>unemployed but trains his body every day to make use of his free time.>sets himself to do a good action per day to improve his social life.>always tries to be extroverted and jester maxing with people.>all this and he is only 18 years oldHow am I supposed to self-insert into a Chad like this? He's literally on the right path at such a young age that it's insane to think he's a loser in any way.
>>288099205Who told you that he was a bad guy?
>>288099205He's pretty annoying nglSomething about him rubs me the wrong way. He might to be extroverted and jestermaxxing with people but he comes across annoying. Other anime characters are can joke and be loud with other characters while being cool but Subaru never made me think he's cool, but only annoyingHe's fine, I guess
>>288099606>Other anime characters are cankek you made a typo. the rest of your post can be disregarded now you stupid faggot.
>>288099620Sure, dude. Won't change the fact that Subaru is the Naruto of Isekai when it comes to being annoying
>>288099657Try going back and making that point before making a simple mistake, idiot.
>>288099687Kek, u mad bro?
>>288099709>u are can mad bro?
>>288099606Not enough aura farming.
>>288099751>raaaggghhh staph mocking my le ebin self-insert it hurts my feefees
>>288099835Isn't the fact that he reminds you of yourself the reason why you hate him?
>>288099657>Naruto of IsekaiNever thought of it that way but it kind of works...Who are the Bleach/One Piece?the MHA
>>288099867No. I'm not into this series and I don't even post in its threads. I'm going to be completely honest with you, but I've never related to Subaru in any way. I just think he's annoying, personality-wise.
>>288099908Well, you are aware that you're annoying personality-wise as well? If you find him annoying that's probably because it's like looking in the mirror for you. You see your own worst qualities in him and get to see how other people see you.
>>288099205>acts like an annoying retard at any given opportunityThat plus the constant perfunctory monologues with empty platitudes get so tiresome
>>288099871>Style over substance Uhhhhh take your pick >When will it ever fucking endSAO
>>288099948>You hate Subaru? It must be because he is literally you and it pisses you off!I don't know how you imbeciles come up with this shit.Nobody saw Jar-Jar binks and thought "I hate him because he is literally me"
>>288099948>Well, you are aware that you're annoying personality-wise as well?No. I'm not. I'm annoyed by him because our demeanor is completely different even. I'm just completely different to the guy as a person. You never made social observation before? At some point, you'll just come to the conclusion that some people really are just not the same as you are.
>>288100034>>288100040Nah, it's because the way you talk about him makes it really obvious that you self insert as him but are angry that he's got the exact same personality flaws as you and acts just as annoying as you do in real life, so he's basically a self insert for you that can't live out the power fantasies you fantasize about. Subaru is like looking into a mirror and getting a reality check that you're not actually the badass warrior you imagine yourself as, you're just a flabby human who most people find annoying and unfuckable.
>>288099205>can't watch it because he's such a whiny little nigger in the anime>can't read it because light novels/web novels are for FAGS >can't manga it because it updates twice a year Terrible IP anyone who likes it should be shot
>>288100121Sure, I might not be badass, but I won't really sperg out and whine over people not staying by my side, especially over people I just met. I mean, I atleast have the integrity to have self-respect as an individual even if I am as powerless as an ant. Its all about personal space, bruh.
>>288099205his story is suppose to be a class clown that turned into a neet and kind of gave up when all his peers left him behind. from the beginning he was described as an athlete. what anime should i watch?
>>288100170Yeah bro me too I'd just start aura farming all over them. No matter what situation you put me in, I'd just hustle like a fucking badass and make my own way. I don't need anyone's help because I'm a strong, badass, independent male.
>>288100170That's actually a funny as fuck response. You'd bail out on them because you don't want to appear vulnerable? That is such a fucking Subaru coded response. He might be right about you being just like Subaru in real life.
>>288099751damn, you destroyed himI am impressed
>>288100250>>288100328Stop sperging out just because your self-insert got called out. Jesus Christ.
>>288100362You're the only one sperging out. Feel free to leave anytime.
