Link: https://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2454772/Notable Roles:1. Super Dimension Century Orguss 02 - Toria2. Case Closed/Detective Conan - Ran Mouri3. Marmalade Boy anime - Meiko Akizuki4. Sophia Forrester - Last Exile5. Sengoku Musou/Samurai Warriors (mentioned here because it has an anime version) - Okuni and Nene
I never watched those
Man. This is the second time a major Conan VA passed away. First was Kogoro's
pretty sure she substituted for nami at times as well. 61 is still terribly young, rest in peace.
>>288107270It does make you worry for the One Piece cast itself. Detective Conan is also just as long and I don't even see Conan's VA making it to the finish line
>>288107206A childhood fave, it's going to be rough
Her roles.
>>288107206rip
>>288107206>Notable RolesArachnemon's VA in Digimon 02 also.giga F
damn it's the voice of Ayane DoA as wellRIP
>>288107470More like in general.
>>288107504Oh my bad, she voiced her in GG? Damn.
>>288107252Didn't the first Kogoro VA quit?
>>288107206She voiced Ayane from Dead or AliveRIP
>>288107513And Survive too.
>>288107252Kogoro's first VA retire. Ran's VA is the very first one from the major cast to pass away
>>288107532Man, this sucks.
>>288107206Ran...
>>288107206>>288107444She was Meiko from Marmalade Boy. I liked her in that role. Too bad, the good ones are dying and the new ones are wannabe idols.
Literally who
>>288107206This is a sad day for Conan fans. Ran is basically their childhood crush
Haibara is overratedRan is better
Naoko Matsui (Sonoko Suzuki in Case Closed/Detective Conan) commenting on Yamazaki's death:https://x.com/42kg/status/2055123453976699346
>>288107495Ayane is for rape
>>288107434was she still voicing the character?
>>288107206RIP
>>288107434Can't remember how many times I fapped to her since childhood. Also watched her get railed in Sailor Moon and the 7 Balls. Hmm, hmm, Certified hood classic.
>>288107206>Wakana YamazakiI just started Star Ocean and liked Ilia's voice, damn.
>>288107814Yes till February and actually did the recent Conan movie as well. Also she did Ayane for Ninja Gaiden 4 too.
>>28810720661 is too young to die
Who voices her now?
>>288107444>Arukenimonbros...
>>288107941I will bet it's pnemonia or bad colds. It really seems it affecting a lot old people and it's getting much worse.
Goodbye Ayane-chan. 61 is too cruel, nobody should have to die at such an age.
>>288107444>Arukenimon
>>288107345>>288107434It's going to be worse when it's going to happen to Goku or Luffy's VAs. They're way older than Ran's VA
>>288107444Fwho's that with the 2hu hat?
Damn, that's only a couple years older than Megumi.
>>288107780This shit made me cry, and I only got into Conan a year ago.
>>288108040Goku's OG VA dying will be sad and tragic day since thousands of people around the world grew up with her voice , however I don't think the series as a whole will be affected. Dragon Ball has had multiple ending points now. It's essentially complete considering the original author died. Everything after is just a fanfiction. Goku's VA doesn't need to feel indebted to what comes next. She's already done enough. Luffy's VA will be a way bigger loss for the series because it hasn't fucking finished yet. We are in the home stretch now but she dies before we reach the finale; the next VA for luffy will have big shoes to fill in. If it's bad VA, you are going to here people complaining about the shift for years to come.
>>288108455>Goku's OG VA dying will be sad and tragic daydon't remind me man fuck
>>288108455>Luffy's VA will be a way bigger loss for the series because it hasn't fucking finished yet. We are in the home stretch now but she dies before we reach the finale; the next VA for luffy will have big shoes to fill in. If it's bad VA, you are going to here people complaining about the shift for years to come.I think Luffy's VA has been searching for someone to take her place because the WIT adaptation has her admitting she didn't want to keep voicing Luffy for the remake
>>288107206Rest in peace.
Akemi Okamura will take her role, after already replacing her when she got ill.
Speaking of One PieceNami's VA is now Ran's permanent VA as she was the one who replaced Wakana during her last few months
>>288108614I haven't watched the show in a while, but she really does a great impression.https://x.com/CNP___boxoffice/status/2032757926197342522
>>288107206Really unfortunate. Rest in peace.She was Nojiko in One Piece. Nami's VA has been stepping in as Ran's voice recently, does that mean she'll be the permanent Ran now?
>>288108648She pretty much is. Quite a fitting book end if you ask me.
The funny thing is that. Shinichi is voiced by Usopp's VA so since Ran gets Nami, The two are pretty much stuck together like they did in One Piece
>>288108614>>288108626She's gonna carry that weight
>>288108670Shinichi is UsoppKogoro is KyrosAi is Rebecca Mitsuhiko is ChopperHonestly, there's a lot of One Piece VAs so for Nami's VA. It's just her typical workplace
>>288107206Man, 61? That's so young. I get it for the manga creators, but the VAs?
>>288107249>he didn't watch Last Exilesomeone give this anon a bottle of Garlic Sauce.
>>288108864Probably some undisclosed illness or health issue that led to her death. She went on hiatus months ago for treatment.
>>288107206Fuck my life. Conan won't feel the same without her.May she rest in peace.
>>288108455None of the strawhat VAs have died, right? Would be shitty if none of them could make it before the manga ends.
>>288109471Franky's VA was replaced because he cant do the role anymore. He's become emaciated, i dont think he'll be around much longer..
>>288109471Jimbei's VA died.
>>288109471Franky got replaced. Jibei's first VA died but Jinbei didn't become a strawhat yet at the time.
Oh fuck, Monkey's wife.
>>288108455It would be very shitty if Mayumi Tanaka kicked the bucket before Oda even finishes the manga. That's basically her entire life.
>>288107206What a cutie, passed away so young for a Japanese person. Whatever this illness was must've been rough.
