in the mix.
>>288060719Fair enough, this chapter has been focusing on the worst.
>>288057336Wrath is all around right now. People taking out their anger on whoever is there or whomever looks closest to the people at fault, wrath in the survivors of all the disasters, wrath in righteous fury towards god, etc. Satan is just going to top up on it all before he really steps in
>>288060719>or went mad with lust?It only took a few days at most
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>>288054845>>288054901Is Tachibana dead
>>288060639You motherfucker
>>288060897No, Mammon saved her so she can watch him job to Satan in the secret final arc
>>288058154Didn't we get a whole arc about josh being bad touched and that being played dead serious
>>288060869>It only took a few days at mostAre we forgetting how this setting works? Asmodeus even says that the quality of lust is poor right now so my read is that she's flaming embers instead of a raging bonfire of human lust.
>>288060927we are following the events that happened in a few days so its fair to assume they are doing it since the start of the nukes
>>288060994I thought when anon is saying that it's only been a few days, that the time it took for pockets of humanity to devolve into fullblown rape orgies was too sudden.
>>288061027i got the impression that happened in the first days when shit got fucked everywhere
>>288060927>>288060869The lust is not borne from true lust but more out of anger and revenge from men while women are made to endure said lust. No wonder its not the best kind of spicy lust like forbidden love or NTR
>>288059725The series isn't woke at all. The only thing you could call as such are the obnoxiously shallow comments about how high standards are for women. If you haven't noticed that hasn't played any role whatsoever during this arc, which is about much more personal topics. Both women in the spotlight are criticised by the story and characters for their behavior.The manga outside a few things here and there has been refreshingly reasonable.
>>288060290Good lord I love Beelzebub so much. Best boy.
>>288060665Could the connector have taken the demon lords?
>>288061306It all depends on if Imuri gets redeemed in any way whatsoeverIf she gets redeemed it will be all woke regardless
>>288061626>in any way whatsoeverRedemption through great personal effort, self-reflection and penance isn't woke at all and would be very in line with the themes of the manga. If she gets handed a redemption after saying sorry once or something like that I'll agree with you though.
>>288061626
>>288061684imuri doesnt deserve redemption she deserves emptiness and to be forgotten and in hell watch as everyone but her get their highest dreams
>"But you see, it's definitely Imuri's fault Satan is actively sabotaging the planet and set up Baba Yaga to cause the apocalypse. >Let us ignore the time Imuri actively tried to save Lisa and Angelo but Satan cucked her actively.>It's DEFINITELY all her fault.>Satan? Oh what a smug scamp, love the guy.
>>288061684>>288061726I'm fine with her earning redemption, but... I've no idea how's she's going to do it. She's probably the 2nd worst person in human history right after Lisa being Number 1.
>>288061794I think the most proper redemption for Imuri is for her to sacrifice her own happy ending and let Josh go in order to restore his power and save the world.
>>288061761Don't take agency away from women! Imuri made her choice and suffered the consequences. Again, and again and again. Nobody forced her to work for Satan.
>>288061828I... don't think her 'letting him go' would restore his power?It's not like she has some active power drain, the reason he lost his power was due to channeling Bel's power and then having sex/losing his purity.Irumi could have been erased after they had sex and Josh would still be functionally powerless compared to Yaga (which was the entire point of Satan's plan.)Only Best Boy Bel can save us now.
>>288061882Oh yes, I'm sure Satan would have let her go, it's not like he's the great deceiver who literally caused the angels to fall from heaven in the first place and GAVE the 'curse of eve' TO Eve.It's almost like Yaga is being manipulated through the sheer rage of countless wrathful souls by the literal sin of wrath, Satan.
>>288060553MarcoNation our time is now!
>>288060639No manga is safe from Kenganchads
>>288061911Guess you're right. It's not easy to escape him. However Lisa is an idiot. It's embarrassing how easily she was tricked. At the end she willingly walked into a trap too. She was a medieval prostitute so it makes sense I suppose.
