I'm confused about Kenjaku, Yuji's Grampa and his dad.Kaori died at some point, and the Gramps says it right here that they all know she died. So did they know that was Kenjaku inside Kaori all along? Why would they be okay with that? Just because the dad wanted a kid?I wish Gege explained important shit like this more than simple domain.
>at some point Kaori dies>one day she mysteriously returns with stitches on her head >gramps can tell something is wrong but dad is too blinded by love/grief and in denial, just happy to have her backNot that hard to infer
>>288068704Not true
>>288068628Yuji's dad is coping, and kenjaku also gets all of her memories when he possesses her body.It's not that hard to imagine why someone dealing with grief would believe their wife had come back to life
>>288068628Kenjaku was just too breedable to resist
imagine how good kenjaku would have been at sex after a thousand years
>>288068628Thanks for reminding me that Yuji never even got a proper scene with Kenjaku.
>>288068628This plot ploint might just be the gayest thing in all of Jujutsu Kaisen
STUPID COG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>288068769>not uraume waiting for 1000 years and taking the body of a woman to fuck sukuna
>>288068704>wow, its all so interesting! Will it get any follow up and exploration? Like who Jin and Kaori used to be? Why Kenjaku choose them specifically? How Jin reacted to all of this and how he eventually died? The tragedy of the itadori family and how Wasuke wanted for yuji to be a better person than what he was destined to be?>Faggot Faggot:NOPE,NOT GOING EXPLORING THAT! NOW GO READ CURSED FORTNITE AND RIKE YUTA MORE!!!
>>288068942>Like who Jin and Kaori used to be? Why Kenjaku choose them specifically?Because wasuke was sukuna's reincarnation
>>288069040Anon, i mean ACTUALLY EXPLORING IT instead of having sukuna giving a throwaway line “actually the brat’s father or grandfather might be the reincarnation of my twin brother” and the confirm the rest in a shitty extra!This is not how good writing works, this is just the same of pic related
>>288069428It was confirmed in the story, anon
>>288068628Gege only did that because it’s a reference to Bleach. And it’s funny, like, “Wow, your mom wasn’t actually your mom—she was some weirdo using a random woman’s body.” And that’s just brushed off like it’s no big deal. Jujutsu is ridiculous. In other series, it’s just the author trying to patch something up. In Jujutsu, it’s a guy making a joke.
>>288069487Some shitty lines and “hu it makes sense” is not EXPLORING IT!Jin and Kaori are basically just NPC, we know little about Wasuke too .Why you JJKniggers can’t understand what reading and comprehension is?!Why you just let the mangaka puke on your face with some shitty “tell not show” storytelling and slurp it all with a straw like good cucked puppies?!Are you guys mentally retarded or what?!
>GegeTards slurping every single shit he throw at them and pretending it is peak writing
>>288069523>"It's exactly like [example where we're explicitly not told in the story]">"Well, uh, it's actually not like that at all... BUT I'M STILL MAD OKAY???"
>>288069552>ehi, its just like “insert name of another shitty manga”>this mean that gege can do it and he is a geniousKill yourself, gegetard!
>>288069572Imagine getting this angry just because you're a moron lol
>>288069591Imagine defending one of the recent biggest hacks in manga industry.Learn what actual good writing and storytelling is!
>>288069649Imagine not being able to separate individual criticisms from your opinion of the authorAre you autistic?
>>288069751Anon, everyone with half brain working can tell how badly gege handled everything after shibuya.Just look at how you are defending the whole yuji-sukuna-kenjaku thing.Yuji and kenny never get to interacts, like no even for a talk…imagine if Rudius and Hitogami never met that last time at the end of Moushoku Tensei?!Nor the thing is actually explored, all we got is “wasuke is sukuna twin’s reincarnation” and thats it.Kaori and Jin are not explored, neither their bound with YujiKenjaku is never explored tooWith sukuna is just implied he had a shitty past since he was an abomination since birth and thats it too.Fuck, even Ichigo in the end got an actual exploration about his birth, and so his parents!Yuji got nothing! And this is just one of the many many problems post-shibuya
>>288069943>please stop talking about my original specific complaint>PLEASE>Just start talking about everything else gege wrote instead I'm begging you pleaseeee
>>288069952Anon, the main complain is how little gege explored the whole yuji-sukuna-kenjaku thing for fuck sake.And yes, handwaving everything with “LOL KENJAKU POSSESED KAORI TO FUCK JIN AND HAVE A PERFECT SS GATCHA SUKUNA VESSEL SINCE GRANDPA IS HIS TWIN’S REINCARNATION “ without exploring anything about it IS SHIT WRITING!Imagine if bleach handwaved ichigo’s powers with “JK aizen played his little science project on Isshin and Masaki while ywach was watching on his cuck throne” without exploring it like Kubo actually did with TYBW!You cannot just set up things and just never explore them beside the very superficial “and that’s why things are currently like this”. It is shit!