Whoever is replacing her has big shoes to fill. Conan may not be as popular overseas but Ran is one of Japanese's sweethearts alongside Haibara
>>288109542somebody said this in the other threadRan is basically if Misty stayed in Pokemon for 30 years and was never replaced once. That's Ran
>>288109523She's the oldest among her current cast, I believ
>>288109542Nami's VA is also just as old but she is known to the public so it's not as bad.Had it been a newbie VA, oh dear
>>288107434Best faps of my childhood :(
>>288109622Brook and the current jinbei are older but yeah, it's going to be a miracle if her VA even gets to finish elbaf
>>288107444>>288107495>AyaneTitty ninja...
>>288108009Around 70 is fine, right before you start falling headlong and shitting yourself
>>288107434did you know ram is the most favorite fem character in china?
>>2881074442nd row, 5th oneIs it from Dragon Ball?
>>288109471I think the voices of Brogy and Dorry have died or one of them at least. If I'm not mistaken they got new voice actors to play the giants.
>>288107206>voiced Ayane from DOA/Ninja GaidenWhat the fuck? I was just playing Ninja Gaiden 4 a few months ago, and she voiced Ayane's character in that game. RIP.
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>>288107206God, that's fucked. RIP.
Is it time to catch up on Conan...?
>>288107444Despite her small roles, she got a lot of veteran VAs paying their respects for her. She truly is one of a kind
>>288107206nenebros...
>>288110363>small rolesRan is one of the biggest roles out there. It's not quite Doraemon level, but pretty close for anyone under the age of 40.
https://x.com/conan_jouhou/status/2055132277286588732?s=20Wakana Yamasaki's last recording episode is called "The Disappeared Lover of Koiyo Bridge"This is her last recording line>Conan: Ran-nee chan. Let's go home>Ran: Yeah. Let's go back It's really sweet. Rip
>>288110392Fuck. That hits hard. At least her last line is nice
>>288107206Misread this as Yukana and nearly had a heart attack.Still sad though. F
>>288107206Orguss 02 was one of my favorite 90s OVAsRIP
>>288110363Ran is basically similar to Asuka or Rei in terms of iconic anime girls for Japan. It's a really big role
>>288107206>Meanwhile my awful grandparents are still alive in their 80sNot fair
>>288108413Fuckkkk I read it too ouch
>>288107495I can't believe my kunoichifu died
>>288107206>>288107444RIP
>>288107206>2. Case Closed/Detective Conan - Ran MouriRIP, Ran Nee-chan.>61Way too early. What happen?
>>288107206Oh no!Anyway
>>288107206F. I only know her for Ran in Detective Conan and Ayane in Dead or Alive
I really think that the Fukushima incident is getting a lot of diseases spread across Japan. I’m worried about this. Seeing way more deaths of VAs in their 60s than makes me comfortable.
>>288108040>>288108455Luffy's VA dying before OP ends would be really sad. Because she'd be the only VA who wouldn't make it. Nozawa already had her time since DB ended multiple times Junko Takeuchi manage to go through all of Naruto even with the fillersAnd Morita is already on the road to voice the final parts of Bleach so he gets to finish Ichigo's journey Even recent ones like Deku got to finish MHA.
>>288107444I wanna cry
>>288111729There's a very high chance none of the OG vas would make it to One Piece's true ending
>>288107206You were my perfect friend...
>>288110363more like voicing ran is something she did non-stop for almost 30 years that she didn't have many opportunity getting other big roles
>>288110392Reminds me of how Hiromi Tsuru's last words as Bulma before she passed away were wishing everybody to come home after the Tournament of Power
>>288107206>2. Case Closed/Detective Conan - Ran MouriDamn. RIP.
>>288107206EW!!!
>>288107434>she died before case closed was over
>>28811039210th Conan movie was released in April last month. Nips are gonna watch it and sell like no tomorrow this weekend. RIP
Detective Conan isn't as popular outside of Japan but to put it in scale. The reception for Ran's VA passing away is like losing a beloved national treasure because it is really fucking big
>>288112411>10th Conan movieYou do know they're up to the 29th movie now, right?
>>288107206I love Conan, but man, it's gotta end. When you're at the point where your main cast is passing away, it's time to wrap it up.
>>288112452>Detective Conan isn't as popular outside of Japan but to put it in scale.It isn't as popular in the US but it's popular in Europe and Latin America.
>>288112477>You do know they're up to the 29th movie now, right?I meant to say Wakana's last role and movie was release on April 10th. I have my priorities messed up. >>288112452>Detective Conan isn't as popular outside of Japan but to put it in scale.Conan is very popular outside of the US, Wakana's other roles like Ayane from DOA it's very popular.
Rest in peace.>latest Conan film released April 10>Yamazaki passed away on April 18That explains why they waited so long to announce her passing. They were being respectful and waiting until the movie hype had calmed down. The Japanese handle these kind of things well, they give the family their privacy.
>>288112484It was the only thing keeping Shonen Sunday afloat before Frieren became a megahit. If it ends, a lot of people lose their jobs.
>>288107444She played Nami from episodes 70 - 78 of Oe Piece.
>>288112703>It was the only thing keeping Shonen Sunday afloat before Frieren became a megahit.I though Frieren was in SJ, when did Shonen Sunday have a lack of good titles. I didn't think it was that bad.
>>288112775I mean, you can look at their lineup. But no, Frieren is Sunday. Conan was always a big seller. They eventually also got Komi-san and Frieren. It isn't really about lack of good titles, it is about having popular titles. One of the reasons Conan has spin-offs is because Shonen Sunday needed them. https://www.furinkan.com/features/interviews/ichihara.html
>>288112764*One Piece
>>288112837I'm guessing Frieren will replace Conan or add more spinoffs to keep Shonen Sunday alive. They were very lucky to keep to have Frieren there.
>>288107206Teeth
>>288107749See >>288108008
>AC5 Kei Nagaseoof
>>288112660Pretty respectable thing to do. If it were Hollywood they would've used her death to milk more ticket sales, like when Heath Ledger died. I'm sure there's a more modern example...
>>288113020Wasn't Kei Nagase a female favorite character for Ace Combat franchise?