>>288061911Yes he would, she is necessary because she is willing to go at any lenght for her dream even dooming everyone else so it was safe to use her
>>288061886I didn't mean just Imuri leaving Josh would instantly return Josh's powers to him, but redemption goes both ways. I do think that for Josh to earn back his powers he needs to be redeemed for straying off the path himself, and he needs to give up Imuri in order to start that redemption. I think the best way for Imuri to start her redemption is to get out of the way of Josh's. Josh and Imuri sacrificed the world for their own little happy ending, so the best way to repent is to sacrifice their happy ending for the world.At the very least I really hope things aren't resolved with the power of love or something like that, would be a massive cop-out at this point.
>>288061761>Does Satan's biding >Gets mad when it results in something satanic happening >Does it again each time he asksImuri has no excuse
>mangaka trying to make some scathing commentary this entire arc>it still just all boils down to women doing dumb shitKino.
Women just can't reject Satan's cock.
>>288062143Witches are supposed to kiss his asshole, not his dick.
>>288062189>Witches are supposed to kiss his assholeThanks for reminding me about Keyman in the funniest way possible.
>>288062134never forget eve
Bel is best boy and the only character in this entire manga to do absolutely nothing wrong. Yes. Absolutely NOTHING wrong.
Where ARE the church blokes? We've gotten nothing on them since Leah and Marco faced off against Satante.
>>288062699probably got nuked, they couldn't do shit against Baba Yaga
>>288062699>Where ARE the church blokes?Most likely waiting out the nuclear fallout in a Vatican bunker
>>288055207>>288055237How wasn't France already nuked?
>>288063423The nukes made France look better than it did before, actually.
All of this chaos, sin, and devastation and you faggots will still defend demons and say Marco was wrong.
You know what sucks. At the end when Lisa is beaten she'll probably get one of those shitty "you're removed from the afterlife" kinds of deaths most likely proceeded by a "I regret nothing" speech instead of hell. Now what would be based is if she has one of those gibbering final forms where the villain basically becomes a dementia patient with god like powers like that faggot Louis in Metahor
>>288059725I was thinking the same. It is so overtly feminist that it overflows and becomes based instead, as every chapter turns into "Local Independent Woman Ruins the Day for the Nth Time".
>>288063670I think Lisa losing control entirely is basically guaranteed, the writer has focused on her almost doing so like 5 seperate times.So Lisa will probably get her soul fractured and then everyone has to fight the spirits making up Baba Yaga violently exploding everywhere.
>>288054845>MAGA arcWhy do leftist hate drumpf so much?
I kinda wanna see Josh as the Antichrist
I honestly never got what people saw in Imuri in the first place for people to like this relationship. She always came off as the most basic romance heroine you could possibly write. You'd think the fact that she was essentially betraying the MC and working for satan would go somewhere but he almost instantaneously forgives her the second she wakes up and they have sex. Even him seeing that she was outright leading people exactly like him to their deaths didn't put much of a wrench in things. Josh had to basically give up the entire world for her and she's essentially given nothing back, it's the average tuesday really.
>>288063952Imuri probably hates herself for that fact.
>>288059725The story has about as much to say about morality or society as something like "Crossed" or "The Boys". There's nothing really deep going on here, just shock value to sell more volumes. Painting characters as "Sympathetic" goes right out the window when they casually kill millions of innocent people(all of whom are faceless) for moronic and evil reasons, but you always see this in manga almost like it's expected, maybe because Japanese authors(or even western ones) don't comprehend ontological evil.Enjoy the slop for what it is, an excuse to draw carnage, laugh at jobbers, and root for Baba Yaga to spend eternity suffering in the deepest pit of Hell for betraying a confidant.
>>288064024i'm genuinely not convinced. She's gone through this a thousand times by this point and she's never seemed all that beat up about it. There was a chance to confront imuri about this right after she woke up post lucifer fight but Josh just instantly forgave her so it's whatever. I feel like at worse Imuri will just sacrifice herself, but I feel like the people who think that the author will genuinely condemn her for her actions are delusional
Like, i've read this manga from start to the current chapter and it genuinely baffles me why people think Imuri is a deep and interesting femc and all of this will pay off, she's gone 100 chapters being the most boring female lead in a romance i've ever read, going through every cliche in complete lockstep and never breaking out and feeling like an actual memorable romantic lead. The second she gets some actual development in her actual backstory it's both treated as a joke and pushed to the back by it also being Lucy's backstory. I'm not attempting to start shit nor am I speaking in bad faith, I just genuinely fundamentally do not understand what people see in Imuri.