>>288069984>PLEASE CHANGE TOPIC I BEG YOU
>>288068628Kenny dying in the most nonchalant way possible should've clued you into the fact that gaygay just didn't care
>>288071620He's not even dead. He's still alive as per Takaba's cursed technique, he's just been resurrected in a form that's entirely dedicated to stand-up comedy. Even by Modulo's time he's still alive.
>>288068628>Yuji was the son of Kaori(kenjaku) a sorcerer with an innate technique of her own>Literally manufactured to be the perfect vessel for the king of curses>Still couldnt see curses until the day het met MegumiExplain this
>>288071714Even that is just a probable gag.
>>288072772Umm shut up
>>288072790Nope, because Yuji's plan in Modulo hinges on embedding his soul within his fingers as cursed objects, so he and Nobara needed to find Kenjaku to learn how to accomplish this.
>>288072772Yes MeiMei hates shoes
>>288069984This person is clearly ragebaiting you anon.We all know gege's writing is shit.
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>>288076178Nani
First time a female character appears in most merch in JJK?
>>288078944>Yuka: 5>Tsurugi: 3>Maru: 3>Cross: 3>Dabura: 1>Dura: 1>Rika (fused with Tsurugi): 1
>>288078944Why are they promoting this garbage spinoff so much
>>288078944Is this the 1st time we get an official spelling of Maru's name?
>i'm confused about some idiotic half-explained plot point gege forgot aboutWe all are.
>>288078944Yuka is possibly the only JJK girl who makes for waifu core.
>>288079410Because it's the official sequel that sells a lot, and its mappa trailer has over 10m views, bro are you dumb?
I just want Sukuna to make love to meWhere is his spin off?
>>288079821You sure do sound dumb kid
Jjk is dead
>>288081738>Why would a popular best seller manga with a trailer that is breaking viewer records be PUSHED??Dumbass.
>>288068628https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxC0oOPKJaELook everyone was thinking with their dicks and pussys at the time.Don't judge them.
>>288084718I already replied to you >>288081738
>>288069943Cause you didnt get the manga, we dont follow a story, we undergo the story, just like all the charas, they dont have time or the luxury to ask questions or look further, they have bigger worries to get through and answers is not a priorityIt would have worked if it was a complete blank state but Gege did the bare minimum to understand enough with what we had
>>288072772>Explain thisSimple, awakened player, just like them, his curse abilities only became concrete after he took the finger
>>288069523You can tell this anon CAME after posting that
Is shoko just yuta with a wig?
Seeing the positive reaction Yuka and Aki from CSM had despite being absolute jobbers with zero wins and are hated by the world they live in. It really made things more apparent what killed Megumi's popularity is unironically the whole potential thing. Like there's no fucking way people are so hostile towards Megumi but love the other two
>>288068704 >>288068628It is just this simple. A nice, creepy little thing. Easily understandable from just a few pages.
>>288087103The context behind Yuka and Aki make more sense with their depressionMegumi just doesn't. In fact, we barely see him truly depress and hides behind his bitch face so when he became a bum who just cried all the time, it was really jarring. That's what killed Megumi's popularity. But I do agree the whole potential thing was a big factor too
>>288087201>crying all the time>literally one panelYou guys are just totally delusional.
>>288072772He was made to suppress Sukuna. The biggest Jujutsu existence ever.I mean, did you try to think about it at all? Was your best effort really not able to take one step forward?