>>288110363She had one super fucking gigantic role she voiced nearly every week for a massive chunk of her career. Those kind of VAs don't really get cast into all that many other major roles because they're so busy with their big one.
>>288108626She sounds really similar, most replacements don't even try to sound that close
>>288113563She's Nami from One Piece
>>288113563Both of them have filled in for each others' roles in the past.
Oh that's why la hermana was unvoiced last time she appearedRIP
>>2881074443 on row 3, who is that
>>288112204The show will outlive all of us.
Nobuyuki Hiyama's comments on Wakana's passing.https://twitter.com/NOBUKIHIYAMAY08/status/2055250443815768459"I received sad news of the passing of Wakana Yamazaki...I first met Wakana-san during the production of the play "A Midsummer Night's Dream"...Since then, we've worked together on various projects and become good friends.Once, at a drinking party, I gave a slightly harsh retort to one of Wakana-san's jokes.I still regret that it was too harsh.My deepest condolences."
>>288112775Togashi is the only SJ author who can get away with giga-hiatuses. Anybody else would've been axed or moved to a different imprint long ago.
>>288114767King of braves...
Her voice is so iconic. It's sad she won't be voicing the Conan finale.RIP
>>288114874How close we are to the Conan finale?
>>288112703Then just pull a Boruto and make a second generation spin-off and hand someone else the keys.
>>288107444>Ayane>Okuni>MystinaNo...
I think it's messed up that she's been voicing Ran for 30 years straight and Detective Conan has not ended at all.
>>288115009>sequel spinoff with haibara as the mc
>>288115365That's just the fate of long running shows and manga. If the manga hasn't ended, so can't the show. I think it's safe to say you must be damn hoping it's not going to happen to One Piece because the VAs have been on that journey since the start
>>288115411Luffy is like 72, isn't she? She doesn't have Nozawa's Uber genes
>>288115427Mayumi Tanaka is 71. For comparison, Nozawa is 89
>>288107206R.I.P. Too young, man.
>>288115411If we take One Piece. The entire cast minus Franky are old as fuck Jinbei is the oldest as he's mid 70sLuffy is 71Brook, Sanji, Zoro, Chopper, and Robin are in their mid 60sUsopp and Nami are late 50sFranky is the youngest but his OG VA was nearing 70 and couldn't voice him any longer
>>288107434I wonder if the author feels bad for dragging the story on for so long that she wasn't be able to see the conclusion.
>>288112452Ran has been a consistent character on the nips brains for 30yrs. She's basically been a foundation for lots of people's childhoods and those who have Conan as a gateway to anime.
>>288107444>Koume-chanI watched her recently...
>>288107444>>288107206At first i was really sad when i saw her age and thought she was going to be someone big i didnt think of it much but holy shit what a weak resume.No offense to anyone who liked her works, you are free to be very sad for it but if any seiyuu HAD to go, im glad it was her and not something like hanakana or something. Still RIP, most people shouldnt die this early nowadays.
>>288115365Lupin III outlived Monkey Punch and all of its original voice actors. It'll probably outlive us too.
>>288115749Dude, you had no idea how popular she is in nipland
>>288115749>weak resume>played one of Japan's most legendary roles nearly every week for the last 30 yearsMost VAs would kill to have that kind of resume. Even Nozawa only played Goku for 10 years.
>>288115749Ran is one of the biggest roles one could dream in Japan. She voiced the main heroine of a weekly tv show for 30 straight fucking years
>>288115783Lupin isn't a linear story though
>>288115749She voiced the main heroine for almost every week for 30 years of a super popular anime. There's a reason why she never ventured out that much because she's content with Ran (and Ayane for gaming)
Nami's VA is going to be fucking busy with having to voice both her and Ran now
>>288115783Monkey Punch is dead? I've been reading a dead guy's rape fantasies?
>>288115927Anon, he died 7 years ago
>>288115959Oh, that's not that long ago, he must've not been that old. Oh. He was 81. Man. He was only 30 when writing his rape manga though. I thought Lupin III was seventies, not late sixties. I still find it kind of crazy, what it became.
>>288115830>>288115838>>288115846>>288115874I will admit it definitively somewhat personal as i never bothered with Conan, but is having 1 big role really enough to make someone's career big? Specially in the world of animu where new classics are born every year? The equivalent of western acting would be a guy doing one TV series for 30 years with small bits on a couple of movies, i dont think its enough when we have examples of seiyuus who have almost double digits amount of big roles in their resume.But i do appreciate the patience with my somewhat controversial but honest opinion.
>>288115749When Keiji Fujiwara died a few years back the nation was mourning due to his most famous role being Shinnouke's dad.
>>288115749Don't underestimate the love people have for the usual normie anime shows. Conan is like their Spongebob
>>288116005>but is having 1 big role really enough to make someone's career big?Yes
>>288107570>Kogoro's first VA retire.He was fired for whatever reason
>>288116005The Friends cast were some of the most popular actors in their time despite nobody really giving that many shits about their other roles. And that was just a 10 year show.
>>288116005Most long running shows have seiyuus in their 60s- 80s because if you have a steady gig why would you juggle mutliple shows per season? Wakana was actually the youngest of the OG cast still active since the beginning who didn't die or retire its why these teenage girls sound like grannys.
>>288116005How many non-Dragonball roles of Nozawa's can you name without looking them up?
>>288107206Am I the only one pissed off about this?Did she know how Conan will end?FFS there is no reason Conan had to go on for 30+ yearsI am sick of this fucking bullshit.Gosho you fuck, end your series already.And the same goes for you too Oda.The industry needs to fucking crack down on this absolute horseshitMax a series should ever last is 15 years, and even that is too fucking much
>>288116225She was the MC in Galaxy Express 999 and Chopper's granny in OP
>>288116005Having one super big role is more important than a multitude of roles nobody knows
>>288116225Only Kureha in One Piece and Dukemon in Digimon came up instantly to my mind.
>>288116251Right, so you know one other big role and one very minor one. Yet you still know how absurdly huge she is, right?