>>288100350This one is for us, amirite Subaruchuds
>>288099205
>you're projecting>no you're projecting>stop sperging out>no you're sperging outQuality thread.
>>288100448>He's projecting and spergingHeh ironic
>>288099205I personally like him because I like schizo unreliable narrator mcs and the edgy aus fill my teenage self's tastes.If he was around when I was fourteen I'd be drawing very retarded and shameful fanart of him with dark angel wings, belts, and black tears.
>>288100448Subaru self-inserters really can't back down and accept others' opinion or stance about a character. You know the moment a poster called out Subaru as "whiny" or "annoying" is the moment they all lose their shit.
>>288100468No, you're projecting and sperging.
>Subarufag enraged about a retarded autistic character that was designed to be retarded and autistic to keep the plot moving is being called out for being an annoying autistic retard
>>288100500Yea, you're right sorry.
>>288100121Cool ad hominem bro, come back with an actual argument instead of these petty middle school level insults.People of all ilks dislike Subaru (and re:zero) for various reasons. If you cannot take that to heart maybe you need to revaluate yourself.
>>288100510>>288100554Struck a nerve, I see. I guess I was right on the money, eh? :)
>This is the level Re:Zero fans operate atlmao guess I shouldn't be surprised.
>>288099205Stick to subhuman faggots like Rudeus.
>>288099871>One PieceThat would be Slime Tensei since it BTFO'd everything when it comes to sales
>>288100627Still sperging? I must've really hurt your feefees.
>>288100121TRUTH NUKE.
>>288100040this sounds like something Subaru would post
>>288100742Stop insulting me like that.
>>288100657There's only one sperg ITT and it ain't me
>>288100774How do you feel about pointy elf ears and white hair on women?
>>288100952Rem is better than Emilia. I rest my case.
>>288100979TRVTH NVKE
>want an isekai self-insert for escapism>have to choose between between an ocean of overpowered MCs who curbstomp all of their problems, and the subversive alternative where the MC isnt overpowered but will stay a weakling throughout the story, and has his own personality albeit an annoying one that would have you wonder how people even tolerate him.Is there any middle ground or is it always extremes for both ends.
>>288102579Subaru is already a power fantasy because he has a reality warping time travel super power and unrealistic levels of willpower. Subaru's mental strength exceeds anything a real person could handle by like thousands of times. Watching him somehow handles all of that trauma by itself is a power fantasy. You'd be broken mentally beyond repair from even 1% of the shit he goes through.
>>288102681Maybe you would be. I'd adjust to it quickly, and certainly wouldn't crush out necessitating a maid to give me a pep talk after just a few failures pussy
>>288103154ok buddy
>>288099205>>288099606>>288102579For me, he's flawed in a good, realistic way that makes him feel like an actual person. And he doesn't resemble me at all in terms of character traits.Re zero is head and shoulders above average isekai (but that's a low standard) because of how Subaru carries it on his back some video essays also helped me to see even Subaru at his cringiest as more forgivable
>>288102681Nothing he goes through would particularly bother me, stop being a wimp
>>288102681I dont think those things necessarily make a character a power fantasy, plus its hard to say if Subaru's will power is meant to be a complete positive rather than also a huge flaw.That being said I also disagree that just because a character is from a web novel or has black hair that they're necessarily a self insert either.
>>288099205Wasn't he a hikikomori with no friends in the real world?
>>288103154Heheheh
>>288104184Iirc he was a highschool truant who called himself a hikkineet but in reality didn't actually fit the definition of either as he was still going outside and still doing schoolwork from home.
>>288102681Also you'd think his emotions after some of these rewinds would at least be mixed with relief. There's this trope of characters thinking "is this a nightmare" not wanting to believe terrible things that happen to them and for Subaru it basically IS a dream. Like just thank your lucky stars and get to work preventing it
>>288103154That maid is best girl though.
Doesn't the power come with the side effect of rotting your brain? They pretty much directly say "this power can only be used if you're insane. If you're not insane at the start, it will rearrange until your brain fits" hence why Petelguese started bleeding from his eyes.Every single archbishop and witch aren't right in the head, and the miasma in this season got everybody to kill each other by itself. Miasma is also what Subaru poofs out every time he comes back, right?
