Recently finished AXZ and XV after putting it off for a year.Honestly not my favourite of the bunch, the music and action was good as always but I felt the villains really let it down. Adam being a prick was fun but both him and Shem-Ha didn't get nearly as much screen time as they should have.Saint Germain was alright but the way she got "duped" by Adam just made her look like an idiot. And the point about her counting her sins/killing for the greater good falls a little short when her 2 best bros don't give a single shit about collateral and sometimes revel in it. Noble Red on the other hand just pisses me off. If was just non-stop self pity every episode >"woe is me, the new world order secret society I joined betrayed me, time to kill people"And the show bends over backwards to try and make them sympathetic. They kill fucking 70k civilians in a single night in a recreation of the most traumatic event in Tsubasa and Hibiki's life, then 2 episodes later instead of immediately caving in their skulls Hibiki goes "I'm sure you had a reason, wanna be friends?". I get trying to UNDERSTAND is her whole shtick but there's a limit to it where goes from being an endearing trait to just being frustrating. If they had stayed dead when Shem-Ha lasered them I would have given them a pass but instead they come back and I just had to do a deep sigh as it became increasingly clear they were gonna be forgiven by the end of it. The genuinely ruin to whole season for me. Final ranking for me isG>S1>>GX>AXZ>>>>>XVIs anything from the dead gacha worth reading up on?
It is funny. Every season has its defenders except AXZ. They really did just rehash GX with a different crew.
>>288060082Yeah, that was more or less the common sentiment back in 2019 when XV aired. Can't believe it's been like 7 fucking years since then.
>>288060082I tried watching the first two seasons for the first time recently.My thoughts boil down to "it was ok". I was half paying attention the entire time and I barely remember what was going on because of it. The action sequences couldn't draw me in because they were largely dull and inconsistent with what beats who and why or how much damage X girl can take before suddenly being unable to fight for no real reason. Hard to care at that point.The music didn't serve to hype me up at all either. Not even the OP or ED songs were good (although season 1 ED's visuals were outstanding and memorable) which is a sin for an anime so heavily focused on music.To be fair my life kind of sucked when I was watching so maybe that had something to do with my apathy but shouldn't media be able to serve as a distraction?All that being said I did very much enjoy Shirabe and Chris' butts so I will be watching the next seasons.
>>288060258>never truly follow up on this scene
>>288060457the first two seasons are the best ones so if those didn't capture you then the rest likely won't either.
>>288060257AXZ doesn't have the glaring problems that GX and XV have, at least to the same massive extent they do, but it also lacks the incredible peaks they have so it ends up stuck in this awkward middle ground which makes everyone forget about it.
>>288060257>>288061070AXZ has by far the best final fight, with the shouted activation phrase in stride and ad libbed oraoraoraora into one handed uppercut.
I can't believe they really burned the best idea they ever had in IGNITE module in season fucking 3 and then never brought it back. The fact that we had to settle for amalgam which is lamer than the base form for the final season is a tragedy.
>>288060457Shirabe sexo
>>288061399Fuck that's true actually that scene was fucking kino.
^^288061474NOT RELEVANTAPOLOGIES ERIDAN THIS IS REALLY GOING TO HURTSOLLUX GIVE UNTO CAESAR
>>288061474I want to lick her buttcheek.
>>288061070Beef Strog song full version when?
>>288061540Which one?
>>288061575Left. It's squishier and has a cuter dimple.
>>288060973Chris kiss
>>288060973>the first two seasons are the best ones>Season one best at anythingSaid nobody ever.
>>288061760Symphogear S1 is the 50VL season. Objectively it's all over the place and a fucking mess, but it's an incredible experience regardless.
>>288061760Best at sovl
>>288061805>Objectively it's all over the place and a fucking mess, but it's an incredible experience regardless.
>>288060082XV>AXZ>G>>>GX>>>S1
>>288061760>>288061805>>288061830>>288061808I love S1 and wish all the other seasons were more like it.
>>288061938If every season of Symphogear was like season 1, it would be forgotten and dismissed as another dark and edgy magical girl anime that desperately tried to follow the trend Madoka set.