>>288107206>>288116247Also ffs she was 61WTF is going on?Bulma's VA Hiromi Tsuru died even younger
>>288116005>but is having 1 big role really enough to make someone's career big?There's a reason the term "star making role" is a thing. You just need one big role to make it there
>>288116225She was the OG Doraemon from the lost OG Doraemon anime series if memory serves rightOr did she voice Nobita?I know Arale's VA went on to voice Eva Heinemann in Monster which is crazy
>>288116295>so you know one other big role and one very minor oneShe was also Guilmon which is a big role>>288116295>Yet you still know how absurdly huge she is, right?To be fair she's not exactly "active" she mainly voices Goku and is essentially a celebrity in Japan herself just lending her likeness not necessarily associated to anime
>>288116005Far more people know her in Japan than they do your meme seiyuus like Kanahana and Aoi Yuuki you retardConan anime has some of the highest TV ratings
>>288116345>essentially a celebrity in Japan herself just lending her likeness not necessarily associated to animeThis. She was in a McDonald's promotion a month ago
>>288116005Wakana Yamazaki may not have a big resume but it's basically having the same status as Goku or Luffy. She's been the childhood voice for 30yrs, That's more than what KanaHana could do
>no sticky againFuck these newfag mods
>>288116392That looks nothing like her what the fuck.
>>288116452That was the joke, they made a bishoujo version of her for a Tokimeki Memorial parody.
>>288116005>where new classics are born every yearConan is a normie show that airs in prime time, so it has 100x the viewership of whatever otakubait "classic" is airing that season.
>>288116247By this point, while hackery of the authors plays a great part, I think they also are forced in some way to stretch things as long as possible while the magazines think of something. Don't know about Conan's magazine, but Shonen Jump is clearly desperate in searching for something that sticks before One Piece ends with most of the 2010s hits having ended in just 5 years and being axe-happy about every new batch because they aren't fast-paced enough.
>>288107252Kogoro's first VA, Akira Kamiya is still alive albeit pushing 80. He got relieved all the way back in 2009 for contract related reasons. He was trying to negotiate pay raises but a staff member leaked confidential information which led to a breakdown in negotiations. Around the time he was let got, he told people to continue watching the show.https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=116809>>288108614About One Piece, Wakana Yamazaki took over for Akemi Okamura a long time ago for a few episodes (episodes 70-78) while Okamura was on maternity leave.
>>288116005Yes. You don't understand how big Conan is.
>>288116005You have no fucking idea how big is Conan in Japan.
>>288111729Even Rica Matsumoto had her closure with Satoshi/Ash ffs
>>288116247Conan literally prints money. They pump out a movie every year that makes a hundred million bucks, you don't kill a cash cow like that.
>>288116005Ran alone is way bigger than whatever FOTM otaku bait KanaHana or Hayamin voices.
>>288116225She voiced Kintaro in UY with the exact same voice she later used with Goku.
>>288116590Ricca is pretty damn happy Ash got to be the world champion before they retired him.
>>288111729It's interesting to see Conan and OP have the issues that they're both long running and have no clear sign of ending and yet their entire cast are in danger of not going through because of their respective authors
>>288116091Tom kenny dying will be a crying fucking shame. He had so many good roles and seems like a cool guy
>>288116505>I think they also are forced in some way to stretch things as long as possible while the magazines think of something.Bull fucking shit.At some point the authors can put their foot down. If Toriyama managed to do it with Dragon Ball, which was far bigger than Conan or One Piece ever were so could any other author.I don't believe for a second Gosho or Oda ever thought about ending their series. Especially not that self-indulgent fuck Oda.I feel like these authors are so engrossed on their work that they lose touch with reality after a while.
>>288116832It's not the mangaka's fault it's the companies that are keeping the franchises strong. That's how the businesses work in this day and age.
>>288116557>He got relieved all the way back in 20092009???Wasn't it more recent than that?The studio are dickheads for what they did to him btw.
>>288116896Toriyama only got away with it because he pretty much wanted to quit after every arc. And even then, they scrambled to put together GT to keep interest alive.
I mean, the One Piece cast will eventually have to accept they have to find replacmenets? Imagine being Franky's VA being surrounded by people two generations older than him.
>>288116938I mean, Kazuki Yao already got replaced.
>>288116938if Loki joins the strawhats, at least there's someone at least younger than the boomers
>>288116938Isn't the WIT remake doing that? it would be really dumb if they reuse the same VAs for that
>>288116616>Conan literally prints money.So fucking what?So does Dragon BallEnd the damn storyThen you can do all the spinoffs you want for the rest of time like Lupin
>>288117177Nobody wants the spin-offs. They've made plenty, they don't sell.
>>288116935>Toriyama only got away with it because he pretty much wanted to quit after every arc.He got away with it because he put his foot down.Oda and Gosho haven't even thought about ending their series because they are self-indulgent.>And even then, they scrambled to put together GT to keep interest alive.They can do all the spinoffs they want.Just finish the core story.
If anything, this thread shows off the average anon's ignorance towards Conan in general
>>288117041>WIT RemakeI doubt this shit will go on for longI just can't see itIt already looks like shit desu I wonder how much they will cut from the manga
>>288117212>Nobody wants the spin-offs. They've made plenty, they don't sell.Bullcrap.If trash like Boruto sells enough to stay afloat so can a Conan spin-off.I mean ffs Conan is pretty much all about solving cases. Gosho doesn't even have to write it. Get a professional mystery novel writer who is familiar with Conan and they will do a good job.
>Movie 29's title is "Fallen Angel of the Highway">Vermouth's nickname for Ran is "Angel"I....I just can't handle this, please it hurts
>>288117373Conan already has spinoffs.
>>288107444>Ayane in DOAFUUUUUCK I love those games...
>>288117414And if you end Conan now and replace it with a Conan spinoff the following week on the same timeslot the ratings won't drop much. Which is my point.I am sure Conan will outlive Gosho even if he ends it, just like Lupin did Monkey Punch.Just due to the type of series it is alone.