>>288103154>>288103481>>288104492pffftttt hahahahaha
>>288099205>gets isekai'd but it's okay because I frequent /fit/>the isekai world is filled with superhumans by real world standards, so even that homeless guy over there can effortlessly kick your ass>you try to learn swordmanship, but you suck at it>you try to learn magic, but you suck at it and then you get magic crippled>you find out that you can copy the OP powers of certain enemies if they die, but it's only a fraction as strong to the point of only being useful once in a when all the planets in the solar system alignSo he's never going to be able to at least defend himself, will he?
>>288105124Subaru's authority of sloth is only that weak because Petelgeuse traumatized him afaik. and if he didn't have any negative emotions associated with it he'd be able to use it effectively. When he goes crazy because of the miasma we see like a tiny portion of how strong he'd be if he actually tried to use that authority for real.
He's a cool dude, but he's also annoyingly autistic at times.
>>288099205I think you were thinking of Konosuba.
Youtube shoved Stay Alive randomly into a playlist for me last week and the song was so good it made me actually consider watching the show.
>>288099205No, the young person who isn't hiding from their peers, isn't doing pointless things to delude themselves they're making good use of their time, and isn't behaving like a clown so people won't take them seriously and see them for how insecure they are is on the right path.
>>288105015>chuckling nervously because he can't believe a guy has enough of a backbone to endurePathetic
>>288105253ablooblooblooblooblooo *fart noises*
>>288105184>When he goes crazy because of the miasma we see like a tiny portion of how strong he'd be if he actually tried to use that authority for realI remember when he well he was using IP when he went nuts. I thought it was funny that he suddenly became proficient with it when using it against his friends but having it only become usable when he loses his mind is a pretty funny requirement
>>288102681No, you wouldn't, you would quite literally get used to it after like 15 deaths or so. After like 30 you'd start killing yourself just to get perfect runs and eventually you would lose all fear of death all together. I'm taking into account that you're a self-admitted pussy, some niggas would start kyssing themselves after like the 5th death.
>>288105377Killing yourself is easy. Not killing yourself is the hard part. You wouldn't be able to go through what he does without killing yourself and then running away like a bitch, guaranteed. Subaru mogs you effortlessly.
>>288105408Did you not read the part where i said killing yourself to get perfect runs, bot?
>>288105184I think theres something else to it rather than just a matter of being traumatized, everytime Subaru uses IP in the wn it mentions that it rips a small part of his soul out, the anime did a disservice cutting out him having a brain aneurysm when he tried to mash it in the tunnel loop since it shows that its not just distaste.
>>288099205>How am I supposed to self-insert into a Chad like this?I'm 45 yrs old and I still self insert as Subaru. I don't know why people have trouble relating with an MC.
>>288105328>mindbrokenAnd you didn't even die for that.
>>288105377You'd also smell like absolute dogshit though.Talk about gaming rbd is a waste of time if everybody is just going to ignore half of what rbd does.
>>288105427That's just Subaru exaggerating.
>>288099620They hated him because he told them the truth
>>288105462He was bleeding from every hole in his face though
>>288105482>no periodOh no, sisters...
>>288105491Drama queen.
>>288102579My issue with Subaru has nothing to do with him being weak or whiny. He's just a shit poorly written character who doesn't act in a way that makes logical sense. His Emilia obsession is genuinely probably the most poorly justified character trait I have ever seen. Also Subaru is probably the best part about Re Zero, it's every other character who's complete and utter dog shit.
>>288105519>His Emilia obsession is genuinely probably the most poorly justified character trait I have ever seen.Something something he's actually the reincarnation of Flugen or something just wait 20 more arcs it'll be explained trust me.
>>288105553Nothing wrong with foreshadowing from the start.
>>288099764>Not enough aura farming.>anon missed the part where Subaru rides a spear of ice up into the sky and then Piccolo Farms on the horn of a legendary beast while taunting it for being a pussy bitch hiding up there
>>288105703People who hate Subaru never got that far into the series so it's a moot point.