>>288060082>>288060257>>288061070Carol is the GREATEST Symphogear villain. They even had to being her back to salvage the final season, and as expected she was the best part of it. Carol mogs. Only Ver comes close.
>>2880600825 > 3 > 2 > 1 > 45 gets way too much flack from people that never saw what the natural evolution of the franchise was heading towards, and were bitter about being wrong. I watched XV as it aired and I distinctly remember the majority loving every single episode and having no idea what was going to happen next. Additionally I watched every season except for 2 as it aired, and I strongly feel that 2 is the weakest season despite rating it above 1 and 4 since thats the season where I initially dropped it because the first couple episodes just could not get their shit together long enough for me to want to keep watching, and I chose to watch Precure instead.I disagree about Noble Dead being bad, they were set to be jobbers from the beginning, and a couple seasons prior they wouldve fucked the girls up real bad. Hibiki is an idiot with a heart of gold and fist of god, expecting Hibiki to not be a complete idiot is on you, its like going to Canes to get chicken, getting chicken, eating the chicken, and then getting mad because its chicken. Its a ridiculous complaint but youre not alone, a lot of people agree with you.I just dont care for AXZ at all, i've rewatched all the other seasons at least two other times, except for 4, the only purpose 4 served was to give some prep time for 5 since they were more or less announced at the same time despite the massive release date difference. Had they done 4 and then later committed to 5 it probably wouldve had way more love put into it, but holy shit 4 was mid. 3 was fantastic and I loved Carol more than any other girl. Bitch really went "Nah, fuck you, i'd rather die than be your friend" and then killed herself (at the time). Carol coming back in 5 was something almost nobody expected to really happen, and the fact that she was still a one-man-army capable of going toe to toe with god and hold her own way longer than she had any right to was peak.
>>288062017>girl who goes "Nah, fuck you, i'd rather die than be your friend" not so dead after deciding to be their friend
>>288060082S1=G>>GX>>AXZI haven't watched XV yet but the show has been going steadily downhill for its entire run since GX. There have been sporadic great scenes, like the commander training sequence midway through AXZ, but everything else just gets worse and worse after GX.>>288061805>>288061938Season 1 felt like a heartfelt love letter to mecha and magical girl shows. >>288062017>5 gets way too much flack from people that never saw what the natural evolution of the franchise was heading towardsYou can watch a train wreck transpire, knowing that nothing you can do will stop it, and hate what you're watching, while also loving trains that are not currently going off the rails.
Season 1 of Symphogear = MadokaSeason 2 - 5 of Symphogear = Nanoha
>>288062441You should rewatch Nanoha because Nanoha S1 and A's (the good ones) are much much closer to Symphogear S1 than any of the other seasons. Later Symphogear seasons are closer to like, ViVid in tone.
>>288060082>Saint Germain was alright but the way she got "duped" by Adam just made her look like an idiot.This is why I her just as bad if not worse than Noble Red. She's supposedly super smart yet was a complete stooge for Adam every step of the way. NR were desperate so it was easy for Fudou to lead them on. Also they have cooler powers than the alchemists desu.> immediately caving in their skulls Hibiki goes "I'm sure you had a reason, wanna be friends?Bikki was already well established as Punch Jesus by this point so idk what you were expecting.
>>288062017>>288063050My issue with Hibiki’s friendship punch thing is that she never has to deal with the fallout of any event and have her views challenged.70k people died, that’s a death toll equivalent to the Nagasaki nuclear bombing or 23 9/11s in burger units. But the whole thing is just glossed over, no mourning, no scene where they have to console a child or inform a parent that there is no body, no moment for her to realise the gravity of the situation. Any potential conflict is just conveniently ignored so she can try to befriend them as if they’re just misguided delinquents.
I like these two.
>>288065238Cuuute>>288065241
>>288064151>My issue with Hibiki’s friendship punch thing is that she never has to deal with the fallout of any event and have her views challenged.That would imply that what she's doing is wrong which goes against the the theme of the series.
symphogear is difficult because the only character I can fap to is maria. tsubasa has no tits and the other girls are all too stupid to sexualize.