>>288064054She already sacrificed herself when she almost got killed by Marco. I don't think the mangaka will make her redeemable to the eyes of plenty of readers as the pairing is still the endgame, but to say she doesn't have any resolve nor care about Josh more than the other victims that suffered because of her is pretty ignorant.
Bel will save the world in exchange for Imuri taking his virginity.
>>288064172I feel like if Imuri truly cared about Josh she would have never gotten together with him and defy the plans of Satan. She knew that going through with it would doom the world and likely him as well and she did it anyways
This story is somehow omega feminist, and also has some of the most hypocritical evil women possible.The current villain is the most hypocritcal one yet, she's "destroying the world for the sake of women" while simultaneously being small balls bullshit and really she's just angry her gay lover didn't gay love her more.All the demon lords have been hypocrites but she's the worst one, destroying the world for entirely fake reasons.All of her backstory was retarded; she was saved by a man, which caused her to hate all men and blame them for everything. She should know more than anyone her reasons are wrong but instead she doubles down and if you point out holes in her logic she just says "exceptions don't prove the rules".>>288057564All part of the plan, an extremely long term plan.
>>288064047what you are talking about she is not painted as sympathetic
>>288064178Josh will become a virgin again.
>>288055259I wonder if the weak translation of the final line made it harder for people to understand the bible reference, and harder for people to understand what's being foreshadowed.
>>288064246Lucy got gangraped, that was a pretty obvious way to paint her as sympathetic. Most of the witches get a lot of talk about how they're outcasts and want to get back at the church. The narrative paints them as wrong, yes, but they're very obviously sympathetic. I think them being culpable in the return of beelzebub was too far though there's no sympathy you can garner after that
>>288064242i don't think it is that much unless the author tries to sugarcoat imuri or lisa, they all the way through demonic, it portrays things in a pretty bad light
>>288064178>taking his virginity.He already had a kid though.
>>288064394His other virginity.
>>288064282Yes but anon is trying to pretend the story is trying to claim the narrative is painting them in the "correct" and purely "justified". It doesn't matter the author tried to create scenes where they are meant to be sympathetic if you can't grasp the whole that's an entire skill issue of the person.It's trying to pretend the witches didn't have hands on killing named characters already,fuck sake lisa got mikhail eaten alive by bugs last chapter
>>288064443I mean if that's true I disagree that the author is trying to show them in the right, but you have to agree it gets a bit comical in attempts to make them sympathetic. Like that one page a while back where Josh says "oh how many people did the church kill on suspicion of witchcraft" when the priest brings up the witches killing 200 or so people. It feels like the author has overall done a poor job making me feel reasonably sympathetic for the villians due to how disproportionate their crimes are compared to how they were wronged.
>>288060754>We also saw that some of the higherups within Mammon's organization were sincere in their attempts to do better. Until their boss showed up and blew a guy's head off and the others seemed to fear their own demise.That guy was the US envoy at Baba Yaga's meeting with the Pope. I assumed he was the President, but on rechecking, the chapter only says that they're representatives of major countries, not that they're the actual leaders themselves.
>>288055259just rub some dirt on it bro
>>288064483But i think that's the goal, the author is not trying to create sympathy for certain villains, Its more just "reason", take lisa for example she already hated men before everything, she didn't give two shits about the person that tried to help her, and satan just had her gang raped so she could be more angry and get in touch with baba yaga, it's like the author is trying to avoid a situation like Imuri like people are still trying to find excuses for her.
>>288064289I don't think the feminist themes in this story have ever been particularly subtle. Every few dozen chapters you have some character lampshading it. Well I will say it started out much more subtle than the the most recent arcs.Also yes I think the author sees Imuri as an almost entirely sympathetic figure, oddly enough. Its hard to tell how much of its sincere or whether there the contrast between what we see and what we're told is on purpose.