>>288087103The difference is that Megumi screws himself by choice while Yuka and Aki are fucked from the beginning.
>>288087296Megumi was both though. kid was born with the super secret CT that made him a target of everyone. His fradulence just added to that
>>288087362No. Megumi was protected by Gojo and didn't have retarded restrictions like Yuka. He also was crazy sometimes unlike Aki. His main issue was trying to do something too late since he neglected shit until Yuji "died".
>>288087287I woulda said that ct isn't guaranteed through lineage. >Megumi and Kamo are outsiders made clan heads just because of it. Toji didn't get it. >Mai and Maki have nothing like their dad. >Noabito and Ogi are brothers. They have totally different techniques. >Yuta comes from a normie family>MeiMei and UiUi have totally unrelated tech.
>>288068628We dont know the details, its weird Kaori had a technique and Yuji's granpa is Sukuna's twin so they might be a sorcerer family. Gege is a hack
>>288087443Kaori is outside the family. It's Jin that was related to Yuji's grandpa and neither of them had a technique.
I wouldn't be surprised that Megumi isn't in Modulo is because Gege is so embarrassed he even wrote this character that he decided to remove him from the series altogether. No author in their right mind to write a character that badly
>>288086656Pretty sure Gege said Shoko's face was a mix of Yuta and Rika.
>>288068928Is it still gay if the guy becomes a woman?
>>288068928>>288068769Uh bros, is sticking your penis in a vagina gay?
>>288087502Megumi barely counts as a character. This isn't some agenda stuff. He's just so devoid of everything from his personality up to his "development" He is the ultimate form of how to not write a character, let alone a deuteragonist.
>>288087462>Yuji's grandpa and neither of them had a technique.We dont know.
>>288087733Megumi unironically makes Yuno from BC look like a good character.
>>288087733You're just unilaterally ignoring everything to make your claims. That's the definition of agenda.
>>288087848Tell me what Megumi has actually done to impact the story? Being the victim is not an answer. That's passive shit
>>288087854He saved Yuji's life. Notice how you completely and immediately pivoted away from talking about his personality? That's how deep into agenda you are.
>>288068628was she supposed to look like that guy's sister
Yuji really has a massive heart to not hate Megumi though.
>>288087925He's basically a buddha, but there's no reason for him to hate Megumi anyway
>>288087925>Was the reason he became a sorcerer>Killed Choso>Killed Gojo>Made him into a depressed gambling addict (let's assume he's the first to die) I find it amazing, really.
>>288069552are you really trying to defend gege's awful habit of not exploring things?
>>288069523>tell not showThis is an arbitrary rule that landwhakes from Tumblr used to spout everytime they got mad at some author. And somehow they were so loud that the whole internet ended up adopting it.
>>288087287>He was made to suppress Sukuna. The biggest Jujutsu existence ever.why did kenjaku wanted to imprison sukuna thou?
Yuta is so fucking cool bros...
>>288088134To prepare for the fingers. Kenjaku has likely not found all of them yet and the vessel he chose being Geto would raise a lot of red flags so he can't freely go around. On a side note, there's a reason why Yuji is the cage while Megumi is the vessel. Even if Kenjaku went for megumi first, he had no control of Sukuna as Megumi can't surpress it
>>288088149Gege try not to dick suck Yuta
>>288088134So Sukuna didn't kill himself running into whoever held the Six Eyes until he had all his fingers/power.
>>288088134Kenjaku is a yandere
>>288068628dropped subplot
>>288088385Yuji is the most dicksucked character in Modulo
>>288069536Gege managed to create the most popular anime in the globewho are we to judge
>>288088385>Gojofags complain about Gege glazing/shilling/loving/dickriding certain characters i.e. Sukuna/Yuta>despite one of the biggest memes in fandom being "with the exception of Gojo Satoru"I would kill every gojofag with my barehands if I could
>>288068628Why didn't kenjaku go to Yuji's grandfather, who was actually Sukuna's twin?