My only problems with subaru is his obsession over emilia, which she barely has a personality to justify simping over, and he has that paladin boyscout energy which makes him pretty uninteresting. What's awell-adjusted normie like him with a good body and loving parents making him a loser neet for?
>>288105936He wasn't well adjusted, he stopped going to school because he was a dadcon that kept trying to live up to this idealized form of his dad and it caused a nervous breakdown, and also because he did a crossdressing "prank" on the first day of school that mysteriously ended in a way that nobody bullied him but they didn't want to talk to him either. After a couple months he simply stopped going to school on his own.
>>288106031nvm subaru is a faggot
i remember when this shit first started airing, people were calling him mitsubishi, honda, or toyota
>>288106311He actually is. He gets off on pretending to be a woman.
>>288099205Dude has an infinite time glitch being trained by the best swordsmen/thief/magic users. Whines in bed instead. Look he COULD easily become the strongest of all and prevent all his suffering, but he chooses not too for some reason that is never really explained….
>>288106486Yeah he should've just trained for the 1 week he was there and become a level 9999 venerable demon heaven defying dragon! So true! OP isekai protagonist talent here I go!!!
>>288106405I think the japanese also did this.
>>288106521>ive got nothing so heres a strawman argument!!!Dude has infinite time, with trainers who were masters of every conceivable skill. Keiji Kiriya would be a master of ALL that in short order. Subarus whining, bitching and complaining about having the most ludicrously OP ability is pure faggot behavior AND you know it. Which is why you resorted to the retarded response you gave.
>>288106724Except he doesn't have infinite time because his body resets between each death, so none of the physical training he does matters. He could've trained for like 1 week max. You're not going to become superhuman by training for 1 week. The threats he faces would require decades of training.
>>288105377Ok then cut off one of your fingers, do it every week until you have no fingers. Tell us after the experience if you’ve become used to the pain.
>>288106792He's just trolling. He wouldn't even be able to handle someone being mean to him in real life, let alone being tortured to death.
Subaru kinda annoys me but for me it’s just part of the Re:Zero setting: No one in this series speaks like a normal person. It probably has the cringiest dialogue I’ve ever seen.
>>288106813>>288106792Doesn't have to even go that far, tell him to do exercise. Its healthy, it makes you better, but its painful, and so fatasses won't do it. Even people who do exercise find out ways to externally mitigate pain with only a rare few psychos either having a wire crossed where they like the pain (Arnold was like this, he likens doing reps to cumming every time he did it) or through fairly unreasonable force of will powering through it.
>>288106768>his physical body resetsSigh. You clearly never read All you need is kill and have no clue how any actual fighting discipline works. His knowledge does NOT reset. He can train the very highest levels of skill of all disciplines. Over the course of a few cycles (by the time season one ends he's had a HUGE amount of time to build his strength. he can build the physical strength. Hell magic in universe has been shown to be basically entirely mental. Know how its done you can cast it. Yet instead of improving himself with the infinite time Subaru just whines like a bitch.
>>288099205He's an annoying autist, self-insertfag
>>288106792Most of his deaths are either instantaneous or in a state where he is not really conscious. Those are VERY easy to get used to. Optimal place to rinse and repeat is when he has the curse that kills him in his sleep. No pain, no nothing.
>>288106947That wouldn't even work in real life because you'd lack the muscle mass, strength, stamina and muscle memory to fight properly, let alone in a world where people casually break the laws of physics and move at mach fuck. Training to perform a sword swing correctly won't fix the fact that your brain isn't wired to react to someone moving faster than a fighter jet. If it's so easy you can just go ahead and train to become the world champ at boxing. Also Billy Bob rapes your self insert mary sue to death with his huge cock.
>>288106311Kinda, yeah. His mom used to crossdress him as a kid too. He grew up with long hair amd figure skated hence why in s2 he makes a comment about how he used to be known as the Ice Princess.
>>288107044That's extremely gay.
