office yuri is trending lately
Lovers
Switch Sendai for Renako in Shuukura. What happens?
offish lady
>>288135407This is cultural appropriation of the chinese.>>288135446Miyagi would smile at her. Renako has that dumbass rizz.
>>288135531This woman scares me.
>>288135446Renako would probably get Miyagi faster
>>288135483In baihe, one of them must be an executive
>>288135446Switch Renako for Miyagi in Watanare. What happens?
>>288135483the chinese would never allow a slightly chubby character to exist
>>288135576But Iris is also a sort of office romance
>>288135531The plainest.
Anyone reading Ohsawa Yayoi's latest series? No male cuck this time.
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/lets_hang_out_when_the_black_plague_is_over_a_slow_life_of_modern_civilization_in_the_world_of_middle_age_europe_ch10
>>288135676Dropped this after the first chapter. Did it get yuri?
>>288135608Ajisai wants to heal Miyagi.Miyagi wouldn't be able to have a honest conversation with Mai, so Mai wouldn't be impressed.Miyagi and Satsuki would trade few words, but sort of enjoy each other's presence even with a distance.Miyagi would hate Kaho.
Talking about Love Curse. I think they should expand the side pair more. Love them.
I watched Sayonara Lala episode 1 yesterday, and I declare that it's gonna be yuri.
>>288135846>Miyagi would hate Kaho.Based.
>>288135895It's out?
>>288135920They showed the premiere at Acen.
>>288135895I trust you, I'll put all my savings on that bet on Polymarket.
>>288135895How was it?
>>288135895>Luca: A boy whom Lara meets after her rebirth and bears a resemblance to the human prince Lara loved in the past.Bislut?
>>288135895Are you willing to converse about why exactly it convinced you that it could go yuri?
>>288135972It's going to be a sort of Little Mermaid retelling with a twist (aka she ends up with a girl rather than the prince).
Given the author of the original work’s relationship with little girls, my media literacy is tingling.
>>288135972Well he doesn't appear in the first episode, since half of it is the Little Mermaid backstory and the second half is her meeting with Mari. I'm just saying that they emphasize the first meeting of Lara and Mari really hard, with Lara wishing that this time she wants a happy ending right before Mari pulls her out of the water and dramatic slow mo of the first time they look at each other.
>>288136035Impressive how this movie managed to flop even harder than aquaflope. The writer should just stick to het romances since that's the only type of romance they've done
>>288136035oh it got subbed
>>288136120It's not impossible it could go a route of not caring about destined partners and the sort but feels a bit too early to be putting all your chips in anyway.
>>288135407>former ugly girl takes her hate out on the world by destroying Stacy egosbased truecel yuri
>>288136035This is the Alice in Wonderland X Isekai'd Office Lady movie, right?Curious to see the /u/ veredict.
JP>JKs in love with senseis frustrated by their dead bedroomsKR>interns lusting after the stylish director who drives a super car to her fitted suit appointmentsCN>courtesans battling in a deathgame for their chance to sleep in the empress' bed
>>288136203I'm just saying that the dramatic framing of the first meeting of Lara and Mari was very loaded.
>>288136280>courtesans battling in a deathgame for their chance to sleep in the empress' bedSadly its students and office ladies too. Apothecary Diaries gave me a real hunger for yuri harem (literal) stories.
Iroha is DA STRONGEST
>>288136325A sort of Apothecary story with a "chinese inner palace but it's actually all yuri" is a hit waiting to happen, you just need someone who is able to write it.
>>288136231It was pretty oneeloli/10
>>288136325>>288136393Fall in Love with the EmpressOnce again, The Noble Consort Yields Herself to the Enemy Unaware His Majesty Is a Girl
>>288136231It was yet another failed PA works yuribait/10
>>288136287GQuuuuuux episode 1 levels of loaded?
Somehow Kaguya got revitalized AGAIN
>>288135407>office yuri is trendingPost more examples. And no Korean trash.
>>288135407Well fucking finally!
>>288136514
>>288136514The hype has been going strong since the movie dropped
>>288136514revitalized? there's been non-stop yuri fanart since it first aired.
>>288135668Doesn't seem to be on dynasty and md is down.
I tell myself that I am the potted plant but I fear I might actually be the self inserting troon.
Can Saki be considered a femcel? She seethed because her unrequited crush married a guy, groomed a helpless disable girl, and made Kanon dependent on her.
>>288136847Kuzushiro self-insert
>>288136532Anything by Yuni the former OL lesbian
>>288135407Why is that yaoi artstyle for yuri
>>288136847I don't think someone who managed a grooming operation like that could be considered a 'cel.
>>288136514The BD announcement is the last spike it's going to get. Kaguya art has already been getting less likes on Twitter for a while now. All the engagement-chasing artists will soon move on to Madoka when the movie releases in 100 days.
>>288136877shut the fuck up.
>>288136847It's al Kanon's fault.
>>288136889Madoka is so last decade
>>288136889The VR event that went over 5000% will be the next spike
>>288136860>Kuzushiro self-insertthat would be the protagonist of her new manga
>>288136889Kaguya is too big to not get a sequel despite not needing one
>>288136936>hint-dropping queenCringe translation
If we had a Moon VN with a bunch of good endings and bad endings, in some of them Saki would become a yandere giving Kanon the KnM treatment.
>>288137047Based and truer-to-the-text.
>>288137047Attention whoring is better considering her conversation with the lil sister. But yuribaiting is funny.
>>288137184male gaze
Is Azami a Yaya if she had sexual relations with fishe when they lived together?
>>288137340they didn't though.
>>288136889If your only attack against a show is>Heh it didn't become a cultural phenomenon that people will still talk about years from nowthen it's not a good point, unless you're a long-running shounen/isekai LN getting multiple seasons then everything is forgotten.
>>288137364But the tail!
>>288137380I mean, people will still talk about it years from now. It just won't be consistently as popular for years, something nothing really is.
>>288137340No, that just makes her an ex. A Yaya cannot have anything more than friendship received from her unrequited love.