>>288067005I only can't sexualize Hibki because of her dumb hair.
>>288067005>implying Kirika's retardation doesn't just make her that much more endearing and fuckable
>>288067276desu
>>288061575Are Shirabe and Kirika lolis?
>>288067526people will argue about whether or not they fit their own personal definition of loli to death, but I say Shirabe yes Kirika no. The latter has a decidedly shapely body by comparison.
Why I can't have a woman like this so I can walk alongside her through sunflower fields?
>>288062004Imagine Carol as the main villian and Dr. Ver her crazy underling for a full season.Imagine the comedic potential, we could have had greatness.
>>288061474I refuse to believe her transformation sequence was meant to be even lewder but fuck do I want it to be real
>>288068074My assumption is they had her press her crotch against the pole in a close-up shot.
>>288067937because you're an anonymous asshole that pines after fictional teenagers
>>288067556Shirabe has the fattest ass in Symphogear tho keeps me coming back to her always
>>288060082>They kill fucking 70k civilians in a single night in a recreation of the most traumatic event in Tsubasa and Hibiki's life, then 2 episodes later instead of immediately caving in their skulls Hibiki goes "I'm sure you had a reason, wanna be friends?"The flanderization of Bikki is one of the main things that really killed the series for me, and it already became a problem in GX when she wants to be friends with the villain who just tried and nearly succeeded to genocide the ENTIRE PLANET (and also her fuckass deadbeat dad). Her character arc was basically complete when she gets cured of her relic shards towards the end of G, and after that they had no idea what to do with her or the plot in general anymore. The three last seasons are just incredibly formulaic action and cardobard characters shouting nonsense catchphrases and oneliners. From fun to completely soulless.S1 > G >>>>> rest
>>288069918Yeah, sure, whatever makes you happy....
Symphogear without Dr Ver just doesn't hit the same.
>>288070017>From fun to completely soulless.XV and AXZ villians are just...nothing really. They feel like they threw dice to randomly come up with ideas and designs. You see them and you feel like "who are you even?".
>>288070441Adam was based tho
Symphogear >= PriOrche >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ∞ >>>>>>> Ghost Concert
>>288071156Princession Orchestra looks very sugary and happy, does that show get darker?
>>288070367Our hero...
Ghost Concert has some good battle sequences though.
>>288062441So S1 is crap and S2-5 are great?
>>288071943Remember when anons called s1 madoka rip off?
>>288070453Dikki in Tikki
Including the FIS girls in the main cast after season 2 was a mistake. I don't dislike them, but it measurably degrades the show due to opportunity cost.You ever wonder why Seasons 1 and 2 still have time for side characters and breather episodes, and season 3 onward does not? It's because they kept the FIS girls around. S1 has two protagonists, one main villain, and one green ranger that switches sides. There is plenty of room to introduce and work with a cast that size with downtime between in one season.S2 has 3 protagonists, and 3 antagonistic gears and a final boss. In 13 episodes that still works.Now we get to season 3 and the problems arise: you have 6 protagonists, and a major villain with 4 minibosses. If you give each of your protagonists a focus episode (which you should) then thats HALF THE SEASON that just gets eaten up right on the spot, without even considering what the antagonists are up to or setting up the story or any other plot important characters. You could survive this cast size in a 24 episode season, but not in a single cour. It requires every season from then onward to play to a formula to share screentime across a cast that has grown too big, and the FIS girls don't actually contribute anything to the story they are just additional fodder for fights.From GX onward, name one thing that Kirika or Shirabe actually did that the story needed to be there? Hibiki and Chris basically need to forget that Tsubasa exists and their previously teamwork and relationships vaporize into mist PURELY so that Maria can have "I talk to Tsubasa" as her *thing*. They could have had an occasional cameo in later seasons for hype moments, but the show really needed to lean into their reliance on a dwindling supply of Linker so that they were not real members of the main cast.
>>288070367https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtFGRci8PVQ
>>288072341We don't care, shut the fuck up!
>>288061805>>288061808Fuck off, tourists.