>>288064584The thing is if that's the case you never needed a reason for the witches to be witches, wanting power is a justification as old as storytelling itself. Showing someone being abused on screen's only reason to exist narratively is to make you feel sympathy for them. Imuri also doesn't really work as an example because the author clearly wants you to feel sympathy for all of her relationships ending badly as well, the whole Golem scene was reminiscent of that.
>>288064612It's not subtle but it's also not subtle how many of them end up being the cause of misery, i'm trying to ignore author possible perspective because i feel i will just get biased against what the work actually presents. I wouldn't be surprised if the author is a feminist myself.>>288064643I never once felt sympathy for them but i can understand what you are trying to say, i see it as an attempt of trying to make it more "realistic" just like how every women in this manga can't follow logic once in their lives.
>>288063952For everyone it's pure author fiat. For Josh he's unironically the most vulnerable to those kinds of girls because he has absolutely no defense and has so much trauma that he would instantly became dependent
>>288054899It's accurate, it couldn't be more accurate, the US is literally Mammon territory RIGHT NOW
>>288064443>>288064246>what you are talking about she is not painted as sympathetic> it gets a bit comical in attempts to make them sympathetic.That's my point, but we might be talking past each other a bit. Envy and Lust both get sympathetic traits: like being lonely or feeling love but not understanding it, yet it's all so aberrant because they're massacring loads of people without a care later. Baba Yaga is sympathetic in either incarnation because in one case she was driven insane by trying to preform a noble duty(purifying souls) and in the other she's committing mass acts of cruelty because she was burned alive at the stake(immolation hurts) and she believes it's the only way to eventually end suffering.Demons only elicit pity because they're creatures of sheer suffering, but that's a misunderstanding on our part, because they chose to be evil and know it, a completely un-sympathetic condition.
>>288064825I just cant sympathize with the realistic angle, because the "why did the church prosecute people for witchcraft" is coming from Josh, not any of the antagonists. The only reason that exchange should exist is to contextualize their struggles for the reader, and therefore make them seem sympathetic. Given this is blatantly whataboutism I think it's terrible but that's what it's supposed to be and I'm unsure why I should give the author the benefit of the doubt,>>288064847I'm not talking about people in story i'm talking about the people who read this manga. She's the most popular character going by the popularity polls and she's just so unfathomably bland I dont understand it.
>>288064932>d I'm unsure why I should give the author the benefit of the doubt,I don't even give the author the benefit of the doubt that's also why i try to separate the work from his intention because i feel i would just get annoyed reading this if i think about it.
Leah will give her last eye to Josh.
>>288064932>i'm talking about the people who read this mangaOh then I'm in the same boat, it's baffling. Maybe it's a Japanese thing
>>288065389Most people on the internet in the western sphere seem to love Imuri. and to be clear i'm not talking about Imuri after we saw her backstory, i'm saying that Imuri has ALWAYS been a dogshit character and people saying that they love the Imuri Josh romance baffle me? Have any of these people read a romance manga in their lives before? Fucking Rent-A-Girlfriend has better chemistry and I mean that 100% unironically
>>288054845>A woman doesn't submit to Yaga's ideals and doesn't agree "slay queen, women rule">She immediately kills them
>>288064932Imuri is interesting to me in how mundane her awfulness is, she's just self centered and short sighted in a very ordinary way but the narrative makes it clear that's more than enough to ruin countless lives over millennia. But I get what you mean about people liking the romance specifically. Also she's still not my favorite character but i don't think she's completely bland>>288064483Mikhail kinda addresses that here fwiw
>>288065613i will enver forgive lisa for doing what she did to mikhail, my boy didnt deserve that
>>288065613>she's just self centered and short sighted in a very ordinary way but the narrative makes it clear that's more than enough to ruin countless lives over millenniaI'm not quite sure why people are giving the author the benefit of the doubt here when it comes to this? Like remember this has all happened before when it was revealed Imuri is an agent of satan to Josh and you know what Josh did? He forgave her. Like she didn't even have to justify what she did he just forgave her after being kind of mad about it initially. Why should I assume this is suddenly important now and she's gonna get called out for it.
>>288065439>Have any of these people read a romance manga in their lives before?Honestly? Probably not. Assuming you're talking about Manga+ readers I have a feeling a lot of them are normalfags reading baby's first giga edge, this is their Berserk (that fucking hurt to type) and they don't really consume much besides app crap you can get legally. On 4chan there is no excuse the bar should theoretically be higher for taste but there's no accounting for that unfortunately.