>>288135407
Yuri relevant timestamps:>Happy Synthesizer cover from Cosmic Princess Kaguya:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcKxlr3lXIk&t=286s>Hayate showing off her girlfriend in self introduction sectionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcKxlr3lXIk&t=921s>Kokoa getting jealous of Hayate's audience appeal (fan service), and the two are told to do the flirting at homehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcKxlr3lXIk&t=1031s>Tokyo Otaku Date, Hayate has a uchiwa saying "Love from Heart" that has Kokoa's name in it as wordplayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcKxlr3lXIk&t=1140s>TSUTAE TALK, the Hayacoco Valentine songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcKxlr3lXIk&t=1343s>Kogetsu, the song that led the two lonely souls to meet in the first placehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcKxlr3lXIk&t=1539s>The only D4DJ song that reached Japanese mainstream audience due to all the JKs, youtubers/vtubers, idols and local mascots doing a meme with the songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcKxlr3lXIk&t=2330s>Refactoring Utopia, a song about pull requests by the Wataoshi OP/ED song creatorshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcKxlr3lXIk&t=2557s>8bit Hayacoco talking about the two duet songs and Hayate saying the two will do "something" at home after concert, implied to be a romance thinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcKxlr3lXIk&t=2935s>Covers of 2 Needy Girl Overdose songshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcKxlr3lXIk&t=3815s>They make the plushie kiss and even say "chuu"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcKxlr3lXIk&t=4485sThey make sure to put the plushies in couples on the table before encore songs
>that blush after getting a little rough kiss in the key frameCute, depressed masofaggot.
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>>288137831Roka...
>>288135846Miyagi would shlick to Kaho's domestic abuse ASMR
Amayo ends with the girls realizing co-dependency isn't healthy, and they part ways amicably. How would you react?
>>288137564I miss this dude's 7 foot tall NBA lesbians. An artist abandoning their OCs is a unique kind of melancholy.
>>288138048Kanon getting cucked and Saki getting finger blasted by the other girl is.my dream end.
>>288138048So... AniYome?
Such pretty hands
>>288138048We all know Saki belongs to old women and Kanon and her soon to be canon girlfriend Mahiro are just copes
>>288138476Not often you see guys using make up on their hands
>>288138476Paid actor btw
yuri ship popularity trends over the years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzMi_2c0ap0
>>288138832Yuri went to shit in 2022 until Ansy saved it
>>288135846Miyagi would make Kaho lick her legs and Kaho would love it.
At what temperature does yuri bait become yuri?
>>288139352Evidence suggests around 40 degrees Celsius.
>>288137679It is neat that the audience cheer at all the yuri moments.
Rate my wallpaper.
Noigh?
>>288139470NO IGarasHi.
>>288138832The GL/BL/het stats are completely depressing until 2023. Why aren't more nips into yuri?
Latest mankitsu episode was a feast. Too bad Yuri fans aren't watching it.
>>288139655It requires good taste
>>288139698I'd watch it if it was womankitsu.
>>288138832Bokita nuke
>>288139655Women are homophobic and men need to reach ascetic monk status to truly enjoy yuri, naturally limiting the target audience.
>>288139861>Women are homophobicThen why do they love BL so much?
>mental retardation duuude why is yuri so unpopularyeah that's why there's a yuri anime every season and nothing for yaoishut the fuck up monkeys
>>288135407Reproduce.
>>288139461#stopthe gujoubullying
>>288139936but there is literally yaoi this very season thoughbeit
>>288135439First post best yuri
>>288140001Wow, that's cool, stay in the thread for it then.
>>288139936>yuribait* anime every seasonFixed that for you.
>>288139896Fujos (japanese women, westerners cannot be fujos) are famous for having a large portion of their fanbase who wants to see guys fucking but not wanting them to be a couple or still thinking a man should take responsibility and have a family in the end, you can easily see this reflect in which works and ships are more popular, they also are fine with feminization but hate traps.
>>288140064aww you're cuteno need to get mad bb
>>288140105We literally had a explicit yuri work every season this year anon, next season is kimishinu and the last one should be moon.
>>288135407Aoto Hibiki is truly the greatest straight yuri author. Every work she does she has the leads looking more sexo than the last. Does it have anything to do with her girlfriend?
>>288140322kill yourself, retard.
>>288140322You had me in the first half. It's true that the art is looking so good. My oh my they're hot.
>>288139861>Women are hypocritesFixed for you.
>>288135439Majima is so lucky
>>288140388>Women are hotFixed that for the closeted culture warrior.
Kaguya won
What is Android mangaka even drawing nowadays
>>288140450They still have the cheating wife one going on, I think.
>>288140322>yuri mangaka's motivation is to make her GF horny and jealous
>>288140105We already established that you're mentally retarded
>>288139655Culture. Yuri is relative new to the industry, it borderline was nonexistent until 2 decades ago, meanwhile yaoi is much more ingrained in japanese culture due to how male characters have been portrayed in japanese history and fiction dating centuries, something which became much more stronger when the theater scene became a thing and you often would had guys playing the role of the female love interest. The word yuri was born in a yaoi magazine, the first yuri circles were basically spin offs of yaoi circles. The original yuri authors were also yaoi and then BL writers. Shipping also is a recent thing with the male demographic, it became more normalized after idol culture exploded.
>>288139896BL is spiritually het
>>288140448Kaguya won so hard you have antis living 24/7 on yuri threads just trying to shit talk it about how the movie with 99% yuri fan-art and discussion is actually not yuri.
>And then she said she got banned from the aquarium
>>288138476>>288138621do you have the videos of Yukikos hands? I forgot to save.