>>288117398>Movie 29's title is "Fallen Angel of the Highway">Vermouth's nickname for Ran is "Angel"This has to be a coincidence.
The nips made it seem like Ran herself is dead, help
>>288117638I can't blame them. Voicing a character that long is bound to give a big effect
>>288116505Detective Conan runs in Shonen Sunday, and was pretty much selling both the magazine and its spinoff magazines on its own until Frieren arrived. The editors NEEDED the series to continue.
>>288116935Also Shonen Jump had another ultra hit in Slam Dunk at the time, so Dragonball wasn't THAT necessary for the magazine's survival. It was Slam Dunk ending that made its sales plummet hard.
>>288117638It's certainly something
>>28811759829th movie's plot is not about Ran, however Movie 30 does seem to be centered on Ran and Shinichi. Pain just increases, may she rest in peace
>>288117638Gosho is gonna make some changes very soon. I don't think a happy ending for Conan wont work at all.
>>288117810Movie 30 is so far away it's still possible to heavily change its plot. I can see that happening.
>>288117638I mean I am not a huge fan but it is still very sad. She was the type of actress to not take on a ton of roles but she was extremely devoted to the ones she had. Dead or Alive was what I mostly knew her from, it makes me quite sad that a new entry was announced after a long hiatus, and it will be the first time in the series' 30 year history that her voice will not be in it.
>>288117956Nips are speculating that 30th movie could be the last Conan movie.
>>288112452Cased Closed is massive in China/Hong Kong, maybe Pokemon tier in terms of recognition.
>>288107206RIP Yaeba Queen.Stickied to me if not here
>>288117638>>288117739Look on the bright side, Haibara now has a chance with Ran dead.
>>288118690If Haibara wins it will be the biggest FUCK YOU from Gosho to the fans.
>>288116938They have the Dragonball nuclear option and have already picked their replacements.Boomer VAs aren't that delusional.
>>288119039Fucking... like every fan I know seems to prefer Haibara. Not me, because I just take what the story says at face value, but like it is a pretty popular take.
ive been reading for the past months Conan,but i have to say that this is 100% Gosho's fault. Hardcore fans were expecting for years development instead of the usual Case of the week but Gosho and the Sunday dont even flinch into pushing Conan to never get out of the zombie state the show has been for years. Even fucking Hajime no ippo and One piece are taking more risks in their shows than conan
>>288115566He wasn't even focusing on her character much anymore. Even when Shinichi and Ran stories would happen it'd just be an excuse to be about Amuro or Kaito Kid instead.
>>288119323Yeah, 30 years is well enough time to consider "people don't live forever, I should start focusing on wrapping this up", instead he just dragged the shit on with more new characters only made because they were connected to fan favorites like Amuro or Matsuda. Literally just wasting time and making money.
How do you even drag a manga for 30yrs that's mostly operate on a semi serious plot? This ain't the Simpsons or Family guy where they can get away with it. At least One Piece had an excuse that time is still moving albeit at a super snails pace
>>288107206God I'm so pissed off about the bullshit and drivel Conan devolved into. Now the VA of Ran is dead on top of it. Why couldn't Gosho just focus on resolving the main story and then let the other stupid shit follow later, instead of permanently pushing away any resolution that will outlive the main cast and probably even himself?I hope the retarded pandering was worth it.
>>288118690Haibara is to Conan what Akako is to Kaito, an edgy girl that used to be on enemy side, but is now an ally, but the hero never looks at her romantically.
>>288118049They are kind of running out of good ideas for these, and the plot has been getting progressively worse, but considering the profits I can't see them just giving up.
>>288112837>It isn't really about lack of good titles, it is about having popular titles.Sunday is also notorious for treating some of its biggest mangaka like shit. Makoto Raiku and Tamiki Wakaki were both deeply spurned by them. Although Wakaki's problem seemed to primarily be with his editor, so he kept working with Shigakukan after Kaminomi. I know there are others, but I can't remember any off the top of my head.
>>288119784>I hope the retarded pandering was worth it.Well he's filthy rich so I'm pretty sure it's worth it in his eyes. It's not as the a VA passing is going to make him suddenly decide to wrap up the manga. This shit happens with long running series. Actors die and/or are replaced. Conan absolutely should have ended, or at least wrapped up its main narrative, a long time ago. But it's not as though he should feel guilty that it happened to outlive one of the VAs that starred in the adaptation. That's hardly his fucking fault.
>>288120597The "it's just an adaptation" thing is very disingenous. The anime became such a big thing it practically took charge of the narrative itself and Gosho is often involved with the anime and draws/sometimes does some animation for the films. It's a big deal. And "it's not his fault they died" is a retarded way of considering people tired of a dragged out show wanting it to have a resolution when it had 3 decades to do so before a main cast member died.
>>288120597He had 30 years dude. It's not like this ran for 3-4 or even 10 years and something happened to a main cast member. He had 30 years, he runs it so long he risks pretty much all the main cast dying with no signs of resolving anything. This was entirely preventable. He was lucky no main cast member died until now, but still to this day just focuses on introducing new characters who do nothing other than sell merch.
>>288107206Sad because you could probably count the amount of times Ran was given a devoted or emotional scene in the past 10 years on one hand.
>>288120742It took me a while to realize just how much stuff was imported from the anime. Like, a LOT a lot of stuff. Even if I bet Gosho writes better mysteries, there would be a bunch of stuff missing if it wasn't for the anime.
>>288111729Has there ever been a case of a major/notable series where the MC Seiyu dies before the role is finished? Would this (possibly) be the first? If it happened I am guessing they would use AI to finish it out. There is no way you are Toei and dont see the possibility of this happening and use the time you have to have her record every single possible Nip sound/letter in every context you can think of and bank on AI being good enough to finish the job if/when the inevitable happens.