>>288065439They're supposed to be a terrible couple on purpose (I hope at least), why readers like it? It's very simpleEveryone loves oneeshota, even the dogshit ones, and especially if the shota is cute and pure
>>288063952>basic romance heroineShe see him remember the trauma of almost getting raped and all here *worry* was" it should have been my who did it not me mom "
>>288066128>baby's first giga edgeIs this manga supposed to be particuarly edgy? Not being facetious but most of the stuff that's happened sans this most recent chapter is in line with a lot of shounen I've seen. The initial chapter was very edgy but nothing really reached that level of edge since. Nothing's really treated with the degree of gravitas to really call it all that edgy imo
>>288060639lmao
>>288066204>Nothing's really treated with the degree of gravitas to really call it all that edgy imoSomething doesn't need to be treated with gravitas to be edgy. In fact, I'd say the less seriously that something that should hold a lot of weight is treated the edgier it is
>>288066190if this was all intentional like the anon above implies then yeah you're probably correct. The jury's still out on this though.
>>288065738Josh forgiving her doesn't really mean much in the grand scheme of things when he's her mark. We just had an arc showing just one of the many times Imuri's screwed someone over and gotten a bunch of people killed, and it starts with Josh realizing he's just the latest in line and ends with Lisa spelling out exactly what happened.
>>288066363maybe it's just a matter of perspective then. That backstory combined with the earlier sentiment that she's sad that all of her relationships with men end in death feel like this is setting up more of a tragic love angle where she's abused by satan into having her relationships die and the MC will be the one to finally break the cycle and give her her happy ever after as opposed to her being a master manipulator and leading men to their deaths.
The main reason I think this is that Satan's already gotten what he's wanted out of the main character and yet Imuri is still with the MC. If this was supposed to be a toxic relationship that was actually manipulation I think the shoe would drop once Satan got what he wanted but it hasn't. I really think the author is serious about this.
>>288065333I'll do you one better: Leah gets the right eye Josh ripped out all the way back in Chapter 1 and gains unlimited control over her alchemy powers. It's in the Baba Yaga's possession currently.
>>288064612Now that we’re in the feminist arc I’m surprised we haven’t gotten a Barbara face reveal
Didnt we make it clear Irumi and Josh are just Adam and Eve all over again>Eve know that falling to Satan offer will doom both of them, yet she keep on doing it out of pure selfishness and leave all the consequences to everyone else>Josh know Irumi is wrong and has the God-given power to correct her, yet he give it all up and blindly follow her whim
Taking Lisa seriously on literally anything is a fool's errand.Irumi is by no means innocent but trying to take Lisa's word for anything is quite literally worthless. Considering her deflection of guys doing good things (Angelo, Mikhail) is to instantly dismiss them.Nothing she's saying has proper merit besides very broad strokes and she's a massive hypocrite.
>>288066411The manga so far's been pretty consistent about treating people as accountable for their actions whether or not they have a sad backstory or a demon whispering in their ear, which is why I don't think Imuri would be left out here, it's just taking longer to get to it since she's such a central character.
Belphogor and Josh can reactivate the Ark, clean up Lisa, and then Lucifer resurrects everyone leaving most of the world oblivious to the near apocalypse that occurred and back to the status quo (and nothing ever happens).
this really jumped the shark, huh
Okay, this is a question that is inexplicably on my mind for no reason, what, exactly, is the shit that makes up the 'sky'/'roof' of Belphegor's dream realm?Are those feathers? Popsicle sticks? Something entirely undefined?
>>288067608Not if you've actually been reading.
>>288067684I always thought they were stage curtains, but they do seem more like wind-chime like on closer inspection.
>>288067684I thought they were curtains because his demon lord form has him on a stage
>>288056777Oh, that’s a really good theory.
>>288064519Except Meloni, probably because the Pope asked personally
>>288054928THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE SEX OUT OF WEDLOCK
>>288059030Yeah, I can tell a faggot wrote this comment.