>>288072341I always thought that GX would been way better at movie length, it would remove the unneccesary character arcs and drama(I think it was about Chris, Shirabe and Desu) that were in the middle. not to mention adding Carol´s Memories somewhere wouldve been nice and added to the character
>>288072446look I know "soul" is thrown around a lot to the point of being near meaningless these days but you're lying if you think Symphogear S1 isn't an actual solid example of it.
>>288072775Symphogear had the specific charm where you could see that the production wasn't up to par and the writing was all over the place, but you could tell that the people working on it genuinely thought that they were making something awesome. There is no substitute for earnest passion projects, and even when they fall flat people still love them because of that inherent spark within them.Its why so much modern hollywood slop feels like garbage to watch: you can sit there in the theater and feel in your bones that everyone of the thousands of people who worked to bring this very expensive movie to life did it purely for the money and didn't take much if any joy in doing so. They didn't care about it, they were just hired to make it happen, resulting in something thats technically proficient and has all the necessary ingredients but never tries to be more than it is.
>>288070017>>288072341Finally, some more people with taste.
>>288072446Tbf the average /a/non cannot watch or read something without orbiting around a meme since expecting them to not passively take in information without processing is a bit asking too much don't you think
>>288072879Obviously the show kept thinking that it only had one season left, which put the characters in a bad spot of having already done all of their character development but having more screentime force on them, but I don't regret the later seasons even if the character writing in them is weak. Carol, the Illuminati, and Shem-ha are all great villains. There are really good songs and action sequences in the later seasons. Its just how stale the protagonists become that holds the show back. I think that if they had longer seasons and an opportunity to plan further ahead the show would have been a long stronger. Like, imagine if Saint Germain's crew was introduced in the background of GX as associates of Carol's who step in to help clean up her mess because despite both being alchemists, Saint Germain's goal is ultimately to save the world and Carol's is to destroy it. They are fundamentally at odds, so it makes sense that Saint Germain wouldn't sit idly by during the final arc of GX. But this also means that when AXZ starts, Hibiki and Saint Germain have already met as allies on the battlefield, adding extra texture to the whole conversation of "we're the real good guys" shitck that they are doing. Likewise, a small rewrite of having Adam's obsession with divinity being to bring Shem-Ha back specifically (he could have been a creation of hers way back when) would make AXZ bridge into XV and let us ditch Nobel Red in the process, or at least reduce Nobel Red to disposable jobber projects that the Illuminati made.
>>288067276Is it ethical for retards to be this sexy?
>>288073154Retards should be sexy.
Rewatched in for the first time in a while. GX > G > S1 > Power Gap > XV > AXZChris is best girl. As expected, the dust on all of this has long since settled.
>>288074410Careful, some people really hate GX because of what it did to Hibiki. But apart from that it was a great season, love Carol and the dolls.
>>288060082I think the GEAHS should have all had a big orgy.With Bikki being the dominant member of course.
>>288074507It did feel like Hibiki's character kind of regressed in the early episodes. Even I'll admit that. But Carol is the best villain in the series and whatever issues Hibiki had early on ironed out quickly once their contrast kicked off. The Autoscrollers are absolute freaks and I love them. GX wasn't flawless but if that's what you're looking for, why the fuck would you watch Symphogear at all?
>>288074535Bikki double fisting Maria's asshole.
>>288074535Bikki would have to be tricked into it by Miku but once cornered she wouldn’t refuse.
>>288072864Princession Orchestra has that same charm. The writers seem to love Symphogear as well.>>288071156Yeah, it actually has a heavy theme for a kodomo show.
S1 is still the best
>>288075004>>288071726
>>288075004>>288075109So, I've seen mentions of it in recent Symphogear threads but I haven't been convinced to watch it yet.Sell me on Princess Orchestra.
>>288068037This is one of my favorite scenes in the whole show. I love the expression of utter confusion on her face, and I love that Ver was ready for theatrics at the drop of a hat. I also LOVE the following scene where she explains her evil plan to him and he basically says, "well that's fuckin' stupid."
Why does Carol look like she's going to pee on me?
>>288075604Carol can only get off when she is peeing.