Maki's such a boring, one note character, she has no personality and takes time away from actually interesting women. She's also ugly. I love her so much
prime yuta = modulo yuji
>>288089799I have never bought that Yuta is stronger than Yuji
>>288089799the winner depends on who has the higher refinement domaineverything else is irrelevantYuji has 70 years of experience with highest potential in the verse (Sukuna's genes) plus more potential from Sukuna himself indwelling him plus even more shit when he hate his fetus siblings and gained death painting body keeping him at his peak body for decades.Yuji easily has the best domain and no diffs everyone from Gojo, Yuta, Dabura.
>>288087997>Killed Choso>Killed GojoHey, you can't blame Megumi for this. Yuji already tried to take the blame for Sukuna's massacre in Shibuya and had to be talked out of that mindset. There's no way he'd blame Megumi for things Sukuna does in his body.
>>288068942>>288069523As a genuine question why would it have been important to explore who Jin and Kaori were before? Especially Kaori she was dead before Kejaku brain jacked her what exactly would we have gained by her backstory or put another way what exactly is bad about "she was an unimportant woman who died" might as well ask who the the little kid Medusa passed in SE was. It's not important
>>288089705Just throw a toilet to them lmao
>>288086656So that's why I find Shoko and Yuka so hot... It all makes sense now.
>>288088149Remind me. Did he have a bigger pool than Sukuna or not?
>>288090153Nope. Sukuna had the biggest pool, but Yuta had the second biggest. The difference is that Sukuna also had incredible efficiency in using Cursed Techniques, while Yuta could refresh his own supply with the power bank he calls Rika.
>>288089762Twin? He's also 900+ years old? And he just rolls over and dies at the start of the series? Never trains yuji?!
>>288090153dependsJJK Yuta? no, he's about half of Sukuna's at best.Modulo Yuta with Modulo Rika? absolutelyrewriting trillions of souls in the future is several order of magnitude higher of what Kenjaku tried to accomplish in JJK
>>288090274Holy shit he really is a gary stu
>>288068942How is it interesting? It's just some background detail.
>>288087103>what killed Megumi's popularityThis is only the case in the west, and even here I suspect he's more popular than it appears, it's just that the haters are very loud about it.
>>288068628Gege is a hack, modulo confirmed it. I dunno how this is not a settled matter, bro. JJK's single and only saving grace are the fights, anything else is some variation of trash.
>>288087576Nope, but if you're ok with having sex with these cutting edge trannies, then it makes you even gayer to have sex with an actual femboy
>>288090716than*
>>288090417I suspect that was the case too. Didn't they like his episodes for season 3? That sure isn't the sign of someone they claim is universally hated
>>288088149Overrated
lol
Is this why potentialman was so weak? Because Gojo was helicopter-parenting?
>>288090417Who really knows, it's not like we have a new popularity poll to even determine he still has fans. Gege seems to be hell bent on destroying all of Megumi's popularity by making him more of total loser than he already does. And mind you, fans already have a very low opinion of megumi because of Shinjuku completely sabotaging his goodwill as a character.
>>288090164>efficiencyThat was when Yuta was 17. You learn refiment and efficiency. He could summon Rika multiple times at day in Shinjiku, so his timer is becoming more pointless.
>>288068628>Name is gaygay>Writes a story with two gays having a babyMakes sense to me.
>>288093642.It's just really hard to take him seriously as a character after everythingBecause throughout JJK, he has a rather one note personality and said personality is that he's an emo who doesn't want to have fun. Except, the catch to him is that he's also a lazy fuck. He's also an asshole too towards most people, even to Yuji. So fans are naturally hyped when the story kept on hyping him as having the potential to surpass Gojo, aka the most powerful sorcerer. Anyone in their right minds would want to see Megumi getting strongerInstead, his depression took center stage about a character nobody knew and all of his development went to the trash. His refusal to help also killed a lot of positivity regarding him. So in the end, he was just a weak, boring, and a useless character. The most negative things you can put into a character, let alone a deuteragonist.
>>288087103How is Yuka a jobber? She's NEVER hyped up as super strong. She's a girl dying of cancer nerfed by her own clan doing her best. Aki too is NEVER hyped up as super strong either. Jobber would be someone hyped as strong losing most of his fights aka Kashimo.