"Hitokiri" Shoujo Koushaku Reijou no Goei ni Naru 15https://mangadex.org/chapter/7745908b-0ba0-4309-87b6-96f14f6f7505The Yandere Sister Just Wants Me to Bully Her 57https://mangadex.org/chapter/89ff7564-dd2a-4ce8-b0d8-f0df5688b02cLet's Hang Out When the Black Plague is Over!: A Slow Life of Modern Civilization in the World of Middle Age Europe 10 (end)https://mangadex.org/chapter/c2f31238-ee42-4582-b19e-d72411e5c123Isekai Maou Gokko 17https://mangadex.org/chapter/83ed631f-27a7-45c3-b069-24478040f11d/1Yuri is my job 75https://mangadex.org/chapter/8c4f3326-3207-4dbd-873e-b846b6781e61/1Techno Panic Universe 1https://mangadex.org/chapter/f571ecc8-89c2-4943-927f-2c990d9e0d0a/1
>>288138832Are these niggas intentionally avoiding Uisaki?
>>288138832IroKagubros...
>>288141136It stopped right when CPK was released
>>288140985I don't think however they calculate trends is just pure numbers.
>>288140401>>288139970https://myanimelist.net/anime/10458/Ran%E2%86%92Sem__Hakudaku_Delmo_Tsuma_no_Miira_Tori/charactersHoly smoke. Now I get why he ships Majima with Chisato and Ojisan with Ruri so much!
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/sakuras_world_ch18#1
>>288141192I wonder what the numbers are for IroKagu
>>288139970This lucky ugly fat bastard gets to fuck >>288135439What a chad!
Soon...
Can't self-insert as him. Don’t wanna daughter this autistic.
>>288135439>>288135467>Ruri with short hair>Nagi with no curves
>>288142047I guess he wanted to see who would be his autistic gay daughter girlfriend, guess they will produce an offspring of normal height though
Any cohabitation yuri like Kaguya's 2nd half
>>288142384In B4 autistic midget ojousama granddaughter
>noighd has a strict no-het policy so he bribed another scan group into TLing Igarashi's other mangaThe plot thickens...
>>288140951Fucking finally I’ve been starving for Watayuri
>>288138832Great demonstration what a giant nuclear bomb onto a mostly barren Touhou scraps wasteland Madoka was. Unfortunately there just wasn't much to follow it up, so gacha brainrot took over and it took a decade for people to realize (again) that you can ship characters that actually canonically care about each other. Why it was Lycoris recoil of all things that did that I have no fucking clue, but I'll take it.
>>288139896>they are homophobicwomen are way more likely to support lgbt stuff than men, what are you saying lmao.
Is it actually that pleasurable?
>>288142825If you’re an extreme masochist, probablyIs the TL on hold until the uncensored chapters release? I’ve been enjoying the adventures of masochist JK and awakened sadist teacher
>>288138832whats the lore behind the vtuber ship? what happened to them?
>>288142825Yes! yes! the mouth is an erogenous zone so yes, unless your partner is trying to make you vomit.
>>288142825You can use your own hand to try it out
>>288142917There are several vtuber ships there not sure which one you're talking about.The chart also doesn't include hololive ships for some reason
>>288142917>>288142965I'm pretty sure he's talking about crossick, which wasn't just a ship but an actual couple that was huge during the vtuber boom and the nijisanji golden age. They used to stream together all the time and had a lot of off-colabs and even a voice drama they did together. At some point however they stopped doing anything together so they probably just broke up. Vtuber yuri has truly never really recovered to reach the heights that it did back in the day, though there is now udushiro if you speak nipponese at least, but they're relatively small.>>288142919Sukoya used to be into vomit...
>>288142047>Hime meets her future father-in-lawAnd S2 never ;_;
>>288142822NTA but the correct term is lesbophobic. Nobody hate a lesbian more than a female author. See shoujo>>288140558The uke is basically a flat-chested woman and the yaoi hole is a fully functional vagina. See the omegaverse
>>288143122A bunch of yuri authors used to draw fanart of them as well if you check their drawing from around that time.
>>288143122Noel x Flare also got pretty intense for just business yuri, but considering both of their backgrounds outside of vtubing I think it's safe to say it was just pretend.
>>288142708Touhou alone carried yuri during the dark ages, I'd rather it be what is popular in yuri today than dozens modern scrap.
Shipping real people wearing virtual costumes was weird anyways.
>>288143283Yeah I remember them as well, it just simply wasn't at the same level as crossick was, and both Noel and Flare distanced themselves from the ship unlike Crossick who just said they're together.I'm curious about their backgrounds though, what were they? It was too annoying to look those things up back in the day and the general vtuber culture was against it, so I never ended up knowing it.
>>288143356Noel is a well-known titty streamer who's doxxed herself multiple timesFlare was a lesser known one, but with a very devout following and was the cause for Cover to stop accepting fangifts due to stalkers sending airtag traps
>>288140401>Sees two cute girls>Thinks of a faggotYou're such a fucking faggot, you don't even realize it
>>288143340That's true. That's why I only ship real people who wear costumes who are in an actual relationship, if only there were any these days... Instead we have that sad excuse for a thread in /u/.
>>288143219Notably Tamamusi who still clearly bases some character designs on them and got Sukoya for DoreKoi's voice comic.
>>288143340anything involving vtubers in general is cringe
>>288143386Wait sorry, I mixed up Flare and Lamy. Both of them were the same cohort. Flare was just chosen as the business ship to sell the 4th gen.>>288143340They played into it way too hard, posting pictures of "battle armour" announcing their trips to onsens at the same time and posting their hands with trimmed finger nails. It wasn't so much people shipping them, but them selling themselves.
>>288141453But they are sisters...
>>288143430It seemed way too manufactured for me even back in the day.
>>288143422Some people just can't let go, and I can't blame them.
>>288143480Yea, it was fake as fuck, but fun to play along with knowing what Noel looked like. All the business yuri out of Hololive always ringed incredibly fake, especially Choco and Kanata. The only shit I actually believed was Matsuri being an equal opportunity molester
>>288143429You mean to tell me this cute straight author and her girlfriend are cringe?https://www.youtube.com/live/Ocwk7C4T6zM?si=86B1B0ta-1O_3MYT
>>288143285Touhou didn't carry shit. It was an arcane and mostly closed circle of shippers keeping themselves afloat in a way that did absolutely nothing to attract new people who weren't already coming in with the intention of looking at yuri fan art. And even those it turned away often enough because you might feel the need to learn a bunch of useless lore first and then decide not to bother.Modern yuri starts at Madoka, and I genuinely believe that Touhou held yuri back, banished it into small weirdo otaku circles and kept it out of the mainstream. They should've just drawn stopani art or something. Maybe in a world without Touhou they would have.