>>288075641This is gonna get weird.
>>288075604Because you're a disgusting pervert.
>>288074507I understand liking Carol by why does anyone like the dolls? They have zero character, and exist solely to die for Carol's plan. Their designs are also way worse than any of the Geahs.
>>288075868You have shit taste bro.
Adam was kino
>>288075868wdym, they absolute do have character, way more than the forgettable villians from AXZ and XV.Also they're color coded with clear and distinct personalities.
>>288075868Phara is hot.
>>288074410GX is a trash season though. S1 and G are objectively great but all GX has is cheap disconnected action scenes without any of the cool character moments.
>>288075911>Also they're color codedThis matters, weebs love "I like the blue one" energy
GX is the season that actually got enough fans to make season 4&5. Before GX Symphogear‘s fanbase is pretty small.
Saint-Germain being my favorite character is the only reason I remember AXZ exists. If you asked me to name individual episodes of it I wouldn't be able to besides maybe the finale.
>>288076050Yeah, I mean the Geahs are color coded too, all magical girls are color coded. It's the reason why the AXZ and XV antagonists are so forgettable, they don't have clear colored designs, they're like the Concord characters of Symphogear.
>>288076221Poor Migu
>>288075911You're right that they won't win the competition for LEAST character of Symphovillains, but that isn't for lack of trying. Yellow and Green have no personality whatsoever. Yellow doesn't even have an actual accomplishment to her name. I wouldn't even know that any of them have names if not for Artificial Academy 2 cards that were made for Blue and Red in 2014. The four dolls could have been one doll and basically nothing about the plot would have changed. They can't hold a candle to Fine and Vers.
>>288076455Fine and Ver are main villians though, the dolls are henchmen...girls, so the comparison is a bit unfair.If you compare them to the likes of Prelati or Millaarc they're at the top.
>>288076532That comparison also pits them against Chris, Maria, Shirabe, and Kirika, which is horrendously not in the favor of the dolls (since Chris is best girl in the entire show). You're right that they are slightly better than the alchemists, but the alchemists are also terrible villains that don't deserve any positive commentary.
>>288076664>Chris is best girlAmen to that
I will repopulate a Ukrainian village with Maria
>>288076723I forgot if it was this scene or some other scene. It was supposed to be sad but then they did an extended shot of her crotch. Quite the theme clash there.
>>288075868Garie was great, easily one of the best villains in the show. Personally, I like her more than even Carol. The others, not so much. The red one, Micha? She was alright I guess. The other two I can't even be bothered to remember.
>>288076698I love Chris and her GIGA ZEPPELINs.
>>288077643
>>288074695Just say they're going to a party and all the lights are off when they arrive, because everyone's nude.
>>288077668Of course the bratty crazy ones are more memorable than the constrained adult ones.
>>288075868Because I need a double black lipstick blowjob from Phara and Leiur
>>288075131Princession is the closest thing to Symphogear, but Princession itself is closest to Precure, if that makes sense. The budget definitely shows in some areas since this is a new IP and the studio had never done a 48-episode series before. Kaneko was involved in the writing (to some extent) while Agematsu and his team at Elements Garden composed the music. They do the same voice acting while singing like in Symphogear, so it's absolutely worth watching if you're into that.
>>288072341It's funny because I was thinking the exact same thing after seeing this thread yesterday. S1 and G did their own thing because they were able to, but after Maria and the gaybies got integrated into the main cast in GX, everything became formulaic because each character had to have an episode dedicated to their fight. It got fairly repetitive when AXZ and XV got bogged down by following the same pattern instead of letting the story develop more fluidly episode-to-episode.I actually really liked Kirika and Shirabe though, and I think it really sucked shit that despite being the "chosen wielders" of their relics like the others they still had to rely on LiNKER all the way through the end of the series. It felt like shit thematically and they absolutely blew the opportunity to wean them off of it after meeting Ver again in the mind dive in AXZ.