>>288121189>AI
>>288121164If it wasn't for the anime/movie audience the story itself would be different. Because of the movies, Amuro knows Shinichi ever since he was a kid and this was just brute forced into the manga in a sudden case where after years of building up the secret identity tension, Amuro just knows because everyone collectively suddenly remembers this was a thing out of nowhere.You wouldn't have all this excess stuff about Matsuda and a new character if the anime/movies didn't popularize Matsuda so much. I don't think any of that would've ever happened and Matsuda would've remained just some dead guy in an old case. Instead he got more content dedicated to him than Ran has the last decade.How many people here even know that Ran and Shinichi have been dating? The franchise forgot until recently but it's still just off-hand mentions. It's so easy to forget it ever happened.
>>288121212Im not saying its right, but its likley how they will do it. I domt see how you could do it without ruining the anime.
>>288121375I feel like on /a/ most people sort of forget/aren't aware of anything after the London case. That seems to be where people fell off, and good on them for it because it's been mostly shit since then. They didn't start dating until the school trip arc but I could see some people misremembering it and thinking they started dating at the london case because it was so long ago and it was still a big emotional confession from Shinichi.
>>288120742as a creator dragging a work this long and everyone surrounded is invested this hard, then you have a sense of responsability to give the fans what they wanted for so long. Fuck, even after 25 years itagaki gave the readers Baki vs yujiro and everything post that its just extra, Oda does that at snail pace, Morikawa after Miura died he started to planning an actual ending. Gosho still stucked
>>288121671The thing is, Conan is being dragged on because of what current fans want. No one cares about Shinichi and Ran anymore, just Amuro and his ilk. The manga has focused more on them than it has even acknowledged the main characters dating for the past decade. So technically, it is giving fans what they want, just not the ones that would involve resolving anything to do with the main charas. More people hate Ran now and want Conan to get with Ai and they even made a movie for them. Ran's VA died before they could even get back to thinking about her again.
>>288121375I don't even mean big narrative stuff. I mean stuff like Sonoko and Takagi.
>>288115749Its a:>Voiced super duper legendary 50 YO anime that defined 3 generations money printing IP.>Random girl in anime X>Random peasant girl in isekai X>Kakero Sugichi in anime barely anyone remembers from the 80s.
>>288121955Yeah, there's always been a good sense of cohesion between the mediums. But it became worse when the demographics changed because of the audience the anime and especially the blockbuster films were drawing in. Sonoko wasn't an anime original I don't think, I believe they just introduced her a little early in a filler before adapting her canon debut. But Takagi yes, and by extension that would include Sato.The cohesion is so broken now though, in one of the more recent cases in the manga Ran just mentions how Kaito keeps disguising as Shinichi even though that was only a thing in the movies. Because that's how big the anime is over there, the movies are practically bigger than the manga. So to say the VAs don't and shouldn't hold weight to resolving the stories of the characters they play is disingenous. It's been 30 years, and nothing about what the series is dragging things out for is that big of a deal to not think "maybe I should resolve the main plot for both the fans who have been around for 3 decades waiting, and for the VAs who have brought so much life and attention to these characters to be there for the resolution."At this point I don't even think Gosho cares if he lives to the finale. He has the story's ending locked away in case someone else needs to do it if he dies.
>>288108005>>288108020Do you want to die?
>>288120507To be honest, I read a bunch of manga creators responses to that lawsuit and I don't really know how much of it is Shonen Sunday being bad and how much of it is just the industry being bad. And that's not even getting into how much of it was the guy folding under pressure to what everyone else in the industry considers normal. Whole thing is a mess. https://www.furinkan.com/features/articles/raiku.html
>>288122041Ah, I don't know how I got confused about Sonoko. I understand what you mean, but I'll be honest, I just read the manga and I'm not caught up so all this stuff is beyond me. I mean, Kaito definitely did it at least once in the manga, but he disguises himself all the time as fucking anyone. I dunno, I understand it is disheartening, but I can't really blame Gosho for just doing mysteries each week. Of course, all the other cast stuff is overwhelming to me. There's clearly an audience for it and one that makes bank for hundreds of people so I can't really say much. I bet Yamazaki was happier for the chance to have been Ran for the last thirty years than having gotten a proper conclusion and send off after twenty.
>>288107206Rest in Peace
It has begun already with boomer Gendum voice actors croaking plus Professor OakUp next are the DBZ, One Piece and I daresay even NGE voice actorsNardo/Bleach/Fate franchise plus every 2000s anime and beyond are still fine and okay, including the darlings of that era even though most if not all of them are in their 50s now (yes, even Shitber's voice actress is like 50 now)This is why Sailormoon recasted everyone save for the main character
>>288107206This was always bound to happen with a main VA dying before Conan could end. Even after 30 years you still have shit like>Heiji wants to confess to Kazuha. But whoops, he just kinda forgot?>wait for next case>Heiji and Kazuha finally start dating>wait for next case>Heiji and Kazuha are finally dating! What will happen?>Nothing, they just don't do anything and it builds up to them telling Ran and Conan that they're dating, even though they both already fucking knew and saw it personally last time, and Conan was right there next to Kazuha the whole time but Heiji forgot that too so we could meander longerThis kind of ridiculous stretching was bound to outlive the VAs. It's clear Gosho isn't thinking about that at all and will gladly just fool around until his own heart gives out. He's 62, a year older than Yamazaki, and he still writes a bunch of nothing cases that feel like they should only exist within the first few years of a story, not after 30.No one will live to see the end of Conan, not you, not me, not the VAs, not the creator. And that's not a joke like people say with One Piece. You can look at the content yourself to see that he's not feeling any pressure even at the risk of him dying first and just wanting to reach the conclusion while he's alive.
>>288122655>This is why Sailormoon recasted everyone save for the main characterSailor Moon's fans hated the casting change. The older seiyuu were still able to make their younger voices. Toei still fuck them over and the whole franchise.
>>288122655>every 2000s anime and beyond are still fine and okay
Voice acting should be a baton, not a lifetime gig.After you reach senior citizen age it's time to train your replacement and pass the baton.
>>288122843>Voice acting should be a baton, not a lifetime gig.Voice acting is lifetime of an opportunity if you're willing to put your soul into it. You can quit but you have to find your replacement till then.