>be baba yaga>make deal with satan>oh yeah girl, you'll totally get to rule the world, just pretend I'm not even here and keep doing your thing>say, none of you dead witches ever read the Bible right? No? Just checking, carry on.Unironically, how can she possibly expect this to end well for her?
So the good guys definitively lost right? There's no real winning this, the world is completely fucked with global nuclear destruction, mass floods and the few people left are scum of the earth and raped women
>>288068302Imuri realizes she is the problem with everything so she eats her own heart to prevent herself from ever existing then it flashes through a new timeline without Imuri where Josh and Leah fall in love.
>>288068359It's gets worse when the more she looks into it, Josh now has a harem filled with cute looking boys
>>288067684Fancy lampshades? Cilia?>>288068359>th-thank you, Mister Priest>why'd you call me that?
>>288068189Remember kids, make sure your demon gf actually cares about you, and isn't using your relationship as a fucked up coping mechanism, that alleviates her guilt over being a peice of shit without actually forcing her to change as a person. Otherwise a militant feminist will blow up the world.
>imuri is good now!>she truly loves him!here is the thingevery time she did it before she truly loved the others toothats her thingthats what a real woman is likeeven if everything went fine and she were apart from josh the next assignment would be exactly the samestop simping, retards
>>288063713What's there to not hate about him? People still had excuses during his first term, but the second one has been the most miserable shitshow in American history.
>>288056960The kid was so far past his breaking point it wasn't fucking funny. If he didn't get a break he'd have 100% ended the world himself the next time someone pushed him.Realistically, the game was rigged from the moment he was raised to be a horribly abused sexually repressed teen with half the social experience appropriate for his age.
>>288068980>she truly loves him!yeah, until Satan gives her another assignment.
>>288064235Her love is selfish.
>>288064135Shallow cunt who charmed everyone including the readers. Damn she's good at her job.
>>288064242Beelzeboy is no hypocrite. The other are retards tho.
>>288068412I knew Dante was a negative influence.
>>288068412Mikhail, Bel, and… ?
>>288054763This feels like a good page to post out of context. I'm still just dipping in and out of this series when I see threads and this is my first realization that this might take place in the "real" world.>>288054845Yeah, holy shit.
>>288069078There's no helping some people. The buyfag thread is full of people bemoaning how idiotic the import changes are, and you still had some anons desperate to pretend this was somehow not his fault or, hilariously, something the same or worse would've happened if the other one got elected. Fortunately, they were clowned on for being rank retards.
>>288068980>>288069241She's a coward. She can't face her own evil, or satan. So she copes and then carries on being a piece of shit because she can't bare to face the consequences of trying to change. She's basically running on pure cognitive dissonance.
>>288055920That's what you eat though.
>>288064275So what willl happen with our priest?
>>288068515>Fancy lampshades? Cilia?kek you KNOW she absolutely would. Girl can’t even look at a chandelier without thinking about artisanal skincraft. Interior decorating but make it war crimes.>th-thank you, Mister Priest >why'd you call me that?because you’ve been absolving her sins all arc, you autistic savior. Standing there like “I can fix her” while she’s got a direct hotline to Beelzebub in her ribcage. At this point you’re less of a boyfriend and more of a mobile confession booth.But sure, keep playing dumb. I’m sure Satan totally respects technicalities.
>>288069241she can actually choose to refuse anon, he is not forcing her she is the one choosing it, she never loved anyone
>>288069078most miserable shitshow was still the biden years anon, trump is just another whatever populist garbage
Yeah I can see it, Imuri will get whitewashed and redeemed. And this apocalypse sequence is either a dream or will get retconned via time travel or some other bullshit. I do not trust mangaka these days to stick the landing.
>>288070782>I do not trust mangaka these days to stick the landing.Yeah I'm getting to that point myself
This is all just a dream isn't it. With Bel's snails all over the place like that, not to mentioned Mamon's killed by nuclear bomb, the world completely collapsed under 1 week, and the way Beel noticed the snail and completely deflated snail.
>>288070782>>288070911>>288070972Deflated Snail?Anyway, I trust the author because they've been executing very well.
>>288070983Typo. The way he was so hyped here, saw the snail, and then didn't give a shit anymore >>288055134He knows he's in a dream.