>>288079720AXZ made the dedicated episode work better with new fresh duos.>despite being the "chosen wielders" of their relics like the others they still had to rely on LiNKER I mean it helped differentiate them and gave them a side quest. Even if they had shit lives, the LiNKER is still associated with what they endured. It's not so bad
The real issue of Symphogear is it prints money. Symphogear still gets pop shop collab every month nowadays even though the series had been ended 7 years ago.
>>288079720Yeah, the the kicker: I like Shirabe and Kirika. They are fun. The problem is that neither of them really functions without the other, they don't have meaningful connection to the rest of the team just to each other. And Maria is just a team leader character who isn't even in the running to be team leader, so she's just sadly left with nothing to do. I think that if GX and onward were 24 episode seasons, there would have been time to plan out, pace, and develop things better not just so that they were not rigidly locked into a formula by time constraints, but to give these characters room to breathe and grow beyond their flanderized concentrated self. But if you can't give the show more runtime, then the FIS girls either need to go or need to be relegated to cameos. Hell, you could probably kill off Maria outright for shock value in a later season and lose very little. To the Maria fans in the thread: I don't even hate Maria, she's just obviously the most expendable.
Kirika and Shirabe morphing into a single "Gaybies" unit is a GX+ thing. They were a bit different in G. Even then AXZ tried to give them separate development since Shirabe was paired up with Tsubs and Kirika with the idiot.
>>288080171>Kirika with the idiotShut up Chris.
>>288080045the pop up store spam is starting to piss me off because there's zero fucking tokusatsu or music aspects to it at all, they're just dressing the girls up in random clothing every single month and asking fans to open their walletsI haven't seen a single Gear-variant since the fucking Gacha ended, even the pachinko machines can't be fucked because they just adapt the seasons. Feels like I'm following a modeling agency show or something.
>>288080171>>288080244Also funny because based on G pairings you'd think Shirabe would be paired with Hibiki and Kirika with Chris, but...
>>288080273>Feels like I'm following a modeling agency show or something.>series that starts with an idol musical is whoring out its idols as fashion starsSurely you could have seen this coming.
>>288080686technically the show only has 2 idols, 3 if you count the dead one
>>288080273This is how merchandising works for literally every anime that was popular at any pointIt sucks when there's no actual new show for a long time but it really shouldn't be effecting you emotionally to see an ad for some dumb merch
>>288080966I don't know anon, Evangelion horse racing was kind of kino
>>288072341>They could have had an occasional cameo in later seasons for hype moments, but the show really needed to lean into their reliance on a dwindling supply of Linker so that they were not real members of the main cast.Yes this would have been much better use of them. "Damn we barely have enough linkr to go around"make a couple of mentions or maybe small cameo of the kids/maria living normal lives while on supervised release and communicating with the gang, wishing they could help out more>episode 8 or 10 or 11all hope is los... OH SHIT IS THAT KIRIKA AND SHIRABE RIDING A MISSILE IN FROM THE TOP ROPE???
>>288080273>they're just dressing the girls up in random clothing every single month and asking fans to open their walletson the one hand I get you, on the other I enjoy seeing the girls dressed up so I'm not ENTIRELY against it.
I just want another season of Symphogear anime.
>>288080005at least their linker reliance gave us one of the more (unintentionally(?)) funnier scenes
>>288081375they can't even get the movie out bro2.5 years and no studio or key visual
>>288081466Their timeline was 20XX. They still have another 60 years until you should start getting worried.
>>288061760Nothing else in the other series matched the hype I felt at the SYMPHOGEAH title drop at the S1 finale FOR ME. The closest thing was Ver coming back in GX.
>>288081786The Sonic Adventure 2 finale of G did for me
>ayylmaos>Ukraine is war torn>Europe becoming the "dark continent">Satanic cultWe're living in the Symphogear timeline
>>288082448Don't forget meme magic
>>288075131It's Symphogear for 6 year olds. So the edges are sanded off, but the cast is great, the songs are great, and if you can stomach the many MOTW episodes, it has a good buildup to some pretty impressive climaxes.
Kraut girl hot.
>>288083886Burger girl hot.
>>288084189She's not a burger. Isn't she half-Italian?
>>288084210Chris is half burger half nip.Maria is full ukkie. Maria has big cards.