Damn 61 is way too young
>>288116005Conan has 29 movies, not ova's, not special but movies. Movies that are always released during golden week so that Japanese salaryman can bring their wife and kids to it in theaters, not netflix, theaters. Post covid some smaller theaters said that the 1 week run of conan saved them from going under. It's fucking huge.
>>288117664This is heartbreaking. Imagine her reading the manga countless times, putting so much effort into understanding Ran's feelings, the pain she felt when Shinichi disappeared from her life without saying goodbye, how he constantly stands her up and deceives her, and using that context to portray how she would react in a variety of situations, while looking forward to future scenes where Ran finally gets together with Shinichi and even celebrates her birthday. Another actor can't just replace her, she is Ran, and now those future scenes are fundamentally not they way they were intended to be.
>>288107444rip
>>288107444>bobobo and literal sex from outlaw starhuge loss, rip a legend
>>288116225Agumon
>>288123018Somehow the VA life is so draining.
>>288125830You wonder under how many satantic contracts Nozawa is to have lasted so long.
>>288122843And by training a replacement I mean training an AI.
>>288116005>are Simpsons va's really more famous than dtv va's?
>>288116005Whole America would stop if Homer Simpson dies
>>288123187This user is an art thief btw
RIP
>>288122655>Up next are the DBZ,Bulma's VA already died, from surprisingly the same type of sudden heart emergency that took Miura's life.
>>288125844Some people are simply built to live longer. Seniors past mid 80s have pretty much been weeded out for weird genetic diseases and bad lifestyle habits. They simply continue to live on.
>>288111729I fear it's going to happen to Mayumi Tanaka. One piece is on the same problem as Conan is that their respective publishers are not letting go of their biggest cash cow because the rest of the magazine sells like shit And mind you, Elbaf is not even the last arc. We have yet to enter the very final arc
No offense to the VAs but I think if the character sounds way too rough for the age they're supposed to be, then they should get replacedLuffy should not sound like a cranky grandma trying to sound young. Same goes for Goku. Both are still young males in characters but their VAs are the opposite
>>288127678I predict Luffy, Brook, and Jinbei (again) aren't gonna make it.
>>288127780That's nice, I think VAs should only be replaced in the event of death.
>>288127848Not a fan of Franky's new VA but I sure wouldn't have liked the old one slowly struggling even more than he already did.
>>288127848>>288127899Franky's OG VA sounded really terrible during the last few episodes but it was understandable
>>288127899The lack of OG Franky, but especially Bon Clay, is what makes me confident the remake will never surpass the Toei anime. Im disappointed by how little Frankies new VA is trying to imitate the original voice. I wasnt expecting perfection, but it feels like he isnt putting any effort in. I think we still havent gotten a single SUPER from him yet in the anime, right?
Teeth like a broken piano.
>>288116005it's literally the equivalent of losing Tom Kenny for the western world, you only know him for spongebob and nothing else but to a lot of people, that's a big one
>>288129626Poor man's fence teeth, respectfully.
>>288128988Amen to that
The fact she was Nojiko's VA and that Nami's VA took for eachother is actually really sweet.
At the very least, her replacement being nami's VA isn't all that bad. At least most people know Nami's voice and her VA. Unlike say Subaru Kimura replacing Kazuki Yao
Uh question: does Gosho have a percentage of ownership of the Conan IP or some clause that everything has to go through him?Not sure how IP ownership works in relationship to mangakas and their creations but, at least in Burgerland, if Gosho decided to put his foot down and finally get to endgame, he could easily be thrown out and replaced by someone willing to continue the money train.
>people acting like this shit is ever going to endIt makes too much money. This series will outlive them all without ever coming to a resolution. They'll reboot/remake the entire series first.
>>288130826In japan both the mangaka and the editorial own the IP in most cases with some exceptions like Togashi completely owning HxH.
>>288130826Mangakas actually have ownership over the IP and get a shitton of money from merchandising and sales if it becomes successful, unlike murrican slaves who quite literally own nothing and only ever get paid a shitty monthly check from the editorial.
>>288130858It's like a soap opera, it's designed to go on forever if it wants.
>>288130974NO! NO! NO! NO! NO! I WANT AN ENDING AND I WANT IT NOW!
>>288130826
>>288117041Nope, it's confirmed that at least Luffy is keeping his VA. And, yeah, that's dumb.
>>288131379But why? At this point, they should be expecting new VAs in case the old ones go under.
>>288127579>Bulma's VA already diedNot to mention Joji Yanami, the narrator for the franchise and the voice of Kaio-sama up to episode 12 of Super.
>>288110363>Ran Mouri>small rolesI refuse to believe this isn't bait.
Honestly. They should really plan on replacements. Luffy's VA really ain't gonna get through the entirety of One Piece
>>288131735Never realised Zoro and Luffy are that far apart despite being there from the start
>>288131735Pisses me off how they're keeping the VAs for the new OP adaptation.
>>288126559Like Kaito Kid or they edit other peoples' art and claim it as their own?
>>288131379>>288131954That's really dumb. No offense to Japan's practices but sooner or later, their VAs will have to get changedI don't think anyone wanted to hear literal grandmas and grandpas trying to sound hard to be teenagers and young adults. Every try watching modern Simpsons? Marge sounds terrible nowadays
>>288107206why do they die in their 60s
Reading some of the replies here makes me wonder if they even watch anime or at least keep up with the news. It's one thing not liking the series, it's another to even think Ran Mouri or Conan is some obscure mild-of-the-run anime. DC is huge in Japan. It's even more popular than One Piece if we go by the TV ratings (DC's rating is consistently double that of OP). You will see Conan pretty much everywhere if you stay in Japan. Same with Doraemon. I just got off the train this morning and I see literal toddler reading the manga, and the OG manga ended 30 years ago.
>>288107206Been awhile since I last watched a Meitantei Conan episode, like 3 years ago- so about 160ish episodes back. I just decided to watch the newest and most likely filler episode today just for the heck of it. Finally came the scene where Ran spoke, and i immediately noticed something was different. I was wondering why Ran sounded so wrong. Turned out it was this. Fuck. Now I'm sad. Conan was my anime growing up, though I haven't followed it weekly for a while now, I still binge through the manga/canon episodes that pile up. Rest in peace Wakana-san.