>>288143540Kanata was the one actual gay in hololive
>>288143401This is the most unfashionable hair I've ever seen
>>288143631>deaf>gay>terrible fashion and no common sensehmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>288143606Madoka and everything that came after it up to WFM was SCRAP. Touhou Yuri was drawn by yurifags for yurifags everything that you mentioned was more just general surface slop shipping. But you aren't ready to hear these things. It is the success of yuri as of late that has increased it's popularity not these bare minimum ships that come and go.
Is it appropriate for a maid to discipline her mistress for educational purpose?
>>288143760I mean looking at the number of their fanart, you can't deny that those "scraps" played huge role in yuri's popularity
>>288143760Calling Madoka scraps while defending Touhou sure is one brand of schizo.Touhou is isolationist scrap for shippers with zero interest in bringing in new blood. Madoka increased the pie, Touhou didn't. The numbers attest to that.
>>288143786Who else could do it?
>>288143824Madoka and Kaguya have unironically exposed more people to yuri than any of the actual yuri series with explicit romance.
>>288143760>Madoka hasn't increased yuri's popularityyou must be AT LEAST 18 years old to post here
>>288143786It would be inappropriate for her not to.
>>288143356>>288143386Nowadays Flare is more lovedovey with Ina of all people.
Who was responsible for the name crossick? I know its a yuri author.
Do you read Korean yuri?
>>288143848Madoka fags have been mad ever since the people who made it essentially said it wasn't yuri. Touhou at least has the decency of being vague about literally everything that puts it moderately above the scraps. When (if) the madoka movie releases and there is even a modicum of actual yuri in it I will kill myself on stream on kick and you will hear of it, but we both know that will not happen.>>288143863You must not be a zoomer to say this.
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>>288143760>>288143824>>288143848>>288143859>>288143863Yuri shipping even if most of it is done in shows that at most have some scraps, but more often than not are just outright delusions from people making their own headcanons over character chemistry or how visually the characters look together, is still a yuri related activity that does bring new yuri costumers to the core yuri market in the medium or long term. Though I do agree with anon that shows like Yagakimi, Citrus and more recently Watanare have been more effective on getting new costumers on the short term.
>>288144004If it was only me posting the discussion here might be some degree of decent, but I'm going to have to disappoint you.
>>288143606>>288143848>Touhou is isolationist scrap for shippers with zero interest in bringing in new bloodWas it really? Sounds like some revisionism, Touhou was by no means something obscure in the 2000s and 2010s, saying that "Touhou is isolationist" is kinda like saying "Genshin is isolationist" in 2026, it just sounds absurd because it's failing to use the same optics that Touhou had at the time.Everybody knew Touhou and if you look at any non-zoomer otaku (Vtubers have plenty of examples because they'll eventually talk about their tastes), then you'll see that even plenty of women knew about Touhou, so even the angle of "this was only for weirdos" doesn't make complete sense.
TouhouMadokaLove LiveLycorecoWFMBocchiBang DreamVtubersKaguyaAll brought more people into yuri than any actual explicit yuri series.This is an undeniable fact and it's not necessarily a bad thing.
ur fav author sarted with shipping
>>288144004I am pretty sure you would not like if we had IDs on this board as it would make really easy for the people who actually are here to talk about yuri and not seek validation from whatever random shit at the moment they want to be yuri to filter all of you out.
>>288144004Case in point about the feeding in attention. He's so deranged he thinks if he posts it enough his schizo nonsense will somehow become true.
>>288144040Decent and agreeable take.
>>288144060You forgot Ruri Rocks
>>288144095lollmao even
>>288144085Everyone started with shipping. Its a integral part of manga culture not just for yuri.
>>288144060Yes, it brought more people into shipping yuri, something only shippers care about, meanwhile the actual core yuri market we actually care about is pretty much unaffected by it.
>>288144060This is absolutely true but that doesn't mean I like it, only some of the time though.
>>288144119I didn't, I found yuri because at the time I was searching for lesbians scenes in movies, there was a website cataloguing those and from there I found out about a forum about yuri and yaoi which led me to lilicious website.
>>288144095
>>288143848How old are you?
>>288144060The hard cold truth that the "it isn't yuri!" semantics schizo doesn't take into account:Some "yuri scraps" series are better than actual yuri.If you placed a low-tier/forgettable yuri manga with MyGO, I would take MyGO probably 9 times out of 10.
>>288144060It should be obvious that subtext brings in more people. The only people who watch yuri are people who already like yuri. Subtext is necessary for exposing fresh people to close relationships between girls.
>>288144120You are retarded if you think the majority of "core yuri market" didn't come from "shipping yuri" market
Ruri Rocks pisses him off greatly because he can't "Majima is so lucky". Now watch him make off-topic rants
>>288144157I found out about yuri because of the slime and harpy kissing in monster musume
I watched Madoka and started searching up Kyoko x Sayaka which ended up getting me into yuri
NicoMaki got me into yuri
>>288144191You idolfags will have you day or reckoning one day. Or you'll develop actual taste and stop pretending that these manufactured bushiroad properties are anything of substance.
>>288142825I've seen a chick orgasm from deepthroating a dildo with no other stimulation. Everything is pleasurable if you're fucked up enough.
>>288144191I would literally take any of those over love live and bang dream. Maybe vtubers as well but they're a different type of creature so maybe they'll be okay.
Aidor/u/ is /u/-core
>>288144120YagaKimi only existed because she got attention from her Touhou doujin. Shipping doujin culture is the prime recruitment ground both for yuri fans and yuri creators.
>>288144326LL and Bandori stopped being equivalents a long time ago.
>>288144201The core yuri market is so small even this is improbable because if the overlap was significant the number would be far higher, it's why Mikami Teren said those are two different audiences and his editor who job is to actually look into this type of data has the same opinion.