Why they decided to make Vanessa half-jeet half bong is beyond me.
>>288084442There were hundreds of thousands of half Britis half Indians in the wake of the end of British rule over the subcontinent. It's not that confusing.
>>288084442I love her missile tits
>>288084189Why is Chris so fucking thick?
For me, it's Millaarc.
>>288085129She is half-burger, do I also need to show you her gun collection?
>>288085193But then she would be fat
They better make Symphogear vs Nanoha.
>>288060082half the fun of Symphogear, especially the last few seasons, was the livewatch threadsS1 = S2 > S4 > S5 > S3>>288062017>3 better than fucking anythingyou are terminally retarded, please cease breathing for your own good and the good of everyone around youcarol/dolls were fine, but the entire goddamned bestdad plotline was full-retard and a complete character assassination of hibiki, which they had to waste half of s4 to unfuck
>>288085157Evil women owe me sex
>>288085834Why do you (and other people) say the dad plotline was a character assassination of Bikki? I already agree that it was a stupid plotline but what makes it an assassination of her character, exactly?Not disagreeing, just curious.
>>288086096a lot of Hibiki's fucked up past is contained to keywords on the website in the early seasons so if you never read them (basically every foreigner watching the show) you just think she's a generic hotblooded genki girl
>>288086518Those backstories was not supposed to tell audience because it's too dark. Kaneko said he only told s1 director and Agematsu while making s1.
>>288086518That doesn't really answer my question so I take it that you are NOT of the opinion that her character was assassinated?
>>288086752Her having a shitty dad is not an issue. Her forgiving her shitty dad for all his shittiness is an issue.
>>288086719well it was on the website by G at least, I just checkedHe also has backstory for Kirika that he only ever told Kayano and Nanjo which you will never hear about.probably better that way considering some of the fucked up backstories you can find in Wild Arms
Hibiki's character is about reaching out, her fisting Adam to death is arguably more of an issue than not pushing her dad away, but he's a dirty fucking robot.
>>288086788>it was on the website by G at leastWhile making s2 Agematsu insisted Kaneko to tell people Hibiki‘s past even though Kaneko didn't want to do it. But because of Mikugeah, Kaneko had no choice but to wrote it on the website.
>>288086768I had more of a problem with her having a problem with her dad in the first place, honestly. The whole "my dad never gave me anything" plotline made no sense at all when they invented her "I'm fine" catchphrase specifically for that season. I don't remember her saying that once in S1 or G.
>>288087025https://youtu.be/7dB1oRbrbZY?si=tqDXoyCT5Ri-vnWRYou should listen her s2 song again.
>>288087068How about outside of the songs, friend? Spoken dialogue. In season 1 her catchphrase was "I might be cursed." I forget what her spoken catchphrase was in 2 but it wasn't that she was cursed OR that she was fine.
>>288087125nta, and I'm not going to go fucking demux a subtitle track from 2 seasons and process that shit to find an exact count, but I remember her using it regularly, maybe once every or every other episodeoften enough for it to be noteworthy and giving them enough of an excuse to use it for the shitdad plotline
>>288086788wasn't kirika supposedly related to ver in some way, either as her biological father or a close relative? to an extent explaining why she didn't get a real resolution to her personal storyline like every other character got?
>>288087125The first time Hibiki used that lines was in S1E3. It's WILD ARMS 2‘s Lilka Eleniak reference.
>>288087125>>288087329In this scene.
>>288087212No, there's just a gigantic void that he doesn't want to explain, But you can tell he's saving it for a rainy day by the fact they had a gacha game running for 7 years that wasn't allowed to explain it either, even when they did Alternate universe versions of all the girls. They had to build a fucking Kirika robot to work around it.
Why was there so much sexual tension between Hibiki and her deadbeat dad?
>>288087424this post is a self report of degeneracy and being terminally onlineyou're legit fucked in the head if you got anything like that from their interactions, just like all the mindless sheep on social shitholes going fucking nuts over the pragmata thing
>>288087498>fucking nuts over the pragmata thingThis
>>288087424Bait should at least be somehow believeable.