It's been 5 years since Megumi got to do something in the series. Yes The start of Culling Games was 5 years ago to this date
>>288087103I haven't read CSM to comment on Aki, but Yuka design is super cool (not just basic black), and she has a cool actitude in face of a shitty situation, she's also far from a jobber. The other people correct you about the meaning of that, but also within Modulo storyline she's successful. Modulo was about diplomacy; the reason why there's no fucking war with aliens was Yuka.First, she persuaded Cross, who had the decisive ten votes to break the tie between conflict and coexistence to vote for coexistence, and later because she took up the duel with Dabura, when no one did to avoid an open war over the cursed spirits matter. Even if she has a fiery temper, she inherited a lot of her grandfather's self-sacrifice, unconditional love, and empathy, that's why she pulled this off while other characters didn't. She really takes after Yuta's best traits. Modulo, I repeat, isn't about fights. Actually, it's about the opposite of violence. Yuka managing to de-escalate that makes her actually accomplished.
>>288093935Also I forgot that Yuka was also the first one to include Maru when he was foisted on her and Tsurugi. Both 'left him behind' but Yuka returned for him, fed him, and established a conversation with him for the first time. Maru's relationship with Tsurugi came later, but Yuka was the first one to reach out.
I think the real problem about how this fandom perceives Megumi is that they don't expect him to be strong, they expect him to be the number one sorcerer. They expect nothing but Megumi to achieve everything the Jujutsu power system could offer.
>>288093642People made fun of him before Shinjuku too, and yet, he was in the top 3 in the last popularity poll.
>>288087997He is Megumi's wife.
>>288093991>People made fun of him before Shinjuku too,Eh, Megumi slander back then was just mahoraga and that was far by the least humiliating of his slander. Shinjuku just made everything worse for him.
>>288093642i commend Japan though for still liking him. Everything about Megumi just sucks that it's hard not to hate or make fun of him.
Why did people say Tsurugi is like Megumi? He's more like Toji/Maki without the huge abuse heaped on him.>wants to prove himself to be strong to clan so he wouldn't be looked down>protective older brothe vibe (not as Megumi who was tsundere about it but like Maki to Mai)>MEGA HARD WORKER, he busts his ass training>he's not really an asshole just a little stoic but he's a nice guy who can communicate and clears up shit fast with maru >he can be temperamental too, while megumi was more of a colder type
>>288094088I think it's because of design, but yeah Tsurugi works hard vs being perceived as a genius. It's unfortunate that he gets slandered by association of Megumi just because he's a male teenage Zenin. It shows just how deep Megumi agenda goes that Tsurugi gets a flak because he kinda looks like him even if he's basically what people would have enjoyed in any character: a hard worker who is trying to prove himself despite his weakness, who puts effort in his friendships and his role as older brother but can commit mistakes.
>>288094138Megumi is just cursed, everything he does makes him look pathetic but when done by other characters, people thought it was justified and thought they look good
Can I say something unpopular? I think my problem with Megumi is that his relationship with Yuji doesn't feel like friendship. It feels like some coercive type of responsibility on both sides. Megumi felt like he needed to take responsability on Yuji, and later Yuji felt something like that toward Megumi after Shibuya. Looking at the same sex other 'duos' Gege made: Geto and Gojo, and Maru and Tsurugi, Yuji and Megumi friendship looks far more utilitarian despite having more focus and more pages to develop it. That's just my opinion.
Megumi just became the new Sakura of the new age and believe me, that's the worst reputation a character could get.
>>288094138>It shows just how deep Megumi agenda goesHow deep are we talking about now? Megumi has been shitted on and butt fucked to no end just for existing and not existing. I think he quickly escalated to be the most hated character in JJK.
>>288094256Yuji/Megumi friendship got fucked by splitting them up after their 1st mission together (even if Yuji's "death" was what made JJK popular at first) and Gege speedrunning Yuji eating 11 fingers in Shibuya cucking us out of more missions.
>>288094420Seriously the way Gege wasted the new Naruto was so dumb. You can tell he was rushing to go back to his original idea
>>288094293I give it to Gege, he really made a character so fucking hated that not even the most dedicated of JJK fans even like him. Megumi is truly a one of kind character.