>>288099205>jester maxingI hate zoomers holy shit
>>288107055Subaru is a bit of a bpd attention whore on the inside. Iirc he used to be a little popular with girls too until he made jumping from swing sets too popular, his class got involved in a fight between other classes over using them, eventually got his class banned from using the swings, and the girls never forgave him for that.The author writes a lot.
>>288107163Heh, women, amirite?
>>288099606Yeah the whole "clown persona" was pretty obnoxious to watch. He's trying too hard that it comes off as cringe instead of endearing.
>>288107163Last thing but something else thats funny, his first crush was his kindergarten school teacher. Subaru wrote a 50 page love letter that apparently sounded like Echidna's speech from s2 and there had to be a parent meeting over it.
>>288106995Lmao, muscle memory IS memory. Its stored in your nervous system dumbass. And he 100% does mot lose his muscle memory as shown by him improving his cutting skills radically across multiple “lifes” if he can improve his ability to cut vegetables, he can improve his ability to cut people. And to build the muscle mass really only takes a few months of focused effort as he is 18.>he cannot train to catch people moving faster than a fighter jetHe can literally learn magic to slow them down/speed him up. And has willing magic teachers all over the place. Yet he doesnt. And each “life” may be a week or two, but hes gone through dozens of them and many months/years. More than enough time to build the body to match the mind.But you wouldnt like him if he did that, because you couldnt self project your whiny faggot ass onto him if he actually used the tools he was given instead of bitching about them.
>>288107231>>288106995Oh and btw, its been proven that muscle memory is stored in your brain JUST like memory. His memory transfer, so to does his muscle memory.https://www.cell.com/neuron/fulltext/S0896-6273(22)00544-X
>>288107231>>288107266lmao how much of a retard do you have to be to think that muscle memory is stored in muscles? I wasn't going to say this before because you might've just been trolling but are you genuinely 14 or something? And no, his swordsmanship or magic skills don't improve between lives even when he tries, it just doesn't work like that.
>>288107266Like buddy, it's cool that your mary sue self insert can defeat God in 1 week but real people aren't like that. If you want power fantasy slop you're free to read any of the 10 trillion cultivation novels.
Doesn't Al make a point about how Japanese people might be inherently different in strength from the isekai world?
>>288107231>>288107266And instead of talking about how much of a badass warrior with unbreakable willpower you'd be if you were reincarnated, you can just do some exercise in real life instead maybe? But that's probably already too hard for you so just accept you can't beat Mike Tyson in a fist fight.
How do I get into Re:Zero? Isnt it originally a visual novel?
>>288107552Watch the anime. It's better than the novel.
>>288107552It was originally a web novel. Its better to read it.
>>288107552>>288107604The webnovel isn't even canon.
>>288107604Been meaning to read the ln for a while but concerned that it'll go the index route and be another milked never ending story. Does re:zero have a plan for it's arcs or does it have a "plan" like one piece?
>>288107706We're on arc 10 out of 13. It should theoretically be ending soon.
>>288100650>Stick to superior isekaijinn like Rudeus.Will do. He actually PLAPS his white haired elves and blue haired loli demons sometimes at the same time.Subaru WISHES he could have his Blue demon Loli and White Haired elf at the same time like CHADeusEmilia a shit, Rem deserves to be the only love interest.
>>288099606>Something about him rubs me the wrong way.For me it's his annoying ass face and hair.he looks like a fag and his shits all retarded.
>>288099751Lol, you got him. I didn't think you'd pull it off.
>>288106538This shit still gives me a mighty chuckle.
>>288099205why did Honda save Ram first? is this cucking?i love Emilia btw,
>>288099205subaru is a complete normalfag lmao. It's a lie he's some antisocial neet
>>288100040He's also completely different from me, but I still don't hate him. I might hate him in real life, but since he doesn't interact with me, I don't care.Also, he's completely self-aware about being annoying at times. But on the flipside, he's also aware that he's the number 1 mood breaker in any situation, using that to boost morale at times by not letting others fall into depressive episodes.