>>288081281Tummies
People like to shit on AXZ but I like how st germain immediately switched sides once she realized she got duped, unlike Maria who still went along with Ver and Carol who doubled down on GENOCIDE even when realizing it's not what her father wanted
>>288088374That's because Maria was 21 and St. Germain over 400 years old.
>>288088533>That's because Maria was 21Wtf I thought she was Tsubaka's age (aka a couple years above Hibiki) not a whole grown adult
>>288088680She's like four years older than Tsubasa.
>>288088374She was also one of the most clever fighters shown, and one of the only villains to use water to stop them from singing. The other two alchemists were winning until the geahs turned on X-drive, but Hibiki and Kirika start with X-drive and St. Germain outmaneuvered them like 3 times.
>>288088716Out of 10! I love her!
I just jerk off to the hot girls
>>288088811Tsubasa...
More like Nymphogear lmao
>>288061070I've enjoyed the AXZ bossfight the most, and it's not like it doesn't have hype moments, but after GX they've played it too safe. Same is true for XV.
>>288087068What does that say about dad? It's talking about her suicidal hero complex
>>288089523Kek
>>288091706>I don't remember her saying that once in S1 or G.We were talking about this.
I enjoyed the series until it was revealed a girl's "father" actually got gigacucked, was that ever adressed further?
>>288092111The cucking grandpa is a villain later. Sadly underused
>>288092111Tsubasa being the product of incest rape was one of the weirdest out of nowhere twists they did, wtf.
>>288092483It wasn't incest, Fudo just fucked his sons wife.
The difference between G and GXG:>Hibiki gets to the scene with Maria/FIS and punches Maria on sight>tries to defuse the situation but still defends herself and fights>only cries and lets go of her emotions AFTER the fight>later, gets reminded of Shirabe calling her a hypocrite who can't save anyone but doesn't shut down, she just keeps punching and only loses because she flinched for a secondGX:>gets attacked by Carol for her life and goes WAAAAAAAAAA I WON'T FIGHT>m-muh dad never gave me anything!! (what the fuck was that)>categorically refuses to fight
>>288075868>why does anyone like the dolls? >They have zero character, and exist solely to die for Carol's plan.Because that actually works in their favor, when you look at the minor villains that came after them. Because they're more plot devices than characters they don't need to be fleshed out, leaving more time to focus on Carol and our protagonists. Meanwhile, the Bavarian Illuminati and Noble Red both don't get the screen time they need, while also taking away screen time from their respective main villain.
Hibiki's XV banshee scream
Princess Orchestra is over and Ghost concert isn't hitting well. Deploy the movie trailer.
>>288092800Then again, G had the gaybies fighting each other for the most retarded reason ever while GX had one of the best intro scenes of any anime ever.
>>288093429It wasn't retarded though. Shirabe had jumped ships. Kirika was in a state of urgency and borrowed time that didn't allow her to jump ships.That said, yes, GX 01 is peak gear.
>>288091456Too flat
>>288092582 Yeah it’s not *technically* incest, it’s just Fudo deciding the family tree needed a fucking wreath instead of a branch. People act like “oh it’s fine, he just banged his son’s wife” like that doesn’t completely nuclear the Kazanari family dynamic. The reveal isn’t shocking because of blood relation, it’s shocking because it turns Tsubasa’s whole “noble lineage” thing into some NTR soap opera power grab. Absolute scumbag move either way. Fudo really looked at his clan and said “yes, I will be the villain in every possible category.”
I mess this mess so much. Nanoha is finally getting it's next installment so maybe in another 5 years we will finally get movie.
>>288070017Carol still makes sense though, the writing might not have been the best, but the larger idea checks out.>coming off of the high of G where all the girls switched to their side>they weren't even evil, they were just half tricked>actually just saved the world without anyone dying>Hibiki's father is an issue>Carol hits where Hibiki has doubts
>>288094002That entire part of the Kazanari family drama seemed like a pointless addition. S1 and G made it pretty clear that Tsubasa seeing herself as just a weapon was a response to Kanade's death, not something she'd been raised into by her family.