>>288087103Modulo is about letting go the bitterness in your heart, and negativity to focus on love, bonds and harmony. So to speak. The destruction of the cycle of curses is like a tangible conclusion of all these characters bonding together through their loss.Yuka who began a little bitter and sour chose kindness, empathy and forgiveness, which directly and indirectly saved the world. Not every show of strength is on fist or battles, it's on decesive choices and actions. Yuka's monologue about wanting to be Tsurugi's little sister again even if he sucked as big brother and how she crawled herself to fight to avoid a war and protect others showed her as a courageous and noble young lady, possibly the bravest character in JJK. She wanted to live (very important distinction), but she was willing to die for the sake of others. That shows her indomitable spirit even in a fragile body.Through her empathy, wit and actions, she is the first to reach out Maru and Cross, she also reaches out Dabura (through Mahoraga), making her absolutely pivotal in the theme of the story that's about coexistence. Tsurugi and the others are no less important, but she's not someone who 'failed' at her role, even if she has personal failures.Megumi, I think, is perceived as someone who 'failed' as his role of deuterogist. I don't hate him, or love him. It's my impression.
>>288094293Megumi is just so terrible as a character that I honestly think Sakura haters would even say Sakura wasn't that bad when compared to Megumi.
>>288094498>Megumi is truly a one of kind character.It's all thanks to this panel, you can see the general opinion shifting when this dropped
>>288094387Believe me. Megumi agenda is pure hell that if you have him as your favorite character. People would harass you in DMs megumi became so fucking hated that even saying something positive about him is enough to make entire groups of people mad.
>>288094594Honestly, Gege should have asspulled some Sukuna soul control grip on Megumi and his reputation would have been salvaged.
>>288094498It just goes to show how people can be shallow in liking characters because Megumi only places so high in polls because he has a pretty boy face. That's really it.Because as far as his writing goes, it's utterly pure shit.
>>288094498I think he's even more hated than other universally hated characters like Sakura and Gabi.
>>288094649That's really fucking stupid.
>>288094616Sorry meant to answer you>>288094725
Hana is more bashed than Megumi, and includes Megumifags.
>>288094616>>288094387A harmless picture like this still had people hating on Megumi for not joining on the water gun fight and called him a bum. His reputation is fucking cooked if a gacha image of a beach still had fans shitting on him.
Agenda shit is the worst thing that could happen to the fandom. I wonder WHY JJK caught that shit.
And I thought being a Dekufag for years had me going through the most humiliating stuff to see for my favorite character, I can't imagine what it's like being a Megumifag nowadays
>>288094725It's stupid but it's very much true. Agenda shit is so holed into people's brains that they can't form their opinion about Megumi because they had to follow the hivemind calling him a bum, worst deuteragonist, potential man, fraud etc.
>>288094088He has lines that are one-to-one Megumi's.He's a mix of Megumi and Maki.
>>288087103If Megumi had the guts and resolve Yuka demonstrated, he wouldn't have detractors. Yuka's got restricted by her clan, and her body was already terminal when we saw her in Modulo. She tries very hard and refuses to give up. Plus it helps that conflict is actually what you need to avoid in Modulo, making her role to push toward coexistence actually essential.Aki's got one of the best stories in CSM. Crazy to compare them. His writing is tight as hell.
>>288094868Deku has a more positive reception nowadays since the anime made his journey better than what Hori did. There's nothing MAPPA could fix for Megumi though.
>>288094498I like Megumi. It's not difficult to do so when you don't care about powerscaling.
>>288094911>He has lines that are one-to-one Megumi's.Actually here. He is saying Yuji's line. There are shotouts among the three generational duos, but their relationship is kinda different because the characters are different. Tsurugi puts a lot of effort into understanding and communicating with Maru, it never feels like a one-sided relationship, mostly carried by one of them. They have falls out, and immediately recoincilations and it's Tsurugi the one who takes the steps to patch that up. Megumi I think is more passive.
>>288094849Massive popularity and series length meant retard latched onto it.The spreading of leaks through twitter did not help either, it incentivized interaction and making "jokes" using half-visible mistranslated panels, bandwagoning on popular shit, etc.
>>288094999The tiger arc was the same>what if someone you save hurts othersdilemma Megumi brought up during Fearsome Womb (god I hate that arc name).