Why is there no rezero visual novel? It's perfect for it
>>288099205For me, it's the voice actor. In fact, I don't particularly enjoy any of the voice actors in this show, except perhaps Ram. I feel like most of the cast is miscast.
>>288099205It actually caught me by surprise. In the first two arcs, he seems a little dumb but entirely socially normal. He only spergs out really hard in the third arc, which came so suddenly it caught me off-guard. Like I wasn't aware he was that autistic before.
>>288105209kino
>>288099205Re:zero is the worst Isekai ever made. Even slop smartphone is better.
>>288104538of course. She's what Subaru needed, but I'm not sure if that's what he deserved
>>288099205I'm rewatching it too and his breakdown about being a useless person who was doing nothing with his life hit me pretty hard, since I definitely wasted a significant chunk of my life that way after I first watched it in 2016. In the context of the narrative he's just a slightly misadjusted high schooler who still has his entire life ahead of him, but there's was no telling how long it would go on for. The themes of his character are solid without being either too pretentious or preachy. People hate him because he reminds them of themselves, or most charitably to them, they can't get over his "jestermaxxing" antics that also make perfect sense.
>>288111057That's diddy tensei and slime
>>288102681That isn't a power fantasy, it's just the main conceit of the story you have to suspend your disbelief for. In my opinion you always get one of these things for free in fantastical writing. Subaru has an unrealistic power, yes, but as in all these stories it's all about the execution of everything around it.
>>288107322Youre the tard who thinks muscle memory is not memory and does not transfer. And again its proven TO transfer. Both his memory and muscle memory. See his ability to dice vegetables transferring.What difference is there between dicing vegetables and people?>>288107355>mary sueYou really have no idea what that means do you?>>288107420>look my hero is a faggot>so why arent you so great at life?How are you this stupid? Those arent related at all (I dont have an infinite time glitch, Subaru DOES).
>>288102579Grimgar has some nice progression.Familiar of Zero is a classic.
>>288099205Subaru is a hard working man who deserves his harem. He’s truly a great protagonist.
>>288113564>Shield taking off his boots and putting his bare dogs inches from the picnic food.What the actual fuck.
>>288110411There is, The Prophecy of the Throne, though its non canon.Though the nun girl is apparently really popular in Japan, so much so that's in the latest chapters of the LN she's now canon and is a contender for the throne
>>288100495What is this projection?
>>288114305Stop sperging like Subaru.
>>288106486>Dude has an infinite time glitchYou retards always forget the context behind this. He has literally no control over it and it's not up to him to abuse. If Satella wanted to put a checkpoint that places him in infinite rape hell, there's nothing Subaru can do but take it up the ass.
>>288107231>He can literally learn magic to slow them down/speed him up. If you'd actually read/watched the series, you'd know Authorities trump magic pretty much every time. He'd get raped in a fight with any of the major villains.
>>288111057Not even close.
>>288114358I literally only came into this thread and I'm immediately met with you acting like a whiny bitch because Subaru isn't some unrealistic ubermensch like 99999999% of isekai protags. There doesn't need to be any other sperging going on because you're doing enough of it to fill a whole thread, you stupid whore.
>>288114462What I just said.
>>288100448On par with the series
>>288106538Who's Louis Crawford supposed to be?
Why doesn't Subaru just tell Emilia "Emilia, you need to decide whether to be my girlfriend or not. You can't string me along forever. Decide. Now." That's what I would say in this situation.
>>288114516Kenja no Mago protagonist, Shin Wolford.
>>288114538Rem is still in a coma and iirc the throne candidates aren't allowed to start any relationships during the campaigning.
>>288107213Did the teacher turn him down or did she date him?
>>288114576Never heard of him.
I watched the 3rd episode since reddit is apparently having a blast and i was so fucking bored so it got me curious. I thought maybe after 3 seasons he matured a bit. Nope still an annoying yapping kid
>>288115051>plebbit browserOpinion discarded.
Good lord.. This board really went to the dogs once thirdoids got internet access.
>>288111470>diddy tenseitwitter
I never thought he was that bad either