>>288144382Explain or I would consider this a mega cope.
>>288144120Can you actually prove these people exist?
>>288144120Completly delusional tourist talk. Neptune/Uranus, Touhou, Madoka etc. are all what brought virtually all of our creators into the genre.
T7/ss/hit is dead thank god
>>288144370Everybody remembers that period in the late 2010s that if you checked an artist's Pixiv, they would've gone through a Touhou phase before migrating to something else (probably a gacha).
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>>288144408What is there to explain? S1 is nothing like Mygojica.It started as an off-brand Love Live and then became something else. Honestly it didn't even need the Bandori label.
>>288144051No, it of course wasn't obscure among otaku, it was absolutely dominating comiket after all. But if you actually want to create or consume content about character relations instead of old man rape doujins, there absolutely is a higher barrier of entry. Genshin isn't isolationist because gacha companies spend big bux on making the new user experience as frictionless as humanly possible. Touhou is spiritually gacha, which is part of why it was so successful, but instead of a big company pushing their polished billion dollar game you have one guy's difficult bullet hell games that no one actually plays. You go into the Touhou fandom because you want to go into the Touhou fandom, and maybe you discover yuri along the way. You go into the Madoka fandom because you've seen the show and crave more homumado. Big difference.Vtubers are not a good example for non weirdos being into Touhou, by the way.
I can't believe /au/ is finally realizing the importance of scraps
>>288144400No anon, a small portion of the "shipping yuri" market became the "core yuri" market.People don't become yuri fans out of nowhere with 0 exposure to yuri stuffs beforehand and the way people got those exposure is through shipping yuri.Same shit applies to Yaoi fans.
>>288144495yay!
Ruri Rock/ss/ is /ss/-core
in the end, was it yuri?
>>288144370Yes, but this is besides the point, how would an artist be know if not for art? What would inspire someone to become a mangaka if not manga or manga adjacent works? Why would someone get into yuri but the idea of girls together? Shipping is inherently part of the creative process here.
>>288144463Taking anyone who calls things "scraps" or "yuribait" seriously is braindead activity.
Idolfag must be Mfag's bitch since he loves following his autism like hating Ruri Rocks
>>288139970Delete shitposting, retard.
nice use of your saturday night fellas
>>288144457Yep mega cope.
>>288144522>>288144350Calm down, gr/u/mmer
>>288144459So Touhou was less "dummy proof", so what? It still played a part in japanese yuri culture.It's ridiculous to think that just because Touhou existed it somehow held back yuri from going mainstream, if anything it simply inspired a whole generation of yuri mangaka to go forward with their own series like >>288144370 said.>>288144550You said a whole lot of nothing.Some people weren't "fated" to become yurifags, the culture and presence of yuri being spread and them meeting that culture at the right time in the right age is what made them yurifags.It's a domino effect.
>>288144469Anon, we have this thing called the internet which helps you find hobbies, you should try it.
>>288144459Insane cope by madoka fag? If I close my eyes I can almost imagine it was 2014
boomer ahhs caring about Touhou in the big 26
>>288144550No retard that IS the point. She didn't even make mostly yuri.
R/u/ri Rocks >>>>>>>>>> Uma Mu/ss/umeAt least R/u/ri isn't self-insert trash and wasn't touched by a groomer
>>288144653Of course I said nothing, because you cannot draw girls flirting without shipping girls, what else people who like yuri would be drawing?
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>>288144712Only the game has self-insert, the anime is still mostl about UmaXUma and the trainers are secondary characters at best.
>autistic LGBTfag posers arguing over how to enjoy girls holding handsMust be a day that ends in y
>>288144419You should ask Teren this, but what he knows about the market he makes money from.
>>288144653The importance of Touhou in yuri history is overstated. Even if it had a dedicated yuri community, it didn't help yuri become more mainstream. Without Touhou, all the yuri mangaka would've just drawn doujinshi for another series.
>>288144654And? Do you think people just search "yuri" on the internet out of nowhere without first getting exposed to it?No, the majority of people watch those """"scrap"""" shows, got into shipping, then they think to themselves "hmm, I like relationship between girls" and start searching for more explicit stuffs if that's what they prefer.
>>288144686Gacha and vtubers are a fad, touhou is eternal.
NicoMaki was literally crack for the younger chunk of yuri mangaka.Hell it was so potent even some old yuri mangaka fell into it and never made it out even now.
>>288144820Citation needed
>>288144653Touhou was the nerd playground where otaku were socializing amongst themselves. Of course that's where mangaka come from. That doesn't mean they wouldn't have been on a different, maybe a bit more open playground otherwise. It's an impossible to prove hypothetical of course. And maybe the inherent gate keeping was good, and in a few years we'll wish we had gatekept more.
>>288144820>Without Touhou, all the yuri mangaka would've just drawn doujinshi for another series.False concept, they would've drawn other popular het manga at the time and wouldn't have been touched by the yuri holy spirt because they weren't engaging with such a massive female-only cast like Touhou.
>>288144797Hmm yes Watanare is known to be free from shipping.
>>288144859>and in a few years we'll wish we had gatekept more.In a few years? you niggers are making me wish the communities gatekept harder years ago.
>>288144820You can apply that logic to any series and suddenly no series is important for the growth of yuri
>>288144838No anon, I think you naturally get there just by searching your own interests, a japanese searching lesbians or girls kissing will likely easily find about yuri.
Trash collectors shilling their scraps will never stop being sad.
>>288144896>>288144919Perfect timing
>>288144886You could technically call every yuri work shipping if this is your reference, yeah people really ship Miyagi and Sendai
>>288144761Perhaps we should accept Hibikek then
'member me?
>>288144919And they cope about them too...
>>288144797So you can't?
>>288144901Again, do you really think people are just "born" liking yuri and search it out of nowhere with 0 exposure beforehand?That's not how human brain works.
>>288144954Why are you pretending to be dumber than usual?
>>288144970No one cares what you accept. The yuri artists thought it was great and made a shitton of fan work for it. You aren't asked because you aren't relevant.