>>288094942>likes deku>spergs over megumilmfao. Is there anything more that needs to be said about "the agenda" people
>>288094931nta but I can explain. Megumi's depression ended up being the actual main focus but the one fans wanted was his potential. However, if you do look at Megumi's arc in a special lens. his depression was there and that he never wanted to be some realized potential sorcerer. Except the manga never clearly showed Megumi having that. Megumi for the most part is a very serious character and so it was natural to see him that he was on the road to getting rid of his bum mindset and realize his potential. This is what people wanted from Megumi, him not holding back anymore. Now we go onto the biggest problem. When Tsumiki came into picture and suddenly became such a catalyst that all of a sudden we're supposed to empathize with Megumi for losing his sister through his own body killing her. On paper, it makes total sense. On paper that is but the truth is that not a single soul knows about Tsumiki enough to feel bad for her. She just came and went. And because she died. Instead of getting angry and fighting against Sukuna. Megumi just gave up and that's literally the end of his character. No redemption or fighting back. He just waited for someone to finally get him without doing shit. No complete Shadow Garden or even a new move. Megumi's depression arc failed hard because there was no focus, and because Megumi also stopped being a character. That also means any development he had of being a fighter failed completely as he was still a very incomplete sorcerer. Put these two together and you got a really fucked up character who served no purpose while also making him very hated.
>>288095027That's true but it's about the backdrop of Tsurugi mistrusting Maru because he's an alien, and the real actual purpose was to get them to communicate to clarify their misunderstanding (he thought Cross was Maru). If you re-read, the actual conclusion was about them communicating with each other to avoid that scenario which is not about ideals or that like in JJK. Shotouts are reframed to a completely different dynamic. They aren't framing each other as savior or as someone who is saved by them (like Megumi and Yuji did) but as two equals reaching out to become friends.
>>288094498i don't think Megumi is the most hated or whatever I think he became the literal definition of "Love or Hate" type of character. There's no middle ground to him. It's either you really like him because you see someone who doesn't want to be the typical prodigy sasuke clone and just wanted to be normal but or you hate because he's so infuriatingly useless because he chose to never be some GOAT or a Peak character.
Maru is a lot crazier than Yuji is. He's also got an OP technique from the get go, while Tsurugi is the hardwork punch guy. The surface traits of Yuji ("genki and social") and Megumi ("stoic and serious") are on Maru and Tsurugi, but their relationship is also more like Geto and Gojo (two friends working together who had a fall out) but overcame their hurdles and valued their bonds more.
>>288095091I see a lot of people talking about this depression and Tsumiki screentime problem, but I think they're really misreading thing.Megumi does not have depression. He is obsessed with his sister and has a bit of a martyr complex (partially due to her influence) combined with the massive guilt he has over Tsumiki's situation.Tsumiki is in a coma when the series starts, has been for years, but it's clearly communicated how focused Megumi is on her and her memory and ideals. He is clinging to his only family with teeth and nails, this is not normal and the reader isn't meant to feel the same thing, just understand that this is what he feels.Tsumiki's death isn't the death of a character, it's the loss of hope for someone who's been clinging onto hope that their brain dead family can still recover. Except even worse, because he was falsely told that she recovered, and then her memory got desecrated by someone playing dress-up with her body.
>>288090274You forgot the part where it was done thanks to cursed energy he had been accumulating into the ring for literally years so even Modulo he still has the same capacity.
>>288095091>On paper that is but the truth is that not a single soul knows about Tsumiki enough to feel bad for her.It's kinda bad Rika had more of a characterization than Tsumiki and she was dead before even the prequel began.
My problem with Megumi is that we don't really know how he feels about other people. Like I don't know if he even truly cares about Yuji, or Nobara, or Gojo. He sure doesn't look like he was sad about Gojo dying because of him, no siree They seemed more like obligations rather than people Megumi wanted to protect which makes a lot of problems when it came to saving him
>>288095229That's not true, Rika's only meaningful characterization is in volume bonuses.
I can say one sentence which basically sums up Megumi's reason for being so hatedHe's not even treated like a real character. There, I said, dude barely has the requisites of even being one.
>>288095185It is depression, grieving so long, unable to move on your loved one is a form of depression.