>>288131735I thought Zoro's VA was older with his voice.
>>288131735jesus, zoro is younger than i thought
>>288131735Japan seems confident Luffy's VA is getting through all of it. After all, Nozawa is currently 89 and is still voicing Goku
>>288133670It's not the same. Nozawa has already completed DB multiple times. Whether it be the original, Z, or GT. She has done her part in seeing Goku's journey and saw the end. Luffy doesn't. And the worst part is that, we're at the final saga.
i feel like my heart's never going to get over this one
As much as I despise the granny voices both Luffy and Goku have, I do know people will be devastated once we lose them. And the replacement is a generic anime guy voice
>>288132212>>288133817Goku sounds the same as he did in Episode 1. Her performance has not declined.
>>288133845JP Goku always sound like shit to me so it's not like it matters if Nozawa was like 50 or 100Luffy is way more noticeable in the decline
Getting into Conan is a herculean task because like 80% of the show is MotW filler. Is there like an episode or chapter guide if you mainly care about story development?
>>288133926>Is there like an episode or chapter guide if you mainly care about story development?Yes. Check the wiki.
>>288107206RIP Meiko, you fucked up choosing your teacher over the blue haired guy
>>288133926You're supposed to watch all the "filler". It's a mystery show.
>>288107444>>288107206RIP
>>288107206>>288134042RIP
>>288107206>Show went on for so long Ran died
>>288108040I think Sean schimmel will be a bigger mourning in the world than go us seiyuu.
>>288135434Sad
>>288107444RIP Maria
>>288135595
>>288107444Gulliver Boy spotted
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>>288135451Fuck him after what he did to Vic. What they all did.
If I were in charge, I would have made Aoyama write the ending and record Ran's lines so that in the final episode she would say that she finally waited for Shinichi in her real voice.
>>288107206Never watched any of those, so nothing of value was lost, rip.
>>288109986Yes, Dragon Ball Super
>>288107786Oh no, she has her mom's genes!
>>288131734when why did you respond, jackass?
>>288132937They're all Americans, pay them no mind.
>>288132937Adding to this, while I was in China, they ran the Conan and Doraemon on TV and regular ads and merch of it. In East Asia in general, Conan's huge.
>>288131735Hagmi...
>>288137280Why?
>>288137605East Asians tend to have taste
>>288137683How did a show about a teen trapped in the body of a kid who is a detective who solves murders and has a forbidden love with his teen gf become so huge?
>>288137710are americans usually this ignorant?
>>288137280It's huge in the Far East (East & Southeast Asia) as staple anime. You can go to China, South Korea, Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand, or Indonesia and everyone, including normies, grew up watching Conan, Shin Chan and Doraemon. Anime has been a widely accepted form of media there since the 90s, compared to the west where it only gained a wide enough acceptance around the time of SAO and AoT.
>>288138285Don't forget about ItalyConan is also huge there
Not familiar with most of her roles but RIP. Wanna try watching Conan since it's so popular but>1200 episodes
>>288135692This. Vic should have gotten better lawyers.
>>288111729Luffy's VA has a high chance of biting it solely cuz Oda takes for-fucking-ever, and the anime remaining on one chapter per episode will only make it worse.
>>288107495Guess I gotta buy ninja gaiden 4.
>>288114962Look up how far Alpha Centauri is from Earth and you'll have your answer.
>>288138586It the west, yeah. Anime has been surprisingly huge in Italy compared to others. The amount of titles Italy imported was comparable to Japan's neighbors. It surprised me since Italy is too far for Japan to focus on geopolitical soft power, which was what it was doing in the Far East at the time. Japan subsidized the export of anime in Southeast Asia since it's not really a viable market in the first place for them, but they spread their influence there to have a better image. They also tolerated Chinese piracy on anime while did joint deals with Korean companies to export anime there (since it was illegal to directly sell Japanese products in South Korea at the time). Somehow, Italy got that same export. I wonder if Italian television companies were just actively licensing anime back then due to personal preferences of whoever was in position there, or if other EU and US were just not taking anime as a form of media for more serious and mature contents like City Hunter, etc. for television and only opted for ones targeting kids (DBZ, Pokemon, etc). I know US did have home releases for these seinen content in VHS/DVDs but their catalog for TV airings seemed too tiny for the 90s, while most Asian nations aired Evangelion in the late 90s on their television channels.
>>288134042If Marmalade Boy Little is ever animated, who would be a fitting successor to Yamazaki as Meiko?
>>288133277I get it but I do believe that the replacement actress they got is genuinely good. It doesn't sound exactly the same, Wakana-san's voice is too unique for that, but it sounds a lot closer than I expected.
>>288111729Mayumi Tanaka is not going to make it. She's already dreading being recasted for the WIT remake. If that isn't some weird sign she doesn't have long. I don't know what is
It seems the nips are on the same page as us because the immediate concern besides Conan is One Piece with the strawhats but especially Luffy
>>288121189>If it happened I am guessing they would use AI to finish it out. >There is no way you are Toei and dont see the possibility of this happening and use the time you have to have her record every single possible Nip sound/letter in every context you can think of and bank on AI being good enough to finish the job if/when the inevitable happens.besides (((AIslop))), the fans will see it as a mockery of her job. A similar sounding seiyuu will be preferred.I understand that it is One Piece so they don't care about quality but people are like that. Which is good, fuck your slop.
>>288112608>Conan is very popular outside of the USirrelevant countries
Can we not have another grandma voice? Luffy needs a real male VA. It's not like people had issues with hearing a male voice from the Live Action.
>>288138833Half the episodes are filler. Just find a good watch guide.
>>288141728Bad filler?
>>288141760You can watch the filler episodes up until around the digital change. After that, they're easily skippable.
>>288107444AYANE FUCKING DIED? NOOOOOOO
>>288107206What would it feel like to lick those teeth?