>>288144820If the hypothetical other series had het relationships as a focus I'm not sure how modern yuri would've turned out.
To think these "discussions" always start because some retard is mad about Kaguya or Lycoreco.
>>288145025Well maybe the the Chinese yurifags should give them a visit and get them to take the 百合 out of their profiles
>>288145028You mean Idolmaster? Turned out fine
>>288145025Your horse """"""lesbians"""""" are made to love the male trainer, you deluded schizo
>>288145030No it was actually about touhou and madoka this time and I might've started it.
>>288145001Because I am reading things so retarded I have no opinion but give an answer that will also sound retarded, imagine trying to argue a yuri work has shipping, yeah no shit you mongoloid, the whole point of the genre is for you to ship romantic developments between the girls. We don't use the word shipping here because it's a fucking redundancy. The original argument is what Teren said and he made very clear he believes those audiences are different based on his own experience with the market he sells his product to.
>>288145065The chinese liked it tho
>>288145098Sorry but Producer's cocksluts aren't lesbians
>>288145030Honestly I don't know why the semanticsfag always gets his panties in a twist.Some days you want a light vanilla ice cream (charismatic characters holding hands and some abstract "suki/ai").Some days you want a parfait (explicit kissing and scissoring).When you only get parfaits it kinda loses the impact.
>>288145030It was actually because of this video>>288138832
>>288145101Calling anyone deluded while talking about something you have zero knowledge of is pretty bold.
>>288145101kek having a complete melty already.
>>288145098It didn't turn out anything because it didn't happen. We are talking about an alt universe without touhou.
>>288145030This time it's the OG. People being mad that Madoka objectively brought more people into yuri in such a short amount of time than anything before. (Maybe with the exception of sailor moon?)It shouldn't even matter if you think it's yuri or not, it's a simple fact, but oh well.
>>288145145We're talking about the current universe where they also drew imas doujins.
>>288145157total KyoSaya domination
>>288145137>>288145140Calm down horsefucker
>>288144993I am honestly not sure what you are trying to argue anymore, aside from you acting like core yuri works are basically invisible, which they are not, you are acting like the only possible way for a person to get into yuri is from works where there is a shipping audience, or so I want to believe you will not try a retarded argument like talking about the concept of shipping itself.
>>288145101Trainer is female. Actually I have no idea what brought this on anyway, but just so you know delusional shitter.
>>288145188Funny that they were the more popular Madoka pairing close to airing, but over time MadoHomu took over (could also have been Rebellion).
Why are the madoka fags coping so hard?
Angy posts today.
>>288145208>core yuri worksDon't exist and are cope you made up.
>>288145126No one is telling you to not like things, we are just asking for you to do it somewhere else, when you spam this thread seeking validation of X work, you are begging people who don't share the same opinions about X work to express them and you can't take it.
Freme melty again
>>288145232Hello lack of self-awareness
>>288145256Trying to thread police the place is just going to result in unpleasant ramblings like this situation here.We had so many peaceful threads because the likes of (You) got here.
>>288145295*before the likes of (You) got here.
>>288145256>weHoly cow, look at this guy. There's no issue with yuri being posted until your type comes around crying about how x isn't scissoring so it doesn't count.
KumiRei being nowhere to be seen surprises me. I thought Hibikek had a pretty big impact as well.
>>288145250Is that so? Look at this conceptual shelves from a conceptual store in a conceptual country.>But but but I saw shipping work in a stand somewhereYeah, now make the math and explain to me why it's always a single work and not all the hundreds of them
>AngyGo back, /vt/irgin
Is it worth watching the webrip of Kaguya or should I wait for the bluray?
>>288145256Why do you try so hard to look like multiple people?
Shaky post
>>288145261Melty?
>>288145339Deep insecurity
>>288145188BASEDhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKouLYAOrDc
>>288145295No we didn't, every time there is a new scrap, it's the same retarded shit with retards who want validation and the retards baiting them by saying it's not yuri, it's an endless cycle of stupidity between you two.
>>288145326It's almost like all the "outrage" is manufactured, and it wasn't popular with yurifags in the first place.
>>288145335The BD will include a second audio track which is 10 years after the movie.So basically, it's for rewatching-only, so you can watch the webrip anyways.
all this could be solved by Madoka and Reimu kissing
>>288145405Sounds like you were the only hurt person here and that's why you didn't see the threads in a comfy way, you're constantly trying to play Tom & Jerry instead of letting go and relaxing.
>>288145405>>288145339
>>288145402i cri evrytiem
HomuSaya will be the next big thing
>>288145436No anon, I don't find you retards spamming the thread and fighting the other retards saying your scrap is not yuri over hudreds of posts to be comfy.
>>288145405You're just a schizo who deludes himself people give a fuck about your irrelevant tourist opinion. People post about what they like. No one is asking for your approval or validation you deluded social media zombie.
>>288145482You know, you should probably stop using your retarded scrap word if you want to pretend you're not the person who contributes to that. Just a little tip.
Yuri is My Job ch75https://mangadex.org/chapter/8c4f3326-3207-4dbd-873e-b846b6781e61
>>288144856It dropped the same tsundere bomb onto the yuri community that zero no tsukaima dropped on harem fags. Total annihilation. Otherwise I don't think it has much going for it, and I'm saying that as a fan of sorts. Not too different from all the other idol and gacha ships where entire fandoms build themselves around side notes in the source material.
>>288145512Not that anon but why are you so hurt by people saying scrap? Maybe you need to go somewhere else.
>>288138832I can't believe Bokita lost...
>not that anon but
>>288135407Hot
>>288145566I wonder if this ever works
>>288145208>you are acting like the only possible way for a person to get into yuri is from works where there is a shipping audienceI never said it's not the ONLY way but you have to be delusional if you think the majority of "core yuri market" didn't come from "shipping yuri" series.