>>288095229>>288095268Rika had a characterization because she was present as a cursed spirit. I think she's one of the few female characters with a full storyarc.
>>288088149>UnfathomableGET OUT OF MY HEAD SANDRO
The Tsumiki and Rika comparisons are funny because Megumi's and Yuta's actual arc is similar (it's about coming to terms with grief and loss, and forgive yourself for it). I wonder if Gege had someone they cherished (a girl cousin or close female friend) who died, because he does portray the raw emotions that this caused them.
I'm not even sure how you can fuck up someone like Megumi this badly unless an author severely hates them. because even I could write Megumi better and I had shit story telling skills
>>288094649Anyway, in the story he gives Megumi a 1st person POV of killing his sister and takes a curse-bath to do this.
>>288095396I think it's more like Gege split things from Yuta's arc in Yuji and Megumi.
>>288095411I reckon even an assblassted Megumi hater could write him better than what Gege did. It's just so weird to see him end up being so nothing
So why does Megumi soul still hangs around? I thought the vessels souls are auto repressed even unconsciously. Angel seems to be the only one who CAN choose to avoid it. Choso awoke without the vessel soul.
Did a bunch of gege’s dicksucker hijacked the thread into their personal playground?
>>288095643I don't think all the megumi complaining is them sucking Gege's writing skills.
>>288095678Fake complains by idiots that missed the point completely >hur dur u disliked megumeme because le depression>NO U disliked megumeme because he didn’t become the very best like no one ever was>modulo is le good u don’t understandCertain comments makes me wish to bash someone’s skull to death
>>288095643Seems like your terminal case of seething is what started all this retreading of what, the past 2 years of bitching?
>>288096041More like a terminal case of shit writting and “everyone who defends gege should be publically executed for crimes against human intelligence “
>>288090614based and canon
>>288096071This is another false flag. The haters have logical complaints. They aren't completely brain broken like this.
>>288094438Gege not liking Yuji, Megumi, and Nobara really did a lot more harm to the series because they are far by the worst "main" trio of Shonen. Not helping that Nobara was in a coma for the entire second half and the less said about Megumi the better
>>288098636It makes me so glad Yuji ended up being so likable because JJK's legacy would be so awkward if it's so popular and yet everyone hates the main trio
>>288098680I could only think of Durarara that got away with it being popular (for the time it was airing anyway) but very few like the main three being Mikado, Anri, and Kida. Everyone is too crazy about Shizuo and Izaya
>>288098636Thats a weird headcanon.
What did Gege mean by thisThis made my non-existent pussy wet. Imagine when they animate it.
>>288098752Except Durarara has always been an ensemble cast with no real MC or main trio. JJK isn't. We're supposed to follow Yuji's story but he never felt like he's the MC until the very end
Gege would have an aneurysm if you give him a Bleach size cast. He's already bad at handling 10 characters without screawing up badly. Imagine literal hundreds
>>288079800To think all that was needed was someone other than Gege drawing Yuka for most of her appearances.
>>288099329It might even be as bad as if Kubo had to do it.
>>288099329Gege would die if you even give him Naruto size of it's cast. He'll die at the Konoha residents alone
>>288099152He's the central piece of every arc. Has the deepest attachment to the main villains and fights and kills them too. Yuji scenes are all great. I don't know how you missed it.
I just read all of this recently. Is the story supposed to feel weird after shibuya or is it just me? It felt like a whole bunch of shit was going to emerge afterwards and generally expand the setting, clan politics, etc. but it's all distilled into the culling games -> Sukuna then it ends. I guess Maki's genocide is in their somewhere, but I felt totally underwhelmed about the stuff happening
>>288099780>Is the story supposed to feel weird after shibuya or is it just me?Because Gege ditched his editor and went back to his original pitch of Sorcerer Fortnite. Of course it doesn't match with what came before. Even Cursed Spirits became irrelevant after ALL of the Disaster Curses got killed at Shibuya.
>>288099854>Because Gege ditched his editorI still haven't seen a source for this.
>>288099780The term is fast paced.
>>288099955Its crazy how often that anon makes up a headcanon and then his own headcanon makes him mad. lol