>>288145566>>288145593Literally not him I was the one above arguing about madoka being shit kek
>>288145561Not that anon^2 but because it's a word exclusively associated with shitposting that allows some fag who considers himself the Grand Yuri Arbiter to decide what yuri is invalidated because it's not sexy enough for him. In a lot of cases subtext has a juicier emotional bond which attracts these so called fake yuri fans to it.
>>288145564AnoSoyo is just modern-day NicoMaki with the same dynamic and all.
>>288145626You guys are actually retarded. There was an anon telling us to stop arguing then I come and give you a thinly veiled insult and you think it's him lol
I feel the discussion could improve a lot if you can reduce the biases you got from the english speaking side.
Not those anons but subtext/scrap/whatever you call it is yuri. And no, people don't mean those series where they end up with men.
>>288145628The end result is vaguely similar, but the route to get there is way more memorable.
>>288138832>everybody talking about random fotm anime>me seeing MeiSaku fight its way into the top ranks at the turn of the decade
>>288145507>I don't care Yes I can tell you don't care, the hundreds of posts spamming the thread because you are upset someone disagrees with you on whatever work made this very clear>>288145512No anon, I won't stop using a word that has been used for almost 2 decades because it makes you aware whatever work is not the same as yuri focused on romantic developments.
>>288145716Just accept it isn't yuri and move on. You can like things that aren't yuri.
>>288145515尊い.
I'll admit I like Ruri Rocks because Nagi x Ruri is so damn hot.
>>288145751I mean you could just stop spamming the thread and there wouldn't be a problem. Not sure what the confusion is about.
I'm sorry but their height/proprortion looks kinda weird here.
I'm actually secondhand embarrassed every time one of you reveals you're too illiterate to grasp subtext. Accusing something of being subtext is admitting it's yuri, that there is yuri in the text purposefully placed there by the writer. Unfortunately it means the writer had far too much faith in you. Your curtains are blue because your teachers weep.
No, P, Ruri is not even "scrap", it's fucking irrelevant
Subtext means cowardly pandering.
>>288145566Sometimes I assume the anonymous identity of another anon without announcing it thusly, they'll never catch me alive.
>>288145849The writer didn't want to write a yuri work, they wanted to make female characters and then you deluded yourself into shipping them. If you want to make this retarded discourse post it on twitter.
>>288145866It means not everything needs to be romanceslop
>>288145771You're dumb and retarded.
>>288138832Bokita will revive with s2
>>288145908I appreciate that you're fully agreeing with the fact that you're stupid enough to think these things accidentally happen.
>>288145908That's only true if there's 0 pandering or if one of the girls ends up with a guy
>>288145913I'm sorry you aren't getting yuri brownie points for supporting shit you like, my condolences.
>>288145402It's just romantic as hell. I really don't care if the high council of /au/tism allows the classification as yuri. There's clearly a huge difference between shipping random characters who sometimes blush at each other and those that Mami themselves for each other. Fans of the latter will want more works about intense emotional bonds, while the former are usually fine with any cute girls show as long as it has enough other shippers.
>>288143540Kronii harassed Ina while drunk on stream, so she's probably an actual gay
>>288145515Hime compulsively being protective of Mitsuki is insanely cute. I’m guessing this is leading into Hime finally finding out more about Mitsuki’s past after they stopped talking. I don’t remember if it was said outright but hasn’t it been strongly implied her parents are divorced?
愛じゃん
>>288145955What is with this bad faith point? Is it really that hard for you to understand what I'm saying? The writer didn't do something accidentally you are the one misinterpreting it or saying it's yuri when the writer says it isn't romantic love. It's okay if you want to keep disagreeing but don't call people stupid with a bad faith argument just because you can't back your shit up.
>>288145996It was said outright as reason she is no longer the rich person Hime doesn't remember being the one she wanted to marry.
What's hilarious is these so called scrap haters tend to be in the "Madoka is yuri" camp.
>>288145802With or without me, the constant spamming of certain works will continue and because of this you will keep attracting shitposters more than happy to tell your scrap is not yuri and you will being unable to just let it go because you are only here to push the idea this work is yuri to begin with.Posting news a scrap is getting new content which may have yuri developments, sure, posting a few pictures you find cute? Ok, but no, the moment whatever retard says they don't agree with how you see a work, you lose your shit and you don't stop and is everything they want.
>>288146073Meanwhile in reality>people post cute fanart>ahhhhhhhhhhhhh stoooop
>>288146073>you could stoo being a perpetually mad schizo>noooooo I can shitpost about it
>>288146073hm, nah, without you the threads would be peaceful. Not too interested in the roleplay you're multiple posters.
>>288146110>Me when I don't read the thread.
The yuri queen can make any yuri anime better.
>>288146135Thinking it's one guy kek
>>288145996I was under the impression her mother is dead and we'll get a graveyard date next chapter.
>>288146155Emphasis on "can" because she hasn't done any
Sub trxt is yuri
>>288146165Well I was going to say she was being misleading but it makes sense Yano would be
>>288146155Do you think he has an identity crisis whenever he sees this commonly held opinion?
>>288146175True.
>>288146175Sub t-rex?
>>288146200No, she is too busy voicing hetsluts in haremshit and attending their events to care
>>288146175Smart Kasumi
>>288146155She did too good a job voicing Hougetsu, she really captured her frigid, grave-like coldness like the bitch she is.
>>288146231I think you need to put on your glasses
Yuribait will only ever mean works that explicitly end with one of the girls getting with a guy.Any other definition is just retarded.
>>288146253Yuribait is a work that baits shipfags with the idea that the girls would get together but then they don't. Added salt if they end with up with a guy but not yuri either way.
>>288146110>>288146121>Come here specifically to validate the opinion you have made about specific works>Get upset there are people who don't agree with you>Anons realize you are angry and unable to let go and start baiting you every thread>You start posting about "haters" and how you are victims as you post even more to validate your opinion you have about specific worksRepeat, so far in your crusade have convinced zero people whatever work you love is more than what they believe to be. >You are mad I am madYes I am, it's cringe, it's pointless, it spams the whole thread and your only defense so far is pretend there is a single anon who is obsessed with you just like every other schizo in this thread.
>>288146306>I.e that recent show with the two girls having giga chemistry and focus all for it to be them wanting some prince
Kukuru ended up with Fuuka. They will stay together forever while the usual anons seethe about it.
>>288146306Yuri fanservice is just a good thing. Two girls not ending explicitly together doesn't make something not yuri.
>>288146346>Come here specifically to validate the opinion you have made about specific worksNope. Stop projecting.
>>288146350Nobody seethes at good platonic sisters living next to each other tho
>>288146380Then stop acting like you do.
>>288146354>Two girls not ending explicitly together doesn't make something not yuri.Name ten examples
>>288146346Its funny watching you get so mindbroken in your hate of 'yurifags' you have become literally ack.
>>288146354Maybe, but depending how it's executed it can be a frustrating experience, ask anons how they feel about Riko to Haru, a case where the yuri even went explicit and then the author was forced to pretend it didn't happen.
>>288146437So, not satisfied with baiting other users, you decide to bait other schizos.
>>288146346We are all literally just asking you to stoo having these complete meltdowns over people liking things you don't like. And your response is a even worse meltdown, every single time.
This is yuri.https://mangadex.org/title/a404d8b9-1be4-4f33-9693-02ca382d58d6/toukyou-kinoko-sekai-ranking-1-i-no-komyu-ryoku-saijaku-jk
>>288146483No one is baiting you if you choose to spend all day in a thread for something you hate.
>>288146519I stopped reading it midway through the crucifix Namek, picrel was a great girl-meets-girl page though.
>>288146434NTA but Futari Escape and many other YH works are classic examples of this, not counting work where the girls do get together at some point but do not end together but also don't break the yuri narrative.
>>288146434Flip Flappers
>>288146519
>>288142708I think people take for granted that for how formulaic anime is especially in an era where you see over 50 shows a season, all those formulas and trendsetters had to start somewhere and every once in a while an original project can actually hit it big. Would you have thought in 2011 that a magical girl show would be one of the defining animu of the decade?LR's action is kinda boring, the overarching plot sucks and probably would've been better if they just straight up killed people, and it contrives itself with magical nonlethal bullets but honestly in retrospect a girls with guns show where the two leads had great chemistry and could play off each other in any setting was a unique offering for the time, without just being a vehicle to sell a gacha game or some other garbage to you to spend more money on, especially with how much gacha live service games rely on passive secondary social media advertising. The recurring trend with a lot of the big hitters is the low barrier of entry, even the odd ones out like YuuMari from Pokemon Sword/Shield don't really ask anything of you other than to play that one specific game rather than 30 years of fucking pokemon. Or similarly sulemio not needing you to watch all of UC Gundam.Kaguya the Princess Cosmic fits that same general vibe too, you don't need to know anything about the original myth to enjoy it.Nobody knows what the next big yuri pairing will be until it shows up.
There are yuri manga (plural) where nothing happens; and there are panels where yuri manga (plural) happen.
>>288146725>and it contrives itself with magical nonlethal bulletsA lot of people would get turned off because they want their protagonists to be saints who never actually kill any people
Which yuri author is a unironic chud?
>>288145716If they end up with men it's called scraps. If you can headcanon the girls as romantic then it's subtext. Scraps aren't yuri. Subtext is a gray zone. If subtext was yuri it would no longer just be subtext.
>>288146794>If they end up with men it's called scraps.If they end up with men then it's simply not yuri
>>288146794Do you even know what scrap and subtext mean? Not in the context of yuri, but the English words.
Scrap is just something that you have to headcanon really hard even though there's 0 yuriSomething like Yuru Camp or the series a certain schizo here keeps pushing
>>288146725>>288146764It's the duality of nips enjoying gun aesthetic but not wanting to make it too hardcore, especially for a project wanting to target a big audience.Madoka has the advantage of being all magical stuff and the enemies just being monsters, the drama is grounded but the violence is more fantastical in a way that a straightforward gun show can't be.Blue Archive had another take by making the characters angels or something like that (I don't actually play it).
>>288146840
Scraps are series that I don't likeSubtext are series that I like
>>288146794>If they end up with men it's called scrapsI didn't realize the girls ended up with men in Bocchi.
>>288146865I understand what you're saying but Blue Archive's Korean, it just does that Asian gacha thing where they still just wrap themselves in Japanese, which I think adds another dimension to the thing.
>>288146877this show is so cute
>>288146926Bocchi is subtext
>>288147054The girls being gay, but there are no clear pairing, doesn't mean it is subtext.
>>288147054No, Bocchi is yuri. I made that post because I've seen retards like you called it scrap.
>>288145098Yes>>288143973Not yet. Sell me on it.
>>288147054Oh boy. We doing this again?
>>288146764Really? Honestly I'd feel like the only people that would care if a fictional character in an action show killed someone was if Batman started outright massacring people in an kid's cartoon and parents' groups got upset. And even that is just weighed down by the contrivances of certain comic book characters not being allowed to kill. Or if they were just sadistic and edgy about it instead of clinical professionalism or inappropriate enthusiasm.Sure maybe Gunslinger Girl isn't in living memory but I think people would get over the shock value of secret police teenage girls killing dudes really quick.
>>288147054>anon posts a page that heavily and irrefutably hints bocchi is a lesbian>retards refute this being subtext because we can all read between the lines and assume what isn't explicitly stated
>>288147402Yuri
>>288147402Non-romantic and asexual friendship ergo not yuri
>>288147054>>288147242There are many pages that outright show Bocchi interested in being romantic or sexual with girls, you also have Kita who shows to attracted by Ryo in more than just her talent, so does most girls of the work where Ryo plays a very tropeish scummy character who goes out with girls for the money.Though I wouldn't call it a yuri work, there is no actual narrative either explicit or that you could interpret as subtext of the characters being actually interested in each other, the epigraph chapters is the closest Hamaji got of doing it.>>288146847No, we have been calling Mai Hime scraps for a decade, scraps are just works where the yuri is minimal, subtext or explicit.
>>288147495
>>288147524Cute panel
